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Speaker 1: What's up, y'all? Welcome back to No Fouls Given, presented

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Speaker 1: by Prize Picks Big Wise, of course, and I'm joined

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Speaker 1: by the two legends, the two champions, Paul Pierce Danny Green.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's get episode. What episode is this?

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Speaker 2: Three?

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Speaker 1: Wow? Wow? Episode three? Getting off the ground. Man. You know,

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Speaker 1: I was in Nashville for a bachelor party this past weekend.

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Speaker 2: About it?

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Speaker 1: Talk to just great city, great food, great great food,

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Speaker 1: great drinks, a lot of live music.

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Speaker 3: You know what what happened? I've never been to a

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Speaker 3: bachelor party?

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Speaker 4: Well, what happens? You did have a bachelor party. I've

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Speaker 4: never been to one, bro so, but I've been places

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Speaker 4: where you could have considered there was one maybe, Okay

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Speaker 4: from what I hear this one.

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Speaker 1: It was like a group of ten guys got together

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Speaker 1: three airbnbs literally right next to each other. Three houses. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: everybody had their own room on space, on whatever, and

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Speaker 1: just the itinerary, dinners, drinks. The bachelor is a big

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Speaker 1: country music fan, so that's why he wanted to have

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Speaker 1: and nash No golfing, entertainment, no comf doing that.

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Speaker 3: Adult drinks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, adult drinks.

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Speaker 5: What I'm saying, Oh, adult.

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Speaker 2: A lot of different things. I went to a little club,

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Speaker 2: little party clubs.

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Speaker 5: Trust me, he said, it was one of the best weekends.

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Speaker 2: Of this So you did your jobs.

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Speaker 1: So I'm happy about that. Shouting my man, Matt, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you go on the rite note, you know. So

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Speaker 1: I'm literally looking at Instagram and I see Paul reposting

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Speaker 1: his own prop again.

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Speaker 2: As you should, bro.

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Speaker 1: He really reposted.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, you know, this guy is hilarious. He found

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Speaker 5: this content creator.

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Speaker 2: Was like, oh yeah right, somebody tagged on.

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Speaker 3: Somebody tagged just reposted it like I didn't put this up.

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Speaker 1: So for those who don't know, somehow I haven't learned

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Speaker 1: to see this.

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Speaker 5: Paul has been doing this. I was better than t Wade.

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Speaker 2: Years business bro for years now, supposed to believe in yourself.

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Speaker 3: I was asked the question. Truthfully, I didn't just come

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Speaker 3: out and say, hey, I'm better than the way. It's like,

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Speaker 3: there's a thousands players you could have seen. Yeah, you

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Speaker 3: as directions like that's how I felt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, could you reiterate? Why did you feel like you're.

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Speaker 2: More on the talent based type of instead of not

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Speaker 2: like the resume, it was more of the talent.

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Speaker 3: I felt like all right, of course, you know d

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Speaker 3: Waite's a three time champion, the Finals MVP, I got

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Speaker 3: a lot of more accolades that actually, but when I

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Speaker 3: like look at it, I think I was a more

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Speaker 3: versatile player, play more positions, could be more things out

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Speaker 3: on the court. Loe, Yeah, more longevity, and I didn't

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Speaker 3: have the luxury to play with a lot of horror

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Speaker 3: Hall of famers in my prime. You know so, But

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Speaker 3: no shout out to d Way. He wanted the greats.

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Speaker 3: I ain't taking around away from it. It was just

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Speaker 3: a question was brought to me, and this is what

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Speaker 3: made me the player I was. Anyway you could have

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Speaker 3: asked you about I'm like a superstar All Star.

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Speaker 2: You gotta be like think that way.

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Speaker 3: I mean, after we won the championship and I got

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Speaker 3: that Finals MVP, I said I'm the best player in

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Speaker 3: the world. Did people got offended from that? I just

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Speaker 3: want if you do, you know what I'm saying. So

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Speaker 3: that's what made me who I was in NBA. Competitive

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Speaker 3: wanted to be one of the best. So you know,

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Speaker 3: whatever people say, I don't really bother me. Man, You

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Speaker 3: know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: You know, I had never really considered the question until

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Speaker 1: you have went viral that first time. But realistically, when

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Speaker 1: when I think about Paul's career, I think people don't

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Speaker 1: really understand, like especially that finals against the Lakers.

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Speaker 2: But I think it's a very underrated fact fast the

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Speaker 2: most underrated careers resume plays facts in the game for sure,

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Speaker 2: And when you look at it from a skill standpoint,

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Speaker 2: now I see where his argument comes from.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, based on like that, right, Yeah, but then

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Speaker 3: a lot of people didn't see me pre Big Three.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they.

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Speaker 3: You gotta kind of go to that.

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Speaker 1: The reason I say that is because you know, when

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Speaker 1: you guys won that championship against the Lakers, Paul didn't

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Speaker 1: have a defensive reputation before that kind of run.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and he's in the finals and he's strapping Kobe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not afraid to say.

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Speaker 1: That that's what happened, was bro.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I was doing it all playoffs, you know,

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Speaker 3: because we didn't have the recognition.

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Speaker 2: And would you consider that a little bit past your

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Speaker 2: prime years?

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Speaker 3: It was like like I was, I was thirty, right,

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Speaker 3: so I was on the opposite end of it because

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Speaker 3: like now, the primes is lasted longer. And that's just

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Speaker 3: involvement of the players. You know, a lot of the

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Speaker 3: good player great players was retiring at thirty three, thirty four. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, like my tenth year, I had a lot

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Speaker 3: of miles already. Yeah, I had a couple of broken

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Speaker 2: So I started saying that it's about when it starts.

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Speaker 3: To Yeah, yeah, I was on it. I was definitely not.

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Speaker 3: I'm just told out and just was like, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, one stuff, little step yea.

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Speaker 1: Even in twenty twelve when you guys went up three

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Speaker 1: two against the Heat, like it was Paul like Garden

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Speaker 1: Brown on the bro. You guys had a great team defense.

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Speaker 1: Obviously it wasn't like doing it, but like that was

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Speaker 1: your primary last of that broun fucking James and his pride.

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Speaker 3: It's like I'm playing this young dude. He's the fastest,

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Speaker 3: the tallest, the strongest guy in the league, and I'm

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Speaker 3: out here almost like a dinosaur, like they trying to

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Speaker 3: keep up.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so you know, so yeah, I think a lot

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Speaker 5: of people took it like.

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Speaker 2: I think they were the last of the dying breed though,

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Speaker 2: like that Celtics team where they didn't they really competed,

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Speaker 2: they didn't they talk, they ship, they didn't back down

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Speaker 2: from nobody, and they like met competition like head on,

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Speaker 2: like a lot of guys now they're like they compete,

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Speaker 2: but they don't ever guard each other no more. You

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. It's like, all right, you see

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Speaker 2: Edwards talk about SGA, but they ain't gone. You know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. You don't see that the head up

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Speaker 2: like back then, it's like, nah, I'm getting he's like,

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Speaker 2: I got cold. You what I'm saying, I got I

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Speaker 2: like that era. So but that was that was when basketball.

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Speaker 2: It was a great time in basketball.

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Speaker 1: Man. So wait, so, so what you treating that? Like?

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Speaker 1: How chucking them treat the nineties?

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Speaker 2: What do you mean in terms of what? No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: no at all. I mean I said, I'm I like

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Speaker 2: my because I got a small part of that when

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Speaker 2: the back end of the new era and I got

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Speaker 2: in the between. So I see the good and all. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know parts of each era, but growing up watching it,

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Speaker 2: that was that was the best time.

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Speaker 1: It's hard for me to see the good in the

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Speaker 1: two thousand and five finals with you know what.

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Speaker 3: I feel like with our era, this is what I

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Speaker 3: feel like our air compared to today, and you got your

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Speaker 3: grades to today. I feel like our era had more aura.

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Speaker 2: For sure. The celebrity was way different. That's also because

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Speaker 2: the players, the social media kind of ruined the celebrit

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like there's too much access

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Speaker 3: The guys with the or today of course KD. Curry,

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Speaker 3: Lebron and then like you know, Win being starting to

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like when I when I

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Speaker 3: like damn Tim dunkantt right there, Like damn right there.

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Speaker 3: It's a problem. Right before the game start. You look

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Speaker 3: You just kind of like up the side of your eye.

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Speaker 3: You like it's just like a it's like a glow

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Speaker 3: really see that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear it it's a different time.

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Speaker 2: Prize picks from last week. Yes, yeah, I think we

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Speaker 1: I think we did decent between the three of us.

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Speaker 1: DeAndre eight more, but he got hurt though.

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Speaker 2: The crazy thing is he had all that he didn't

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Speaker 1: Got you right, So he got the nine points and

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Speaker 2: I feel he would have got like he probably have

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Speaker 2: got right at fourteen to fifteen, but he would have

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Speaker 2: definitely had at least four to six points in the

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Speaker 2: second half.

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Speaker 1: So me and you had him for more.

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Speaker 2: Than fourteen and a half.

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Speaker 5: Paul said, less, Paul got that one.

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Speaker 3: The injury, the injury, injury, But you got them them guys,

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Speaker 3: putting up buckets with Luca.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Luca came back, dropping back forty four points his

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Speaker 2: We do we have a more or less for him?

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Speaker 1: No, because I don't think he was announced to be that. Yea.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Adam Silvera, get on that make these

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Speaker 2: Also said, they probably what do you think they're thinking.

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Speaker 2: So to myss, I don't know it coach. Young guy,

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Speaker 2: a couple of mutuals. Play with some of his homies

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Speaker 5: And allegedly he tore John Moran a new one the game.

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Speaker 3: I don't mind that.

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Speaker 2: Give us, give us you inside of a coach. I

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Speaker 2: know you had docs, so it's different. But like, how

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Speaker 3: Say what you feel about me in front of everybody?

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Speaker 3: Because I'm gonna say the same thing right in front

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Speaker 3: be coachable because Doc would always say, allow me to coach.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, So like, if that's what

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Speaker 3: can say it in front of everybody that's saying though

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Speaker 3: I ain't no little kid, I ain't no punishment for sure,

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Speaker 3: Like all right, come on.

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Speaker 2: You already built a rapport with Doc. This is a

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Speaker 3: Bro, Like I do got a good story. No, When

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Speaker 3: Doc first got there, though, we wasn't cool.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it wasn't all cool. Okay, I was on some jock.

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Speaker 3: I was like, man, I ain't one of these little

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Speaker 3: kids like you're talking to. I feel like you have

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Speaker 3: to do that with Doctor man. I was like, we

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Speaker 3: did have. We did bump heads at first because he

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's they brought him in early last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So sometimes with your star, because think about this, your

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Speaker 3: Then you bring in somebody else to say, all right,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna go in a different direction because your way

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Speaker 3: got pissed. So maybe he's trying to get Jock out

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, I think this is

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Speaker 2: Like he I considered myself like a laid back, nice guys.

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Speaker 2: Even with Doc, I had to be like, Nah, Doc,

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Speaker 2: you ain't gonna do that shit to me. I got enough. Nah, bro,

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Speaker 2: don't be trying to you know what I'm saying, pick

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Speaker 2: you gotta be the leader, you gotta police the locker room,

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Speaker 2: you gotta do this, and I'm challenging to take on

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Speaker 2: It's like cool, but with a new coach, I feel like,

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Speaker 2: you gotta let him know. Like before and I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: this tells me I don't know if Joe signed off

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Speaker 3: The one thing. It shouldn't effect I don't care what

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Speaker 3: y'all get into. It shouldn't affect what's going on this

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Speaker 3: court quite hard. You got you gotta hoop, then we'll

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Speaker 3: deal with that. That's the only thing. That's why I

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Speaker 3: feel like, damn man, because this was reminding me now

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Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler how he lost to love and you saw

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Speaker 3: it in a win in Miami. But you can't let

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Speaker 3: it effect you own. The court got to figure that out.

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Speaker 2: That's that's just that's called being a professional too. But

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Speaker 2: if you're a professional, you gotta and how you approach

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Speaker 2: and talk to the media. If you feel like you

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Speaker 2: can't say something and a light that's gonna get you

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Speaker 2: like fined or SUSPENCD like, don't talk, just just leave it.

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Speaker 1: I think he got fined for what he said. He

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Speaker 2: They suspended him for a game. They suspended them for

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Speaker 1: The he played, so he didn't play the.

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Speaker 2: Next game, Yeah, the next game. So after the comments

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Speaker 2: the team, the team suspend them. Detrimental to the comments,

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Speaker 1: They suspected him.

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Speaker 2: So I'm like, yo, mind which I thought they were

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Speaker 2: out of packet for going that far, Like you could

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Speaker 2: find him, you should find him again. I'm I don't

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Speaker 2: think he said anything.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't.

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Speaker 2: It's a professional but suspension. I don't think it's a game.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's the media comments.

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Speaker 2: I think it's insensitive.

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Speaker 1: Man and the coat and the coach doesn't come from

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Speaker 1: the NBA world, so it's kind of like, yo, who

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Speaker 1: And also the main thing to me is like they

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Speaker 1: He's used to operating with a limited amount of accountability.

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Speaker 1: So now it's like y'all flipping the script. Now y'all

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Speaker 5: Like I've been behaving like a knucklehead since I.

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Speaker 2: Got the vet. Now you are supposed to be a leader.

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Speaker 2: We've traded, we've done anything. I don't know if you've

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Speaker 2: done everything you've asked of us. But they made moves

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Speaker 2: at some point, yes, you gotta grow up. But again

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Speaker 2: I think it's more or so. The locker rooms are

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Speaker 2: trying to tiptoe around and figure out gen centers. It's

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Speaker 2: like coaches have to and that's one of the main

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Speaker 2: reasons why I won't coach. It's like you gotta find

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Speaker 2: do this. But that the world is different, so certain

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Speaker 2: things can't be said in media, certain things can't be

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Speaker 2: said to people like they are grown men. But back

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Speaker 2: in the day, I'm not saying like that, but even before,

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Speaker 2: back in the day, like you should be able to

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Speaker 2: and without it affecting what's going on on the court.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about the idea that a coach's

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Speaker 2: Maybe manager goes, yeah, that's that's like eighty percent.

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Speaker 1: That's the job. Like you can have the dopest X

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Speaker 3: Don't have to do your ship, it doesn't got to

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Speaker 3: have respect of your star player because once you see

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a rap.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty much.

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Speaker 2: So do you think that job was cool with him

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Speaker 2: taking over the coach like Taylor being fired? Do you

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Speaker 2: think he signed up on that and you think that

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Speaker 2: he was okay with taking over? Man?

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Speaker 3: From the looks of it, it really don't look like,

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Speaker 3: you know, because he was. It don't look like he

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Speaker 2: Keep that's where I say the front office out of pocket. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: This is your franchise player, because listen, this is Memphis.

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Speaker 3: Memphis ain't a big market and you've got one of

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Speaker 3: the most watchable superstars. You don't want to lose him,

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Speaker 3: because I'm not watching Memphis without Job, you know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying. I'm not watching unless you bring in somebody

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Speaker 3: like who like LaMelo Ball or somebody just as exciting

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Speaker 3: filling up the seats, y'all gotta figure something out of me.

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Speaker 3: Gonna go down once you get rid of him?

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Speaker 1: Okay, but what he would like Just on the other

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Speaker 2: Off injuries by Jah yes and also injuries. But the

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Speaker 5: I can't rely on you, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: This is a season where he's supposed to build that, yes,

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Speaker 2: who is going to take a chance Like what contenders

438
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 2: or big markets are going to take a chance on.

439
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:44,680
Speaker 1: The first name that I've heard is Miami, because.

440
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,639
Speaker 2: Gonna take a chance on because with all you know

441
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:52,400
Speaker 2: they have the Terry Rose like the I think.

442
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,959
Speaker 1: I think it's almost like the Luca thing, where I

443
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 1: just don't think Luca becomes skinny. If he's still on

444
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 1: the MAVs. It's like, you gotta get traded, you gotta

445
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,439
Speaker 1: have that blow to your ego.

446
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,880
Speaker 2: But not if he's like this, Luca got traded not

447
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,679
Speaker 2: knowing he was, like, this is his job making the

448
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 2: trade happen. If it's like, oh, I want to go

449
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,640
Speaker 2: to Houston or want to go to Miami, he ain't

450
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 2: taking no ego blow because this is what I wanted.

451
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 2: It's different for it if it was like, oh, I'm

452
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 2: this is my franchise, I'm good at his extension and like, nope,

453
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 2: we ain't giving you that three hundred and some extension.

454
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 2: You gotta go over here. You just lost one hundred

455
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 2: and fifty million dollars like Luca did, and it's like,

456
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 2: now that's it takes. That is that is a builds

457
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 2: a home. But this is a different like this different scenario.

458
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 2: If he forces the trade, it ain't his ego games.

459
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 1: But I think Memphis would be happy to initiate the

460
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,159
Speaker 1: trade if things continue to go again.

461
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:42,439
Speaker 2: Who was taking the chance.

462
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 3: I think it's time for a breakup.

463
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 2: I do.

464
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,439
Speaker 3: I think they've worn out each other welcome, I mean

465
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 3: already gave it. How many other year is this for.

466
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,679
Speaker 2: Joab It's gotta be six seven, maybe more than honestly

467
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 2: got we gotte he got drafted.

468
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: Come on, because summer's.

469
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,239
Speaker 3: About right though, because that's when you start looking at

470
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 3: just relationships. The six seven year mark, that's like, stay

471
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 3: with her, it's gonna be over seven him. That seven

472
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 3: year mark is a real thing, y'all look it up

473
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 3: as far as like it could go either way at

474
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 3: that point. And I think they at that point today

475
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 3: where they both need to kind of uh separate ways.

476
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 3: And then you got a big draft coming up. So

477
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 3: if they can find a way to ease the pain

478
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 3: like Dallas did by losing Lucas.

479
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 2: I think it's the only way that New Orleans can

480
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 2: get themselves back in some type of decent conversation, they

481
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 2: find a way to.

482
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 1: New Orleans gets John Moran.

483
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 2: If they can find a way to get you over there.

484
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: Get the other knucklehead from the twenty draft class.

485
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:56,199
Speaker 2: I'm not, I'm not, No, I'm not.

486
00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: You think you think he's a spitting image of professionalism

487
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 1: in NBA.

488
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 2: I think he's had some troubles. I'm not going to

489
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 2: go to the far extent of calling Zion or Job

490
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 2: or LaMelo ball and those guys knuckle. I don't know

491
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 2: them personally.

492
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,199
Speaker 1: What would you say about somebody who was dating a

493
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: weird porn chick and she.

494
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 2: Was going anybody?

495
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: Would you say about somebody who.

496
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 2: Dating life like they like what they like as long

497
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 2: as you come to work and do your job.

498
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: What would you say about a guy who has chronically

499
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 1: showed up to his job completely out of shape? Damn,

500
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 1: that's just I.

501
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 2: Would say he's unprofessional, unprofessional, unprofessional. As of right now,

502
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 2: they have not proved professionalism at all.

503
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,479
Speaker 3: To me, I'm not sure is it out of shape?

504
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,679
Speaker 3: Because he's definitely productive when he's out.

505
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 2: There, honestly, like Chunky's. It might have been more explosive.

506
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: Luca was.

507
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,199
Speaker 2: All right, but Chunky's bouncy, like his powers when he

508
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 2: gave I don't know he's he's balling right now. He's

509
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,479
Speaker 2: put up numbers. They're are losing. When I said, I've

510
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 2: seen him dunk. Maybe it's getting older in age. He's

511
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 2: not even old. But again, Halfty's I was bouncy boy.

512
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 2: He was. He was putting in numbers. So it wasn't

513
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 2: like he wasn't producing, he was just getting injured.

514
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: I just think New Orleans is one of the most

515
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: toxic kind of damn.

516
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 2: I feel they have a bad luck thing going on.

517
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 2: There's a lot of injuries that we still have the

518
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 2: ownership in.

519
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just right there. It's not there, bro and

520
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: like John Morint going there and adding on to that.

521
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 2: But if you got like, would you see them where

522
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 2: he wants to go? I don't know, Like I think

523
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 2: they where I did the best au Ye, Yeah, that's

524
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 2: what I think. And that's where like Cleveland or something

525
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 2: like that.

526
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 1: I don't know why Cleveland would even.

527
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 2: They're trying to move Darius and Jared Allen or someone

528
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 2: like you know what I'm saying, Like you get a

529
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 2: package of another big and a guard like that's like

530
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 2: Darius is similar. We're talking about Darius.

531
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 3: John hat right there. That was a good one, you know.

532
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 2: I mean, unless they went to like trying to prevent

533
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 2: Boston somehow. But again, I would Boston take the chance on.

534
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 1: I don't know how you watch what doing for the

535
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,239
Speaker 1: previous two seasons and now to start this season, be like, yo,

536
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: I need to get that guy in my building.

537
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 2: But the talent is still TV.

538
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: The talent is still there. Like he's somebody that I

539
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: always thought, like when the lights were the brightest, like

540
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 1: the playoff moments.

541
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 5: And stuff, He's like he could dig, like take it

542
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 5: to another I've.

543
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: Seen him get forty in the play so like we've

544
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 2: seen him do that catch back with a lot like

545
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 2: he does all in the time the lights come up.

546
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 2: Col talk like he getting game winners. He's making stuff happen.

547
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 2: Yeah on the court, we know that.

548
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: So parade in my city. Anyway, John came back last night,

549
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: had a decent game, more energy. They lost a close

550
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: game to the Pistons. Kate Cunningham another unreal performance thirty

551
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: thirty three points, eight assists, five ReBs b Stu dropped

552
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: twenty six fourteen rebounds.

553
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 2: You're having a good year too, you know.

554
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 5: Jalen Duran had another fourteen and nine.

555
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 2: He had a career night the other night he had

556
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 2: like thirty something in Mesterco City.

557
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so the Pistons are five and two, tied

558
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: for third in the East.

559
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 2: Getting better because they were they started off kind of shaking.

560
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: I was expected more for them in Orlando, but they're

561
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 2: putting themselves back in the conversation where they're supposed to

562
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 2: be so and Kate he up there right now, he

563
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 2: topt He in my top five point guards in the

564
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 2: league right now, top five, top five five, top five

565
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 2: point guard right now, top five. Probably they got a

566
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: list for us. We're gonna look at it.

567
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: We're gonna get it. Get into that, get into that.

568
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 3: Damn hold on, I can't just throw that out there.

569
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 3: I gotta get to this.

570
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 2: We're gonna get to it. You're gonna see the list, gonna.

571
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: Show you some of the top guys, prisoners of the moment.

572
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: He had a great season last year, twelve piece next week.

573
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 1: He was a clear cut All Star last year. I

574
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 1: thought he had a phenomenal series against the Knicks. For

575
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: that being last year, yes, third team. I think I

576
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: think that that Nick series being his first ever playoff series, like,

577
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: I thought, he handled himself really well and I think

578
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: he learned a lot from that and those Nick those

579
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: guys are the Knicks a bunch of playoff testing dudes,

580
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: like so many of them are. And for Kay to

581
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: do what he did in the playoffs last year, and

582
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: he's kind of hitting the ground running. It's really cool

583
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: to see.

584
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a definitely picking up his assist this year,

585
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 2: Like he had eighteen assists of the night that Dura Like.

586
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, we used to kill him early on in his

587
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: career was the turnovers, Like he would just he would

588
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: just spray the ball everywhere and was always amongst like

589
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: some of the league leaders in turnover rate. But now

590
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: he's gotten that a little bit more under control. Three

591
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: ball is working to the extent that you needed to.

592
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: And yeah, I just love that this Detroit team has

593
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: an identity.

594
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 2: I'm liking. I'm liking where they are. I think they

595
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: did lose a little Duncle Robinson's gonna pick up, but

596
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 2: losing Malik Beasley and Tim Hardaway jus different kind of shooting.

597
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 2: And they picked up carros He hasn't really done much,

598
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: but they picked up Uncle Robinson and Carrosselvert to replace

599
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: those two. And I feel like it seems like it,

600
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 2: but they productions in this league. The production is very different.

601
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 2: Different because he got up some numbers in Miami at

602
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 2: one point, but now he's more of like I give

603
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 2: you ten to twelve, we give you two three, three

604
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,479
Speaker 2: is a game. And before league junior, my league was

605
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 2: and Tim Hardaway like six man of the year than candidate,

606
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: like he was like like he was very important to

607
00:29:59,160 --> 00:29:59,959
Speaker 2: that team last year year.

608
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: I believe it was just really good at getting the

609
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: threes off, Like he was the only person on Detroit

610
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: that could that could shoot it at all.

611
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 3: Making sure you have to get that out of here.

612
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: Allegations too, Yeah, we ain't trying to still an investigation.

613
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: That's why he didn't.

614
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 2: They literally cleared I thought he cleared that.

615
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: Too, but they literally took his contract. He got in

616
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: trouble and they said, here, Duncan Robinson is yours. Duncan Robinson

617
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: got your check.

618
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 3: Bro.

619
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: It's tough, but I'm I'm I'm super excited about what

620
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: Detroit has done to start the season. We'll see where

621
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: they take it.

622
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 2: Keep it rolling, Welcome down, all right.

623
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: We're still reviewing some of our previous prizepects.

624
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 5: Tyres Maxie more or less, more or less.

625
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: First NBA Cup game, more or less versus the Boston

626
00:30:55,360 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: Celtics twenty nine point five. He had twenty six. Yeah,

627
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: me and Danny said less. Paul said more.

628
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 2: Just I just to me it's just a lot of average.

629
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 2: I was like, he's gonna get I think he's gonna

630
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 2: get closed, but not get it. I said, twenty.

631
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: Dropping another thirty piece. But he still had a good

632
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: game fourteen in a loss.

633
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,479
Speaker 2: In a loss they won. The next team he had

634
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 2: twenty six again. I think, well the night, but the

635
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 2: game they lost one point game. Yeah, Jayleen Brown.

636
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: Jalen Brown. We said that he was gonna have to

637
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: carried a load offensively. He ended up having more than

638
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: twenty five and a half. Thirty two cleared it, easily

639
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: cleared it.

640
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 2: Paul and Danny had he had the twenty two minutes

641
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 2: he played or whatever it was. He had a twenty

642
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: ball bro every time Bro and we said he's gonna

643
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 2: have less than.

644
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: A more or less than eighteen and a half twenty

645
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: five minutes. This guy dropped twenty points, grabbed six boards.

646
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 5: Paul, Danny and Wash said less.

647
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: He made us look like dummies. Yeah.

648
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

649
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: The Celtics ended up taking that one point when one

650
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: point when super close.

651
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 2: So are we optimistic? The question is how do we

652
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 2: still feel about Philly.

653
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 5: I don't see how they maintain him.

654
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: Like they're playing right.

655
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, they played again in one fifty.

656
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 5: Eight win pace sixty This is not a sixty one.

657
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 2: Who was the last game they played Washington? Was it

658
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 2: the Nets? Brooklyn? So I was the worst team in

659
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: the league. Yeah, so you're saying the schedule is pretty

660
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 2: easy right now. Yeah, but I like what Tyers is doing.

661
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 2: I like what VJ is doing. Yeah, Joelle is working

662
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 2: his way back here.

663
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 3: The rookie has to hit the wall at some point,

664
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 3: like saying, they got the other kid when he comes back.

665
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 2: McCain, Yeah, said I'm liking I'm liking what I see.

666
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 2: I'm very I'm still optimistic about them. I think they.

667
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: Can earn home homegoing in the playoffs.

668
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 2: Yes, they got a good start. I think the start

669
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 2: is the biggest key to a lot of team seasons.

670
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 2: Like certain teams need that good stuff and for them,

671
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: they needed that. And they're doing this while they're not

672
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 2: fully healthy. McCain PG and Joel's a minute restrictions, So like,

673
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 2: get those two guys back and Joel will be full healthy.

674
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 2: I think they could stay afloat and still be in

675
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 2: the top four, top ship. Yeah, definitely top four.

676
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: We'll see continuing on to some of these past games

677
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,479
Speaker 1: from the weekend, the Bulls, of course stayed hot. They

678
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: split games. When I saw that Nicks loss, no, I'm not.

679
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 2: Okay, I was just when they took that first loss.

680
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I'm like, it's good. It's not even good

681
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: for Mike Brown either.

682
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, they playing a different style of basketball. Yeah,

683
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Before it was dribble, dribble.

684
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 3: See what Jalen Bronson gonna do when the pick and

685
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 3: roll figured it out. At least they moving the ball

686
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 3: a little more. So maybe in the long run, and I.

687
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: Think so too. I think they. I think it'll it'll

688
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: serve them if they actually stay committed to have a

689
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: more diverse style of hoop. But at the same time,

690
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: when they just give the ball to Brunson, it fucking works.

691
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 5: There's a reason why he was doing it.

692
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 2: He's good. It's very good.

693
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: Cat.

694
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 2: Cat looks MOPy at times. I sure to know his

695
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 2: role at times. Mitchell Robinson's back. Now, Josh Hart has

696
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 2: nerve damage in his hand. We don't know how long

697
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 2: that's gonna last on his shooting. But to me, the

698
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:22,959
Speaker 2: reason why the Knicks with the Knicks not only because

699
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson is very good in cat but Josh Hart

700
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,959
Speaker 2: to me, was an X factor. Yeah, and him coming

701
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 2: off the bench changes things not only for them as

702
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 2: a group, but him individually and if he's not himself,

703
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: he made a home there because he became the heart

704
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 2: and soul that team. He's shooting forty plus from three

705
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,720
Speaker 2: in the playoffs, not gonna like triple doubles. His conference

706
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 2: looks very shaky in the Indiana series.

707
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 3: I need Jordan now because they added some depth.

708
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 2: Now.

709
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 3: I need Jordan Clarkson to get comfortable in the offense

710
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 3: because if he get comfortable, it's gonna be a problem.

711
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 2: It is, But I don't know if I like him

712
00:34:58,480 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 2: there right now the way it's looking.

713
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 1: What what are you not enjoying about?

714
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 2: I think he's a great bench guy off the like

715
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: off the bench for you score. I don't know if

716
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: he fits Mike Brown. He's not the same campaign place,

717
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like he's not Malik Monk

718
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 2: and in that system, he just don't look like he's

719
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 2: been playing in Utah. He's gonna take some time to

720
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 2: adapt and adjust to playing their style of play, I think,

721
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 2: But right now it's like I expect a little more

722
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 2: from him off the bench, but it's like it's just

723
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 2: not happening yet. But I expected from them overall, like

724
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 2: the whole group more, and it's still like when I

725
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: watched that Bulls loss, I was like, this is not

726
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 2: is not it?

727
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: This is it?

728
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 2: Well, they split, they got the second win. If they

729
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 2: lost again, they reversed their fortunes.

730
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: And then last night they also won again, So got

731
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: a nice little two game streak going to get. You know,

732
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: the Knicks fans.

733
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 2: The play six is tonight, so.

734
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: That'll be and that'll be a tough back to back.

735
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: You know that the guys built an excuse.

736
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 2: Are they playing in New York or in Philly?

737
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: Built an excuse to not have the energy. But I

738
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: think the Knicks are gonna be fine. I really do.

739
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: I think the main problem is that they don't guard

740
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: in the regular season, and we saw in the playoffs

741
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 1: last year that Og played way better on defense. Mitch

742
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: ended up coming back. Everybody was Bridges, Actually, Yo, Bridges.

743
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: At certain points in the regular season last year, I

744
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, this is not the same dude from Phoenix.

745
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: He's just getting cooked all day.

746
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 2: But his shot also looked different in the beginning of

747
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: yeah ye, like he's changed the shot for a second.

748
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 2: And then in the.

749
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: Playoffs, especially against Boston, like I was like, Okay, you

750
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: guys didn't forget how to play defense. I think they're

751
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 1: doing the same he made.

752
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: He made some key stops. Mckel played well in that. Seriously,

753
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: w's why he got that extension. I don't think they're

754
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 2: gonna be fine, bro, What is your definition of fine

755
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,479
Speaker 2: for them? Because I think the expectation is top three seed,

756
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 2: like top.

757
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 5: I think they can get in the top three.

758
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 1: Still, I think fine just means they develop a more

759
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: diverse way to play offensive basketball that isn't just the

760
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: boring station and station tip shit, and then just bring

761
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: your playoff nohow, and like actually play hard on defense

762
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: in the playoffs because right now in the regular season

763
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing the fire and desire on defense at all.

764
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 2: Trust that's one thing I said that might keep them

765
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 2: afloat because the East is so open. But again, what

766
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 2: if they're they don't adapt to Mike Brown system. But

767
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 2: if they're not good playing that style, but.

768
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 5: They just don't have you saying they just think equipped

769
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 5: to do it.

770
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,439
Speaker 3: But they got the talent, they got the talent, they'll

771
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 3: figure it out. Trust me, when you got that type

772
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 3: of talent, they'll figure it out. You hope, I think

773
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 3: they will.

774
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: Think.

775
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 3: I think in the conference championship, I.

776
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 2: Think they're one injury away from being in the bottom half.

777
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 2: Like there'll be five to six seeds I'm saying, like,

778
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: which is not fine to me from New York. Yeah,

779
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: I mean even even if expectations top three, I still

780
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 2: think they are the before five. But they're one injury

781
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,399
Speaker 2: away from being a playing team. What if J goes

782
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 2: down for a month, you still got, like Cat O, Michael,

783
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 2: you got guys that I don't care.

784
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 3: I don't even four weeks. They're deeper than everybody.

785
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: J just a month.

786
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 2: Last year they stayed afloat that happens.

787
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: This year, it's not happening. Danny Green very pessimistic on

788
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 1: the Knicks, right.

789
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 2: I thought I expected more, but what I'm seeing is

790
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 2: just not. I know, early in the seas, but I'm

791
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 2: not liking.

792
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: What And you know, so funny about last year. Everybody

793
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: assumed they would be an adjustment period for Cat to

794
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: come onto the team, but because they basically didn't change

795
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 1: anything about how they played, Kat was just adding production

796
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: to the Jalen Brunton system, and so the offense was

797
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: way better than people thought it would be, and so

798
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: everybody's like, oh, it's fine, and then the playoff coming

799
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: is just like, Bro, you can't ask Jalen Brunton to

800
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: do all of this on every possession. You gotta set

801
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: his own shout up every possession. So I do think

802
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: they got to stay the course and like try to

803
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: develop a new style.

804
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 2: Yeah again, we'll see. I hope they do. The city

805
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 2: needs it, the city's expecting it.

806
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: Yeah right now.

807
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 5: Trust I'm in contact a lot of Nick fans.

808
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: Mike Brown is.

809
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: So quick.

810
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, things don't go well, they're gonna be asking

811
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 2: for you know, I'm hoping Mike Brown does well, but

812
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 2: they're gonna be looking at him by Christmas.

813
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 3: Like no, no, he can no, don't go well and

814
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 3: city got no patience.

815
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 1: Listen, man, we new day, were in a new day,

816
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: were in a new day.

817
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 2: It's a bigger and better thing.

818
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's run down the standings.

819
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: Some highlights from the standings, Ok, se seven and zero

820
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: again no surprise again.

821
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 2: Also the schedule of who they played. I think they

822
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 2: might have They had some tough close overtime games. But

823
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 2: I didn't see anybody in that that schedule that was

824
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: like threatening to give them a lot, like they've played Indiana, Washington.

825
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 2: You know, I'm trying to think most is a part

826
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 2: of that schedule. But no, they're starting off very well.

827
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 2: Now Spurs and Bulls were end up taking it first loss, but.

828
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: But still they're more surprised at the second seed in

829
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: the West. Again, we get it, small sample size early days,

830
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: but I think even the most optimistic Spurs fans didn't

831
00:40:55,640 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: think they was gonna beat Danny Green and Kawhi Leonard's record. Yeah,

832
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: being fins for start to the season. Wenb he had

833
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: his first bad game of the year. Nine points, non rebounds,

834
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: thirty four minutes, shocking.

835
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 2: Still have four blocks, still have four blocks. But Castle

836
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: had a good night. Harper, Dylan Harper is gonna be

837
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: out for a couple of weeks.

838
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 3: This needs to be a prize pick. I guarantee you

839
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 3: this needs to be a wager on prize pick that

840
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 3: he won't have a game this bad for the.

841
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he probably won't have another nine to less than

842
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 2: nine points and less have less than nine points.

843
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: Less than you guys are listeners get us odds on

844
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: that with over thirty minutes play. Come on, yeah, come on,

845
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: that's not not happening.

846
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 2: Played well, they Phoenix played well.

847
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 5: Devin Booker had probably his best game of the season.

848
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: Big win for them. It's always it's always fun to

849
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: break somebody's winning.

850
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 3: Streak, you know.

851
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 2: I mean, they've been playing well. I just take the

852
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 2: loss as them kind of laying the egg like they

853
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 2: were down twenty. Phoenix is a solid team, but they're

854
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,479
Speaker 2: not that good of a team, so it's just more

855
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 2: san Antonio kind of is like losing some energy and

856
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 2: just having a bad night more so than and Phoenix

857
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 2: having a like combination of both.

858
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, now we got to get into less happy.

859
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 2: Almost the how many nights like this? Oh, you have

860
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: to be in an MVP conversation again.

861
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 5: You just don't expect eighty two games. I don't think

862
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 5: he has not hit the double digits.

863
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 2: He might have. Yeah, he won't have another game like this,

864
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 2: but he can have bad games for him, which is

865
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 2: like sixteen and seven he could have maybe he can.

866
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 2: He also have like three blocks. He can probably have

867
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 2: at eighty two, could probably have like ten games.

868
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: I think for me, I don't I don't think games.

869
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 2: Like this, No, not like this, none like this, none

870
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: like this, none like he have two games like he

871
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 2: had two or three games like seventeen. But I'm saying

872
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 2: sixteen and sixteen and nine is a bad game because

873
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 2: he averages thirty and fifteen. So if he has fifteen

874
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 2: half of it sixteen in seats, that's a bad night.

875
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 2: He could probably have ten of those nights, nights like this.

876
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 2: You gonna have like three of these nights. You gonna

877
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 2: have like three in the season. I think if he

878
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 2: he's not gonna have him But how many singles you have?

879
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 2: But how many are allowed in m VP conversation season?

880
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: Maybe three?

881
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: He If he continues to have the super high usage

882
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: that he's got currently and he's playing so efficiently on offense, I.

883
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 2: Think he's gonna keep keep it fright. He'll be fine.

884
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: Pelicans own six. They've lost my thirty. I think three

885
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 1: times there's trouble brewing thirty.

886
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 5: There's trouble brewing over there own six.

887
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: The Nets own seven, both still looking for their first

888
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: wins of this season. I feel like you guys have

889
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: played on some damn strong teams.

890
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been fortunate enough to not have you ever

891
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 2: started a year like this? I started owing two. That's it.

892
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: What was your What was your worst season in the NBA?

893
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,919
Speaker 2: Maybe oh and two oh and three worst season.

894
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 1: Like over the course of a season.

895
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, that is a good question, bro. What was

896
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 2: y'all were very lucky, probably like.

897
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 3: Thirty thirty something thirty three wins.

898
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: I don't think think I lost.

899
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 3: I never when I was playing as a star, I

900
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 3: never lost less than thirty games. I mean I never,

901
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 3: like you know what I'm saying. It wasn't in the

902
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 3: twenties or oh to seven.

903
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think either one of these teams are

904
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: gonna get into the thirties.

905
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: Crazy enough, Robin on some lucky ass like some really

906
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 2: good teams. I don't think I got less than like

907
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 2: forty eight, Like damn, like most of our season in

908
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 2: Santurno fifty one season, yea, even in Philly we had

909
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 2: so maybe Philly we had one. Like, but you're still

910
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 2: like top two, three seed, which is like forty eight fifty,

911
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

912
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: Like, damn, you don't even know what it's like to

913
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: be on a team where not NBA your next, you next,

914
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: your next win is nowhere in sight. Damn, Like you

915
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: don't even know how or when you're gonna win again.

916
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 2: At this point, it's like those guys is in the

917
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 2: locker room, like when you start off, oh for six,

918
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 2: oh for seven, Like what's I'm just trying to remember

919
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 2: that Detroit year where they were just they were like

920
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 2: over twenty like like they celebrated. It's getting that one

921
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: win off their back when they're like one in twenty

922
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: one and seven one and twenty three or something something

923
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 2: crazy like that.

924
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 3: It's just a different mindset now because guys be like, man,

925
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 3: we you know, we ain't all that good, but they

926
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 3: make it bank.

927
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then talking to Norman's in a pick up

928
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 2: in a messed up situation because they can't even if

929
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 2: they tank that pick Yeah.

930
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: They gave it away and gave it.

931
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 3: If I started off all six on the seven, I'm

932
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 3: gonna go out there and buy me something nice.

933
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 2: Just to feel better about yourself.

934
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 1: Better'na give me to change the mood.

935
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 3: Give me something.

936
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: I got a car or something with a new crib.

937
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,240
Speaker 3: Something, Hold on, man, let me go give me something

938
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 3: just so I.

939
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: Know, because that's miserable.

940
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 2: Because but Brooklyn got some things to look for, like

941
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 2: lottery wise, they can look forward.

942
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, but the guys on the team don't care about

943
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 5: the lottery.

944
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 2: You know, they're still trying to groom the young guys,

945
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 2: trying to get paid, you know, like they're guys that

946
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 2: still have goals for themselves.

947
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,959
Speaker 1: And then just.

948
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 2: So again, So the question is, if you're in the

949
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 2: locker room like this, what are you saying to the

950
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 2: team to turn it around.

951
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 3: If I'm the guy, I'm like, we just gotta not

952
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 3: look at the record. We gotta take this one game

953
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 3: at a time. Get off the one. We have to

954
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 3: get off the snow in our practice. We gotta practice,

955
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 3: you know, we can't.

956
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: Teams don't practice.

957
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 3: They don't practice.

958
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 2: Those teams gotta practice, and you gotta approach. We gotta practice.

959
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 3: We gotta practice. I'm telling the coach, we gotta practice.

960
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 3: We can't afford to be out here. We're doing walkthroughs,

961
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 3: got you. We gotta get off this now. This is embarrassing,

962
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 3: you know, not only to me, my family. My friends

963
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 3: are French, Like, come on, dog, if I got any

964
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 3: kind of pride about myself and about this team, it's

965
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 3: gonna be it's gonna be somebody. It's gonna be pissed

966
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 3: off play coming up.

967
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Nets. The Nets have been good enough

968
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: to build up a decent enough fan base, and people

969
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: go to their games in New Orleans. If they're bad,

970
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: nobody's going to those damn games. They're so far down

971
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: to pecking order in terms behind the Saints and l

972
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: s U football in that area. And so if you're

973
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: just putting our own six product, now you're playing an

974
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: empty gyms, miserable.

975
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 3: Man, it's gonna be damn near a fighting practice or something.

976
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 2: All right, now, I like this.

977
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: Let's get to our Picks of the Night, presented by

978
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: Prize Picks, and we got a pretty good lineup for

979
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: you guys. So let's get right into it. Philly at Chicago.

980
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 2: Interesting fact, I don't think Joel's ever lost at Chicago.

981
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 5: He's never lost in Chicago.

982
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 2: Last time I was there, lest my scene. I don't

983
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 2: think he's ever lost to the Chicago boats at Chicago.

984
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

985
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 2: So for his his more or less is eighteen and

986
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 2: a half. I'm gonna say more more. I think he's bumped.

987
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 2: He's getting twenty five. Man, he might get twenty five

988
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 2: third and he always plays well in Chicago, Tyers Max.

989
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 2: He got twenty seven and a half. Now that's the

990
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 2: tricky one. More he had twenty six and twenty six.

991
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 2: I think last two nights he's gonna get a thirty

992
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: balls again. Is it more or less twenty seven and

993
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:28,959
Speaker 2: a half.

994
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: I'm going less, going less again. I'm riding to the streak.

995
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 1: He's gonna play well, but he's not gonna drop thirty.

996
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 3: Chicago the young team, they get lost on defense. I'm

997
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 3: going more.

998
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go more, more for Time, go more for Joelle.

999
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: I'm actually going more for Joel too. I learned my lesson.

1000
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 1: I'm not realizingough.

1001
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 2: Though minutes eighteen a half is still like a tricky situation.

1002
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 1: He got twenty the last couple well, but he's he's

1003
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 1: gotten up to twenty five minutes.

1004
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 3: He's the minutes are ramping up.

1005
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's more so what I'm uh looking at. Yes,

1006
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 2: they make it twenty seven minutes, which more chances.

1007
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go.

1008
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go more for Joel and b We'll go

1009
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 3: more and more.

1010
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 2: Okay, so you we had more, you only want that

1011
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 2: did less for Tyres. Yes, everybody else is more for yes,

1012
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 2: Joel and tyres Son. Uh huh, okay, so they happened

1013
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 2: in the last two years. I think. Okay, so Joel

1014
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:27,240
Speaker 2: has lost since.

1015
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty three. When did you leave Philly.

1016
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty three?

1017
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 3: A you?

1018
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:40,240
Speaker 2: Uh, I'm gonna go they they both got good records.

1019
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 2: They're both gonna be like five sixty one.

1020
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna pick the Sixers Sixers to win this.

1021
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go Philly. I'm gonna go Philly. I'm

1022
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 2: gonna go Philly, Chicago and balling. Is Kobe White coming back?

1023
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:53,720
Speaker 2: Kobe White's coming back taking shot.

1024
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,439
Speaker 1: Down at home shown at home.

1025
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 2: If Kobe White is coming back, then I might, But

1026
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 2: I don't know. If Kobe they fast, they fast. Yeah,

1027
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 2: they just getting put up put up numbers.

1028
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 3: Oh wait wait wait, I'm changing minds. I'm changing minds.

1029
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 3: I'm going less. I'm going less for Maxie okay and

1030
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 3: more for him. B Yeah, he gonna have to play

1031
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 3: some defense.

1032
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gonna wear him out.

1033
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 3: He's gonna, dude, you gonna have to play some defense.

1034
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 2: They guard him.

1035
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 3: Now, you're gonna they're gonna get that switch. I'm going

1036
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 3: less for Maxie. Less for Max, it's gonna be tired.

1037
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: Sons at the Warriors, Devin Booking more or less than

1038
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: twenty eight and a half, I'm less.

1039
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 3: I'm going less with them.

1040
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go less as well against the war Yeah,

1041
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 2: they just had a good game. He had a good night.

1042
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 2: They beat the Spurs.

1043
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 3: Thirty.

1044
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's only six games in.

1045
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 3: The Warriors. Who they got at the two guard?

1046
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 2: You got, they played really good basketball, bro, Switch Moody,

1047
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 2: they got Jimmy Moody, KAMINGADM. I'm cool. I'm going less.

1048
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:59,240
Speaker 2: They're gonna throw different body place depense, smart high you guys,

1049
00:50:59,280 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go more.

1050
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 3: You know what, I just feel like when you're on

1051
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:06,479
Speaker 3: a team like Phoenix and you play against that that

1052
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 3: that word team, who got or in that building to

1053
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 3: be up for those games. Yeah, as a great player

1054
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 3: up for those facts, he gonna go more.

1055
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 5: Jimmy Butler more or less than twenty and a half.

1056
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 3: Jimmy, I mean, y'all know, regular season, Jimmy be up

1057
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 3: and down.

1058
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 2: Hit a miss bro. It's a hit a miss bro

1059
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 2: regular season. But he's been playing well in Golden State,

1060
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 2: so like he's been he's been on his he's been

1061
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 2: back on his his you know his grind out that.

1062
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna I'm gonna go more. I'm gonna go more.

1063
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go less on Jimmy more for me, all right,

1064
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 3: I got it less all right.

1065
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 5: So just some silly season in the NBA.

1066
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: I just don't understand what we're doing with professional sports.

1067
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 1: We're like, we're discouraging guys from celebrating and having fun.

1068
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so jorsmanship, man, The kids are watching, so you

1069
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 2: gotta promote sportsmanship, right, touchdown celebration is cool, though some

1070
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 2: of them are cool, right the kids?

1071
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 5: The kids are doing worse ship.

1072
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 3: Than this and then watching way worse things on social media,

1073
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 3: like what they're seeing right.

1074
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: Here Joel Embiid if you don't know, he's apparently he's

1075
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: a big fan of Yeah, Degeneration X wrestling, and he

1076
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 1: did the suck it again. He's a repeat offender, so

1077
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: they found him fifty thousand dollars. Do you gout? And

1078
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: even by the way, even the throat slash bring that back? Why?

1079
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: Why are we being like babies?

1080
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 2: So the question is who has the best most iconic

1081
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 2: celebration in your opinion?

1082
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: Sam?

1083
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 2: Sam samself with the big balls.

1084
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 3: The one that was Agie something that was Agie though, Yeah,

1085
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 3: you're fine for that now, you get fine for that now.

1086
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: But tumble with the finger wag like I remember that

1087
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: all the time. I think this Steph Night Night is

1088
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 1: hard to top.

1089
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 2: That is a good one as well. Again, I don't

1090
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 2: know if he was the originator of that.

1091
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:14,439
Speaker 1: Who originated that?

1092
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 2: They said it was a soccer dude, right or something

1093
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 2: like that.

1094
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: Oh, you allowed to steal from other leagues?

1095
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:20,919
Speaker 3: No, I'm going with the James.

1096
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 2: Hard okay, ice ice trade this is cool too.

1097
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 5: I speaking of Jim cole Palmer from Chelsea.

1098
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 2: Trey got a fire one club.

1099
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 5: Cole Palmer said he started it because his name.

1100
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 2: Is cold, so he does that ice trade again.

1101
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: But Tray is like, no, I was the first. They

1102
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: actually arguing over who was the first.

1103
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 2: To night is dope? Ice trade is dope? Joel got

1104
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:52,959
Speaker 2: a doupte one Sam Iconic game time. I'm gonna go Sam.

1105
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 2: I am No, I'm I'm a guy as well.

1106
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, good, all right, man.

1107
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 2: So we also a question. I'd never gotten fined for

1108
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,280
Speaker 2: a celebration. Have you ever gotten fined for a celebration?

1109
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: Have you ever been fined in your life? Wait?

1110
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 2: And they weren't even worth it. I wish I got

1111
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 2: the money.

1112
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: So every technical foul is a fine?

1113
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,720
Speaker 2: Absolutely how much? How much? Maybe five of my career

1114
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 2: I had like one in my whole Spurs tenure. Then

1115
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 2: I got like one year in trying to call the

1116
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 2: text for anything year, I got like three that year,

1117
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 2: and then maybe like two more. So I probably have

1118
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 2: less than ten in my career, like maybe seven. I

1119
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 2: feel like half of them I didn't get my money's worth.

1120
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,720
Speaker 2: I really wanted to Paul, You've gotten a decent amount

1121
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 2: of text.

1122
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 3: Now, I don't think. I don't got no funds, nothing crazy.

1123
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 1: Nothing crazy model NBA citizens.

1124
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 3: Here try to be I don't remember if I did, truthfully,

1125
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 3: I don't.

1126
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: Know, all right, So next up, man, I wanted to

1127
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: get you guys on the record for our show about

1128
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: all of the controversy that's been swirling around the NBA

1129
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: surrounding these different gambling arrests. Uh. We know, Terry Rozier

1130
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: got arrested for leegendly giving away inside information for the

1131
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 1: purposes of wagering on games. Chauncey Billups is being accused

1132
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:18,959
Speaker 1: of being part of a poker ring that was defrauding

1133
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: people with like all kinds of underhanded tactics and involved

1134
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,959
Speaker 1: with the Five Families in New York and like shit,

1135
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: that sounds like straight out of a movie. This is America.

1136
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,439
Speaker 1: These folks are innocent until proven guilty. They haven't been tried,

1137
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 1: they haven't had their day in court.

1138
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 2: Not everybody's America, but yeah, it should be that way.

1139
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 1: Well on this show. They're innocent until proven guilty.

1140
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 2: And it's definitely been We had Jontay Porter last year,

1141
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 2: Blik Beasley gil but Arenas having being at a poker

1142
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 2: situation at somebody's house.

1143
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 1: There's a lot of this stuff sort of around that's

1144
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: been around the league, but just as sports in general,

1145
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 1: since gambling has become legal and people want to know,

1146
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: like how detrimental to the product? Do you think this

1147
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: stuff is?

1148
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 2: Man? That's that's a tough question, bro, because gambling is

1149
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 2: all around us and you can't avoid it. And I

1150
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 2: don't think it's a problem in the NBA because again,

1151
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 2: there's four to fifty every year. I think we've had

1152
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 2: a handful of guys and some of them are retired.

1153
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 2: One of them's coaching, like there's maybe two or three

1154
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 2: players out of four P fifty in the last three years.

1155
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a big issue. But in the

1156
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 2: same breath, like there's issues with more guys on social media,

1157
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 2: like getting get into a fans over prop bets and

1158
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 2: she's like, oh, you didn't. I think guys have more

1159
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 2: issues with fans because of the betting, and we didn't

1160
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 2: have that type of back and forth or that type

1161
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,919
Speaker 2: of ridicule criticism or the type of bs on social media.

1162
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 2: But until the gambler became more like a parent, more legalized,

1163
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 2: more worldwide, and it's just that it's all it's throwing

1164
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 2: in your face everywhere. Now it's like if they're not

1165
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 2: doing gambling, you're behind. So I have no issue with it.

1166
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 2: Gamble responsibly. Has it shifted the culture since I've been playing, Yes,

1167
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 2: the gambling culture is very different. Again, some guys gamble

1168
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 2: on planes as cards, but sports gambling. I say you guys,

1169
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 2: stay away from it. If you if you if you can,

1170
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 2: you know you shouldn't be gambled on sports. But if

1171
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 2: you want to gamble on cards, gamble responsibly. Make sure

1172
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 2: it doesn't affect your households, make sure you don't you know,

1173
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 2: lose light, you know, sleep or light bills or food

1174
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 2: or meals and you know you can still feed your family.

1175
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't think it's a huge issue. But yes,

1176
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 2: certain things need to be touched up. But it's hard

1177
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 2: to avoid. So it's it's all over the world, you know,

1178
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 2: to say, certain guys, because this is your profession, you shouldn't.

1179
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 2: You're not allowed to do this. It's tough, but yes,

1180
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 2: you know, stay away from because your jobs. Stay away

1181
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 2: from the sports games, Stay away from that sports, stay

1182
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 2: from whatever in your city. If it's illegal to do

1183
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 2: poker in that city, don't fucking do poker, you know

1184
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:11,439
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

1185
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 3: So, but yeah, I truly believe that gambling today amongst

1186
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 3: like say, the players and coaches and referees all. I

1187
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 3: think it's less now than it was before. I do.

1188
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 3: And you know, because now there's so many outlets for it, right,

1189
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 3: so it's easier to get caught, whereas before, if you

1190
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 3: call a bookie quiet, it'd be somebody that lived in

1191
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 3: Puero Rico or the Bahamas overseas, you know what I'm saying. So,

1192
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 3: like it's just about the integrity of it, Like how

1193
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 3: do you catch those guys from back in the day.

1194
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 3: I think more people got away with yeah than you

1195
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 3: can now. Yes, I truly believe that. And I don't

1196
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 3: know one hardercent. But if you just look at it,

1197
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 3: like these guys got caught because of the bet sizes

1198
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 3: and you saw you talk about and then the Chauncey

1199
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 3: Billups situation, well, I don't know, you know the situation

1200
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 3: with that, You know that has nothing to do with Yes.

1201
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: Yes, if what they're saying is true about Chauncey, that

1202
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: means he got in with a bad crowd, literally actual gangsters,

1203
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: and made some bad decisions.

1204
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 3: I truly believe that they are. Like truly, I truly

1205
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 3: believe that is not the ring leader.

1206
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: No he's not, he's not. It's just the NBA players.

1207
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: So this FBI is addicted to publicity, like like I

1208
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: never knew what who the FBI directed was before. Like ever,

1209
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 1: this dude's on TV every single day. This cash will

1210
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: tell dude. He clearly loves headlines. And so when he's

1211
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: announcing the arrest, he's leading with the most famous people

1212
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: that they rounded up, not that they're the most important,

1213
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 1: because yes, and that's that's what that seems like to me.

1214
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: But again, I don't think get that day in court.

1215
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, when people want to know

1216
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: like that the game has integrity and what they're watching

1217
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: isn't some guy screwing around with a bunch of bets,

1218
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: I think. I think. I think the NBA is a

1219
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 1: good standing in terms of integrity. And I could already

1220
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 1: hear people in the comments whatever, oh you guys are

1221
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 1: presented by Prize Picks. Oh you guys are shills for

1222
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: the NBA, blah blah blah blah.

1223
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 5: And I would agree with what what Paul is saying.

1224
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, guys like Prize Picks, DraftKings, name It, name

1225
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 1: any one of those those companies. They're not in the

1226
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: business of just being defrauded out of money that hundreds

1227
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:51,959
Speaker 1: of thousands and millions at a time.

1228
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 5: That's why these dudes are getting caught.

1229
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's again, the technology now is easy to get caught.

1230
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 2: So now people know that they're more paranoid to notan like,

1231
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 2: why would there be millions?

1232
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: John r on what plan with mad NBA fans be

1233
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: sitting at their crib like, yo, I gotta put a

1234
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 1: John Tate port.

1235
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 2: A ticket in again. It's dumb to be on anyone

1236
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 2: those platforms and use your personal name informat. It's just

1237
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 2: so it's easy to get caught, and it can track,

1238
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 2: it can find the trail, easy to so.

1239
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: And again, I think these are the growing pains for

1240
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 1: all of the sports leagues. Again, it's not just the

1241
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: NBA of this is a new thing that is being

1242
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: integrated into the league. And I think this is this

1243
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: is just part of the growing pains, honestly for sure.

1244
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: And I'm personally and I don't think fans should be

1245
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 1: worried about yo is Kad going hard enough tonight because

1246
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: he has his under like bro, he's a billionaire, bro

1247
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: Like he's good. Yeah, these are these are the most

1248
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: I think there's another thing like people don't realize you guys,

1249
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: other NBA players is some of the most competitive people

1250
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:05,919
Speaker 1: ever that these guys want to win.

1251
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 5: These guys are competitors.

1252
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: Like this. I did at a bunch of players in

1253
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 1: the league. It's just like, you know, I want to

1254
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: I want I want to do parlays like it just

1255
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 1: it just it just doesn't pass the smell test for me.

1256
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 1: All right, man, we we got another no fouls giving

1257
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 1: ranking coming up.

1258
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 5: I think our little clip on social where I.

1259
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 2: Got a lot of heat again again, m VP ranking.

1260
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 1: Right now, being married to anyone, top three, that's all

1261
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 1: he's saying.

1262
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 2: Again, I still stand where I'm at right now. But

1263
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 2: you know, when we had a tough game, but Denver

1264
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 2: losing to Portland, I'm not, I can't. It can't happen.

1265
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 2: So Portland's Portland solid chance to win the time, so

1266
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 2: you felt und, I'm like, but you know, neither one.

1267
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 2: He hasn't taken a leap to be like yo, I

1268
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 2: need for sure, Like there's gonna be a point of

1269
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 2: season where he canna be like, all right, we gotta

1270
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,439
Speaker 2: for sure. I gotta have him in there. God, right now,

1271
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 2: Wemby's in there for me has been killing too.

1272
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: So we're ranking point guards, which as a New York

1273
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 1: City native, it's.

1274
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 2: Crazy they don't have done up there. Donovan Mitchell's not

1275
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 2: up there.

1276
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 5: But is he a point guard?

1277
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 2: I mean at his side, I mean, what else could

1278
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 2: he be? He's the two they both.

1279
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 5: He definitely played point guard even in Utah they.

1280
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: Had Mike even healthy right now playing but Donovan Mitchell, yeah,

1281
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 1: he's definitely doing more on ballwork.

1282
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 5: But I don't think of him as a two guard,

1283
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 5: and I think, in fact, like you.

1284
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 1: Don't think of the two guards, I mean as a

1285
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: point guard. So I'm sorry, And in fact, I think

1286
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 1: he's elevated by doing less point guard duties and playing

1287
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 1: next to Darius Garland. But top five point guards right now,

1288
01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: we got SGA. Just listen to some options. S g A, Maxie, Brunson,

1289
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:14,320
Speaker 1: LaMelo Ball, Trey Young, Jamal Murray, Steph Cad Cunningham, Darius Garland.

1290
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 2: Give us our top five first, right, all right, So

1291
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 2: my top five I think it's pretty simple, man, s

1292
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,479
Speaker 2: g A. For sure, gotta beat in there. I'm gonna

1293
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 2: put Brunson in there. For sure. I'm gonna put Kid

1294
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 2: in there, and Steph. Then I'm gonna go. I'm gonna

1295
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 2: put a young Tyrese Maxie in there.

1296
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 1: That's five. Five, Yeah, is not going in my five.

1297
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 3: Mine is in order.

1298
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, I'm gonna.

1299
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 3: Right in order. Top five point guards right now. S

1300
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 3: g A is the number one point guard. The number

1301
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 3: two point guard for me is Steph Curry the number

1302
01:04:56,640 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 3: three point guard. I'm gonna go Brunson the number four

1303
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Speaker 3: point guard that I'm taking today. Let's see, that's Punson

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01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take today. This is I'm gonna take a Lamello. Okay,

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01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 3: I got him at four. Whoa because none of these

1306
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 3: other guys have separated themselves as far as they're all young.

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01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 3: And then number five I'm taking I'm taking Ja Morant.

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01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 2: Okay, Ja Morant your fifth. You're taking Melo over Kate

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01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:29,479
Speaker 2: All NBA last year.

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01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 3: I mean, Kate had a good year last year, you

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01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And one playoff appearance.

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01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 1: Just loves the three, the deep threes in the crazy I.

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01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 3: Mean, he having a good year. But I want to

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01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 3: pay to see LaMelo.

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01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 2: Okay, So these are guys you're most excited.

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01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 3: I'm not paying to go see him, no matter where

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01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 3: he got. I love Kate, gonna put up numbers, He's

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01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 3: very productive. All NBA better team. But I'm paying to

1319
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 3: go see Mello got you, And that's why I got it,

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01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 3: because he's exciting.

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01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, my top five no particular order.

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01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 1: I give an order for the top three, but definitely Shae, Steph, Brunson, Maxie,

1323
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,439
Speaker 1: and I'm probably going.

1324
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 2: Jimal I was an offensive.

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01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 1: The stuff this guy has done in the postseason it's

1326
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 1: like it's next level. Man. I like the way that

1327
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 1: he started the year to.

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01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 2: Its crazy.

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01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 1: That is kind of crazy. But y'all, he's not in

1330
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 1: my five. Give me your top three, now, top three,

1331
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 1: Chase Steph Brunton.

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01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 5: I'm going Brunson, I'm going Burnson.

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01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 1: I'm going sha Stephan Brnston.

1334
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 2: So yeah, that was my right. I'm going Shay.

1335
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 1: Step And I think Kate is making a very strong

1336
01:06:56,360 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 1: push obviously, so Maxie, Oh, I'm gonna go Shay Brunton.

1337
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put Kate in there.

1338
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 1: Man, Katie is your third best point guard in the NBA. Yeah,

1339
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: he's not better than Steph Curry. Bro.

1340
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 2: Come on, man, have you seen steph numbers?

1341
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 1: Have you have some respect for I have a lot

1342
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 1: of respect for the chef.

1343
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 3: He don't have the same gravitational pool though.

1344
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:22,919
Speaker 1: No.

1345
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 3: I see Steph on a two on a two on

1346
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 3: one break and three guys ran to him and he

1347
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 3: threw it.

1348
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:34,919
Speaker 2: For sure, Sure AT's done it. That's gonna fifteen years.

1349
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 2: So Steph has that for fifteen years, man. But right now,

1350
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 2: I gotta go with the younger.

1351
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 5: I just want to shovel dirt on the old head.

1352
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 2: Not at all, Man, not at all. Stephan was my

1353
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 2: top five. I just think again, they had a down

1354
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:50,120
Speaker 2: year last year. He have twenty one twenty two. Sure

1355
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 2: that was down. Here do you think it's gonna get

1356
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 2: better than last year?

1357
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 5: I just think ultimately, like they don't need.

1358
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:57,439
Speaker 2: Him as much because he has better people around him.

1359
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 1: I go into a game Kati needed more. I have

1360
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 1: to have a dedicated game plan for Steph Curry. That's

1361
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 1: not the case for Kate cutting in.

1362
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 2: Shouldn't me? No, you play Detroit Pistons. Who's your game

1363
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 2: planning for? No?

1364
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 1: I mean no, of course he's accounted for, But like me,

1365
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 1: all five guys don't have.

1366
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 5: To be locked into what Kate is doing.

1367
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:22,640
Speaker 2: Me. No, what ain't nobody stepping on the floor. K

1368
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:24,679
Speaker 2: kind of coming to that building? You don't know who

1369
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 2: he is and what the hell? You better know how

1370
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 2: to guard him if you don't, Why not yet?

1371
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 3: Losing sleepover k just just I'm getting he's getting I'm

1372
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 3: losing like an hour sleep like like you know, but

1373
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 3: I gotta get some rest, shot I gotta get I'm worried.

1374
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 2: I'm worried about Steph. I don't worry about the Golden State

1375
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 2: team as a whole, because they're just a good system.

1376
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, Detroit.

1377
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 2: The only person I'm worried about his kid cut I

1378
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 2: ain't worry about nobody else.

1379
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 3: You you might go to dinner the night before for

1380
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 3: k you not going to service.

1381
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 2: Maybe last year, before last year, before last year, I

1382
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 2: would say that after last year, respect, I'm going to sleep.

1383
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 2: I'm listening. I'm again.

1384
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 1: He's just a big cave fan.

1385
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:18,839
Speaker 2: And played against him, I was like, yo, he's surprised

1386
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 2: even when I was older by playing And then I'm

1387
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 2: like watching what did last year?

1388
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 1: He was?

1389
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 2: He turned Detroit around. They were a non playoff, the

1390
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 2: bottom of the bottom to being in the playoffs as

1391
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 2: a was a sixty yeah yeah, and he was m VP.

1392
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 2: Conversation all NBA, all like all NBA third team.

1393
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 1: I get it, but he's no.

1394
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:41,679
Speaker 2: You gotta put some respect on us. I'm not saying

1395
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 2: he is, but I put him in the top and said,

1396
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 2: now Steph's not in his prime. Though we're not saying

1397
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:47,600
Speaker 2: Stephan is prime, I'm saying Stephan.

1398
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:51,759
Speaker 5: Damn about it makes a difference, bro the prime Steph Curry.

1399
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 1: Right now, you gotta win a game for your life

1400
01:09:55,479 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 1: Tomorrow You're picking Caid cunning In over Steph Curry right now,

1401
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 1: that's crazy to me. That is insane to me.

1402
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:14,759
Speaker 2: One game is different than overall. Even then again, Steph

1403
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 2: got more experience depending on what the game is. Yeah,

1404
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 2: Steph thirty seven years old. Bro, Now if it's Stephan

1405
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 2: is prime, Stephan shore in the top three, but he's

1406
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 2: still still I'm.

1407
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 1: Still rolling with Steph.

1408
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 3: I'm taking Steph thish. I'm gonna not next year, but

1409
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 3: this year.

1410
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 1: I.

1411
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 3: Seek I'm gonna take Steph one last year, you.

1412
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 2: Know, I might go to take I've had a forty

1413
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 2: ball start the season after that, what was it like, sixteen, seventeen,

1414
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 2: twenty one.

1415
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they don't. They don't need him to go

1416
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 3: there like there every now.

1417
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 2: Again, he's not needed as much. Kate is needed more.

1418
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 3: That's why to me, like, hey actually got a deeper

1419
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:52,639
Speaker 3: team as far as talent wise than.

1420
01:10:52,960 --> 01:11:02,520
Speaker 5: Nah solinga.

1421
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 2: Buddy Heal.

1422
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 1: Dre all right this, Yeah, they're gonna they're gonna flame

1423
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 1: you on social for this, but I'm happy about it.

1424
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:12,800
Speaker 2: Respect stuff. Bro. I just think this year, I said,

1425
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 2: and step prime stuff for sure, but I'm seeing like

1426
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 2: not everybody everybody point guards in the history of life exactly.

1427
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 5: So of course that's better than Cade Cunning.

1428
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 2: Everybody ages Bro not everybody's Lebron. James that year twenty

1429
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 2: three still like he went down a step last year.

1430
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 2: I just assume he's gonna take another step down this

1431
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:36,719
Speaker 2: year again, which he's able to do because his team

1432
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 2: is better. His team is good.

1433
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 5: No, your logic is sound. I just think I just disagree.

1434
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:48,200
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