1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Unreal is back with their limited edition Vikings drop, so 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: head over to Younarl dot com for more details. Hey guys, 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: it is Titans Week here on the Tailgate and I 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: could not be more pumped for this week's guest. I know, 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: I know, I say that every single week, but boy, 6 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: oh boy, do we have a treat this week. Every 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: once in a while, we step out of the stand 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: up comedy world and into the Hollywood world, and we 9 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: have a diehard Titans fan this week. You might know 10 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: him from I believe, one of the best comedies of 11 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: all time, the show Psych. He also was in A 12 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: Million Little Things. 13 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 2: He directs. 14 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: He was in Buddy Games with Josh Dumel and Nick Schwartzen. 15 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: We have the incredible James Rode Rodriguez. This is a 16 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: really fun one. 17 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: Guys. 18 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: If you like the show, please make sure you're subscribed 19 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: to it and maybe leave a little review that would 20 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: really really help us. Thanks for tuning in and enjoy 21 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: the show. 22 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 2: Everybody today Recket Reckett for bad man, I mean, all right, everybody. 23 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: We are lucky enough to be joined by the great 24 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: James Rode Rodriguez, die hard Titans fan, James, But you 25 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: are not a Tennessee guy. Right, you are one of 26 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: You are one of the rare fans who have followed 27 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: a team from their old place to their new place. 28 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it's it's a rare breed of us 29 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 3: who whose loyalties are so myopically dedicated to a group 30 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 3: of men on the grid iron that when they change uniforms, 31 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 3: we change with them. And the truth is, I lived 32 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 3: in San Antonio. I grew up in San Antonio, so 33 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: I had no I had no real affiliation or loyalty 34 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 3: to the city of Houston. I picked the Oilers as 35 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 3: a very very young child, primarily because everyone else in 36 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 3: my family were Cowboys fans, and I was found and determined, 37 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 3: even at that early age, to become the black sheep 38 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 3: of my own family. It was very important to me, 39 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 3: and it just so happened that Earl Campbell was sort 40 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 3: of the face of the franchise back then, who had 41 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 3: like a player to latch onto. Before I even really 42 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 3: understood what, you know, the rules or how football worked, 43 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 3: I just knew there was this guy and when they 44 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 3: handed him the ball, he ran like over people upright, 45 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 3: And you know, until you know guys like Jamal Lewis 46 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 3: and now Derrick Henry came around, Like, there just aren't 47 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 3: a lot of running backs who punished defenders, you know, 48 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 3: the way that Earl Campbell did. That was sort of 49 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 3: my introduction to football, because Dallas was like, you know, 50 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 3: I don't know, I felt like there were a bunch 51 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 3: of pretty boys and their cheerleaders had almost as much 52 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 3: attention as they did, and they were America His team, 53 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 3: and I don't know, none of that appealed to me, right, 54 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 3: And the more that I was chastised for being an 55 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 3: Oiler fan, you know, the more my love for the 56 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: team grew and my hatred for the Cowboys grew, and 57 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 3: then I became very attached to all those teams of 58 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 3: the eighties and early nineties. You know, run and Shoot 59 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 3: was a great time for us. We underachieved, but it 60 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 3: was still a really fun team to watch. And then 61 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,399 Speaker 3: you know, Steve and Eddie were the team, but those 62 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 3: were the guys that took us, you know, to Tennessee. 63 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 3: So there was no way I was going to abandon 64 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 3: those guys. Those were my guys. And frankly, it's more fun, 65 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 3: you know, to watch a game in Nashville than it 66 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 3: ever was, you know. 67 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: In Houston. Yeah, it's funny you said a couple of things. 68 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: You know, we have a strong connection to a punishing 69 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: running back here. I just remember some of the moments 70 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: in AP's career where he would run a guy over 71 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: and it's almost this primal, like you can't even understand 72 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: why you connect with it so hard. Yeah, but it's 73 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: it's just so competitive and aggressive and the it's nuts. 74 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:13,119 Speaker 1: But I also connect to that the finding a play. 75 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: We were so lucky. I was a kid in ninety 76 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: eight when Randy Moss came on the scene, and when 77 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: you have one of the people who's the greatest to 78 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: ever do it, and they do it in almost this 79 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: sounds corny to say, but almost this artistic way that 80 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: yet you just you just sink into it, in that 81 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: moment where the world isn't the world yet as it 82 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: actually you're still full of hope as a kid. It 83 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: just having a guy like an Earl Campbell or a 84 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: Randy Moss really makes you a different sort of fan 85 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:41,679 Speaker 1: of a team. 86 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 3: I hardcore agree, and I wonder like if Campbell hadn't 87 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 3: been on those Oilers teams when I was, you know, 88 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,799 Speaker 3: figuring out how to live and take care of myself 89 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 3: in very basic ways. If I had, if I would 90 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 3: have perhaps migrated to another, you know, another team altogether 91 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 3: out I wasn't going to be a Cowboys fan. That's 92 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 3: that's what I knew. So I kind of owe it's 93 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: a campbell for like, oh, well, there's this other team 94 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 3: in Texas and they have this guy. I'll just go 95 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 3: with them. Otherwise those man, I might be sitting here 96 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 3: as a fellow Vikings fan on this pod. 97 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: You know that'd be better you. But we also shared 98 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: a guy. I mean I Warren Moon. I mean, I 99 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: don't know what your complete experience was with him as 100 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: an Oilers fan, but even the time he spent in Minnesota, 101 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: it has that I never quite understand why he doesn't 102 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: consistently exist in that greatest quarterback conversation. I mean, I 103 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: understand why, right, he couldn't come into the league. He 104 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: spent time in the CFL. But if you just package 105 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: who he was and how he threw the ball, he's 106 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: one of my favorite guys to ever watch play. 107 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a great pure passer, and he was 108 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 3: you know, he was a bit of a cerebral assassin 109 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 3: as well. I think what keeps him out of that 110 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 3: conversation is that at least in Houston, they gave him 111 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 3: a lot of toys. Sure, we also had a pretty 112 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 3: good defense, and you know, we couldn't even get to 113 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 3: an AFC championship game. So there was something, there was 114 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 3: some kind of disconnect, There was something lost in translation 115 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 3: where he could not lead a great team to the 116 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 3: promised land. And I think that's that's ultimately what holds 117 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 3: him back. Because the yards obviously are there, the stats 118 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 3: are absurd, the mustache was on point. 119 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: Haul of fameustash. 120 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, man, you gotta win. You gotta win in 121 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: this league to be considered to be considered one of 122 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 3: the best. 123 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: Well maybe that's the problem here where we're just so 124 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: used to, like, you know, on the Statue of Liberty, 125 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: they have the tired and hungry. I feel like we 126 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: had we should have a like a Viking statue of 127 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: Liberty that just says, give us your old and almost 128 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: retired if you have if you can really throw the 129 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,239 Speaker 1: ball and you're in your elder years as a quarterback, 130 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: We're like, huddle up, man. 131 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 2: So we didn't. 132 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: It's not like we thought he was going to lead 133 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: a team here. Let me let me ask you this. 134 00:06:55,400 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: I think our two franchises share collectively the two best 135 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: moments in the last forty years, the Minnesota Miracle and 136 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: the Music City Miracle. 137 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 2: Is does that play for you, guys? Resonate? 138 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: I mean both neither of our teams have won a title, right, 139 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: We've both been close us four times you in this 140 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: painstaking one yard way, So it's this damaging sports trauma thing. 141 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: But do you does your guys fan base hold that moment? 142 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: And do you hold that moment is like the pinnacle 143 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: of the franchise, you know here it's kind of everybody's 144 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: obsessed with it, but every once in a while you 145 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: find people who they don't quite want to celebrate it 146 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: because it's not a title, I think for. 147 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: Me, and I would know, I wouldn't speak for the 148 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 3: for the fan base as a whole. But of course 149 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 3: it's a highlight, of course, and it's one of the 150 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 3: most unbridled, like singular moments of childlike joy that I 151 00:07:55,320 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 3: enjoyed as a grown man. But I think more than that, 152 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 3: for me, it was the scales of football justice somehow 153 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 3: balancing out what happened to us against the Bills. 154 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 2: And the greatest comeback. 155 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:17,679 Speaker 3: So it was basically just even the playing field again, 156 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 3: So it's hard for me to let it exist as 157 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 3: on its own island, as like the greatest moment in 158 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 3: Titan's history, when in reality there was this deep, deep 159 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 3: black hole that was sucking us down, and that moment 160 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 3: kind of pulled us back up to like terra firma. 161 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 3: So it's kind of like a palette cleanse. But it 162 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 3: was a beautiful It was a beautiful moment, to be sure, 163 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 3: but the fact that it was against the same team 164 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 3: in the playoffs, like, I couldn't have scripted that better 165 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 3: in terms of like, hey, let that one go, and 166 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 3: that's sort of what it allowed me to do. 167 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 2: Man. 168 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: That's really interesting because as I'm thinking about it in 169 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: real time, the similarities are wild because the Vikings had 170 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: that far view where I and as a Viking fan, 171 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: you're trained it's almost generational punishment where your dad's like, hey, 172 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: just don't get your hopes up, man, no matter what happens, 173 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: just don't buy in. And when farv hit Sydney Rice 174 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: up across the fifty in that championship game against the Saints, 175 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: I in my head, as a young adult man, went, 176 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 1: oh my god, we're going to the super Bowl only 177 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 1: to only to just be shattered. But yeah, then when 178 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: they get that Minneapolis miracle, it is against Sean Payton, 179 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: He's in the building doing the skull. So yeah, I 180 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: think I'm going to take that attitude on and really 181 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: view it that way, because you're right, it's kind of 182 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: like it almost makes the universe even. 183 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 2: That's fun. 184 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 3: It helps me. It helped me, you know, get over 185 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 3: that for sure. 186 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: I Mean, it's been a weird couple of years for 187 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: you guys, and it's kind of hard to see where 188 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: it's going, right. 189 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 3: That's very it's very kind. That's a very kind way 190 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 3: of putting it. I appreciate that. 191 00:09:58,400 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 2: I'm doing my best. 192 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I saw I'm a die hard hoops fan, 193 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: right and you want to talk about tortured fan bases, 194 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: there isn't a single one across sports that goes through 195 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: what Timberolves fans have been through and so but yet 196 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: and still, when Cage went to Boston and he won 197 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: a title, I really found myself rooting and was able 198 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: to get over how much I wish that was our success. 199 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: What is it like to watch Derrick Henry when everybody 200 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: kind of thought he was washed. I think even some 201 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: people in Tennessee to watch him like almost be on 202 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: pace for two thousand and be leading this and like, 203 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: is that hard, especially with it being the Ravens or 204 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: are you enjoying it a little bit? 205 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 3: I couldn't be happier for the King Man. I did 206 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 3: not want him to spend what was arguably his last 207 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 3: one or maybe because the guys seems to be inhuman 208 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 3: two years in his prime, you know, stuck, stuck in Tennessee. 209 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 3: So I was worried that, you know, Jerry was gonna 210 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 3: sign him and put him on the Cowboys, because that 211 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 3: happened with it, that happened with Eddie George was very 212 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 3: tough for me. I wanted it to be the Ravens 213 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 3: because I figured, you know, sharing a backfield with Lamar 214 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 3: Jackson is every running backs you know dream, and you 215 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 3: know what it would open up for him as long 216 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 3: as he still had something in the tank, like would 217 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 3: be formidable. I never thought that he would be on 218 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 3: pace for two thousand yards like this is beyond my 219 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 3: wildest expectations for him. But short of the Titans winning 220 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 3: a Super Bowl, which you know, we know is not happening. 221 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 3: You know, Derek getting a ring is probably the happiest 222 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 3: I could be as as like a you know, in 223 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 3: terms of a range of outcomes, like I'd be thrilled 224 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 3: for the guy. 225 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fun. 226 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: That gives you kind of a rooting interest in a 227 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: season that doesn't necessarily feel like it has a huge one. 228 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: It's really interest when teams go through, like the level 229 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: of change that you guys are going through. The NFL 230 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 1: is different than the NBA. Because you're a Spurs fan, right, yeah, Okay, 231 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: you you understand that, Like the NBA is this unique 232 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: beast where it is so hard to build in a 233 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: small market, and you know, there's really two teams who've 234 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: done it and done it well in the last thirty years. 235 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: It's the Warriors and the Spurs. And to. 236 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: All these teams bottom out even as OKC does it 237 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: right now, you wonder how long will it hold? Is 238 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: it real? Can they get to the level where they 239 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 1: truly compete? Same thing we're feeling with ant in Minnesota. 240 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: The NFL kind of you know, do this salary cap. 241 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: It kind of has this parody and this never ending 242 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: hope of like you generally usually two to three years away, 243 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: do you are you able to sell that to yourself 244 00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: right now? 245 00:12:59,000 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 2: Have you? 246 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: Like, what are the things that you're seeing in this 247 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: season that at least go oh man, because I mean 248 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: the Vikings as they kind of got towards the end 249 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: of the Zimmer area, you know, the narrative was you 250 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: have a quarterback who you know makes a lot and 251 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 1: the defense doesn't have anything there and then all of 252 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: a sudden, incomes O'Connell, incomes Quasy. Two years later, everybody 253 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: thought we were gonna be a disaster this year nationally 254 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: and they're I mean, they're seven and two and crushes. 255 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: I just think there's this eternal hope in the NFL. 256 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: Is there any of that like bought in your mind? 257 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 3: There always is before the season starts. I'm really good 258 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 3: at convincing myself, just just doing the calculus and like, 259 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 3: all right, well, we have completely overhauled the defense. We 260 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 3: have a brand secondary. We brought in an offensive minded 261 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 3: head coach who's gonna, you know, install a brand new 262 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 3: offense where we're gonna throw the ball, like, even if 263 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 3: we suck, we're going to look completely different and we're 264 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 3: gonna suck in a new and potentially exciting way. And 265 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 3: we're going to put up points and that'll be fun. 266 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 3: Like we go seven in you know, ten or eight 267 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 3: to nine or whatever it is, it adds up to 268 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 3: seventeen that that's acceptable if we're not making the same 269 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 3: mistakes and doing the same you know stuff that we 270 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 3: were doing under the previous regime. I just need to 271 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 3: be a culture shift, because to me, what's the point 272 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: of firing Vrabel if you're not going to like blow 273 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 3: it up and make make the team a new in 274 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 3: somebody else's image. And what's truly fascinating to me this 275 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 3: season is that we're hamstrung by the exact same issues 276 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 3: that we had last season. We still have an offensive 277 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 3: line that can't get it together. We still can't get 278 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 3: off the field on defense, So what should be a 279 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 3: pretty good defense gets worn out by the end of 280 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 3: the first half, and then we just get run up 281 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 3: in the second half and we can't score more than 282 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 3: seventeen points on offense. And I don't understand how all 283 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 3: of those things could have could have carried over. 284 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 2: Through all the changes through a whole new. 285 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 3: Group of dudes, new leadership, new head coach, new offense, 286 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 3: like you name it, everything's new, same old problems. It's 287 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 3: it's pretty wild. 288 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: You guys have one of the craziest statistics I've seen. 289 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: I don't know in one hundred years. You're the number 290 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: one ranked yards defense, you allow less yards than anybody 291 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: in professional football, and you give up the twenty ninth 292 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: most points. I like, when you're researching the game, I 293 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: don't even know what to do with that. 294 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and a lot of it came from that game 295 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 3: against Detroit where oh shit started, they started every drive 296 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 3: inside our thirty because our special the special teams breakdown 297 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 3: was like next level. That definitely pumped that stat But 298 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 3: to that end, we have we have to have the 299 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 3: worst special special teams in the league. And you know 300 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 3: that that guy's just hanging on to the gig. I 301 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 3: guess you know he's I don't know, Callahan's a loyalist, 302 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 3: whatever it is. But it seems almost as if there's 303 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 3: like a fatalistic acceptance that, all right, this entire season 304 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 3: is going to be dedicated to like learning what we 305 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 3: have starting at quarterback, and you know, to that end, great, 306 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 3: let's let's red shirt the whole season. But by the 307 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 3: end of by the end of this year, like I 308 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 3: as a fan, I want to know that Will Levis 309 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 3: is a guy or not. And you know, I guess 310 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 3: that is the measure by which I'll use whether or 311 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 3: not this season and held any value you know in 312 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 3: the canon of Titan's lore is like, all right, we 313 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 3: either found a quarterback, which would surprise me after what 314 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 3: I've seen, but I'll give the kid the benefit of 315 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 3: the doubt because you know, plenty of guys have started 316 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 3: slow in this league. Or you know, we said we 317 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 3: we said we were going to do it, and we 318 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 3: followed through. But we set this this guy up with 319 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 3: weapons and and we gave him a chance to succeed, 320 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 3: and he didn't. And so you know, we're moving on. 321 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,959 Speaker 3: And that's that. I guess that's that's what the season 322 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 3: is for the Titans. And you know, when you're a 323 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 3: diehard fan and it's that kind of mechanical and like perfunctory, Uh, 324 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 3: that's when I just am very grateful for fantasy because 325 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 3: we like what a lame duck season. 326 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: It's hard to invest in that you're exactly right if 327 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: you if you have a piece of hope, like if 328 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: even like let's say you drafted a wide receiver in 329 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: the f I remember when we had Stefan Diggs in 330 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: his first year mid level draft pick game four, he starts, 331 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: we're not a great football team. All of a sudden, 332 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: he takes a couple of balls to the house, and 333 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: you go, oh, like you did anything to convince yourself 334 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: that next year is going to be the year. Sports 335 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:17,719 Speaker 1: Soccer rooms are like really unique places, I think, and 336 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: we all kind of joke about the cliches where they're 337 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: like we're a family and it's us against the world. 338 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: You're like, nobody's against you, but I think they truly 339 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: believe that it's just You're like, it's such a you know, 340 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: you know, as being such a public figure, it's such 341 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: a unique place to have everybody looking at you. And 342 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 1: then in sports there's a lot of what you do 343 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 1: right and wrong that it just cements these places. 344 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 2: And I wonder early in. 345 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: The season because I didn't know that I didn't know 346 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: if the Titans were going to be good or bad, 347 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: but I thought they were going to be competitive. And 348 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: then a couple of those interceptions by Levis early where 349 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 1: they were like Sage, they were the interception version of 350 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: Sage Rosenfels helicopter fumbling the ball, and my nephew, who 351 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: is my adult nephew who is a gambling maniac, was 352 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: real high on the Titans boy, and he was at 353 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: my house for one of those interceptions, and I was like, 354 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: I'll just go outside for a while. 355 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 2: I guess I don't want to be a part of this. 356 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: But do you think there was like do you think 357 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: something like that, because it seems like since those moments 358 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: it just hasn't come back at all. 359 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 3: No. I mean, I think Mason Rudolph shows you who 360 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 3: the Titans really are sure, which in a way is 361 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 3: even more depressing because you realize, oh, here's a guy 362 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 3: that will lead this souped up, new designed offense to 363 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:52,479 Speaker 3: six wins, like a six win team with a decent 364 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,479 Speaker 3: backup who will come in and manage the game. So 365 00:19:55,800 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 3: that to me was like watching Levis make mistakes that 366 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 3: if you saw, like in a bad football movie, you 367 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 3: would be like, well, this is the worst attempt at 368 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 3: real football action. Yeah, was one thing, but at least 369 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 3: the like I don't at least the mask was still 370 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 3: on in a way because you're like, well, he can't 371 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 3: do this. Every week he got hurt and Mason Rudolph 372 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 3: came in. It was like, oh, well, this is just 373 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 3: our ceiling and we suck. And that was really depressing, 374 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,959 Speaker 3: Like because if we're a six win team, six win 375 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 3: teams you know, aren't close to two winning championships. 376 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,719 Speaker 1: Well, and the problem is there's a bunch of two 377 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: or three win teams. You find yourself and like, what 378 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: I think is the worst place in football is like 379 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: you're in the no man's land where you can't go 380 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: get the guy you want necessarily and you can't get 381 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: out of the spot you're in, and then you just 382 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: you just get stuck there. Do you You said fantasy? 383 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 1: Are you you pretty deep into it? Have you ever 384 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: heard of guillotine fantasy? 385 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 3: I'm in two guillotine leagues this season. 386 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 2: Isn't it it? 387 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: Like so I could never do fantasy because because I 388 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: just dislike too many teams. 389 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 2: It's just I'm so bad at it. 390 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: I should take this like, oh I'm not I pass 391 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 1: up a Packers wide receiver to just draft somebody horrific. 392 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 2: But the Guillotine league got me in. Man. 393 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: I just it is just this different beast that I 394 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: am obsessed with. 395 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 3: I love the format, still alive in both in both leagues, 396 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 3: they're very different leagues. One is kind of a mix 397 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 3: of entertainment industry types and a few like fantasy expert types. 398 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 3: There's a lot of carryover from the Dynasty League that 399 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 3: I'm in. And the other one is started by Michael Fabiano, 400 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 3: who is a fantasy expert guy, and it's kind of 401 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 3: a mix of like people that follow his show in 402 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 3: me and a couple of people that are on his show. 403 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 3: And it's it's interesting to sort of watch how different 404 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 3: fantasy players approach at because like Cabiano for example, for example, 405 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 3: burned through and he's honestly, he's like the best fantasy 406 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 3: player that I know, high stakes, week to week, guote 407 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 3: and you name it. He blew through his fab and 408 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 3: like the first I think three or four weeks, he 409 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 3: loaded up his squad and he just sat back and 410 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 3: and he's consistently been, you know, either first or second 411 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 3: in points every week. Obviously, the risk that comes along 412 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 3: with that are bye weeks and injuries you don't have 413 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 3: any money left, you know, Versus the people that are 414 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 3: kind of safely you know, maybe you know, nibbling here, 415 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 3: nibbling here, waiting for a specific player, and then you 416 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 3: got the people who go down and get chopped with 417 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 3: nine hundred and eighty dollars in the bank and you're like, well, 418 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 3: you you clearly didn't know you know, what we're doing here, 419 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 3: and and it's fun to kind of watch, you know, 420 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 3: people approach this. I think it's the newest format in 421 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 3: chantasy and try to figure it out. And it's I 422 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 3: love the idea that the stakes on a weekly basis 423 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 3: are as high as they can possibly get. 424 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, like being. 425 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 3: Part thirteenth movie, but you're you know, you're instead of 426 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 3: a character, you're a fantasy team. 427 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's amazing, and it eliminates that thing that 428 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: sucks about regular fantasy, which is, oh, some guy, Oh 429 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: we just didn't know that. You know, Romeo Dobbs was 430 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: going to be the best receiver in the league one 431 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 1: year and then all of a sudden, who ever drafted 432 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: and wins the league, you know, And and you have 433 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: the amount of people who will kind of give up 434 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: on the league a little bit if things don't go 435 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: totally right for them, and so I think it eliminates that. 436 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: And it's just you're exactly right, it's the highest stake 437 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: every single week. Let me ask you a fan experience question. 438 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: So you guys to announce a draft pick for the 439 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: Titans in twenty twenty two. So now we've been talking 440 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: long enough that I can see that thing between like 441 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: that's sitting behind your eyes. 442 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 2: That I also have. We're like, I'm a psycho, right, 443 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 2: and when they. 444 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: Let me near, Like I say this on the show 445 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: all the time, it's insane that this organization occasionally lets 446 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: me on the field without a spotter. What was it 447 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: like to do? I mean, that had to have been surreal. 448 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: And were you able to pull it together at the draft? 449 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: And have you had any other fan experiences where you're 450 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: just so close you're like, ah, don't get up, don't 451 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: say anything. 452 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 3: That was definitely the one. Then it was an interesting experience. 453 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 3: I put together a crew of my dudes, like three 454 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 3: dudes from high school, my best friend, and two other 455 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 3: great friends that I've held on too from the high 456 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 3: school years. We went to Vegas, which is where the 457 00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 3: draft was. I knew that Billy White Shee's Johnson was 458 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 3: was announcing the first round pick and we didn't have 459 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 3: a second round or so I was. I was supposed 460 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 3: to do rounds three till like the end. I was 461 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 3: like gonna be the utility draft announcer. I go and 462 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 3: do the third round pick, which is tackle Nicholas Petite. 463 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 2: Freer, Hall of Fame name, Hall of Fame. 464 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 3: Name has yet to perform like a hall of famer. 465 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 3: I feel guilty, like maybe if someone else could had 466 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 3: had read that draft card, he'd have a different career. 467 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 3: These are the kind of the kind of pressure that 468 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 3: I put on. 469 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 2: Myself that yeah, that's that's what happened. 470 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 3: But they give you a card that gives you the 471 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 3: name phonetically pronounced, so anytime you see someone butcher a 472 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 3: name at the NFL draft, there's zero excuse for that. 473 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 3: Like you, they tell you how to say it, They 474 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 3: put it on the card with its with a phonetic 475 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 3: spelling beneath it, and you go out there and all 476 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 3: you have to do is read off the card. But 477 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 3: then I thought I was doing all the other picks 478 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 3: and something got lost into translation. And the representative of 479 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 3: the NFL, which is a woman whose name escapes me, 480 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 3: but she she comes on every year and starts like 481 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 3: doing the filler picks, like when there's nobody there to 482 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 3: do them, Like God bless her. She comes out. She 483 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 3: has absolutely no like emotional awareness whatsoever. Like she reads 484 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 3: these cards like as if she's at the DMV asking 485 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 3: the next person to come up in line. And I 486 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 3: get there, ready to go, and it's the Malik Willis 487 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 3: pick and I see the card And at that point 488 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 3: we were all kind of excited about about hitting Malik Willis, 489 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 3: and I'm like, yo, I'm here, I'm I'm here. I 490 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 3: got it. She didn't want to give it up, dude. 491 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 3: This was this she like she presents as someone who's 492 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 3: like I am here to represent the NFL. I wish 493 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 3: that it was someone for every pick, but in the 494 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 3: event that there's not, I have to go out and 495 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 3: I have to do this. Then when I was like, yo, dude, 496 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 3: I got this, Nope, she wanted the Malik Willis. She 497 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 3: wanted it. 498 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you never. 499 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 3: Know to hear her say the words. So I just 500 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 3: went out there and like video bombed her while she's 501 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 3: doing it, Like I don't know if it made the coverage, 502 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 3: but I'm literally like dancing behind her on both sides 503 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 3: as she as she makes the pick, and then as 504 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 3: she walks off the stage. I rushed the mic to 505 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 3: be like we did it, tighten up, and it took 506 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 3: the microphone off on me. Treatment I did I suspect 507 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 3: that I might not be invited back to the NFL draft, 508 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 3: or maybe I'm giving myself like maybe I'm I'm giving 509 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 3: myself way too much credit. Like nobody even cared. But 510 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 3: I had the weird moment where it was like thumb 511 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 3: on one side, thumb on the other, Malik Willis card 512 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 3: in the middle, and like I got flexed on. 513 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there's there is just something about if you 514 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: are a real fan I like, and I think that's 515 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: a good thing. 516 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 2: I think. 517 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: You know, you've had a fantastic career and you've been acting. 518 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to say right out of school, but 519 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: you you've had a you know, you've had some success 520 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: early and it's been going on for a long time. 521 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: Did at any point, because you're clearly, you know, a 522 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: fan of a lot of older television and cinema and stuff, 523 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: At any point, did being on the set, seeing the 524 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: way it was made, you know, being really in the 525 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: guts of it, did it affect that childish love for 526 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: it at all? 527 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 3: I mean it was romantic. You know, I started my 528 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 3: career shooting on film. You know, it was it was 529 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 3: everything that I hoped it could be and more I 530 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,719 Speaker 3: got really lucky with my first couple of jobs, and 531 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 3: then Psych was the best job ever. There were very 532 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 3: few things that like, very few dreams that got shattered 533 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 3: by the actual mechanism of filmmaking. I mean, I knew 534 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 3: it was you had to be different than theaters, so 535 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 3: there was no comparison for me. I was ready to 536 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 3: accept a completely different experience and a completely different approach. 537 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean I love them both, but for 538 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 3: very different reasons. I I love theater because there's there 539 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 3: is no equivalent of you know, jumping out of a 540 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 3: plane without a parachute, you know, artistically. And I love 541 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 3: film because you know how much magic can be made, 542 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 3: and how collaborative of a process it is, and how 543 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 3: you know, you really kind of are only as strong 544 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 3: as your weakest link in that. And that's a completely 545 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 3: different medium. 546 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: That's that's amazing that you've been able to keep that 547 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: because when you when I kind of related to sports 548 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: like you, you obviously can carry that, like be that 549 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: way at the NFL draft, like being here on this 550 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: show and then being like I think it is I've 551 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: almost at this building. Had to keep a distance to 552 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: not learn too much, to not see too like I. 553 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 2: It has to. 554 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: It has to remain this escape, which I think for 555 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: everybody who's also on this show that you can't see 556 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: right now, Like you said, the whole collaborative. Everybody who's 557 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: paying attention to me right now is like, yeah, we 558 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: get it. You don't want to get close. You could 559 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: do a little more of the work that would be helpful, 560 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: but but it is, it is. It is pretty cool 561 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: to be at you know, my dad is that way 562 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: to be at that point in your life doing the 563 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: draft and still into it enough that hey, like I 564 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: always say, I'm not gonna let a sports event ruin 565 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: my life or my family life, or you know, you 566 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: get disappointed. But to still have that like joy, Yeah, 567 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,959 Speaker 1: to wanna to want to run out and hype up 568 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: a Malik Willis pick that you're not supposed to be 569 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: on the stage for that's great. 570 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, And and I still have the joy, and I 571 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 3: still have the hope. And I think where I've managed 572 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 3: to find some balance is you know, I don't, like 573 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 3: you said, I'm not down. My life is not over. 574 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 3: You know, we lose if we lose a bad game, 575 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 3: if we don't make the playoffs. You know, my best 576 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 3: friend who I grew up with, just walked in the 577 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 3: apartment and he remembers the days where I would, you know, 578 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 3: I would pout like a child we lost, and those 579 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 3: days are over. I'm too old for that. So I 580 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 3: feel like I'm invested in all the love of it, 581 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 3: and I you know, obviously a Titan super Bowl would 582 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 3: be a wonderful, wonderful gift for all of the fan 583 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 3: base and those of us that have suffered for so long. 584 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, I think sports 585 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 3: exist to lift us, not to squash us. So you know, 586 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 3: you roll with the punches. By the way, just for 587 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 3: the record, a good buddy of mine from college named 588 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 3: Wayne also just came into the apartment, and I didn't 589 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 3: want you to I didn't want him to think that 590 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 3: I was leaving him out by just mentioning my lifelong 591 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 3: best friend who goes all the way back to San 592 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 3: Antonio with me. There was just there was a moment 593 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 3: where I actually thought it, and then and then they 594 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 3: texted it to me, like, Hey, there's there's two of 595 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 3: us here. 596 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: There's two of us here, and I think it's important 597 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: just to be super clear to rank your best friends. 598 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well very specifically describe how they came into 599 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: your life and when, Thus they never lose that desire 600 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: and fire to appease you. 601 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 3: That's right. And these two both go way, way, way 602 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 3: way back. I mean high school and college are both 603 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 3: for me and a man of my age. Those are 604 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 3: old old friends. 605 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean one of them definitely older. 606 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 3: It sounds like one's a little ones. Well, one I've 607 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 3: known longer. But we're all the stream age, but only 608 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 3: one of us consistently pulls off garden gnome chic. And 609 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 3: I'll let let them know what I'm talking about. 610 00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: So dumb, I'm gonna make you do the thing everybody hates. 611 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: Maybe Wayne wants to pitch in. 612 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 3: Here's listening. 613 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: Oh thank God, give me a give me a prediction 614 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,479 Speaker 1: for this weekend. Give me a score prediction. I know 615 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: people hate that. Yeah, I don't mean to do it, 616 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: but give me a score prediction. 617 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 3: Well, it's an easy question for me because we score 618 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 3: seventeen every week, regardless of who we're playing or what 619 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 3: the spread is. So I'm going to say Titans seventeen, 620 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 3: Kings thirty one. 621 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 2: God, I'd love for you to be right, that's a 622 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 2: good score. 623 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 3: It's a get right game for you guys. I don't 624 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 3: know what happened against Jacksonville. This is going to be 625 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 3: a nice palette cleansing win. I think the Titans will 626 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 3: go up seven to nothing. 627 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: Okay, much like Wayne, they will come in late for 628 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: a victory. 629 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'll say that maybe we finished the 630 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,959 Speaker 3: half down seventeen ten something like that, and then we finished, 631 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 3: you know, we've finished the game. It'll be thirty one ten, 632 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 3: and then I'll say either Calvin Ridley or Nick Westbrook 633 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 3: Akini catches a absolutely meaningless, you know, touchdown late to 634 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 3: make it thirty one to fourteenth. 635 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: I'd really like this to be one of those water 636 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: Boy moments, you know, where the clock strikes and they 637 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: look over at Kathy Bates, who's correctly predicted the score. 638 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: I'd love to run this back next week. Dude, you're 639 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: the king. Thank you so much for doing this, all right, man, 640 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: go Mike's thanks again to James Rode Rodriguez for joining 641 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,439 Speaker 1: the show. 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