1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to at Friday at Issue of 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Texas All Access from Monday Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host, 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: John Harris, football an a sideline reporter. We're got some 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: fun tonight because we're gonna hear from Mike Renner, who 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: covers the draft for Pro Football Focus PF. PF Mike, 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: I think that's his Twitter handle as well. Mike does 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: a great job and we've been I think dep City, 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: who has been friends with him ever since his episodes 9 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: of the Past Slorette where Mike was on. This was 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: probably five, five, six years ago, so I know it's 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: always fun when DP has Mike Renner on. So we're 12 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: gonna have that. Then we're gonna go where are they now? 13 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: Were the last couple of segments of the show where 14 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: Drew Doherty catches up with I from salam Now if 15 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: you don't remember from he was starting tackle when Dwayne 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: Brown was drafted back in the eight so he had 17 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: been here for a little bit and he had played 18 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: next to Chester Pits. They both went to San Diego State. 19 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: They both were just really excited about having the Aztecs 20 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: in the final four, getting the championship game against Ukon 21 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: at basketball. So if from Salam will join us, where 22 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: are they now at Drew Dowry a little later in 23 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: the show, but let's kick it off with our pal 24 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:17,639 Speaker 1: dep City, who sat down with PF drafts expert Mike Renner. 25 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: Let's go deep. Takeaway. I think we've joked about it 26 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: being like every holiday wrapped up in one for you 27 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: this time of year. How excited are you for the 28 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three draft. I'm very excited, and I do 29 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: love April. It's just you get better, right, The excitement's 30 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: in the year. It's the one time a year where 31 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: you really can't lose. Whoever you pick improves your offster. 32 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: So's it's the most fun time of the year. In 33 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: my opinion, it's a lot of fun. It's a lot 34 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: of fun when the Texans have a pick in the 35 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: first round, which they do once again. So you've got 36 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: Bryce Young ranked as your QB one in your draft reports. 37 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: But what's your reaction if Bryce Young is sitting there 38 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: at number two and he's available for the Texans to draft. 39 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: My reaction is it should not take more than five 40 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: to ten seconds for that card to be in Roger 41 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: Goodell's hand, because because he's a franchise changing type of guy, 42 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: whether it's his personality, whether it's his on field performance, 43 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 1: Like he's an easy guy to rally around. He's the 44 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: kind of guy who you know, has that ship on 45 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: his shoulder that just kind of rallies everyone else. That's 46 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: very easy to buy into that a lot of coaches love. 47 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: So yeah, Bryce Shan I think he's the best quarterback 48 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: lins class. And if he is there at number two, 49 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: like it's they got to be thinking they're lucky stars. Well, 50 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: a lot of MOP drafts obviously have him going number 51 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: one overall. But the other scenario is that CJ. Strout 52 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: is available at number two. So how excited should Texans 53 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: fans be if CJ. Strout is their quarterback? And why? 54 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: I think he's very accurate. I think in you know, 55 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: the system you're bringing over from San Francisco, Bobby Slowe's offense, 56 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: I don't expect it to be too dissimilar from what 57 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers run. And if you look at 58 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: his tape at Ohio State in his best season, you 59 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: know twenty twenty one, when he really had statistically lit 60 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: it up. He was working the middle of the field, 61 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: he was hitting guys over that area where the forty 62 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: nine ers offense lives like it's play action and then 63 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: let's get right in behind those linebackers. You know, that's 64 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: why Jackson Smith and Jigba the slot receiver for Ohio State, 65 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: why he put up so many numbers, is because Stroud 66 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: was very comfortable going to him between linebackers, between safeties, 67 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: hitting those type of windows. That's just the type of 68 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: quarterback he is. So if it's not a quarterback at 69 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: number two, who do you want the Texans to pick 70 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: at number two? And why? I think you have to 71 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: go either Jail and Carter will Anderson. Obviously, with Jian 72 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: Carters past few months, I think you'd probably trend towards 73 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: will Anderson. But one, you need the defensive line help, 74 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,839 Speaker 1: right the Texans defensive line was one of the worst 75 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: in the NFL last season. They've obviously tried to address 76 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: it over the course of the off season, but still 77 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: probably need more help there. And those two guys are 78 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: just they may not be the best four years from 79 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: now from this draft class, but they have the highest floor. 80 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: There are guys who are tomorrow Day one on an 81 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: NFL field will make an impact to where it might 82 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: be worth passing on a quarterback if Bryce Young's not 83 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: there for one of those guys. So, as Pro Football 84 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: Focus is lead draft analysts, what do you consider a 85 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: win for the Texans at number two and number twelve? 86 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: What I would want if I'm a Texans fan? At 87 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: number two, Bryce Young, that's ideal scenario. Then at number 88 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: twelve you can go a number of different ways. I'm 89 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: of the opinion though, give him Bryce Young kind of 90 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: what we've seen Joe Burrow get kind of what we've 91 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 1: seen Josh Allen get where it's like, give him a 92 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: guy that he trusts right off the gate that can 93 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: grow with him. To me, that's Jackson Smith and Jig. 94 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: I think he's the best wide receiver in this draft class. 95 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 1: You can call him maybe a slot only, but I 96 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: think in again going back to what you know the 97 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: forty nine ers run, he can be a versatile guy 98 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: because he's so good on inbreaking routes. That's what that 99 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: offense relies on. You're probably going to see a lot 100 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: of it this upcoming season. He's one of the best 101 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: in this class. Added, he can run a mean slant. 102 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: So pairing those two skill sets together. That's a great 103 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: start to compete with, you know, Trevor Lawrence in your 104 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: same division. Now, so last year, the Texans drafted running 105 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: back Damian Pierce, who just became this breakout star for 106 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: the Texans offense last year, and then this offseason they 107 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: signed Devin single Cherry, who want similar grades per PF 108 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 1: just as running backs. Single Cherry was ranked ninth among 109 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: running backs and Pierce was ranked twelfth among running backs. 110 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: So how can a guy like single Charry really compliment 111 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: when Damian Pierce has to offer? Yeah, I'm not sure 112 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: he can compliment him. Is the problem here. They're very 113 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: similar backs, Like they are both not the fastest, not 114 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: the most fleet of foot, but they break a lot 115 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: of tackles. Then they run tough between the tackles. So 116 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: I don't think either are like great receiving options. I 117 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: know Singletary's really struggled with drops and bumbles over the 118 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: course of his career. It's more just you know, when 119 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 1: Damian Pierce does need a breather, which he will, because 120 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: you don't really you really don't like he's good enough 121 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: that you're you're not going to have a running back 122 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: by committee. He's the guy that you don't want to 123 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: be taking off the field, but when he does have to, 124 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: you basically get kind of a poor man's version of 125 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,679 Speaker 1: Damien Pierce there with Devin Single there all right, Dalton 126 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: Schultz tight end, he does a lot of things well. 127 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: PFF has him ranked as number six as a run 128 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: blocking tight end in twenty twenty two, and in the 129 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: last two seasons, only three tight ends have more touchdowns 130 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: than him. So how does a guy like Dalton Schultz 131 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: really open up the Texans offense? Yeah? I think he 132 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: gives you a reliable presence over the middle of the field, 133 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: Like that's a guy you want for a young quarterback 134 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: because he's very good after the catch, very reliable with 135 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: his hands, and then just a versatile type of tight 136 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: end as you mentioned, They're like he can run block, 137 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: he can play in line, and then you can split 138 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: wide two if you really want him too. So he's 139 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: just a safe piece to add to the offense. You 140 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: still probably need a number one type of wide receiver, 141 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: but you make it so that you don't really have 142 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: your ancillary pieces are reliable as well. So I think 143 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: that was one of my favorite signings they made all offseason. Well, 144 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: what do you think Texans fans are gonna like about 145 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz? Again, I think Dalton Schultz. I think you're 146 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: gonna love just the reliability aspect. He was a chain 147 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: mover for the Dallas Cowboys. He was the guy that 148 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: you could trust in whatever aspect of the game it was, 149 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: whether it was run blocking, whether it's out in space, 150 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: whether it's contested catch us. I just think he's an 151 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: all around solid tight end safety. Jimmy Ward, he's at 152 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: such a versatile defensive back. I should really say played 153 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: nicol but Damiko Ryan said he is going to play safety. 154 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: So my player grade PFF had Jimmy Ward as the 155 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: number six safety from last season and then last year 156 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: the Texans they drafted Jalen Petrie and of course Derek 157 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: Stanley Junior along with him. So with Jimmy Ward in 158 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: that backfield, how does he really elevate the play of 159 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: some younger guys around him. Well, he's a guy that 160 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: can basically Jimmy Ward can come in and teach other people. 161 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: Jamca Ryan's defense, right, he could be a coach on 162 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: the field because he's been in its first so long 163 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: there with his time in San Francisco, nobviously coming over 164 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: to Houston, So that aspect is huge, especially at a 165 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: position like safety, where it is a mental position. You 166 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: are having to deal with a lot of variables. You're 167 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: the one on the back end making sure everyone's in 168 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: the right spot, so that aspect is huge. One. Again, 169 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: you have a lot of young youth in the secondary 170 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: with two second year players, and I expect them to 171 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: add another probably piece of the secondary in the draft. 172 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: But then he also gives you versatility. Is a guy 173 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: who's played slot over the course of his career. He's 174 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: played outside corner at times over the course of his career. 175 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: And now that gives you two guys in Jail and 176 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: Petrie at Jimmy Ward that you really can do whatever with. 177 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: You know, Petrie played slot at Baylor and that was 178 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: one of his best skill sets, is his work around 179 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. So it gives you the flexibility 180 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: to deploy those guys really however you want to. On 181 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: the back end. Linebacker Denzel perriman great run stopper, sets 182 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: the Raiders franchise record for tackles in twenty twenty one. 183 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: Demiko Ryans talked about bringing in veterans and free agency 184 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: and really helping to guide some of the younger players along. 185 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: So how important was it to add a guy like 186 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: Perriman sort of build the defense at demco Ryans wants, Yeah, 187 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: they want they want physical linebackers that are going to 188 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: set the tone. You know, that was what Fred Warner 189 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 1: was in that defense out in San Francisco. Now Perraman's 190 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: not quite that in coverage, but again it's another position 191 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: that you're probably going to add to over the course 192 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: of the draft. You got a lot of picks, maybe 193 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: not a great linebacker clash, but you're going to add 194 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: some youth. So you want some veteran presence there that 195 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: can again show these young guys the ropes, because that's 196 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: as much as you know the coaches, that's their job. 197 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: But also like you learn a lot from the players 198 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: in your in your room as well. So I do 199 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: think that an a guy like that's big just for 200 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: the transitional period here, because it's he's probably not going 201 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: to be there when you know, this roster is set 202 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: two or three years from now, you got your franchise 203 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,599 Speaker 1: guy at quarterback and whatnot. He's probably not gonna be 204 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: in the cards, but right now he can give you 205 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: really bring along those young guys in that linebacking room. 206 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: Lard and finally Shack Mason Texans out of veteran guard 207 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: to join the most highly paid left tackle. We think 208 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: he's the best left tackle in the league in Laramy Tunsel. 209 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: Then last year the Texans they drafted Kenyon Green, another guard, 210 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: Titus Howard seems to be finding his fit at the 211 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: right tackle spot. So what do you like about the 212 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: addition of Shack Mason for the Texans old line. It's massive. 213 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: I love him in the run game. He's unique, dude, 214 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: that he's one heck of an athlete. He can play 215 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: out in space really well. And this is a line 216 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: or a run scheme that's far more it's going to 217 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: be far more lateral than what we've seen in years 218 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: past for the Houston Texans. Like they get out in space, 219 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: they're on outside zone, they pull to the edge. Shack 220 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: Mason's the guy you want running that. So it kind 221 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: of is a scheme. Transition helps you in that, and 222 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: that just helps you in that you kind of have 223 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: a starting five. Now you go into this draft with 224 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: the ability to not say we have to have a 225 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: guard or we have to have a tackle, no, you 226 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: have options everywhere. Maybe they're not elite options, but you 227 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: have enough options that you're not pigeon holing yourself into 228 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: one position, which is where you always want to be 229 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: come draft in. All right, Mike, always appreciate the time. 230 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 1: I know it's a busy time of year for you, 231 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: an exciting time of year for you as well. Do 232 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: you have any more draft iterations coming up? I know 233 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: there's just a little bit of time left. The final 234 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 1: Draft guide is out ATPF dot com. Two hundred players. 235 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: We have. The final draft board comes out next week 236 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: and are my final knock draft should be the week 237 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: after that, So go check all those out at PF 238 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: dot com, PF microner things for the time. We'll see 239 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: again maybe next year for sure. Thanks for having me. 240 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: So next year, we're not talking about two and twelve, 241 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: although I wouldn't be mine. I wouldn't mind talking about 242 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: two and twelve after a playoff trip. But let's hope 243 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: it's not two and twelve next year. Maybe two after 244 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown's disaster of a season, But we'll see how 245 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: that all works out. In twenty twenty three, Button the 246 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 1: draft is thirteen days away. Millard Door theater. Get there. 247 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. Hopefully the weather it's gonna be 248 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: great like it was last year, and we'll have a 249 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: blast there. Emilark door Theater, Come check out myself, Mark Andre, 250 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: Robert Hendley with the news updates. In fact, Robert and 251 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: I were trading text back and forth about some things 252 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: and Texans might or might not do in the draft. 253 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: So there's that all right on a Friday night, it's 254 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 1: time to have some fun with I from Salam, one 255 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: of the Texans from way back, played offensive tackle. He 256 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: was a guy who predated Dwayne Brown and just one 257 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 1: heck of a duty from Salam with Drew Dohorty next 258 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: right here in Texans All Access, Where are They Now? 259 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: One of my favorite segments that we do here on 260 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: Texans All Access. Appreciate you being with me, John Harris Football, 261 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: I know side down reporter Drew Doherty has been around 262 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: since two thousand and eight, so he knows a ton 263 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: of these players, has interviewed them, has been around them, 264 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 1: and always makes a little where are they Now? Really 265 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: really fun and he's got one with Ifrom Salam, who 266 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: is just an incredible individual San Diego State product to 267 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: play for the Texans. Was just such a great representative 268 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: of the Texans. So it's do a little where aren't 269 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: they now? With if from Salam Drew take it away 270 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: all right. If he's not the most fascinating former Houston Texans, 271 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: he is certainly in the argument for it. It's the one, 272 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: the only if from Salam an offensive lineman for the 273 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: Houston Texans at the end of the first decade of 274 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: the century. And you pop by a little bit later 275 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 1: as well. You spent thirteen years in the NFL. I 276 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: from It's great to see you. How you've been. What's 277 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: going on? I'm great man, It's great to see you two. Drew. Yes, 278 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: you were just back in Houston recently and you've got 279 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: that shirt on San Diego State. You're proud alum played 280 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: football for the Aztecs. You also played hoops for them, 281 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: so that was extra special for you. I imagine coming 282 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: back you're a place where you live for a little bit, 283 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: but also supporting the program that you called home. You know. 284 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: It was one of those things was it was very surreal. 285 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: I remember I came to the stadium really early Saturday, 286 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: right and I was coming into the stadium when the 287 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: workers were coming into the stadium. The mcnaires were gracious. 288 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: They gave me access to the stadium, what I call 289 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: my second home, and I was I was walking around 290 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: the concourse and it dawned on me, I had never 291 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: been up there to that part of the stadium. Why 292 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: would you have? So it was it was so surreal 293 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: because I was thinking, I was like, wow, I spent 294 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: five years of my career in this building and I've 295 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 1: never been up here before. And so I was walking 296 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 1: down on the floor where at the basketball court, and 297 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: then back into back where the locker rooms were, and 298 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: it just it was kind of like the perfect storm 299 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: where my alma mater, San Diego State Aztecs one hundred 300 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: and twenty five years, the first time they'd ever been 301 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: in this position in the Final four, playing in a 302 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: place where I called home for so many years. It 303 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: was very emotional and and and very heartfelt, and I 304 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: felt really grateful to be a part of a moment 305 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: so big. Talking with former Houston Texans offensive lineman from 306 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: salam from you played basketball for them for how many years? 307 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: I mean one year my junior year in basketball, but 308 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: when I was recruited, just for a lot of the 309 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: schools that recruited me, they agreed to also allow me 310 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: to play basketball. It was pretty good basketball player coming 311 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: out of high school, and so that was their rooting pitch, like, hey, 312 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: you can even play on our basketball team. At the time, 313 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: coming out of high school, I only waited one hundred 314 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: and eighty five pounds, So being an offensive lineman really 315 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: wasn't what I was going to college for. I was 316 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: an outside linebacker in the defensive end, and so I 317 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: mean I gained one hundred pounds of San Diego State 318 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: and became a left tackle. But outside of that, that 319 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: was the recruiting pitch, Hey you can play on both, 320 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: and I was able to fulfill that the dream of 321 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: my junior year at San Diego State. Now with former 322 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: Houston Texans offensive lineman from salam Now, obviously you played 323 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: football professionally and you did it for a long time, 324 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: but it was football your first love. It was a 325 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: basketball but it just which was it? Basketball is my 326 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: first love? Okay? All right? I was just really good 327 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: at football. Really, so taking mind, I didn't play football 328 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: until my ninth grade year in high school, which that's 329 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: not atypical. I mean, there's a lot of guys it's not. 330 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: It's not a good friend of mine. John Hellman was 331 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: on the football team and he asked the coach can 332 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: I play? And and it it that's you know, that's 333 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: how I really got introduced to football. I played my 334 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: freshman year, then half of that got moved up to JV. 335 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: And the next year I got my first college letter. 336 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: So I was when I was fourteen years old, I 337 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: got my first recruitment letter from Illinois University to fight 338 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: in the lion on after playing football for one year. 339 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: And I was and this is pre internet, this is 340 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: pre so I didn't even remember that meant something back then, 341 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: but it means a little bit more then. It was 342 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: a brand new school as well. Sure when we my 343 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: freshman year, we only had ninth and tenth graders, Oh wow, 344 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: because it was brand new school, just open Sacramento, right 345 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: in Sacramentramento, Flooring High School up in Sacramento. So to 346 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: be able to be found by colleges that early. I 347 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: just had a love for football. It was just was 348 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: It really was easy. It was easier than basketball. Basketball 349 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: took a little bit more coordination, Like you wanted me 350 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: to dribble and you and right like so it was 351 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: a little bit more nuanced to basketball, but football really 352 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: came naturally to me. Former Houston Texans old lineman from 353 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: Salam with us. Let's fast forward and we're gonna rewind. 354 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna bounce all over in this interview. Bounce. I'm good, 355 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: Just bounce, are you? The stuff I've heard about what 356 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: you're doing now fascinates me. I've said that word a 357 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 1: few times now. But what are you up to these days? 358 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: Because you've got a lot going on? Man, I do 359 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: have a lot going on. Well, I'll start with the 360 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: producing in movies. When I was eighteen years ago, my 361 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: brother and I started a movie company, film company. We 362 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: got our first foray into producing films, and that just 363 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: became my love. I loved the entertainment aspect of production. 364 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: I love, you know, scripts and being on set. I 365 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: was fascinated by all of that, like a lot of 366 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: us are, and so well. We created a film company, 367 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: changed names over the years, but that was my really 368 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: my passion outside of football and sports were films. I 369 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: love films. That's my happy place. When things weren't going well, 370 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: I go sitt in the movies by myself. Yeah, So 371 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: we started making films I started producing seventeen years later, 372 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: and for a film company that's done extremely well independently, 373 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: over one hundred and fifty million dollars at the box 374 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: office independently. That led me into writing. I wrote my 375 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: first screenplay about five and a half years ago. I 376 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: was a romantic comedy and it was called The List. 377 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: And I was speaking to one of my close friends 378 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: about it and what I was about to do next, 379 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: and he just so happened to be a showrunner for 380 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: a television show. I was explaining these movies that I 381 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: had in my mind that I was going to write. 382 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: He said, what I was fascinating, I want you to 383 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: come and be a part of my television show. And 384 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: I was like what he was like? His name was 385 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: Chris Collins and he had gotten his start from the soprime. 386 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 1: He's been doing it for a long time, the sopranos, 387 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: Man in the High Castle Son Orvannicky the Wire Like 388 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: he's you know, he's been in this. I mean you 389 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: just named like two or three mount Rushmore TV shows. 390 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he's the real deal. Yeah. And 391 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: coming from him saying he told me, he said, look, 392 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: you've lived a life and you have a perspective that 393 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: no one in the writer's room will have. You've seen 394 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: things and done things and been and have had access 395 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: to that. These kids from Harvard or Yale or Stanford 396 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: who who become writers or in his writers room, they don't, 397 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: they've never experienced anything like that. And I meet that perspective. 398 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: You mean, they've never seen Kyle Turley or the Dirty Birds, 399 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: or Chester Pits or Ryan Cushing or they've never seen that. 400 00:19:55,720 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: You don't think a lot of names. So I just 401 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: left off. Oh, it's it's it's a lot, but it's 402 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: the way. It's the lens which I viewed life having 403 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: reached that level of success. Right, So it's a professional athlete, 404 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: the realization of less than zero point one percent of 405 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: the world's population can become professional athletes. That's just what 406 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: it is. You can't buy your way into it, you know, 407 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:24,479 Speaker 1: it's it's something that takes an extremely rare amount of skill, 408 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: and that's for any professional sport. What comes with that 409 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: is a different lens to view life through. Once you've 410 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: exceeded exhaled and you've gotten to a point and something 411 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: that's almost impossible to do, you begin to look at 412 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: life and have different life experiences that others can't have have, yeh, 413 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: And to take that and then to pour that into 414 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: a character or to a story, that's what he wanted. 415 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: He saw the value in that. And that first show 416 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: that I was a part of was called The Continental, 417 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: based on the Hotel and the John Wick movies. Okay, yeah, 418 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: it had nothing to do with sports, which I really 419 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: liked because once you played football or basketball and e 420 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: sport at a high level, people would like to put 421 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: you in a box and right now you can only 422 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: write about sports, or you can only do this or 423 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:17,479 Speaker 1: And so me having my first foray into writing, uh 424 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: television as writing for assassins, you know that. To me 425 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: it was I was exciting because when I walked into 426 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: that writer's room with these writers who've been in there 427 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: for years, I didn't feel like they had an upper 428 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: hand because no one in there wasn't an assassin like 429 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: so we all we all were creating this world from 430 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: you know, from from Make Believe, our own thoughts, in 431 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: our own minds. So it really made me feel like 432 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: I belonged. And it kind of resembled being in a 433 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: locker room and being on a team because it was 434 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: very collaborative talking with former Houston Texans offensive lineman e 435 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: from Salam From also been involved. You help write on 436 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: bell Air, which is a kind of a role, you know. 437 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: Fast forward, you know, three years from then, I had 438 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: been on three other shows and they got an opportunity 439 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 1: to be a part of the remake of The Fresh 440 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: Prince of the bell Air called bell Air on Peacock 441 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,479 Speaker 1: Right now, it's the number one show on the channel 442 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: and I've been there since the genesis, since twenty twenty. 443 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: Oddly enough, Chris Collins was the original showrunner of that show, 444 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: and he called and said, Hey, I want you to 445 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: meet this kid, Morgan Cooper, who had reimagining another French 446 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 1: Fresh Prince of Bellair. I think you guys would get along. 447 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: I meant Morgan and asked me to be a part 448 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: of the project, and we're going on our third season 449 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: now and I am the only writer who's still a 450 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: part of it that's been there since the genesis of 451 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: the show. That's got to feel good, you know. Well, 452 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 1: it's about it's about value. It's about the value you 453 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 1: bring to a project, to a room, to a show. 454 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: And it's the same way I felt about the NFL 455 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: as a seventh round draft pick. The only way I 456 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: last thirteen years is if every year I bring value 457 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,719 Speaker 1: into the locker room. Yeah, right onto the team. So 458 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: I use that same mentality, that same muscle that allowed 459 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: me to have a long career in the NFL and 460 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: everything I do, especially in writing to qualify things. You 461 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: just said, Hey, I was a seventh rounder. And there's 462 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: some seventh rounders who they hang on and they have 463 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: a thirteen year career, but they don't really play much. 464 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: Their swing guy or you out of the gate, you 465 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: start nineteen games, you start that Super Bowl that you're 466 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: with Atlanta against Dan Rose, a hell of it Atlanta team. 467 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: You took down the Vikings. Everyone says, oh that that 468 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: Vikings king should wad a all. They only won one 469 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 1: more game than you guys did. Yeah, it was an 470 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: excellent team that you guys beat. And then you started 471 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: a lot of games in the NFL for a seventh rounder, 472 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: for a first rounder, it doesn't matter. I started a 473 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: lot of games. Yeah, well first pretty much first ten 474 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: years in the league, I was a starter. Yeah, And 475 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: so that rookie year coming in with the mentality of 476 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: I belong I should have been drafted earlier and having 477 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: just getting an opportunity to showcase my talent and training camp. 478 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: That was the beginning of I start that those nineteen games, 479 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: I make the All Rookie team. I'm the youngest player 480 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: to ever start in the Super Bowl at the time. 481 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: That was the beginning of my career. So when the 482 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: opportunity presented itself for me to have a chance to start, 483 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: I took it and it It came down to the 484 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: last preseason game, the fourth preseason game. Art Shill, the 485 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: great Art Shill, who was my offensive line coach, was 486 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: me and another player aside and say, hey, Corey, you're 487 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: gonna start from You'll play the second quarter, Corey, you'll 488 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: play the thirty from, you play the fourth. Whoever plays 489 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: the best, it's going to be our starter opening day 490 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: next week. Wow, that's all I mean, That's just an opportunity. 491 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: That is a flat out you versus him who and 492 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: just go out there and put it all on the line. 493 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: And having that opportunity was what got me my start 494 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: in my career. I went out there, I played well 495 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: enough for them to pumple me in as a starter 496 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: that year, and that I never looked back. That was 497 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 1: the beginning of the rest of my football career, like 498 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: having that opportunity. And that's the value I talked about 499 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: bringing to something, whatever you're part of, If you can 500 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 1: bring value as a seventh round draft pick or someone 501 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: who has never been in the writer's room, or as 502 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: someone who's never produced a film, if you can be 503 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 1: if you can bring value, there'll always be a place 504 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: for it, right, And it's it comes from the belief 505 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: in yourself. Like I never feel like I'm in above 506 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: my head, I never feel like something that's too big. 507 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: With former Houston Texans offensive lineman from salam From, how 508 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: much of that belief was helped by what you did 509 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: as a rookie? How much of it was already there 510 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: and allowed you to do that as a rookie? What 511 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: you want to understand what I'm saying, I mean, did that? Yeah? 512 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: I get it well. Even to get to that point, 513 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 1: to even be drafted, you have to be a little 514 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 1: You have to have the belief in yourself that maybe 515 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: others don't right. So many times kids are told, you know, 516 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: don't put all your eggs in one basket. Don't do that, 517 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: that's too hard. I was told that, you know, being 518 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: a professional football player was almost impossible. Like, once you 519 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: grow up hearing no and no and you shouldn't, then 520 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: you you can either succumb to it or you can 521 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: become a product of it. And I was a product 522 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: of no. I refused to take no. So moving forward 523 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,479 Speaker 1: after football, I refuse to let anyone tell me what 524 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: I can and can't do. You can't tell me I 525 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 1: can't write or a television show, or produce a movie, 526 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: or be a CNN Corps responded, or have my own 527 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: radio show, my whole television show. You can't tell me that, 528 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: because I've already accomplished things that no one on the 529 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: planet Earth would drink possible. Former Houston Texans Old Lineman 530 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: from salam with us. So the production company you've written, 531 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: what else? Because that's not it. I mean we've only covered, 532 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: like we scratched the surface on what you are doing? Now? 533 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: What where you are? Now? Where are you physically? You're 534 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: in LA I take it. I'm in Los Angeles, yes, 535 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: studios Okay, And you're you're in addition to what we 536 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: just mentioned, what are you? What else are you doing? 537 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: Because you you're a talking head quote unquote from time 538 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: to time, you're in the media, what the all is 539 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: going on? I do a lot of I have a 540 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 1: weekend radio show Saturdays and Sundays on Serious XM eighty three. 541 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: I also am a correspondent for CNN. How'd that come about? Um? 542 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: You know what, a lot of things happen for me, 543 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: like you get one chance, right, somebody had canceled or something. 544 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: My publicist call and said, hey, CNN wants we want 545 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: you to know if you can make it down to 546 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: the bureau, which is not ten minutes away from my 547 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 1: house years ago, and so I go and I can't 548 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: even remember what we were talking about. And I'm sitting 549 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: on there with one of the hosts and had a 550 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just being me, right, I'm just And 551 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: after that, the producer called me and was like, Hey, 552 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 1: that was amazing. We're getting a lot of great feedback. 553 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: Would you like to do this more often? Well? Absolutely? 554 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: And so it just and I never know when I'm 555 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: going on and that's the beauty of it. So the 556 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: unfortunate events that happened between Buffalo and Cincinnati and tomorrow Hamlin. 557 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: Literally ten minutes after that happened, CNN calls, can you 558 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: get on in five minutes? Yes? I can put my 559 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: suit jacket on, came into my office and like. So 560 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: it's one of those things to where when people know 561 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,719 Speaker 1: that it can depend on you and you're you make 562 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: yourself available for things. I love doing it. Yeah, I 563 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: love doing I love giving. And it's not just about sports. 564 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: I've done you know, political things. I've done all of 565 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: these things on that platform. But the main reason I 566 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: really do all of this, Drew, is to show people, 567 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: not only professional athletes, but to show people you don't 568 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: have to just do one thing. You don't have to 569 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: be known for this. So many times my contemporaries don't 570 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: get an opportunity to explore other things because people just 571 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: look at them as an athlete, right. And you know, 572 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: I purposely didn't take a job at ESPN coming out 573 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: of when I retired because they wanted me to like 574 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: join NFL Live and then you know do those shows, 575 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: which are great. Look, I love the NFL. It's opened 576 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: up all of the doors for me. But I didn't 577 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: want to retire from football and just talk about football. 578 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: There's so many other things that I'm fascinated with. Like, 579 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: we had already had our film company up and going, 580 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: so I didn't want to just go be relegated to 581 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: talking about the exes and ohs. So when Fox launched 582 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: FS one Fox Sports one, they said, look, it just 583 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: won't be football. You can talk basketball, baseball, whatever it is. 584 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: We want to talk about all sports. And that was 585 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: attractive to me because I'm like, you know, I'm a 586 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: basketball fan. So I'd rather give you my in depth, 587 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: you know, breakdown of the play ins that are coming 588 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: in and then our first round of the NBA playoffs 589 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: that started Saturday, Like, I'd rather give you that then 590 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: breakdown what happened on third down and yeah, yeah, you 591 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Talking with former Houston Texans offensive 592 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: lineman e from salam from pardon me because I don't 593 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: know everything about your production company, but I sure do 594 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: hope that you're at least providing in some instances some 595 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: narration because you got a hell of voice. I mean, 596 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: you need to be a voice actor. Well you need 597 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: to add that to the arsenal. So you got that 598 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: good voice going, well you know what that might be? 599 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: That might be something that I'll look into. The only problem. 600 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: The only problem is, and this is something that I 601 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: really take pride in. I'm a coach, as well, so 602 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: I'm coach. I coached my sons and we have a 603 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: game today. I coached my son in baseball, and I 604 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: coached both of my sons in basketball, ordered their ages 605 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: eleven and eight. Okay, I coach. They're in different age groups. 606 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: So in basketball, I'm coaching two separate teams. Normally, I 607 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: don't know if you have kids or not, but just 608 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: imagine coaching a bunch of nineteen year olds and eleven 609 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: and twelve year olds in practice then in games. By 610 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: the end of the week, it's gone. I just recovered 611 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: getting my voice back because basketball was ended. The San 612 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: Diego States run hit and I had zero voice that Sunday, 613 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: after that miraculous shot by Lamont Butler, I did a 614 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: show from Houston. I did my radio show from Houston, 615 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: and it was gone. It was good, right, So I 616 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: am so hard on my voice because I'm active, And 617 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: to me, that's the biggest sports accomplishment I've ever had 618 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: was coaching these young people. I never wanted to be 619 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: a coach, Dad, I never wanted to be that guy, right, 620 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: And a couple of years ago I started it and 621 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:37,959 Speaker 1: then I fell in love with it, and I just 622 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: love to watch the growth from when you know, I 623 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: get some kids who've never played before, some kids who've 624 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: played years and trying to combine them and create a team, 625 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: and I really really love it. It wears me out, 626 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: but it's so fulfilling. We had an opportunity Park I 627 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: coach had asked me to coach their minors All Star 628 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: team for the entire and Fernando Valley fifteen teams. It 629 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: was sort of like a March Madness style tournament, and 630 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: we made it all the way to the championship game. 631 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: We lost by four when my kids played their butts off, 632 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: and that was the first time the park had gotten 633 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: there in eight years. All right, that's great stuff from 634 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: I from Salam and also coach Drew Doherty. Yeah, his 635 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: bees are crushing it. They're undefeated the last I knew. 636 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: I think they still are, so Drew Dorty's getting it 637 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: done on the baseball diamond as well. Already get back. 638 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: We'll have more with I from to finish up on 639 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,719 Speaker 1: a Friday. Right here in Texas All Access. We all 640 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: final a segment of this sedition. Texas All Access appreciate 641 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: you being here with me. John Harris football analyst Sideline reporter. 642 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: It's time to get back to our conversation a little. 643 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: Where are they now with I from Salam and Drew 644 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: Doherty and I could speak to this one as well. 645 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: I from was speaking about his voice and coaching. You 646 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: lose it very fast, There's no question. I remember coaching 647 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: my very first game. I couldn't talk for three days afterward. 648 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: Drew as head coach of the Bees seven and eight 649 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: year old baseball playing studs. Wow, he's having some of 650 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: the same problems. I know what you mean about the 651 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: voice thing on the head. You're looking with you. You're 652 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: talking with the head coach of the seven and eight 653 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: year old Bees, the baseball team, coach pitch baseball. My 654 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: voice is gone two Mondays ago, with the pollen in 655 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,240 Speaker 1: the air and yelling. So yeah, I think coaching youth 656 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 1: sports is the new smoking two packs a camel, unfiltered game. 657 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: Make your voice nice and temporary. Yeah, So I know 658 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: where you're coming from exactly right. Okay, let's talk about 659 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: your time with the Texans for a bit. You're you're 660 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: here in a very interesting era because they were coming 661 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: out of those first few years where they're losing as 662 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: an expansion team and they're starting to go five hundred 663 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: and they're starting to get close to making the playoffs. 664 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: What was that? Like? What brought you here? You you've 665 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 1: got that background. You you played under Dan Reeves, he's 666 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: obviously a Broncos guy, and and you do play with 667 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: the Broncos, you've got the Kubiak. How much did that 668 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: play into you coming here? Well, it played everything into it. 669 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 1: I had left the Broncos. I went to Jacksonville for 670 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: two years, which was not a good fit. Just didn't 671 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: you know Bronco different Broncos offensive linemen were very light 672 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: at the time. I was about two eighty five and 673 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: I as a left as a starting left tackle, and 674 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 1: I leave and go to Jacksonville and they're tight end 675 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: was two eighty five. So it was a situation where 676 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 1: you know, their offensive lineman with three twenty five, three thirty. 677 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: It just wasn't the right fit. And so at the 678 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: end of the old five or six season, Gary Kubiak 679 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: gets the head coaching job at Houston, and I'll never 680 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: forget I was like, Wow, I'd love to go play 681 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: for Gary again. One day later, my phone rings, it's Gary. 682 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: He says, Hey, what's going on? I said, Hey, Gary, 683 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: what's He said? Are you going back to Jacksonville? I said, 684 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 1: I don't think so. He said, how about you come 685 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: to Houston and help me show these guys what we 686 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 1: do on the offensive line, because you know much maligned 687 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: the sacks, the number of sacks and the number of hits. 688 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 1: David Carr was taken. He was like, I need you 689 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 1: to come help me teach these these guys how to 690 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 1: play together as an offensive line. I said, one, sign 691 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: me up. I mean the number one reason and this 692 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: is I'm gonna tell you this story. And I don't 693 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 1: know if you know this Drew. That year, the NBA 694 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: All Star Game was in Houston. I came out to Houston. 695 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,240 Speaker 1: I was at some events. Chester Manchester had some poker 696 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: event and we were sitting there talking and laughing. And 697 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: Chester and I, as you know, go way back to college. 698 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: He was the left tackle, the starting left tackle at 699 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: the time. And I said, hey man, and this is 700 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: pre Gary Kubiak, this is this is I said, I'm 701 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: gonna end up coming here and you're gonna have to 702 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: move to left guard because I'm playing left tackle. And 703 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: he said, no, no, no, no, I'm the left tackle. 704 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to play guard? Are you gonna have 705 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: to play right tackle? I said, all right, watch just 706 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: watch forward to that phone call and I get here, 707 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 1: and sure enough, they moved Chester down to left guard, 708 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 1: which was a better fit for him, and put me 709 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 1: at left tackle right next to him. So that was 710 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: kind of like a like a dream for me to 711 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 1: me for me to be able to play with one 712 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 1: of my close friends outside of football right become friends 713 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: because of football. He was one of my close friends 714 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: outside of football, and to be able to play next 715 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: to him for that amount of years, that was just 716 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: like a dream come true for me. Former Houston Texans 717 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: old lineman from salam with us. You talk about Gary saying, hey, 718 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: I want you to help teach these guys take the 719 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 1: money out of it. How much did that aspect, Hey, 720 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: I want you to help me be a kind of 721 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: a coach on the field, help install it because it 722 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 1: was a different Zoe blocking scheme. Not many other teams 723 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: were doing that, and so they're coming from a spot 724 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 1: that's where they did it the best. How much did 725 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 1: that mean to you and how much did that kind 726 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: of plant that seed of coaching deeper into your brain? 727 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,720 Speaker 1: Because I'm sure it was there. Anyways, it was great 728 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 1: because I could speak to the guys on a peer level, 729 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: right and it was a tangible No like this, watch 730 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: me coming from a coach. Sometimes you just tuned coaches out. 731 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 1: It happens. You get tuned out. I get tuned out. 732 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,479 Speaker 1: Sometimes the athletes just tuned the coaches out. But when 733 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:26,279 Speaker 1: you have someone who can teach from within, it just 734 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,800 Speaker 1: hits different. It resonates different because now you can watch 735 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 1: and you can say, like, see how I opened up 736 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 1: with that step, if you load this foot. Now they 737 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 1: can see it actually happening as they're learning it, which 738 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 1: is an easier way to learn, especially when there's so 739 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 1: many moving pieces and everything has to be aligned and 740 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: together for that offensive line, for the zone blocking natural work. Okay, 741 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: so you bring up Chester. You guys famously were on 742 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: the amazing race together. Didn't go, didn't end the way 743 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: you wouldn't like it, But that's cool that you're on 744 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: and it's you're on it. That's awesome. We were there. 745 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,800 Speaker 1: You were in a super Bowl commercial with him, and 746 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 1: I want to know A how true it was and 747 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: b how much fun it was making it. But first 748 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: let's replay it in San Diego. There was this grocery 749 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: store we all went to. Every time I went in there, 750 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: there was this big I mean he was huge. And 751 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: I asked one day. I was like, you ever played football? 752 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: And football? You know? Sir? I was like, come on, man, 753 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,399 Speaker 1: what do you what? I know? You had to play something. 754 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,880 Speaker 1: I played the hilball. What it's a member of the 755 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: Woodwind family. Oh kid, you should play football. It was 756 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 1: like really, And I was like, play football. So he 757 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: goes to the coach, play the play the whole ball. 758 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 1: He walked on him. What do you know? He ends 759 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,800 Speaker 1: up starting gets drafted in the second round. He was 760 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: backing grocery. I got drafted in the seventh round. Wow, 761 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: this is about my man Chester Pitts. He's my starting 762 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 1: up guard for the Houston Texas. And here's a guy 763 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 1: living a dream listened to me. Didn't even have the 764 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: dream until I to him to dream. And now we're 765 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 1: in a super Bowl. Kind of statute of limitations is 766 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: over because we're fifteen years on the line and I've 767 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: I've talked with Chester, I'm friendly with him, account him 768 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: as a friend. That's not a zillion percent true. What 769 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 1: went down? Is it? The gist of it is true. Okay, 770 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,280 Speaker 1: he did work at a grocery store, right he did. 771 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 1: I did walk me out to the car vent that 772 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: I had, Okay. He asked me how I guided him 773 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 1: what he should do. I did tell him he should 774 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: probably play some football. He was a big kid. All 775 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: of that's true. So the foundation of it is true. 776 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,800 Speaker 1: He told me he went to a math and science 777 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: high school. Right. Okay, the oboe part, that's that was 778 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 1: embellishing a little bit. I'm a story to I'm a writer, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. 779 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:59,360 Speaker 1: I knew what the story needed to make a good script, Okay, 780 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,319 Speaker 1: to make a good commercial. So I embellished a little 781 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 1: bit on the oboe part. But okay, for the most part, 782 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 1: the commercial was spot on. Outside of you know, I 783 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 1: took liberties with the instruments and and things like that. 784 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 1: You got me in trouble, not in trouble, but you 785 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 1: made me look like an idiot one time. Because often 786 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 1: once a year, twice a year over the last decade, 787 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: at the half Texans will have the University of Texas 788 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 1: Marching Band come at Texas Southern's Ocean of Seoul or 789 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,879 Speaker 1: you of h They'll come and play and one time, 790 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: I kind of casually on camera in the on the 791 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: video board. I was like, hey, Chester, you know a 792 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,720 Speaker 1: thing or two about the woodwind instruments in the OBO 793 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 1: And he's like, uh yeah, and then after he's like, 794 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,359 Speaker 1: none of that's true. Man, I'm sorry. I was just 795 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,760 Speaker 1: trying to make a good story. Man. I liked it. 796 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 1: It was. It was. It's one of the reasons I 797 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: feel like I know you better than I actually do. 798 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, that was. That was a good, good time 799 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:58,240 Speaker 1: if from slomp Chester Pitts. San Diego State University should 800 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 1: be very, very proud of those two gener them and 801 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,839 Speaker 1: they are beacons in this society of Houston wherever they 802 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 1: have been in their lives. And my Managrew Doherty is 803 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 1: as well, so as DP City. She caught up with 804 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 1: Mike Renner. So we appreciate them both for being on 805 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,280 Speaker 1: a show. Appreciate you guys for being here. We're getting 806 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 1: ever so close to the draft Monday. Nick Cassario on 807 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: with me on Texans All Access Exclusive one on one. 808 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: You definitely want to tune in on Monday. Have a 809 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,799 Speaker 1: great weekend, everybody, get your taxes done and we'll see 810 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 1: you on Monday. Right here, on Texans All Access and 811 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 1: go Texans