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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: We are joined now by Ohio Congressman Jim Jordan, recently

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Speaker 1: back from New York City where they had a hero

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Speaker 1: to discuss crime issues in New York City where I'm

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Speaker 1: broadcasting this show from today. But Congressman, I appreciate the time.

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Speaker 1: Let's jump right into the Hunter Biden mess Irs whistleblower

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Speaker 1: comes out and says Hunter Biden is being protected by

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Speaker 1: the Department of Justice Joe Biden's administration. Simultaneously, we also

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Speaker 1: have the fifty one intelligence agents caught rigging the game

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Speaker 1: by claiming that the laptop was Russian disinformation.

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Speaker 2: Where do we go from here?

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Speaker 1: You me, Buck, most of our listeners have known about

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Speaker 1: this for a while, but it seems like some of

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Speaker 1: these revelations, Jim, are now starting to cut through and

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Speaker 1: even a peer, I saw CBS News was covering it.

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Speaker 2: What happens next, Well, I.

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Speaker 3: Think the reason they covered it, Clay and you guys

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Speaker 3: have been on this from the get go, and you

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Speaker 3: know that this had an impact on the election, pulling

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Speaker 3: down a show one hundred percent. And if that thing

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Speaker 3: hadn't been suppress, people would have had a different decision.

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Speaker 3: But we've just saw how political it was when we

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Speaker 3: had our deposition with Mike Morell, and Blincoln calls him

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Speaker 3: so literally. The fourteenth of October twenty twenty, the New

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Speaker 3: York Post story comes out on the Biden laptop. Three

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Speaker 3: days later, Blincoln contacts Mike Morell says, Hey, what do

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Speaker 3: you think about this? Morell starts digging into it. He

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Speaker 3: then organizes, because of Lincoln's prompting, he organizes the fifty

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Speaker 3: other people to sign the statement, which as we know,

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Speaker 3: was an accurate to sign this statement, they do it

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Speaker 3: for this specific purpose. Morella ended that position when we

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Speaker 3: asked him the question why did you do it? He said,

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Speaker 3: I wanted Joe Biden to have something to use at

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Speaker 3: the debate on the twenty second of that month, and

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Speaker 3: I wanted Joe Biden to win. So it was total political.

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Speaker 3: They all signed it. It wasn't accurate. Biden of course

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Speaker 3: uses it. When Biden uses it, I thought the interesting

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Speaker 3: not telling the country, Oh, his campaign prompted it. When

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Speaker 3: he uses it on the twenty second after the debate,

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Speaker 3: guess what happened. Steve Rishetti, chairman of the Biden campaign,

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Speaker 3: gets on the phone with Mike Morrel and thanks him

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Speaker 3: for what they did because it was effective. That that is,

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Speaker 3: that is just how political the whole thing was. But

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Speaker 3: because they all signed it with their title, they all

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Speaker 3: put former CIA director, Acting Director of OD and I

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Speaker 3: gave it this weight, this this gravitalk if you will that,

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Speaker 3: oh this has to be right when it wasn't and

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Speaker 3: we know it impacted the election.

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Speaker 4: Congress and Jordan's buck. Thanks for being with us as always.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 4: What do you say to constituents when they come up

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Speaker 4: to you, as I'm sure they do now or when

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Speaker 4: they write into your office? Uh, and they ask you,

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Speaker 4: how are we supposed to believe given what you just

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Speaker 4: laid out, for example, about the intelligence community? I mean

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Speaker 4: that they said that what was it five most recent

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Speaker 4: Given what we know also about the way the DOJ

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Speaker 4: with regard to Trump versus the Biden family and specifically

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Speaker 4: Hunter Biden. How can the American people have faith in

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Speaker 3: Well, they're they're losing faith. And it's it's what concerns

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Speaker 3: We can, we can rebound from this stupid policies on

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Speaker 3: the real concern. That's why our I think our work

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Speaker 3: what our country is really about, the foundational principles, and

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Speaker 3: that's that's what's good. But yeah, people are losing losing faith.

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Speaker 3: What we're trying to do is show them how bad

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Speaker 3: it was. Pass legislation to correct the problem. If we can,

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Speaker 3: and if we can't, we're going to have to use

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Speaker 3: the appropriations process. You got to use the money. I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's what the founders wanted. They want the legislative brands

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Speaker 1: Jim, everybody's talking Trump, DeSantis. You know both these guys,

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Speaker 1: you have endorsed Trump. What is it about Trump that

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Speaker 3: He's proven he can take it. I mean, you guys

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Speaker 3: know this. It's been now eight years since they've been

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Speaker 3: on him relentlessly and I don't think it stops. I

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Speaker 3: I think they come after him againn and Georgia. I

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Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised if Jack Smith and Dyson as well

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Speaker 3: the Special Counsel. It's wrong what they're doing, But I

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Speaker 3: just he's proven he can take it. He's total the

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Speaker 3: he got an office, he did it.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: Governor de Santas did it as well in Florida. But

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Speaker 3: I just I just so appreciate President Trump's attitude, his toughness,

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Speaker 3: and the way that I think foreign powers also looked

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Speaker 3: And I think that whole combination is why I want

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Speaker 4: Jim Jordan of Ohio and you know, Congressman, we talked

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Speaker 4: earlier in the week here on the show about your

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Speaker 4: it was honestly really disappointing to see, although not surprising,

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Speaker 3: The witnesses, I mean, the witnesses were unbelieved. You couldn't

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Speaker 3: And then the father of the Jewish father whose son

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Speaker 3: He was powerful, they were all and of course holds

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Speaker 3: the Alba who speak English. But just we all know

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Speaker 3: the power of the witnesses. And then finally mister Holden,

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Speaker 3: who's a Democrat member of the council, the New York

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Speaker 3: driven by that day one memo that Bragg put out

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Speaker 1: Jim, I can't believe that this is where we are.

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Speaker 1: But the House voted yesterday for women's sports to be

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Speaker 1: made up of women. And you can correct me if

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Speaker 1: I'm wrong on these numbers. I think it was two

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Speaker 1: Not one Democrat voted for women's sports to be made

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Speaker 1: up entirely of women. You've worked in athletics. I know

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Speaker 1: a huge percentage of our audience has kids or grandkids

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Speaker 1: that are involved in athletics. I mean, this is one

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Speaker 1: of the craziest votes I've ever seen what did you

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Speaker 3: No, I can't say they ain't better than you did.

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Speaker 3: It is crazy. It's where is common sense? Where is

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Speaker 3: all know this is stupid, but that's where the left

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Speaker 3: the Democrats. There were Democrats who knew it was stupid

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Speaker 3: fighting the culture wars, but like, no, you brought it up.

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Speaker 3: You're the one who thinks that that boys should compete

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Speaker 3: The best line ever we've talked I think about this before,

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Speaker 3: Huckaby Sanders when she said the real divide in America

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Speaker 6: Yep, and it's true.

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Speaker 3: It is just we're just for normal, common sense things.

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Speaker 3: They're crazy.

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Speaker 4: Cox and Jordan Ford, let you go. I just want

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Speaker 4: to know. We had Senator Rick Scott on yesterday. We're

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Speaker 4: talking about what are we now getting close to thirty

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Speaker 4: three trillion dollars in debt? We have debt ceiling negotiations

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Speaker 4: or whatever whatever we're calling it, right the debt ceiling

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Speaker 4: back and forth underway. Does anything come of this? I mean,

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Speaker 4: I do think that there's a bit of fatigue for

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Speaker 7: I know, I know. Let's hope.

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Speaker 3: So because you know, and you've all said this, you

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Speaker 3: know this, your audience knows this. We've had records spending,

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Speaker 3: record inflation, record debt, and Joe Biden and the Democrats want

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Speaker 3: and it's like, you got to change that. So let's

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Speaker 3: hope we get something. I'm confident the first bill we're

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Speaker 3: going to send over there. We'll see what they come

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Speaker 3: back with. But what we send over there is good.

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Speaker 3: If we can actually put that into law, the bill

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Speaker 3: And it's the old rule of politics. I always say,

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Speaker 1: No doubt have a good week. My man always welcome here.

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Speaker 1: Look, we're just talking about this ridiculous vote in the

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to Clay and Buck. We're gonna be talking

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Speaker 4: to Jim Bridenstott used to run NASA, and I think

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Speaker 4: you on the hot seat for this one in a while.

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Speaker 4: Do aliens exist? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I do. I believe that aliens exist.

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Speaker 4: My family and I we get it. We get it

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Speaker 1: What do you think he's say? Do you think he

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Speaker 4: We're gonna ask him, so everyone has everyone has to

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Speaker 4: Is we're gonna ask a god running NASA up previously?

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Speaker 4: Don't you think there are aliens? They'll also tell us

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Speaker 1: You over under, when will we put a person on Mars?

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Speaker 4: I would think if we didn't have somebody on Mars

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Speaker 1: We're sitting here at twenty twenty three. If I gave

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Speaker 1: I think Elon is gonna walk on Mars if I

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Speaker 1: We really haven't seen much progression in terms of our

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Speaker 1: I think if you would talk to people in nineteen

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Speaker 4: I think that's likely true. Do you want to get

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Patricia in Central Florida has been waiting the longest.

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Speaker 2: Patricia, what you got for us?

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Speaker 8: Thanks for taking our call. I couldn't agree more with

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Ed Clay Travis buck Sexton Show Friday Edition

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Speaker 7: Oh, I'm going to be brutally honest. I'm going to

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Speaker 7: The probability of finding life, forget about our galaxy, finding

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Speaker 5: Liquid water. What does that mean?

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Speaker 7: We haven't discovered it, and I don't want to project

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Speaker 7: This means that we know that Mars was at one

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Speaker 7: billions of years ago. The question is was it inhabited

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Speaker 7: Critical, Clay critical. If a discovery like that is to

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Speaker 7: States of America and a coalition of our partners, because

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Speaker 7: it will forever add chapters to history books and science books.

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Speaker 7: So this is a moment in time. It's just like

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Speaker 7: like you mentioned earlier nineteen sixty nine, the moon landing.

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Speaker 7: This is a moment in time where if a magnificent

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Speaker 7: discovery is about to be made, it needs to be

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Speaker 7: made by the United States of America.

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Speaker 4: Jim, it's buck. I want to ask you, with that

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Speaker 4: in mind, about the significance of the starship, the space

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Speaker 4: X starship effort yesterday. So first I just want to

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Speaker 4: explain to everybody what the mission is, why this is

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Speaker 4: such a significant vehicle rocket that they tried to put

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Speaker 4: into space yesterday, and then you can assess for us

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Speaker 4: the actual launch itself.

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Speaker 7: Yes, So there's two big things that are happening right

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Speaker 7: now with Starship. Number One, for the American tax payer,

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Speaker 7: we have to drive down the cost per mass that

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Speaker 7: we deliver, whether it's to low Earth orbit or all

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Speaker 7: the way to the Moon or anywhere in between. We

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Speaker 7: need to drive down the cost per unit mass. And

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Speaker 7: the way you do that is by launching heavy rockets

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Speaker 7: with large volume, and then you can drive down the

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Speaker 7: cost per unit mass. That's what Starts is all about,

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Speaker 7: and that's going to be a transformational change in how

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Speaker 7: we access space. So that's number one. Number two, of course,

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Speaker 7: when we think about how NASA is doing business, and

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Speaker 7: of course I established a lot of these programs when

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Speaker 7: I was ahead of NASA. We want instead of the

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Speaker 7: government purchasing, owning, and operating hardware, what we want is

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Speaker 7: we want the private sector competing on cost and innovation,

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Speaker 7: competing to deliver products for NASA, in this case, deliver

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Speaker 7: services for NASA. So NASA is not going to own

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Speaker 7: and operate the hardware. NASA is going to buy a service.

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Speaker 7: The expectation is we have numerous providers that are competing

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Speaker 7: on cost and innovation, and each of those providers are

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Speaker 7: going to get customers that are not NASA and in

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Speaker 7: fact not the government, driving down the cost to the

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Speaker 7: American tax payer.

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Speaker 5: So if we can do these things.

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Speaker 7: Ultimately, we're going to be able to go a lot

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Speaker 7: more for a lot less for not just the American

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Speaker 7: tax there, but to maintain our competitiveness. I always say

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Speaker 7: we will not out centrally plan communists China. We will

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Speaker 7: not do that because we've got lots of congressmen and

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Speaker 7: senators that are more interested in jobs programs in their

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Speaker 7: districts than they are in achieving outcomes for the country.

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Speaker 7: That being said, if we can't out centrally plan them,

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Speaker 7: what do we do. We need to innovate them. We

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Speaker 7: need to out entrepreneur them. We have to create incentive

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Speaker 7: structures from the government that enable the private sector to

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Speaker 7: do what we know the government and its own will

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Speaker 7: not do.

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Speaker 1: Jim, you mentioned walking on the moon nineteen sixty nine.

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Speaker 1: Buck and I were just talking a few minutes ago.

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Speaker 1: If you were setting the over under on a year

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Speaker 1: into the future when it might happen, when do you

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Speaker 1: think a man will walk on Mars?

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Speaker 7: So you know, I think it's going to happen in

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Speaker 7: the next twenty years. I will also tell you and

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Speaker 7: I heard that conversation, and I think that's probably about right.

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Speaker 7: Within the next twenty years.

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Speaker 5: It is about right. Well, here's the challenge.

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Speaker 7: When you go to Mars, it's a nine month journey,

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Speaker 7: and once you get to Mars, Mars and Earth are

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Speaker 7: no longer on the same side of the Sun, which

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Speaker 7: means you have to wait two years before you can

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Speaker 7: come back to Earth. That is a very long trip.

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Speaker 7: Nine months there, two years on Mars, nine months home.

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Speaker 7: So here's what we need to do as a country.

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Speaker 7: We need to start investing in things that enable this

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Speaker 7: to go faster.

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Speaker 5: What does that mean.

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Speaker 7: We need nuclear propulsion in space, not talking about anything

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Speaker 7: that's weapons grade. I'm talking about nuclear thermal propulsion, which

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Speaker 7: NASA is now partnered with DARPA on achieving. And if

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Speaker 7: we're able to get nuclear thermal propulsion, we can drop

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Speaker 7: the time to get to Mars to like two or

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Speaker 7: three months. And on top of that, we can do

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Speaker 7: what's called an opposition class return, which means even though

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Speaker 7: Earth and Mars are not aligned on the same side

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Speaker 7: of the Sun, we can still come home, so we

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Speaker 7: can do shorter duration trips tomorrow. Of course, the path

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Speaker 7: to get there is shorter as well, and all of that,

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Speaker 7: all of that is necessary in the meantime. In the meantime,

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Speaker 7: we have to learn how to live and work on

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Speaker 7: another world for long periods of time, and we do

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Speaker 7: that at the Moon.

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Speaker 5: The glory of the Moon.

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Speaker 7: Is that it is always with the Earth. Wherever the

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Speaker 7: Earth is around the Sun, the Moon is with us.

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Speaker 7: It's always a three day journey there. It's always a

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Speaker 7: three day journey home. And we learned on Apollo thirteen

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Speaker 7: that things can go really bad on the way to

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Speaker 7: the Moon and you can still make it home safely.

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Speaker 7: The Moon is the proving ground. We're going to use

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Speaker 7: the resources of the Moon, the water ice, specifically to

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Speaker 7: live and work for long periods of time. We're going

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Speaker 7: to take all that knowledge to Mars, and I think

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Speaker 7: probably twenty years is the right time.

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Speaker 2: San Jim.

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Speaker 1: When I believe it was JFK basically said we're going

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Speaker 1: to put a man on the Moon, it was a

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Speaker 1: major moment to catalyze and bring the United States together.

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Speaker 1: Do you think if presidential can did it contender? Maybe

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Speaker 1: even the president himself should say, hey, we're going to

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Speaker 1: be on Mars and put a deadline on that. Would

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Speaker 1: that be in your mind smart to do?

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Speaker 7: I think that's absolutely critical. But the challenge is the

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Speaker 7: reason no president puts a deadline on it is because

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Speaker 7: once you have a deadline, then people want to know

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Speaker 7: how you're going to achieve it, and it comes with

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Speaker 7: a budget. Yeah, and that and that budget, of course

551
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Speaker 7: ends up being politically unpalatable and programs get canceled. We've

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Speaker 7: seen this in the past with with you know, you know,

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Speaker 7: George Herbert Walker Bush had the vision for or I'm sorry,

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Speaker 7: the Space Exploration Initiative.

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Speaker 5: George W.

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Speaker 7: Bush had the vision for space exploration. And if you start,

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Speaker 7: if you start putting these kind of things out there.

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Speaker 7: But here's the difference. Even in the last ten years.

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Speaker 7: Back then it was America alone and it was it

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Speaker 7: was government. Now we've got international partners that the Europeans

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Speaker 7: Space Agency, Canada, Japan is an amazing space partner. We've

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Speaker 7: got all these international partners, and on top of it,

563
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Speaker 7: we have this extraordinarily robust commercial marketplace driving down the

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Speaker 7: costs every day for access to space. So I think

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Speaker 7: you could put together an agenda with a date and

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Speaker 7: a budget that wouldn't be crazy. And I think if

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Speaker 7: you did that, what you would find is, again it's

568
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Speaker 7: as long as you are engaging commercial markets, you'll be

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Speaker 7: able to find that a lot of those companies that

570
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Speaker 7: are going to deliver those products or those services, those

571
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Speaker 7: companies are going to go get capital from from from

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Speaker 7: you know, private markets, and and and and help us

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Speaker 7: fund the way not just to the Moon, but.

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Speaker 5: On to Mars.

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Speaker 7: Remember think about how we do communications these days. Uh,

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Speaker 7: direct TV, some people have this network. But you also

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Speaker 7: think about Internet broadband from space.

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Speaker 5: These are all.

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Speaker 7: Communication networks that are are utilizing space. Way we do

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Speaker 7: remote sensing, national security and defense, the way we predict weather,

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Speaker 7: the way we the way we do disaster relief. So

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Speaker 7: many things are dependent on space these days. The way

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Speaker 7: we you know, increase our food supply, and and and

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Speaker 7: and find energy. All of these things are dependent on space.

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Speaker 7: This is crazy. You know, every banking transactions in the

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Speaker 7: United States of America is dependent on a timing signal

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Speaker 7: from GPS. That's how important space is to the United

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Speaker 7: States of America. We lose GPS, we lose banking. And

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Speaker 7: it's not just true of banking, it's true of the

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Speaker 7: power grid is dependent on a timing signal from GPS.

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Speaker 7: Terrestrial wireless networks I'm talking to you on a cell

592
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 7: phone right now, dependent on a timing signal from GPS.

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Speaker 7: We are dependent on space in ways that most Americans

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Speaker 7: don't realize. And it's all being driven now by commercial markets,

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Speaker 7: not by government. Government needs to lead the way. Government

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Speaker 7: needs to create a path for commercialization. And that's that's

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Speaker 7: what we need to do on the way to the Moon,

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Speaker 7: and it's what we need to do on the way

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Speaker 7: to Mark Jim Bridenstein.

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Speaker 4: Jim really appreciate all the expertise today. Sir, please come

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Speaker 4: back and we'll talk more about how we can get

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Speaker 4: to the moon. Get to Mars. I mean sorry, get

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Speaker 4: to Mars. We've already been to the moon. Get to Mars.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, sir, you bet, thank you. I was like,

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Speaker 4: wait a second, buck, what are you saying. I know

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Speaker 4: That's all of you cross the country to a two. Clay,

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Speaker 4: what do we got?

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Speaker 5: All Right?

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go in order of how long they've been

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Speaker 1: waiting Mike down in Tampa, Florida. Mike, how's it going

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Speaker 1: down there? What you got for us?

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Speaker 6: Clay and Buck?

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Speaker 5: What's up?

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Speaker 2: We are good in the dream? What you got?

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Speaker 5: Mike?

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Speaker 4: Thank you?

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Speaker 5: Love your show.

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Speaker 6: Nineteen loyal Rush lim Ball listeners since nineteen eighty eight. Uh,

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Speaker 6: you guys doing a great job. Just my tank on

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Speaker 6: the Trump DeSantis Uh, you know I voted for Trump twice.

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Speaker 6: I've been to boat parades.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 6: He wont to be a guy.

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Speaker 5: That i'd be a friend with.

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Speaker 6: Not that that matters to him, of course, but uh,

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Speaker 6: it just seems like you just can't take a win.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes You've always got to rub people's noses in it.

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Speaker 6: I don't think Trump wins Florida primary, no way. I'm

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Speaker 6: voting for Desantas, but I don't know if Trump can

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Speaker 6: win the real election. He puts so many women off

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Speaker 6: that the sentence would not do.

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Speaker 1: Look, I think that is a question that thank you

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Speaker 1: for the call. People are going to be debating for

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Speaker 1: the next year, and we've been asking this question, Buck,

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Speaker 1: and I was even talking last night. I went out

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Speaker 1: to have drinks after Hannity's show with some of the

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Speaker 1: some of the Outkit crew and some of the Fox crew,

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Speaker 1: and the number one topic was how many people are

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Speaker 1: willing to change their mind? And I don't claim to

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Speaker 1: know the answer to that, Buck, but we had let's

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Speaker 1: just say, let's just say that one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: six million people voted, all right, let's just take the

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Speaker 1: numbers as they are. Eighty one million voted for Biden.

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Speaker 1: How many would change their vote from Biden to Trump?

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Speaker 1: How many Trump people would change to Biden. My sense,

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Speaker 1: and I'm curious if you would agree with this, Buck,

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Speaker 1: is that ultimately most people are not changing their mind

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Speaker 1: because nobody wants to admit at this point in our

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Speaker 1: country that they were wrong. And COVID has shown us that.

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Speaker 1: So the question to me is how many of those

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Speaker 1: Biden voters just wouldn't show up right because they are

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Speaker 1: upset that Biden has been a joke, but they won't

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Speaker 1: admit it and flip to Trump, so instead they just

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Speaker 1: wouldn't show up. That to me is the question, and

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Speaker 1: I don't claim to know the answer, but I think

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Speaker 1: that's the one that we're going to be debating for

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Speaker 1: the next year.

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Speaker 4: Plus what else we got? Next up on the line?

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Speaker 1: Next up is Eric in South Georgia. Where are you

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Speaker 1: in South Georgia?

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Speaker 9: Eric, We'll town's called Thomasville, about thirty minutes.

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Speaker 1: North of Allahassee, Okay, not far from the Florida Georgia line.

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Speaker 1: There's a famous country band under that name, if you

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Speaker 1: want to call him a country band. But how do

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Speaker 1: you break down the Trump to Santa set up?

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Speaker 9: I mean, the way I look at it is that

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Speaker 9: was obviously a big Trump supporter, big Trump fan. Living

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Speaker 9: down here, I do get a daily dose of Desantas,

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Speaker 9: and I gotta tell you he is a breath of

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Speaker 9: fresh air just on every topic. And I think the

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Speaker 9: bigger question is, I don't think from can win obviously

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Speaker 9: lost to the mentioned Joe already in twenty twenty and

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Speaker 9: sixty of the country hates them. I just don't ever

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Speaker 9: see a path forward where he could win. And I think,

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Speaker 9: more importantly, I think the Republican Party has got to

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Speaker 9: phisit in a big way.

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Speaker 2: Okay, look open lines.

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Speaker 1: It's Friday, eight hundred and two eight two two eight

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Speaker 1: eight two. A lot of strong opinions out there. I

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Speaker 1: love to hear from our audience, because Buck, it's not

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Speaker 1: uncommon that somebody says something makes me think a little

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Speaker 1: bit different.

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Speaker 2: That's what we're trying to get.

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Speaker 1: Intelligent discussion, the most intelligent discussion anywhere in media.

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Speaker 2: Final hour of the week.

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Speaker 6: Up next,