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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club flowing out of the backfield,
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Speaker 1: your hosts, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross.
Speaker 1: What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? Does his
Speaker 1: Nate new forget shout forget Kurt, forget Jesse. I'm the
Speaker 1: one doing all the talk and we're going straight to
Speaker 1: the phone. But do you have Kurt? I mean, what
Speaker 1: did you have? Chris? Let's keep going. But now I
Speaker 1: ain't doing no touch from getting touch. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: what nyin't gonna do today. You know that's not like yesterday.
Speaker 1: But y'all go ahead on, go ahead, on with y'all. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm glad somebody's bron pump pump man move We look
Speaker 1: at him. Man, I ain't wellam talking about it? Man,
Speaker 1: Brandon Graham ain't playing this week, right, Man, ain't on
Speaker 1: that yet? Nate us tomorrow there yet call us eight
Speaker 1: eight eight eight five five two. You're looking we moved on.
Speaker 1: You don't have you, Kurt, have you moved on? Toastito's
Speaker 1: championship applies outside? So you're hanging on seventy nine degree
Speaker 1: it feels like eighty five low. Tonight is going to
Speaker 1: be a brisk fifty four degrees and now welcome to
Speaker 1: the show. Jesse Holly, Kurt Daniels, Nate Knew, Shannon grows
Speaker 1: sco I'm not hanging on Nate tell phone calls. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not. We have instructure. Okay, Monday we review the game. Okay, Tuesday,
Speaker 1: we take calls. The fans review Wednesday. We know they
Speaker 1: don't have to review. They could call and say, hey, Jesse,
Speaker 1: what's your favorite sandwich? Kurt? Why is your hair getting
Speaker 1: so long? Yeah? I gotta get cut like they could
Speaker 1: do that. It doesn't have to review the game. They
Speaker 1: just typically go. Then. Don't think I ain't letting this slide.
Speaker 1: Jesse Holly wearing a shirt of himself today. Did y'all
Speaker 1: notice that? No, Jesse Holly is wearing a shirt. This
Speaker 1: is not all brand that has himself. It's not all
Speaker 1: brand for me. I love the show, I mean I
Speaker 1: love the shirt is right on what does say? It's
Speaker 1: Tony Romo talking to a young Jesse Holly telling him.
Speaker 1: What is he telling you right there? I have no idea.
Speaker 1: I didn't listen at all. Run down the field, don't
Speaker 1: get called, don't get caught. It's a beautiful shirt. The design,
Speaker 1: it's just a little egotistical, but I like it. It
Speaker 1: is one brand. I love it. I'm gonna be me all.
Speaker 1: I don't understand it. You know what. This dude went
Speaker 1: from structure to wait then and then Wednesday we do
Speaker 1: office defense. Thursday we do office defensive. Friday we take
Speaker 1: calls eight eight eight eight five two nine. Jesse, do
Speaker 1: you think I know your answer? But I may I
Speaker 1: may disagree with you, Like if you made it like
Speaker 1: big time as a player, like if you were a
Speaker 1: number one somewhere, would you've had ego problems you think
Speaker 1: you'd let it get to you or would you still
Speaker 1: be the same. No, because you guys like you guys,
Speaker 1: you're you're like the most arrogant humble person. I know
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, like American humble person like you
Speaker 1: guys know, I'm super low key, I'm super humble, like
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm I'm not I'm not that dude like
Speaker 1: I am one hundred percent confident in myself. Yo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: make no mistake about that. And there's a very thin
Speaker 1: line between being confident and cocky, right, and I flirt
Speaker 1: with it. You are on both sides, flirt with it daily.
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying, They I flirt with
Speaker 1: the daily. But no, No, if I was like I
Speaker 1: would be I mean, I would be super cool man,
Speaker 1: you'd be the same guy. Yeah, Nay. Were you confident
Speaker 1: when you playing? When you came up? No? No, what
Speaker 1: are you doing? What is this? I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: see before we start taking coach from the fans? Wait on,
Speaker 1: Chris Man, Hey, Chris, do we have any what? You
Speaker 1: give him the phone number, but can't he can't even
Speaker 1: get a call on the air for he just texting
Speaker 1: me that. But let me actually question the phone lines
Speaker 1: are lit right now. Let me just say, if you
Speaker 1: were Rich Dalrymple in that position, would you act like
Speaker 1: Rich Dalry? No, I'm playing Rich, I'm playing. You know
Speaker 1: you're my guy, please you you know, but you know
Speaker 1: if you were in that, you know, you know, I
Speaker 1: think that's a drop I need right there? Would you
Speaker 1: that one? Rich? Fixed? You know? I think I would
Speaker 1: like to say. I think everybody would like to say
Speaker 1: I would be me, but we you when things change,
Speaker 1: because when you have people coming at you twenty four
Speaker 1: seven and they're twenty years old or a million dollars, yeah,
Speaker 1: like you like I think one percent know if it
Speaker 1: was now, I would be the same person. Wouldn't matter
Speaker 1: if I won the lottery, if I was uber famous
Speaker 1: for something like, I would be the same person. But
Speaker 1: you asked me that fifteen twenty years ago. I would
Speaker 1: like to think I'd be the same person. But I
Speaker 1: know I've changed a little bit since I moved to Dallas.
Speaker 1: Like you know, you have to adapt to the situation
Speaker 1: you're in. I don't. I wouldn't be a jerk like
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be. We're waiting on Chris. They stop. I
Speaker 1: got a call already, waiting on y'alla on the sounder. Okay,
Speaker 1: well who got we got? We got our guy, Anthony, Anthony,
Speaker 1: what's up? What's up? Guys? This is not a ninety
Speaker 1: seconds to do some cowboy commentary. How y'all doing, my dude?
Speaker 1: That cowboys went the so Far Stadium without the Marcus Lawrence,
Speaker 1: without Randy Gregory Man, without never Galla Moore, without Donovan Wilson,
Speaker 1: without Michael Galla, without liout calling, and they did what
Speaker 1: happened they told you last week they needed to do.
Speaker 1: They ran the damn ball with Zek and Tony poll
Speaker 1: Dak only threw the ball twenty seven times, not getting
Speaker 1: Anthony tell you? Didn't Anthony tell you that? Sorry, field
Speaker 1: goal kicker earned his money finally, and the Cowboys gotta win.
Speaker 1: They gotta win. So I'm gonna call you next week.
Speaker 1: Good jail, no man out man, Thanks for calling. That's
Speaker 1: a great thought. It was a trah that maybe my dude.
Speaker 1: That's that's it, man, that's it. That's as quick as
Speaker 1: he's ever gotten off the phone. He was in and out.
Speaker 1: Yeah he yeah, I think you wrote that down. Make
Speaker 1: sure next time we asked, did he write that Anthony
Speaker 1: is the Jesse Holly of callers? How about my dude
Speaker 1: from up he like he likes to tell us how
Speaker 1: right he is every week. If you listen to me
Speaker 1: last week, this is what I told you, this is
Speaker 1: what happened. Gee's no, I know the guy with the
Speaker 1: brother in law who try to hook him up out
Speaker 1: here in the Yeah yeah yeah oge. But yeah, but
Speaker 1: you know why I want to tell you every time
Speaker 1: that I'm right. Why because when I'm wrong, everybody I'm wrong,
Speaker 1: but people let me know by the like by the thousands.
Speaker 1: It's a double as sword. They let you know because
Speaker 1: you let them know when you're right, So you can't
Speaker 1: stop right because I mean, that's what's fun, that's what
Speaker 1: makes that's why I need to make seventeen million dollars
Speaker 1: like Tony Romo does. Why what what do you mean? Why?
Speaker 1: Why would you you put yourself on the level of
Speaker 1: Tony Romo. I'm just saying he can guess and be wrong,
Speaker 1: and guess and be right. So let me guess and right.
Speaker 1: Seventeen million. Who we got Chris, we got Reginald and
Speaker 1: Conway Arkansas, Reggie, You and he can voice. It is
Speaker 1: a long time, A long time has been a while.
Speaker 1: I'm back. What's going on? What you got for I have?
Speaker 1: I want to talk about your boy, Jim Fossil Special teams,
Speaker 1: This special team savannt Uh. It seems to be uh
Speaker 1: taking the game into his own hands. I just don't
Speaker 1: like the decisions that he's making. It seems to me
Speaker 1: that he's not really taken into account the game situation.
Speaker 1: It just seems like he should have kind of doing
Speaker 1: his own thing, and uh, it really seems like he's
Speaker 1: being more reckless than aggressive. What do you guys think? Good? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't remember Reginald is the first time I've ever
Speaker 1: heard him called. Now he's called before, he's called Yeah,
Speaker 1: great call Ray. Good to hear your voice, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he used to call all the time you've been on
Speaker 1: the show. When he's called, No, I don't that voice
Speaker 1: made you touched my side? Like, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I remember somebody touched my inside. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That voice did it to me? What do y'all think?
Speaker 1: What do you think about? It? Was funny? What was
Speaker 1: this reason for doing it? Was cowboys fans aren't gonna
Speaker 1: play it safe types or something. So he was giving
Speaker 1: them what they want, doing it for the fans, for
Speaker 1: the fans. This is when you have no consequences like
Speaker 1: he plays like he has like who's gonna say something
Speaker 1: to me? And he played like we go back to
Speaker 1: last year when he was doing some things where you
Speaker 1: did a fake punt and you're on your own twenty
Speaker 1: nine yard it's just like there's no consequences for him.
Speaker 1: He does what he wants, when he wants, how he wants,
Speaker 1: and this is the first time I've ever seen anybody
Speaker 1: before in my life, like because anything like that in
Speaker 1: those critical moments normal you gotta kind of get this
Speaker 1: thing okayed by the head coach. Right you're going a
Speaker 1: headset and say, hey, man, we're thinking about going for
Speaker 1: a pump block right here, what do you think And
Speaker 1: the head coach kind of goes, nah, not right here,
Speaker 1: kick it, you know, or just hey, play safe for
Speaker 1: hey no, no, no, no no fake right now. But this
Speaker 1: guy just seems like he just flied by the seat
Speaker 1: of his pants and does what he wants, when he wants,
Speaker 1: how he wants, whatever he wants. Surely he's letting McCarthy
Speaker 1: know right If he is, then it's making look making
Speaker 1: him look bad because a lot of times you're here, coach,
Speaker 1: say right here, I felt this the game was going.
Speaker 1: They never give us an explanation. Up right here, I
Speaker 1: saw this and whoa they sat up. We worked on
Speaker 1: this all week. You you would hear something, you know,
Speaker 1: and uh, we never hear why. And you talk about
Speaker 1: a level of arrogance like even his response like I
Speaker 1: get it, but you can really only can do that
Speaker 1: when you like been on top of your game. Now
Speaker 1: you can give an arroget response, or you can kind
Speaker 1: of give a snarky response when you've been successful a lot,
Speaker 1: like if Bill Belichick does that, or Tom Brady says that,
Speaker 1: or someone of that you know that caliber says that.
Speaker 1: You go, Okay, we get the joke, we understand it,
Speaker 1: but dude, you can't. You can't come off as being
Speaker 1: snarky and being a little bit condescending when you've been
Speaker 1: bad at what you do, like you you your kicker
Speaker 1: cost is the game last week? Yeah week two weeks ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah he wanted on Sunday, But we can go back
Speaker 1: to what things would happened to last year, like you
Speaker 1: haven't been good overall as a coach, and when you
Speaker 1: come off like that, like it kind of almost gives
Speaker 1: the indication of again, I do what I want, say
Speaker 1: what I want however, I want, when I want where
Speaker 1: I want, And as the young people say, who gonna
Speaker 1: check me? Boot? Nobody gonna check him? Well. Jerry said
Speaker 1: on the fan this morning that when he said bad
Speaker 1: plays in the kicking game are like turnovers, so maybe
Speaker 1: they act like maybe it's been going on year. It's
Speaker 1: been going on, you know, starting two years now. It's
Speaker 1: like you gotta side, you can't. We look at we
Speaker 1: look at the defense. They're young, they're inexperienced as a whole.
Speaker 1: We look at the offense. You know they're missing a player,
Speaker 1: but they study trying to make things happen. And all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you got two of the three phases
Speaker 1: rolling that. All of a sudden you get somebody in
Speaker 1: the special teams one player. Just turn your whole game
Speaker 1: around with something you just played by the numbers, say hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, let's plunt here. Oh hey, let's let's
Speaker 1: cover here. Getting to give them minim minimum yards in
Speaker 1: return and we set But you want to do something special,
Speaker 1: like like you're gonna you know, like just say you're
Speaker 1: trying to decide the game. We don't need you to
Speaker 1: decide the game. Don't hurt us, expecially on the road,
Speaker 1: with momentums so hard the game and and and that's
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm like, what is it? What's going
Speaker 1: on here? Will owned the road? You're not home. When
Speaker 1: you're home, you come from where you feel good. You
Speaker 1: can snatch momentum any time because of the crowd. But
Speaker 1: on the road Nade, they don't do that. Do the
Speaker 1: players like the aggressiveness or they're kind of sitting back
Speaker 1: on what the hecks going on? After it's over, they'd
Speaker 1: be like wow, right, because you always want to like
Speaker 1: a players always. John Harball looked at Lamar Jackson said, hey,
Speaker 1: you want to go for it? It wasn't a chance
Speaker 1: in hell, Lamar Jackson, Right, He's not no players ever
Speaker 1: gonna say that. Yeah, when the coach says, hey, we're
Speaker 1: a little pump block here, I'm like, yeah, because I
Speaker 1: might get the block. So guys are always going to
Speaker 1: go for the aggressive move. But again, it's your job
Speaker 1: as a coach, like it is as a parent, Like
Speaker 1: your kid wants to go one hundred miles and hold
Speaker 1: on a sun like speed limited sixty. You're not gonna
Speaker 1: kill all of us out here. So sometimes as a
Speaker 1: coach you gotta be the parent of that thing and say,
Speaker 1: I know you guys want to go for the pump block,
Speaker 1: but how about we go you know. And on top
Speaker 1: of that, right here the naval call, you say, man,
Speaker 1: your kid was running fifteen miles an hour through through
Speaker 1: the neighborhood. Now you don't already warned you, and so
Speaker 1: now you get a call from the neighbor. So for
Speaker 1: the next month you don't have a ride. But us
Speaker 1: we just Hey, let's do fall plump, let's go fall block,
Speaker 1: Let's don't cover right, Let's let's do a fake punt
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Speaker 1: a young girl back in the day, way back in
Speaker 1: the day, way way back in the day to how
Speaker 1: to pay white boots. Let me just tell you, huge
Speaker 1: DC fan, DCC fan, Oh yeah, yeah, I'm a huge
Speaker 1: DCC fan. I don't even know what you just said,
Speaker 1: but he went so well with it, and we probably
Speaker 1: don't know that. I don't know. He went Yeah, Memory Lane,
Speaker 1: you got that one dog what it meant. Let's talk
Speaker 1: off air about that, because I kind of dedication and
Speaker 1: commitment of what it takes to become a DCC. I
Speaker 1: just related with it. You know what I'm saying that
Speaker 1: that that man, that battle to go through. You know
Speaker 1: how big people come out from it's ridiculous. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: And their training campus for those white bombs. Yep, big fan,
Speaker 1: big fan, big fan of the white boots. Chriss. Who
Speaker 1: we got? We got Tim. He's on the phone from
Speaker 1: Lexa in Texas. I didn't even know that it was
Speaker 1: a place. Hey, guys, how are y'all? Thanks for letting
Speaker 1: me on today. Where's Lexington, Texas. We're right in the
Speaker 1: middle of Austin in College Station. If you put a
Speaker 1: dot route between those two towns, that's where we're at.
Speaker 1: We're a little bit small place, but we love our
Speaker 1: high school football years. If you're between Austin and College Station,
Speaker 1: you must like the party. Well I did in my
Speaker 1: younger days. Eat and watch football fair enough, US two,
Speaker 1: US two? What's going on? Man? What's on your mind?
Speaker 1: A quick thing? It was nice. It was nice watching
Speaker 1: the game where we you know where we kind of
Speaker 1: like to coin Nate's term muddy. It was nice to
Speaker 1: actually win one of those games finally and not be
Speaker 1: on the losing end, which is where it's been in
Speaker 1: the past. But one of the things I keep hearing
Speaker 1: coming out of it is I feel like the casual
Speaker 1: fan keeps talking about, you know, uh, Pollard, Pollard, you
Speaker 1: know Pollards, that dynamic one Pollard this. I kind of
Speaker 1: look at that and say, yes, he's in his current role.
Speaker 1: Yes he's dynamic as the change of pace. You know,
Speaker 1: he's not the lead, the featured guy, the guy that's
Speaker 1: getting studied and game planned as against as much. And
Speaker 1: I can't help but think back, and I want your
Speaker 1: guy's opinions on this, back to when Marian was the
Speaker 1: compliment to Julius. You know, I felt like Marion at
Speaker 1: his height, was the most dynamic when he came in
Speaker 1: and just coming Rock did his saying, played physical, and
Speaker 1: then while Julius was there sharing the load, I felt
Speaker 1: like after Julius moved on and we went to maryon,
Speaker 1: he was still a great back force, but I never
Speaker 1: felt like he had, you know, never felt quite the same.
Speaker 1: So and I fear that that's what a lot of
Speaker 1: the casual fan is missing when it comes to Pollard
Speaker 1: and Zeke, and I would really love to hear the
Speaker 1: guy's opinions on that and how they see that. Great question.
Speaker 1: By the way, Superman, by the way, the callers are
Speaker 1: finally they're being nice, they're playing by the rules. They're
Speaker 1: not getting Christ the structure. You guys are doing it right.
Speaker 1: You're getting in, You're asking the question. You're getting now.
Speaker 1: Chris isn't having to be a jerk and hang up
Speaker 1: on anybody, so good jerk for some of you asked
Speaker 1: them to do this. Wow, what do you think about
Speaker 1: Tim's question? I love Tim's question. I think Tim is uh,
Speaker 1: he's a running back group off. I don't I want
Speaker 1: him to look at not Julius Jones and Mary and
Speaker 1: BARBERA look at Felix Jones and Mary and Barbara. That
Speaker 1: is the kind of comparison that that I would look at.
Speaker 1: And I just so happened to be here for that.
Speaker 1: Julius Jones, Felix Jones, I mean Felix Jones marrying Barber
Speaker 1: combination and maryon was your between the tackles. You're gritty,
Speaker 1: you're you know, you're mucky or muddy, hard nose yards
Speaker 1: you pound the defense, and then you had this lightning cat,
Speaker 1: quick guy like Felix Zones. And then it came to
Speaker 1: a point where someone in the front office thought that,
Speaker 1: you know what, hey, let's just make Felix Jones out
Speaker 1: every down back and we let they let go of
Speaker 1: Marian Barber. They bulked up Felix Jones and it didn't
Speaker 1: work out. It crushed, It crushed Felix. Yeah. When when
Speaker 1: I first saw that, I say, why did he gain all? Why?
Speaker 1: That's don't get but anyway, go ahead, We're on a
Speaker 1: different pace. Go ahead, No, and so wow. And if
Speaker 1: you look at where the NFL is going now, almost
Speaker 1: every team in the NFL has gone to that two
Speaker 1: running back system. And what it does is it gives
Speaker 1: defenses a headache because you have to worry. You have
Speaker 1: to worry about okay, you know, oh, man, I gotta
Speaker 1: tackle number twenty one again godly And then at the
Speaker 1: twenty one you tied the tackling him. Then you know
Speaker 1: you're a little bit tender. And then it comes to
Speaker 1: speed and it gets up on you so quick that
Speaker 1: you ain't ready to react to it, and it throws
Speaker 1: you off a little bit because you're having to kind
Speaker 1: of switch your molds back and forth, back and fourth
Speaker 1: of how I got to handle this, and they give
Speaker 1: you different looks. So this is a great dynamic, and
Speaker 1: this is a balanced dynamic. And with the extra game
Speaker 1: in the season, I think this is something that they
Speaker 1: can use to their advantage because if we're being honest,
Speaker 1: Zeke is the better overall running back overall with everything
Speaker 1: that he does, the gritty yards, the blocking, he's a
Speaker 1: pass catcher, the he could do it all. Tony Pollard
Speaker 1: gives us the juice that we don't quite get anymore
Speaker 1: with Zeke. You can see it. It's visible. When Tony
Speaker 1: Poller gets the ball, it's more of a boom. He's
Speaker 1: gone now, you know. Zeke is more of a methodical,
Speaker 1: try to find it, put his show down and get
Speaker 1: the tough yards. When Tony Pollard has to go to
Speaker 1: a place where he has to be in every down back,
Speaker 1: he just ain't built for that. He ain't built to
Speaker 1: carry the ball twenty five times a game, to pick
Speaker 1: up pass blocking, to do all that kind of craze
Speaker 1: that Zeke does. The only problem is in this combination,
Speaker 1: you pay Zee so much money. Yeah, and now when
Speaker 1: you got that fifteen million dollar tag on the running
Speaker 1: back opposed to it being six seven or eight, and
Speaker 1: now you feel more comfortable sharing that load. Fifteen million
Speaker 1: dollars is a tough thing to say, Hey, hey, we
Speaker 1: aren't going to give you the ball eighteen. But if
Speaker 1: you win the football game doesn't matter at the end
Speaker 1: of the day. I know it's hard to talk about
Speaker 1: on paper, right, No, but that is the key, and
Speaker 1: that's the key. That's the first thing I thought about
Speaker 1: after the game was is this a shift in philosophy
Speaker 1: for the I thought the exact same thing, because most
Speaker 1: teams have this two headed monster attack. Is this a
Speaker 1: shift in philosophy? And we know how coach McCarthy feels
Speaker 1: about having a healthy team going into the long you know,
Speaker 1: the long haul. Are they did this prove that this works?
Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden, it's like you're gonna
Speaker 1: start seeing equal carries. Now, yeah, Zeke's gonna be workhorse
Speaker 1: and when you need the tough yards. But I mean,
Speaker 1: are we going to start seeing more of this balanced attack?
Speaker 1: You look at Sandy Ago they had Eckler and the
Speaker 1: number twenty two. You look at Washington they have m
Speaker 1: kiss Seeking, they have every team has it, Like Jesse said,
Speaker 1: the only difference is the money, the money for Zeke.
Speaker 1: And because I'm sitting there looking like, oh man, oh,
Speaker 1: they even gave it to a CD lamb at the backfield.
Speaker 1: Where's Zeke. Nah? Let's let this play out, you know.
Speaker 1: And the fans y'all, y'all have at it. But the
Speaker 1: people that know better, like this guy that called in
Speaker 1: and no better, Let's let this play out. Let's let's
Speaker 1: let it see at the end. Let's see. Zeke may
Speaker 1: be like fine wine. Over time, he'll prove himself and
Speaker 1: you bought like a good candle motor. Or he's slick,
Speaker 1: he's swift, and he can do what he need to do.
Speaker 1: So let's just let this play out. You know, I
Speaker 1: gotta tell people I had Zeke at fifteen hundred yards.
Speaker 1: But more importantly, I need the Cowboys to win. I
Speaker 1: don't need to worry about whether Zeke getting getting his touches,
Speaker 1: because if his touches don't prove to be wins, it
Speaker 1: does me no good as a fan. You want to win.
Speaker 1: I don't do fantasy and I guess this is why
Speaker 1: I get lost. I don't do fantasy football. I do winning.
Speaker 1: So when you do winning, no, I'm serious. You win
Speaker 1: in fantasy football too because you picked your players. But
Speaker 1: I do team winning. I'm a Dallas Cowboy fan. My
Speaker 1: second team is a Raiders, So I do winning. I
Speaker 1: don't do uh who gets the most carriage. The only
Speaker 1: consistence I need is from my quarterbacks. I don't need
Speaker 1: for that to change. I need for that to stay
Speaker 1: the same. So it was about an eighty twenty split
Speaker 1: on snaps the first game, it was like seventy thirty
Speaker 1: snaps the second game. Do you does Paula need more snaps?
Speaker 1: It should have been sixty forty or the game would
Speaker 1: tell you the game Paula got hot. So what do
Speaker 1: you do if you got a running back to Zeke
Speaker 1: of his stature and his money and he he's sitting
Speaker 1: over that down with it. You don't mess it up.
Speaker 1: You don't mess up. Now, what does Zeke comingto doll of? Hey,
Speaker 1: j I need my Oh Stephen, I okay, you still
Speaker 1: don't change it, you know he doesn't. Zeke see what
Speaker 1: people trying to do in the media, which is their job,
Speaker 1: is to force a confrontation. Zeke ain't allowing it. So
Speaker 1: as long as Zeke, don't allow it. This thing is
Speaker 1: gonna roll and it's gonna be positive. So where it sits.
Speaker 1: The thing that we can't have with with Tony poll
Speaker 1: is when you go back and look at his usage, Right,
Speaker 1: he played I think eighteen total snaps. He got the
Speaker 1: ball sixteen times. Yes, I can't have Tony poll playing
Speaker 1: eighteen twenty something snaps and he gets the ball two times, right,
Speaker 1: because then we're saying, well, what the hell he's doing
Speaker 1: out here? If you're going to play him, play him,
Speaker 1: use him, use him. Yeah right, I'm not saying he
Speaker 1: had to get the ball every single time, but when
Speaker 1: you put him in the situation, if you're going to
Speaker 1: take your fifteen million dollars running back off the field,
Speaker 1: then I can't consistently have empty yards from a guy
Speaker 1: because now I'm getting empty yards from Zeke because he's
Speaker 1: on the sideline. And then when I put Tony Pollard
Speaker 1: in the game, I'm getting empty yards from him too.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna play him twenty twenty five snaps, then
Speaker 1: he needs to see the ball when he's in the game.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. So, like the usage of
Speaker 1: Tony pollit is if you're going to play him, use him,
Speaker 1: don't play him Justifer for playing sake. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, go ahead and use him in situations
Speaker 1: where you match him up and gets a linebacker. And
Speaker 1: there comes a point in time, and maybe it comes
Speaker 1: out this week when you can use Zeke and Tony
Speaker 1: Polo at the same time. You want to find some
Speaker 1: more you know, Michael Gallop being out, you want to
Speaker 1: find some more supposed to plays. Then now you put
Speaker 1: them both in the back for at the same time
Speaker 1: you put one guy in motion. And now you're saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: that tells me man or zone or what I want
Speaker 1: to go. And now I'm able to pick this thing up.
Speaker 1: If the box says run, that's what I got back here,
Speaker 1: I got twenty one. The box says passed, what is
Speaker 1: my matchup? Did a linebacker run out here on Tony Pollard? Cool?
Speaker 1: Now I know I can go to that pass play
Speaker 1: because I like Tony Pollit in space against a linebacker
Speaker 1: or okay, linebackers out there that that that space is
Speaker 1: avoid it. I can go tight end, I can go
Speaker 1: see the lamb. So when you put these guys in
Speaker 1: the game together, or even when you put them in
Speaker 1: the game separately, use them in a manner in what
Speaker 1: you're going to come out with a positive result. Don't
Speaker 1: just have him out there to have him out there,
Speaker 1: have him out there to use them to their strength.
Speaker 1: Let me let me ask a dumb question, if you know,
Speaker 1: if it's dumb. While you gonna ask you, let's just
Speaker 1: go like the phone question when we got thirty people
Speaker 1: to get to KURTI get their opinion is, don't start
Speaker 1: with it's a dumb question because we don't need that.
Speaker 1: Just ask the damn question and let's move on. We
Speaker 1: got everything that comes out of your mouth is dumb.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Yeah, take so smart question. If Pollard's
Speaker 1: in the game for twenty snaps and he's getting the
Speaker 1: ball sixteen times, does that make you predictable in anyway
Speaker 1: because of defense knows here comes Pollard. There's a eighty
Speaker 1: percent chance he's getting the ball. No, no, no, because
Speaker 1: the matchups they they they wait. Kell. My thing has
Speaker 1: gotten smart is he sees matchups. He dictate. Now matchups. Okay,
Speaker 1: if we get this, look, we get this. You know,
Speaker 1: if we put this guy and we get this, look,
Speaker 1: we got these two guys and we possibly get this
Speaker 1: look he's dictating now the looks he get, and it's
Speaker 1: showing up. And that's that's all it is. It showed up.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a game or two where he the
Speaker 1: matchups don't work, and then that's gonna come down the
Speaker 1: deck making sure the matchups get done, you know. And
Speaker 1: so as much as we love Gallup, especially myself, as
Speaker 1: much as I love this guy, we have too many
Speaker 1: explosive players. It's the only guy that I would be
Speaker 1: nervous about that don't play. It's Cooper because Cooper can
Speaker 1: set pace. You know, everybody else they are who they are,
Speaker 1: who's not exploded, even Wilson who's not exploded, because they
Speaker 1: got the right matchups. It's all about the matchups. All right.
Speaker 1: Let's take one more call before we go to break. Chris.
Speaker 1: Who we got on the phone. We got Bruce from Illinois.
Speaker 1: Bruce from Illinois. What's up? Bruce? Hey, what's going on? Shannon?
Speaker 1: Kurt Nate, what's going on? Um? Channon? I told you
Speaker 1: the big mister Brown is gonna be a problem for
Speaker 1: us down the road. Anthony Brown, I know you ain't
Speaker 1: gonna gonna stick with him, but a little bit. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna stick the side him a little bit longer, a
Speaker 1: little bit longer. Yeah, I don't know why we can't
Speaker 1: throw a rookie and now and let him get done
Speaker 1: so you know, get that experience that he he's been
Speaker 1: getting for six years. Now. Well, well the things, sir,
Speaker 1: you can stay on the phone. But the thing is
Speaker 1: Anthony may get beat, but he's gonna be least close
Speaker 1: to where he's supposed to be. The other guys they
Speaker 1: gotta is a little bit deeper than that. Assignments and
Speaker 1: alignments mean a lot too. And yeah, Anthony's still getting
Speaker 1: getting It took to him a little bit, but he's
Speaker 1: still right now, better charge because I don't think coach
Speaker 1: Quinn and his staff have a problem if a young
Speaker 1: guy knows what to do, I don't think they have
Speaker 1: a problem. They're not like the last few staffs we've had.
Speaker 1: They ain't got a problem with putting the young guy
Speaker 1: in and giving you thousands of looks on defense. It'll
Speaker 1: be interesting with Kelvin Joseph's healthy again. Yeah, well we'll see,
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see. My last question is uh is
Speaker 1: Mary gonna be healthy enough to play this weekend? And
Speaker 1: thankful like you guys, y'all have a nice of the week.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Bruce. That's a great call. Nice polite way
Speaker 1: to go, Bruce calling me. I'm still sticking by Anthony
Speaker 1: Brown for a little bit long. Give me beside him, Anthony,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm hanging in there, man, you my guy. But
Speaker 1: but let's go, let's go, let's pick it up a
Speaker 1: little bit. Let's go. All right, Kirk all your chips
Speaker 1: on Anthony Brown, they're not at all. See what I
Speaker 1: did there? Chip on this pack on the shoulder there right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: How did you trust a man with a tattoo chip
Speaker 1: like a a chip of a tattoo of a chip.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't trust a man that does that.
Speaker 1: I can't trust a man that put a chip on
Speaker 1: his shoulder like a legit ship, ruffle, ruffles, a rustle?
Speaker 1: What is it? Rough? Ruffle? Ruffle? Who know? What do
Speaker 1: you eat? Ruffles? If you ever like talk about you
Speaker 1: say words out loud and when you say him, it's
Speaker 1: like ship. By the way, what did you ever say
Speaker 1: words out loud? And then you like, is that the
Speaker 1: right word? Like? Is that how you pronounce the word
Speaker 1: just like out of the blues. Sometimes I'm just like,
Speaker 1: is that the way you say say spelling things? Sometimes?
Speaker 1: I mean it could be because I'm from Louisiana. Words
Speaker 1: are hard. Nothing. When you said ruffle, I said ruffle
Speaker 1: out loud. I was like, that's like is that? How
Speaker 1: is that the word? Like? Is that? You ever have
Speaker 1: words like that just come out and you're hearing me talk,
Speaker 1: don't you? I wonder that all the time. I didn't
Speaker 1: know if it was just me or like when you
Speaker 1: say I'm an extra dumb question, that's a totally different thing.
Speaker 1: That's a different thing. I'm guilty of that too, Kurt.
Speaker 1: That's why that's why I made fun of you. So
Speaker 1: how what is the report on uh Amari bruised ribs?
Speaker 1: Rather saying yeah, coach said he would call it bruised ribs.
Speaker 1: So we'll see. It's gonna be interesting thinking one if
Speaker 1: he can go and too, if you how he's he does,
Speaker 1: its gonna be a hit. Because we we watched on
Speaker 1: the replay in the stadium and then we had video
Speaker 1: of it. We went back and forth. Did he get
Speaker 1: it looked like his arm got hit. I didn't see
Speaker 1: his That's that's how you get crushed. In the game.
Speaker 1: I think he got hurt. Wasn't on that play. The
Speaker 1: play just kind of aggravated it. Brother, That thing y'all
Speaker 1: been talking about the last few days body shots. When
Speaker 1: you get hit like that repeatedly, repeatedly all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: when the game over with and you kind of hits
Speaker 1: the game, whereas one you're like, whoa man, that do? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's starting to hurt because even in the end zone,
Speaker 1: a lot of people think that that guy hit the
Speaker 1: other guys more than it wanted to hit Themari, but
Speaker 1: Maari arm was trapped right up against his ribs and
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the same side, but I'm
Speaker 1: telling you to get hit repeatedly the way they was
Speaker 1: doing a Mari, it may didn't look like much. And
Speaker 1: receivers don't wear that don't wear rid pads protection. In
Speaker 1: today's game, speaking of pass, did y'all notice a couple
Speaker 1: of the guys. Chris pointed this out to me, and
Speaker 1: like a couple of the guys now have the dive pads,
Speaker 1: but they have their number on the left leg and
Speaker 1: like the star on the right leg. That's actually really
Speaker 1: really freaking that happened, Like that started like it. Maybe
Speaker 1: a year or so ago, companies started making like personalized.
Speaker 1: Everything now is personalized your brand, it's your brand, right,
Speaker 1: and so they started making personalized things to put in
Speaker 1: because in college they made it mandatory. In the league,
Speaker 1: they made it manatory at least have I pads on.
Speaker 1: So you know, remember, for a long period of time,
Speaker 1: guys didn't wear pads at all. Yeah when I when
Speaker 1: I was, when I was playing out too long ago,
Speaker 1: nobody wore passing their pants. You you know, you might
Speaker 1: have had some little beep, but nobody were passing their plans.
Speaker 1: And it's so stupid how small some of these pads are,
Speaker 1: Like they're literally some of them are not much bigger
Speaker 1: than that bottle cap. Like it's like, yeah, got pads
Speaker 1: on the site. Yeah, but the company started making those
Speaker 1: to have that personalize because everybody wears you know, you
Speaker 1: might be like a real life thirty two, thirty four,
Speaker 1: thirty six geans, but your game pants decide twenty eight
Speaker 1: like because you want them super duper tight. So that
Speaker 1: that now shows due football players wear cups, no, so
Speaker 1: you just junk just out there. Yeah, game, when you
Speaker 1: when you go from being when you go from having
Speaker 1: a wee wee to actually having like a real unit.
Speaker 1: We have a real unit that stuff is uncoming. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: you developed. Yeah, but I would think especially as alignment
Speaker 1: with all it grabbing and punching. Man, it's so common.
Speaker 1: How often do you get hitting the dingf Honestly as
Speaker 1: a receiver, it's never on purpose. It's like something like
Speaker 1: you might be running somebody. Yeah it's hope this is
Speaker 1: the cow by today Like yeah, yeah, but I have
Speaker 1: some my stomach hanging over me, so it protect close
Speaker 1: my mind. Were there were there times where like would
Speaker 1: you go like, why does this couple you sound excited?
Speaker 1: We talk talking about the area, you all of a
Speaker 1: sudden got energy. Let's take out talking about you got excited? Man?
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Speaker 1: I'm a skinny guy. I was just wondering, like when
Speaker 1: you pushing three fifty four hundred pounds, like, ain't what's
Speaker 1: I got hit once or twice like that, But what's
Speaker 1: what's the what's the view from the top down? Look
Speaker 1: like can you can you see yourself? I'm good with that. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Just don't go look for cups. And there's Barry church eyeballing.
Speaker 1: He didn't look at Jesse again. He looked at Nate down.
Speaker 1: He won't make eye contact with Jesse. He know better.
Speaker 1: We'll see well, he knew he could spot me in
Speaker 1: the forty thirty nine yards. All right, let's let's move
Speaker 1: home from the last segment. That was a that was
Speaker 1: a good for good for a laugh to a caller. Right,
Speaker 1: we are going to take a call. We got time
Speaker 1: for one, maybe two, maybe three more depends out pastor
Speaker 1: who we got, Chris got, Josh and Maryland Josh, what's up, Josh,
Speaker 1: Let's go, let's go. Hey, what's gonna tell y'all feelings?
Speaker 1: I can't complain, can't complain real quick, y'all already spent
Speaker 1: enough time when I'm running back. That was my first question. Uh,
Speaker 1: second statement, more so is Michael Parson? That boy a
Speaker 1: different kind of dogs. We got back there and he
Speaker 1: gonna he doing some serious work for us. But Nate,
Speaker 1: I know you're not gonna like this because it's a
Speaker 1: fantasy thing. But can y'all imagine if we took that
Speaker 1: a Saltee Samuel's kid instead of this Calvin Joseph dude
Speaker 1: did I'll see the way a stake was strapping out there,
Speaker 1: and he got picked number forty seven. Calvin got picked
Speaker 1: number forty four. But other than that great win, we're
Speaker 1: talking to y'all, fell You know what, y'a man, You
Speaker 1: know that's just a fan and the fan didn't Uh.
Speaker 1: But you know, I've made up in my mind, I'm
Speaker 1: through living on what we didn't get. You know, we
Speaker 1: got so many guys in his last ten or fifteen years, Well,
Speaker 1: we could a No, this is the handwill dealt. This
Speaker 1: is the guys we have to deal with. Sante Samuel
Speaker 1: is a great player so far early in his career.
Speaker 1: We just gotta get this kid the chance. And right
Speaker 1: now we're riding with Shannon's boyd Brown and who and
Speaker 1: just Josh just kind of when you start looking at
Speaker 1: who got picked, when they got picked, where they got picked,
Speaker 1: why they got picked. A Sante Samuel is a small dude.
Speaker 1: I think he's under five for ten. That's not prototypical.
Speaker 1: In Dan Quinn's defense, he wants more of your bigger
Speaker 1: type corners. And so when they were looking at the
Speaker 1: corner position, one of the reasons why a Sante Sante
Speaker 1: got looked over. And I get it. I hear what
Speaker 1: you're saying. You know, I'm always a guy. I love pedigree.
Speaker 1: I love when you come from somebody that was a
Speaker 1: ball of that man. Means you got a great chance
Speaker 1: to have some of that in you. But his size,
Speaker 1: his size was it. It's probably the determining factor when
Speaker 1: it came down to do we pick him or do
Speaker 1: we take Kelvin Joseph. And this was a heavy defensive draft.
Speaker 1: They looked at Dan quinnin Dan kn't say give me
Speaker 1: the big corner. I My system works better and works
Speaker 1: well with a bigger corner. We got it. Got small
Speaker 1: corners here, We got Jordan Lewis, we got Anthony Brown.
Speaker 1: I want my six foot and above guys. Don't don't
Speaker 1: give me the five ten and under guys. That doesn't
Speaker 1: fit well on my system. And if I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: here for the next couple of years and you're gonna
Speaker 1: put this thing on me to turning around, then give
Speaker 1: me all the groceries that I need to give you
Speaker 1: this five star dinner and that be that. That particular
Speaker 1: pick was Calvin Joseph. Uh. You know, I don't want
Speaker 1: to say this out too loud, but say the old
Speaker 1: This guy has been coming peeping our shows Earth. Yeah, knew.
Speaker 1: They want to see how a great group of guys
Speaker 1: work together, you know what I'm saying. So they lack
Speaker 1: chemistry we got. We got the chemistry and the enthusiasm.
Speaker 1: They got the I think they went cups say they
Speaker 1: ain't just let me go. Let's do one more call
Speaker 1: before we get out of here. That's the group when
Speaker 1: the show who We ended the show with Chris Palmer
Speaker 1: and Dallas, what's up? Not much? Hey, I want to
Speaker 1: ask y'all how y'all doing, because I know you hate it,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna beat this dead horse to death. So
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that a special team's coach before they go
Speaker 1: out for block for punk coverage, you can tell their
Speaker 1: team listen, we have two minutes to get the ball
Speaker 1: back and score before half, and they get the ball
Speaker 1: to start the second half. If anyone touches that punter,
Speaker 1: we're gonna cut you with that. I'll listen. Thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you, Palmer, thank you. That's our good friend, Palmer.
Speaker 1: That is our good friend, Palmer, Dallas, that you also try.
Speaker 1: It's a difference, man. I don't know Jess ever heard
Speaker 1: said and other guys one of the shows you know
Speaker 1: that I do. They said, it's a difference between being
Speaker 1: smart and just being a you know, be aggressive, but
Speaker 1: you gotta be smart. Don't be reckless, ye don't be
Speaker 1: reckless perfect, And that's what we're doing. You know. We're
Speaker 1: just like, Okay, we hit the putter. We know what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen, you know. But like that you said, there's
Speaker 1: no repercussions. It's like, hey, you know, I don't put
Speaker 1: you in time out if you are do that again?
Speaker 1: They thing you know, are you doing that? Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: doing it again, thank you. And you can't you can't
Speaker 1: call for your attack dog to sick and then be like, well,
Speaker 1: why do you bite them? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, you see
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, when you call for a punt block,
Speaker 1: in my head automatically almost comes recklessness. Yeah, because you've
Speaker 1: given me the call to go balls to the wall
Speaker 1: and really tell you get this thing. So there's a
Speaker 1: level of recklessness that comes with punt block. Now when
Speaker 1: you say punt safe, Hey, we're gonna return right, return left,
Speaker 1: return middle, my mind changes. I'm coming off a little different.
Speaker 1: I want to make sure my angles are right. I
Speaker 1: want to make sure I got the right guy. But
Speaker 1: when you say, hey, pump block, pump block, that tells
Speaker 1: all the dudes up from where the pump block go
Speaker 1: get it. And now we turn into crazed dogs. And
Speaker 1: so when you have a situation that happens like that,
Speaker 1: what guy run into the punter is because you gave
Speaker 1: the sick command. You gave the sick him command. So
Speaker 1: I'm going to get the football. Is that a thing
Speaker 1: where he said they were trying to move the they
Speaker 1: were trying to push the up back or whatever the
Speaker 1: guy's called the guy that's a thing, or you just
Speaker 1: go well at times if he's set back, like you
Speaker 1: can watch film and say, hey, he sits back a
Speaker 1: little bit too deep, or that kicker takes to come
Speaker 1: on that one that is close. Yes, but again I'm
Speaker 1: coming with reckless abandoned. I'm not coming with im. I
Speaker 1: got zero structure. I got zero structure. I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to go get to the football. And if my assignment
Speaker 1: wasn't take him and drive him into what you call it,
Speaker 1: you have all that collateral damage when they get to
Speaker 1: around the football because you called. You gave the call
Speaker 1: to go get them, and now you got a bunch
Speaker 1: of guys trying to go get that punt because you
Speaker 1: get a block a punt that you you know, campus
Speaker 1: out there. Hi, fellas, Tomorrow, we are going to have
Speaker 1: a very special guest to close out the show, the
Speaker 1: final segment of the show tomorrow, Chris, we got to
Speaker 1: work out the mic situation here. We are gonna have
Speaker 1: to honor the kickoff of Survivor. We are going to
Speaker 1: have a participant of the show Survivor, our very own
Speaker 1: Danny McCray, former teammate of years right, yes, former teammate
Speaker 1: of Jesse as an Alie dog as well, so special
Speaker 1: group of guys. Yes, we'll get him talk about that.
Speaker 1: We'll get him talk about his experience on Survivor because
Speaker 1: once the show airs tomorrow night, he's not allowed to
Speaker 1: talk about it at all. So we'll have one of
Speaker 1: the last times to publicly let him talk about Survivor.
Speaker 1: And by the way, tune in next him. Bury Church
Speaker 1: and Newie Scrugs will be on with the players lounge
Speaker 1: right after we get off. And my boy, Jesse, Hollygna.
Speaker 1: We got a tournament coming up, a tournament or whatever
Speaker 1: you pronounced it. You're gonna competition bust up, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, you know Barry. Barry's not gonna come in
Speaker 1: here because he don't want to be in the same
Speaker 1: room with you, Jesse. Yeah, he won't to make eye contact.
Speaker 1: He just he stares Nate down, but he won't look
Speaker 1: at you. So because he can beat me running but
Speaker 1: he can't. Don't think get my boy yet. I felt
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