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<v Speaker 1>This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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<v Speaker 1>on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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<v Speaker 1>and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he is

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<v Speaker 2>the Matt Williamson and of course the Steelers making some

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<v Speaker 2>big news today for the first time, not just relieving

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<v Speaker 2>an offensive coordinator or a coordinator of his duties, but

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<v Speaker 2>firing him in mid season. They've they've moved away from

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<v Speaker 2>or taken play calling duties away from guys in best race.

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<v Speaker 2>Sherman comes to mind, changes his response, Yeah, nineteen ninety eight,

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<v Speaker 2>but they had never taken the move of actually firing

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<v Speaker 2>the coordinator. And it all comes down to one thing, Matt,

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<v Speaker 2>what the Steelers haven't done recently, which.

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<v Speaker 3>Is complete passes.

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<v Speaker 2>Complete passes.

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<v Speaker 3>He complete more passes. Yep, that's the.

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<v Speaker 2>Goal here, That is the goal. You know, whether this

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<v Speaker 2>does that, we don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Coordinator hires are always hard for me. Any assistant coach

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<v Speaker 3>stuff is hard for me because I've been in the

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<v Speaker 3>building and I know what they do, and I know

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<v Speaker 3>the public doesn't know what they do, and I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know what they do now. I will say, I need

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<v Speaker 3>to stress this to no end. They've played the hardest

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<v Speaker 3>schedule of defenses and it's not even close. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>it's not even close. So higher fire whatever, I would

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<v Speaker 3>expect things from this point forward. Yeah, because the people

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<v Speaker 3>they're playing are worse.

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<v Speaker 2>Until they get to the Ravens in week seven eighteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean yeah, there's it's not like until they

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<v Speaker 3>get to that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean right, They've played a ridiculous slate of defenses.

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<v Speaker 3>To the defenses, and I gets easier as it should

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<v Speaker 3>because it's been very, very difficult. That's not an excuse.

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<v Speaker 3>You still need to win, you still need to complete

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<v Speaker 3>more pass It's.

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<v Speaker 2>A it's a result driven business. There's no offens or

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<v Speaker 2>buts about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I think what happened, you know, Mike Tomlin looked at

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<v Speaker 2>this and said, Okay, we're six and four. We can't

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<v Speaker 2>continue to do that. Something something has to change. Something

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<v Speaker 2>has to change, and I don't want to change the

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback at this point. So beyond not changing the quarterback,

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<v Speaker 2>what other change can I make? Well? I can, I

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<v Speaker 2>can change who's calling the place. Here's the thing, folks,

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<v Speaker 2>the playbook's not getting changed. The playbook is the playbook.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, You're not going to go back to day one

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<v Speaker 3>mini camp install in practice.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody asked the question. Somebody asked actually asked the question

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<v Speaker 2>today in the press conference, Mike Tomlin, did you look

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<v Speaker 2>outside the building to bring somebody in in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of a season? Are you out of your mind?

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<v Speaker 3>You could bring someone in as a consultant. You can't

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<v Speaker 3>bring someone in be like, hey, why you install your

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<v Speaker 3>in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Next three days? Right, Let's see what we get to run.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean we'll all learn French tomorrow and have

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<v Speaker 3>there's some Rosetta stone here for that, and we'll all

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<v Speaker 3>have huge frenchmen chasing us, trying to kill us, and

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<v Speaker 3>we the only way to fend them off as we

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<v Speaker 3>know French perfectly tomorrow. Now, the sequencing of plays will change, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>tendencies and maybe there's a section of the playbook that

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<v Speaker 3>they just throw in the fire. I mean, you might

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<v Speaker 3>trim things, you might have an idea or two, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm keeping an eye out for more play action, more

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<v Speaker 3>middle of the field throws. But I've seen middle of

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<v Speaker 3>the field receivers open and the ball doesn't go to them.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen those throws turn down. Yes, now maybe the

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<v Speaker 2>emphasis becomes on making those throws.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right or right?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh you know that that. You know, I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>expect it to look night and day. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's kind of what the expectation is for a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people. Know they're gonna come out and they're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>run the football and they're going to play off of that.

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<v Speaker 3>And frankly, if they get three hundred and twenty five

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<v Speaker 3>yards of offense and twenty two points on Sunday, please

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<v Speaker 3>don't tweet me. See that was all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I fully expected them, regardless of who the coordinator

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<v Speaker 2>is we talked about yesterday, still look good on offense

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<v Speaker 2>against the Cincinnati Bengals.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. No, I think they should have more success, way

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<v Speaker 3>more success than against the Browns. I'll tell you that

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<v Speaker 3>in Cleveland. Yeah. I mean, if they didn't show more

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<v Speaker 3>success no matter who's in charge going forward this week,

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<v Speaker 3>that would have been very alarming to me. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>that's something I was gonna predict, and we did yesterday

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<v Speaker 3>to some degree. I mean, it's an easier opponent. I

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<v Speaker 3>expect them still to run the ball a lot. I

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<v Speaker 3>expect them still to be adverse to turnovers, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean those messages I think come from the head coach,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's still the head coach and still the same

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<v Speaker 3>owner and those things. Maybe there'll be some more passing

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<v Speaker 3>game concepts that are a little different, But I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think the untrained eye would look at the offense and

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<v Speaker 3>be like, wow, it's drastically different. I don't think the

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<v Speaker 3>trained eye would look at it and be like, wow,

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<v Speaker 3>it's drastically different. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's here's what the Bengals have allowed this year in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of points. Twenty four, twenty seven, sixteen, twenty seven,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty thirteen, seventeen eighteen, had a little stretcher where they

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<v Speaker 2>were pretty good, and then the last two weeks has

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<v Speaker 2>been thirty and thirty four.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, and they're gonna get less help from their

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<v Speaker 3>offense now than at any point since Burrow was healthy.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if you look at the at the total yard.

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<v Speaker 3>Shocked the defense as bad as it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen to these yardage totals.

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<v Speaker 3>I bit, they're high.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, three point fifty four fifteen, two ninety two against

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<v Speaker 2>the Rams. Okay, four hundred that's against the Titans against

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<v Speaker 2>the Titans, two ninety four against the Cardinals. Uh three

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<v Speaker 2>eighty four four sixty three, seventeen five, four and four

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<v Speaker 2>oh five. Yes, the Steelers offense is go. It had

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<v Speaker 2>better look better this week if it doesn't, now you now.

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<v Speaker 3>What, Yeah, I just know everyone isn't. Just like, why

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<v Speaker 3>didn't they do that earlier? It would have been so

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<v Speaker 3>much better. I don't know that it would have been.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that. Yeah, Kyle Shanahan could have been Bill Walsh.

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<v Speaker 2>Could have could have come out and coordinated that game

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<v Speaker 2>on Sunday, And I don't know that it would have

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<v Speaker 2>looked more it would it looked? Would it look better? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Might they have scored fourteen points to win the game, yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>But to put it all on you know, the plate

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<v Speaker 2>of this wasn't all on Matt Canada. That is my point.

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<v Speaker 3>To look at it like BC and AC, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean, Like since that point they were really good.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, now that being said, he wasn't correcting the problems.

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<v Speaker 2>Kenny Pickett had looked worse and worse in the last

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<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks. That has to change.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm not objecting to the move. I mean by

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<v Speaker 3>no means I think some thing had to change.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm surprised by them, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean Steeler history shows. As you've opened the show

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<v Speaker 3>with that, that's not usually their move. But you could

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<v Speaker 3>also see players getting frustrated. This needs to change things

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<v Speaker 3>like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's kind of what that what pushed

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<v Speaker 2>this exactly, not that not that Mike Tomlin was in

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<v Speaker 2>danger of losing the locker room. But again, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>The players are the players.

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<v Speaker 3>They're frustrated.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to You're not gonna you can't change you

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<v Speaker 2>can't change the players that display and everybody, especially offensively,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's playing that. I mean, who who do you want

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<v Speaker 2>to see play that? Not playing at all?

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<v Speaker 3>Right, I'm sure there's people like, well Warren needs to

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<v Speaker 3>be the feature back, Okay, give them five more carries

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<v Speaker 3>a game. But well, here's the thing, he's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be a part of it either way.

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<v Speaker 2>The guy who makes that decision is Eddie Faulkner, who

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<v Speaker 2>plays and when what plays within the scope of his room.

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<v Speaker 3>People might not even know that, you know, the position

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<v Speaker 3>coach is like, get in there, Jalen.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not that's not a coordinating And now the coordinator

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<v Speaker 2>and head coach have say no, we want this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>But most of the play with eleven personnel most of

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<v Speaker 3>the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there, most of the time, it's the it's the

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<v Speaker 2>position coach who decides, Okay, this this guy's in there

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<v Speaker 2>in this situation when you're rotating guys and things of

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<v Speaker 2>that nature. Offensive line is different, yeah, because those guys

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<v Speaker 2>are on the field constantly. Quarterbacks different because those guys

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<v Speaker 2>are on the field constantly. But the rotations are decided

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<v Speaker 2>by the position coach fresh not yea.

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<v Speaker 3>Then the players, they can pull themselves out each a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll come off the field, or you know, a back

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<v Speaker 3>will tap out, or receiver runs go routes and just

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<v Speaker 3>goes right to the sideline. But I wonder, and what's

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<v Speaker 3>what's interesting from and hard from where we're gonna sit here,

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<v Speaker 3>is is that a Canada change, a Falconer change or

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<v Speaker 3>was it that change coming anyway? So, like the Steelers

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<v Speaker 3>are really high in eleven personnel in the league. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>Fiarm's been hurt, you know, like if all of a

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<v Speaker 3>sudden they start using a lot more twelve. That happened

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<v Speaker 3>to coincide with Fierman, No, you got that guy back. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that was Canada's plan anyway, you know, like maybe Tomlins

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<v Speaker 3>was that was his plan from the beginning. I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 3>sure the plan wasn't. Hey, Matt Canada, coach Canada, you

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<v Speaker 3>get all the hard games and we'll give the easier

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<v Speaker 3>ones to somebody else. Like, I don't think that was it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I I the other thing that really kind

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<v Speaker 2>of it bothers me that people were celebrating somebody losing

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<v Speaker 2>their job.

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<v Speaker 3>I got fired, you know. I mean I use this example.

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<v Speaker 3>My son went to school with Keith Haley's son. Act.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there you go, Keith Hale. I don't know who.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a good dude. But anyway, riverboat captain interesting Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>But anyways, Todd son couldn't go to school for a while,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like he was in like third grade being

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<v Speaker 3>human beings? You know what are we doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, it's just it was a tough situation.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I felt bad from for Matt Canada because

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<v Speaker 2>it's it. I don't believe that it was all Matt

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<v Speaker 2>Canada's fault. No, the players have to execute one person's fault.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care what places you're calling if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>execute them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, I can remember when we had J. T. Thomas

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<v Speaker 2>on a couple of years ago at the he was

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<v Speaker 2>out of training camp and and JT. Thomas telling us

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<v Speaker 2>the Steelers defense in the seventies had basically three three plays,

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<v Speaker 2>right right, Like that's all they did. That's all did

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<v Speaker 2>because they.

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<v Speaker 3>Were better, better, and they could shout.

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<v Speaker 2>As they could shout across the line of scrimmage of

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<v Speaker 2>the quarterbok, Hey we're cover two.

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<v Speaker 3>Still, maybe we'll blitz Lambert this time, you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever. Its side note, But like in those conversations,

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<v Speaker 3>that's when we were people were lobbying to get Donnie

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<v Speaker 3>Shell in the Hall of Fame. He's like, well, if

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<v Speaker 3>they brought three receivers, Donnie would just be our nickel corner.

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<v Speaker 3>There wasn't nickel corners back then, Like oh, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And and and that's what the offenses were. There wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>all this scheming and like the quarterbacks calling the plays

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<v Speaker 2>they had maybe, I honestly, how many plays do they

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<v Speaker 2>have the court? Like May twenty five? You go into

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<v Speaker 2>a game of twenty five plays, We're gonna run the

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<v Speaker 2>same trap play here comes eighteen times.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly, and then again, and the defenses weren't diverse.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes you bring a third, third receiver out. That was

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<v Speaker 3>revolutionary start throwing the tight ends was revolutionary. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I can remember Kevin Dotson when when he

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<v Speaker 2>got drafted by the Steelers. One of the stories on

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<v Speaker 2>him was that he would tell because he played at

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<v Speaker 2>a small you know, a smaller du Yeah, Louisiana State States.

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<v Speaker 2>He was at just yeah, flat louis It was just Louisiana.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>He would tell the defensive lineman across room and what

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<v Speaker 2>the what the play was coming, because I don't care,

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to dominate him. Well, so you're saying,

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<v Speaker 2>well that guy knew what was coming, you still have

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<v Speaker 2>to stop it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, Like I'm sure Randy Johnson could go to

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<v Speaker 3>the miners yeah, rehab and be like here comes the heater.

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<v Speaker 2>He could do it in the majors too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but no, times are different. I mean, it's why

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<v Speaker 3>we went down that rabbit hole. But it was kind

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<v Speaker 3>of fun. It's a massive job. It's a complex job.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm betting the product on the field is better. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know that the coaching will be better, And maybe

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<v Speaker 3>it will be. We won't really know.

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<v Speaker 2>What we have seen. Like I compared it to Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Brady taking over the play calling duties this past week

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<v Speaker 2>for the for the Buffalo Bills. Well, hey, the Bills

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<v Speaker 2>went out there and they scored a bunch of points

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<v Speaker 2>against the Jets and they won. Yeah, because quarterback didn't

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<v Speaker 2>throw a bunch of interceptions. I guarantee you. The former

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<v Speaker 2>offensive coordinator there was not telling Josh Allen, Hey, Josh,

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<v Speaker 2>why don't you throw a couple to the other team

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<v Speaker 2>this week? And just to make just to make it

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<v Speaker 2>a little more challenging.

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<v Speaker 3>They were third in DVOA and e p A when

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<v Speaker 3>he got to let go. Yeah, you know, like that's

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<v Speaker 3>what third best offenses in the league do.

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<v Speaker 2>And sometimes these moves don't work, as we just saw

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<v Speaker 2>with Frank Reich and Carolina. Absolutely, you turn it over

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<v Speaker 2>to the other guy for three weeks and it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>get any better. And he says, you know what, if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going down, I'm going down calling my place.

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<v Speaker 3>The grass isn't always greener. But I do think it

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<v Speaker 3>was time to change the grass, you know. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>it sounded like.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't disagree. Something had to change. You couldn't continue

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<v Speaker 2>to do the same thing that you've been.

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<v Speaker 3>Doing because they don't complete enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't complete enough passes. They're auly one hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 2>one yards rushing per game over the last three games.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, yeah, that's you.

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<v Speaker 2>That would lead the league by a lot, by a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I mean they're rocketing up all the lists and

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<v Speaker 3>everything too. I mean they're that part of the offense

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<v Speaker 3>isn't broken.

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<v Speaker 2>From Yeah, but they don't complete enough passes.

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<v Speaker 3>They do, and that has to change. Hopefully the new

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<v Speaker 3>coaches in charge, the new input will make life easier

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<v Speaker 3>on Kenny, or get him to let the ball go

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<v Speaker 3>when open guys are there more or well.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the conundrum. That's the conundrum here, Matt. You're averaging

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and eighty rushing yards per game. Life should

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<v Speaker 2>be really easy for your quarterback in that situation.

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<v Speaker 3>It really should be, and it hasn't been at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can't do it, you can. He's averaged i

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<v Speaker 2>think one hundred and twenty yards passing over the last

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<v Speaker 2>three games, with them averaging one hundred and eighty yards rushing.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not because they're not throwing passes. It's because

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<v Speaker 2>they're not completing enough passes.

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<v Speaker 3>Completing enough passes. Yeah, they're getting the three hundred yards part,

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<v Speaker 3>the hard part you're doing. Yeah, the one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>eighty part. Yeah, you should be about one hundred yard

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<v Speaker 3>rushing two hundred yards passing to get the three hundred

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever. But no, Picket needs to get better. Passing

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<v Speaker 3>game needs to get better. Protection needs to get better

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<v Speaker 3>than it was this past week. Maybe there will be

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<v Speaker 3>ways to scheme more guys open, but I have not

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<v Speaker 3>seen a lack of open receivers, especially over the last

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<v Speaker 3>month or so.

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<v Speaker 2>And what we're not privy to is what Picket has

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<v Speaker 2>been told that we will know something, and we'll never

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<v Speaker 2>know that in some of these situations coaching, Again.

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<v Speaker 3>What are they instructing him to do as he thought?

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<v Speaker 3>Assume he's just following orders or he wouldn't still be

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<v Speaker 3>out there. Yeah, I'm telling I know, they aren't telling

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<v Speaker 3>him to not complete passes.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, just like the Bills weren't telling Josh Allen to

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<v Speaker 2>throw interceptions right.

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<v Speaker 3>Or bring a twelfth guy out to try to drop

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<v Speaker 3>a block the extra point or whatever, a field goal. Whatever. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I do wonder, and again we'll never know this. This

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<v Speaker 3>game day, prep, game week, prep change, you know, like,

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<v Speaker 3>does their install periods different is probably to some.

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<v Speaker 2>Degree, you know, well, you'll have different voices leading those meetings.

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<v Speaker 3>With the offense and they're gonna see things a little different.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Now, typically when you see something like this is

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<v Speaker 2>this is where it's going to be interesting because you

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<v Speaker 2>now have Eddie Faulkner coordinating the offense, but Mike Sullivan

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<v Speaker 2>calling it on game day.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I was gonna ask you if you knew exactly

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<v Speaker 3>how that is laid out. Are they considered co coordinators

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<v Speaker 3>at the moment?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess yeah, Yeah, I mean so you know, during

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<v Speaker 2>the week, basically what Faulkner is going to be doing

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<v Speaker 2>is running the staff and the way the Steelers come

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<v Speaker 2>up with the game plan. Again, this wasn't just a

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Canada thing. No, they all have everybody has their

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<v Speaker 2>input a week.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not just I sit around do nothing until the

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<v Speaker 3>running backs come in the room and we coach them out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>they're they they're in charge of protection, they're in charge.

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<v Speaker 2>Of so they all do their they all do their

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<v Speaker 2>individual field film study, or they do it all together.

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<v Speaker 2>They come up with a plan here's what we can

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<v Speaker 2>execute with our guys, and then they go to the

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<v Speaker 2>offensive coordinator. He comes up with the plan to Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>here's here's where we're gonna sequences or you know in

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<v Speaker 2>the end game stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean if you go, if you walk through

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<v Speaker 3>the coaches area of a facility during the week, it's

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<v Speaker 3>very very quiet. All the defensive coaches are in their room,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, chewing and scratching and watching tape in a

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<v Speaker 3>dark room, and all the offensive coaches are in their

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<v Speaker 3>room unless it's press conference time or you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>all the other time that we don't know about is

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<v Speaker 3>almost always you know, in the room seven I mean

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<v Speaker 3>like auld pit, there would be six or seven eight

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<v Speaker 3>guys in the room, you know, the offense or NFL

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<v Speaker 3>will be more. There's a bigger coaching staff, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you might have two defensive back coaches or whatever, and

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<v Speaker 3>they're all in there, you know, putting their ideas together.

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<v Speaker 3>They're watching their guys or watching the upcoming opponent and say,

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<v Speaker 3>well we try this, we should do that. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that guys, that guy's the snickers bar. We need

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<v Speaker 2>attack him.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely. So everyone's job is gonna have to change a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit, you know, because you've one less person, one

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<v Speaker 3>less piece of the pie. But the pie the job

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<v Speaker 3>is still the same size. Yeah, the week, So that's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be the interesting part. Of this and you know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be There'll be subtle differences, there's no

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<v Speaker 2>doubt about it, no question, and in that that can help.

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<v Speaker 2>We've seen situations where again where that has helped things.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes the Steelers less predictable than they had been agreed.

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<v Speaker 3>Agreed, so we see different types of motions where we

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<v Speaker 3>see more play actions. Might Connor Hayward's snaps spike or

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just making stuff up. Might Austin be out there

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<v Speaker 3>more his role has been dropped more and more.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe not if they're going to run the ball the

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<v Speaker 2>way they are agreed. That's Alan Robbins has been a big.

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<v Speaker 3>Part of that tight end blocker guy. Yeah, that's why

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<v Speaker 3>Austin's you know, stuff is down, you know, So it'll

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<v Speaker 3>be interesting. Maybe there are bigger changes than I'm letting on,

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<v Speaker 3>but I would be shocked.

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<v Speaker 2>At this point. We just don't know. Oh until we

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<v Speaker 2>see a couple of games. We won't even know after

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<v Speaker 2>just watching against Cincinnati, not because you need at least

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of games.

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<v Speaker 3>Anything could be a Cincinnati specific game plan. Yeah, no

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<v Speaker 3>matter what that they would plan in the day that

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<v Speaker 3>they were playing on doing last Cincinnati game, like well

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<v Speaker 3>we'll keep eighty percent of that and then we'll add something,

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<v Speaker 3>you know whatever. So especially at division game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he just it's it's it's gonna be interesting, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's definite gonna be interesting. To your point, again, let

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<v Speaker 2>me just go over those numbering they've given up three

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<v Speaker 2>point fifty four, fifteen two ninety two, four hundred two

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<v Speaker 2>ninety four, three eighty four, four sixty three, seventeen five,

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<v Speaker 2>forty four and four or five. They've given up nine

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and forty nine yards and sixty four points the last.

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<v Speaker 3>Two weeks, just the last two weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's against Houston and Baltimore. Now two good teams.

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<v Speaker 3>To good teams. But like when we talked about the

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<v Speaker 3>Browns defense last week, we'd say things like, yeah, ab

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<v Speaker 3>Arizona never quarterback, Tennessee's not very good. Well, these are

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<v Speaker 3>the same teams, yeah, you know, I mean not every

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<v Speaker 3>game is the same, but they're still the same teams

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<v Speaker 3>more or less. And Cincinnati's defense is very disappointing this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's certainly not been what it was, certainly what

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<v Speaker 2>it was supposed to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyways, they allow a lot of explosives. They're not good

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<v Speaker 3>on first downs. They have two new safeties that I

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<v Speaker 3>think has been somewhat of the problem too. But I'm

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<v Speaker 3>a little shocked that it's as blow average as it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're gonna get to a break. He is Matt Williamson.

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<v Speaker 2>we mentioned this this Bengals defense. They're giving up three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and eighty six point one yards per game. There's

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<v Speaker 2>actually two defenses worse than that, which is hardly it's

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<v Speaker 2>the Chargers in the Broncos brutal the Broncos are still

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<v Speaker 2>giving up four hundred yards total yards per game.

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<v Speaker 3>They had won awful one, but they've had a lot

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<v Speaker 3>about us too.

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<v Speaker 2>The Bengals allow two hundred and forty seven point eight

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<v Speaker 2>passing yards per game and one hundred and thirty eight

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<v Speaker 2>point three rushing yards per game, So you could pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much a lot of times when you see numbers like

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<v Speaker 2>like if you look at, say the Chargers, people look

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<v Speaker 2>at the Chargers and say, well, the Chargers a run defense.

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<v Speaker 2>They're only giving up one hundred and tw rushing yards

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<v Speaker 2>per game. They must have a good run defense, not

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily because you're allowing two ninety one point six through

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<v Speaker 2>the air. Teams are choosing not to run the ball

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<v Speaker 2>as much against.

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<v Speaker 3>You, you know, Like we talked about that a lot

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<v Speaker 3>with the back to back Jags Titans games, that they

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<v Speaker 3>excel stopping the run. Therefore teams throw against them more,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and they're kind of a pass funnel team. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes you're as bad at both, which seems to be

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<v Speaker 3>the case.

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<v Speaker 2>With Cincinnati's the second worst run defense in the league.

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<v Speaker 2>Now Denver's giving up one hundred and sixty rushing yards

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<v Speaker 2>per game. They're dead last Cincinnati's what w one thirty

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<v Speaker 2>eight point three, that's next to last, So there's a

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two yard difference then between them and the next team.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's still horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Five yards per carry, five yards per carry, Like people

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<v Speaker 2>aren't just nickeling like this isn't Oh, they're just sticking

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<v Speaker 2>with the run a lot, and you know, averaging four

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<v Speaker 2>yards of carry against you know, five yards rushing per game.

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<v Speaker 3>And sometimes when we look at some of those big

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<v Speaker 3>numbers garbage time, they're just running like crazy or something

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<v Speaker 3>like that. But this is they run the ball well

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<v Speaker 3>against the Bengals. Yeah, and consistently.

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<v Speaker 2>The one thing that they've done well, which is also

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<v Speaker 2>the one thing that Denver has done well, if they

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<v Speaker 2>forced ten fumbles.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, what's really interesting is, I think everyone at this

0:22:18.480 --> 0:22:21.120
<v Speaker 3>point knows the Steelers have been great with turnover differential.

0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:24.080
<v Speaker 3>They're best in the league. But if you mimic, if

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<v Speaker 3>you just go to turnover differential, the Bengals almost have

0:22:27.200 --> 0:22:30.720
<v Speaker 3>the exact same numbers. Their turnover differential is only one less.

0:22:31.200 --> 0:22:35.040
<v Speaker 3>They cause like one fewer interceptions. The offensive stuff, I

0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:37.520
<v Speaker 3>think is exactly the same. Fumbles and interceptions are the

0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:41.520
<v Speaker 3>same numbers. So they're living off that a little bit too,

0:22:41.600 --> 0:22:43.920
<v Speaker 3>because the defense hasn't been good and their offense was

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<v Speaker 3>really bad when when Burrow's not been himself, will put

0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:47.600
<v Speaker 3>it that way.

0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:49.879
<v Speaker 2>Denver's giving up five and a half yards per carry,

0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:51.960
<v Speaker 2>by the way, that's I mean, that's just awful.

0:22:52.080 --> 0:22:55.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they've ben a chance to help thank for that too.

0:22:55.680 --> 0:22:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But yeah, so five yards per carry. Those are

0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:00.760
<v Speaker 2>the only two teams in the league allowing five or

0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:03.440
<v Speaker 2>more yards rushing per game, or five more yards per

0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:05.600
<v Speaker 2>carry per game. The Steelers are now at four point

0:23:05.640 --> 0:23:08.640
<v Speaker 2>four yards rushing per game. I think over the over

0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:11.840
<v Speaker 2>the last I looked at the number going into the

0:23:11.920 --> 0:23:14.320
<v Speaker 2>last their previous three games. Going into the game against

0:23:14.320 --> 0:23:16.560
<v Speaker 2>the Browns, it was three point eight yards per carry,

0:23:17.040 --> 0:23:18.680
<v Speaker 2>and it went down from that one because the only

0:23:18.720 --> 0:23:21.840
<v Speaker 2>gave up three point one yards. The defense.

0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:24.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, since Cam has been back, it's been very

0:23:24.320 --> 0:23:26.640
<v Speaker 3>very good. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I think you're ting about

0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:29.680
<v Speaker 3>steel offense against the Bengals defense, which also is going

0:23:29.720 --> 0:23:30.280
<v Speaker 3>the right direction.

0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:34.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that I mean some of the stuff they

0:23:34.600 --> 0:23:37.960
<v Speaker 2>gave up some explosive runs early in the season, those

0:23:37.960 --> 0:23:41.199
<v Speaker 2>are kind of gone away. Screen Bay had one that

0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:43.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, but you know they've they've been pretty consistent

0:23:44.000 --> 0:23:48.120
<v Speaker 2>with that. So you can run on this Bengals team,

0:23:48.640 --> 0:23:50.560
<v Speaker 2>but you can also throw on this Bengals yea.

0:23:50.680 --> 0:23:52.480
<v Speaker 3>And I don't think their defense as bad players.

0:23:53.040 --> 0:23:54.680
<v Speaker 2>No, No, I don't think so either.

0:23:54.760 --> 0:23:56.520
<v Speaker 3>I haven't wrapped my head around what is the big

0:23:56.560 --> 0:23:59.760
<v Speaker 3>problem here, because it's not all boy they've been in

0:23:59.760 --> 0:24:02.240
<v Speaker 3>the few too much or they've been hit hard by injuries.

0:24:02.359 --> 0:24:02.840
<v Speaker 2>Not really.

0:24:03.240 --> 0:24:04.680
<v Speaker 3>I mean it's not unusual.

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:08.399
<v Speaker 2>They're giving up eight yards per pass attempt, yeah, which

0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:12.639
<v Speaker 2>is next to last. Yeah. The only team worse than

0:24:12.640 --> 0:24:16.520
<v Speaker 2>that is the Chargers at eight point one. So it's

0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:18.800
<v Speaker 2>the deep ball you're they're giving up deep stuff. Now,

0:24:20.160 --> 0:24:23.000
<v Speaker 2>only thirteen touchdown passes allowed this year and they have

0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:28.360
<v Speaker 2>twelve interceptions. The twelve interceptions was that second ty tight Yeah,

0:24:28.400 --> 0:24:32.159
<v Speaker 2>tie for second. San Francisco leads with with fourteen. A

0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:35.240
<v Speaker 2>big part of that has been the inside linebackers, Yes,

0:24:35.280 --> 0:24:37.200
<v Speaker 2>getting their their hands on the ball, and they're good.

0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:39.920
<v Speaker 3>They cover a lot of ground. Pratt and Wilson yeah players.

0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:42.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I don't necessarily, but they've had issues covering

0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:43.240
<v Speaker 2>tight ends.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they have. I know that in the fantasy world.

0:24:45.600 --> 0:24:46.359
<v Speaker 3>They're like at the bottom the.

0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:50.600
<v Speaker 2>League, bottom the league in that you know, obviously, Yeah,

0:24:50.600 --> 0:24:52.400
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of bad players.

0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:56.479
<v Speaker 3>The defensive front's good. I mean, I'm not sure exactly

0:24:56.520 --> 0:24:58.200
<v Speaker 3>what the issues are, but I will find out.

0:24:58.320 --> 0:25:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a it's a complete disconnect. I mean, the

0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:04.560
<v Speaker 2>Steelers pass defense has not been great this year. No,

0:25:04.600 --> 0:25:10.040
<v Speaker 2>it's it's very middle of the package. Completion percentage is awesome. Yeah,

0:25:10.200 --> 0:25:13.520
<v Speaker 2>fifty eight point fours tops towards.

0:25:13.280 --> 0:25:15.520
<v Speaker 3>The top of the lake, and they take the ball

0:25:15.560 --> 0:25:16.680
<v Speaker 3>away and they create.

0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:20.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they've given up twelve touchdown passes eleven interceptions. Yeah,

0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:23.359
<v Speaker 2>so I mean they're not giving up the touchdowns, no,

0:25:23.800 --> 0:25:25.919
<v Speaker 2>but they're picking the ball off. But they're giving up

0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:26.879
<v Speaker 2>some plays.

0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:28.879
<v Speaker 3>But we know receivers have had big days.

0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, not so much as recently though.

0:25:31.240 --> 0:25:34.240
<v Speaker 3>No, Maury wasn't great, and you know, Hopkins wasn't great.

0:25:34.960 --> 0:25:36.359
<v Speaker 3>I think Porter being in there has something to do

0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:36.480
<v Speaker 3>with that.

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, so they've cleaned up some of these things.

0:25:39.080 --> 0:25:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Now it's just a.

0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:42.920
<v Speaker 3>Matter of complete more pass completing.

0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:44.600
<v Speaker 2>More passes and and maybe you got something. And I

0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:47.280
<v Speaker 2>think that's I think that's when you when you start

0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:50.720
<v Speaker 2>looking at why the Steelers made this move. Now, yes

0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:52.680
<v Speaker 2>they're six, they could have looked a we're six and four,

0:25:52.760 --> 0:25:54.399
<v Speaker 2>We're right in the mix of this thing. We're in

0:25:54.440 --> 0:25:58.240
<v Speaker 2>good shape. But you don't want to keep living the

0:25:58.240 --> 0:25:59.200
<v Speaker 2>way that you were living.

0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:03.000
<v Speaker 3>It's a hard way to live. And frankly, I think

0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:07.640
<v Speaker 3>they would be with an average NFL passing game. They're

0:26:07.720 --> 0:26:10.560
<v Speaker 3>the eighth best team in the league, you know, something

0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:12.360
<v Speaker 3>like that, maybe an eight and two team right now,

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 3>or challenging for a division title with an average NFL

0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:17.600
<v Speaker 3>passing game, you know, I mean that means protection, that

0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:20.200
<v Speaker 3>means routes, quarterback, all the above.

0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:24.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I you know, and I look at what's

0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:27.119
<v Speaker 2>happening right now in the AFC, and we'll get to

0:26:27.200 --> 0:26:28.800
<v Speaker 2>a little a little bit more on this and when

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<v Speaker 2>we do power rankings later. Does Kansas City look nearly

0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:34.600
<v Speaker 2>as scary as it has in previous years.

0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:35.920
<v Speaker 3>They don't think receivers that can catch.

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:37.520
<v Speaker 2>They don't have any receivers.

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:39.800
<v Speaker 3>Any receivers period. They do not.

0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:43.359
<v Speaker 2>Even Patrick Mahomes can't elevate that passing game. Once you

0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:46.760
<v Speaker 2>take once you take Kelsey out of the equation, it's

0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:47.880
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of guys.

0:26:47.640 --> 0:26:51.000
<v Speaker 3>And I wonder if Kelsey is losing a slight step

0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:53.320
<v Speaker 3>and he seems to have off the field interest.

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:55.280
<v Speaker 2>Might be it might have might be a little distracted

0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:56.720
<v Speaker 2>at this point.

0:26:56.560 --> 0:26:58.320
<v Speaker 3>But still, I mean, I thought that was what happened

0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:01.520
<v Speaker 3>to him last year when Tyreek got traded. I'm quadrupled.

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:04.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, now the teams are doing that. Yeah, they don't

0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:06.640
<v Speaker 2>have Yeah, they don't have the receivers to beat it.

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:10.840
<v Speaker 2>They don't look particularly scary. We've seen the Ravens, the

0:27:10.840 --> 0:27:14.600
<v Speaker 2>Steelers beat the Ravens. I'm just talking about teams in general.

0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, Okay, I mean, yes, they're good, but

0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:19.840
<v Speaker 2>they're not dominant.

0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:22.119
<v Speaker 3>No, I mean the Bengals don't exist anymore.

0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 2>The Bengals are out. Like going into the season, the

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:27.720
<v Speaker 2>teams that you looked at that, okay, you got you

0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:29.920
<v Speaker 2>got to get past Kansas City, you got to get

0:27:29.920 --> 0:27:33.360
<v Speaker 2>past uh Cincinnati, you got to get past Buffalo. Those

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:35.440
<v Speaker 2>are the three big dogs in the a f C. Yeah,

0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:37.919
<v Speaker 2>well two of them have been neutered. Yeah, I'm not

0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:40.440
<v Speaker 2>sure the Bills are buried yet. I think the Bengals

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:41.720
<v Speaker 2>are buried. The Bengals are done.

0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:42.560
<v Speaker 3>Bengals are done.

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 2>The Bengals are done the Bills.

0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:45.720
<v Speaker 3>Bills have to do miraculous stuff.

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:47.359
<v Speaker 2>They're gonna have to come up with, Like they still

0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:50.400
<v Speaker 2>have to go to Philadelphia, they still get they still

0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:52.560
<v Speaker 2>get to play Miami, they still get to play Kansas City,

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:54.360
<v Speaker 2>and they still have to play Dallas.

0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:56.959
<v Speaker 3>No, that's the thing is they just dug too big

0:27:57.000 --> 0:27:57.320
<v Speaker 3>a hole.

0:27:57.920 --> 0:28:02.000
<v Speaker 2>Losing teams like New England and the Jets could be

0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 2>what keeps them out of the playoff picture.

0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:06.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and a lot's going to change. And unfortunately we've seen,

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:09.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, watching injury, borrow injury, things like that that

0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:13.960
<v Speaker 3>have changed things. But are the Browns a contender? I

0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:18.040
<v Speaker 3>mean they're Jacksonville a contender, Miami a contender. Like I'm

0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:19.680
<v Speaker 3>not saying to contend to get the dot.

0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:22.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know that those teams are markedly there. I

0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 2>don't know that they're markedly better than the Steelers.

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 3>If the Steelers complete more passes.

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:31.840
<v Speaker 2>The bit just works all week.

0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:37.359
<v Speaker 3>Fortunately for our listeners only a three day week, five days.

0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:38.240
<v Speaker 3>I would drive them.

0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 2>If they could only see us here every time, you know,

0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 2>we do it. It's just but they could really stand

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 2>the complete more passes. They really need to go to

0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 2>complete more if if they if they just to your point,

0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 2>if it's just an NFL average passing game, if you

0:28:56.800 --> 0:28:58.760
<v Speaker 2>can strive to get average, they would be a really

0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:01.120
<v Speaker 2>hard team, especially run the ball the way that they

0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:02.960
<v Speaker 2>are exactly. I mean, if everything else is in place,

0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, you'll have some injuries, but you also get

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 2>Minka back, and if all that stuff says reasonably even

0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:12.280
<v Speaker 2>and Boz still makes kicks, the defense is dangerous. Yeah,

0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 2>the running game is dangerous. Yeah, rookies keep getting better.

0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:17.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if you could have an average passing game, you

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 3>would be a good team. Yeah, top ten type of team.

0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:24.000
<v Speaker 2>So, I mean that's what I think Mike Tomlin was

0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 2>looking at here, like we just need to find a way.

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:28.760
<v Speaker 3>To Yeah, we need to complete more passes.

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 2>So you know, if they can do that, like even

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:40.360
<v Speaker 2>like people talk about Miami like there's something like like, yeah,

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:43.160
<v Speaker 2>they're good. They just scored twenty one points again at

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 2>home against the Raiders.

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:46.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, people are starting to figure out the offense. And

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 3>they are a finesse team, you know, like they're not

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 3>going to bully you and just run the ball down

0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:54.840
<v Speaker 3>your throat over and over and over. They will Schematically, you.

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 2>Can do that to them. Yeah, yeah, you can bully

0:29:57.320 --> 0:29:59.560
<v Speaker 2>them a little bit offensively and keep them off the field.

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:02.000
<v Speaker 3>I know they haven't but I think on their best

0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:04.000
<v Speaker 3>day they could beat anyone. But they haven't come.

0:30:04.240 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 2>They haven't done it. They haven't done.

0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:08.640
<v Speaker 3>It at all. I mean that's worrisome for sure.

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 2>You know, when I looked at they're they're they're trumpeting

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 2>beating the Raiders as being a big win.

0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:21.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't think the Raiders are good. Yeah out there

0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:24.560
<v Speaker 3>you like to me, the Niners are scary, right, you

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 3>know the Niners could.

0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:28.080
<v Speaker 2>Be Well, that's the thing, all the all the scary teams.

0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 3>I think Dallas can be scary. I think Phillies still

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:35.120
<v Speaker 3>figuring things out. But then one loss Kansas City.

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:36.640
<v Speaker 2>And Dallas, to me though, is still kind of in

0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 2>the same boat as Miami. They haven't beaten anybody.

0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:41.600
<v Speaker 3>They beat bad teams badly, and they don't beat the

0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 3>good ones.

0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:44.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I look at this now. You know, before

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 2>beating the big win against the five and five Raiders,

0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Miami's signature win was over the.

0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 3>Chargers, which looked better then than now.

0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't look good now. Yeah, you know, if you

0:30:57.560 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 2>look at who they when they've lost games or when

0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:05.000
<v Speaker 2>they've played teams you know with the winning records. Lost

0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:09.400
<v Speaker 2>forty eight twenty to Buffalo, they lost thirty one seventeen

0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 2>to Philadelphia. They lost twenty one to fourteen to Kansas City.

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:14.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, they eked out. It was a twenty to

0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:17.800
<v Speaker 2>thirteen win over the Raiders. That offense. Everybody looked at

0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:20.360
<v Speaker 2>that seventy point point game at Ysome. Yeah, you know,

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:22.960
<v Speaker 2>coming off of the you know, Week one, they'd scored

0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:25.800
<v Speaker 2>thirty six against the Chargers. We now know the Chargers defense.

0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:29.520
<v Speaker 2>That was the worst matchup in the world for the Chargers.

0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, we just talked about that last night.

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 2>They can't they can't cover anybody.

0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:35.600
<v Speaker 3>No, it's horrible. And plus if you lose some of

0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:38.360
<v Speaker 3>your advantages with the Miami heat and things like that

0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:41.560
<v Speaker 3>early in the season, and your speed diminishes as the

0:31:41.600 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 3>season goes on, just from wear and tear. Yeah, I mean,

0:31:45.640 --> 0:31:48.280
<v Speaker 3>and I do think because they're such a unique offense,

0:31:48.320 --> 0:31:51.600
<v Speaker 3>people have figured it out a little. I just don't.

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:54.080
<v Speaker 3>I have respect for the Dolphins. I think they have

0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 3>done some really good things. I like their head coach,

0:31:57.280 --> 0:31:59.560
<v Speaker 3>but I'd be shocked if they go on a playoff run.

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 3>You got to beat these teams they've talked about.

0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Well. The other thing is, I know when the Steelers

0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:06.120
<v Speaker 2>went down there last year and when of Kenny Pickt's

0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 2>first starts, just sixteen to ten game, Yeah, and the

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Steelers were throwing into the end zone twice in the

0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:14.440
<v Speaker 2>last four minutes of that game with an opportunity to

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:14.720
<v Speaker 2>win it.

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was one that slipped away. I mean, there

0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 3>was two or three of those AFC games last year

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:20.840
<v Speaker 3>where you looked at and like, easily could have won,

0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 3>should have won at least one of them.

0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 2>And so while I respect Miami, yeah, yeah, they don't,

0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:27.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm not. I'm not. If I'm the Steelers, I'm not

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 2>afraid of going into Miami and playing them again.

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:31.200
<v Speaker 3>No, neither me neither.

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:34.560
<v Speaker 2>So so that to me is the entire AFC playoff field. Yeah,

0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:35.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to go to Kansas City.

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:38.320
<v Speaker 3>Kansas City is still frightening because of what they've done

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 3>in the past, and.

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:41.360
<v Speaker 2>That place is tough to play. But I don't. If

0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm the Steelers, I don't fear going to Baltimore. I

0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:44.520
<v Speaker 2>do that twice a year.

0:32:44.680 --> 0:32:48.320
<v Speaker 3>No, and I think Baltimore might be the best team

0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:51.720
<v Speaker 3>in the AFC. I mean maybe, but they seem to

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:53.280
<v Speaker 3>slip up more than they should too.

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:54.960
<v Speaker 2>They can't hold leads.

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean that's a fatal flaw for them right now.

0:32:57.280 --> 0:32:58.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know that's a problem.

0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:00.960
<v Speaker 3>And if we were on Baltimore would be like, hold

0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:03.520
<v Speaker 3>more leads, complete more passes.

0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, it might be complete more passes. That's going to

0:33:05.760 --> 0:33:09.320
<v Speaker 2>be a problem for them. Now without Andrews, that's Lamars

0:33:09.320 --> 0:33:09.640
<v Speaker 2>will be.

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:13.160
<v Speaker 3>That's a big, big loss. Likely we'll do some good things.

0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 2>But he's not. Yeah, he's not Andrews.

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:16.840
<v Speaker 3>And he can't do the exact same stuff with them.

0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 2>So the AFC playoff race right now, to me, just

0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:23.760
<v Speaker 2>get in. Oh yeah, I agree, Just get in and

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:25.720
<v Speaker 2>and anything could happen. This is this is going to

0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:30.400
<v Speaker 2>be a one through seven. You know, even assuming the

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:32.320
<v Speaker 2>Browns make it. The Browns might be the only team

0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 2>that I would really be shocked if they made if

0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:38.720
<v Speaker 2>if we said last week, this is the seven teams

0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:40.920
<v Speaker 2>that are in there right now. Yeah, we ago a

0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 2>week ago, which includes the division leaders and then Cleveland,

0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:47.040
<v Speaker 2>Houston and Pittsburgh. We thought that was going to be

0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 2>the playoff field. Any of those teams could make a

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:53.080
<v Speaker 2>run to the super Bowl except maybe Cleveland because of

0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:55.360
<v Speaker 2>the quarterback situation. They could win a game.

0:33:55.720 --> 0:33:58.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, they could be really hard for to play.

0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:01.920
<v Speaker 2>But as we noted yesterday day, their defense isn't as

0:34:01.920 --> 0:34:04.040
<v Speaker 2>good on the road as at home. They would need

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:04.840
<v Speaker 2>to win the division.

0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 3>I think we haven't talked much about the upcoming schedule,

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:09.240
<v Speaker 3>but they're a two and a half to three point

0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:11.440
<v Speaker 3>dog in Denver this week. Yeah, you know, like it

0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:13.440
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't shock me if they lose to Denver, who's playing

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:18.360
<v Speaker 3>pretty well. Yeah, you know, so, I have great respect

0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:21.160
<v Speaker 3>for where Cleveland's at, especially defensively, and they deserve to

0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 3>win that game. But that you sign Joe Flacco, Yeah.

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Kind of tell you. It kind of tells you what

0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:31.960
<v Speaker 2>they think of the the young quarterback.

0:34:32.040 --> 0:34:34.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. The offense is told together with its m a

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:36.920
<v Speaker 3>guvert up with duct tape, and you know, so that

0:34:36.960 --> 0:34:41.320
<v Speaker 3>worries me. But they could beat any team given, no question.

0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:43.560
<v Speaker 2>Can they Can they string together three wins to get

0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:44.880
<v Speaker 2>to the super Bowl? Probably not?

0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:48.240
<v Speaker 3>Probably not. I don't think they can. But interesting stuff.

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:51.279
<v Speaker 3>I think Jacksonville and Houston are interesting too. I think

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:54.240
<v Speaker 3>those organizations are moving the right direction.

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:56.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, they got a huge game against each other this week.

0:34:56.680 --> 0:34:59.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they played for the division lead this week. I

0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:01.800
<v Speaker 3>think both could get in. I mean if the Steelers

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:03.120
<v Speaker 3>don't complete more passes.

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think right now as things stand right now,

0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:07.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't think and I know that both would be in.

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:10.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, yeah, they are the Bills.

0:35:10.600 --> 0:35:12.920
<v Speaker 2>And I would consider both of those two teams that

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:16.360
<v Speaker 2>if they got hot, yeah, could make a run at it.

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:19.480
<v Speaker 3>Could. I don't love the youth, you know, of the

0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:21.360
<v Speaker 3>quarterback and stuff. I think this is the year you

0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:23.399
<v Speaker 3>learn how to win for them and then next year

0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:26.719
<v Speaker 3>you pick them to maybe go you know, both those teams,

0:35:27.000 --> 0:35:29.920
<v Speaker 3>but they are trending the right direction. I think Houston

0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:32.080
<v Speaker 3>might be coach of the Year candidate, you know. And

0:35:32.960 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 3>people that were worried about Lawrence I thought were crazy.

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean, and he came out looked great this past week.

0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 3>So those teams are trending the right direction.

0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 2>As Trevor Lawrence is one and four in his career

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:44.319
<v Speaker 2>against Houston, is he really one in four? Houston hasn't

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:48.840
<v Speaker 2>been good. Yeah, in those years time they might that

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 2>division might be turning into a rock paper scissors.

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:54.040
<v Speaker 3>Then, Yeah, I don't think Tennantse's.

0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:56.759
<v Speaker 2>Indianapolis can't win in Jacksonville no matter what their record is.

0:35:56.760 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 2>When I was thinking of the Titans always beat the Colts.

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 3>Titans the Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of that going on.

0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:04.840
<v Speaker 3>And there's a lot of new quarterbacks, so maybe that's changing,

0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:06.000
<v Speaker 3>or maybe it's gona set and sowne.

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:08.640
<v Speaker 2>But I just I mean, for what we thought the

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:11.080
<v Speaker 2>AFC playoff picture was going to look like when the

0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:13.879
<v Speaker 2>season began, now not so much.

0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:14.840
<v Speaker 3>Chargers are shot.

0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Chargers are out of it.

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:18.120
<v Speaker 3>Bengals are out of it. Yeah, right, and that's that's

0:36:18.120 --> 0:36:21.320
<v Speaker 3>the surprising stuff. Bengal Bills stuff is really surprising. Chargers

0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:23.960
<v Speaker 3>is rather surprising. Yeah, it could be out of it

0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:25.239
<v Speaker 3>in November twenty.

0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:28.120
<v Speaker 2>First, Yeah, that's the next I mean to me, if

0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 2>if Baltimore goes out there this week and rolls them,

0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:33.600
<v Speaker 2>there could be there could be a coaching changing.

0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:37.160
<v Speaker 3>We had a good conversation on the podcast about I

0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:40.840
<v Speaker 3>brought up three teams that might take the raider route

0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:46.000
<v Speaker 3>and promote somebody that's rather qualified from within to see

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:48.080
<v Speaker 3>if you want to keep them. Yeah, and I think

0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:52.920
<v Speaker 3>McCown with the Panthers is a maybe. I think the

0:36:53.080 --> 0:36:56.759
<v Speaker 3>enemy with Washington could absolutely happen, and their schedule going

0:36:56.760 --> 0:36:59.200
<v Speaker 3>forward is awful, and I think the Chargers are the

0:36:59.239 --> 0:37:02.000
<v Speaker 3>most likely. I don't love Kellen Moore, but he gets

0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:02.880
<v Speaker 3>his name is thrown.

0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:05.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm not good. I'm a good defensive on that thing.

0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:08.719
<v Speaker 3>In terms of next year's higher I think would. But

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:13.000
<v Speaker 3>at least my thought was, if you're an owner and

0:37:13.600 --> 0:37:16.399
<v Speaker 3>sitting here on November twenty first, deep down you're like,

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:18.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to fire this guy, you know, I mean,

0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 3>there's a ninety eight percent chance that he doesn't make

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:25.000
<v Speaker 3>it past Black Monday. Why not at least see if

0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:25.560
<v Speaker 3>the enemy.

0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:29.640
<v Speaker 2>Here's the problem with those kinds of things, And this

0:37:29.680 --> 0:37:33.120
<v Speaker 2>is this is why Dan Rooney always never one of

0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:35.839
<v Speaker 2>the He was completely against firing somebody in the middle

0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:38.520
<v Speaker 2>of a season, because if you bring in an interim guy,

0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:41.799
<v Speaker 2>what if the interim guy does well, now there's going

0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:44.120
<v Speaker 2>to be pressure on you to you may you may

0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:45.759
<v Speaker 2>know he's not the guy you didn't think he was

0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:49.560
<v Speaker 2>the guy. The team catches fire a little bit because,

0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 2>for example, as we just talked about, now all of

0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:53.920
<v Speaker 2>a sudden, your schedule he's is up in your playings.

0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:56.359
<v Speaker 2>So now there's going to be some pressure to keep

0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 2>that guy as the coordinator or the head coach or

0:37:58.560 --> 0:37:59.239
<v Speaker 2>whatever it may be.

0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:01.879
<v Speaker 3>Right, That's why I don't think the Bears do it,

0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:05.200
<v Speaker 3>you know, but those teams, those guys at least have

0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:07.480
<v Speaker 3>interviewed for head jobs before, you know. That's why I

0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:10.480
<v Speaker 3>think if I can learn more about the enemy or whomever,

0:38:11.320 --> 0:38:13.759
<v Speaker 3>it's better than having less data on the guy. But

0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:15.919
<v Speaker 3>like I was part of one in Cleveland when Butch

0:38:15.960 --> 0:38:18.799
<v Speaker 3>got high who got fired? None of us thought that

0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:22.040
<v Speaker 3>anyone in the staff was coming back every like Another

0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:24.480
<v Speaker 3>good recent example is when Gruden got let go and

0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:29.160
<v Speaker 3>they put in Versacia Rich and they had spark in life.

0:38:29.200 --> 0:38:31.120
<v Speaker 3>But he's a lifetime Special Teams.

0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:33.040
<v Speaker 2>And that's kind of what happens sometimes, you know that

0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:36.320
<v Speaker 2>you catch a little well, it's it's a change. The

0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Raiders are good for that, and and so you go,

0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:41.759
<v Speaker 2>you win a few games, and then there's pressure to

0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:42.840
<v Speaker 2>keep that guy.

0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:45.359
<v Speaker 3>Even though deep down you think he's a special Teams code.

0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:47.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, so, which I think it was with

0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:51.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah anyway, so yeah, I think that you know, the

0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:55.360
<v Speaker 2>AFC playoff race is open. Win this game this week.

0:38:55.200 --> 0:38:57.600
<v Speaker 3>By the one you got a complete more pass.

0:38:57.360 --> 0:39:00.759
<v Speaker 2>Completely more passes win this one. Your next you know,

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:02.200
<v Speaker 2>you don't play you don't play a team with a

0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:05.759
<v Speaker 2>winning record. For the next five games, you have five

0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:07.600
<v Speaker 2>games in a row against teams with losing records.

0:39:08.640 --> 0:39:10.560
<v Speaker 3>I noticed the Bengals of the opposite everyone on their

0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:12.960
<v Speaker 3>schedule is five hundred and above. Yeah.

0:39:15.360 --> 0:39:18.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so when you know, win four or five of

0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:20.600
<v Speaker 2>these games, get on a little bit of a role

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:22.359
<v Speaker 2>here going. You know, if you can win at least

0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:25.520
<v Speaker 2>four of them, now you're sitting at ten wins. You

0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:28.040
<v Speaker 2>go in going into those games against Seattle in Baltimore,

0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:30.800
<v Speaker 2>and you're probably going to be in the playoffs.

0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:32.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you can get to ten before those two games

0:39:32.800 --> 0:39:33.520
<v Speaker 3>you're probably in.

0:39:33.560 --> 0:39:36.360
<v Speaker 2>You're in. So you go win this one, complete more passes,

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:39.839
<v Speaker 2>win these games, get yourself into the tournament, and see

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:40.399
<v Speaker 2>where it goes.

0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:44.000
<v Speaker 3>And I hate to say it this way, because if

0:39:44.040 --> 0:39:47.520
<v Speaker 3>the Steelers passing game on Sunday is as bad as

0:39:47.560 --> 0:39:50.840
<v Speaker 3>it was last Sunday, they could still beat the Bengals.

0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:53.600
<v Speaker 2>They could. I mean, they could run for two hundred

0:39:53.600 --> 0:39:57.480
<v Speaker 2>and fifty yards in this game and yeah, completely strangle

0:39:57.920 --> 0:40:00.480
<v Speaker 2>like South Cincinnati scoring exactly.

0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:02.239
<v Speaker 3>They don't turn the ball away in that game. If

0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:05.319
<v Speaker 3>the passing game is just as bad. Yeah, I mean that.

0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:07.759
<v Speaker 2>Would be tough, but that would be discouraging.

0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:08.960
<v Speaker 3>That would be very discouraging.

0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:12.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we're gonna get to a break. He is

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the

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<v Speaker 2>Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We will be back

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<v Speaker 2>with more right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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<v Speaker 1>on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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<v Speaker 1>and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolly. He is the Matt Williamson

0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:44.040
<v Speaker 2>and Matt As you can imagine, a lot of the

0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:47.479
<v Speaker 2>questions today to Mike Tomlin at his news conference dealt

0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:52.000
<v Speaker 2>with the change at offensive coordinator. But Mike Tomlin also

0:40:52.080 --> 0:40:58.120
<v Speaker 2>dropping a little news Minka Fitzpatrick looks like there's a

0:40:58.640 --> 0:41:00.840
<v Speaker 2>chance that he could definitely play this week. Same with

0:41:00.920 --> 0:41:02.400
<v Speaker 2>montrevious Adams.

0:41:02.000 --> 0:41:05.680
<v Speaker 3>Good good, good good. I think Adams. They've made up

0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:07.760
<v Speaker 3>for the loss of Adams very very well.

0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:09.640
<v Speaker 2>It'd be nice to have another guy to put in

0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:10.160
<v Speaker 2>the mix, though.

0:41:10.200 --> 0:41:13.040
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, I really liked how he was playing pre injury.

0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:16.120
<v Speaker 3>I thought louder Milk had a really good game, maybe

0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:18.960
<v Speaker 3>his best game as a Steeler, and I keep talking

0:41:19.000 --> 0:41:22.560
<v Speaker 3>about him Watts. I think Watts has been a better

0:41:22.680 --> 0:41:23.839
<v Speaker 3>version of Warmley.

0:41:23.760 --> 0:41:26.200
<v Speaker 2>This He might be one of the it's one of

0:41:26.200 --> 0:41:30.719
<v Speaker 2>the better defensive line groupings that they've had.

0:41:30.800 --> 0:41:33.040
<v Speaker 3>I agree, I agree, And I think it's nice that

0:41:33.080 --> 0:41:35.680
<v Speaker 3>you're not asking Cam and Ogunjobi to play ninety five

0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:37.880
<v Speaker 3>percent of snaps and bent and you just want to

0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:39.399
<v Speaker 3>keep getting him out there more and more and more.

0:41:39.440 --> 0:41:40.439
<v Speaker 2>That's going to be a star.

0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:42.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think so too. And I don't know if

0:41:42.719 --> 0:41:44.719
<v Speaker 3>they're down on him, but Leal's kind of been the

0:41:44.760 --> 0:41:47.080
<v Speaker 3>forgotten guy. He's like a four or five snap of dude,

0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:49.399
<v Speaker 3>a game guy now, and I think he's just kind

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:50.040
<v Speaker 3>of getting.

0:41:52.200 --> 0:41:53.440
<v Speaker 2>Others are playing bad.

0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:55.360
<v Speaker 3>I say, I don't think he's bad, it's just the

0:41:55.400 --> 0:41:58.960
<v Speaker 3>others are stepping up. Yeah, more trustworthy at the moment.

0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:01.359
<v Speaker 2>You know, So that that's uh, you know, and then

0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:04.360
<v Speaker 2>you get making Fitzpatrick back. You know, they signed Trenton

0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:05.760
<v Speaker 2>Thompson to their active roster.

0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:08.040
<v Speaker 3>That was about to say, what if Trenton Thompson's a

0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:10.919
<v Speaker 3>good third safety? Yeah, like that'd be great.

0:42:11.200 --> 0:42:13.760
<v Speaker 2>Great, Yeah again, somebody got for free.

0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 3>Any thoughts on Neil He's on I R Oh, they

0:42:17.680 --> 0:42:19.360
<v Speaker 3>did put him on IR Yeah, so that's gonna be

0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:20.400
<v Speaker 3>a while, Okay, gotcha.

0:42:21.040 --> 0:42:23.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I mean they need something there.

0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:27.440
<v Speaker 3>You know, Killerbrew played eighteen snaps or so, yeah, he

0:42:27.440 --> 0:42:29.000
<v Speaker 3>should be playing eighteen snap special.

0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:30.880
<v Speaker 2>You definitely need to get make a Fitzpatrick back. They

0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:33.960
<v Speaker 2>also signed Eric Rowe put him on their practice squad

0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:38.520
<v Speaker 2>this week. Jack Miles, jack backer. They met another practice

0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:41.799
<v Speaker 2>squad signing today of a of another defensive back, which

0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:47.120
<v Speaker 2>kind of yeah, they're they're searching for something there, understandable,

0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:50.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, just this one's just kind of another body,

0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:57.160
<v Speaker 2>but you know, just you need some defensive back. Henry

0:42:57.200 --> 0:42:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Black was signed to their practice squad. They released linebacker

0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Tyler Murray. He tells me that they're they're now happy

0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:04.560
<v Speaker 2>with what they have an inside linebacker.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I don't know if you caught this, but I

0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 3>bet most of our audience didn't. The only linebackers that

0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:12.279
<v Speaker 3>played in the game were Roberts Are every snap and

0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:15.640
<v Speaker 3>Walker for like three quarters of the snaphing like that.

0:43:16.280 --> 0:43:19.000
<v Speaker 3>Robinson didn't play a stap on defense. Yeah, so I

0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:20.480
<v Speaker 3>think that tells you a lot of what they think

0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:23.279
<v Speaker 3>of him. But maybe Jack will be your third guy.

0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:25.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, he would have to be I mean, he has

0:43:25.320 --> 0:43:29.200
<v Speaker 2>to be activated from that. And Robinson still plays special teams.

0:43:29.239 --> 0:43:31.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, so you know he seems to be pretty

0:43:32.000 --> 0:43:33.240
<v Speaker 3>much a fixture on special teams.

0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:35.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this year, So there's that.

0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:41.040
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it's it's they.

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<v Speaker 2>Certainly you have to keep looking there and you can.

0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:45.160
<v Speaker 2>And one of the big moves in the league today

0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:48.839
<v Speaker 2>was Shaq Leonard being released by the Indianapolis Colts. And

0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:52.200
<v Speaker 2>you texted me about it, and uh, I said, I'd

0:43:52.239 --> 0:43:54.120
<v Speaker 2>kick the tires on it, and I started looking a

0:43:54.160 --> 0:43:56.440
<v Speaker 2>little more into it. A he's making you're not going

0:43:56.520 --> 0:43:58.600
<v Speaker 2>to claim him on waivers because he's making a ton of.

0:43:58.640 --> 0:44:01.960
<v Speaker 3>Money, and assume that's the biggest reason they let him go,

0:44:02.040 --> 0:44:03.120
<v Speaker 3>you know, so to pay the rest of this.

0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:06.520
<v Speaker 2>I think it's fully guaranteed. They're still not fully guaranteed.

0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:08.080
<v Speaker 2>If there's a lot of guaranteed money there.

0:44:08.120 --> 0:44:10.759
<v Speaker 3>Because he's like the richest linebacker contract out there.

0:44:10.840 --> 0:44:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe they're hoping somebody claims him because it's not

0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:17.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, you're not paying the signing bonuses and that

0:44:17.280 --> 0:44:19.760
<v Speaker 2>those kind of things. Uh, but I can't see that happening.

0:44:20.120 --> 0:44:21.719
<v Speaker 2>So you wait for him to clear waivers. You could

0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:23.600
<v Speaker 2>get him on the cheap, But I just don't know

0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:24.640
<v Speaker 2>what he has left now to.

0:44:24.680 --> 0:44:26.919
<v Speaker 3>Say he had a major injury. Was it a neck

0:44:27.000 --> 0:44:27.560
<v Speaker 3>or a back?

0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:29.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he had He's had a couple of back issues.

0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:32.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and he was really really good before that. Why

0:44:32.239 --> 0:44:34.480
<v Speaker 3>why he signed this monster deal because he deserved it.

0:44:34.520 --> 0:44:36.800
<v Speaker 3>He was a leader of the defense, flies around the field.

0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:38.919
<v Speaker 3>But he's had a hard time staying on the field

0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:40.880
<v Speaker 3>for them this year, not because of injury, because of

0:44:41.200 --> 0:44:42.279
<v Speaker 3>you know, playing time.

0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:44.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's not as good as at least they don't

0:44:44.239 --> 0:44:45.319
<v Speaker 2>feel he's as good as the other guys.

0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:45.920
<v Speaker 3>Now he's not.

0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:48.600
<v Speaker 2>That being said, there was a coaching change there, true,

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:51.680
<v Speaker 2>so maybe he just didn't fit into what that coaching

0:44:51.719 --> 0:44:53.000
<v Speaker 2>staff wants to do defense.

0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:55.520
<v Speaker 3>Like possibly I haven't dug in their scheme enough, but

0:44:55.560 --> 0:44:58.440
<v Speaker 3>maybe that's not a fit for them. I do. I

0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:00.800
<v Speaker 3>do know they structure themselves like the Eagles, and the

0:45:00.840 --> 0:45:02.600
<v Speaker 3>Eagles don't put line in the backer money. They don't

0:45:02.600 --> 0:45:05.000
<v Speaker 3>care about linebackers. Yeah, it's low on the list for sure,

0:45:05.440 --> 0:45:08.160
<v Speaker 3>So who knows. I mean, I would be interested if

0:45:08.160 --> 0:45:10.279
<v Speaker 3>he cleared waivers and you could bring him in here

0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:12.760
<v Speaker 3>and kick the tires on him and really good leader,

0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:14.799
<v Speaker 3>great head for the game, all that stuff still there.

0:45:14.840 --> 0:45:16.719
<v Speaker 3>But I don't think he is what he used to be.

0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:20.200
<v Speaker 3>But maybe none of us are. Yeah, maybe it would

0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:20.680
<v Speaker 3>be next year.

0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we just all know. He's still twenty eight years old.

0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:27.160
<v Speaker 2>You know, came out in that same draft as making Fitzpatrick.

0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:31.640
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I mean I would, I would be interested

0:45:31.640 --> 0:45:33.640
<v Speaker 2>in it at the right price. I'm certainly not interested

0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:35.839
<v Speaker 2>in doing that and claiming him and having to pay

0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:38.719
<v Speaker 2>him another six I think six million dollars rest this year.

0:45:38.800 --> 0:45:41.520
<v Speaker 3>No, his tape is underwhelming this year. Look, he's coming

0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:43.440
<v Speaker 3>back from injury, and who knows if he ever will

0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:43.680
<v Speaker 3>be back.

0:45:43.760 --> 0:45:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if nobody claims him and

0:45:46.160 --> 0:45:48.319
<v Speaker 2>maybe he winds up in Buffalo or somewhere like that.

0:45:48.400 --> 0:45:49.480
<v Speaker 3>But could could be.

0:45:49.640 --> 0:45:52.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're they're really hurting at linebacker, even more

0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:53.400
<v Speaker 2>so than the Steelers.

0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:55.200
<v Speaker 3>There's plenty of teams out there that would I think

0:45:55.239 --> 0:45:58.239
<v Speaker 3>would be interested at the situation we laid out. Yeah,

0:45:58.239 --> 0:46:00.280
<v Speaker 3>but in terms of inheriting the contract.

0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:02.440
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not I'm not interested in getting into a

0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:05.080
<v Speaker 2>bidding war for him either. Now, one thing that might

0:46:05.160 --> 0:46:09.520
<v Speaker 2>interest Shack Leonard for coming here. He's not Shack instead

0:46:09.560 --> 0:46:11.959
<v Speaker 2>of Darius used. That's who we're talking about, is Darius Leonard.

0:46:12.000 --> 0:46:15.600
<v Speaker 2>He now goes by Shack Colts by the way, folks, Yeah,

0:46:15.680 --> 0:46:17.360
<v Speaker 2>the Steelers played the Colts in a few weeks.

0:46:17.520 --> 0:46:19.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure you wouldn't mind that. Yeah, it'd be good

0:46:19.640 --> 0:46:22.399
<v Speaker 3>for some intel as well, probably, But super smart guy.

0:46:22.600 --> 0:46:26.839
<v Speaker 3>You know, I loved the player before this season. Yeah,

0:46:26.520 --> 0:46:29.960
<v Speaker 3>you so rarely does that kind of thing happen, you know,

0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:30.960
<v Speaker 3>just a pretty much.

0:46:31.040 --> 0:46:33.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean really, a couple of years ago, when you

0:46:33.719 --> 0:46:37.040
<v Speaker 2>know we're talking about t J. Watt winning Defensive Player

0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:38.520
<v Speaker 2>of the Year, Shack Leonard was one of the guys

0:46:38.520 --> 0:46:40.920
<v Speaker 2>who was in the running that year. He was in contention.

0:46:41.040 --> 0:46:43.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's that type of dude. So interesting do you

0:46:43.880 --> 0:46:45.879
<v Speaker 3>think Jack gets in the mix?

0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:48.399
<v Speaker 2>Depends on what kind of shapey, I don't. I don't

0:46:48.400 --> 0:46:49.640
<v Speaker 2>know what kind of I haven't seen him. I haven't

0:46:49.680 --> 0:46:51.400
<v Speaker 2>laid eyes on him yet, so I have no idea.

0:46:52.719 --> 0:46:54.839
<v Speaker 2>You know, we'll see him tomorrow for the first time

0:46:54.880 --> 0:46:57.719
<v Speaker 2>and get it. You know, what's he been doing? And

0:46:58.520 --> 0:47:00.560
<v Speaker 2>he was talking about going to plumber school for so.

0:47:00.920 --> 0:47:05.000
<v Speaker 3>Was Yeah, didn't it didn't see that one coming.

0:47:05.080 --> 0:47:05.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:47:05.840 --> 0:47:07.759
<v Speaker 3>I don't know that he's the answer and all you

0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:10.440
<v Speaker 3>know to your linebacker problems either, but he'd fit in

0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:11.680
<v Speaker 3>quickly mentally.

0:47:11.960 --> 0:47:15.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the defense hasn't changed. He knows that there's

0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:15.960
<v Speaker 2>no problem with that.

0:47:17.080 --> 0:47:19.080
<v Speaker 3>Physically, he could still do it. I'd be interested.

0:47:19.200 --> 0:47:21.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just don't know that you know how that

0:47:21.440 --> 0:47:25.400
<v Speaker 2>work workd You know, I kind of like what Michael

0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:28.440
<v Speaker 2>Walker brings to you in terms of a little bit

0:47:28.480 --> 0:47:29.080
<v Speaker 2>more rangy.

0:47:29.440 --> 0:47:32.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, he is, he is, and I didn't think

0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:34.600
<v Speaker 3>he played great. But it's also his first real game

0:47:34.640 --> 0:47:38.600
<v Speaker 3>back too, you know, so we'll see. But you're also thin, Yeah,

0:47:38.640 --> 0:47:42.239
<v Speaker 3>you're very thin there. What if Roberts you know, yeah,

0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:44.920
<v Speaker 3>God forbid that happen. He was, He was all over

0:47:45.000 --> 0:47:45.640
<v Speaker 3>the field.

0:47:46.120 --> 0:47:49.120
<v Speaker 2>And it just shows it shows you how much of

0:47:49.160 --> 0:47:50.920
<v Speaker 2>that position is above the neck.

0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:52.800
<v Speaker 3>So much, so much, and when you can have both

0:47:53.000 --> 0:47:56.240
<v Speaker 3>you turn into roque or war or whatever, but above

0:47:56.239 --> 0:47:57.480
<v Speaker 3>the neck goes a long way.

0:47:57.520 --> 0:48:00.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean he's just diagnosing things and tackling those

0:48:00.880 --> 0:48:02.640
<v Speaker 2>backs in the flat on the path like he just

0:48:02.760 --> 0:48:06.439
<v Speaker 2>he would just you know, made play after playing that game.

0:48:06.520 --> 0:48:10.240
<v Speaker 3>He's physical and aggressive and he handled every snap.

0:48:10.320 --> 0:48:13.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, so played well for the Steelers this year.

0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:16.359
<v Speaker 2>He just can't afford to lose him at this point

0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:18.440
<v Speaker 2>with some of the other losses that you've had. He

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<v Speaker 2>is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lally. You're listening to

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