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Speaker 1: Gangster Chronicles podcast Today. You don't have the homies with me,
Speaker 1: but I do have a very very special guest at
Speaker 1: digg in the House for y'all to day, one of
Speaker 1: the most mythic brothers from New York. You know what,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can give him the proper
Speaker 1: introduction that he needs. Man, do me a favor. Tell
Speaker 1: the people where you're from. First of all, I'm from Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: New York that started the exact Lafayette Gardens projects, better
Speaker 1: known as LG. Yeah, LG, my name is fruit Pom,
Speaker 1: also known as dig fruit Fruit. That's what. And there
Speaker 1: are years right there. Seeing I'm gonna explaining to everybody something.
Speaker 1: The dynamics on the West Coast and the East Coast
Speaker 1: is like night and day, not a day. L gez
Speaker 1: twenty floors right, each building twenty floors? No, we got
Speaker 1: seven buildings in the four block raids. Three out of
Speaker 1: the seven buildings got twenty floors. Okay, that's what I
Speaker 1: was saying. The other four buildings may have thirteen to fifteen.
Speaker 1: That's still big though yall was an actual skyscrapers then
Speaker 1: pretty much. Yeah, but seven buildings is very very small
Speaker 1: compared to other housing projects throughout New York City. That's
Speaker 1: what Dog he was telling me. Dog he was saying that,
Speaker 1: y'all kind of like the smallest projects. But you gotta understand,
Speaker 1: on the West Coast, we don't have no stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Everything is short. Everything is short and kind of spread
Speaker 1: out like you may see some town houses or something
Speaker 1: like that. You look like town houses almost right, and
Speaker 1: they just wind up right next to each other and
Speaker 1: on top of each other. And I always used to ask, Dog,
Speaker 1: you say man, New York cats seemed like they move
Speaker 1: a little different. I understand why now y'all living on
Speaker 1: top of each other back in that motherfucker. So you
Speaker 1: gotta it's pretty much when you do your history, when
Speaker 1: you go back into African history and things like that
Speaker 1: and slavery, you know how they stacked us up on
Speaker 1: the boats on top of each other. That's all it was.
Speaker 1: They brung their ship to the housing projects and stacked
Speaker 1: the soul up on top of each other like slave ships.
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, And that's what I saw. Now, you thought
Speaker 1: the ports man like prior to the crack era, he was,
Speaker 1: he was running the streets way before the crack era.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say that the crack
Speaker 1: era came about. It started in the Bronx for sure.
Speaker 1: And then you're talking early early eighties, man, like eight three,
Speaker 1: forty five. Maybe I came out of the house in
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty maybe three. I'm eighty three to Big Sact.
Speaker 1: I never forget. It was eighty three July, the night
Speaker 1: Diana Ross hit Central Park. That's my first day at
Speaker 1: the house. I watched one of my older cousins get
Speaker 1: dressed he's about to hit the block. Go take him
Speaker 1: some money, because that's what he was back then in
Speaker 1: the early eighties. Uh dudes in Brooklyn, Brownsville and bed
Speaker 1: styt he was on some snatching diamonds and take them
Speaker 1: to the scale and you did their money that way. Um.
Speaker 1: I had an older cousin that was his that was
Speaker 1: his swag, and I watched him get dressed that day
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty three. He on his way to sent
Speaker 1: you Park to go take money, and I actually could
Speaker 1: I go with it, and he told me, you'll take
Speaker 1: me with him as long as I wasn't scared to
Speaker 1: take nobody. So I came out the house that day,
Speaker 1: that historical day, Diana role set that stage and sent
Speaker 1: you Park and he started raining. I came out the
Speaker 1: house that day, brother, So that's three snatching pockets off,
Speaker 1: And that's what I wanted to get into because that
Speaker 1: was a big thing, and that was a big thing
Speaker 1: for y'all back then. Pretty much tearing somebody's pockets off,
Speaker 1: going to somebody's pockets. Okay, Now, when I came out
Speaker 1: the house with that, that's what it was. Digging your
Speaker 1: hand in somebody's pockets, snatching money and run. But prior
Speaker 1: to me coming out of the house, the older generations
Speaker 1: before me, what they used to do was called joscelyn.
Speaker 1: It's just a different name of pickpocket. Okay, So the
Speaker 1: older generation, that's what they used to do, the Joscelyn,
Speaker 1: which is called pickpocket. By the time I came out
Speaker 1: the house a few years later, dudes got tired of
Speaker 1: the hustle and bustle that comes with pickpocket. They just
Speaker 1: started snatching the whole pockets off. Man. And it's almost
Speaker 1: like a universal appeal right there. So you know you'll
Speaker 1: got all this going on, man, and you got your
Speaker 1: first being in eighty seven, Yes, sir, Halloween eighty seven,
Speaker 1: I was thirteen years old. Now you're thirteen years old, man,
Speaker 1: and you're going to pretty much with juvenile jail, right
Speaker 1: right right. Can you speak on what it was that
Speaker 1: you did to put you in that position? Okay? In
Speaker 1: New York City when I when I came out of
Speaker 1: the house in the early eighties, I don't know what
Speaker 1: it was about, but every Halloween, I can't compare it
Speaker 1: to the l A Rice. Don't get it twisted, but
Speaker 1: just imagine the l A rants on a minor scale.
Speaker 1: This is every Halloween in Brooklyn, New York. Wow, every
Speaker 1: Halloween in Brooklyn, New York, two hundred to three hundred
Speaker 1: dudes from every house and projects just get together and
Speaker 1: run rampant in New York City, throwing cocktail bombs, busting
Speaker 1: jury store windows, running up and store snatching clothes, throwing
Speaker 1: eggs like that's what they did on Halloween in the
Speaker 1: eighties in Brooklyn. Why, I have no idea, and I
Speaker 1: was just running them up with everybody else. So on
Speaker 1: Halloween eighties seven, that's what was going on. And I
Speaker 1: dug a pocket and the police was a block away
Speaker 1: on a steakout. Oh man. So as we're running wow,
Speaker 1: doing what we're doing, the police got us in eyesight,
Speaker 1: and I guess when I made my move, they jumped
Speaker 1: out and began to chase us. And I had nowhere
Speaker 1: to go. I had nowhere to go, So you just
Speaker 1: gave it up. Now, how was you feeling? She was
Speaker 1: thirteen years old, He was a little kid man at
Speaker 1: the time. I was trying to get away. But when
Speaker 1: they caught me, you know, that's when that thirteen year
Speaker 1: old child, kicking, crying like a baby, snocked bubbling in
Speaker 1: my nose. Please don't take me to jail. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I get the money back. I tried all that. Ain't
Speaker 1: none of that work. They processed me. Let me know,
Speaker 1: my grandmother was not taking me home, and I was
Speaker 1: going to sprofit which was the Juvenile Potential Center in
Speaker 1: New York City then, and going there, I cried on
Speaker 1: that whole drive to the Bronx from Brooklyn, New York, snoped,
Speaker 1: bubbling in my nose, begging them please to give me
Speaker 1: another chance. I'll never do it again. Ain't none of
Speaker 1: that work, None of that work? How long did you
Speaker 1: wind up doing? Uh? I ended up getting an eighteen
Speaker 1: months sentence in family court October eighty seven. I ended
Speaker 1: up coming home. Maybe I had an eighteen months sentence,
Speaker 1: I might have did fourteen months out of it. So
Speaker 1: I think about a year and some change out of that.
Speaker 1: At the juvenile facility called Berthshire Farms up state in
Speaker 1: New York. And it's a real famous place because it
Speaker 1: was a private facility. It wasn't a state owned facility.
Speaker 1: It was privately owned, and the majority of the children
Speaker 1: there were sent there by their parents and families. You
Speaker 1: know what they got. And a thing called pens petition.
Speaker 1: When your family can't control you, you want to send
Speaker 1: them away. The courts sent the majority of those kids there.
Speaker 1: Me being so young, they gave me a chance to
Speaker 1: come to that facility as opposed to go into one
Speaker 1: of those rougher juvenile facilities that I could have landed it. Okay,
Speaker 1: So pretty much they're like, what was the experience like
Speaker 1: in there, because you said that was kind of like
Speaker 1: the lightweight spot right. Uh, where I did my jewel
Speaker 1: now bid was very much like, very very very much
Speaker 1: like it was a blessing as a It was more
Speaker 1: of a blessing than a punishment. That this was a
Speaker 1: non secure facility where guys, you had the opportunity to earn,
Speaker 1: the opportunity to go home every month. Uh. You participated
Speaker 1: in local high school sports. So when I shook up
Speaker 1: the basketball court, I was in the dealer, I was
Speaker 1: in the local newspapers. I was I was being scouted
Speaker 1: by high schools and even junior colleges that were locally.
Speaker 1: That's not the treatment of a of a child in
Speaker 1: the JUPI now facility, Oh no, not at all. You're
Speaker 1: actually giving the kid a chance to actually still have
Speaker 1: a future, right, that's what they was giving me. But
Speaker 1: I was too young to recognize that this was a
Speaker 1: facility where we would go to lunch and Mike Typson
Speaker 1: movie standing in the mess all because the staff members
Speaker 1: was his homeboys. Like this was a lesson as opposed
Speaker 1: to uh discipline, and I didn't recognize that. Then. Now
Speaker 1: you know what and what usually happens fruit and those
Speaker 1: type of facilities, people usually learn how to become better criminals. Yes,
Speaker 1: and that's what I did. I hate to admit it because,
Speaker 1: like I said, you was able to earn a home
Speaker 1: visit every month, and I didn't earn them all, but
Speaker 1: the ones I did earn. The bus was dropping me off.
Speaker 1: I was coming from upstate New York on the Grayhound
Speaker 1: and the bus would drop me off in forty second Street,
Speaker 1: part authority. Forty second Street is what midtown Manhattan. So
Speaker 1: I'm actually getting off the bus coming from the Jufer
Speaker 1: Now facility, running into my homeboys in Midtown digging pockets.
Speaker 1: I'm actually digging the pocket before I get home and
Speaker 1: tell my grandmother I made it home. That's crazy, man.
Speaker 1: So you still you still pretty much? So let me
Speaker 1: ask you this now about the facility you're being in
Speaker 1: being like you said, it was a blessing. But do
Speaker 1: you think if you'd win somewhere a little bit more harsh,
Speaker 1: that you probably wouldn't have been acting when you got
Speaker 1: back home. No, I think I would just still came
Speaker 1: home and act up because I went I went away
Speaker 1: at a time where it wasn't no O G s
Speaker 1: pulling the shorties up. Lenderstand, I'm saying it was the
Speaker 1: shortest raising the shorties, and it was hold your own,
Speaker 1: do what you gotta do. So it wasn't no Gee's
Speaker 1: pulling us up. In my generation. Now, me being O
Speaker 1: G knowing I got a bunch of little dudes in
Speaker 1: my hood that respect me and looked up to me.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to change that site because they didn't do
Speaker 1: that with us. They didn't do that, man, And that's
Speaker 1: important too, bro New York City. In New York City,
Speaker 1: the o gs just coming home from doing a little
Speaker 1: one of the threes to the Falls, and we thought
Speaker 1: that ship was cool. Now we're coming home from doing
Speaker 1: twenty five and thirty and we're telling these shorties, now,
Speaker 1: that's not what's uck. We when we was growing up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let me ask you this fruit. How much time did
Speaker 1: you actually wind up doing on that little stretch. O're
Speaker 1: not talking to juveniles, you're talking to stretch. I didn't
Speaker 1: with the department. Yeah, I'm talking to juvenile. We're gonna
Speaker 1: go get to that. Okay, did juveniles? Man? I did
Speaker 1: that first one party fourteen months I came back. I did.
Speaker 1: I did total with three of them. I ain't learned.
Speaker 1: Tween the age of thirteen. I spent my sixteenth birthday
Speaker 1: at one of those places. So between the age of
Speaker 1: thirteen and sixteen, I didn't total of three of those
Speaker 1: damn juvenal pays. One of them was for fourteen months
Speaker 1: and the other two was for six months apiece, for
Speaker 1: six months a piece, so and that was before my
Speaker 1: sixteenth pirth day. So I would I would be remissed
Speaker 1: to say that you probably didn't get to go back
Speaker 1: to that nice facility that she went to the first time.
Speaker 1: Absolutely not, And I wish I did, and I wish
Speaker 1: I did, because no, I'm lying to you, I didn't
Speaker 1: because the other facilities. By the time I started going
Speaker 1: to the second and third facility, that ship was a
Speaker 1: kid walked for me, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: it was that's why I was coming home in six months.
Speaker 1: The sittence was longer, but I was doing them since
Speaker 1: and six months because I was thirsty to get back
Speaker 1: to the speech and do same ship I was doing.
Speaker 1: So I knew how to get in and out, but
Speaker 1: I knew how to play the game. Now let's get
Speaker 1: back to that. Man. Hold on, because this this is
Speaker 1: an important part right here. So when you get out
Speaker 1: of jail, like when you get doing your juven all time,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can call the jail still
Speaker 1: l You don't have your freedom, but you come home, man,
Speaker 1: you're back in the f G right. You know you're
Speaker 1: hitting your pockets and everything when the cracks start popping up. Okay, Now,
Speaker 1: I came home from what juvenile big in nineteen ninety,
Speaker 1: and I was messing with my men, big nut rest
Speaker 1: in peace, nothings nothing. Let me let you every figure
Speaker 1: out of Lofeed guards in Brooklyn and New York City.
Speaker 1: I was messing with my man nothing. We go back
Speaker 1: to juvenile history, thinking practice and all that. But in
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety I came home from a juvenile thing and
Speaker 1: I was messing with him, and I saw him change
Speaker 1: on me. He was like yo, I'm not digging the
Speaker 1: more fucking practice no more. And he became a hustler
Speaker 1: and the drug dealer, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: around the year nineteen crack was heavy to the point
Speaker 1: where everybody wanted to be drug dealers. And with that
Speaker 1: drug sheet in New York City came gun violence and beef.
Speaker 1: And that's where my projects went wrong. We only got
Speaker 1: seven builders, bro, who were gonna turn against each other.
Speaker 1: So all those childhood friends and that's who breveried each other,
Speaker 1: child with friends. At the end of the day, it's
Speaker 1: all because of the crack game. Because before we started
Speaker 1: indulging in crack and we were just doing the digging
Speaker 1: poppets and the petty Brodery's, everybody loved each other. We
Speaker 1: competed because you know, friendly competition, but it was love crack.
Speaker 1: That ship did a number throughout the country, I'm quite sure. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: on the West Coast, Midwest, everywhere within the the story was.
Speaker 1: The story was the same everywhere you had lifelong friends
Speaker 1: to go together. I'm talking about people from the same
Speaker 1: lot start gelling each other, bro. Yeah, Now I said
Speaker 1: it on one of his record he was referring to
Speaker 1: rap when he said best friends become strangers. But that's
Speaker 1: what happened in the crack game too. Best friends became
Speaker 1: strange point when they would take each other live. Wow, man,
Speaker 1: and you was running with some pretty pivotal people. I've noticed.
Speaker 1: It's it's a few people that's really important to your story.
Speaker 1: There's a lot more, but it's too In particular, World
Speaker 1: and Wise, worldand Wise, my childhood friends, Wise rest in peace.
Speaker 1: Wise is the only person I've ever known as a
Speaker 1: big brother, even though he wasn't my biological brother. That
Speaker 1: was World's big brother. Now growing up in Lafia, Guards,
Speaker 1: we grew up in the same building. Like we're saying, box,
Speaker 1: Me and World used to play with g I, Joe's
Speaker 1: and Smurfs Like that's how That's what we did. And Wise,
Speaker 1: my Rime which was his real name, was his big brother.
Speaker 1: So he can't have a finger on his little brother
Speaker 1: without acknowledging me and I don't have a big brother.
Speaker 1: So he raised both of us. The World was younger
Speaker 1: than me, you know what I mean. World was younger
Speaker 1: than plus. I was a little I was a little
Speaker 1: off the rocket, you know, I was a little badass kids.
Speaker 1: So what I did and Wise foul amusing or somewhat cool.
Speaker 1: He didn't like for world to do don't do what
Speaker 1: I did. Although I was his friend, why I would
Speaker 1: let me get away with ship. And not to interrupt you,
Speaker 1: but I want to put this in context for the
Speaker 1: people out there. But you know, first of all, you're
Speaker 1: my you're good friends with my partner. Doggy Diamond shot
Speaker 1: out the Doggy Diamond another child friend. He go back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was telling me when y'all was kids, man, and
Speaker 1: she was the size of a grown man. Okay, now
Speaker 1: let me tell you. I put that first juvenile fig
Speaker 1: October thirty, first Halloween seven. I was five to a
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five. I hate my puberty, spoke in
Speaker 1: those fifteen months. I came home fifteen months later, fourteen
Speaker 1: years old, about six ft a hundred and ninety five
Speaker 1: pounds at fourteen, so I had my brokes first day
Speaker 1: and it was like that from them, I was I
Speaker 1: was over. I was two h pounds since the age
Speaker 1: of fourteen, age of fourteen, so in the weight pound.
Speaker 1: So he was getting your swoll long yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: And I don't want to take you back. I want
Speaker 1: to go back to Wise in the world because you
Speaker 1: told me man that um not you told me personally,
Speaker 1: but I heard that Wise held down the lgs by
Speaker 1: himself for a long time. Okay, you know everybody had
Speaker 1: their little run selling crack when everybody started to try
Speaker 1: to do it. Everybody had their run. But it was
Speaker 1: one year in particular nine where Wise held that down
Speaker 1: by myself. And at that time it was some it
Speaker 1: was some heavy hit thats coming through my hood. You know,
Speaker 1: you got some American's moves wanted cast like the light
Speaker 1: out of Brooklyn, New York. He had the major bet
Speaker 1: for Killebn Mkillerbin and for like both rest in Peace
Speaker 1: U for like is coming through my hood. You had
Speaker 1: a t rock Man he rest in Peace team out
Speaker 1: t Rocks Hamo brother, you know his room with that.
Speaker 1: Hamo was the one that tried to put fi sit down.
Speaker 1: So these dudes was was gansters and they would come
Speaker 1: through my privacy at eighty nine And why is he
Speaker 1: standing through it and the tintoes down holding that down
Speaker 1: by herself. It wasn't getting no money in there. It
Speaker 1: was coming through the presence was felt they wanted to
Speaker 1: But while I was holding that sit down by herself,
Speaker 1: and they respected that. And we're talking. You said right nine,
Speaker 1: And just to give you youngsters out there a little context,
Speaker 1: the eighties was something else. The eighties was something else,
Speaker 1: totally different. It was hard to hold something down back
Speaker 1: then because you're using hold on to it for a while.
Speaker 1: In the d game, it was always somebody coming absolutely
Speaker 1: and in Brooklyn, though, Brooklyn is a big barrow man it.
Speaker 1: Brooklyn was so big they had to make queens. That's
Speaker 1: real talk. Brooklyn was so broke big they had to
Speaker 1: cut a piece of it and make queens. Brooklyn is
Speaker 1: a big bro And you know what I'm saying, Brooklyn
Speaker 1: grew up on robbing and stealing, backstabbing. So crack didn't
Speaker 1: help me. Crack did not help And so you're mixing
Speaker 1: the dude name Hardy. Back then you said he's the
Speaker 1: one that tried to lay fifty sit down. That's it's rumor.
Speaker 1: It's rumor that one trying to allegedly. Yeah, it's room
Speaker 1: that that's what fifty said. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: this room with that Harmo spooth to be the one
Speaker 1: that tried to put him down, and t Rock was
Speaker 1: almost older brother. So this is the dude coming through
Speaker 1: my privacy. He now with his gun on his hip.
Speaker 1: But Wise was standing in the middle of the projects
Speaker 1: holding that down man by himself. He had dudes around them,
Speaker 1: but they was not shooters. They ain't had no guns
Speaker 1: on their hips or no bests on their back. Wise
Speaker 1: was like that for Dolo. I've watched that. I've watched
Speaker 1: my big brother do that. He did his thing and
Speaker 1: he held it down absolutely. Now you know you're you're
Speaker 1: mixing a few raps. You know, we're mixing fifty sim
Speaker 1: when she's from Queens and Queen's Cat rightly, man, y'all
Speaker 1: got some legendary mcs over there. You know. For as rappers,
Speaker 1: you've got Biggie Smalls, you got the whole Junior Manfia faction. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: you know, shout out to Queen's Bridge, Shout out the
Speaker 1: fifty You do his thing. When it comes to that
Speaker 1: music ship, Uh, you know what I'm saying, left rack Nor.
Speaker 1: You know, all the Queens is big, but when it
Speaker 1: comes to hip hop, we only got seven buildings, bro,
Speaker 1: and so we got Queen's Bridge is huge, I mean huge.
Speaker 1: So it's it's no surprise all the rappers came out
Speaker 1: of it. I got seven buildings. Bro, we gave you
Speaker 1: d J. Mr C. We gave you Big Daddy came.
Speaker 1: Mr C gave you Biggie. Mrs you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Junior Mafia and Kim all that. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: easy mob, we produced all that Tupac ship like that
Speaker 1: came out of LG. Broye nothing up, another room up.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, Mrs C. Body be
Speaker 1: mad me, but it's a rumor one of my dude
Speaker 1: in my projects. Then the Symphony bat but let it
Speaker 1: be told, Molly Maul get the credit that b came
Speaker 1: out of l G. I heard. Oh wow, so one
Speaker 1: of the most pivotable, one of the most pivotal hip
Speaker 1: hop records of all time from the Symphony somebody. The
Speaker 1: rumor is a brother out of LG. Did that did
Speaker 1: the third that you know they ran with that ship
Speaker 1: that Molly Maul was But let's get that brother's life.
Speaker 1: What's his name? His name is shim Shaw. Shim Shaw.
Speaker 1: Letend wi shim Shaw. And that's the rumor. That's what
Speaker 1: I got. I'm gonna repeated. I'm saying, you don't know
Speaker 1: that claiming credit for no stuff. You ain't making issue,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I heard shim Shaw made
Speaker 1: that more fun. Beat were breaking news on that. So
Speaker 1: let's go back to it. Man, you had um on
Speaker 1: all the reference. You new look Kim, right, you new Kim? Yeah,
Speaker 1: me and now Kim went the school together, junior high school,
Speaker 1: a little bit of high school. Doggy diamonds too, is
Speaker 1: that right, man? Because they you know, actually a lot
Speaker 1: of people don't know what dogg he was producing stuff
Speaker 1: a big ye early on. Yeah, dog he grew up
Speaker 1: with them boys. Man, actually, uh big, he grew up
Speaker 1: with Doggy. But everything all that junior Marfi shid come
Speaker 1: up under Doggy. That's something man, dog don't Yeah, dog
Speaker 1: don't he deserved. That's why I want to put all
Speaker 1: up with all this out there and let it be known.
Speaker 1: Now we're talked about. Man. The eighties right right here, right,
Speaker 1: you had a bit of a reputation. Let's talk about that. Man.
Speaker 1: What was you into though? Okay, my reputation came just
Speaker 1: scrapping man, just being no nonsense and scrapping that kid
Speaker 1: being a little badass, a little kid willing to fight,
Speaker 1: never scared the run from a fight. I took a
Speaker 1: couple of lumps and bruisers. You can't win them all.
Speaker 1: But when I went to that first juvenile facility, when
Speaker 1: I went to Spabor for the first time, I ran
Speaker 1: into my o G to this day be my o
Speaker 1: G out of East New Yorker's name is Brandon calling Bridge.
Speaker 1: Now we was children, and he saw me. Unbeknownst to me,
Speaker 1: he had knew me from the street. He reminds me
Speaker 1: of this. I didn't know that. I just thought he
Speaker 1: took a liking to me. He saw me, I was
Speaker 1: a scared little kid, and he threw me under this wing.
Speaker 1: That's what I thought. But unbeknownst to me, he knew
Speaker 1: me from the street. That's why he was checking for me.
Speaker 1: But I didn't know that. But when he checked from
Speaker 1: me and made sure I was all right, I watched
Speaker 1: him and this nigga was checking ship like he wasn't
Speaker 1: playing no games in the juvenile joint, Like he was
Speaker 1: running down on his beat and ship out of big
Speaker 1: niggas all that. Like I said, Okay, this is the blueprint,
Speaker 1: this is what we do. And I kid you not.
Speaker 1: I followed his blueprint and I always kept more fuckers
Speaker 1: and check around me. I ain't played no games because
Speaker 1: he didn't like this is what he would have done.
Speaker 1: I followed his blueprint, and that ship went from Juvenam
Speaker 1: to the Department of Corrections because not only did I
Speaker 1: following his footsteps and the way I conducted myself, I
Speaker 1: followed his footsteps to prison. He miss that he went
Speaker 1: to prison, and he was the same motherfucker like checking ship,
Speaker 1: holding it down, and I was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: he put the blueprint down, and I must continue to
Speaker 1: conduct myself with these motherfuckers. And that's what it was.
Speaker 1: When the reputation just grew. Then I had some incidents
Speaker 1: from racket sound, I handle myself accordingly with the police.
Speaker 1: That shep grew enhanced the reputation, and I always staid
Speaker 1: attend those down. And I never had a reputation for
Speaker 1: being a foul, slimy snake type motherfucker, you know, a
Speaker 1: disrespectful dude. And I guess people respect me and I
Speaker 1: respect others. Yeah, REPUTATIONLF Let's go back to something real quick, right,
Speaker 1: what did you catch your first major being behind the stretch.
Speaker 1: The stretch was May I got into an actually didn't
Speaker 1: shooting where I actually didn't shot a female in my
Speaker 1: house and projects, and I was convicted of a man
Speaker 1: slaughter where I was sent this to sixteen to thirty
Speaker 1: two years and I ended up doing twenty three years
Speaker 1: out of that bit on some accident ship. Yeah it
Speaker 1: was an actually didn't shoot him. But it was my
Speaker 1: second felony. M So if it would have been my first,
Speaker 1: I quote I quote a midtown case as a sixteen
Speaker 1: year old. And then they played, oh take a year, Okay,
Speaker 1: I could be home in eight months. I jumped on it,
Speaker 1: but they gave me my first felony. So now when
Speaker 1: I catched the actually didn't shoot it, They're like, yo,
Speaker 1: you're a predicate felon. So now instead of me getting
Speaker 1: eight years, they gave me twelve. And then on top
Speaker 1: of that, I had the gun yards, they gave me
Speaker 1: a another three and a half. It made a six
Speaker 1: team in New York. Don't play no games and guns though.
Speaker 1: Not only that, but New York had a good time.
Speaker 1: They can be a state country like we date to day.
Speaker 1: We don't get no good time. When I when I
Speaker 1: went to prison, it was you got twelve years. You're
Speaker 1: doing twelve years before the broad boarding and consider letting
Speaker 1: you out. M so crazy. Now let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: your first bid, where was you at? Where was you at? Again? Man?
Speaker 1: My first bid that stretch. I touched every maximum security
Speaker 1: state new and new, every maximum security silly in New
Speaker 1: York State prison, every one you see. I don't think
Speaker 1: these kids understand man, because we're not glorifying this stuff.
Speaker 1: That's why I really want to have you on here. Man.
Speaker 1: I don't think these kids out here really understanding men,
Speaker 1: because I watched every day on mine on the internet
Speaker 1: threatened people right, all kind of goofy ship man, and
Speaker 1: just do all kinds of stupid stuff. Man. They have
Speaker 1: no idea what they got in store for the stuff.
Speaker 1: If they continue on, they act antics. Let me tell
Speaker 1: you this, right, like I said when I was blowing up,
Speaker 1: we didn't have O g s coming home schooling us.
Speaker 1: We had O g's coming home with their pants off.
Speaker 1: They asked, and they do ragging. They by back pocket,
Speaker 1: talking about they held it down on a one of
Speaker 1: three or two six. Now you got ogs like me
Speaker 1: coming home saying yo, bro. They roofed me when I
Speaker 1: was sixteen. I gave him thirty years and they're mad
Speaker 1: that I'm able to come home and talk to you.
Speaker 1: So now what they're gonna do is they're gonna give
Speaker 1: you fifty years. So you can't come home and talk
Speaker 1: to the youth because they planned not they plan didn't work.
Speaker 1: They tried to break us, they tried to get rid
Speaker 1: of us, they tried to bury us, and it didn't work.
Speaker 1: So now they're gonna bury y'all young dudes. Man, it's
Speaker 1: not now. It's not twenty five life for a body,
Speaker 1: it's natural life. Yeah, they're giving you natural Yeah. And
Speaker 1: you know that the thing that really man pissed me
Speaker 1: off man about some of the older brothers, Man is dead.
Speaker 1: We really wining this time that they do man as badge,
Speaker 1: as of honor. They weren't the time as I don't
Speaker 1: like that's something that you want to get to. And
Speaker 1: I've heard young people say that man like man, I
Speaker 1: just want to go to jail and be an O G.
Speaker 1: Now you know what's so O G? O G as
Speaker 1: a dude who conducted himself like a man to take
Speaker 1: here of his family, to take here of his loved ones,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And if he's an O
Speaker 1: G in the hood, you gotta get back to the hood.
Speaker 1: You ain't know O G in your hood. You ain't
Speaker 1: give it back to your hood. Aw you O G
Speaker 1: in your hood? You don't care about your hood? Yeah,
Speaker 1: care about your hood. You uplift your hood, you don't
Speaker 1: destroy it. That's what we gotta do. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's what we got to do now, because
Speaker 1: that's that's that's my message. Yeah, I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: what I've been through. You know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 1: you can sit in front of the TV and watch
Speaker 1: Denzel and be entertained. Old thing. So if you want
Speaker 1: to hear this ship I've been through and be entertained,
Speaker 1: it's cool. But at the end of the day, I
Speaker 1: don't want you walking away from me thinking that ship
Speaker 1: is cool. I want you to learn from what I've
Speaker 1: been through, so you ain't gotta go through it like
Speaker 1: my man Porter, we can Mikey say, you gotta learn
Speaker 1: what not to do, what not to do exactly. Because
Speaker 1: the thing is, like I tell everybody, I tell I
Speaker 1: work with a lot of kids, man, don't you know
Speaker 1: I don't have youth football programs in the community, man,
Speaker 1: not like we do a lot of stuff for the
Speaker 1: community because I believe the kids they got there's a
Speaker 1: future right there. If we don't look at them, them
Speaker 1: gonna be the same little cats f all in through
Speaker 1: your window. You look out for him and give him
Speaker 1: some game. Right now, what is it that you have playing? Man?
Speaker 1: Further to get your message out there many of these kids. Okay,
Speaker 1: with the kids being at I recently jumped on YouTube
Speaker 1: with the LG story Me and my man Mike st
Speaker 1: Last shout out Mikey, my my partner shouting to st
Speaker 1: Last giving us that platform on YouTube. Ever since we
Speaker 1: did this, we've been getting so much positive feedback and
Speaker 1: love and community. Where see, I did the twenty two
Speaker 1: years and I didn't return back to my community. You
Speaker 1: understand I'm saying I had to give myself a chance,
Speaker 1: which was not returning back to my community and get
Speaker 1: my life together. Don't get me wrong. I hit the
Speaker 1: ground running and I made sure I gave back to society.
Speaker 1: I just didn't get report back to my community. So
Speaker 1: you got a lot. I popped up here and there
Speaker 1: they seeing my face, but a lot of the youth
Speaker 1: they heard of me, and they don't know me and
Speaker 1: my man Mikey he'd been off the set for twenty
Speaker 1: two years, maybe since Nut died. Rest in peace. So
Speaker 1: they don't know us, and this YouTube ship has introduced
Speaker 1: them to us. So we got their attention. And while
Speaker 1: I got their attention, I must give them a message.
Speaker 1: I got their attention. Bro, it would be a disservice
Speaker 1: of me to not do that. So while I got
Speaker 1: the attention, I want to give them a message so
Speaker 1: they don't I have to go through with me and Mike.
Speaker 1: You went through. That's to the youth. And that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying because you know, man, I'm very fortunate man
Speaker 1: that I have never been in the penitentiary. You know,
Speaker 1: I've been locked up a couple of times for a
Speaker 1: little stuff, not no longer and during time. But every
Speaker 1: partner I got man actually dead time. They didn't come
Speaker 1: home the same. It was like something missing with him.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying, missing, Like what just like man,
Speaker 1: you know, like I got one partner that came down.
Speaker 1: He came on hell of pair of noise. He came
Speaker 1: over the house. Every time he heard the sound, he
Speaker 1: was okay over there. You know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: they came home different. You feel what I'm saying. She
Speaker 1: she prison affect people in different ways, and people do
Speaker 1: time different ways. You got a guy could go in
Speaker 1: prison and he has no support system, so now he's
Speaker 1: forced to live off the land of prison and sometimes
Speaker 1: actually don't work for people, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And next thing you know, motherfucker end up taking medication,
Speaker 1: smoking cigarettes off the floor. Uh, doing a lot of solitary.
Speaker 1: Can find me that ship getting the best of them.
Speaker 1: And then what they do, your time's up, They drop
Speaker 1: you back in the streets. Now you come home, something
Speaker 1: is missing, Yeah, exactly. But you know what I say,
Speaker 1: no more, No, I had one. I got a couple
Speaker 1: of home boys. They say time actually did them good
Speaker 1: because they did their program. You got program there you go.
Speaker 1: Then you got dudes who come to prison and say,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna make the best of this.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take this program. I'm gonna take that program.
Speaker 1: I'm a better myself. So when I because you gotta
Speaker 1: go to in New York, you got I don't know
Speaker 1: about other prisons, but I know in New York, you
Speaker 1: gotta go to the throw boy. You gotta make these
Speaker 1: motherfucker's want to let you go. It didn't know, just
Speaker 1: do your time and go home. You gotta sit here
Speaker 1: after doing the time. Convinced these mothers and let you go.
Speaker 1: So you got brothers who say that's seriously, and they
Speaker 1: better themselves. They get no pro where they can't certificates,
Speaker 1: they get a licensing, they getting degrees, they get the
Speaker 1: education and it does better. And then when they come
Speaker 1: home they offer running in their better people. That's well, man,
Speaker 1: that's the that's the whole thing about it. Different stories, brother,
Speaker 1: they can go different ways with different people. Man, worlds
Speaker 1: all they could go for many different ways. Like I
Speaker 1: came in as a kid. We want to do I
Speaker 1: saw him, but ninety snipy too. I saw him nine
Speaker 1: years later, two thousand. He won't past me, and I
Speaker 1: was like if I noticed, dude, and he was on medication,
Speaker 1: he was sold down looking for cigarette butts on the floor.
Speaker 1: And nine years, nine years later. So it affects people
Speaker 1: in different ways. And then when they let you out,
Speaker 1: they don't do nothing for you. They don't put you
Speaker 1: in a hospital and make sure you're good. They let
Speaker 1: your ass out just like that, just send you back
Speaker 1: to the streets. And that's the thing. A lot of
Speaker 1: people winning. It was already staying with grandma, but they
Speaker 1: do time. Now Grandma's gone. Yeah, so you're coming on.
Speaker 1: They put you in these shelters and that ship don't work.
Speaker 1: Shelters is like prison. Was living like they in prison.
Speaker 1: In the shelter. You're back on in the streets and
Speaker 1: now times I intend I shouldn't be back to prison. Man, Fruit,
Speaker 1: this is what I want to do. Man. Like we said,
Speaker 1: I know you're short on time. Man, I appreciate you
Speaker 1: coming home, coming on at this last minute like this. Man,
Speaker 1: I appreciate having me. Brother, I appreciate you having me.
Speaker 1: I'm I am truly out of and I'm blessed. Thank
Speaker 1: you for show Bro. So what I want to do?
Speaker 1: We canna come back with a part two to this.
Speaker 1: But what's your YouTube channel? Man? What's the YouTube channel
Speaker 1: that nextea? Just get YouTube? Do get to say? You
Speaker 1: ever get it? Right? Uh? It's at duh Big Fruit. No,
Speaker 1: the real fruit, the real truth. That's d A R
Speaker 1: E A L B I G true the real Big
Speaker 1: Fruit for show man, y'all make and I'm gonna make
Speaker 1: sure I dropped some links in there too. Man. I
Speaker 1: definitely want you all to go check out man in
Speaker 1: series they got going on. Man on f GS. Man,
Speaker 1: it's crazy, it's real informative, man, as you can learn
Speaker 1: a lot when you go on there. Also, you can
Speaker 1: check me out on Instagram. My instagram is uh, Fruitball Underscore,
Speaker 1: Sunny Underscore barely. Uh. The LG story is all over
Speaker 1: the instagram. Uh. And if you want to go straight
Speaker 1: to the Instagram, you can check out St Li's LG
Speaker 1: story plateless. It's all in you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We try to do something big in that and with
Speaker 1: the LGI story, what I'm trying to do is I'm
Speaker 1: trying to see who want to bite. They like what
Speaker 1: they see. They see the numbers, they see the views.
Speaker 1: It's moving, you know. I'm trying to get the lights,
Speaker 1: camera action back in the hood. So the now boys,
Speaker 1: I think it work. Man. The little kids out there
Speaker 1: growing up in my projects, they act, they want to
Speaker 1: do whatever. That's what I want to do, man, that's
Speaker 1: what And and for everybody out there, IM gonna have
Speaker 1: them links down below, So make sure y'all go down below,
Speaker 1: check out the links and go hit my man up. Man.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, brother, but we're gonna shoot you and
Speaker 1: we're gonna do part two, Part three. Whatever you need
Speaker 1: for me, brother, oh for sure. So y'all be on
Speaker 1: the lookout for that. And we out of yet, pa. Well.
Speaker 1: That concludes another episode of Against the Chronicles podcast. Be
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