1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: When I wrote, y'all all across the USC Compton Lots 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: Bank to l A from on the California the Valley, 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: we represent that Kelly County. So if you're keeping it 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: reil on your side of your town, you tune into 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: Gangster Chronicles chronic Goals. He gonna tell you how we go. 6 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: If I line my nose a girl like Pinocchio, We're 7 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: gonna tell you to choose and nothing but the thanks 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: the chronic goals. This is not your average show. You're 9 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: now tuned into the rail m c A, Big James 10 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: and Bix fails from the streets. Hello, what's happing everybody? 11 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: It's your man, Big Steel with another episode of the 12 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: Gangster Chronicles podcast Today. You don't have the homies with me, 13 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: but I do have a very very special guest at 14 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: digg in the House for y'all to day, one of 15 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: the most mythic brothers from New York. You know what, 16 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if I can give him the proper 17 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: introduction that he needs. Man, do me a favor. Tell 18 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: the people where you're from. First of all, I'm from Brooklyn, 19 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: New York that started the exact Lafayette Gardens projects, better 20 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: known as LG. Yeah, LG, my name is fruit Pom, 21 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: also known as dig fruit Fruit. That's what. And there 22 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: are years right there. Seeing I'm gonna explaining to everybody something. 23 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 1: The dynamics on the West Coast and the East Coast 24 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: is like night and day, not a day. L gez 25 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: twenty floors right, each building twenty floors? No, we got 26 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: seven buildings in the four block raids. Three out of 27 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: the seven buildings got twenty floors. Okay, that's what I 28 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: was saying. The other four buildings may have thirteen to fifteen. 29 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: That's still big though yall was an actual skyscrapers then 30 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: pretty much. Yeah, but seven buildings is very very small 31 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: compared to other housing projects throughout New York City. That's 32 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: what Dog he was telling me. Dog he was saying that, 33 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: y'all kind of like the smallest projects. But you gotta understand, 34 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: on the West Coast, we don't have no stuff like that. 35 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: Everything is short. Everything is short and kind of spread 36 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: out like you may see some town houses or something 37 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: like that. You look like town houses almost right, and 38 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: they just wind up right next to each other and 39 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: on top of each other. And I always used to ask, Dog, 40 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: you say man, New York cats seemed like they move 41 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: a little different. I understand why now y'all living on 42 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: top of each other back in that motherfucker. So you 43 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: gotta it's pretty much when you do your history, when 44 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: you go back into African history and things like that 45 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: and slavery, you know how they stacked us up on 46 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: the boats on top of each other. That's all it was. 47 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: They brung their ship to the housing projects and stacked 48 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: the soul up on top of each other like slave ships. 49 00:02:55,200 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, And that's what I saw. Now, you thought 50 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: the ports man like prior to the crack era, he was, 51 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: he was running the streets way before the crack era. 52 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say that the crack 53 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: era came about. It started in the Bronx for sure. 54 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 1: And then you're talking early early eighties, man, like eight three, 55 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: forty five. Maybe I came out of the house in 56 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty maybe three. I'm eighty three to Big Sact. 57 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: I never forget. It was eighty three July, the night 58 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: Diana Ross hit Central Park. That's my first day at 59 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: the house. I watched one of my older cousins get 60 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: dressed he's about to hit the block. Go take him 61 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: some money, because that's what he was back then in 62 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: the early eighties. Uh dudes in Brooklyn, Brownsville and bed 63 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: styt he was on some snatching diamonds and take them 64 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: to the scale and you did their money that way. Um. 65 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: I had an older cousin that was his that was 66 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,839 Speaker 1: his swag, and I watched him get dressed that day 67 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty three. He on his way to sent 68 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: you Park to go take money, and I actually could 69 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: I go with it, and he told me, you'll take 70 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: me with him as long as I wasn't scared to 71 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: take nobody. So I came out the house that day, 72 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: that historical day, Diana role set that stage and sent 73 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: you Park and he started raining. I came out the 74 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: house that day, brother, So that's three snatching pockets off, 75 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: And that's what I wanted to get into because that 76 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: was a big thing, and that was a big thing 77 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: for y'all back then. Pretty much tearing somebody's pockets off, 78 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: going to somebody's pockets. Okay, Now, when I came out 79 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: the house with that, that's what it was. Digging your 80 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: hand in somebody's pockets, snatching money and run. But prior 81 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: to me coming out of the house, the older generations 82 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: before me, what they used to do was called joscelyn. 83 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: It's just a different name of pickpocket. Okay, So the 84 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: older generation, that's what they used to do, the Joscelyn, 85 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: which is called pickpocket. By the time I came out 86 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: the house a few years later, dudes got tired of 87 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: the hustle and bustle that comes with pickpocket. They just 88 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: started snatching the whole pockets off. Man. And it's almost 89 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: like a universal appeal right there. So you know you'll 90 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: got all this going on, man, and you got your 91 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: first being in eighty seven, Yes, sir, Halloween eighty seven, 92 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: I was thirteen years old. Now you're thirteen years old, man, 93 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: and you're going to pretty much with juvenile jail, right 94 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: right right. Can you speak on what it was that 95 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: you did to put you in that position? Okay? In 96 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: New York City when I when I came out of 97 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: the house in the early eighties, I don't know what 98 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: it was about, but every Halloween, I can't compare it 99 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: to the l A Rice. Don't get it twisted, but 100 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: just imagine the l A rants on a minor scale. 101 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: This is every Halloween in Brooklyn, New York. Wow, every 102 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: Halloween in Brooklyn, New York, two hundred to three hundred 103 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: dudes from every house and projects just get together and 104 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: run rampant in New York City, throwing cocktail bombs, busting 105 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: jury store windows, running up and store snatching clothes, throwing 106 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: eggs like that's what they did on Halloween in the 107 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: eighties in Brooklyn. Why, I have no idea, and I 108 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: was just running them up with everybody else. So on 109 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: Halloween eighties seven, that's what was going on. And I 110 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: dug a pocket and the police was a block away 111 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: on a steakout. Oh man. So as we're running wow, 112 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: doing what we're doing, the police got us in eyesight, 113 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: and I guess when I made my move, they jumped 114 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: out and began to chase us. And I had nowhere 115 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: to go. I had nowhere to go, So you just 116 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: gave it up. Now, how was you feeling? She was 117 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: thirteen years old, He was a little kid man at 118 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: the time. I was trying to get away. But when 119 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: they caught me, you know, that's when that thirteen year 120 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: old child, kicking, crying like a baby, snocked bubbling in 121 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: my nose. Please don't take me to jail. I'm sorry, 122 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: I get the money back. I tried all that. Ain't 123 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: none of that work. They processed me. Let me know, 124 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: my grandmother was not taking me home, and I was 125 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: going to sprofit which was the Juvenile Potential Center in 126 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: New York City then, and going there, I cried on 127 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: that whole drive to the Bronx from Brooklyn, New York, snoped, 128 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: bubbling in my nose, begging them please to give me 129 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: another chance. I'll never do it again. Ain't none of 130 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: that work, None of that work? How long did you 131 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: wind up doing? Uh? I ended up getting an eighteen 132 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: months sentence in family court October eighty seven. I ended 133 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: up coming home. Maybe I had an eighteen months sentence, 134 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: I might have did fourteen months out of it. So 135 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: I think about a year and some change out of that. 136 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: At the juvenile facility called Berthshire Farms up state in 137 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: New York. And it's a real famous place because it 138 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: was a private facility. It wasn't a state owned facility. 139 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: It was privately owned, and the majority of the children 140 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: there were sent there by their parents and families. You 141 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: know what they got. And a thing called pens petition. 142 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: When your family can't control you, you want to send 143 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: them away. The courts sent the majority of those kids there. 144 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: Me being so young, they gave me a chance to 145 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: come to that facility as opposed to go into one 146 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: of those rougher juvenile facilities that I could have landed it. Okay, 147 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: So pretty much they're like, what was the experience like 148 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: in there, because you said that was kind of like 149 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: the lightweight spot right. Uh, where I did my jewel 150 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: now bid was very much like, very very very much 151 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 1: like it was a blessing as a It was more 152 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: of a blessing than a punishment. That this was a 153 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: non secure facility where guys, you had the opportunity to earn, 154 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: the opportunity to go home every month. Uh. You participated 155 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: in local high school sports. So when I shook up 156 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,599 Speaker 1: the basketball court, I was in the dealer, I was 157 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: in the local newspapers. I was I was being scouted 158 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: by high schools and even junior colleges that were locally. 159 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: That's not the treatment of a of a child in 160 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: the JUPI now facility, Oh no, not at all. You're 161 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: actually giving the kid a chance to actually still have 162 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: a future, right, that's what they was giving me. But 163 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: I was too young to recognize that this was a 164 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: facility where we would go to lunch and Mike Typson 165 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: movie standing in the mess all because the staff members 166 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: was his homeboys. Like this was a lesson as opposed 167 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: to uh discipline, and I didn't recognize that. Then. Now 168 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: you know what and what usually happens fruit and those 169 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: type of facilities, people usually learn how to become better criminals. Yes, 170 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: and that's what I did. I hate to admit it because, 171 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 1: like I said, you was able to earn a home 172 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: visit every month, and I didn't earn them all, but 173 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: the ones I did earn. The bus was dropping me off. 174 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 1: I was coming from upstate New York on the Grayhound 175 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 1: and the bus would drop me off in forty second Street, 176 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: part authority. Forty second Street is what midtown Manhattan. So 177 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm actually getting off the bus coming from the Jufer 178 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: Now facility, running into my homeboys in Midtown digging pockets. 179 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: I'm actually digging the pocket before I get home and 180 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: tell my grandmother I made it home. That's crazy, man. 181 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: So you still you still pretty much? So let me 182 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: ask you this now about the facility you're being in 183 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: being like you said, it was a blessing. But do 184 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: you think if you'd win somewhere a little bit more harsh, 185 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: that you probably wouldn't have been acting when you got 186 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: back home. No, I think I would just still came 187 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: home and act up because I went I went away 188 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: at a time where it wasn't no O G s 189 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: pulling the shorties up. Lenderstand, I'm saying it was the 190 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: shortest raising the shorties, and it was hold your own, 191 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 1: do what you gotta do. So it wasn't no Gee's 192 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: pulling us up. In my generation. Now, me being O 193 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: G knowing I got a bunch of little dudes in 194 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: my hood that respect me and looked up to me. 195 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: I'm trying to change that site because they didn't do 196 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: that with us. They didn't do that, man, And that's 197 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: important too, bro New York City. In New York City, 198 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: the o gs just coming home from doing a little 199 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: one of the threes to the Falls, and we thought 200 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: that ship was cool. Now we're coming home from doing 201 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: twenty five and thirty and we're telling these shorties, now, 202 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 1: that's not what's uck. We when we was growing up. Yeah, 203 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: let me ask you this fruit. How much time did 204 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 1: you actually wind up doing on that little stretch. O're 205 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: not talking to juveniles, you're talking to stretch. I didn't 206 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: with the department. Yeah, I'm talking to juvenile. We're gonna 207 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: go get to that. Okay, did juveniles? Man? I did 208 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: that first one party fourteen months I came back. I did. 209 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: I did total with three of them. I ain't learned. 210 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: Tween the age of thirteen. I spent my sixteenth birthday 211 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: at one of those places. So between the age of 212 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: thirteen and sixteen, I didn't total of three of those 213 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: damn juvenal pays. One of them was for fourteen months 214 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: and the other two was for six months apiece, for 215 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: six months a piece, so and that was before my 216 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: sixteenth pirth day. So I would I would be remissed 217 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: to say that you probably didn't get to go back 218 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: to that nice facility that she went to the first time. 219 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: Absolutely not, And I wish I did, and I wish 220 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: I did, because no, I'm lying to you, I didn't 221 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: because the other facilities. By the time I started going 222 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: to the second and third facility, that ship was a 223 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: kid walked for me, you know what I mean. So 224 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: it was that's why I was coming home in six months. 225 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: The sittence was longer, but I was doing them since 226 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: and six months because I was thirsty to get back 227 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: to the speech and do same ship I was doing. 228 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: So I knew how to get in and out, but 229 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 1: I knew how to play the game. Now let's get 230 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: back to that. Man. Hold on, because this this is 231 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: an important part right here. So when you get out 232 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: of jail, like when you get doing your juven all time, 233 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if I can call the jail still 234 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: l You don't have your freedom, but you come home, man, 235 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: you're back in the f G right. You know you're 236 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: hitting your pockets and everything when the cracks start popping up. Okay, Now, 237 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: I came home from what juvenile big in nineteen ninety, 238 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: and I was messing with my men, big nut rest 239 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: in peace, nothings nothing. Let me let you every figure 240 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: out of Lofeed guards in Brooklyn and New York City. 241 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: I was messing with my man nothing. We go back 242 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: to juvenile history, thinking practice and all that. But in 243 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety I came home from a juvenile thing and 244 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: I was messing with him, and I saw him change 245 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: on me. He was like yo, I'm not digging the 246 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: more fucking practice no more. And he became a hustler 247 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 1: and the drug dealer, you know what I'm saying. So 248 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: around the year nineteen crack was heavy to the point 249 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: where everybody wanted to be drug dealers. And with that 250 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: drug sheet in New York City came gun violence and beef. 251 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: And that's where my projects went wrong. We only got 252 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: seven builders, bro, who were gonna turn against each other. 253 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: So all those childhood friends and that's who breveried each other, 254 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: child with friends. At the end of the day, it's 255 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: all because of the crack game. Because before we started 256 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: indulging in crack and we were just doing the digging 257 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: poppets and the petty Brodery's, everybody loved each other. We 258 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: competed because you know, friendly competition, but it was love crack. 259 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: That ship did a number throughout the country, I'm quite sure. Yeah, yeah, 260 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: on the West Coast, Midwest, everywhere within the the story was. 261 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: The story was the same everywhere you had lifelong friends 262 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: to go together. I'm talking about people from the same 263 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: lot start gelling each other, bro. Yeah, Now I said 264 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: it on one of his record he was referring to 265 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: rap when he said best friends become strangers. But that's 266 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: what happened in the crack game too. Best friends became 267 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: strange point when they would take each other live. Wow, man, 268 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: and you was running with some pretty pivotal people. I've noticed. 269 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: It's it's a few people that's really important to your story. 270 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: There's a lot more, but it's too In particular, World 271 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: and Wise, worldand Wise, my childhood friends, Wise rest in peace. 272 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: Wise is the only person I've ever known as a 273 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: big brother, even though he wasn't my biological brother. That 274 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: was World's big brother. Now growing up in Lafia, Guards, 275 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: we grew up in the same building. Like we're saying, box, 276 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: Me and World used to play with g I, Joe's 277 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: and Smurfs Like that's how That's what we did. And Wise, 278 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: my Rime which was his real name, was his big brother. 279 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: So he can't have a finger on his little brother 280 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: without acknowledging me and I don't have a big brother. 281 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: So he raised both of us. The World was younger 282 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: than me, you know what I mean. World was younger 283 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: than plus. I was a little I was a little 284 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: off the rocket, you know, I was a little badass kids. 285 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: So what I did and Wise foul amusing or somewhat cool. 286 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: He didn't like for world to do don't do what 287 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: I did. Although I was his friend, why I would 288 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: let me get away with ship. And not to interrupt you, 289 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: but I want to put this in context for the 290 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: people out there. But you know, first of all, you're 291 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: my you're good friends with my partner. Doggy Diamond shot 292 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: out the Doggy Diamond another child friend. He go back. Yeah, 293 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: he was telling me when y'all was kids, man, and 294 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: she was the size of a grown man. Okay, now 295 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: let me tell you. I put that first juvenile fig 296 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: October thirty, first Halloween seven. I was five to a 297 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five. I hate my puberty, spoke in 298 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: those fifteen months. I came home fifteen months later, fourteen 299 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: years old, about six ft a hundred and ninety five 300 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: pounds at fourteen, so I had my brokes first day 301 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: and it was like that from them, I was I 302 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: was over. I was two h pounds since the age 303 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: of fourteen, age of fourteen, so in the weight pound. 304 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: So he was getting your swoll long yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 305 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: And I don't want to take you back. I want 306 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: to go back to Wise in the world because you 307 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: told me man that um not you told me personally, 308 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: but I heard that Wise held down the lgs by 309 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: himself for a long time. Okay, you know everybody had 310 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 1: their little run selling crack when everybody started to try 311 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: to do it. Everybody had their run. But it was 312 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: one year in particular nine where Wise held that down 313 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: by myself. And at that time it was some it 314 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,239 Speaker 1: was some heavy hit thats coming through my hood. You know, 315 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: you got some American's moves wanted cast like the light 316 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: out of Brooklyn, New York. He had the major bet 317 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: for Killebn Mkillerbin and for like both rest in Peace 318 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: U for like is coming through my hood. You had 319 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: a t rock Man he rest in Peace team out 320 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: t Rocks Hamo brother, you know his room with that. 321 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: Hamo was the one that tried to put fi sit down. 322 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: So these dudes was was gansters and they would come 323 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: through my privacy at eighty nine And why is he 324 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: standing through it and the tintoes down holding that down 325 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: by herself. It wasn't getting no money in there. It 326 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: was coming through the presence was felt they wanted to 327 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: But while I was holding that sit down by herself, 328 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 1: and they respected that. And we're talking. You said right nine, 329 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: And just to give you youngsters out there a little context, 330 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: the eighties was something else. The eighties was something else, 331 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 1: totally different. It was hard to hold something down back 332 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: then because you're using hold on to it for a while. 333 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: In the d game, it was always somebody coming absolutely 334 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: and in Brooklyn, though, Brooklyn is a big barrow man it. 335 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: Brooklyn was so big they had to make queens. That's 336 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: real talk. Brooklyn was so broke big they had to 337 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: cut a piece of it and make queens. Brooklyn is 338 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: a big bro And you know what I'm saying, Brooklyn 339 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: grew up on robbing and stealing, backstabbing. So crack didn't 340 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: help me. Crack did not help And so you're mixing 341 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: the dude name Hardy. Back then you said he's the 342 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: one that tried to lay fifty sit down. That's it's rumor. 343 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: It's rumor that one trying to allegedly. Yeah, it's room 344 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: that that's what fifty said. You know what I'm saying, 345 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: this room with that Harmo spooth to be the one 346 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: that tried to put him down, and t Rock was 347 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 1: almost older brother. So this is the dude coming through 348 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: my privacy. He now with his gun on his hip. 349 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: But Wise was standing in the middle of the projects 350 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: holding that down man by himself. He had dudes around them, 351 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: but they was not shooters. They ain't had no guns 352 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: on their hips or no bests on their back. Wise 353 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: was like that for Dolo. I've watched that. I've watched 354 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: my big brother do that. He did his thing and 355 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: he held it down absolutely. Now you know you're you're 356 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: mixing a few raps. You know, we're mixing fifty sim 357 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: when she's from Queens and Queen's Cat rightly, man, y'all 358 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: got some legendary mcs over there. You know. For as rappers, 359 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: you've got Biggie Smalls, you got the whole Junior Manfia faction. Yeah, man, 360 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: you know, shout out to Queen's Bridge, Shout out the 361 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: fifty You do his thing. When it comes to that 362 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: music ship, Uh, you know what I'm saying, left rack Nor. 363 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 1: You know, all the Queens is big, but when it 364 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: comes to hip hop, we only got seven buildings, bro, 365 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 1: and so we got Queen's Bridge is huge, I mean huge. 366 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: So it's it's no surprise all the rappers came out 367 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: of it. I got seven buildings. Bro, we gave you 368 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: d J. Mr C. We gave you Big Daddy came. 369 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: Mr C gave you Biggie. Mrs you know what I'm saying, 370 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: Junior Mafia and Kim all that. You know what I'm saying, 371 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: easy mob, we produced all that Tupac ship like that 372 00:20:55,680 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: came out of LG. Broye nothing up, another room up. 373 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, Mrs C. Body be 374 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: mad me, but it's a rumor one of my dude 375 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: in my projects. Then the Symphony bat but let it 376 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: be told, Molly Maul get the credit that b came 377 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: out of l G. I heard. Oh wow, so one 378 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: of the most pivotable, one of the most pivotal hip 379 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: hop records of all time from the Symphony somebody. The 380 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,719 Speaker 1: rumor is a brother out of LG. Did that did 381 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 1: the third that you know they ran with that ship 382 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: that Molly Maul was But let's get that brother's life. 383 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: What's his name? His name is shim Shaw. Shim Shaw. 384 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: Letend wi shim Shaw. And that's the rumor. That's what 385 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: I got. I'm gonna repeated. I'm saying, you don't know 386 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: that claiming credit for no stuff. You ain't making issue, 387 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I heard shim Shaw made 388 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: that more fun. Beat were breaking news on that. So 389 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: let's go back to it. Man, you had um on 390 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 1: all the reference. You new look Kim, right, you new Kim? Yeah, 391 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: me and now Kim went the school together, junior high school, 392 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: a little bit of high school. Doggy diamonds too, is 393 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: that right, man? Because they you know, actually a lot 394 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: of people don't know what dogg he was producing stuff 395 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 1: a big ye early on. Yeah, dog he grew up 396 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: with them boys. Man, actually, uh big, he grew up 397 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: with Doggy. But everything all that junior Marfi shid come 398 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 1: up under Doggy. That's something man, dog don't Yeah, dog 399 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: don't he deserved. That's why I want to put all 400 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: up with all this out there and let it be known. 401 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,959 Speaker 1: Now we're talked about. Man. The eighties right right here, right, 402 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: you had a bit of a reputation. Let's talk about that. Man. 403 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: What was you into though? Okay, my reputation came just 404 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: scrapping man, just being no nonsense and scrapping that kid 405 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: being a little badass, a little kid willing to fight, 406 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: never scared the run from a fight. I took a 407 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: couple of lumps and bruisers. You can't win them all. 408 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 1: But when I went to that first juvenile facility, when 409 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: I went to Spabor for the first time, I ran 410 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: into my o G to this day be my o 411 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: G out of East New Yorker's name is Brandon calling Bridge. 412 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: Now we was children, and he saw me. Unbeknownst to me, 413 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: he had knew me from the street. He reminds me 414 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: of this. I didn't know that. I just thought he 415 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: took a liking to me. He saw me, I was 416 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: a scared little kid, and he threw me under this wing. 417 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: That's what I thought. But unbeknownst to me, he knew 418 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: me from the street. That's why he was checking for me. 419 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 1: But I didn't know that. But when he checked from 420 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: me and made sure I was all right, I watched 421 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: him and this nigga was checking ship like he wasn't 422 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: playing no games in the juvenile joint, Like he was 423 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: running down on his beat and ship out of big 424 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: niggas all that. Like I said, Okay, this is the blueprint, 425 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: this is what we do. And I kid you not. 426 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: I followed his blueprint and I always kept more fuckers 427 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: and check around me. I ain't played no games because 428 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 1: he didn't like this is what he would have done. 429 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: I followed his blueprint, and that ship went from Juvenam 430 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: to the Department of Corrections because not only did I 431 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: following his footsteps and the way I conducted myself, I 432 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: followed his footsteps to prison. He miss that he went 433 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: to prison, and he was the same motherfucker like checking ship, 434 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: holding it down, and I was like, you know what, 435 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: he put the blueprint down, and I must continue to 436 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: conduct myself with these motherfuckers. And that's what it was. 437 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: When the reputation just grew. Then I had some incidents 438 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: from racket sound, I handle myself accordingly with the police. 439 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 1: That shep grew enhanced the reputation, and I always staid 440 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: attend those down. And I never had a reputation for 441 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: being a foul, slimy snake type motherfucker, you know, a 442 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: disrespectful dude. And I guess people respect me and I 443 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: respect others. Yeah, REPUTATIONLF Let's go back to something real quick, right, 444 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: what did you catch your first major being behind the stretch. 445 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: The stretch was May I got into an actually didn't 446 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: shooting where I actually didn't shot a female in my 447 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: house and projects, and I was convicted of a man 448 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: slaughter where I was sent this to sixteen to thirty 449 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: two years and I ended up doing twenty three years 450 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: out of that bit on some accident ship. Yeah it 451 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: was an actually didn't shoot him. But it was my 452 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: second felony. M So if it would have been my first, 453 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: I quote I quote a midtown case as a sixteen 454 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: year old. And then they played, oh take a year, Okay, 455 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: I could be home in eight months. I jumped on it, 456 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,239 Speaker 1: but they gave me my first felony. So now when 457 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: I catched the actually didn't shoot it, They're like, yo, 458 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: you're a predicate felon. So now instead of me getting 459 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: eight years, they gave me twelve. And then on top 460 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: of that, I had the gun yards, they gave me 461 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: a another three and a half. It made a six 462 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: team in New York. Don't play no games and guns though. 463 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: Not only that, but New York had a good time. 464 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: They can be a state country like we date to day. 465 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: We don't get no good time. When I when I 466 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,479 Speaker 1: went to prison, it was you got twelve years. You're 467 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: doing twelve years before the broad boarding and consider letting 468 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: you out. M so crazy. Now let me ask you this, 469 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: your first bid, where was you at? Where was you at? Again? Man? 470 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: My first bid that stretch. I touched every maximum security 471 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: state new and new, every maximum security silly in New 472 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: York State prison, every one you see. I don't think 473 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: these kids understand man, because we're not glorifying this stuff. 474 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: That's why I really want to have you on here. Man. 475 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,239 Speaker 1: I don't think these kids out here really understanding men, 476 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: because I watched every day on mine on the internet 477 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: threatened people right, all kind of goofy ship man, and 478 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: just do all kinds of stupid stuff. Man. They have 479 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 1: no idea what they got in store for the stuff. 480 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 1: If they continue on, they act antics. Let me tell 481 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: you this, right, like I said when I was blowing up, 482 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: we didn't have O g s coming home schooling us. 483 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: We had O g's coming home with their pants off. 484 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: They asked, and they do ragging. They by back pocket, 485 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: talking about they held it down on a one of 486 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: three or two six. Now you got ogs like me 487 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: coming home saying yo, bro. They roofed me when I 488 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: was sixteen. I gave him thirty years and they're mad 489 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: that I'm able to come home and talk to you. 490 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: So now what they're gonna do is they're gonna give 491 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: you fifty years. So you can't come home and talk 492 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: to the youth because they planned not they plan didn't work. 493 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: They tried to break us, they tried to get rid 494 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 1: of us, they tried to bury us, and it didn't work. 495 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: So now they're gonna bury y'all young dudes. Man, it's 496 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: not now. It's not twenty five life for a body, 497 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: it's natural life. Yeah, they're giving you natural Yeah. And 498 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: you know that the thing that really man pissed me 499 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: off man about some of the older brothers, Man is dead. 500 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: We really wining this time that they do man as badge, 501 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: as of honor. They weren't the time as I don't 502 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: like that's something that you want to get to. And 503 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: I've heard young people say that man like man, I 504 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: just want to go to jail and be an O G. 505 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: Now you know what's so O G? O G as 506 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: a dude who conducted himself like a man to take 507 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 1: here of his family, to take here of his loved ones, 508 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And if he's an O 509 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 1: G in the hood, you gotta get back to the hood. 510 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: You ain't know O G in your hood. You ain't 511 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: give it back to your hood. Aw you O G 512 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: in your hood? You don't care about your hood? Yeah, 513 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: care about your hood. You uplift your hood, you don't 514 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: destroy it. That's what we gotta do. You know what 515 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's what we got to do now, because 516 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: that's that's that's my message. Yeah, I'm gonna tell you 517 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: what I've been through. You know what I'm saying, because 518 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: you can sit in front of the TV and watch 519 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: Denzel and be entertained. Old thing. So if you want 520 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: to hear this ship I've been through and be entertained, 521 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: it's cool. But at the end of the day, I 522 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: don't want you walking away from me thinking that ship 523 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: is cool. I want you to learn from what I've 524 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: been through, so you ain't gotta go through it like 525 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: my man Porter, we can Mikey say, you gotta learn 526 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: what not to do, what not to do exactly. Because 527 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: the thing is, like I tell everybody, I tell I 528 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: work with a lot of kids, man, don't you know 529 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: I don't have youth football programs in the community, man, 530 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: not like we do a lot of stuff for the 531 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: community because I believe the kids they got there's a 532 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: future right there. If we don't look at them, them 533 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: gonna be the same little cats f all in through 534 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: your window. You look out for him and give him 535 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: some game. Right now, what is it that you have playing? Man? 536 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: Further to get your message out there many of these kids. Okay, 537 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: with the kids being at I recently jumped on YouTube 538 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: with the LG story Me and my man Mike st 539 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: Last shout out Mikey, my my partner shouting to st 540 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: Last giving us that platform on YouTube. Ever since we 541 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: did this, we've been getting so much positive feedback and 542 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: love and community. Where see, I did the twenty two 543 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: years and I didn't return back to my community. You 544 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: understand I'm saying I had to give myself a chance, 545 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: which was not returning back to my community and get 546 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: my life together. Don't get me wrong. I hit the 547 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: ground running and I made sure I gave back to society. 548 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: I just didn't get report back to my community. So 549 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: you got a lot. I popped up here and there 550 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: they seeing my face, but a lot of the youth 551 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: they heard of me, and they don't know me and 552 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: my man Mikey he'd been off the set for twenty 553 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: two years, maybe since Nut died. Rest in peace. So 554 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: they don't know us, and this YouTube ship has introduced 555 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: them to us. So we got their attention. And while 556 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: I got their attention, I must give them a message. 557 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: I got their attention. Bro, it would be a disservice 558 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: of me to not do that. So while I got 559 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: the attention, I want to give them a message so 560 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: they don't I have to go through with me and Mike. 561 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: You went through. That's to the youth. And that's what 562 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,479 Speaker 1: I'm saying because you know, man, I'm very fortunate man 563 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: that I have never been in the penitentiary. You know, 564 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: I've been locked up a couple of times for a 565 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: little stuff, not no longer and during time. But every 566 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: partner I got man actually dead time. They didn't come 567 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: home the same. It was like something missing with him. 568 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying, missing, Like what just like man, 569 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: you know, like I got one partner that came down. 570 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,479 Speaker 1: He came on hell of pair of noise. He came 571 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: over the house. Every time he heard the sound, he 572 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: was okay over there. You know what I'm saying. So 573 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: they came home different. You feel what I'm saying. She 574 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: she prison affect people in different ways, and people do 575 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: time different ways. You got a guy could go in 576 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: prison and he has no support system, so now he's 577 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: forced to live off the land of prison and sometimes 578 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: actually don't work for people, you know what I mean. 579 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: And next thing you know, motherfucker end up taking medication, 580 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: smoking cigarettes off the floor. Uh, doing a lot of solitary. 581 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: Can find me that ship getting the best of them. 582 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:15,959 Speaker 1: And then what they do, your time's up, They drop 583 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: you back in the streets. Now you come home, something 584 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: is missing, Yeah, exactly. But you know what I say, 585 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: no more, No, I had one. I got a couple 586 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: of home boys. They say time actually did them good 587 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: because they did their program. You got program there you go. 588 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: Then you got dudes who come to prison and say, 589 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna make the best of this. 590 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take this program. I'm gonna take that program. 591 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: I'm a better myself. So when I because you gotta 592 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: go to in New York, you got I don't know 593 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: about other prisons, but I know in New York, you 594 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: gotta go to the throw boy. You gotta make these 595 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: motherfucker's want to let you go. It didn't know, just 596 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: do your time and go home. You gotta sit here 597 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: after doing the time. Convinced these mothers and let you go. 598 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: So you got brothers who say that's seriously, and they 599 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: better themselves. They get no pro where they can't certificates, 600 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: they get a licensing, they getting degrees, they get the 601 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: education and it does better. And then when they come 602 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: home they offer running in their better people. That's well, man, 603 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: that's the that's the whole thing about it. Different stories, brother, 604 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: they can go different ways with different people. Man, worlds 605 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: all they could go for many different ways. Like I 606 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: came in as a kid. We want to do I 607 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: saw him, but ninety snipy too. I saw him nine 608 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: years later, two thousand. He won't past me, and I 609 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: was like if I noticed, dude, and he was on medication, 610 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: he was sold down looking for cigarette butts on the floor. 611 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: And nine years, nine years later. So it affects people 612 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: in different ways. And then when they let you out, 613 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: they don't do nothing for you. They don't put you 614 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: in a hospital and make sure you're good. They let 615 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,479 Speaker 1: your ass out just like that, just send you back 616 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: to the streets. And that's the thing. A lot of 617 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: people winning. It was already staying with grandma, but they 618 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: do time. Now Grandma's gone. Yeah, so you're coming on. 619 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: They put you in these shelters and that ship don't work. 620 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: Shelters is like prison. Was living like they in prison. 621 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: In the shelter. You're back on in the streets and 622 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: now times I intend I shouldn't be back to prison. Man, Fruit, 623 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 1: this is what I want to do. Man. Like we said, 624 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: I know you're short on time. Man, I appreciate you 625 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: coming home, coming on at this last minute like this. Man, 626 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: I appreciate having me. Brother, I appreciate you having me. 627 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 1: I'm I am truly out of and I'm blessed. Thank 628 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: you for show Bro. So what I want to do? 629 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: We canna come back with a part two to this. 630 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: But what's your YouTube channel? Man? What's the YouTube channel 631 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: that nextea? Just get YouTube? Do get to say? You 632 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: ever get it? Right? Uh? It's at duh Big Fruit. No, 633 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: the real fruit, the real truth. That's d A R 634 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,919 Speaker 1: E A L B I G true the real Big 635 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: Fruit for show man, y'all make and I'm gonna make 636 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 1: sure I dropped some links in there too. Man. I 637 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: definitely want you all to go check out man in 638 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: series they got going on. Man on f GS. Man, 639 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: it's crazy, it's real informative, man, as you can learn 640 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: a lot when you go on there. Also, you can 641 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: check me out on Instagram. My instagram is uh, Fruitball Underscore, 642 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: Sunny Underscore barely. Uh. The LG story is all over 643 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: the instagram. Uh. And if you want to go straight 644 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 1: to the Instagram, you can check out St Li's LG 645 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 1: story plateless. It's all in you know what I'm saying. 646 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: We try to do something big in that and with 647 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: the LGI story, what I'm trying to do is I'm 648 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: trying to see who want to bite. They like what 649 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: they see. They see the numbers, they see the views. 650 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,879 Speaker 1: It's moving, you know. I'm trying to get the lights, 651 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: camera action back in the hood. So the now boys, 652 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 1: I think it work. Man. The little kids out there 653 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: growing up in my projects, they act, they want to 654 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: do whatever. That's what I want to do, man, that's 655 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 1: what And and for everybody out there, IM gonna have 656 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: them links down below, So make sure y'all go down below, 657 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: check out the links and go hit my man up. Man. 658 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 1: I appreciate you, brother, but we're gonna shoot you and 659 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 1: we're gonna do part two, Part three. Whatever you need 660 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: for me, brother, oh for sure. So y'all be on 661 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:29,879 Speaker 1: the lookout for that. And we out of yet, pa. Well. 662 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: That concludes another episode of Against the Chronicles podcast. Be 663 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 1: sure to download the I Heart Appen subscribe to The 664 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: Gainst Chronicles podcast for Apple users. Find that purple mic 665 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 1: on the front screening your phone. Subscribe to the show, 666 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: leave for comment and a rating. Executive producers for The 667 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: Gangster Chronicles of Norm Steel James McDonald and Aaron M. 668 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 1: C taylor. Our visual media directors Brian Watt. Shows audio 669 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 1: editor is Taylor Hayes. The Gainster Chronicles. Here's a production 670 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: of the Black Effect Podcast Network and our Heart Media. 671 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: Any questions to come hit us up The Gangster Chronicles 672 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,399 Speaker 1: podcasts at gmail dot com. Peace, he said,