1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Saturday, November twenty ninth. Then, 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: just in time for the holiday season, President Trump has 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: put out his naughty List and who's on it. Nate Burleson, 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: Whoopee Goldberg, Joe Scarborough, the entire staff of CNN and 5 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 1: the BBC, you name it. And with that, welcome to 6 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: this episode of Amy and TJ Full Disclosure Robes. This 7 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: was not the episode we planned to do this morning, 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: but I when you got up, I said, babe, you 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: have got to see what the President put out, and 10 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: we switched things up. 11 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: That is a true story. I woke up and you said, babe. 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 3: Overnight, or at least late last night, the White House, 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 3: the President put up basically a I don't know, would 14 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 3: it be their version of a wanted poster like media 15 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 3: offenders list. It basically lists who, what and what the 16 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 3: crime was basically. 17 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,959 Speaker 1: And the criminals are all reporters and publications. I say 18 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: criminal in quotes there, but you get what I'm saying. Well, 19 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: I guess he probably has cues some of them of 20 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: being actual criminals. But this is just a continuation of 21 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: the ongoing assault that the President has had on the media, 22 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: on the fake news as he puts it in on 23 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: oftentimes the liberal media, but this roades it's messaging is 24 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: one thing. Responding is another thing. But this is this 25 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: seems targeted, It seems it seems a little I say, 26 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: it seems petty. But a lot of work put in this. 27 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 3: This is a oh I was thinking the same thing. 28 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 3: How much time, resources, how much effort, and how much 29 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 3: of our tax dollars went to create this website that 30 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 3: basically is exposing, to use. 31 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 2: Their word, what they don't like. 32 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 3: And who they think is against them, and who they 33 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 3: think is biased and misleading. But they're using government resources 34 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 3: to expose members of the media for coverage that they 35 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 3: don't agree with or like. 36 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: They say agree with theike what they say is wrong. 37 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: They this is their argument. They're saying that these people 38 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: are putting out false stories, false narratives, they are not 39 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: giving a proper context to things, and their bias is 40 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: coming through. Fine, that is not new from what we 41 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: have heard from this administration. But this is new at 42 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: least I don't remember another administration or any point anybody 43 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: putting out what is essentially a list folks, a list 44 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: of offenders in the media every single week that they 45 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: claim are telling stories that don't they say accurately convey 46 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: what the President has either said or has done. 47 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 3: Do you worry what the reaction might be? Obviously, folks 48 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 3: can read this and say duh. If you are more 49 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 3: right leaning, you're gonna look at this and say, yeah, 50 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 3: I know, I agree, and you're going to yes, be 51 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 3: validated by what you feel the coverage is. And then 52 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 3: you see what the White House is also saying what 53 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 3: is wrong about the coverage. But I worry about the 54 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 3: fringe and just this whole concept of words matter and 55 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 3: naming people and pointing the finger and saying you're doing 56 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 3: this to us. You're going against the United States, You're 57 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 3: going against our government. And I worry about having a 58 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,119 Speaker 3: list of names. It's not just outlets, but he goes after, 59 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 3: as you pointed out at the beginning, specific people, and 60 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 3: that worries me. With what we've seen in this country 61 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 3: in recent months. 62 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: Okay, so let's tell you what we've been seeing here, folks. 63 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: Is not a This isn't some secondary or website or 64 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: some new thing that was created. Whitehouse dot gov the 65 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: official White House web page that you go to. There's 66 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: a menu on the left and I drop down menu 67 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: and it'll show you things you can check on the news, 68 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: the administration. You has a whole bio on Donald Trump. 69 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: JD Van's Melania Trump. This is stuff we used to seeing, 70 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: the whole cabinet. Then the next section is media and 71 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: it has a gallery. It says live news, video library, 72 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: and media offenders. So this is on white House dot gov. 73 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: You don't have to try too hard, to go too 74 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: far to find this, and it comes up misleading, biased, exposed, 75 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: media offender of the week, and rogues. We had three, 76 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: I guess for the inaugural launching of this website, he 77 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: had three media offenders of the week, The. 78 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 3: Boston Globes exposed, CBS News exposed, the Independent exposed. 79 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: Okay, you made me think. Now you're making me see 80 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: this a little differently when you said you worry about 81 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: how the fringe right folks might see this in a 82 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: list of names, and they actually say on here that 83 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: the offense right, as if it was a crime. But 84 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: we're explaining here it's stamped all right, CBS News, Boston Club. 85 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: It has a stamp over it like you would see captured. Yes, 86 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: it's it's exposed. Wanted posters. 87 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 3: That's the feeling and the image I got when I 88 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 3: looked at the specific choices they made for the art 89 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 3: they used, how to depict which media outlets they feel 90 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 3: like have gone a against them and therefore against the 91 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 3: country with that type of rhetoric, and that yes, it 92 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 3: looks like these people are wanted and need to be captured. 93 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: So they lay out here. So they have the video 94 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: first of all, and I guess that was the story 95 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: of the week with the president, the six members of 96 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: Congress who put out a video telling members of the 97 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 1: military that they do have the right to refuse illegal orders. 98 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: The President, of course got upset about that. It's called 99 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: it seditious and said it was punishable by death. He 100 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: put this out in social media. So this is the 101 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: basis for our offenders of the week. Now it lists 102 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: and the reasons they say these are your offenders, but 103 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: it says outlet, the offense, the reporter, the truth, the claim, 104 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 1: the key points, and the category of what they have 105 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: done wrong. Road's time went into this. 106 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 3: This was I was my jaw dropped. You said, you 107 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 3: won't believe when you go onto this. You're like, I'm 108 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 3: not even going to explain it. You just need to 109 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 3: go on the website and see for yourself. And that 110 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 3: was one of my first thoughts. First I thought this 111 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 3: could be dangerous, and second I thought, my god, how 112 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 3: much time and effort and money went into putting this 113 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 3: list together. And by the way, this isn't a one off, 114 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 3: as it suggests media offender of the week. This is 115 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 3: now going to be an ongoing situation. In fact, they 116 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 3: have an offender Hall of Shame and at the bottom 117 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 3: of it they allow you to sign up so that 118 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 3: you can get alerts for basically, do you want the truth? 119 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 3: Each week it asks sign up for the offender alerts 120 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 3: delivered to your inbox. So now you sign up, you 121 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 3: put your email address, and you get alerts every time 122 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 3: there is an outlet or a reporter that they that 123 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 3: does something or write something, or disseminate something that the 124 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 3: White House doesn't agree with. 125 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: It's brilliant if just as a media strategy, brilliant. No, 126 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: I'm not taking any stand right wrong and who's got 127 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: the right messaging, But this dude is a media master. 128 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: Now I'm not. This is not a stance on any 129 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: policy or anything he has done, but as far as 130 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: media goes, he is fighting the media every sece. He's 131 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: putting them on notice. We are actually watching and we're 132 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: gonna call you out, and we are going to pump 133 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: this into the inboxes of all the people that support 134 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: us to reinforce once again, make sure they know not 135 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: to like you and don't believe anything you say, and 136 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: only believe us. It seems as if Robes we're in 137 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: a point in the country where someone has a monopoly 138 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: on the truth. It can only be this or that. 139 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: Either we have it or they have it. We're in 140 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: an argument now where CNN, CBA, We've worked all these places. 141 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: We know there's things that you don't get right. But 142 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: generally speaking, in newsrooms there are decent folks trying to 143 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: do a good job who are not in there having 144 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: a meeting, say, how are we gonna go after Trump today? 145 00:07:58,680 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: That's just not happening. 146 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 3: Is happening at least it wasn't happening when we were 147 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 3: in the media, and I doubt things have changed that 148 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 3: much in the last three years. But I will say 149 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 3: I do agree with you. I think most journalists want 150 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 3: to tell the truth. They want the public to know 151 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 3: the truth, and they want to let the public decide 152 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 3: given the information they disseminate without any leaning. Now do 153 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 3: we always get it right? Do certain reporters and certain 154 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 3: outlets perhaps have a leaning or a slant one hundred percent? 155 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 3: And look, I think we should take out certain cable 156 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 3: outlets that absolutely have agendas or are known to be 157 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 3: left leaning. 158 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: They a lot of They're clear. 159 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 3: Fox and SNBC are not correct hiding that correct, So 160 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 3: I think that should be pointed out. Yes, Fox on 161 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 3: one side, MSNBC on the other end. Look, I worked 162 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 3: at MSNBC, so yes, that is all. And they don't 163 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 3: deny that. Well maybe Fox News does. They say they're 164 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 3: fair and balanced. I think MSNBC knows exactly who they are, okay, 165 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 3: but I think they would say that they're the ones 166 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 3: who actually do tell the truth. 167 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: From seven to eleven o'clock at night. I'm saying, it's okay, 168 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: we get it. You're a conservative leaning thing. Fine, and 169 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: what you're saying you believe to be the truth or 170 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: these are your beliefs. That is fine. That was funny 171 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: ro And. 172 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 4: I know, I know I just want to fine in 173 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 4: defensive Fox News, But I do think that that that's 174 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 4: what is disturbing to me because I think everyone who 175 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 4: understands and we all get how democracies work. You need 176 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 4: a free press, and you need a press that is curious, 177 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 4: a press that presses further, that asks the follow ups, 178 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 4: that doesn't just take what the White House or whoever 179 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 4: is in charge gives you as the absolute truth. Corruption 180 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 4: exists on all levels, in the media and in the government, 181 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 4: and we have to be able to check one another. 182 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 4: So I get that they're saying, hey, we're checking you journalists. 183 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 4: Because you're checking us, We're gonna check you. I don't 184 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 4: think there's anything wrong with calling into questions this report, 185 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 4: because we do get things wrong, yep. 186 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 3: And there are such things as media bias and sometimes 187 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 3: folks don't soar things the way they should. We've been 188 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 3: the recipient of that. So I get that, you get that, 189 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 3: and I acknowledge that, But is this the way to 190 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 3: go about doing it? Does this potentially lead to something dangerous? 191 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 3: That's my biggest issue. And then again, the time and 192 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 3: resources spent to this. It's just you know, we're paying 193 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 3: for this as taxpayers. 194 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: None of this necessarily is new. The arguments being made 195 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 1: and all of these breakdowns or how this out they 196 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: did wrong and this reporter did wrong. Some of the 197 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: stuff's not new. We've heard the President call out and 198 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: complain about how the reporting is done. But yes, to 199 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: your point, to see a list, to see a list 200 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: of offenders every week kind of a wanted thing. It does, 201 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: and that is how it feels. I didn't take that 202 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: initially until you started saying then the exposed thing that 203 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: you just pointed out, it does. It does have that 204 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: kind of sense. So what you were just arguing there 205 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: about the truth is going to be the problem now. 206 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: So we're going to go through the offender of the 207 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: week here, and this is how they do it. One 208 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: section says outlet. So it lists CBS News, the Boston Globe, 209 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: and the Independent. Those are the ones who offended. Now 210 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: rope what their offense is. And this is immediately will 211 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: signal to everybody, Well, that's not necessarily the truth. It's 212 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: just your your feeling. You didn't like that they reported 213 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: what the fuck you said, exactly what it said. But 214 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: the offense is it's this hard to I don't know, 215 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: it's hard to argue that. 216 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: So here's the offense. 217 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 3: The media misrepresented President Trump's call for members of Congress 218 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 3: to be held accountable for inciting sedition by saying that 219 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:30,599 Speaker 3: he called for their execution. 220 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: Okay, they said he called for their execution. Did they 221 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: say that he called for. 222 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 3: Them No, he said that they were guilty of sedition. 223 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 3: And remember, sedition is punishable by death. 224 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: That's what he said, sedition. He posted this they are 225 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: they should be investigated for sedition and sedition is punishable 226 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 1: by death. Now, if you just report what the president said, 227 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: are you giving the wrong impression that that you're saying 228 00:11:58,080 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: the President wants them executed? 229 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 3: And I think a lot of times we just read 230 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 3: his truth social posts and say. 231 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 2: Take that for what it is. How you interpret it, 232 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 2: that's on you. 233 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 3: But he did specifically call for those six lawmakers to 234 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 3: be imprisoned. They should be in jailaid that. 235 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: So in this section of the Offenders of the Week, 236 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: he says the truth. This is how they have it 237 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: listed the truth. The Democrats and fake news media subversively 238 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: imply that President Trump had issued illegal orders to service members. 239 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: Every order President Trump has issued has been lawful. It 240 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: is dangerous for sitting members of Congress who incite in 241 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: subordination in the United States military, and President Trump called 242 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: for them to be held accountable. He says that's what 243 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: the truth is. He does not mention in there at 244 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: all that the president actually said that it is seditious 245 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: and that sedition is punishable by death. He said it, 246 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 1: I didn't. If he would have just said it was seditious, 247 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have immediately jumped to I think that one's 248 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: punishable death. 249 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 3: And he also reposted, let's just remind everyone some conservative 250 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 3: commentors who were talking about nooses and hanging folks, and 251 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 3: he reposted them so to act as if it was 252 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 3: some big leap or some big horrific offense that the 253 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 3: media jumped to the conclusion he breadcrumbed that and left 254 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 3: a trail heading straight to a noose. 255 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 2: I mean, that is just. 256 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 3: And he also, by the way, sorry, specifically lists the 257 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 3: names the reporters within the outlets. This is next to 258 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 3: the offense the truth, and he lists the reporter Alisa Vega, 259 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 3: and then there's a link and you actually can click 260 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 3: on her name. It's just Andrew Feinberg, Eric Garcia, Nancy Cordes. 261 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 3: I know Nancy Cordes. You know, we all are in 262 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 3: this community. And just to see these names singled out, 263 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 3: that is what's concerning to me. 264 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: Do you know what's going to happen. You're going to 265 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: have some reporters out there trying to make the list. 266 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 1: Trump has made stars of reporters. He has gotten people promotions. 267 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: I say he has gotten because when people take the 268 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: moment to say, let me go after this guy, let 269 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: me get him to talk about me, let him point 270 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 1: me out, I will be a star. I will get 271 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: an anchor job, I will get more followers. Oh. Absolutely, 272 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: you got some working every day trying to make this list. 273 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 3: I know you're right, but I would be the opposite. 274 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 3: I would be feeling like I needed to get extra security. 275 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 3: I would be nervous if my name was on that list. 276 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: You would feel absolutely targeted. Now down at the bottom, 277 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: where you talked about a Fender hall of shame? What 278 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: got me here? It says a Fender hall of shame. 279 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: It's essentially, I guess a database of all the past offenders. 280 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: But it has its four sections as to claim, the publication, 281 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: the reporter, and the category. The categories are the ones 282 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: that kind of were intriguing to me. One of the 283 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: categories was woke. You can classify some of the offenses 284 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: under just being woke. 285 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 3: Wow, because if you are thinking about someone other than 286 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 3: the community you live in. And if you're regarding how 287 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 3: someone else feels versus how you feel, you're too woke 288 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 3: and therefore you should be on the leaderboard. 289 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: All right, But I thought this was a while that 290 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: on Black Friday, this thing come out when we were 291 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: starting to think about the Christmas holiday season, and he 292 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: has literally a naughty list. But when we come back, 293 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: I mentioned some of those on the naughty list, including 294 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: Joe Scarborough, you know, the whole CNN BBC staff, Nate 295 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: Burlson over at CBS, and also mentioned Whoopy Goldberg. What 296 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: in the world did Whoopby Goldberg do to get on 297 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: the list? Stay here, all right, folks, We continue now 298 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: with the President's naughty list of reporters. This was fascinating. 299 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: It did launch on Friday, the folks over at the 300 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: White House. There is on the White House Web, theofficial 301 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: white House dot gov page, there was a section for 302 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: media Offender of the Week. It was just launched yesterday 303 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: and it really is a collection I guess, of the 304 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: people the president and the organizations the President has taken 305 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: an issue with any of their reporting, yes. 306 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 3: And he so he has the media Offenders of the 307 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 3: Week he actually picked three of them this week. But 308 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 3: if you go down to the offender Hall of Shame, 309 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 3: he has already won two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. 310 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: And that's just on like there are how many pages. 311 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 2: I don't there was so much work. 312 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 3: Put into this, but he has gone through all of 313 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 3: these stories. He didn't like all of the reporters who 314 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 3: were attached to the stories, and then put them in 315 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 3: a category, as you mentioned, But this is tremendous and 316 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 3: Whoopy Goldberg does. 317 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 2: Stand down among them. 318 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 3: She was upset that she made up a song to 319 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 3: slam Trump for building the White House ballroom. So it 320 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 3: says publication ABC News reporter Whoopy Goldberg. 321 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 2: Category left wing Lunacy. 322 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: That's one of my favorites. 323 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 2: That's one of the categories. 324 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: I like that one. 325 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 3: In all of these, you can click on and the 326 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 3: presumption is in the days and weeks to come, when 327 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 3: you click on left wing lunacy, you'll have a list 328 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 3: of offenders and defenses. 329 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: The other one listed under left wing lunacy. The only 330 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: other person that category is an Anabara over at the View. 331 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: I don't think he likes the show. 332 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 2: No, I don't think he does either, but you have. 333 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 3: We listed all the categories here because this is interesting. 334 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: I just say I woke. 335 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 3: Okay, there's woke, there's misrepresentation, there's a mission of context, bias, malpractice. Uh, 336 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 3: there's another, Okay, I'm looking lie. There's just one that 337 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 3: just says lie. There's one that says false claim. There's 338 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 3: just bias. 339 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: Yes. 340 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 3: So those are all the different categories. And sometimes when 341 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 3: you have a story that he doesn't like, he'll put 342 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 3: you in multiple categories. So you can click on the 343 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 3: different categories and just see all the different stories that 344 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 3: fall into this. 345 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: And his list of publications. I guess this is a 346 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: who's who. The ones that stand out at least people 347 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: have been talking about with CBS News, Fox News on 348 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: this list, those are at least Fox News of publication 349 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: that's very friendly to him, and then CBS News, of course, 350 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: is going a direction that maybe he likes. But he 351 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: did call out a couple of reporters, but no Fox 352 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: News and and CBS News don't appear a lot, frankly 353 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: on this list. He also has a list of repeat offenders, 354 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: and there's a little graphic the leader board. What is 355 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: that about? 356 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 3: So the leader board I was looking at that it 357 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 3: looks like it's a race to who's the worst, and 358 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 3: the Washington Post right now is first, it says, MSNBC 359 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 3: made it second, CBS News was third, CNN, New York Times, Political, 360 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 3: Wall Street Journal. Maybe that's just weekly, but yeah, it's 361 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 3: almost like you're watching a race to the finish line, 362 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 3: and he is the Washington Post at number one right now. 363 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, consider it just plays over and over. Really, folks, 364 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: it's a little graphic that shows all of the kind 365 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: of graphics of each of these publications, and they're racing 366 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: across the race to the bottom or. 367 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 3: A race to the bottom. And then you have the 368 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 3: repeat offenders that he has them in circles, and the 369 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 3: bigger the circle, the worse you are. So right now again, 370 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 3: the Washington Post is number one. I'm curious do you believe, 371 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 3: because there have already been suggestions that because of all 372 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 3: of the lawsuits that he has been successful where he 373 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 3: sues any publication who he thinks did not give him 374 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 3: an accurate or a fair shake. 375 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: It has been coming out on top. 376 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 2: Like wildly on top. 377 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 3: Do you think putting up this sort of web page 378 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 3: that folks are now going to subscribe to and read 379 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 3: and you're going to be called out with links to 380 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 3: your names, your reporters you're reporting. Do you think this 381 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 3: is going to change the way journalists do their jobs. 382 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: I think it already asked before this. I can't imagine 383 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: being in a root news room. People are running scared. 384 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: You're scared. You're so careful in what you say and 385 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: how you say it about this guy because it could 386 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: get you sued. I bet there are whole departments now 387 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 1: and people dedicated just to reviewing Trump coverage. 388 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 3: I totally agree with you, because I know this, and 389 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 3: you know this, and every single journalist knows this. 390 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 2: The biggest single obstacle to getting. 391 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 3: A story on the air, even before Trump, before any 392 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 3: of this, was to get through the process of having 393 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 3: it legally reviewed so that the newsroom and the network 394 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 3: massively reduces their chances of getting sued. 395 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 2: And it has been a frustrating. It's been a frustrating 396 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 2: obstacle course to go through. Throughout the three. 397 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 3: Decades I've been reporting, I had stories that I pushed 398 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 3: to get on there that couldn't, that were valuable and 399 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 3: good because they were too afraid of getting sued. I 400 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 3: can't even imagine what isn't being told and how. 401 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 2: Carefully things are being reported. 402 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 3: Look, it's a good thing to make sure your sources 403 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 3: are checked and rechecked and validated and resourced. I applaud 404 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 3: that we shouldn't be putting out something we aren't absolutely 405 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 3: certain of. 406 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 1: I agree with that, But it's been the case though. 407 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 1: That hasn't changed. We just got somebody with the biggest 408 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: microphone on planet Earth, who happens to have maybe one 409 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: of the biggest personalities that we've ever seen, in the 410 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: White House, who doesn't give a damn, who will go 411 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: forward and do what he was. Yes, we got a 412 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: different do I don't think we haven't all of a 413 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: sudden started the industry, I mean started reporting poorly because 414 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: he's in the White House. No, we just got a 415 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: guy who wants to push back and he's not afraid 416 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 1: to do so in these bullying manners sometimes so, Yes, 417 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: that makes you change your change your stance, change how 418 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 1: you report, be a little careful tiptoe. Yes, it will 419 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 1: cause you to not go after and do your job 420 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: as aggressively as you would have. Maybe that's a good thing. 421 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: Maybe it call to you to check a third and 422 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: a fourth and a fifth and a sixth source before 423 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: you put that out there. Maybe it does push folks 424 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: to do a better job and be more accurate in 425 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: their reporting, or maybe it just. 426 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 3: Scares or maybe yes, they aren't going to be as 427 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 3: willing to go after or to follow sources down a 428 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 3: path that they think could put them in in the 429 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 3: line of fire. 430 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 2: With the president of the United States. 431 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: You know what, I can't remember it. I'm only going 432 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: to mention this. I don't remember the story and it's 433 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: not connected to this one. But it was a guy. 434 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: It was I think it was a state lawmaker who 435 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 1: he was asked about going against Trump and why he 436 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't do some simple thing. I'm sorry, I don't have 437 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: the accurate description of the story, but it was this 438 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,959 Speaker 1: ropes he had. This was his response, I'd rather not 439 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: have my house fire bombed exactly. So that mindset is 440 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: not just a matter of this president's going to come 441 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: after me. There might be somebody crazy enough to execute 442 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: his orders, at least in their mind of what they're hearing. 443 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: That's scary, and this is not helping to your original point. 444 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: I first saw it, and I would I'll admit, I'm like, wow, 445 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: this is crazy. Almost you hold him to a different standard. 446 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: Oh it's chopped, done this thing again. But you you're right, 447 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: this stuff is dangerous and the way it looks doesn't 448 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: add It doesn't do what we need to be doing, 449 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: which is bring the temperature down. 450 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 3: Yes, and again, if my name, if your name was 451 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 3: on this list, I would I would operate differently. I 452 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 3: would actually consider security. I would actually I would be 453 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 3: I would be worried and concerned. That's just I mean, 454 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 3: maybe that's me jumping, maybe I'm taking it too far, 455 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 3: but we've just seen enough. We've seen enough people take 456 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 3: the smallest of hints and or take him at his 457 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 3: actual word and think somehow that they're being personally called 458 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 3: to action. 459 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 2: That makes me nervous. 460 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: Well, folks, it's there for you to see. Just go 461 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: to White House dot gov. It will take you seven 462 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: seconds to get to it. The media offender of the week. 463 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 1: And with that, folks, we always appreciate you spending some 464 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 1: time here with us. Rose. We had to work to 465 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: stay off this list. 466 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would like to. 467 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 3: I was actually just thinking, Yes, I fully agree, and 468 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 3: I don't think that we have. We've been very careful 469 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 3: to try and not be political. I will say things 470 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 3: about anything personally, or a choice or words. Those are 471 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 3: all things that it doesn't matter what side of the 472 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 3: alley on. You can still agree with someone's policies and 473 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 3: not like how they are speaking of them or talking 474 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 3: about other people in regards to them. But in terms 475 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 3: of politics, I think we've tried really hard to stay 476 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 3: in the middle of the road when it comes to 477 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 3: policy or party affiliation. You can still call people out 478 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 3: for scary or bad behavior regardless of what you think 479 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 3: about their politics. 480 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: Yes, we don't do politics. We don't endorse candidates other 481 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: than Sean Duffy for the next president of the United States. 482 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: All right with that, we always appreciate you listening. We 483 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 1: will talk beyond