WEBVTT - Hangin' with the Boys: We Need Structure! 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:06.960 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:19.040 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club flowing out of the backfield, 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:24.360 exploding down the sidelines. This He's Hanging with the Boys, 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:28.720 presented by Wing Stuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now, 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:34.640 your hosts, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:47.880 What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? Does his 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:52.559 Nate new forget shout forget Kurt, forget Jesse. I'm the 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:54.680 one doing all the talk and we're going straight to 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:58.280 the phone. But do you have Kurt? I mean, what 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:00.800 did you have? Chris? Let's keep going. But now I 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:03.240 ain't doing no touch from getting touch. I'm talking about 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:06.040 what nyin't gonna do today. You know that's not like yesterday. 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:09.200 But y'all go ahead on, go ahead, on with y'all. Man, 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:14.840 I'm glad somebody's bron pump pump man move We look 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:18.000 at him. Man, I ain't wellam talking about it? Man, 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:20.760 Brandon Graham ain't playing this week, right, Man, ain't on 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:24.320 that yet? Nate us tomorrow there yet call us eight 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:29.120 eight eight eight five five two. You're looking we moved on. 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:32.640 You don't have you, Kurt, have you moved on? Toastito's 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:37.760 championship applies outside? So you're hanging on seventy nine degree 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:41.640 it feels like eighty five low. Tonight is going to 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:46.280 be a brisk fifty four degrees and now welcome to 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:50.320 the show. Jesse Holly, Kurt Daniels, Nate Knew, Shannon grows 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:54.720 sco I'm not hanging on Nate tell phone calls. No, 0:01:55.160 --> 0:02:04.880 I'm not. We have instructure. Okay, Monday we review the game. Okay, Tuesday, 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:08.160 we take calls. The fans review Wednesday. We know they 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:11.119 don't have to review. They could call and say, hey, Jesse, 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:15.240 what's your favorite sandwich? Kurt? Why is your hair getting 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:17.679 so long? Yeah? I gotta get cut like they could 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:19.520 do that. It doesn't have to review the game. They 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:22.800 just typically go. Then. Don't think I ain't letting this slide. 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:26.720 Jesse Holly wearing a shirt of himself today. Did y'all 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:30.320 notice that? No, Jesse Holly is wearing a shirt. This 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:32.400 is not all brand that has himself. It's not all 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:35.160 brand for me. I love the show, I mean I 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:37.760 love the shirt is right on what does say? It's 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:40.840 Tony Romo talking to a young Jesse Holly telling him. 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:42.959 What is he telling you right there? I have no idea. 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:46.919 I didn't listen at all. Run down the field, don't 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:51.240 get called, don't get caught. It's a beautiful shirt. The design, 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:54.440 it's just a little egotistical, but I like it. It 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:57.480 is one brand. I love it. I'm gonna be me all. 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.760 I don't understand it. You know what. This dude went 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:08.320 from structure to wait then and then Wednesday we do 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:11.320 office defense. Thursday we do office defensive. Friday we take 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:14.080 calls eight eight eight eight five two nine. Jesse, do 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:17.600 you think I know your answer? But I may I 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:21.400 may disagree with you, Like if you made it like 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:23.840 big time as a player, like if you were a 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:27.840 number one somewhere, would you've had ego problems you think 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:29.560 you'd let it get to you or would you still 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:32.360 be the same. No, because you guys like you guys, 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:34.680 you're you're like the most arrogant humble person. I know 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:37.080 that's what I'm saying, like American humble person like you 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:40.400 guys know, I'm super low key, I'm super humble, like 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:43.040 like I'm I'm I'm not I'm not that dude like 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:46.040 I am one hundred percent confident in myself. Yo. Yeah, 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:47.840 make no mistake about that. And there's a very thin 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:50.880 line between being confident and cocky, right, and I flirt 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:53.400 with it. You are on both sides, flirt with it daily. 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:56.520 But you know what I'm saying, They I flirt with 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:59.600 the daily. But no, No, if I was like I 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:03.240 would be I mean, I would be super cool man, 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:07.160 you'd be the same guy. Yeah, Nay. Were you confident 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:11.400 when you playing? When you came up? No? No, what 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:13.160 are you doing? What is this? I'm just trying to 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:17.440 see before we start taking coach from the fans? Wait on, 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:20.320 Chris Man, Hey, Chris, do we have any what? You 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:26.960 give him the phone number, but can't he can't even 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:29.200 get a call on the air for he just texting 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:31.679 me that. But let me actually question the phone lines 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:34.040 are lit right now. Let me just say, if you 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:39.760 were Rich Dalrymple in that position, would you act like 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:43.839 Rich Dalry? No, I'm playing Rich, I'm playing. You know 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:46.120 you're my guy, please you you know, but you know 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:47.719 if you were in that, you know, you know, I 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:52.040 think that's a drop I need right there? Would you 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:55.880 that one? Rich? Fixed? You know? I think I would 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:58.320 like to say. I think everybody would like to say 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:02.480 I would be me, but we you when things change, 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:04.600 because when you have people coming at you twenty four 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:08.520 seven and they're twenty years old or a million dollars, yeah, 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.840 like you like I think one percent know if it 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:13.600 was now, I would be the same person. Wouldn't matter 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:15.800 if I won the lottery, if I was uber famous 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:17.599 for something like, I would be the same person. But 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:21.279 you asked me that fifteen twenty years ago. I would 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:23.479 like to think I'd be the same person. But I 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:25.800 know I've changed a little bit since I moved to Dallas. 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:29.000 Like you know, you have to adapt to the situation 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:30.919 you're in. I don't. I wouldn't be a jerk like 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:35.240 I wouldn't be. We're waiting on Chris. They stop. I 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:41.440 got a call already, waiting on y'alla on the sounder. Okay, 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:46.120 well who got we got? We got our guy, Anthony, Anthony, 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:56.279 what's up? What's up? Guys? This is not a ninety 0:05:56.320 --> 0:06:00.920 seconds to do some cowboy commentary. How y'all doing, my dude? 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:06.360 That cowboys went the so Far Stadium without the Marcus Lawrence, 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:11.520 without Randy Gregory Man, without never Galla Moore, without Donovan Wilson, 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:15.560 without Michael Galla, without liout calling, and they did what 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:17.960 happened they told you last week they needed to do. 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:21.600 They ran the damn ball with Zek and Tony poll 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:25.839 Dak only threw the ball twenty seven times, not getting 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:29.760 Anthony tell you? Didn't Anthony tell you that? Sorry, field 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:34.280 goal kicker earned his money finally, and the Cowboys gotta win. 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:38.960 They gotta win. So I'm gonna call you next week. 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:50.920 Good jail, no man out man, Thanks for calling. That's 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:54.679 a great thought. It was a trah that maybe my dude. 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:57.920 That's that's it, man, that's it. That's as quick as 0:06:57.960 --> 0:06:59.640 he's ever gotten off the phone. He was in and out. 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:01.480 Yeah he yeah, I think you wrote that down. Make 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:05.120 sure next time we asked, did he write that Anthony 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:08.800 is the Jesse Holly of callers? How about my dude 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:11.040 from up he like he likes to tell us how 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:13.040 right he is every week. If you listen to me 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:14.880 last week, this is what I told you, this is 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:21.040 what happened. Gee's no, I know the guy with the 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:23.200 brother in law who try to hook him up out 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:27.280 here in the Yeah yeah yeah oge. But yeah, but 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:29.000 you know why I want to tell you every time 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:33.119 that I'm right. Why because when I'm wrong, everybody I'm wrong, 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:36.680 but people let me know by the like by the thousands. 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:38.880 It's a double as sword. They let you know because 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:41.080 you let them know when you're right, So you can't 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:43.880 stop right because I mean, that's what's fun, that's what 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:45.800 makes that's why I need to make seventeen million dollars 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:49.560 like Tony Romo does. Why what what do you mean? Why? 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:52.040 Why would you you put yourself on the level of 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:54.920 Tony Romo. I'm just saying he can guess and be wrong, 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:58.120 and guess and be right. So let me guess and right. 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:01.920 Seventeen million. Who we got Chris, we got Reginald and 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:10.240 Conway Arkansas, Reggie, You and he can voice. It is 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:17.120 a long time, A long time has been a while. 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:24.160 I'm back. What's going on? What you got for I have? 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:28.280 I want to talk about your boy, Jim Fossil Special teams, 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:34.120 This special team savannt Uh. It seems to be uh 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:36.880 taking the game into his own hands. I just don't 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:39.280 like the decisions that he's making. It seems to me 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:43.720 that he's not really taken into account the game situation. 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:45.480 It just seems like he should have kind of doing 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:49.240 his own thing, and uh, it really seems like he's 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:56.000 being more reckless than aggressive. What do you guys think? Good? Yeah, 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:57.760 you don't remember Reginald is the first time I've ever 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:01.559 heard him called. Now he's called before, he's called Yeah, 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:04.679 great call Ray. Good to hear your voice, man, Yeah, 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:07.400 he used to call all the time you've been on 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:09.920 the show. When he's called, No, I don't that voice 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:12.720 made you touched my side? Like, you know what I'm saying. 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:15.320 I remember somebody touched my inside. You know what I'm saying. 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:18.200 That voice did it to me? What do y'all think? 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:20.439 What do you think about? It? Was funny? What was 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:25.319 this reason for doing it? Was cowboys fans aren't gonna 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:27.640 play it safe types or something. So he was giving 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:30.480 them what they want, doing it for the fans, for 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:34.240 the fans. This is when you have no consequences like 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:39.040 he plays like he has like who's gonna say something 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:42.520 to me? And he played like we go back to 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:44.280 last year when he was doing some things where you 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:45.920 did a fake punt and you're on your own twenty 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:49.079 nine yard it's just like there's no consequences for him. 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:51.079 He does what he wants, when he wants, how he wants, 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:53.160 and this is the first time I've ever seen anybody 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:56.839 before in my life, like because anything like that in 0:09:56.880 --> 0:10:01.320 those critical moments normal you gotta kind of get this 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:05.920 thing okayed by the head coach. Right you're going a 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:07.480 headset and say, hey, man, we're thinking about going for 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:09.920 a pump block right here, what do you think And 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:12.120 the head coach kind of goes, nah, not right here, 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:15.240 kick it, you know, or just hey, play safe for 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:17.600 hey no, no, no, no no fake right now. But this 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:19.400 guy just seems like he just flied by the seat 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:21.080 of his pants and does what he wants, when he wants, 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:24.160 how he wants, whatever he wants. Surely he's letting McCarthy 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:30.000 know right If he is, then it's making look making 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:33.720 him look bad because a lot of times you're here, coach, 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:37.839 say right here, I felt this the game was going. 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:40.600 They never give us an explanation. Up right here, I 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:43.120 saw this and whoa they sat up. We worked on 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:46.080 this all week. You you would hear something, you know, 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:51.200 and uh, we never hear why. And you talk about 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:55.800 a level of arrogance like even his response like I 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:58.920 get it, but you can really only can do that 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:01.840 when you like been on top of your game. Now 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:03.839 you can give an arroget response, or you can kind 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:08.640 of give a snarky response when you've been successful a lot, 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:11.160 like if Bill Belichick does that, or Tom Brady says that, 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:13.880 or someone of that you know that caliber says that. 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:16.160 You go, Okay, we get the joke, we understand it, 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:19.000 but dude, you can't. You can't come off as being 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:22.000 snarky and being a little bit condescending when you've been 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:26.120 bad at what you do, like you you your kicker 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:28.680 cost is the game last week? Yeah week two weeks ago. 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.120 Yeah he wanted on Sunday, But we can go back 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:32.839 to what things would happened to last year, like you 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:35.760 haven't been good overall as a coach, and when you 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:38.439 come off like that, like it kind of almost gives 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:41.560 the indication of again, I do what I want, say 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:43.600 what I want however, I want, when I want where 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:47.000 I want, And as the young people say, who gonna 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:51.400 check me? Boot? Nobody gonna check him? Well. Jerry said 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:54.240 on the fan this morning that when he said bad 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:57.520 plays in the kicking game are like turnovers, so maybe 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:02.760 they act like maybe it's been going on year. It's 0:12:02.800 --> 0:12:05.080 been going on, you know, starting two years now. It's 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:11.199 like you gotta side, you can't. We look at we 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:16.400 look at the defense. They're young, they're inexperienced as a whole. 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:20.040 We look at the offense. You know they're missing a player, 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:22.800 but they study trying to make things happen. And all 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:26.000 of a sudden, you got two of the three phases 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:28.360 rolling that. All of a sudden you get somebody in 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:31.520 the special teams one player. Just turn your whole game 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:35.679 around with something you just played by the numbers, say hey, 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:38.360 you know what, let's plunt here. Oh hey, let's let's 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:41.599 cover here. Getting to give them minim minimum yards in 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:45.560 return and we set But you want to do something special, 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:48.320 like like you're gonna you know, like just say you're 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:50.320 trying to decide the game. We don't need you to 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:53.480 decide the game. Don't hurt us, expecially on the road, 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:57.439 with momentums so hard the game and and and that's 0:12:57.480 --> 0:12:59.400 I'm with you. I'm like, what is it? What's going 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:02.240 on here? Will owned the road? You're not home. When 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:04.600 you're home, you come from where you feel good. You 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:07.480 can snatch momentum any time because of the crowd. But 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:10.440 on the road Nade, they don't do that. Do the 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:13.200 players like the aggressiveness or they're kind of sitting back 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:16.680 on what the hecks going on? After it's over, they'd 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:21.120 be like wow, right, because you always want to like 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:25.160 a players always. John Harball looked at Lamar Jackson said, hey, 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:26.840 you want to go for it? It wasn't a chance 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:31.280 in hell, Lamar Jackson, Right, He's not no players ever 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:33.120 gonna say that. Yeah, when the coach says, hey, we're 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.120 a little pump block here, I'm like, yeah, because I 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:37.679 might get the block. So guys are always going to 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:41.440 go for the aggressive move. But again, it's your job 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:43.640 as a coach, like it is as a parent, Like 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:45.400 your kid wants to go one hundred miles and hold 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:48.480 on a sun like speed limited sixty. You're not gonna 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:50.440 kill all of us out here. So sometimes as a 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:52.120 coach you gotta be the parent of that thing and say, 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:53.840 I know you guys want to go for the pump block, 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:56.760 but how about we go you know. And on top 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:58.920 of that, right here the naval call, you say, man, 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:01.480 your kid was running fifteen miles an hour through through 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:04.800 the neighborhood. Now you don't already warned you, and so 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:06.720 now you get a call from the neighbor. So for 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:09.559 the next month you don't have a ride. 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DCC Making the Team, 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:57.160 the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders Making the Team is back for 0:16:57.200 --> 0:17:02.080 another exciting, exciting season and don't miss new episodes every Friday, 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:05.840 nine eight Central on CMT. There we go. I know 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:08.320 a young girl back in the day, way back in 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:10.439 the day, way way back in the day to how 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:15.400 to pay white boots. Let me just tell you, huge 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:18.640 DC fan, DCC fan, Oh yeah, yeah, I'm a huge 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:22.639 DCC fan. I don't even know what you just said, 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:27.359 but he went so well with it, and we probably 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:33.560 don't know that. I don't know. He went Yeah, Memory Lane, 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:36.280 you got that one dog what it meant. Let's talk 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:38.639 off air about that, because I kind of dedication and 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:41.919 commitment of what it takes to become a DCC. I 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:43.399 just related with it. You know what I'm saying that 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:46.760 that that man, that battle to go through. You know 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:49.840 how big people come out from it's ridiculous. It's crazy. 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:54.320 And their training campus for those white bombs. Yep, big fan, 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:57.360 big fan, big fan of the white boots. Chriss. Who 0:17:57.400 --> 0:17:59.639 we got? We got Tim. He's on the phone from 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:02.520 Lexa in Texas. I didn't even know that it was 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:07.080 a place. Hey, guys, how are y'all? Thanks for letting 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:11.080 me on today. Where's Lexington, Texas. We're right in the 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:14.520 middle of Austin in College Station. If you put a 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:16.840 dot route between those two towns, that's where we're at. 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:19.280 We're a little bit small place, but we love our 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:23.280 high school football years. If you're between Austin and College Station, 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:26.600 you must like the party. Well I did in my 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:32.240 younger days. Eat and watch football fair enough, US two, 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:34.760 US two? What's going on? Man? What's on your mind? 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:38.800 A quick thing? It was nice. It was nice watching 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:40.840 the game where we you know where we kind of 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:44.840 like to coin Nate's term muddy. It was nice to 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:47.520 actually win one of those games finally and not be 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:49.560 on the losing end, which is where it's been in 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:52.000 the past. But one of the things I keep hearing 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:54.960 coming out of it is I feel like the casual 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:59.119 fan keeps talking about, you know, uh, Pollard, Pollard, you 0:18:59.160 --> 0:19:03.159 know Pollards, that dynamic one Pollard this. I kind of 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:06.160 look at that and say, yes, he's in his current role. 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:08.439 Yes he's dynamic as the change of pace. You know, 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:10.760 he's not the lead, the featured guy, the guy that's 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:14.600 getting studied and game planned as against as much. And 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:16.960 I can't help but think back, and I want your 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:21.720 guy's opinions on this, back to when Marian was the 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:25.280 compliment to Julius. You know, I felt like Marion at 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:28.880 his height, was the most dynamic when he came in 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:32.879 and just coming Rock did his saying, played physical, and 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:36.119 then while Julius was there sharing the load, I felt 0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:38.479 like after Julius moved on and we went to maryon, 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:40.880 he was still a great back force, but I never 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:44.600 felt like he had, you know, never felt quite the same. 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:47.200 So and I fear that that's what a lot of 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:50.479 the casual fan is missing when it comes to Pollard 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:52.159 and Zeke, and I would really love to hear the 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:56.280 guy's opinions on that and how they see that. Great question. 0:19:56.400 --> 0:20:00.080 By the way, Superman, by the way, the callers are 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:04.040 finally they're being nice, they're playing by the rules. They're 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:08.120 not getting Christ the structure. You guys are doing it right. 0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:10.399 You're getting in, You're asking the question. You're getting now. 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:12.399 Chris isn't having to be a jerk and hang up 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:15.359 on anybody, so good jerk for some of you asked 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:19.359 them to do this. Wow, what do you think about 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:23.720 Tim's question? I love Tim's question. I think Tim is uh, 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:27.040 he's a running back group off. I don't I want 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:29.680 him to look at not Julius Jones and Mary and 0:20:29.720 --> 0:20:34.320 BARBERA look at Felix Jones and Mary and Barbara. That 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:37.639 is the kind of comparison that that I would look at. 0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:40.880 And I just so happened to be here for that. 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:46.080 Julius Jones, Felix Jones, I mean Felix Jones marrying Barber 0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:51.280 combination and maryon was your between the tackles. You're gritty, 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:54.719 you're you know, you're mucky or muddy, hard nose yards 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:57.680 you pound the defense, and then you had this lightning cat, 0:20:57.760 --> 0:21:01.080 quick guy like Felix Zones. And then it came to 0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:03.520 a point where someone in the front office thought that, 0:21:03.600 --> 0:21:05.600 you know what, hey, let's just make Felix Jones out 0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:07.320 every down back and we let they let go of 0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:10.119 Marian Barber. They bulked up Felix Jones and it didn't 0:21:10.160 --> 0:21:14.640 work out. It crushed, It crushed Felix. Yeah. When when 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:18.200 I first saw that, I say, why did he gain all? Why? 0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:22.119 That's don't get but anyway, go ahead, We're on a 0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:25.800 different pace. Go ahead, No, and so wow. And if 0:21:25.840 --> 0:21:28.360 you look at where the NFL is going now, almost 0:21:28.400 --> 0:21:30.720 every team in the NFL has gone to that two 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:36.479 running back system. And what it does is it gives 0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:41.399 defenses a headache because you have to worry. You have 0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:44.440 to worry about okay, you know, oh, man, I gotta 0:21:44.480 --> 0:21:47.040 tackle number twenty one again godly And then at the 0:21:47.080 --> 0:21:49.080 twenty one you tied the tackling him. Then you know 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:51.040 you're a little bit tender. And then it comes to 0:21:51.080 --> 0:21:53.320 speed and it gets up on you so quick that 0:21:53.359 --> 0:21:55.520 you ain't ready to react to it, and it throws 0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:58.000 you off a little bit because you're having to kind 0:21:58.040 --> 0:22:00.399 of switch your molds back and forth, back and fourth 0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:02.320 of how I got to handle this, and they give 0:22:02.320 --> 0:22:07.000 you different looks. So this is a great dynamic, and 0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:10.400 this is a balanced dynamic. And with the extra game 0:22:10.440 --> 0:22:12.560 in the season, I think this is something that they 0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:15.800 can use to their advantage because if we're being honest, 0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:20.479 Zeke is the better overall running back overall with everything 0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:23.399 that he does, the gritty yards, the blocking, he's a 0:22:23.440 --> 0:22:27.160 pass catcher, the he could do it all. Tony Pollard 0:22:27.240 --> 0:22:30.480 gives us the juice that we don't quite get anymore 0:22:30.480 --> 0:22:33.560 with Zeke. You can see it. It's visible. When Tony 0:22:33.560 --> 0:22:36.160 Poller gets the ball, it's more of a boom. He's 0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:39.440 gone now, you know. Zeke is more of a methodical, 0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:41.640 try to find it, put his show down and get 0:22:41.640 --> 0:22:44.679 the tough yards. When Tony Pollard has to go to 0:22:44.720 --> 0:22:47.080 a place where he has to be in every down back, 0:22:47.600 --> 0:22:49.600 he just ain't built for that. He ain't built to 0:22:49.640 --> 0:22:52.160 carry the ball twenty five times a game, to pick 0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:54.720