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Speaker 1: Hey everybody.

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Speaker 2: It is Monday, July fifteenth, twent seed twenty four. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. I didn't bother to

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Speaker 2: write an interro for today show. It's me and your

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Speaker 2: random g Marcus Grant joined by Michael f Florio and

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Speaker 2: LaQuan Jones.

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Speaker 1: And Okay, I just want to I want to stalk here.

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Speaker 1: I just want to say, like, I'm sorry, Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: let's go. We're I know, I'm being genuine, I'm being sincere.

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Speaker 2: Like I know we've given you a hard time on

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Speaker 2: this show and generally in the office about being an

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Speaker 2: England football supporter and uh and that sort of thing, but.

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Speaker 1: Like you guys got close to it, like it's it's hard.

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Speaker 2: It is legitimately a hard thing to watch your team

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Speaker 2: lose in a championship game. So like, yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: it's all funny games. We're gonna, you know, give you

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Speaker 2: hell in the text chat like it's just gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: But like I legitimately feel I'm sorry for you. It

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Speaker 1: was a tough weekend for you, for sure.

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Speaker 3: It's okay, It's okay. Like a lot of my friends

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Speaker 3: three you know, checking on on me, and I had

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Speaker 3: some like team comps as well, and then I saw

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Speaker 3: one yesterday It was like England's basically the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 3: They can't get what.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I heard some really great.

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Speaker 3: Comps to teams and I was like, forty nine ers,

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Speaker 3: that's interesting.

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Speaker 2: I'll take that. You feel punch I got for you

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Speaker 2: because the one I saw, the one I saw was

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Speaker 2: that the England is like the Knicks of international soccer, right, so.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Knicks have just see your mind in their

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Speaker 4: own business.

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Speaker 1: Forty nine ers. Look, we got the New York Jets.

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Speaker 3: No shout out to Jack and the recharge department. He

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Speaker 3: was like, they're basically the New York Jets, And I'm like,

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Speaker 3: this is somewhat so the Jets don't even sniff a championship.

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Speaker 1: The Jets don't.

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Speaker 3: Get a little bit championships were in the sixties. That

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Speaker 3: was his point.

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, oh, yeah, right, I get all right,

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Speaker 1: there's so.

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Speaker 3: Many good comps.

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Speaker 4: How do you invent the sport and not win it

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Speaker 4: since the sixties.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Ask the Canadians and hockey right like, they're struggling there,

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Speaker 2: they're down bad.

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Speaker 1: In the NHL.

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Speaker 4: America started basketball and right now it looks like we're

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Speaker 4: we're sitting pretty for gold in there. So there you go.

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Speaker 2: I mean, America lost in the gold medal. We're like,

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Speaker 2: you know what, we're sending our best Now We're like,

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Speaker 2: screw it, we're done.

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Speaker 1: We're done with the college guys out.

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Speaker 2: Let's send Let's send the greatest collection of basketball talent

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Speaker 2: of all time and show people what what's up with that? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: all right, Well, it's good that all all all of

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Speaker 2: our teams caught strays this weekend.

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Speaker 1: So that's cool, beautiful as.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's got a stray. Lqr's a direct shot.

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Speaker 3: Uh, everybody else to feel it.

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Speaker 2: And and everybody else, yeah sort of got you know,

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Speaker 2: got an elbow in the side because of it.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: We are starting our division previews. We're gonna go through

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Speaker 2: each of the eight divisions over our next few shows

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Speaker 2: and kind of break down the teams what we expect

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Speaker 2: for them fantasy wise. Today is the a f C West.

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Speaker 2: The figure we start here because it is the division

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Speaker 2: Again't City Chiefs, so it felt like a good place

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Speaker 2: to start. In the meantime, though, let's start with a

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Speaker 2: couple of I guess news and rumors is sort of

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Speaker 2: the way we're describing because not actually news, it's sort

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Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll start with James Connor.

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Speaker 2: And we talked about James Connor on the show last

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Speaker 2: week because the reports were he was still going to

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Speaker 2: is the floor and not the ceiling. This is a

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Speaker 2: So I will ask both of you, started with you, Floria,

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Speaker 4: I think over a thousand scrimmageyards feels pretty safe. He's

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Speaker 4: done that in three straight years. The thing with Connor,

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Speaker 2: I mean, Lakwan, this is the guy who's averaged in

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Speaker 2: not bad at all. I mean, that's a solid yards

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Speaker 2: He's never played more than fifteen games in a season,

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Speaker 2: and that was that first year in Arizona. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it just more of the thousand scrimmage yards you're looking at.

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Speaker 3: I think he can get a thousand yards on the ground,

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Speaker 3: And I honestly think we could probably see a full

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Speaker 3: a breather from getting all these bumps and bruises. Like,

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Speaker 3: if we really think about the last three seasons, who

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Speaker 3: was James Connor getting let off the field for? Like

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Speaker 3: who is his backups? Eno, Benjamin Chase Edmonds, Like these

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Speaker 1: Mercado's name place the other one.

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Speaker 3: He had a good two week run. But I feel

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Speaker 3: three seasons. They're openly and publicly saying it's his backfield,

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Speaker 3: it's his guy. But we might see Tray Benton get

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Speaker 3: that James Connor has been super efficient these last two seasons.

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Speaker 3: Coming off of a great season, a couple career highs.

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Speaker 3: He had over thirty rushes of ten plus yards, which

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think he has not hit the age

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Speaker 2: which I was for some reason in my head, I

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Speaker 2: that's not the case. He just turned twenty nine. Coming

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Speaker 2: off a thousand yard season. I think you can get

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Speaker 2: Now the question becomes, you know, in terms of his

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Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty five yards last year. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: now you've got Marvin Harrison. Trey McBride has established himself,

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Speaker 2: heep seeing so much Greg Dortsch love.

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Speaker 3: Yes, hes gonna get me excited. I'm smiling ear to

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Speaker 3: ear right now. Yes, let's go.

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Speaker 1: I mean so much, Greg Dortch love.

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Speaker 2: So maybe maybe what what we are lacking in receiving potential,

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Speaker 2: we are gaining in rushing potential.

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Speaker 4: All of those guys should help create space near the

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Speaker 4: line of scrimmage and running lanes. Because think about last year.

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Speaker 4: You weren't afraid of whoever they were thrown out of.

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Speaker 4: I'm throwing a blank on the quarterback before Kyler Murray

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Speaker 4: and and when Kyler came back, all the receivers Clayton tune,

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Speaker 4: Clayton tune, that's who jo Josh Dobbi. Yeah, yeah, you

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Speaker 4: were loading the box against James Connor against those guys

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Speaker 4: still remain efficient though.

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Speaker 3: That that's the great knock. I mean, that's a great

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Speaker 3: nod to him. So I really feel as though we

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Speaker 3: can get the best version of James Conner this year.

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Speaker 1: Clayton tune. Yeah, man, that's more.

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Speaker 4: Legit ex sleeper Clayton tune.

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Speaker 2: I feel like that was when we got to draft

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Speaker 2: a fantasy hot take silly season.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that's when the news was slow.

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Speaker 2: That's the all right, hurry up and let's just play

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Speaker 1: They're always fun, always always a good time.

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence says he is quote really excited for twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four with quote a dynamic group of past catchers.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Florida.

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Speaker 2: You and I talked about Trevor Lawrence a lot last year,

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Speaker 2: and yeah, I was definitely on the like, I can't

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Speaker 2: draft the Jaguars receiver, but I can draft Trevor Lawrence,

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Speaker 2: and it didn't really work out that way.

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Speaker 1: So this year, I mean they've revamped a few things.

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Speaker 2: You know, Calvin Ridley is out, they draft Brian Thomas,

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Speaker 2: they bring in Gabe Davis. I mean, they have Christian

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Speaker 2: So I mean the quant I'll ask you how many

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Speaker 2: need him to. How many pass catchers can this offense

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Speaker 3: I'll say three. And I say that because if we

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Speaker 3: You had three pass catchers average seven targets per game.

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Speaker 3: That was Evan Ingram, Calvin Ridley, and Christian Kirk. That's

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Speaker 3: a decent target share that I would love to have. Now,

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Speaker 3: the three pass catchers going into this next season maybe

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Speaker 3: lock Christian Kirk there as the one, but then it's

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Speaker 3: But then you look at Gabe Davis and Brian Thomas Junior.

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Speaker 3: But they both can bring they both can stretch the field.

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Speaker 3: So having two options to be able to go downfield

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, and again in Bestball drafts, I've taken

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Speaker 4: I literally tight end record. No tight end has ever

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Speaker 2: The only one without a thousand yards, gets one hundred

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Speaker 4: He had zero until Christian Kirk got hurt, which is insane.

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Speaker 3: That's real nasty. We're like ironing out that we're fading

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Speaker 2: It just feels like, you know what I'm saying, Like

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Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna dive into speaking of falling in,

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Speaker 1: Four teams. As always, I list them in alphabetical order.

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Speaker 2: This is not in terms of projected finish or you know,

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Speaker 4: No, do you think the Broncos are winning the division?

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Speaker 2: Obviously? Yes, I mean mark it down. Sean Payton has

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Speaker 1: For sure.

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Speaker 2: No, So we're gonna start with the Denver Broncos though.

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Speaker 2: Of course last year top Fantasy scores quarterback Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 2: Courtland Sutton was the wide receiver thirty five overall one

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Speaker 2: Right now, first Bronco off the board is Courtland Sutton.

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Speaker 2: But that's it, Like pick ninety ninety point five is

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Speaker 4: I'm going with Boe Nicks here. If Jared Sidam is

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go bo Nicks. Well, I mean, honestly, you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like I think Bo Knicks wins this

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Speaker 2: I mean, unless unless Zach Wilson, anyone. Oh, we're not

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Speaker 4: We're not for the for the entertainment purposes.

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Speaker 3: You can if Hard Knox was on, If Hart Knox

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Speaker 4: That would be the worst Hard Knocks ever made. If

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Speaker 2: Are there any other Broncos wide receivers besides Courtland Sutton

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Speaker 3: On uh Man, Like we talked about Troy Franklin, Like,

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Speaker 4: Tim Patrick is Look, he's a really good story to

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00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,760
Speaker 4: root for, and all the injuries he's been through and stuff,

439
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,159
Speaker 4: I don't think he is gonna be anywhere close to

440
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 4: Fantasy relevant. I think Josh Reynolds will be good enough

441
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,240
Speaker 4: to ruin someone else's chances, Like we'll all get excited

442
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 4: for Marvin Mims or Troy Franklin or something like that,

443
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,480
Speaker 4: and Josh Reynolds will see enough snaps like look, I

444
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,919
Speaker 4: mean last year on Fantasy Live, I was like calling

445
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,920
Speaker 4: out Champayton, being like Marvin Mims leads the NFL by

446
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,879
Speaker 4: far in the yards per route, ran Like, why what

447
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 4: do we have to do to get him on the field.

448
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,879
Speaker 4: So I agree with lq's point there, But the thing is,

449
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 4: I'd like both of those guys, Mims and Franklin. I

450
00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,359
Speaker 4: like him in Best Ball, not only be because oh

451
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 4: Best Ball, just because there's deeper rosters there. When in

452
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 4: a regular redraft, we're talking fifteen rounds usually. I think

453
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,199
Speaker 4: those guys will probably be more waiver wire names to

454
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,160
Speaker 4: keep an eye on. But yeah, I think Troy Franklin

455
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 4: is gonna get a lot of run because of the

456
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 4: chemistry he has.

457
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Speaker 3: With bone In.

458
00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I like Franklin again, he's he's I've

459
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 2: taken him late in Best Balls a couple of times.

460
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 2: But I don't think in redraft there's anybody besides Courtland Sutton.

461
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 1: That I have any real interest in.

462
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 3: Just yeah, you know.

463
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,680
Speaker 4: I keep wanting to be like a value, But then

464
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 4: I see the names around ahead of him, and I'm like, yeah,

465
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,119
Speaker 4: I would take all these guys over Courtland.

466
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that that's exactly sort of

467
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 1: what happens.

468
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,120
Speaker 2: If you look at the names around Sutton, You're like, oh, yeah,

469
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 2: I think I'd rather have these guys, especially because it's

470
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 2: just hard to think he has the same touchdown production

471
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 2: this year that he did like last year. What was

472
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 2: it take suchdowns last year? And yeah, I don't see

473
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 2: that's a big number. And in an offense that I

474
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 2: just don't think scores a ton of points this year,

475
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 2: it doesn't seem to happen. We don't have to spend

476
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 2: a lot of time on this, but any any Broncos

477
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,880
Speaker 2: tight ends you guys are interested in at all.

478
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Speaker 1: I mean we saw Adam Troutman scored sixty points last year.

479
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Speaker 4: I don't know if any tight ends who's never had

480
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 4: three hundred yards four years in their career who break

481
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 4: out in year five, especially because Russell Wilson is supposed

482
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 4: to be like the tight end.

483
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Speaker 3: Guy, right, Yeah, I mean yeah, Bayden usually has a

484
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 3: fantasy relevant tight end, you know with the sayings, you know,

485
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 3: Jared Cook, Jim Graham. But I don't know, man, this

486
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 3: ain't feeling like a Greg Dortch. I mean a Greg Dulsage.

487
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, well he's also I mean he's got the foot

488
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 2: injury he's kind of come back from, which I like

489
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:47,159
Speaker 2: Greg Dulsage coming out of college, and he was hurt

490
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 2: that first year. He came in like midway through the season.

491
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 2: But I remember when he first got on the field,

492
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 2: and mind you, this was the Nathaniel Hackett offense. They

493
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 2: used him almost immediately. It looked like he was gonna

494
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 2: make an immediate but yeah, he struggled to stay healthy

495
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,919
Speaker 2: and I don't I don't know that that Sean Payton

496
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 2: thinks of him the same way.

497
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 1: That the previous coaching staff did. So yeah, I think

498
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: I think we can punt on on Broncos tight ends.

499
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 3: I think it put one out.

500
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Speaker 1: That's it. Yep. On two.

501
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 2: The two time defending Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs

502
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 2: their scorers, their top scorers from last year. You'll be

503
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,400
Speaker 2: surprised to know that Patrick Mahomes was their top scoring quarterback.

504
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 2: Really even I know right, came out of nowhere, even

505
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 2: in a down year, in a bad year for Patrick Mahomes,

506
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 2: he was the QB eight two hundred and ninety four

507
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 2: point one fantasy points. Their top scoring running back Isaiah

508
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 2: Pacheco RB fifteen to thirteen point nine points for him.

509
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 2: Their number one wide receiver fantasy wise was or she Rice.

510
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 2: He was the wide receiver twenty seven overall two hundred

511
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 2: and twelve and a half points, and shocking their top

512
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 2: tight end, who was a guy named Travis Kelcey.

513
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Speaker 1: I hear he's dating somebody famous. I'm not sure. Two

514
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 1: hundred nineteen pointso yeah, I think that's it.

515
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 2: Dms are on fire right after you're done. Two hundred

516
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 2: nineteen point four points he was the tight end three.

517
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 2: Some of the names, at least one of the important

518
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 2: names that got out of the building, Mark Wez Valdez

519
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 2: Scantling no longer in Kansas City, but they do bring

520
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 2: in Marquise Brown, Hollywood Brown. They signed IRV Smith. You

521
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:27,120
Speaker 2: let IRV swerve dream is long since dead. They signed

522
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 2: Carson Wentz to be the backup quarterback in case something

523
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 2: would happen to their pride signing their quarterback possession there

524
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 2: and then in the draft, they spent the number twenty

525
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 2: eight overall pick in the first round on wide receiver

526
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 2: Xavier Worthy and a fourth round pick on tight end

527
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 2: Jared Wiley. First chief off the board, not a surprise.

528
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey right around picked thirty six or thirty seven.

529
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 2: So if you're talking about a twelve team draft, probably

530
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:59,360
Speaker 2: somewhere late in round three. All right, So I mentioned

531
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 2: Florio that Mahomes any down year he was the QB eight.

532
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: We were all like, what's wrong with Patrick Mahomes?

533
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 2: He was still like top ten QB basically QB one overall.

534
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 2: Can he bounce back though, to being a top five

535
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 2: fantasy quarterback? In other words, will he go back to

536
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 2: looking like the Patrick Mahomes that we have come to

537
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 2: know so many years.

538
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll raise you one further. He has a path

539
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 4: to be the QB one in fantasy football. Again, look,

540
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 4: his odds are lower than like Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts.

541
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 4: You could throw in like Lamar there because he doesn't

542
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 4: run nearly as much as those guys, especially near the

543
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 4: goal line. So that is the cheat code for fantasy purposes.

544
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 4: But let's not act like Patrick Mahomes doesn't have two

545
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 4: five thousand yard seasons under his belt and another one

546
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 4: where he threw for almost forty nine. And let's not

547
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 4: act like he doesn't have a fifty touchdown season, a

548
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 4: thirty eight, a thirty seven, and at forty one. Like

549
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 4: this guy is the best of the best for a reason.

550
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 4: The thing that has changed, though we didn't see it

551
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 4: as much a year one, but we saw it a

552
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,199
Speaker 4: lot last year was the loss of Tyreek Hill. They

553
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 4: didn't have that downfield threat and the offense became a

554
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 4: whole lot of short underneath passes. Two years ago, he

555
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 4: broke the record for short yards touchdown passes. That's hard

556
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 4: to sustain, which is why we saw it dipped so

557
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 4: much last year, but it doesn't have to sustain this year.

558
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 4: They have the deep ball back. Marquis Brown is the

559
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 4: best field stretcher they've had since Tyreek Hill. Xavier Worthy

560
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 4: has the capability of being a really good field stretcher.

561
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 4: He's also a good yat guy. Then you have Rice

562
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 4: and Kelsey there who are good yack guys. This is

563
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 4: the most complete Chiefs offense I think it has been

564
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 4: since Tyreek Hill left. And again I wouldn't say it's

565
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 4: as high as some of the other guys' chances because

566
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,400
Speaker 4: he doesn't run as much. But yeah, he can easily

567
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 4: explode this year with those field stretchers and get back

568
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 4: to what he once was where he's thrown for five

569
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 4: thousand yards and forty plus touchdowns.

570
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 2: You talk about not running, and we've always said that

571
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 2: if you don't run, if you're not gonna get you know,

572
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 2: I called the baseline like three four hundred yards on

573
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 2: the ground.

574
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: That you have to be incredibly efficient throwing the football.

575
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 2: It was what Aaron Rodgers did a few years ago,

576
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 2: right when he had like forty touchdowns and like five interceptions,

577
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 2: Like you have to have that level of efficiency.

578
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes can have that level of efficiency.

579
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 2: Like if there's a guy who can do it right now,

580
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 2: he's the guy who can certainly do that now that

581
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 2: they have him, now they have those added weapons for him.

582
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 4: He also ran for a career high last year. And

583
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 4: I don't think this gets enough talking points. Zero rushing

584
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 4: touchdowns when the year before he had four, and every

585
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 4: year prior to that, besides the year where he played

586
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 4: one game he had at least two. Doesn't sound like

587
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 4: a lot. But that's twelve to twenty four free fantasy

588
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 4: points right there.

589
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it does. It makes a difference.

590
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 2: It adds up, especially at a position that is so

591
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 2: bunched up at the top, right, like the top level

592
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 2: guys are all still fairly close to each other. Something

593
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 2: like that makes an absolute difference in the overall scoring.

594
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 1: So Floyle talked.

595
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 2: About the the help that they got just changing the

596
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 2: offense or upgrading some pieces of the offense. Xavier Worthy,

597
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 2: the first round pick that they bring in from the

598
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 2: University of Texas, Lakwan, what are your expectations for him

599
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 2: in redraft? Right, Like you can draft him in basketball,

600
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 2: you don't have to worry about setting in line up

601
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: for him. But is he a guy that we feel

602
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 2: like we can start every week in redraft leagues.

603
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 3: No, and I feel like it will be more so

604
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 3: he'll be in that flex category, Like he'll be a

605
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 3: guy that you can put in if he has the

606
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 3: great matchup to beat the coverage. And honestly, I feel

607
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 3: like Xavier Worthy is like fantasy hype right now. It's

608
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 3: kind of like a little bit down since post draft,

609
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 3: and I kind of like that to where his price

610
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 3: isn't too expensive. So I'm willing to bring him on

611
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 3: board as like my wide receiver four or five, you know,

612
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 3: in my debt pieces, because I really think he can

613
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 3: have some big spike weeks of being able to blow

614
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 3: by the defense and make the big plays. Like I

615
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 3: think we do get back to Patrick Mahomes that Floria

616
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 3: was talking about like this two seasons ago. This dude

617
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 3: just threw for five thousand yards when we had the

618
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 3: most questions about his offense losing Tyreek Hill. So it's like,

619
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 3: I think this offense is just as good as that

620
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 3: offense that they had in twenty twenty two. To where

621
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 3: it's in my mind is like if everybody stays healthy,

622
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 3: Travis Kelsey, Marquis Brown or Sheid Rice and Xavier Worthy.

623
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 3: Isaiah Pacheco is an underrated guy as well, involved in

624
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 3: that passing game thanks to Matt Nag he always getting

625
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 3: his running backs involved. So it's like this offense looks

626
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 3: a lot better, a lot more solid to where like

627
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 3: I think Xavier Worthy could be a worthy roster pick. See,

628
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 3: they're you know, in a redraft being that he will

629
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 3: be a guy that you can fluctuate, you know, some

630
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 3: weeks based on matchups.

631
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Speaker 2: So he mentioned, you know, you can't really mention Worthy

632
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 2: right now without mentioning Hollywood Brown. Yeah, if if if Worthy,

633
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 2: Florio is not a if He's like a you know,

634
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 2: a matchup based or week to week kind of starter.

635
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 2: Your expectations for for Marquise Brown? I mean is he

636
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 2: high end wide receiver too? I mean what what would

637
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 2: you expect from him this year?

638
00:29:59,240 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: Yeah?

639
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 4: I think Brown is a big value right now. He's

640
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 4: my personal favorite of the Chiefs wide receivers. And I

641
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 4: was gonna ask you guys how you like them as well?

642
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 4: And my thinking is, we don't know what's gonna happen

643
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 4: with Rashid Rice and Worthy. I think we'll have a

644
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 4: similar year to what Rachid Rice was last year, different

645
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 4: style of playing stuff. But I think the Chiefs are

646
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 4: gonna ease him along early on, and really in the

647
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 4: second half kind of set him loose because the Chiefs

648
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 4: don't care about September and October. They just want to

649
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 4: get through it unscathed, and then they really start to care.

650
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 4: So I think mark He's Brown on a one year deal,

651
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 4: will be the number one wide receiver to start the year,

652
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 4: and if he could stay healthy, I think that should

653
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 4: carry out for the full season, and I think a

654
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 4: career year could easily be on tap for Marque's Brown.

655
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 4: Here low end high like wide receiver two. Like you said, Marcus,

656
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 4: I think is kind of as long as he stays healthy.

657
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 4: That feels more like the floor. Like I wouldn't be

658
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 4: surprised if this guy flirted with a wide receiver one season.

659
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Speaker 4: If he stays healthy for seventeen games, that is the

660
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 4: big if. With Marquis Brown's help.

661
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: I get the sense that they're gonna use him, that

662
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 2: his role's going to evolve, And I think you kind

663
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 2: of were sort of hinting at that too, Like I

664
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if because last year to talk with

665
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: the Chiefs was Hey, you know, they're just a short

666
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: kind of a dink and dunk offense or a ball

667
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 2: control offense. We're not seeing them air it out partial

668
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: because they just didn't really have the personnel to do it.

669
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Speaker 2: I think you're gonna see them really take shots early

670
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: in the season, and now I think as they get

671
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 2: later in the year, you'll see that offense sort of

672
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 2: contract a little bit. And I think it might become

673
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 2: because teams aren't just gonna give them the space to.

674
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,959
Speaker 1: Let Mahomes go bombs away every single week.

675
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 2: But you've got the guys that, you know, we know

676
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,719
Speaker 2: what Rashie Rice can do with the ball in his hands,

677
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 2: Xavier Worthy can be that guy, Hollywood Brown can be

678
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: that guy. So I think you're gonna see them really

679
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 2: be vertical early in the season, and you know, you know,

680
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 2: Andy Reid's gonna have something up his sleeve. He's gonna

681
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: cook something up. And then midway through the season they're

682
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: gonna completely switch things up. We're gonna be like, damn,

683
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 2: we should have seen this coming. Yeah, I think I

684
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 2: think that's.

685
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Speaker 4: Really care about early on, they just don't know there.

686
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: They just have to work out the kinks because they

687
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 2: know they're gonna be in the playoffs. They know they're

688
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: gonna make a deep run in the playoffs. Let's just

689
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 2: spend the first six weeks sort of ironing out the

690
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 2: well with the Patriots too. I feel like the Patriots

691
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 2: were like that sort of near the end of Brady's

692
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 2: tenure there where.

693
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a little bit.

694
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Speaker 2: Rough sometimes at the start of the year, but by

695
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 2: the time you got to like October, certainly by the

696
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: time you got the Halloween, this thing was a well

697
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: oiled machine.

698
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 4: Uh.

699
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Speaker 1: And you're because you know, we'd always do that.

700
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Speaker 2: There's always that thing, like six weeks into the season,

701
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 2: like what's wrong with the Patriots? And then you know,

702
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 2: they rip off like eight wins in a row, and

703
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 2: you're like, nothing's wrong with the Patriots. You gonna win

704
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 2: ano the Super Bowls year.

705
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 4: I'm never doubting them again.

706
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, you gotta touch on this a little

707
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: bit laquam.

708
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 2: But I'll ask you, is is Isaah Pacheco going to

709
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: be the workhorse in the Kansas City backfield?

710
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 3: Uh? The signs are looking good for him to be

711
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 3: the workhorse.

712
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 4: Man.

713
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 3: I mean, like to me, is dust Like I'm not

714
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 3: really like worried about him as the backup, and they

715
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 3: haven't signed back Jared McKinnon. So there's a lot of

716
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 3: passing opportunity for Isaiah Pachecko to evolve to be this

717
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 3: type of running back to have over two hundred and

718
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 3: thirty touches a season, and he's young. This guy runs angry.

719
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 3: I mean if the ground could scream. I mean, honestly,

720
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 3: this dude has workloadability in him, and you gotta love that.

721
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 3: Matt Naggy is realizing, like I can get more out

722
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 3: of this guy. I mean, this dude looks like he

723
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 3: can be a RB one this season and not overall,

724
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 3: but like an actual RB one because we're drafting him

725
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 3: as if he's dressed as a RB two, which is fine,

726
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 3: that's great value. Like when I go in the first round,

727
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Speaker 3: I get a bijon and I can slap of Isaiah

728
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 3: Pachecko behind him, and those couple of rounds later, I

729
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 3: kind of like that build where I can just focus

730
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 3: on my wide receivers in those early rounds. So it's like,

731
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 3: Isaiah Pacheck is definitely a guy people should have on

732
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Speaker 3: their radars, a workhorse running back.

733
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Speaker 2: I mean, he's RB fifteen last year Floya. Could he

734
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 2: get in the top ten this year or is fifteen

735
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 2: about his ceiling?

736
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 4: I he is my favorite value in the first four

737
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 4: or five rounds right now. I have him as the

738
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 4: RB eight, I believe. But I think top is easily

739
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 4: in his range of outcomes because for everything LQ said

740
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 4: I agree with and I would even take it aside.

741
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 4: I think we saw it happen last season, Like late

742
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 4: in the year, they were playing him a lot of

743
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 4: snaps and he was going off. He was giving you

744
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 4: close to twenty fantasy points per game, and then the

745
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 4: passing game died, like his target rate doubled in year

746
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 4: two from his rookie year. But as the year went on,

747
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 4: especially in the playoffs, they just started throwing him the

748
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 4: ball more and more and more. So I again, it

749
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 4: could easily be one of those situations where, like eight

750
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 4: weeks into the year, you're like, man, this guy is

751
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 4: who he always is. He's an RB two because the

752
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 4: Chiefs they want him healthy late in the year. They're

753
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 4: probably not gonna give him the like a CMC workload

754
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 4: early on, but the second half of the year and

755
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 4: in the fantasy playoffs when things are weather's getting cold,

756
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 4: and stuff like that. I think Pacheco's going to be

757
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 4: a league winner, and he has quickly become my most

758
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 4: early round drafted running back.

759
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I I need to kind of get out of

760
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 2: my because I think the the point that, you know,

761
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 2: all they really did was was re signed Clyde Edwards

762
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 2: Laire to a one year deal. I think that really

763
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 2: signals that we are all in on Isaiah Pacheco, and

764
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: I think I need to sort of wrap my head

765
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 2: around next.

766
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: I look at him and I'm like.

767
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's fine.

768
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: Like I don't.

769
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 2: I don't dislike him, I don't love him, but I

770
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: think I have to realize that the Chiefs really like

771
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: him and that that means more than anything.

772
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: I think at this point, well, get the best offense

773
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 1: in football that I think is critical critical. We're halfway

774
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: through the AFC West.

775
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 2: Uh, We're gonna find out will we be doing to

776
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 2: DeVante Adams in drafts with Avante Adams wanted to do

777
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:45,280
Speaker 2: to Jimmy Garoppolo.

778
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: Wait uh.

779
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 2: Stick around for more of the NFL Fantasy Football podcast.

780
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,240
Speaker 2: Up next to the Las Vegas Raiders. Your top fantasy

781
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 2: quarterback in Vegas last year was Aidan O'Connell and his mustache.

782
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 2: One hundred and thirty two point eight Fantasy points. QB

783
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 2: twenty eight Josh Jacobs. It was not a great year

784
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 2: for Josh Jacobs fantasy wise, just RB twenty eight hundred

785
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 2: and eighty one point one fantasy points. Devonte Adam is

786
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 2: still a top ten wide receiver. Last year he fell

787
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 2: at number ten two hundred and sixty five point four

788
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: fantasy points. Michael Mayer was your top tight end out

789
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 2: of Vegas te thirty five seventy one point four points.

790
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 2: In the offseason, they lost Josh Jacobs, They said goodbye

791
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 2: to Jimmy Garoppolo, second by the hunter Renfro, who was

792
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: kind of surprised, is still a free agent right now,

793
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 2: and DeAndre Carter also gone. They brought in Gardner Minshew

794
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 2: as a free agent. They also signed Alexander Madison in

795
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: the draft. Lay smean the number thirteen overall pick on

796
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: brock Bowers, the tight end out of Georgia, and they

797
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 2: drafted running back Dylan Lobby in.

798
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Speaker 1: The sixth round first off the board.

799
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Speaker 2: No surprise, it is Devonte Adams right around pick eighteen.

800
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 2: So you know, ask these questions out of order, as

801
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: they are written because we mentioned DeVante Adams as the

802
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 2: number one pick off the board. Uh lakwan, he's going

803
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 2: second round? Should we trust him in the second round

804
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 2: based on the quarterback situation, the offense in general, the

805
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: fact that you know age is starting to come for

806
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: Devonte Adams.

807
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 4: Uh.

808
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 3: Yes, Now that Jimmy G is clearly away from the

809
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 3: building and faculty from Devonte Adams, I think more so

810
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 3: a lot of people remember those first nine weeks of

811
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 3: playing with Jimmy G and Davonte Adams. I trust him

812
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 3: because the target share is going to be there for

813
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 3: that young quarterback where I think Aiden O'Connell will take

814
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 3: on the league to be the starting quarterback, So the

815
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 3: target share is going to be well over thirty percent.

816
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: Like we kind of understand that because with Jimmy G,

817
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 3: there was weeks where Jacoby Myers was looking like the

818
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 3: number one And when you look at the first two

819
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 3: months of football, I mean Jacoby Myers was like a

820
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 3: top twelve wide receiver while Davante the Adams was just

821
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 3: breaking top fifteen. And then after the benching, we kind

822
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 3: of seen Davonte Adams take back that alpha role. He

823
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 3: started scoring more touchdowns starting getting more consistent targets versus

824
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 3: Jacoby Myers that was utilized more as a wide receiver.

825
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 1: Two.

826
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 3: So with Ato and o'conna as a starter coming out

827
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 3: of Week one, I trust Devonte Adams as a solid

828
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 3: wide receiver two, just based on we have the targets there,

829
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 3: the target Viyeuen is going to be there for him,

830
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 3: So why not?

831
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 4: So?

832
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 2: I mean, but to that point, right, because you're right

833
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 2: after they moved on from Garoppolo and like AOC basically

834
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 2: took over as the quarterback. He was looking for Davante

835
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: Adams on the regular he in Florida.

836
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: We've heard a lot of.

837
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 2: Stuff out of Vegas that this is a legitimate quarterback competition.

838
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 2: They brought in Gardner Minshew, but it doesn't seem like

839
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 2: they're just going to hand him the job, Like he's

840
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: going to have to really compete for this. If we're

841
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 2: drafting Davante Adams and chances are he's the one guy

842
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 2: that that is going to be drafted consistently across Fantasy.

843
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: Do we want it to stay with O'Connell or are

844
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 2: we okay Minshew maybe getting that gig No.

845
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 4: I think you want it to be Minshew, because I

846
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 4: compared their two numbers from last year and they are

847
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 4: almost the pointing Spider Man gift of like of Mah,

848
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 4: I'm mid, but Gardner Minshew had a better deep ball

849
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 4: of the two, which matters a lot for Devonte Adams.

850
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 4: But the thing, DeVante is one of those players that

851
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 4: I think, like in best Ball right now, he's going

852
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 4: late round two and you could get him as a

853
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 4: wide receiver too, become redrafts. I mean, I look at

854
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 4: every redraft rankings outside of my own. He's in the

855
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 4: top ten, and I think that's where he's gonna go

856
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 4: come August. And I'm firmly out on that price. You

857
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 4: look at what he did last season. He did so

858
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 4: on insane volume, second most targets of his career, the

859
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 4: highest target share since twenty nineteen, the third most air

860
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 4: yards in the NFL. He had the second most red

861
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 4: zone targets. Like he was led the NFL in first rethrows.

862
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 4: Like everything went right for Devonte Adams, and he still

863
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 4: finished as in points per game as a wide receiver two,

864
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 4: and his metrics were really starting to show signs of declining.

865
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 4: Less separation, worse rating when targeted. Wor's EPA and the

866
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 4: thing is the downfields part of his game, and I

867
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 4: think this is more in the quarterbacks it was non existent.

868
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 4: And I had Davante in Fantasy last year and he

869
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 4: his numbers were propelled by like two or three really

870
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 4: huge games where he had like twenty five, he had

871
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 4: like thirty eight and one. But then on Christmas Day

872
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 4: in the Fantasy semifinals, he gave you less than two points.

873
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 4: And I think that might be the case this year,

874
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 4: where when games are closed, the Raiders aren't gonna throw

875
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 4: a bunch, They're gonna let rely on the run game

876
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 4: in the defense, and yet when and then when they're

877
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 4: trailing or whatever, they'll throw a bunch. So my thinking is, Davante,

878
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 4: you're paying for what around where he finished last year.

879
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 4: I don't think he still has the same seal that

880
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 4: he did with Aaron Rodgers. So I think last year

881
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 4: is probably the median projection. But you're not getting any

882
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 4: of the risk baked in. And at someone in his

883
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 4: age who showed signs of decline last year, I think

884
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 4: that should be baked in a little bit more than

885
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 4: it is.

886
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think so, But I think I

887
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,439
Speaker 2: think this is a case where I always talk about

888
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: muscle memory, right, I think muscle memory sort of keeps

889
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 2: DeVante Adams where he.

890
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: Is because some of the things you talked about.

891
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 2: We know the target share is going to be huge,

892
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy five targets last year. It's hard

893
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 2: to think he sort of duplicates that because that's just

894
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 2: a lot of targets. But he's still gonna far and

895
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 2: away be the target leader in this offense. And I

896
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: think that, combined with what we remember of DeVante Adams

897
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 2: at his peak, I think is sort of keeping him

898
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 2: where he is. I will say that I have not

899
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 2: drafted a lot of him just because there are a

900
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 2: lot of things about this offense that worry me, including

901
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 2: a change of offensive coordinator and the quant I mean,

902
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: we remember Luke Getzi from his time in Chicago where

903
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 2: it wasn't always great.

904
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 4: You know.

905
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 2: Some of that was on a developing justin fields. Some

906
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 2: of it was though on the offensive coordinator. How do

907
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 2: you feel about this offense with Getsy in charge?

908
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 3: Uh, I'm a little meh. I mean, I'm not expecting

909
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 3: the stars and the moon from this offense, being that

910
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 3: there's so many questions, the running back room, the quarterback situation.

911
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 3: Can he just keep this offense afloat? Can he just

912
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 3: get DeVante Adams the ball at maximum opportunities? It's kind

913
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 3: of you go into this offense understanding this is the

914
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 3: building face. You don't have a quarterback yet the running

915
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 3: back you're still trying to figure out if he could

916
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 3: take over as the starting running back. So therefore, just

917
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 3: keep everything simple. I will trust him to that extent

918
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 3: to keeping everything simple and trying not to go out

919
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 3: there and wear multiple hats and trying to get this

920
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 3: offense and look like an offense that we know it

921
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,439
Speaker 3: cannot be without those tools. So that is as much

922
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 3: as I can give my trust and insight on him.

923
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 3: About lug Getzi being an offensive coordinator, Yeah.

924
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I just think, you know, we know where

925
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: the ball is going to go most of the time. Right,

926
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 1: Most of the targets are going to go to Davante Adams,

927
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: most of the rushing opportunities are going to go to

928
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:57,760
Speaker 1: the mere White.

929
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 2: But we also have to tied it situation. Right, they

930
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 2: spend an early round pick. They spent what a first

931
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: round pick on Michael Mayer. Last year, they spent a

932
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 2: first round pick on Brock Bowers this year. I know

933
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: we all had a sad when we saw where brock

934
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 2: Bauers landed. I mean, florial your expectations because now I've

935
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: seen a lot more hype and I've seen Bowers sort

936
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 2: of rising up draft boards a little bit. Your expectations

937
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 2: for a guy who you know, he got the generational

938
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 2: talent label slapped on him at the tight end position,

939
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: but he's in a situation where opportunity might not be

940
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 2: as plentiful as we want.

941
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: It to be.

942
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, because of the opportunity and the quarterback and the

943
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 4: coordinator who in two years in Chicago thirty first and

944
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 4: twenty seventh in past attempts they ranked. So I don't

945
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 4: love I think Titan like high end tight end two

946
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 4: is I think like the median outcome in the most

947
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 4: likely outcome. But I do think there is a situation

948
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 4: where maybe DeVante gets hurt or Bowers just is at

949
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 4: every bit as talented as we think he is, and

950
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 4: he surprises us where he finishes top ten, maybe even

951
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 4: higher at the tight end position. So when you start

952
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 4: to get past the top ten tight ends, and there's

953
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 4: names like Dallas Goddard and Pat Fryermuth and TJ. Hockinson.

954
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 4: Brock Bauers is my favorite.

955
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 3: Of that group to draft.

956
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I will take the shot on the talent,

957
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: but he really is a tight end two for me,

958
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 2: just because I don't know, you know, I just don't

959
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 2: know how they're gonna work this out. If we're gonna

960
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 2: put both those guys on the field at the same time,

961
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 2: are they going to eat into each other's talent? It's

962
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 2: each other's targets and the fact that the quarterback situation,

963
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 2: you know, where do they rank in the pecking order?

964
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 2: When Adams is going to get so many targets, Jacobe

965
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 2: Myers is going to get so many targets, Are there

966
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 2: going to be enough.

967
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: For either of those guys Mayor or Bauers to survive afterwards?

968
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,720
Speaker 3: I don't know the real nasty work there. I'm actually fading,

969
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 3: to be honest, I don't want any parts.

970
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it, I get it. I just you know,

971
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 1: I'm just sad. I wanted something.

972
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we want him to go somewhere notable, but

973
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 3: we did.

974
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 2: I wanted him to you know, I wanted him to

975
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 2: have a Sam Laporta like season, a Sam Laporta like opportunity,

976
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: hey Han, maybe he can could have been the Rams.

977
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: But maybe it's just it's just hard to it's hard

978
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: to see it. It's hard to see it.

979
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 2: UH. Last team, the Los Angeles Chargers, their top fantasy

980
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: score at quarterback Justin Herbert no shock there at QB

981
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 2: seventeen two hundred and forty one point two points. Austin Eckler,

982
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: even despite being banged up most of the season one

983
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty five point four points, he was RB

984
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 2: twenty six, Keenan Allen the wide receiver eight UH just

985
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 2: shy at two hundred and seventy nine points, and Gerald

986
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 2: Everett was their top tight end tight end twenty three.

987
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: Overall one hundred and eleven point one points. One one

988
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: one point one was Gerald Everett last year.

989
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 2: Losing a lot of guys off this offense though, Keenan

990
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: Allen gone, Mike Williams gone, Jalen Geiton gone, Austin Eckler out,

991
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 2: Josh Kelly out, Gerald Everett all gone. UH. They went

992
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 2: to Baltimore and went shopping for unning backs. They bring

993
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 2: in Gus Edwards and JK. Dobbins. They signed Will Disley

994
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 2: and Hayden Hurst at tight end. They draft Ladd McConkie

995
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 2: in the second round, Kamini Vidal in the sixth round,

996
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 2: and a couple of wide receivers in the seventh round

997
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:17,439
Speaker 2: Brendan Rice and Cornelius Johnson. Right now, the number one

998
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 2: charger off the board is Ladd mcconkeye right around pick

999
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 2: number sixty.

1000
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: Nine or so.

1001
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 2: I know we have all professed our love and admiration

1002
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 2: for Ladd McConkie in this Chargers offense. But a simple

1003
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 2: question for you, Michael f Florio, what will a Jim

1004
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: Harbaugh Greg Roman offense look like?

1005
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: Especially with this personnel.

1006
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 4: Run run run. When Jim Harbor was in San France,

1007
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 4: they were one of the most run heavy offenses in

1008
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 4: the NFL for his tenure. They were one of the

1009
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 4: more run heavy offenses in Michigan during his tenure. Greg

1010
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 4: Roman has been in oc ten years in this league.

1011
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 4: Every time he's finished top ten in rushing attempts. I

1012
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 4: believe it's seven times he's finished in the top three.

1013
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 4: So yeah, they're going to run the ball plenty, and

1014
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 4: I know that's not a good thing for Justin Herbert.

1015
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 4: But the one thing I've been thinking is, like these

1016
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 4: these two have had a history of using their quarterback

1017
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 4: as a runner, and obviously the quarterback dictates that a

1018
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 4: little bit. But like Colin Kaepernick, Lamar Jackson, Tarad Taylor,

1019
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 4: those are our quarterbacks that these guys have had success

1020
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 4: with in the NFL. So I'm not saying that Justin

1021
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 4: Herbert is gonna be Lamar Jackson. But I do think

1022
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 4: it's possible that we get career highs rushing yards and

1023
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 4: touchdowns out of Herbert this year. I mean, so, I

1024
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 4: know we've all said, like, they're gonna run the ball,

1025
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 4: They're gonna run that hell out of the ball.

1026
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,919
Speaker 2: I'm right now Justin Herbert going at QB seventeen because

1027
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 2: everybody has freaked out about this.

1028
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: I mean, have gone have we gone too far with

1029
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:46,240
Speaker 1: this Lakwi?

1030
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 2: Because he's still a franchise quarterback at least they are

1031
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 2: paying him like a franchise quarterback. You would think that

1032
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 2: they're going to use his arm at some point. Have

1033
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 2: we freaked out too much?

1034
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1035
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 3: I think we look at the offense on paper, I'm like, oh,

1036
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 3: this is a bad offense, but it's more of the unknowns.

1037
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 3: But a lot of those situations that we talk about

1038
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 3: that are bad teams, they have a bad or mid

1039
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 3: tier quarterback, and this isn't that situation. You still have

1040
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 3: a top tier quarterback and Justin Herbert to where I

1041
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 3: feel like he's able to execute this offense to be

1042
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 3: efficient with the wide receiver pass catchers that he has.

1043
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 3: I mean, you bring in Lamb mc conkley. We know

1044
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 3: that he could separate as well, bringing Josh Palmer who

1045
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 3: showed them, well, you didn't bring them in, you kept them,

1046
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,919
Speaker 3: but bring you have that on the table to where

1047
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 3: he's shown flashes at least where he can take on

1048
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 3: at times as an alpha wide receiver, and then everybody

1049
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 3: else will have to fall in place in the pecking

1050
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 3: order to keep this offense alive and keep the offense

1051
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 3: driving downfield. But you are happy that you have Justin

1052
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 3: Herbert at the captain. So when it comes to fantasy

1053
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 3: and I look at Justin Herbert at QB seventeen, I'm

1054
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 3: grabbing that up every single time if I punt on

1055
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 3: the other quarterbacks that I missed out on, the Josh

1056
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 3: Allens to Joe Burrows and the Dak Prescotts and the

1057
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,280
Speaker 3: Colin Murray's. Like like Florio said, I mean, Justin Herbert

1058
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 3: has some little bit to him. He doesn't do it often,

1059
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 3: but he can bring it out at times. And I

1060
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 3: feel like when you look back at Justin Herbert's time,

1061
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 3: you know, with Oregon, I feel like he was a

1062
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 3: little bit Mobien shown flashes of being out there to

1063
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 3: kind of get out of danger. So I have good

1064
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 3: expectation for him this season.

1065
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 2: I'm look, I'm at the point where he's fallen so

1066
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 2: far that I'm definitely willing to take him. And why

1067
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 2: not say Justin Herbert is a second QB when he's

1068
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 2: a guy that we know could be a QB one

1069
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 2: if everything shakes out right, you know. So I do

1070
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 2: think we have sort of freaked out a little bit

1071
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 2: too much and forgotten the fact that, you know, Jim

1072
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 2: Harball and Greg Roman have had quarterbacks who have been

1073
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 2: efficient and effective passers. And you are correct, he can

1074
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 2: run just enough to sort of make things interesting. I

1075
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 2: keep that thing going.

1076
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 4: Herbert is a great quarterback to pair with, like Anthony

1077
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 4: Richardson or Jaden Daniels or someone like that who isn't

1078
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 4: a rock solid QB one, but you're taking for the

1079
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 4: upside coppairing with Herbert, who's more of a safe floor

1080
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 4: him and golf are who I can he taking his

1081
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 4: QB twos?

1082
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: And then yeah, Florio.

1083
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 2: Quentin Johnston was not great last year, but the talk

1084
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 2: has been look, this coaching staff looks around it like, well,

1085
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 2: we're gonna use him in a different way completely, I mean,

1086
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 2: are can we can we hope for better things for

1087
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 2: Quentin Johnston this year?

1088
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,959
Speaker 4: Yes? Because he he is a yat guy who needs

1089
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 4: to learn how to stretch the field. And last year

1090
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 4: they tried to use him as a field stretcher, like

1091
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 4: like in a Mike Williams type role, and I know

1092
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 4: everyone likes to clown him. Oh he dropped that game

1093
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 4: winning would have been like a sixty yard game winning touchdown,

1094
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 4: And the next week he dropped like a fifty yard touchdown,

1095
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 4: and it's like, Okay, he's he's getting open downfield. Though,

1096
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 4: if if he holds onto those We're looking at Quentin

1097
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 4: Johnson in a very different light. So I'm not telling

1098
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 4: you like I'm I'm super bullish on him and I'm

1099
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 4: leaving every draft with him and stuff. But he's completely

1100
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 4: free in drafts right now. So I've taken a couple

1101
00:50:59,680 --> 00:50:59,959
Speaker 4: of shots.

1102
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: I mean, That's the thing is that the risk is

1103
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: so low with Quinton Johnston that it's maybe worth taking

1104
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: a couple of swings on him. For sure.

1105
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 3: No, that is true because him and James and Williams

1106
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 3: are in the same box for me, and like Jamison,

1107
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 3: Williams is going way further ahead of Quentin Johnson to

1108
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 3: like j Moore. But but if I do want to

1109
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 3: take a shot on that tier of a guy, then

1110
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 3: it will be Quentin Johnson because he's basically free. He's

1111
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 3: dirt cheap.

1112
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I get it. And you mentioned, you know,

1113
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 2: him getting open downfield and having the drops. I mean,

1114
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 2: you know a lot of storms have told me drops

1115
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 2: don't matter until they do. As long as he's still

1116
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 2: getting opportunities, the drops don't matter. And so we'll see

1117
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 2: if he continues to get those opportunities. Last question, Uh,

1118
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 2: any interest on in JK. Dobbins either of.

1119
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 3: You new dust? He's in the dust collection.

1120
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 4: I just the other two. I'm all about drafting though.

1121
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't drafted a lot. I haven't drafted a

1122
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 1: lot of JK.

1123
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 2: Dobbins, But I will admit when I saw the quotes

1124
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 2: from Daniel Wheremiah about you want JK. Dobbins on your

1125
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 2: fantasy team like I I was. I was that Russell

1126
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 2: Westbrook gift of him, like eating snacks in the corner,

1127
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 2: Like that was mebbs.

1128
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 3: I don't think DJ has faced the pain and burned

1129
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 3: from JK. Dobbins as a fantasy player.

1130
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: I like I said, I'm not I'm not taking a

1131
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: lot of I'm not taking a lot of of JK. Dobbins.

1132
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: But like, yeah, I have. You know, I clicked a

1133
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 1: couple of times after I saw that quote.

1134
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 3: So you're replacing your Javante Williams love for JK.

1135
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 2: Dobbins this year, and it's not the same, you know.

1136
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's more, it's more of my

1137
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 2: it's more of my faith in DJ.

1138
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 1: Call it that. It's my Daniel the person to put

1139
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: your faith in.

1140
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's my belief in Daniel Jeremiah as a talient,

1141
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:45,760
Speaker 2: talent evaluator and a scout.

1142
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: That's that's what I put this out on Twitter yesterday.

1143
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 4: Though I could see look not to anywhere close to

1144
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 4: the extent that the Dolphins were last year, but a

1145
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 4: veteran running back who gets by on volume in a

1146
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 4: high touchdown rate, and then a backup who gets by

1147
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 4: on a very high efficiency. Look, they're not gonna be

1148
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 4: rb ones, these two. But like I could see this

1149
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 4: that the Gus Edwards Kamani Videll backfields looking similar to

1150
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 4: like a poor man's Miami last year.

1151
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,919
Speaker 1: Okay, I could see that. I think that's fair for sure.

1152
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: All right, Well there we go.

1153
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 2: That's our look at the a f C West. Were

1154
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 2: back with you on Wednesday, where we will look at

1155
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 2: the NFC West. So it means Lakwana and I get

1156
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 2: to go head to head and battle our squads. Interesting

1157
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 2: love it for what it's worth. I like, I don't

1158
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 2: hate the Rams.

1159
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: I like the Rams.

1160
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 2: They got a lot of especially have a lot of

1161
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 2: fun fantasy pieces. So we say, I respect that we

1162
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 2: can we can start there as a basis. See, we're

1163
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 2: already bringing nations together. We're just trying to heal this country.

1164
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: It's all we want to here.

1165
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 3: Now, I still hate.

1166
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 2: At least at least he's honest. All right, anyway, that'll

1167
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 2: do it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.

1168
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 2: They happy, safe and healthy, You good and live well,

1169
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 2: Uh stay cool. If you are out there in the

1170
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 2: heat somewhere in the meantime, we will talk to you

1171
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 2: on Wednesday,