WEBVTT - Dr. Robert Cerfolio Returns!

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<v Speaker 1>This is me, Craig Ferguson. I'm inviting you to come

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<v Speaker 1>and see my brand new comedy hour. Well it's actually

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<v Speaker 1>it's about an hour and a half and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have an opener because these guys cost money. But what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying is I'll be on stage for a while. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>come and see me live on the Pants on Fire

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<v Speaker 1>Tour in your region. Tickets are on sale now, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be adding more as the tour continues throughout twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five and beyond. For a full list of dates,

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<v Speaker 1>go to the Craig Ferguson show dot com. See you

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<v Speaker 1>on the road, My DearS. My name is Craig Ferguson.

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<v Speaker 1>The name of this podcast is Joy. I talk to

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<v Speaker 1>interest in people about what brings them happiness. Today in

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast, one of my favorite guests of all time,

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<v Speaker 1>of all the shows I've done. Terrific man. I'm very interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're interested in your health or general health. I

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<v Speaker 1>think most people are, but you know, maybe you're but

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is just I just kind of good enough

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<v Speaker 1>of him. His name is doctor Wells, his name, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's his title. He's doctor Robert sirfolio John.

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<v Speaker 2>So listen. Here's the thing, Sheriff, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Are a record breaker today because you are the first

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<v Speaker 1>time I've had Is this a third time you've been on.

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<v Speaker 2>The show her time? That's a big honor for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm honored.

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<v Speaker 1>And listen and let me just say this the third

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<v Speaker 1>time on the show. But we remember the first time

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<v Speaker 1>we recorded, didn't record at all? How could I forget

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<v Speaker 1>fourth time? The fourth time? That's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the what's the deal with your head? Say? Are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you doing a lot of.

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<v Speaker 3>Robutics therect I'm an air traffic controller and I wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to get a drink of my water.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't want to get water on the thing. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the I'm going You made me think I want

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<v Speaker 2>to drink of water?

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<v Speaker 1>So what's the deal with when you do the theoretic surgery?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you do it thoracic? Thoracic like Thoracic park.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly instead of Jurassic it's thoracic. You're right, but I

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<v Speaker 3>love that analogy. You're right on it, man, So let

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<v Speaker 3>me ask you this.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you wear your little headset when you're doing it

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<v Speaker 1>and tell everybody they're what you're doing?

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<v Speaker 3>So when I have visitors that are remote, I do,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's awkward. When I scrub in, you have a headlight,

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<v Speaker 3>magnifying glasses and this. Then when I go to the road,

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<v Speaker 3>that should put the ports in and make the incisions.

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<v Speaker 3>Then when you leave the patient and you walk ten

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<v Speaker 3>or fifteen feet over and said at the da Vinci

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<v Speaker 3>console where you're looking through the box and moving your hands,

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<v Speaker 3>then I just have this thing on, but it's more

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<v Speaker 3>comfortable than the one that they gave me today.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to me about it. What's the da Vinci console?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I think you know, I of course know what

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<v Speaker 1>it is, but many people will know what dvin No,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent right. I mean people still don't get it.

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<v Speaker 3>So when we say we do robotic surgery, what that

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<v Speaker 3>means is first we're scrubbed in like doctors with gloves

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<v Speaker 3>and a mass standing over the patient. We make three

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<v Speaker 3>or four little incisions, put tiny instruments in, like through

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<v Speaker 3>a little probe, and then the instruments go inside of

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<v Speaker 3>that and then there's this giant contraption that comes rolls

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<v Speaker 3>over the patient and gets attached to those arms. That's

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<v Speaker 3>the robot. But we don't operate that from the operating

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<v Speaker 3>room table. We then leave the table, We take our

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<v Speaker 3>gown off, our gloves off, we go sit in the

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<v Speaker 3>chair and we look in this giant box and we're

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<v Speaker 3>sitting looking in this monitor, this immersive world, and what

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<v Speaker 3>I love about it. Actually, I was giving a lecture

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<v Speaker 3>last night and they say, where I'm the happiest. I said,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm I'm happiest you know in a very

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<v Speaker 3>competitive pickleball match or a great golf match, when I'm

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<v Speaker 3>doing well or teaching or educating or putting an impact

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<v Speaker 3>on the world, or when I'm submerged underwater scuba diving

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<v Speaker 3>in the robotic console. Because what it's like is you

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<v Speaker 3>become miniaturized and they drop you inside the chest in

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<v Speaker 3>my case, or the belly if you're a belly surgeon.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm now looking in this console. My head is

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<v Speaker 3>in this thing three D. I'm looking through this classes.

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<v Speaker 3>I can move my hands, I can move my feet.

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<v Speaker 3>There's six pedal for my feet, there's a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>pedals for my hands. And as I move those instruments

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<v Speaker 3>that we put in through those little tiny sticks, they

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<v Speaker 3>move and they are a mimic to our hand motion,

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<v Speaker 3>So the surgeon's doing the operation, not the robot. But

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<v Speaker 3>the robot allows you to shrink your hands down to

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<v Speaker 3>these tiny little one sonometer or half an inch instruments

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<v Speaker 3>instead of your big ugly mits in there where you're

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<v Speaker 3>making big decisions and spreading the ribs or cutting the muscle.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's minimally invasive. So that's how it works. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing to me because I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>remember when you were a kid you and died of

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<v Speaker 1>the savings. You remember a movie called Fantastic Voyage with

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<v Speaker 1>Raquel Welch in it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm forget Raquel Welsh in that outfit my gosh, right, So.

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<v Speaker 1>Raquel Welson Fantastic Voyage where there's a roulebot scientist or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that, and they have to shrink they shrinkle

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<v Speaker 1>sales down into a little spaceship and then they go

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<v Speaker 1>into the guy's bloodstream and they sort it out.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly what it's like.

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<v Speaker 3>But they of course are really small and they're interest inside.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember they the way they got out was through the

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<v Speaker 3>lymphatic system.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember there was the arteries in venus and they went

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<v Speaker 2>in the lymphatic See.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was a that was a script there.

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<v Speaker 1>They should have come out with the corooper. I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>get into the digestive tract, get your little spaceship. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>there's been times when I felt like I've had a spaceship,

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<v Speaker 1>my digestive tract, and you get into the intestinent note

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<v Speaker 1>you come and on the way out, quick colonoscopy.

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<v Speaker 2>Not to mention.

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<v Speaker 3>And then it's very appropriate that they end up in

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<v Speaker 3>the excrement, giving you know.

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<v Speaker 2>How how the end of that movie had.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, you're exactly the problem with that is, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>if they get in the l any type of the

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<v Speaker 3>GI track, they create a hole that they have to

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<v Speaker 3>seal on their way in. So that was one of

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<v Speaker 3>the tables. That's why they went through the ear if

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<v Speaker 3>you remember. But what a fantastic movie.

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<v Speaker 2>What a fantastic I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that it was. Actually it was so

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<v Speaker 1>I could do you ever? You know, I met Raquel

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<v Speaker 1>Wells a couple of times. She was on my old

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<v Speaker 1>late night show. Really yeah, now for you and I

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<v Speaker 1>your generation to get to meet Raquel web So. But

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<v Speaker 1>here it gets even better. So she knew I was

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<v Speaker 1>very excited to meet her. So the crew at my show.

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<v Speaker 1>They got a giant poster of you know, the poster

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<v Speaker 1>of her wearing the fur bikini and a million.

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<v Speaker 3>You say it was in the fur bikini and what

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<v Speaker 3>movie was that? It was one million.

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<v Speaker 2>Years BC, that was it. Yeah, so she's in.

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<v Speaker 1>The fur bikini and she's she wrote on it and

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<v Speaker 1>she said, share Craig because she she liked to speak friends.

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<v Speaker 1>She said, share Craig. I could I remember, because I've

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<v Speaker 1>still got the poster, Share Craig. You can visit my

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<v Speaker 1>cave anytime I remember to wear your kill love Raquel.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, that would be like it was.

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<v Speaker 1>She was.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the everybody had a poster or when I was

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<v Speaker 3>a kid, she was unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was that was.

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<v Speaker 1>Is she still alive and how well she? Sadly she

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<v Speaker 1>passed a year or two ago. I think I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know for sure, but I think she had trouble with

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<v Speaker 1>Alzheimer's or dementia or something that it was. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really know the difference, to be honest. Well, maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>could tell me what is the difference between Alzheimer's and dementia.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there's a there's a pretty pretty big difference, actually,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean Alzheimer's. One type of dementia is a more

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<v Speaker 3>general term of which there are specific types.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, so dementia is like a blanket term,

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<v Speaker 1>like like like cancer maybe like kind of there's so

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<v Speaker 1>many different cancers, but it's a type of cancer.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like dementia where you and I are headed.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a general term that we could have fought.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't know why you have to say that,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's not necessarily going to Somebody asked me what

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<v Speaker 1>A buddy of mine asked me once. He said, when

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<v Speaker 1>you get older, what do you want to go the

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<v Speaker 1>plumbing or the or the upstairs, not like definitely upstairs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>oh you do, well, no thing upstairs, because then if

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<v Speaker 1>I my upstairs goes, that somebody else's problem.

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<v Speaker 2>If the plumbing goes, that's my problem, that's vegan.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's interesting how we because I think of somebody

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<v Speaker 3>else's problem. The last thing I want to do is

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<v Speaker 3>do that to my my three boys. Remember my three

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<v Speaker 3>boys lost their mom. The last thing do a hard

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<v Speaker 3>thing with me. So I'm like, listen, if that happens,

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<v Speaker 3>we go on a cruise, and I just happened to

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<v Speaker 3>slip off that top part of the oh yeah, the

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<v Speaker 3>little outdoor thing, and I'm gone and don't tell anybody

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<v Speaker 3>for like the next day, and then don't worry about it, no,

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<v Speaker 3>because that's terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>My deal I have with my wife is is that

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<v Speaker 1>you get me, get me into some kind of situation

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm on a drip, like some kind of parcacet

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<v Speaker 1>propfol drip, and just like just hit that thing every

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<v Speaker 1>hour on there and put and put movies on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The only the only problem with that is there's a

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<v Speaker 3>medical record that leads to that could get her in trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the cruise is much safer for you. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I get well. Look see here's the thing now.

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<v Speaker 1>I go for my annual physical yesterday, so it was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of yeah, so you know what, it's two years

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<v Speaker 1>since I had a physical.

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<v Speaker 2>But well, you're so healthy. That's all you need. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at you. You look you look like you're forty

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<v Speaker 2>five years old.

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<v Speaker 3>You look great, you look you look even healthier this

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<v Speaker 3>time than I think the last. Maybe because it's we're

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<v Speaker 3>not together, but you look. No, I tell you what

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<v Speaker 3>it is, my friend, I lost weight.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew it.

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<v Speaker 3>I could tell I bet you lost about twenty pounds, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's as much as that, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot. I mean what I did was I

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<v Speaker 1>recorded a stand up special and then I went to

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<v Speaker 1>the edit for the stand up special.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, who the fuck is that guy? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I was like, oh my god, I

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<v Speaker 1>know the special is out now when people are like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my got eling some fat and I got I

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<v Speaker 1>go fah, I just I just I just stopped exercising

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<v Speaker 1>and I just kind of like wasn't paying attention to

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<v Speaker 1>the food. And yeah, bol because it happens much quicker now,

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing now that I'm older. No, So

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<v Speaker 1>I know question like, yeah, I just like I'm back

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<v Speaker 1>on it. I'm walking and running every day, I'm doing calistanis.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like trying to lay off the candy and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's much harder than it used to be to

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<v Speaker 1>get in shape, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Because we're sixty. Yeah, because we're sixty.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I'm so you know, I don't even have

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<v Speaker 3>a glass of wine at dinner anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Last year, I'm like, I don't need it.

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<v Speaker 3>I sleep better without it, and I don't need the

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<v Speaker 3>calories because I literally affects my sleep, and I can

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<v Speaker 3>notice that I'm up a pound or two because I

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<v Speaker 3>weigh myself twice a day because I'm crazy. But I

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<v Speaker 3>think you're right. It's part of being sixty, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I'm totally into the health thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. I'm not about exercising and all that. It's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you are right, but the show is look

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<v Speaker 2>at you. I mean you, I mean you. You appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Fantastic shape, I mean, I appreciate that. Now, let me

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<v Speaker 1>just say this. So I go for my annual physical

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm talking to the dogs. It's a new doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I knew I moved back to New York. So

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<v Speaker 1>I go, I get a new doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>You know me.

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<v Speaker 3>We're happy to have you back in the city where

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<v Speaker 3>which is your home, where we love you.

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<v Speaker 2>So thank you for coming back. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the greatest city in the world. And anybody that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't agree with me, you know, they don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>come here. So I agree it. So I I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>to my doctor.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I like a doctor, especially for a general practitioner.

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<v Speaker 1>I had like a big city doctor with slim fingers.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. I'm I'm talking to him

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<v Speaker 2>about that.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, you know, the first exam said that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to go away soon, that's going to go away.

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<v Speaker 3>You could just say you don't want to just get

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<v Speaker 3>a digital rectal ultrasound or a p s A or

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<v Speaker 3>an MRI of the prostate and say the last two

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<v Speaker 3>times I said, listen, I don't want a digital record exam.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm out, you're not doing it. You can do that. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I you know, I don't know about you, man, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>miss it, of course not.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, no, man, I'm like, you know, it's for me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a bit like vinyl, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's not necessary anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, but you kind of like today, I

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<v Speaker 2>tell you a quick story.

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<v Speaker 3>So when you're a medical student, you have to pair

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<v Speaker 3>off with another medical a male student. Of course, the

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<v Speaker 3>men got the there was female medical students. They had

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<v Speaker 3>to do it to the man obviously, and you know

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<v Speaker 3>and advice.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, it's the day. Yeah, exactly right.

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<v Speaker 3>So to make a long story short, when I went

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<v Speaker 3>into the room with the other guy said, I said, listen,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just going to skip it. If you agreed to

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<v Speaker 3>skipping it, I'll skip mine if you skip yours.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, yes, so we did. So I never had one.

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<v Speaker 3>So about five years ago I had to get this

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<v Speaker 3>executive physical and I go see a doctor here in

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<v Speaker 3>New York where I work, and he goes, you need

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<v Speaker 3>a digital rector. I said, listen, bro, I've never had one.

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<v Speaker 3>He says, well, then you rover du And I said, no,

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<v Speaker 3>you can do an MRI I and you can do

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<v Speaker 3>a PSA of the blood and I'll take it. And

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<v Speaker 3>he said, and you need a digital rectal exam as well.

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<v Speaker 3>He was so insistent. And then he said, you know

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<v Speaker 3>you're not listening. You're being a typical doctor who's a

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<v Speaker 3>bad patient. I said, okay, fine, so I've had one

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<v Speaker 3>in my lifetime and that will be the last one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I don't know. I mean, look as things that.

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<v Speaker 1>Can happen to you and the doctor's office, a digital

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<v Speaker 1>regal exam, it's kind of like a night in the eighties.

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<v Speaker 2>As smart as I'm concerned. It was like, it's no

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<v Speaker 2>big deal, but the but the I've never heard it

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<v Speaker 2>express that way, Craig, but I love it. I may

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<v Speaker 2>I may use that line and my lecture.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we all live differently in well, I live

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<v Speaker 1>differently in those. But let me ask you this, then,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're doing an MRI of uh, the procepct of

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<v Speaker 1>the prostate isn't the MR isn't that radiation?

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that MRIs have no radiation.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the advantage to MRIs no radio and and the

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<v Speaker 3>CAT scan that has some radiation. Like like I'm I've

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<v Speaker 3>flown to the Bahamas the last couple of weekends. I

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<v Speaker 3>got probably more radiation on that flight three and a

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<v Speaker 3>half hour flight there and back. Then I do get

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<v Speaker 3>in a CAT scan without contrast or a chest X ray.

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<v Speaker 3>So yes, there's chest X rays and there, and there's

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<v Speaker 3>cat scans, and there's cat scans with contrast, and there's

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<v Speaker 3>a PET scan has a lot more radiation, but the

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<v Speaker 3>amount of radiation is negligible. And when patients ask those questions,

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<v Speaker 3>we say, we're doing this to either you have cancer

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<v Speaker 3>and we're following you or surveying you, or we're working

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<v Speaker 3>you up for cancer. That's a much higher risk to

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<v Speaker 3>your life than the minuscule amount of radiation that you're

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<v Speaker 3>getting on the scan. Yeah, so don't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, this is Greig Ferguson, and I want to let

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<v Speaker 1>you know I have a brand new stand up company

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<v Speaker 2>So what's the special?

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<v Speaker 1>Just go to my YouTube channel at the Greig Verguson

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<v Speaker 1>Show and is this right there? Just click it and

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<v Speaker 1>play it and it's free. I can't look. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to come round your husband and show you how

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. If you can't do it, then you

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<v Speaker 1>can't have it. But if you can figure it out,

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<v Speaker 1>it's yours. So let me ask you this. Then, because

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<v Speaker 1>they got a new doctor, so I got to run

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<v Speaker 1>on list. You're my second opinion guy right.

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<v Speaker 2>You know you might go to.

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<v Speaker 3>Guy right, and my price is right for the second.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say, I wish I hadn't said that,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're telling me what I'm worth, so it's appropriate,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's not really a second opinion. But you said

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<v Speaker 1>to me, look, we're going to look at your cholesterol

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<v Speaker 1>and as a whole new blood panel. He said, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're in your early sixties, so I want to

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<v Speaker 1>do a calcium calcium scoring study.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was going to suggest that you get one,

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<v Speaker 3>you should get one of your heart to look at

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<v Speaker 3>calcium in your the epicardium, the outside of your heart,

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure you don't have coronary artery disease. As

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<v Speaker 3>opposed to getting a CAF where they stuck a catherine

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<v Speaker 3>you're growing at your wrists and they put a cather

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<v Speaker 3>up and then they inject contrast and they look at

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<v Speaker 3>your ye really would.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I'd prefer not to have That's like, that's not

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<v Speaker 4>a big deal. But that's a little bit invasive. It's

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<v Speaker 4>a little nick in your artery. But you're right, you

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<v Speaker 4>don't want it. And the calcium scoring stuff hopefully.

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<v Speaker 2>Yours was zero. I don't know. Yeah, I haven't had

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<v Speaker 2>it yet. Oh yeah, I had mine six months ago.

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<v Speaker 2>It was zero, which was good.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you know, what when does it get to

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<v Speaker 1>be a problem if you have what do they do

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<v Speaker 1>if they find calcium on the outside of your heart?

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<v Speaker 2>What are you are their drugs? Yeah, typical doctor, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we always give an answer.

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<v Speaker 3>It depends. I mean, it depends on your family history.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're overweight, if you have hypertension, all these other

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<v Speaker 3>if you're symptomatic, do you get chest pain, if you do,

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<v Speaker 3>then you're going to get a cath.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're going to buy a cath if that happens.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're asymptomatic and don't have any risk factors and

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<v Speaker 3>it's fifty, you're probably okay.

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<v Speaker 2>But if the.

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<v Speaker 3>Score is a thousand or two thousand or something, then

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to get a cardiac cath, which is what

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<v Speaker 3>I just described a minute ago.

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<v Speaker 4>What is a cardiac cat Yeah, they used to put

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<v Speaker 4>it in the groin and put a ca up. Now

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<v Speaker 4>we do them in the wrist, and we put a

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<v Speaker 4>little tidy cather up the artery and it goes retrograde,

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<v Speaker 4>opposite of how the blood flow goes right down to

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<v Speaker 4>your A order and right off the very proximal part

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<v Speaker 4>of the order. Two little orifice, two little openings that

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<v Speaker 4>carry your right and left coronary artery, assuming you don't

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<v Speaker 4>have congenital heart disease, and a lot of people do

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<v Speaker 4>and don't know it. But let's say you're normal, and

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<v Speaker 4>they put a little catheter in that and they shoot contrast,

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<v Speaker 4>and then it shows all of the arteries. The left

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<v Speaker 4>sided artery that has a couple of big ranches ones

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<v Speaker 4>called the lad ones, calls the up to marginal et

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<v Speaker 4>cetera in these other branches. And then on the right

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<v Speaker 4>side you have a right coronary artery that usually supplies

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<v Speaker 4>your sinus, the sinus node, which runs the rhythm of

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<v Speaker 4>your heart. So they look at the left and the

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<v Speaker 4>right arteries of the heart and make sure that there

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<v Speaker 4>aren't blockages that are seventy percent or greater. If they're

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<v Speaker 4>seventy percent or greater, then you might need either a stent,

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<v Speaker 4>which they can do right through this little incision, or

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<v Speaker 4>if you have two or three arteries that are blocked,

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<v Speaker 4>then you need a bypass.

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<v Speaker 3>Operation, which is what you know. I'm a cardiothoracic surgeon.

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<v Speaker 3>I do the thoracic part. My partners do the cardiac part.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's what we do in this department every day.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds like like, now, I wasn't really bold about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but now I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of scared about it a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, don't be because it's just a screening study,

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<v Speaker 3>and chances are high, and you've lost weight, you're exercising,

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<v Speaker 3>you have no pain with exercise, so chances are and

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<v Speaker 3>you have no family.

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<v Speaker 2>History of heart disease in your family. Do you nobody lives.

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<v Speaker 1>Long enough in my family a heart attack to bus drinking, right,

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<v Speaker 1>they die of alcohol or food related cancer.

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<v Speaker 3>Fork of fork and hand related disease. I call it

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<v Speaker 3>fork in hand, the hand, the fort.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's interesting because I was talking about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because my dad, I know, you know I told you

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<v Speaker 1>to my dad, self guilt cancer. Yeah, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>getting things I operate on, right, So I was talking

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<v Speaker 1>to my doctor about it and I said, is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think? And and he's because what happened

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<v Speaker 1>was I remember I told you this. I was getting

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<v Speaker 1>you know, pretty intense uh indigestion like heartburn and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I had it screened and they found selfais, no barrets,

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<v Speaker 1>but some kind of a selfhagitis and some kind of information.

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<v Speaker 1>And I went on those uh prevaced things, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the omnioprazole or something like.

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<v Speaker 3>That, empprasol, mipersol. Yeah, it's great.

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<v Speaker 2>I went on it.

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<v Speaker 1>I went on it for a for about I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was seven or eight months.

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<v Speaker 2>I was on it, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I got second screening and it all going away,

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<v Speaker 1>but I still got reflux.

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<v Speaker 2>So what I started to do is like that's when

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<v Speaker 2>I really changed.

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<v Speaker 1>I dropped the weight and stuff like that, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's the weight, man, I think.

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<v Speaker 3>It's one hundred percent the weight. And I'm sure he

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<v Speaker 3>told you that. So the ammprasol just produces the acid production.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh And but if you lose weight, you'll have much

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<v Speaker 3>less reflex for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's great.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing to me because I I mean, I put

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<v Speaker 1>on wait, but I wasn't like nobody was going to

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<v Speaker 1>who's that?

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<v Speaker 2>Five? Guy said me, But you don't need to have

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<v Speaker 2>that much Apparently, you know you can.

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<v Speaker 3>There's just you could just gain ten or fifteen pounds

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<v Speaker 3>and all of a sudden start to reflux. And as

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<v Speaker 3>we get older, you know, you're more likely to reflux.

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<v Speaker 3>And here's the important thing for your listeners. And I'm

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<v Speaker 3>sure they're not listening for medical advice, but if they are,

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<v Speaker 3>thirty or forty percent of people who reflux are asymptomatic,

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<v Speaker 3>meaning you know, they think they have sleep apne or

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<v Speaker 3>they don't sleep well, or they have stenosis of their windpipe,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's because they're refluxing and they don't know it.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's one of the things that we look for

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<v Speaker 3>when people have these other symptomatologies. They get recurrent pneumonias

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<v Speaker 3>and we don't know why. Well, at night day lie

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<v Speaker 3>flat food comes up. It goes down the wrong pipe

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<v Speaker 3>into the lung, usually on the right lower low because

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<v Speaker 3>of the structure of the anatomy of the bronchus, and

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<v Speaker 3>they get right lower lobe pneumonia's and as they've been

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<v Speaker 3>refluxing and asperating at night when they sleep, or a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people sleep, apnea is related to reflux and

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<v Speaker 3>they don't know it. You know, they wake up because

0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:56.440
<v Speaker 3>there's a little bit of acid in the back of

0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:56.920
<v Speaker 3>their mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so weird to me because I kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>for something as I mean, I'm very kind of sensitive

0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:09.239
<v Speaker 1>too because my father and his story. But you know

0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:13.639
<v Speaker 1>the fact that people can be experiencing that and not

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<v Speaker 1>even know because they think it's something else. I mean,

0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:19.919
<v Speaker 1>it's like you know that thing. I'm sure you know this.

0:21:20.160 --> 0:21:24.720
<v Speaker 1>Hippocrates who said I heard of it. Yeah, Let food

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<v Speaker 1>be thy medicine is what he said. That was one

0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:30.440
<v Speaker 1>of his things. Let food be thy medicine. And i'd

0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:34.800
<v Speaker 1>historical wisdom. You have all this wisdom of some history.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a history buff. I have a history buff I

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<v Speaker 1>do like I do like the ancient Greeks. I have

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<v Speaker 1>to say, I'm interested in them. But I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what they didn't have. He didn't have antibiotics.

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<v Speaker 3>No, they didn't have that. And they didn't have morphine.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what though, I heard this thing about

0:21:56.840 --> 0:21:59.360
<v Speaker 1>ancient Egyptians, like you know how they used to wear

0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:02.159
<v Speaker 1>the black high makeup right, yes, yeah, it's because of

0:22:02.200 --> 0:22:06.640
<v Speaker 1>the sand right right, right right, and what like football players.

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<v Speaker 1>But also what they had in ancient Egypt is that

0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:15.399
<v Speaker 1>they had severe dental pain because sand gets everywhere and

0:22:15.480 --> 0:22:18.400
<v Speaker 1>they and the bread, and the bread would grind other things.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what opened up the trade route the opium

0:22:21.720 --> 0:22:26.760
<v Speaker 1>root from China to ancient Egypt, because opium was the

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<v Speaker 1>new wonder drug that was coming in from oh in

0:22:31.440 --> 0:22:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Afghanistan was now Afghanistan.

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<v Speaker 2>But I guess I do something else.

0:22:35.400 --> 0:22:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Then he's a minor and all that stuff, and that's

0:22:38.240 --> 0:22:40.400
<v Speaker 1>these trades out of them, because the Egyptians would buy

0:22:40.400 --> 0:22:42.080
<v Speaker 1>as much opium as they could get.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course because of the dental pain. So what I'm

0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:49.960
<v Speaker 2>saying is well, and of course they didn't take care

0:22:49.960 --> 0:22:50.480
<v Speaker 2>of their teeth.

0:22:50.560 --> 0:22:53.679
<v Speaker 3>They didn't really understand, you know, the importance of it

0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:54.679
<v Speaker 3>or have the skill.

0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:56.840
<v Speaker 2>It probably had a lack of floid.

0:22:56.840 --> 0:22:58.399
<v Speaker 3>We don't want to talk about fluoride with all the

0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:00.919
<v Speaker 3>political controversy of florid right now, But they didn't have

0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:04.080
<v Speaker 3>that when they were younger, which was clearly needed, et cetera. Yeah,

0:23:04.080 --> 0:23:07.159
<v Speaker 3>and you know, dental infections led to a lot of

0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:09.399
<v Speaker 3>heart disease in those days.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I was a heart lung surgeon. We

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<v Speaker 2>have it.

0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:14.720
<v Speaker 3>There's a thing called endocarditis, which is infection on your

0:23:14.720 --> 0:23:17.639
<v Speaker 3>heart valve, often from infections in your teeth.

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<v Speaker 2>Bad.

0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:22.360
<v Speaker 1>That's where that's why I heard that the plaque in

0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:24.119
<v Speaker 1>your archeries, it's just the same.

0:23:24.160 --> 0:23:26.320
<v Speaker 2>Plaque is like plaque on your teeth, right, it's the

0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:28.000
<v Speaker 2>same ship Well.

0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:30.720
<v Speaker 3>That's a little little different, but it's it's a little

0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:32.840
<v Speaker 3>bit different, but I think it does similar damage.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's put it that way.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's funny that because when I grew I

0:23:38.960 --> 0:23:41.600
<v Speaker 1>mean famously, I think it's bare no, But the UK

0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:44.159
<v Speaker 1>was bad. Scotland particular when I was a kid, was

0:23:44.200 --> 0:23:47.000
<v Speaker 1>bad for dental care is bad, terrible, terrible, and they

0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:54.359
<v Speaker 1>have this huge, you know problem with uh heart and

0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:59.320
<v Speaker 1>lung problems the US, and I think that was smoking.

0:23:59.840 --> 0:24:02.160
<v Speaker 3>It's got better, yeah, and the dental care has gotten

0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:03.480
<v Speaker 3>much better for sure.

0:24:03.520 --> 0:24:05.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But the was it?

0:24:05.440 --> 0:24:07.399
<v Speaker 1>I could I don't think it was Apocrates who said this,

0:24:07.440 --> 0:24:10.040
<v Speaker 1>but I have heard this phrase. Death enters the body

0:24:10.080 --> 0:24:11.760
<v Speaker 1>through the mouth of the anus.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh. That's that's how it gets in. Who the hell

0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:20.600
<v Speaker 2>said that? I don't know, but I I maybe maybe

0:24:21.280 --> 0:24:23.600
<v Speaker 2>I see it. Maybe the mouth I can see, but

0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:24.560
<v Speaker 2>the anus.

0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:28.119
<v Speaker 1>Well, but the rise in cool on concerts with the

0:24:28.160 --> 0:24:29.480
<v Speaker 1>young people, I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>That doesn't come from the anus.

0:24:31.720 --> 0:24:35.240
<v Speaker 3>That comes from and the colon comes from epithelial changes

0:24:35.280 --> 0:24:40.240
<v Speaker 3>inside the lining of the colon, coming from the ass

0:24:40.240 --> 0:24:40.720
<v Speaker 3>going up.

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<v Speaker 2>That's starting off. Well, you say that it could be

0:24:44.560 --> 0:24:46.240
<v Speaker 2>rising damp. Do you know what I mean?

0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:51.200
<v Speaker 1>It could it be like but let's let's talk a

0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:55.199
<v Speaker 1>little bit about that, because what is the uh do

0:24:55.280 --> 0:24:58.960
<v Speaker 1>you have any kind of opinion or take on this

0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:02.720
<v Speaker 1>or is it even true that there is a huge

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<v Speaker 1>rise in gastro intestinal cancers and young people colon concer

0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:07.920
<v Speaker 1>in particular.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, yeah, so we've got to be a little

0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:13.760
<v Speaker 3>bit careful about incidents and discovery. So you know what

0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:16.359
<v Speaker 3>I mean by that is, now we're doing a lot

0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:20.440
<v Speaker 3>more colonoscopies on people we would never do before. We're

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:25.440
<v Speaker 3>doing more cat scans, and we're discovering things and asymptomatic

0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:28.919
<v Speaker 3>patients and much more asymptomatic patents are getting screened. And

0:25:28.960 --> 0:25:32.360
<v Speaker 3>we're also much better identifying a genetic group of patients

0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:35.960
<v Speaker 3>who are predisposed to this because of either they have

0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 3>an autosomal dominant or some sort of genetic disorder or

0:25:39.080 --> 0:25:40.720
<v Speaker 3>a family history that puts them at risk.

0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:42.879
<v Speaker 2>And so we're finding more of it.

0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:45.679
<v Speaker 3>So does that mean that there is a greater incidence

0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:48.680
<v Speaker 3>in the population or we're just better at discovering it now.

0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:52.320
<v Speaker 2>So I think it's probably multifactorial.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So better call them, may have better call them?

0:25:53.920 --> 0:25:57.600
<v Speaker 1>B right, Yeah, incorrect is there? I mean, you know

0:25:57.680 --> 0:26:01.560
<v Speaker 1>everybody talks particularly cancols. You talk about Alli detection, AARI detection,

0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:02.360
<v Speaker 1>early detection.

0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:05.399
<v Speaker 3>I mean, and it makes a huge difference, enormous difference.

0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:09.000
<v Speaker 3>That's really night and day. I mean, look at lung cancer.

0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:12.199
<v Speaker 3>Twenty years ago. You see, everybody was stage three disease

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:15.400
<v Speaker 3>and twenty or thirty percent were alive. In five years now,

0:26:15.520 --> 0:26:17.680
<v Speaker 3>ninety percent of the people I see are stage one

0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:20.240
<v Speaker 3>disease and I operate and take the lung cancer out.

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:23.040
<v Speaker 3>In ninety five percent are alive at five years. The

0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:26.400
<v Speaker 3>practice is completely shifted in my lifetime.

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<v Speaker 1>The friend of mine actually just had a cancer and

0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:32.159
<v Speaker 1>he went through I don't know exactly which one it

0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:34.480
<v Speaker 1>was because he's kind of like didn't really want to

0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:38.600
<v Speaker 1>talk about it, but he had an operation to remove

0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:43.320
<v Speaker 1>the tumor and then went on a course of chemotherapy. Yep,

0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:46.359
<v Speaker 1>Now what's that if you remove the trumor, what's the

0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:47.439
<v Speaker 1>deal with the chemo therapy.

0:26:47.600 --> 0:26:49.959
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so it depends and it would be nice to

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:52.840
<v Speaker 3>know the specific cancer. So I'll just talk about lung cancer.

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:56.000
<v Speaker 3>So the majority of our lung cancer patients don't get

0:26:56.080 --> 0:26:58.119
<v Speaker 3>temo because we see them in stage one. But if

0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:02.360
<v Speaker 3>there's stage two or three, they get chemo first, which

0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:06.440
<v Speaker 3>we call neo adjivate neo before so they do neo

0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:10.119
<v Speaker 3>adjivant chemo, then we do surgery, and then they often

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:14.320
<v Speaker 3>get chemo afterwards. But to make a long, very long

0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:17.679
<v Speaker 3>complicated answer very short, if the tumor is over a

0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 3>certain size, it's a predictor that could be microscopic cells

0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:23.439
<v Speaker 3>in the blood even if we don't see it, even

0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:26.280
<v Speaker 3>if the pet scan and cats get says, hey, livers clean,

0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:30.919
<v Speaker 3>brains clean, everything looks great. We sometimes give chemo or

0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:32.480
<v Speaker 3>if it's in a lymph node. So if it goes

0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 3>to one of the lymph nodes that we as surgeons

0:27:34.600 --> 0:27:37.679
<v Speaker 3>remove routinely and make sure the patient's out there. If

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:39.879
<v Speaker 3>they're getting lung cancer surgery, they go to a real

0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:43.359
<v Speaker 3>surgeon who takes out noes. We take out twenty thirty

0:27:43.400 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 3>sometimes forty lymphntes. If the lymphnotes just have one lymph

0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:50.159
<v Speaker 3>note has cancered out of forty, that's an indication to

0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 3>get chemo because it means there could be circulating tumor

0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:56.359
<v Speaker 3>cells in the blood and chemo just goes in the

0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:59.240
<v Speaker 3>blood and circulates in the ideas to kill it, but

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:01.119
<v Speaker 3>of course it kills your normal selves too.

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:04.080
<v Speaker 2>That's why you lose your hair. No, does that still happen?

0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:07.080
<v Speaker 1>Because he was talking about they got some kind of

0:28:07.200 --> 0:28:09.159
<v Speaker 1>cold yeah.

0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:12.000
<v Speaker 2>Hat thing or something they do. There's cold hat.

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:15.440
<v Speaker 3>It was just supposed to supposed to help the follicles

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:19.199
<v Speaker 3>resist that cellular death from the keymo one and it

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:22.320
<v Speaker 3>does work. So yeah, but in general people still lose

0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:24.439
<v Speaker 3>their hair and their hair thins. It depends even if

0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 3>they're wearing the cold cap all the time.

0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:28.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know.

0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:30.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean I think I might just wear the cold

0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:32.520
<v Speaker 1>cap even if I'm not getting keyboards, just in case.

0:28:32.560 --> 0:28:33.200
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:35.639
<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, I think in your case, it'd be

0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:37.480
<v Speaker 3>a nice story to explain to people why the hell

0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:38.080
<v Speaker 3>you're doing it.

0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 2>And then you got the beautiful locks and you.

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:43.320
<v Speaker 3>Got that nice You know, I've always wanted the little

0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:45.280
<v Speaker 3>I've had so many patients come to me and like,

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:47.960
<v Speaker 3>you're the doctor. I flew ind to see you. I said,

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:49.760
<v Speaker 3>I got a lot of gray hair. You gotta look.

0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:52.600
<v Speaker 3>But they want surgeons with gray hair. So I'm freaking

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:53.360
<v Speaker 3>jealous of that.

0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 2>That one. You gotta have the gray hair. That's what

0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:58.000
<v Speaker 2>I want.

0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:03.120
<v Speaker 1>I want my doctor to Luke like the first George.

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like me. Yeah, yeah, but I don't want to.

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:08.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't want it to be like me, though, Yeah,

0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:11.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to. I get it. But you see,

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:13.840
<v Speaker 2>the thing is, though I've noticed this about doctors.

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:16.800
<v Speaker 1>When you're we were a kid, I had ever saw

0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:19.520
<v Speaker 1>a doctor whatever, Keny. You know, see, a doctor would

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 1>break a leg or something. I don't care, I mean exactly,

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:24.960
<v Speaker 1>but now you know, I you know, when you get

0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:28.160
<v Speaker 1>to forty, I guess that's when it starts kinna, you know,

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:33.640
<v Speaker 1>bom and and all that, and yeah, you're right right.

0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 2>Well what are the barn and the man? Let's just

0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 2>go reach one the burt and what what did that reflect?

0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:41.200
<v Speaker 1>That that's the pro staggs on not because that's what

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was. And this is the colonoscopy, That's what.

0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:45.440
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was.

0:29:45.840 --> 0:29:48.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I wanted to make sure the audience knew exactly

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 3>the screening modalities that you were articulating the so A jointly.

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:56.479
<v Speaker 1>But but the thing is, I mean I was very

0:29:56.560 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 1>relieved that when I saw the size of the camera

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:01.560
<v Speaker 1>for the colon because I was used to working a

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 1>CBS at the time.

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:05.360
<v Speaker 2>The cameras were prey, but I thought, I don't need

0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, now, you swallow a capsule with a camera

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:12.240
<v Speaker 2>in it? Shut up? Is that true? No?

0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:12.560
<v Speaker 1>One?

0:30:13.600 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 2>And then when you you know, when.

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 3>The capsule comes out, it can it can give images

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 3>all the way through and then you just defecate it

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 3>out so they can get images with capsule or cameras.

0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 1>It really is fantastic voyage. Then it really is a

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:30.800
<v Speaker 1>fantastic vo. So you say that, and then what you

0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:32.720
<v Speaker 1>you do it poop and you send the poop the

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 1>snappy snaps and.

0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 2>They the images get sent. But yeah, I guess that's

0:30:37.000 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 2>the other way to do You could just filter.

0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:40.440
<v Speaker 3>Your stool and then just send it into that. I

0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 3>guess the camera studio down CBS. We don't quite do

0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:45.960
<v Speaker 3>it that way, but that's another way to do it.

0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 3>Does it transmit it from yes, your boy?

0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:51.120
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Yes, that's unbelievable, dude, that's insane.

0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's not it. I don't think that's even new. No,

0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:56.840
<v Speaker 3>I think that's been around and good. I'm gonna say

0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:58.640
<v Speaker 3>a decade. I might be wrong if any of your

0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:00.480
<v Speaker 3>listeners want to tell the truth.

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 2>But it's not that new. I had annoyed. Well, how

0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:06.120
<v Speaker 2>come I'm still getting the thing going up now?

0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:08.480
<v Speaker 3>Because it's not as good because think about it, it

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:10.400
<v Speaker 3>doesn't really look in all the you know, when you

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 3>put a doctor in the camera, we first of all,

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 3>we clean your colon out so we can see there's

0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 3>not all that fecal material and fluid.

0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 2>And this doesn't really do this too.

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:21.640
<v Speaker 3>We move the camera on and get really a much

0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 3>better look at each one and really inspect it much

0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 3>more carefully. But we can't get to the small bowl, right,

0:31:28.040 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 3>it's hard to put a scope. A scope can go

0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:32.200
<v Speaker 3>down in your mouth. Then you have like thirty feet

0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:34.200
<v Speaker 3>of loops of val You can't get through all that

0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:37.000
<v Speaker 3>with a scope. The colon you can look at. You

0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 3>can put a scope from the anus and go up

0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:43.000
<v Speaker 3>the you know, the rectum, the sigmoid colon, the acending

0:31:43.120 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 3>the transverse and the descending or excuse mean the descending

0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 3>transverse and a sending and get right to what's called

0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:50.840
<v Speaker 3>the ilio secal valve, and even look at some of

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 3>the ilium, which is the end of the small vowel.

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:55.400
<v Speaker 3>But you can't look at all the doum ju junum

0:31:55.480 --> 0:31:59.040
<v Speaker 3>and ilium they're way too long. So this little camera

0:31:59.160 --> 0:32:01.440
<v Speaker 3>can look for that in people are having bleeding to

0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 3>see if there's little lesions in the small bowel because

0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:05.480
<v Speaker 3>you can't scope.

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:08.320
<v Speaker 2>The entire small bow. So it has other indications.

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:18.080
<v Speaker 1>So what would you say that if anyone said to you,

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:24.680
<v Speaker 1>like someone between ages of fifty and seventy, said, if

0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 1>I can only have one test, one screening, what would

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 1>be get this.

0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:31.960
<v Speaker 2>If you don't get any of the nails, get this.

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:34.480
<v Speaker 3>It's an easy for me. It's a very easy answer.

0:32:34.520 --> 0:32:37.480
<v Speaker 3>It would be a full body CT scan or full

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 3>body MRI. And I like the CT, but people are

0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:44.080
<v Speaker 3>moving more towards the MRI. There's no radiation and stuff.

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:47.840
<v Speaker 3>But a CT scan of your chest, abdomen and pelvis

0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 3>gives us so much information. We're not looking at your thighs,

0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 3>your knees, your ankles, and you could include the brain,

0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:56.280
<v Speaker 3>but if you're cognitively with it, like I guess you

0:32:56.360 --> 0:32:58.680
<v Speaker 3>and I would just pass the mark that were cognitively

0:32:58.760 --> 0:32:58.920
<v Speaker 3>with it.

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:01.400
<v Speaker 2>They were just at the border line.

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 3>But you know, then there's you don't get much benefit

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:07.160
<v Speaker 3>of Skeff doing a brain scan, but a brain a

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 3>CT scan of neck, chest, abdomen, pelvis does. Even now

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 3>it's not blood work. The blood work is also needs

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:18.520
<v Speaker 3>to be augmented. But you said one test. I don't

0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 3>know if you give me both, but I would pick

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 3>the CT over the blood work.

0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 1>So does that I mean like that calcium thing I'm getting,

0:33:25.080 --> 0:33:26.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, that skin I'm getting in my heart, that

0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:29.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of routine thing, would that be included in that?

0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:33.120
<v Speaker 2>No, that's a very specific thing to look at coronary

0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 2>ardor disease. But let me tell you something interesting.

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:38.680
<v Speaker 3>So I had clinic on Tuesday, and I told you

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:41.600
<v Speaker 3>I had three people come from other countries. Two of

0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 3>the three had their lung nodule found in a calcium

0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:49.560
<v Speaker 3>scoring screening study. They're asymptomatic, they never smoked. These are

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:53.720
<v Speaker 3>very wealthy people getting there their executive calcium scoring study.

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:55.960
<v Speaker 3>And you would just look at parts the lung. You

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:57.760
<v Speaker 3>look like the right middle lobe and part of the

0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:00.080
<v Speaker 3>left upper lobe, and one had a nodule in the

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:01.880
<v Speaker 3>middle and one had a lodge on the upper lobe.

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:03.960
<v Speaker 2>And they both turned out to be lung cancer.

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:07.760
<v Speaker 3>So that screening study for the heart saved their life

0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:09.440
<v Speaker 3>and got their lung cancer reseected.

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:13.640
<v Speaker 2>We did their operation yesterday and they both went home today. Wow,

0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:16.960
<v Speaker 2>not fat. So it was a thoracic operation then right,

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:17.279
<v Speaker 2>it was.

0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:19.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I took out part of their lung. They went

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:20.719
<v Speaker 3>to see their heart doctor to make sure their heart

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:24.280
<v Speaker 3>was good. But that study which images the heart blows

0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:26.640
<v Speaker 3>the heart up, also looks at a small part of

0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:30.320
<v Speaker 3>the lung and happen to find lung nodules in that

0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:33.640
<v Speaker 3>small the just in the right middle lobe and then

0:34:33.719 --> 0:34:35.839
<v Speaker 3>the left upperlobe, which is when they look at the heart.

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:36.680
<v Speaker 2>The heart sits there.

0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:41.839
<v Speaker 3>And they both got their cancers discovered serendipitously on their

0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:43.919
<v Speaker 3>calcium screening study of their heart.

0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:45.719
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy.

0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:49.680
<v Speaker 1>That's that, you know what though, I mean, knowing all

0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:52.160
<v Speaker 1>the stuff you have, you know you know, and I

0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:54.440
<v Speaker 1>know you you know, we've talked quite a bit over

0:34:54.480 --> 0:34:59.040
<v Speaker 1>the past couple of years. Would I think I wouldn't

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:01.680
<v Speaker 1>sleep a wink at I think every time I feel

0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:03.000
<v Speaker 1>like sing.

0:35:03.320 --> 0:35:04.439
<v Speaker 2>I sleep like a rock.

0:35:05.719 --> 0:35:08.760
<v Speaker 3>Hey, because I hate that smart to worry b because

0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:10.240
<v Speaker 3>I got a pretty clean conscious.

0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:12.799
<v Speaker 2>And see, you know, I think if you just work

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:14.359
<v Speaker 2>out and eat well.

0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:16.960
<v Speaker 3>And I got to tell you, our society has it wrong,

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:19.440
<v Speaker 3>having these big late dinners like you go to Spain

0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 3>or you go to these other countries. They eat at

0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:24.520
<v Speaker 3>nine or ten. You shouldn't need after four or five o'clock.

0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:26.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean, really, even three or four. You should have

0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:30.400
<v Speaker 3>a pretty big breakfast, kind of skip lunch that have

0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:33.000
<v Speaker 3>something big at three or four, and then make sure

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 3>you're going to bed at like ten o'clock, say, on

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:38.239
<v Speaker 3>an empty stomach, so your body is sleeping and not

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 3>digesting food. But if you do those things, if everybody

0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:45.840
<v Speaker 3>gets aches and pains. I mean, I worked out on Sunday,

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:48.120
<v Speaker 3>I played an two hour pickleball match and I worked

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:48.719
<v Speaker 3>out for two hours.

0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:51.839
<v Speaker 2>That was sores hell Sunday night and Monday. But that's

0:35:51.920 --> 0:35:52.880
<v Speaker 2>not cancer related.

0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:55.320
<v Speaker 3>So I mean, I think everyone has aches and pains

0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:57.319
<v Speaker 3>when they wake up, especially when we get to our

0:35:57.400 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 3>age at sixty two six.

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:04.120
<v Speaker 1>Dude, man, I mean it's so funny that. I mean,

0:36:04.640 --> 0:36:07.120
<v Speaker 1>first of all, pick a ball. I mean, that's the

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:08.160
<v Speaker 1>new thing.

0:36:09.080 --> 0:36:10.399
<v Speaker 2>Singles pickleball is great.

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:13.560
<v Speaker 3>I played a young twenty nine year old young buck

0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:16.800
<v Speaker 3>and I finally beat them. The guy's great, but I

0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:18.480
<v Speaker 3>took it to him finally, but I was.

0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:21.880
<v Speaker 2>I was sore. Two hours of singles pickleball is brutal.

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:24.200
<v Speaker 2>What is pigg I don't pick a ball. It's pick

0:36:24.239 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 2>a ball like it's like tennis but with a tighty

0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:27.120
<v Speaker 2>little bat or something.

0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well it's not a bat exactly, but it's like,

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:34.160
<v Speaker 3>think of ping pong and make it bigger, and think

0:36:34.200 --> 0:36:36.640
<v Speaker 3>of tennis and make it smaller. So it's like standing

0:36:36.719 --> 0:36:39.040
<v Speaker 3>on a really big ping pong table, but you're in

0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:41.400
<v Speaker 3>singles you're running around. I mean my heart rate was

0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:45.239
<v Speaker 3>a median of one hundred and fifty two for like, uh,

0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:48.239
<v Speaker 3>I think this. In the middle hour of that match,

0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 3>my median heart rate was one fifty to On other

0:36:50.200 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 3>ends I was about one ten. So it's brutal workout

0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:55.920
<v Speaker 3>and a lot of people so caution the people listening

0:36:55.960 --> 0:36:58.640
<v Speaker 3>because a lot of older people play doubles. They tear

0:36:58.719 --> 0:37:02.120
<v Speaker 3>their achilles, they tell are calf muscles, they get little

0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:04.880
<v Speaker 3>tears in their their legs. Have you have to stretch

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:07.200
<v Speaker 3>and work out, even if you're gonna play doubles pickleball,

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 3>because you're bending and turning and hitting and running alone.

0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:13.160
<v Speaker 2>No, it's not for me, man, I don't. I don't

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:13.480
<v Speaker 2>do that.

0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I think it. I work alone, so I do cattle

0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:21.239
<v Speaker 1>standings on my own. It's run and I walk or

0:37:21.440 --> 0:37:24.120
<v Speaker 1>or lift some weights. So when you run, how far

0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:24.680
<v Speaker 1>do you run?

0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Greg you know it? It kind of varies.

0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:33.080
<v Speaker 1>I usually like nowadays because I don't want to screw

0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:36.840
<v Speaker 1>my knees up because I run on a treadmill. And

0:37:36.960 --> 0:37:40.879
<v Speaker 1>if I'm on a treadmill, I'll run anywhere between five

0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:41.440
<v Speaker 1>and ten.

0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:45.200
<v Speaker 2>Miles on a treadmill, So that must take you an hour.

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:47.400
<v Speaker 2>How long is that north of that?

0:37:47.640 --> 0:37:50.440
<v Speaker 1>Sometime like I'm five miles yeah and under an hour,

0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:52.160
<v Speaker 1>but ten miles yeah, maybe like.

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:57.800
<v Speaker 3>A bit longer than than But that's unbelievable. Able to

0:37:57.800 --> 0:37:59.120
<v Speaker 3>do that with your So you know, I had both

0:37:59.160 --> 0:38:01.080
<v Speaker 3>my knees replaced. I think you and I've talked about

0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:04.200
<v Speaker 3>that before, because uh, I played three sports in high school,

0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:07.920
<v Speaker 3>played college baseball, but really from coaching my kids basketball teams.

0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:11.319
<v Speaker 2>But so I know I run sprints, I don't run

0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:12.160
<v Speaker 2>long distances.

0:38:12.239 --> 0:38:14.480
<v Speaker 3>So I give you amazing credit that you're able to

0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 3>run five or ten miles even on a treadmill.

0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:20.799
<v Speaker 2>That's and your knees aren't too sore afterwards. No, they're

0:38:20.840 --> 0:38:21.279
<v Speaker 2>not bad.

0:38:21.480 --> 0:38:23.399
<v Speaker 1>But the thing is when you were doing all when

0:38:23.440 --> 0:38:26.040
<v Speaker 1>you were doing all that, playing all those sports at

0:38:26.080 --> 0:38:28.160
<v Speaker 1>the same ages, because we're the same age coming up,

0:38:28.400 --> 0:38:30.839
<v Speaker 1>I was standing at a bar for fifteen years.

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 2>So my knees are fine. It's delivers, deliver, it's fucked.

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:38.960
<v Speaker 2>That's so funny.

0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:42.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Actually, your liver, your liver is probably almost back

0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:43.279
<v Speaker 3>to normal now, I'll bet you.

0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:46.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it should be. I I haven't had a drink

0:38:46.800 --> 0:38:48.360
<v Speaker 2>in over thirty three years.

0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:52.400
<v Speaker 5>So believable. I mean, let's drink to that. I mean that,

0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:55.520
<v Speaker 5>no kidding, I mean at your mental tech though. I

0:38:55.600 --> 0:38:59.120
<v Speaker 5>mean so like I stopped drinking when I was twenty

0:38:59.200 --> 0:38:59.839
<v Speaker 5>nine years old.

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Incredible, And when.

0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:05.200
<v Speaker 3>Twenty nine year olds are told, how many twenty nine

0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:07.319
<v Speaker 3>year olds have the mental fortitude.

0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:10.560
<v Speaker 2>To do that? Seriously? Not my thing, man. I think

0:39:10.640 --> 0:39:13.279
<v Speaker 2>what it was is that it was I was in

0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:15.080
<v Speaker 2>a fork in the road.

0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:20.520
<v Speaker 1>It was either jails, institutions, and death or still drinking.

0:39:20.640 --> 0:39:22.600
<v Speaker 2>And it was a decision for a minute, Yeah, it

0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:23.319
<v Speaker 2>was close call.

0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:25.600
<v Speaker 3>Well it's a little close call for every but there

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:27.719
<v Speaker 3>are so many twenty nine year olds that lack the

0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:31.800
<v Speaker 3>self awareness, or even thirty five or forty year olds

0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:34.799
<v Speaker 3>that don't see it. And even you know, a lot

0:39:34.840 --> 0:39:37.560
<v Speaker 3>of people are very functional at work, but as soon

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:39.279
<v Speaker 3>as they come home, they have one or two or

0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:42.120
<v Speaker 3>three drinks and that is just not not a healthy

0:39:42.200 --> 0:39:42.560
<v Speaker 3>way to go.

0:39:42.760 --> 0:39:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Man.

0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Well it's kind of an interesting I find myself in

0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 1>the horns of a dilemma a little bit about it,

0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:51.600
<v Speaker 1>because you know, I have two kids, and you know,

0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 1>you worry that you're passing on non genetically to those guys,

0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:57.200
<v Speaker 1>and right, and what.

0:39:57.640 --> 0:40:01.600
<v Speaker 2>I wonder, you know, I look, I'm not a doctor,

0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:05.000
<v Speaker 2>as we both know, but I I wonder.

0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:10.600
<v Speaker 1>If alcoholism is as clear cut as a genetics.

0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:14.560
<v Speaker 2>I think it's. I think it's a genetic predisposition. I

0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:18.720
<v Speaker 2>think you right, and we have data that that's correct.

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:22.000
<v Speaker 3>But you know, without the environment, if I took that

0:40:22.160 --> 0:40:24.080
<v Speaker 3>person who has one hundred percent chance of being an

0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:25.960
<v Speaker 3>alcoholic and I put him on an island his whole

0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:27.880
<v Speaker 3>life with no alcohol, it's not going to happen, right,

0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:30.440
<v Speaker 3>So it's a mixture between the two.

0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:31.799
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:40:31.920 --> 0:40:33.520
<v Speaker 3>It's funny you talk about the kids, because I have

0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:35.880
<v Speaker 3>three boys, and of course you know I told him

0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:38.200
<v Speaker 3>that if you ever smoke, you're gonna die one puff

0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:39.480
<v Speaker 3>if you ever drink alcohol.

0:40:39.880 --> 0:40:42.440
<v Speaker 2>So my middle son, God bless my middle son, Alec.

0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:43.040
<v Speaker 2>I love him.

0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:46.600
<v Speaker 3>He doesn't even have a sip ever of alcohol never,

0:40:47.480 --> 0:40:49.000
<v Speaker 3>he's so anti against it.

0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:51.080
<v Speaker 2>It's really interesting. How old are a is?

0:40:51.120 --> 0:40:54.200
<v Speaker 1>Your oldest, Greg, My oldest is twenty, just coming up

0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:58.239
<v Speaker 1>in twenty four. But what I said to my kids was, look,

0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:01.600
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to be an eye alcoholic for alcohol

0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:04.880
<v Speaker 1>to fuck up your life. You know exactly right, You

0:41:05.040 --> 0:41:07.560
<v Speaker 1>can drink you know, five beers and get in a

0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:10.399
<v Speaker 1>car and think you're you're good to drive, and there

0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:10.759
<v Speaker 1>you are.

0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:13.200
<v Speaker 2>That's it fucking done. You're right.

0:41:13.719 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 3>And even worse, Craig is if they don't get hurt,

0:41:16.360 --> 0:41:18.839
<v Speaker 3>they hurt some little care so they hurt someone else

0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:22.680
<v Speaker 3>and they are screwed up forever with that guilt, you know,

0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:24.640
<v Speaker 3>not to mention what they did to the kid in

0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:25.440
<v Speaker 3>the family.

0:41:25.800 --> 0:41:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Right, And what's kind of I find myself kind of

0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:32.440
<v Speaker 1>struggling with this because I'm not a tanferance advocate. I'm

0:41:32.480 --> 0:41:35.920
<v Speaker 1>not saying like nobody should drink. I believe that, but

0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:40.880
<v Speaker 1>well I kind of But for me, obviously, it's the question.

0:41:41.200 --> 0:41:41.520
<v Speaker 3>I know.

0:41:41.800 --> 0:41:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, my oldest boy, he can just like he'll

0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:50.080
<v Speaker 1>have a cocktail Easter or Christmas or something and go, yeah.

0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:52.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it.

0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:55.080
<v Speaker 3>So you know, my older son, my older son, Robbie

0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:57.000
<v Speaker 3>will have, you know, glass of red wine, which is

0:41:57.040 --> 0:41:59.719
<v Speaker 3>why what I always would do at dinner maybe once

0:41:59.800 --> 0:42:01.520
<v Speaker 3>a week, twice a week. I've stopped doing that the

0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:04.399
<v Speaker 3>last few years and it's fine. And my youngest son,

0:42:05.000 --> 0:42:07.279
<v Speaker 3>Matthew is you know, they're kind of more normal in

0:42:07.360 --> 0:42:09.120
<v Speaker 3>that they'll drink a little bit with their friends, and

0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:12.200
<v Speaker 3>I think that's perfectly normal and healthy and fine. But

0:42:12.360 --> 0:42:14.759
<v Speaker 3>as you said, there always is a moderation. But my

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:17.840
<v Speaker 3>middle son is just completely out on alec. Which is

0:42:17.920 --> 0:42:21.400
<v Speaker 3>really interesting how they they get some of this from

0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:23.239
<v Speaker 3>Austin their culture, but of course they see it with

0:42:23.320 --> 0:42:27.160
<v Speaker 3>their friends and when they see young women getting drunk,

0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:28.560
<v Speaker 3>it really turns them off.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny. They just think gets a really bad look

0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:33.640
<v Speaker 2>listening to them.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember once seeing I was in France in a

0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:41.920
<v Speaker 1>fancy hotel and there was an American lady in the

0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 1>bar and she was a little she was a little drunk.

0:42:45.520 --> 0:42:47.560
<v Speaker 1>She was I mean, it wasn't bad, but she was

0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:50.800
<v Speaker 1>clearly she was a little strawpy. She was leaving the

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<v Speaker 1>bar and I just happened to glance at the way

0:42:55.280 --> 0:42:58.440
<v Speaker 1>the waiter was looking at her. Yeah, and yeah, the

0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:03.080
<v Speaker 1>otter does go fas I know, because the culture there

0:43:03.239 --> 0:43:06.600
<v Speaker 1>is no you know, to be to be drunk is

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<v Speaker 1>it's bad. It's a bad look. Yeah, And I don't

0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:12.640
<v Speaker 1>think it was because she was a woman. I think

0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:15.520
<v Speaker 1>it was because she was drunk, you know, because a

0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:17.000
<v Speaker 1>woman drum just any drum.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, you know, I've been.

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<v Speaker 3>To a few social and I gotta be careful how

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:24.160
<v Speaker 3>I tell this story to keep everybody anonymous. But a

0:43:24.239 --> 0:43:28.200
<v Speaker 3>few social events where there's wonderful families, you know, moms

0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 3>and dads and kids, they're fifteen, sixteen, twelve, twenty, and

0:43:32.760 --> 0:43:38.400
<v Speaker 3>then they watch an adult get just completely inebriated. It

0:43:38.680 --> 0:43:42.680
<v Speaker 3>is just an embarrassing thing for that individual and their family.

0:43:42.840 --> 0:43:45.920
<v Speaker 3>And then you wonder, how are how's a twelve year

0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:48.719
<v Speaker 3>old processing this? The fourteen to fifty year old know

0:43:48.800 --> 0:43:51.880
<v Speaker 3>exactly what's happening, and probably twelve, but the seven and

0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:54.560
<v Speaker 3>eight year old what are they processing? And and how

0:43:54.719 --> 0:43:57.279
<v Speaker 3>what do they do with that information as they get older?

0:43:57.320 --> 0:43:59.840
<v Speaker 3>I think it's impactful. Yeah, definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I saw that.

0:44:00.840 --> 0:44:03.759
<v Speaker 1>I saw I saw drunkenness and adults when I was little.

0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:05.959
<v Speaker 1>My mother never drank at all, but my father drank

0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:08.320
<v Speaker 1>a bit. And you know, when the adults around me

0:44:08.360 --> 0:44:11.840
<v Speaker 1>in Scotland drank, and when you see them, you know,

0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:13.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of lose it. But it was kind of scary.

0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:16.520
<v Speaker 1>But also I equated it with that must be what

0:44:16.560 --> 0:44:18.239
<v Speaker 1>a good time is, you know, I mean.

0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:20.560
<v Speaker 3>Exactly, it is part of Hey, we're let's go out

0:44:20.600 --> 0:44:24.600
<v Speaker 3>and have fun. You know, you can have fun without alcohols.

0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:28.160
<v Speaker 3>It's not The two are not inextricably intertwined. They may

0:44:28.239 --> 0:44:30.759
<v Speaker 3>be related. And I love when my friends drink and

0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:33.160
<v Speaker 3>have a good time and get a little tipsy. It's okay,

0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:35.880
<v Speaker 3>but they're not driving anywhere. They're taking a golf car

0:44:36.000 --> 0:44:36.520
<v Speaker 3>to their house.

0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:39.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah it's okay, you know.

0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:43.040
<v Speaker 1>So now young people, though, I mean, there's a real rise.

0:44:43.680 --> 0:44:45.440
<v Speaker 1>And this is something because I moved back to New

0:44:45.520 --> 0:44:47.360
<v Speaker 1>York City, so I noticed this a lot. Is the

0:44:47.440 --> 0:44:50.200
<v Speaker 1>amount of wheat the people are taking.

0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:52.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I mean you walk as soon as you

0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:53.960
<v Speaker 3>walk out of your building, you just smell it, right,

0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:54.960
<v Speaker 3>what wafts of it?

0:44:55.600 --> 0:44:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it's like it used to be just

0:44:57.600 --> 0:45:01.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, pizza, urine and rat was the smell in

0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:02.000
<v Speaker 1>New York.

0:45:02.320 --> 0:45:06.600
<v Speaker 2>Now it's pizza. You're in rat and weed weed first

0:45:07.160 --> 0:45:08.560
<v Speaker 2>we weed over the pizza.

0:45:09.200 --> 0:45:10.920
<v Speaker 1>But what I think is kind of weird about it

0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:15.000
<v Speaker 1>is that, you know, my people, the alcoholics, they still

0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:18.879
<v Speaker 1>have to walk around with their hiding their their right,

0:45:19.080 --> 0:45:21.800
<v Speaker 1>their alcohol in the bag. But you can smoke adobe

0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:25.040
<v Speaker 1>Like the air from the smoke from the alcohol is

0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:26.320
<v Speaker 1>no getting up mindo's.

0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:29.400
<v Speaker 2>But they're exactly right. I feel like I feel like

0:45:29.480 --> 0:45:31.520
<v Speaker 2>it's discrimination against alcoholics.

0:45:32.800 --> 0:45:34.759
<v Speaker 3>You know, I haven't spun it that way in my mind,

0:45:34.800 --> 0:45:36.520
<v Speaker 3>but now that you mentioned, I'm on board with that.

0:45:36.520 --> 0:45:39.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm happy to join you know, your your society with that.

0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Let's go. But but I will tell you this.

0:45:42.400 --> 0:45:44.440
<v Speaker 3>You know, I operated a lot of athletes and a

0:45:44.480 --> 0:45:48.800
<v Speaker 3>lot of famous people. So I've done several professional athletes.

0:45:48.800 --> 0:45:50.640
<v Speaker 3>I won't tell you the sport, but you could maybe,

0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:54.640
<v Speaker 3>but you could guess. But the lungs of people who

0:45:54.880 --> 0:45:58.720
<v Speaker 3>smoke marijuana, and these are these are world class athletes

0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:02.160
<v Speaker 3>smoking at two three there were times a day, a

0:46:02.360 --> 0:46:08.080
<v Speaker 3>day for twelve to ten to fifteen years. The damage

0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:12.480
<v Speaker 3>it does in their upper lobes is unbelievable, worse than

0:46:12.560 --> 0:46:14.680
<v Speaker 3>cigarettes because before it wasn't regulated.

0:46:14.719 --> 0:46:15.840
<v Speaker 2>You don't know what the hell was in it.

0:46:16.400 --> 0:46:19.879
<v Speaker 3>You don't know about the filters, and how they're able

0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:22.680
<v Speaker 3>to function at the level they are as professional athletes

0:46:23.360 --> 0:46:25.680
<v Speaker 3>is shocking to me. So I have seen an enormous

0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:30.319
<v Speaker 3>amount of damage from marijuana and now vaping. Of course,

0:46:30.800 --> 0:46:33.680
<v Speaker 3>some young kids who vape almost get this allergic reaction.

0:46:34.120 --> 0:46:36.160
<v Speaker 3>You know, once a year we have a young child

0:46:36.719 --> 0:46:39.560
<v Speaker 3>seventeen eighteen year old die because they were vaping. They

0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:43.600
<v Speaker 3>have some allergic reaction when they get a pulmonary interstitial

0:46:43.680 --> 0:46:46.200
<v Speaker 3>numinitis and some sort of allergic reaction in the whole

0:46:46.239 --> 0:46:49.719
<v Speaker 3>long it's terrible. And then telling families going out and telling,

0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:52.759
<v Speaker 3>you know, a thirty a forty year old mom and dad,

0:46:52.840 --> 0:46:55.640
<v Speaker 3>and this is their life that their fifteen or sixteen

0:46:55.719 --> 0:46:58.759
<v Speaker 3>year old has passed away and is now dead from

0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:03.000
<v Speaker 3>vaping or smoking marijuana. It's it's terrible. So you know,

0:47:03.120 --> 0:47:05.400
<v Speaker 3>we see the terrible end of it. So I'm so

0:47:05.640 --> 0:47:08.680
<v Speaker 3>anti marijuana. It's uh, I can't explain it.

0:47:09.040 --> 0:47:09.200
<v Speaker 2>Well.

0:47:09.280 --> 0:47:11.440
<v Speaker 1>The thing is as well with marijuana for me is

0:47:11.600 --> 0:47:13.680
<v Speaker 1>that you know, because I get it. You know, I

0:47:13.840 --> 0:47:17.080
<v Speaker 1>smoked marijuana. I mean I did all the drugs and

0:47:17.640 --> 0:47:22.960
<v Speaker 1>the the uh marijuana, strangely enough, was the one. I

0:47:23.640 --> 0:47:27.640
<v Speaker 1>had the worst time with marijuana in what way you

0:47:27.760 --> 0:47:33.160
<v Speaker 1>wanted way. It made me psychotic. I mean it brought

0:47:33.560 --> 0:47:36.800
<v Speaker 1>a panic in me. I mean I guess maybe speed

0:47:36.960 --> 0:47:39.520
<v Speaker 1>or acid could could compare with it, but I didn't

0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:40.920
<v Speaker 1>do a ton of speed and acid.

0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:46.239
<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah. But whenever people would casually I would, I

0:47:46.360 --> 0:47:46.960
<v Speaker 2>would smoke it.

0:47:47.000 --> 0:47:49.640
<v Speaker 1>When I was about seventeen eighteen, I would smoke marijuana

0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:51.520
<v Speaker 1>and it kind of made that what it did to

0:47:51.560 --> 0:47:56.920
<v Speaker 1>everyone else. And then one day it changed and whenever

0:47:57.000 --> 0:47:59.319
<v Speaker 1>I even I smell weed. Now I'm sixty two years old,

0:47:59.320 --> 0:48:02.399
<v Speaker 1>I haven't had a drug thirty three years. I still

0:48:02.480 --> 0:48:03.960
<v Speaker 1>smell it and it makes me a little nervous.

0:48:04.400 --> 0:48:05.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, interesting, I'm.

0:48:05.320 --> 0:48:07.440
<v Speaker 3>Gonna say, for the record, your because your birthday is

0:48:07.480 --> 0:48:09.759
<v Speaker 3>in May, mine's May twenty fourth, and yours is May

0:48:09.880 --> 0:48:11.440
<v Speaker 3>twenty seven six.

0:48:11.840 --> 0:48:15.880
<v Speaker 2>No, mine is seventeen, which means than you. Yeah, no, no, no,

0:48:16.120 --> 0:48:17.399
<v Speaker 2>are you? Is that what that means?

0:48:17.640 --> 0:48:17.680
<v Speaker 5>No?

0:48:17.880 --> 0:48:21.239
<v Speaker 2>Older than I say, I'm pretty sure I think you're older. Well,

0:48:21.239 --> 0:48:22.680
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna let your run with that story.

0:48:22.840 --> 0:48:25.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we both turned sixty three, are both born

0:48:25.960 --> 0:48:28.440
<v Speaker 3>in nineteen sixty two, right, So I'm gonna say, for

0:48:28.520 --> 0:48:30.640
<v Speaker 3>the record, you're really sixty three, just to clean the

0:48:30.719 --> 0:48:33.279
<v Speaker 3>accuracy up there, because Tom is gonna Tom's gonna have.

0:48:33.320 --> 0:48:35.239
<v Speaker 2>To edit that, and because it's just an actor, you know,

0:48:35.320 --> 0:48:39.760
<v Speaker 2>the truth truth checker, fact checker in this story. That's interesting.

0:48:41.200 --> 0:48:43.440
<v Speaker 2>You don't love to when you smell the marijuana, you

0:48:43.520 --> 0:48:46.560
<v Speaker 2>don't like it. No, I don't care for it. At all.

0:48:47.120 --> 0:48:48.439
<v Speaker 2>It makes me sick.

0:48:48.719 --> 0:48:51.240
<v Speaker 3>Sick to mine coming out of a beautiful apartment building,

0:48:51.840 --> 0:48:54.400
<v Speaker 3>jacket and ties five through in the morning, coming to

0:48:54.440 --> 0:48:56.320
<v Speaker 3>the hospital, go around and I smell it on my

0:48:56.400 --> 0:48:56.879
<v Speaker 3>way to work.

0:48:56.920 --> 0:48:59.640
<v Speaker 2>It's just I'm like, what the hell is going on here? Man?

0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:02.200
<v Speaker 2>It's all some people smell of it. People have been

0:49:02.239 --> 0:49:04.000
<v Speaker 2>smoking it, think. I mean, first of all, I know,

0:49:04.239 --> 0:49:07.440
<v Speaker 2>it's like cats. They can't fucking smell it, you know.

0:49:07.560 --> 0:49:09.440
<v Speaker 3>I love, yeah, I love when the patients come in

0:49:09.560 --> 0:49:13.120
<v Speaker 3>and they reek of it and then I'm not smoking.

0:49:13.120 --> 0:49:15.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, Okay, you're not smoking, then I guess you're

0:49:15.080 --> 0:49:18.359
<v Speaker 3>You're golden. Your golden retriever wants to live up six

0:49:18.520 --> 0:49:20.239
<v Speaker 3>doobies this morning because you.

0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Rereak of marijuana.

0:49:21.960 --> 0:49:24.680
<v Speaker 3>It's all over your clothes and you oh, that's that's

0:49:24.800 --> 0:49:27.279
<v Speaker 3>my partner, you know, Okay, all right.

0:49:27.560 --> 0:49:29.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know anyway.

0:49:29.239 --> 0:49:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Look, a couple of old farts like us railing against

0:49:31.960 --> 0:49:35.160
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the world. It's it's just a good time, sir.

0:49:35.200 --> 0:49:37.640
<v Speaker 1>If I'm always happy to do it. Listen, thank you

0:49:37.760 --> 0:49:40.640
<v Speaker 1>for making time for us today. I'm always happy to

0:49:40.719 --> 0:49:41.040
<v Speaker 1>talk to you.

0:49:41.160 --> 0:49:42.080
<v Speaker 2>More poweries to you.

0:49:42.239 --> 0:49:44.839
<v Speaker 1>You are you are the guy and if I if

0:49:44.880 --> 0:49:48.319
<v Speaker 1>this calcium thing sews up anything, I'll get in touch.

0:49:48.880 --> 0:49:51.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just when you're actually just shoot me an email

0:49:51.080 --> 0:49:52.920
<v Speaker 3>of what the score is. I'm just I'm going to

0:49:52.960 --> 0:49:55.279
<v Speaker 3>say it's a zero. I think you're a zero guy,

0:49:55.440 --> 0:49:58.600
<v Speaker 3>And so that's the report we want. And really a number,

0:49:58.760 --> 0:50:01.240
<v Speaker 3>you know, one hundred or last or it kind of depends,

0:50:01.320 --> 0:50:03.879
<v Speaker 3>or two hundred or less. We're okay, but let's let's

0:50:03.920 --> 0:50:04.960
<v Speaker 3>hope and pay for a zero.

0:50:05.080 --> 0:50:07.759
<v Speaker 2>You deserve a zero. I would like a zero. All right,

0:50:07.840 --> 0:50:10.360
<v Speaker 2>take a ether of it. Ahbody, God bless you. Thanks,

0:50:10.440 --> 0:50:11.359
<v Speaker 2>good bye,