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Speaker 1: Welcome to the drive. I am Dale Lalli. He is

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Speaker 1: the Matt Williamson and Matt Season's over.

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Speaker 2: Season's over in the books.

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Speaker 1: The same way it ended the same way that it

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Speaker 1: ended last year with the Kansas City Chiefs winning the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, congrats to Kansas City. Impressive run here, you know

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Speaker 2: for what looked like a quote down season for them,

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Speaker 2: But it wasn't for their defense, as you said last

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Speaker 2: year too, right exactly, I don't think there is such

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Speaker 2: a thing. Ended up being a pretty good game all

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Speaker 2: in all. It's the beginning.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't the first quarters real? A little sloppy, and then

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Speaker 1: it got it got better as it went on, and

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Speaker 1: obviously the fourth quarter is the fourth quarter. I was

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Speaker 1: at at a friend's house, my wife friend's house, and

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Speaker 1: what was the thirteen to ten, and going into the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter, I said, this is going to end up

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Speaker 1: in the twenties. Oh, because these two teams are starting

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Speaker 1: to figure some things out.

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Speaker 2: D lines are starting to slow down, and you know,

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Speaker 2: the fatigue in the Super Bowl is a real thing.

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Speaker 2: That's a long game and a long day and a

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Speaker 2: long week, and you know those d lines were controlling action,

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Speaker 2: but that's stopped pretty quick after at that point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So let's let's dive into a couple of the

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Speaker 1: subjects here. So one of the criticisms of the forty

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Speaker 1: nine ers is taking the ball to start the overtime period.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: One of the things used in that criticism or the

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Speaker 1: analytics say, there are no analytics for this, It's never

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Speaker 1: been done before, right.

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Speaker 2: I actually heard so Seth Walter on ESPN say, we

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Speaker 2: ran a bunch of analytics since and it's fifty to fifty, right,

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Speaker 2: you know, and we really don't have much to go

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Speaker 1: You don't have anything to go on much. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: don't have anything to go off and it never happened before.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. And I don't give Shanahan a

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Speaker 2: hard time for that at all. I do think that

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Speaker 2: there's an advantage to be in number two, But there's

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Speaker 2: definitely an advantage to be number three if it gets to that,

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Speaker 2: absolutely massive advantage if it gets to that, if you.

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Speaker 1: Don't think and the fourth quarter kind of showed that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if our defense can. This is where

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Speaker 1: the analytics fall short.

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Speaker 2: It's a couple of things, the game situation.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we can stop these guys again.

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Speaker 1: So let's take I want to make sure that we

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Speaker 1: have the football once they go score, once they go score,

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Speaker 2: I think that's a big piece of it too. And

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Speaker 2: I'm exactly I'm sure this is what you're saying or not.

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Speaker 2: But like I thought, both defenses were shot, especially the

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Speaker 2: defensive front. So if you win the coin toss, at

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Speaker 2: least yours can rest a little longer than the other one,

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Speaker 2: you know, I mean, I thought that was a pivotal

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Speaker 2: gets you know, exemplified with a great quarterback like Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: But now they're all the decisions are done. You know,

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Speaker 2: you know you're gonna go for it. Really, all you

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Speaker 2: gotta do is pick up ten yards on four plays

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Speaker 2: over and over and over, which doesn't sound hard.

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Speaker 1: You know, you can still screw it up, but the

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Speaker 1: penalty or exactly anything like that, which is kind of

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Speaker 1: what happened with San Francisco's drive, right. The one mistake

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Speaker 1: I thought Shanahan and I criticized this at the time,

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Speaker 1: this isn't they had fourth in at the end of

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Speaker 1: regulation just after the two minute warning. I give it

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Speaker 1: was like fourth and four.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I don't remember.

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Speaker 1: They're deep in They're deep in Kansas City territory. And

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I go for this because I don't want

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Speaker 1: And say, okay, all you need you know, yeah, a

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Speaker 2: Just because that's almost an impossible thing to snap at

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Speaker 1: Yeah, where if I can get this, If I pick

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Speaker 2: I know I win. At least I don't win hoping

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Speaker 2: Mahomes doesn't kill us. Like that's the most hopeless feeling

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Speaker 2: you let let them score and get into a field

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Speaker 2: just controlling your own faith the end of football games

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they faced it was so it was third and

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Speaker 1: This is at the end of regulation. Second and fourth

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter. Here, where's there?

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Speaker 2: Okay, and say they weren't that deep in their own end.

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Speaker 1: a two minute warning. Uh shotgown Brock pretty passing complete

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Speaker 2: Which isn't a given too, because that's that's a pretty

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Speaker 1: That's second and five with two forty five remaining in

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Speaker 1: Kansas City's not using its time outslet yet woun I'm

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Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't think he coached a bad game

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Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. But but I'm with you that

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Speaker 2: that third and five, I remember turning to my son, going,

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Speaker 2: I didn't they run the ball there?

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Speaker 1: You know, like, yeah, you got two shots to get

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Speaker 1: blitzing on those third down situations.

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Speaker 2: sure McCaffrey's gonna get two or three on a carry,

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Speaker 1: Oh, he was pretty consistent and gaining positive yardage on

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Speaker 1: I think at times, if I do have a criticism

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Speaker 2: That's certainly a history of his. Now this is easier

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Speaker 2: said than done, But you saw it with the Chiefs too,

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Speaker 2: Like when it really mattered late in the game, the

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Speaker 2: use Check and Jennings and those type of dudes like

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Speaker 2: they go to their studs. Yeah, Shanahan doesn't always.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know that. That to me, you know

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Speaker 1: Now second work with is a lot, and you've got

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Speaker 1: plenty of time, Like time is on. Time is on

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Speaker 2: Fine, So bigger picture with this game. I'm not detracting

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Speaker 2: really really good dealing with pressure early on. The Niners

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Speaker 2: over and over. Mahomes made some big plays with this play.

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Speaker 1: Last when San Francisco lost this game. That's what I saying.

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Speaker 1: It's zero zero after a quarter in Kansas City's never

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Speaker 2: what three to nothing for a long time, and you

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Speaker 1: You were the better team. You were dominating the play

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Speaker 2: it's a he a lot better chance, of course. But

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Speaker 2: that was huge to me is Mahomes did a lot

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Speaker 2: of great things, and he was best when it matters most,

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Speaker 2: and he's the best quarterback I've ever seen. That being said,

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Speaker 2: I don't think the game was lost by boy. Their

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Speaker 2: like we couldn't guard Jordan who scored sixty five points.

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Speaker 2: You know, it was just dominant. And that's not to

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Speaker 2: tracting for Mahomes. It's kind of just they lost on

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Speaker 2: special teams, Their third downs were poor, They lost kind

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Speaker 2: So I know this kind of reflects on the Steelers,

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Speaker 2: But if you told me who am I going to

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Speaker 2: pick the win SUP Bowl next year? I probably would

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Speaker 2: take the Chiefs or I would definitely take consider a

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Speaker 2: I don't think you can't keep up with those teams

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Speaker 2: and then which.

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Speaker 1: Was two game, yeah, with Patrick Mahomes, who's the best

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Speaker 2: League, right, five full quarters of play basically.

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Speaker 1: You know. That's every single every big ball game, Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 2: He's my first pick times one thousand, obviously. But I

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Speaker 2: get back to Shanahan. I can't believe of Shanahan and

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Speaker 1: Their problem is is that, you know, now the cap

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 1: He runs up, gets in the face, and pushes.

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Speaker 2: Right, and Reid's going to get the ball to his

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Speaker 2: had such good careers. But Chris Jones and Kelsey they

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Speaker 2: testament to read that he didn't flip out, considering Kelsey

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Speaker 1: He completely flipped out? If you're the Chiefs. And this

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Speaker 2: I mean he blatantly said, hey, I'm coming back while

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Speaker 2: And emotions are high, and it's you know, there's no

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Speaker 2: everyone's back to Travis and Taylor and everyone's happy and

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Speaker 2: It's gotten really bad.

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Speaker 1: He is awful. I used to think he was the best,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what that is. I

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Speaker 1: But how player who's in the booth can't give any

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Speaker 2: Would that be on the sidelines when you were playing

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Speaker 1: You know, you know, if you're the if you put

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Speaker 1: Put yourself in my home shoes. You were quarterback?

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Speaker 1: But you've been in those shoes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I just thought it was bizarre, you know, not

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Speaker 2: They did even Mahomes, like during that Raider stretch when

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Speaker 1: Nobody can commercial, nobody, nobody can not like Andy Reid,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they won super Bowl. They won the Super Bowl, and.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to the drive here on

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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. Well, we just saw a team take

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs to the to the brink. There. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson and

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Speaker 1: Matt Kansas City Chiefs are on the Steelers schedule for

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. They actually come to Agrosure Field Akroasuer Stadium. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what do they need to do? And obviously the

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Speaker 1: go there, let's take it kind of a similar approach.

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Speaker 1: But like if I'm the if this was Niners Radio

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Speaker 2: Well, you're not going to do that, folks, you know,

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: So if you're them, I think you keep the course.

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Speaker 2: If you're the Steelers, I think you look at the

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Speaker 1: I mean they're gonna think. There's twenty five teams in

436
00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,320
Speaker 1: the league that have exact that way.

437
00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,479
Speaker 2: Exactly, and it doesn't mean that none of them can

438
00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,760
Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl or none of them can kill Superman,

439
00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,399
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, and he is, He's Superman. But

440
00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:40,800
Speaker 2: I think you have to look at it and be like,

441
00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:46,600
Speaker 2: if we play that game a little cleaner, we greatly

442
00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,280
Speaker 2: enhance our chances of winning. Could the Steelers get to

443
00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,080
Speaker 2: that point? Well, the offense is a long way to go.

444
00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:56,400
Speaker 2: I mean that was how about this number? So Aaron

445
00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,320
Speaker 2: Schottz put out, you know, DVOA. Guy, if people don't

446
00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:04,800
Speaker 2: know that the Chiefs had the hardest versus DVOA stretch

447
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,600
Speaker 2: of teams in any Super Bowl winner ever has you

448
00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,320
Speaker 2: know that they're playoff games that they beat and they

449
00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,640
Speaker 2: also beat the top four offenses in the league by

450
00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,120
Speaker 2: DVOA when it was all said and done. So can

451
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,760
Speaker 2: the Steelers get to being a top four type offense?

452
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,000
Speaker 2: I mean that's a massive stride from where they're at,

453
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,639
Speaker 2: of course, but you got to think it's going the

454
00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:31,040
Speaker 2: right direction at least. I do think a physical nature

455
00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,359
Speaker 2: has a lot to do with it, you know, winning

456
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 2: it both lines of scrimmage, as I thought the Niners

457
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,960
Speaker 2: did for much of that game. But you can't fumble

458
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 2: in the red zone and have punts bounce off your

459
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,520
Speaker 2: foot and things like that too, you know.

460
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you do need a little bit of lucky.

461
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Speaker 1: But this is this is a Chiefs team that lost

462
00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:50,120
Speaker 1: to the Raiders last year.

463
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. I also think beating the Chiefs in the regular

464
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,840
Speaker 2: seasons an easier task than in the Super Bowl or

465
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 2: the postseason. Oh, I get that question about.

466
00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 1: That, but I mean they lost six games this year. Yeah,

467
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 1: they weren't some unbeatable juggernaut.

468
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 2: Their offense wasn't particularly good.

469
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,359
Speaker 1: I mean it was okay, yeah, even yet in that

470
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 1: game again in three points in the first half of

471
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 1: that game. Yeah, that's where you can't pressure all the time.

472
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,919
Speaker 1: That's where you can't lose it. It's the same thing

473
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,160
Speaker 1: that happened and we talked about this at the time

474
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 1: when the Steelers went out there two years three years

475
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:22,679
Speaker 1: ago now and played them in the playoffs. Yeah, the

476
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 1: defense got stops six consecutive times against this team.

477
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 2: You got to score, you got to score whenever everything

478
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 2: has to fall into place, one side of the ball

479
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,640
Speaker 2: can't show up and the other not obviously, And even

480
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 2: the Niners though, I mean, they're getting a ton of

481
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 2: pressure on my homes early in that game, and he's

482
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,200
Speaker 2: not taking a ton of sacks or doing a lot

483
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,679
Speaker 2: of bad things, but you're moving the football early the

484
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,400
Speaker 2: opening drive, you're walking down the field against the Chiefs,

485
00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 2: and unfortunately you fumble and you know it's McCaffrey. He

486
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 2: gets a pass. He's tremendous. Trent Williams has two penalties

487
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 2: in a row, you know, like little things. This game

488
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 2: was lost in the margins secial teams, which we knew

489
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 2: the Chiefs had advantage going in. Well, you should be

490
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 2: better on special teams, like.

491
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:11,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you don't get an extra point blocked right regulation.

492
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,640
Speaker 2: And in particularly that goofy punt situation, you know, and

493
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 2: they were like three of sixteen or something on third downs,

494
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 2: you know, like they got into third and lungs too

495
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 2: much and didn't convert on third downs. I mean, little things.

496
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 2: But if you look at the team stats, they're almost

497
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,399
Speaker 2: identical except for third downs. Yeah, they both turned for

498
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 2: twelve three for twelve, three for twelve. That was one

499
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 2: of the only stats that was greatly favoring Kansas City.

500
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kansas City was nine of nineteen on third downs.

501
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 1: It's a significant difference.

502
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 2: It's a significant difference, right, But all in all, it

503
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 2: was a very equally played game.

504
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the one. You know, one of the

505
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 1: other big difference is yards per play five point eight

506
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 1: yards per play for Kansas City five foot four.

507
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 2: For yeh, San Francisco. Okay, So a couple of notes.

508
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,959
Speaker 2: This is as much Steeler related, but it's also how

509
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 2: you beat the chiefs chief flitz. The Chief blitzed at

510
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 2: over fifty percent rate. A lot of it was run downs,

511
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 2: run blitzes, but they were still bringing pressure and because.

512
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: They were really having trouble stopping McCaffrey.

513
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,919
Speaker 2: They were and I think they dedicated themselves to that

514
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 2: with hey, Perdy, you beat us if you can and

515
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 2: per again, Perdy played well, but he never made them

516
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 2: die by the blitz. You live by the blitz, you

517
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 2: die by the blitz. He never smoked them over the

518
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 2: top with a you know, great blitz pick up, chuck

519
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 2: one up, debo, beats one on one like. They never

520
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 2: made that big game changing which would change their yards

521
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 2: for play dramatically. The sixty yard er against the Blitz.

522
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 2: They never had that in this game.

523
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean their long past San Francisco is long

524
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 1: pass play in the game was twenty four yards and

525
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 1: that was McCaffrey on the trick play probably the touch Yeah.

526
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

527
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 1: Watched all y all run after the catch.

528
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he just put flat out tricked them and

529
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 2: he's all alone. So another thing I thought or that

530
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 2: I thought of from a Steeler perspective, that I heard

531
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 2: Michael Bardi talking about today. He was saying a problem

532
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 2: with the way the nine defense is constructed, which rarely

533
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 2: shows up in the regular season, but it can as

534
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 2: the season goes on, and certainly in playoff games or

535
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:13,199
Speaker 2: long exhausting games. Is there two D line dependent you know,

536
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 2: like when the D line starts to wear out and

537
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 2: they've been on the field for sixty plays and you

538
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 2: don't have the huge lead, all of a sudden, your

539
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 2: secondary kind of gets exposed, you know. And he kind

540
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 2: of equated to a pitcher. He's like, in the eighth inning,

541
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,200
Speaker 2: you're one hundred and two mile an hour fastballs ninety

542
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 2: five and you don't have a curve or a sinker

543
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 2: or a slider or you know, an offbeat pitch, Like

544
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 2: you have to be able to play defense more than

545
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 2: one way. And I think that's maybe where you start

546
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 2: if you're the Steelers, is how can we be not

547
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 2: only in upper tier defense, which they pretty much were,

548
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 2: but how can we play it any way you want?

549
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 2: You know, we can play man, we can play zone,

550
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 2: we can stop the run. We're not too reliant on

551
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 2: one aspect of our team.

552
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think that's one thing that you look

553
00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 1: at as we head into this offseason. One of the

554
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 1: big reasons why they need to continue to upgrade the secondary.

555
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: The front, the front seven is quite good, quite good,

556
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: the back you know, the back four. You need to

557
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,479
Speaker 1: continue to add players to that. You know, it's two

558
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: years ago.

559
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 2: We saw in this case for anybody, but you lose

560
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 2: a great player, like what boy, the defense really suffered.

561
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 2: But this year, if what wasn't in the game, the

562
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 2: splits weren't unbelievably different, you know, like you could survive

563
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 2: not having your fast play.

564
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 1: I mean, they played without Cam Hayward for a long stretch.

565
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 1: They played without makeup fits Patrick at times like.

566
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 2: Not to mention the depth they had to dig into

567
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 2: at linebacker and safety at times too, so they showed

568
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 2: they could adapt when bad things happened and not get sunk.

569
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 2: You know, it's not gonna be as good as whenever

570
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 2: went at their best.

571
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: Or really we talked about it when we were picking

572
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 1: the game. I think we both thought the forty nine

573
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: Ers had the better overall team. Yes, but Kansas City

574
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: has Mahomes.

575
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, just couldn't pick it against my Homes.

576
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think know. And again this was an even

577
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 1: football game.

578
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 2: It was one of my logics of picking the Chiefs too,

579
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 2: in is very Mahomes and been there, done it related.

580
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 2: I thought the Chiefs would be the better team in

581
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 2: the first quarter, the better team in the fourth quarter.

582
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 2: Who knows in the middle? Well, I think I was

583
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 2: right about the fourth quarter. But I definitely was wrong

584
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 2: about the first quarter. But the Niners didn't hurt it

585
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 2: bad enough, right, you know.

586
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 1: I mean when the Kansas City turned the ball over,

587
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: they didn't take advantage of it. No, And they had

588
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: the interception at the beginning of the first half or

589
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: the second half, Yeah, was a bad interception by Mahomes.

590
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: And you got the ball at midfield, you have to

591
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: get point to you got to get points. You have to.

592
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: If they score there, I mean even if they make

593
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 1: it thirteen.

594
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 2: To three, it's a big difference.

595
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 1: It's a huge difference. Instead, they get nothing. They punt

596
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: the ball back and it's like, I'm not.

597
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 2: Sure if I quite believe this number, but it's not

598
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 2: too far off. But Profoo Focus had Mahomes with only

599
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 2: one turnover worthy play was that one despite being under

600
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 2: of pressure. I thought there was one or two that

601
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 2: was still advised. But all in all, he wasn't just

602
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 2: chucking and ducking. And you know that one got away

603
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 2: from him and he miss Kelsey or it was just

604
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 2: a bad whatever it was. But you're not gonna get

605
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 2: many from him, and you better get either flip the

606
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,479
Speaker 2: field dramatically, feel position wise if it's deep in your

607
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 2: own end, or at least get three out of it.

608
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: And another time I thought was the Chief's last drive

609
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 2: of the half, knowing that Kansasity was getting the ball

610
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 2: in the second half, I turned to my son, I'm like,

611
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 2: the Chiefs get points here. I think I'm live betting

612
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 2: them at the half. I don't care what happens. It's

613
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 2: just that you know you win the that that eight

614
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 2: minute stretch at the end of half, and in the

615
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 2: beginning of the half, you give read the whole halftime,

616
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 2: the game plan.

617
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, even extended halftime, that's.

618
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 2: What I mean. Right, they're scripting plays back there and

619
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 2: getting ivs and you know, right, it's like, this is

620
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 2: pivotal and Kansasity just getting three there with their last

621
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 2: possession in the first half is like, Okay, you.

622
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: Know, you kind of the ship a little bit.

623
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, they took a bunch of punches, but they're still

624
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 2: standing and you should have knocked them out.

625
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm with you. I just think you know,

626
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 1: you could overcome. It. Kind of plays to what you know,

627
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 1: the Steelers' philosophy was going into this season. We don't

628
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: want our quarterbacks turning the ball over. If you don't

629
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: turn the ball over, you play good defense, you run

630
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: the football, you're going to be in pretty much every

631
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 1: football game.

632
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 2: Sure, I mean, what's this game going? Like you said,

633
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 2: there's so many games even if there's blowouts become blowouts

634
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 2: because you're down twenty nothing and then you're playing left

635
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 2: handed and all these things so hypothetical. On the first drive,

636
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: if McCaffrey doesn't fumble they at least get three there

637
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 2: on the opening drive, you know, I mean, and then

638
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: see the Chips land where they may but they were

639
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 2: the better team at that point and walked away with.

640
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: Zero at that point. Yeah, that's that's where it hurts. Yeah,

641
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: you know, even if you think back to some of

642
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: the Steeler losses this season, the Houston game, sixteen to six,

643
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: it ends up thirty to six, but it was sixteen

644
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: to six late in the third quarter. Yeah, it was

645
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: there to win. If if you don't start making the mistakes,

646
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: then the snowballs and then and then the snow blows

647
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: even tho you know, I know they didn't do anything

648
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: in the first half against against San Francisco and the opener.

649
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: You got to get some stops in there.

650
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 2: But but once it gets away from it, once it

651
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: gets away from yeah, exactly. And that's that's a good

652
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: thing about the Chiefs too, is they've been always really

653
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 2: good at not letting things get away when when they

654
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 2: don't play their A game, which they didn't. I only

655
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: think they played their A game yesterday on offense. Sure,

656
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: defense played pretty well, but you still were in it.

657
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 2: You know, you're still standing in the ring, You're still

658
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 2: taking your lumps, but you know it wasn't your a game.

659
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, And if you look at that that Chiefs team

660
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: from a from a Chiefs perspective, two solid cornerbacks go

661
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: a long way towards, you know, playing playing defense.

662
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 2: In this league, the way the secondary played in general

663
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 2: was massive and mcduffy and sneed, I assume that's what

664
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 2: you're referring to. I mean, that's humongous. And you know,

665
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 2: a star up front, and you know their defense can

666
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 2: do a lot of things too. They have a fastball,

667
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,719
Speaker 2: they have a slider, they you know, they can do

668
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 2: whatever you want. And I think that was pivotal real quick.

669
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 2: I thought in the Niners playoff run, this was probably

670
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 2: the game they played best. But it's only when they lost.

671
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: You know.

672
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes it's how it goes. It's a close game.

673
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 2: But they might have got a little lucky against Green

674
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: Bay and Detroit a little unlucky here. But it's all

675
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 2: everyone remembers, you know, No Shanahan's a loser or bottle,

676
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 2: you know.

677
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: Like yeah, So I mean that's that's where everything stands here.

678
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: We'll see. Well, we got basically the next three months

679
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: or so for teams to start maneuvering and changing the

680
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: lineups and adding. That's the one thing that I look

681
00:30:54,440 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: at with the Steelers going into this offseason, if you

682
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: look at pretty much all the other teams around the league.

683
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: And we'll get more into this. Actually, somebody put out

684
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: a power rankings post Super Bowl is on ESPN. Did

685
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: the Steelers are going to be able to add much

686
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: more than they lose to? They could come They could

687
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: roll the same starting lineup back out next year if

688
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: they so choose other than other than Levi Wallace. Okay,

689
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: it's the only guy who was a quote unquote starter

690
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: who's an unrestricted free agent. Yeah, outside of that, they

691
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: could run it back.

692
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 2: They could run the exact same group out.

693
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: But they'll get an opportunity to add to it.

694
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're going to upgrade it a couple

695
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: spots or at least on paper.

696
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: Gum. Yeah. Great. We'll see how they work out, of course.

697
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: But that's I bet they're one of the few teams

698
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 2: and I'm sure they're the only playoff team that could

699
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: say that.

700
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: Like when you look at, for example, Pro Football Focus

701
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: put out of the thing and last week potential franchise

702
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: candidates for each for each team. Yeah, there's none. For

703
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: the Steelers, there's nobody that's going to be a free

704
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: agent that you would even think about franchising because none

705
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: of them are quote unquote important enough to do that.

706
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 2: With not a big enough loss.

707
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,719
Speaker 1: It's not a big enough loss that you would look

708
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: to to use that kind of cap.

709
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 2: City has two clear ones on defense, right.

710
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: And they're gonna lose guys. They're gonna lose at least.

711
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: One of those guys, I would assume, So I assume.

712
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: So you know, the same thing with Baltimore, the same

713
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: thing with Cleveland. Cincinnati's going to lose guys. These teams

714
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: are all going to lose people.

715
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's really hard to be a winning team

716
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 2: in this league. And that's how it's constructed to gain

717
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 2: more in the offseason than you lose. And I think

718
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: everyone listening will say, are going to gain more of

719
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 2: this offseason than they you would think.

720
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: So, yeah, I mean they they're gonna have an opportunity.

721
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: They are going to be calculated.

722
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: Alan Robinson's not worth the money, right, Boom, He's gone,

723
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 2: you know, right, So those are losses you had, you

724
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 2: knew were coming.

725
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: Anyways, Yeah, there are adjustments that you can make that

726
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: you want to make. Yeah, you don't have to make.

727
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 2: You don't have to make like, oh man, we're losing Jones.

728
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: We have to draft the defensive tackle in the first

729
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 2: round because we can't go get one off Street or

730
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 2: you know whatever.

731
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: But so, I mean I expect a better if everything

732
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,959
Speaker 1: works out the way and nothing ever does. But if

733
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: your off season moves are calculated in the correct way,

734
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: the Steelers should be a better team in twenty twenty

735
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: four than they were in twenty twenty three.

736
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this should definitely be the case. When

737
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 2: camp opens, they should have a better roster than when

738
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty three season ended. Yeah, I mean, there's

739
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 2: no excuse they don't, right, I mean they should, like

740
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 2: since he might not be able to say that they

741
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 2: might have a new right tackle, tight end, third receiver,

742
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 2: and nose tackle. You know that they're all just throw

743
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 2: a players and corner, you know. I mean, I'm talking

744
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 2: does free agents they have you know.

745
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: Well, let's go over that power rankings, all right. When

746
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,479
Speaker 1: we get back. He is the Matt Williams and I'm

747
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: Dale Allie. You're listening to the drive here on Steelers

748
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: Nation Radio. We will be back with more right after this. Hey,

749
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,200
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755
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Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly, and you're

756
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 1: listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. And

757
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:14,959
Speaker 1: I referenced the ESPN early NFL Power rankings for twenty

758
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: twenty early, very early.

759
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: Early, very early, not doing it justice.

760
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: So you want to start this from the top or

761
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: the bottom that started the garbage? Okay, And here's the thing.

762
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: We just saw the Houston Texans.

763
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: They would have been like thirty two.

764
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: They were. If they weren't thirty two, they were.

765
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: Thirty Arizona had been there, I mean, right, but Houston

766
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 2: would be at the bottom.

767
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 1: So at thirty two is Carolina And.

768
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: We obviously didn't even know CJ. Stroud was going to

769
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 2: be a textant at that point. Or you know, right,

770
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 2: Carolina has to be thirty.

771
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: Now you have a first run draft.

772
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 2: That's the thing is that their ability to get better

773
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 2: is a little limited. They do cap space, so they

774
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: happen to mention cap space or any of the not

775
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 2: really okay, but their roster stinks.

776
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 1: At thirty one is Washington.

777
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 2: Tend to agree, Yeah, tend to agree. Defense was so bad.

778
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 2: But at least they have a lot of picks. I mean,

779
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 2: you talk about team, it's going to look a lot

780
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 2: different though. I mean, they're gonna have a new quarterback.

781
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 2: They have those picks from the Sweat and Chase Young trade,

782
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 2: and they pick early on their own and they have

783
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: a ton of caps face.

784
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: So but the Chase Young Sweat trades was what a

785
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: second and a third?

786
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 2: I think?

787
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, okay, you can.

788
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: I'm just saying you got extra. I think they have

789
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 2: four Day two picks.

790
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think there are more than one draft way.

791
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,359
Speaker 2: Though, I don't think they're the don't get me wrong,

792
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 2: but at least their team will look a lot better.

793
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. At thirty are the Patriots.

794
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 2: They at least have a ton of caps face and

795
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: they pick early for the first time in forever.

796
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: Twenty nine are the Cardinals. They still need a lot. Yeah.

797
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: They By the way, I just want the reminder, but

798
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury did not win in college with Patrick Mahomes

799
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: just dried that home a little bit, a little bit

800
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: more there. At twenty eight, the Tennessee Titans.

801
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 2: Might be lower on them.

802
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: They could be a team that is finds itself at

803
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 1: thirty at some.

804
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 2: Point next season. Yeah, they could. You know, like, I

805
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: have mixed feelings on Levis. I didn't like him coming

806
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 2: out of school. He flashed some good, some bad, but

807
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: I think I'd rather take chances with Drake may Or.

808
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 2: There's a lot on that roster that yeah, exactly one

809
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 2: of the teams we mentioned, it's gonna draft one.

810
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: At twenty seven of the Giants.

811
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, they need a lot of stuff. I mean, all

812
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: these teams really need like ten starters.

813
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: At twenty six of the Falcons, I.

814
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 2: Kind of differ on that one. If they can figure

815
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 2: out something at quarterback, I think they'll compete in that division,

816
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 2: maybe win ten games.

817
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: The problem is that division might all be in the twenties.

818
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean it's bad.

819
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's bad. But their defense was noticeably improved and

820
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 2: they got players on offense.

821
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: At twenty five are the Chargers. Yeah, they're gonna go backwards.

822
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: They might they might be lower than that.

823
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 2: They might be lower in that, I mean justin Herbert. Yeah,

824
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 2: we've talked about.

825
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: This a lot, but four point two million dollars over

826
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:02,439
Speaker 1: the salary kit, are they really?

827
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 2: It's that's the thing.

828
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 1: And even releasing some of those guys, that's really It's

829
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 1: not like you can release two guys and okay, we're

830
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: under the cap, two dead beats and we don't know

831
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: because they're the cap. Hits are so high in the

832
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 1: in the money, the dead money is so high, and

833
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: you're gonna need to release like five just to get

834
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: to fifty four million and have a.

835
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: Ton of dead dead Caps fan.

836
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and you don't have the players. You know.

837
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: We just finished last segment talking about how it'll be

838
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 2: a crime if the Steelers roster isn't better to start

839
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: next season as it is to finish this one. The

840
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 2: Chargers almost have no chance of that happening.

841
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: None.

842
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, except for Herbert being healthy.

843
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: At twenty four the Raiders, I still think that's a

844
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: bad roster.

845
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 2: And I know Pierce is a great story. I hope

846
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 2: it works out for him. But I wonder if he's

847
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 2: a head coach, you know what I mean, Like he's

848
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 2: only been coaching like three or four years period as

849
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 2: as a player, not long.

850
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: If you could coach, so you can coach, if you

851
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: can command the room he does. I said, he's got

852
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: a tougher task than people. Yeah. At twenty three the Broncos,

853
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: where's their bread and butter anymore? They don't have a quarterback?

854
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 2: I mean, who are their stars besides certain they get

855
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 2: some okay players, but not great. At twenty two the Saints, yeah,

856
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 2: pretty old.

857
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: They're pretty old.

858
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see that roster looking a little different.

859
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: At twenty one Chicago.

860
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 2: I think they're looking at Chicago saying they got two

861
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 2: early picks, a lot of cap space. Maybe fields turns

862
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 2: into more the grass is greener. Yeah, yeah, you know.

863
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: They could be this year's Texans could be. Yeah.

864
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see that.

865
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: The division isn't yeah, I mean.

866
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 2: Isn't all that brutal. Conference isn't all that brutal. It

867
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: actually looks like the NFC is getting some young quarterbacks

868
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 2: infused in their side.

869
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: Finally, Yeah, you know, twenty is Minnesota.

870
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 2: I could see that. I think Cousins was back, and

871
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 2: they try to take another shot, probably win eight or

872
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 2: nine games again, Yeah, you know, mediocre.

873
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: But defense isn't very talented. No, at nineteen Seattle, I.

874
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 2: Might have them higher. But is Gino is what he

875
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 2: is at this point too?

876
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: Maybe? Yeah? Probably? Could they be a sneaky team to

877
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: go get a quarterback draft one?

878
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 2: I mean I could see trading up. Yeah, if they

879
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 2: happen to love.

880
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: Him, you get a new head coach in there. It's

881
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: not he's not marry he's Gino Smith, Like okay.

882
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I almost feel like it's a crime if they

883
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 2: don't draft one at least like in the first two

884
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 2: rounds picks or you know, Nicks or somebody like that.

885
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 2: And I bet they were going to. I said this

886
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 2: last year, like I was kind of wrong about one.

887
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 2: I think I'm kind of wrong right about the other.

888
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 2: But the Lions and the Seahawks last year had extra

889
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 2: picks because of the Wilson and Stafford trades, and they're

890
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 2: rolling with Goff at this point and Gino, both of

891
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 2: whom were coming off decent years, and I thought, this

892
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 2: is your opportunity, you should draft one. And the Lions

893
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 2: drafted hooker, which who knows if that's gonna work out

894
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 2: or not, and GoF looks bad than I thought, But

895
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 2: it just seemed like a golden opportunity for Seattle to

896
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 2: You got these extra picks, maybe not with the Witherspoon pick,

897
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 2: but land somebody. Yeah, have somebody waiting in the wings.

898
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: At eighteen the Steelers, I'd probably put him higher than that.

899
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: They got to be higher than that.

900
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 2: I'm sure. The whole paragraphs about the quarterback, Yeah.

901
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure find a quarterback if Kenny Pickett goes out

902
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: and plays in twenty twenty four the same way that

903
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: he did in twenty twenty three. You went seven and

904
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: five with Kenny Pickett playing like that.

905
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 2: He was seven and five as a starter.

906
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: He was seven and five in games that he started,

907
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 1: and he was seven and two in games he started

908
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 1: and finished.

909
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 2: Yes, I thought it was better than that and games

910
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 2: he started finished, right, You need more from.

911
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: Him, You need more. I'm not saying it would be acceptable,

912
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying he's fourteen and ten as a

913
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: starter in his career.

914
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 2: Do win games with you? You win game ton, Yeah, yeah,

915
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 2: I hear you. But going to do something a quarterback

916
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 2: in some way, shape or form.

917
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 1: So I mean he's going to be bad to realize.

918
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 2: The supporting cast around him on both sides should be improved. Right,

919
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 2: And it wasn't bad.

920
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 1: No, that's what I'm saying. Eighteen's too low. I don't

921
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:15,919
Speaker 1: know where I would put them out to see who's

922
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: above them here. But again, we just we just talked

923
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: about in the previous segment. Their entire starting lineup is back.

924
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: I mean, probably they're in the bottom two or three

925
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 2: in terms of what they're losing. I would think, I

926
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: would think, you know, I mean I don't know that

927
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 2: for a fact, but of upcoming free agents slashed cap casualties,

928
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: I bet their list is as light as anybody's at seventeen.

929
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 2: Of the Jets, yeah, I mean Rogers is the biggest

930
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 2: wild card on this whole list. Probably, Yeah, And they'd

931
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 2: have been a lot better with Rogers this year.

932
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: It's sixteen Tampa Bay. I can't.

933
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 2: I'd go lower.

934
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: I can't go with Tampa Bay above the Steelers. I

935
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 1: just can't.

936
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: I get the Jets, I get it. Yeah, they can't

937
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 2: put Tampa Bay up there. I'm not sure Baker's a dude.

938
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: He expect him to do it two years in a row,

939
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: and even.

940
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: If he's as good as this year, that's still better

941
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 2: than he's been, but not great.

942
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: And they're probably gonna lose. Like Evans, I think they

943
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: have two or three. They're probably gonna Winnfield Evans. I

944
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: thought they had another name of David. Guys that are

945
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: important to them. White's not as important, but they have some.

946
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: They're gonna they have some brand name dudes. Leaving fifteen

947
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: the Colts, that's a total crapshoot. I don't know. I

948
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: don't know if Anthony Richardson's any good or not.

949
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 2: No, I don't know.

950
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 1: I don't even know if he can finish a football game.

951
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: I kind of like how the rosters construct.

952
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: I don't they don't disagree with that, but I don't

953
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: know if he can finish a football game because he's

954
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: never done it.

955
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 2: I wonder if they do a backup quarterback because Minshew's

956
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 2: up yeah, and I don't know if you run it back.

957
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 2: I'd rather have an athletic that Tyrod Taylor, maybe, but

958
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 2: I wish they had more defensive stardom too. Like Buckner

959
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 2: started to get up in age Leonard's shot. You know,

960
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 2: he's gone, he doesn't really even play anymore. And then

961
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 2: two of their best defensive backs Blackman More both up too.

962
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. I can't get past the I mean, if you

963
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: to put on there, like off season and towards down

964
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: to business, it should be is Richardson good?

965
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Richardson question, more question, morek question.

966
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: Now, if you're going to question the Steelers quarterback situation,

967
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: sure you have to question that one, you do.

968
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: I mean he was really exciting, but coming into being

969
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 2: an athletic rookies exciting period. Yeah, like we knew he

970
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 2: was exciting.

971
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you knew he was an athletic quarterback. He didn't

972
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: show you anything beyond that.

973
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: No, he's got a world of talent, but we need

974
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 2: to see something more. I mean it's a massive, incomplete grade.

975
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: At fourteen is Jacksonville. Yeah, there would be in the

976
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: middle somewhere.

977
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 2: I get it, I get it, I get it. At

978
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: thirteen the Bengals, I think the roster will be worse

979
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 2: than it was, but you get Burrow back, you get burrowback. Yeah. Yeah.

980
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: At twelve the Rams.

981
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: I guess I think think they I know they had

982
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: a ton of dead cap money. I'm assuming they can.

983
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: Add Donald and Stafford aren't getting any younger though.

984
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 2: That's the thing there in cups, not saying cups not

985
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 2: you know you've got in the coup, but the cups

986
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 2: they're all going backwards, if anything, I mean different rates.

987
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 2: But I do think they can actually buy in free

988
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 2: agency for the first time in a little bit. I

989
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 2: think they ate their vegetables this offseason.

990
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, at eleven is great roster. No, No, isn't.

991
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 2: I mean it's not a great roster.

992
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: Eleven is Cleveland. You're still drinking, still drinking the Cleveland

993
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 1: kool aid. Yeah, their questions, they're the off season in

994
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: three words, get Watson right. I don't know if it's possible.

995
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 2: We've seen enough that it's there's a pretty heavily long

996
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:42,720
Speaker 2: ster possible.

997
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett has played more good football games in the

998
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: last two years than Deshaun Watson has.

999
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the cost is obvious. I mean you're not

1000
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 2: getting out of that.

1001
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:53,439
Speaker 1: No.

1002
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're a very volatile team.

1003
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 1: Ten is Green Bay. Mmm.

1004
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 2: I like with that very young, trading the right direction.

1005
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna lose a ton, you know,

1006
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 2: like back to the Army might not be back, but they didn't.

1007
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,479
Speaker 1: They didn't part all year anyway. Ascending quarter. They won't

1008
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: be super aggressive in free agency or anything like that,

1009
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 1: you know, but they're still in the right direction. Nine

1010
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: is the Texans.

1011
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd say they might be kind of aggressive. They

1012
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 2: have a lot of space.

1013
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: Eight is the Eagles. Oh, they might be trending the

1014
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: wrong direction.

1015
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean how much can you count on like

1016
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 2: Sleigh and Bradbury and certainly Fletcher, Cox and Graham.

1017
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: And they get some guys that are getting you.

1018
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 2: Know, Kelsey's gone now, and you know, Lane Johnson is great,

1019
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 2: but he's old.

1020
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,919
Speaker 1: Yeah. Some of those guys who were your your core

1021
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 1: players on a couple of Super Bowl teams are now old.

1022
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you didn't infuse a lot of talent there all

1023
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: of a sudden. I have some hurts questions too. Yeah,

1024
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 2: I mean not that he's good or bad. He's good.

1025
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: They finished one in six, Yeah, one in six, and.

1026
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 2: They have a whole back seven to rebuild. You know,

1027
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 2: they're going to still invest in lines, both lines. Yeah,

1028
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 2: I don't know if the roster will look better next

1029
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 2: year than it.

1030
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: Does this year. Seven is the Cowboys.

1031
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 2: I'm alright with that. They get a couple guys up

1032
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 2: though too. I mean they have Tyron Smith and be

1033
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 2: Addish the center and Gilmore. That's not that difficult to overcome.

1034
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: They get to come up with money though too.

1035
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 2: They got big, they got some big items. They get

1036
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 2: a sign, but that will be their next year. You're

1037
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 2: talking about Parsons and Lamb.

1038
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, and well we assume they will unless they hold

1039
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: off the trade.

1040
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 2: Yeah right. Yeah.

1041
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: At six is Miami.

1042
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 2: Ooh, I don't think so.

1043
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: I don't like the way that build is. They're deep

1044
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: in cap. Yeah, hell right now they're fifty one million

1045
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: dollars over the cap. They are not going to look

1046
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 1: anything close to what they do. This was their year.

1047
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 2: This was their year. No, I think that that's a

1048
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 2: roster going back.

1049
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: I think Cleveland and Miami are kind of in the

1050
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 1: same boat in that regard. Yeah.

1051
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you don't notice it when a team is

1052
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 2: good not great. Yeah, but you can a year or

1053
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 2: two later like, oh yeah, put all your chips in

1054
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 2: and you didn't get there.

1055
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: Uh. At five is Buffalo.

1056
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's still a really good I.

1057
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: Might have usedon ahead a Buffalo. Is it a really

1058
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 1: good roster, a really good quarterback? It's not gonna look,

1059
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,439
Speaker 1: it's not gonna look like it did this year. They're

1060
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna lose way more pieces than.

1061
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 2: What they're saying in I mean, they're never gonna be

1062
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 2: in the Von Miller sweepstakes again.

1063
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: You know, go at a big ticket item. Yeah, is digs.

1064
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 2: A player used to be like, who are the blue

1065
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 2: chippers on that team? Besides a stud quarterback? There's not

1066
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 2: amaze you think, No, I mean the safeties are old.

1067
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: The safeties, I think one of them is not gone. Yeah,

1068
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: you know, they're fifty million dollars over the salary signing.

1069
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 2: They're not signed anybody. They're gonna do their best to

1070
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 2: hang on to a little bit they have and they're

1071
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 2: gonna probably lose. Gave Davis, who isn't great, but you

1072
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 2: got to replace them. And I think the roster's going backwards.

1073
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 2: It's a shame with that quarterback.

1074
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it fors Detroit.

1075
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would go heavy after corner market.

1076
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, they need to upgrade the secondary in a big way.

1077
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 2: But that's a nice way to enter the off season.

1078
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 2: Is let's attack one thing heavy.

1079
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, three in San Francisco.

1080
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're their debts aren't coming paid this year, but

1081
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 2: they're close. Yeah, I mean they have so many big

1082
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 2: ticket items, but Brock Party is a million dollar capit

1083
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 2: next year. Yeah, I mean, so they got another year

1084
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 2: of running it back basically.

1085
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: But you know, does Ayuk say, hey, I'm in the

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Speaker 1: final year my rookie deal here, I want a new contract. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, things like that they come out.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know. I mean a lot of those

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00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 2: dudes are gonna need money soon. Yeah, they've already paid

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Speaker 2: Debot and Trent Williams and Bosa and those guys aren't

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Speaker 2: getting younger. Bosa's not old.

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Speaker 1: But two is Kansas City.

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Speaker 2: It's a great roster defense as constructed yesterday looks really

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Speaker 2: really good. I think they'll lose Snead or.

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Speaker 1: Jones.

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Speaker 2: Jones. But I also heard this this morning, is I

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Speaker 2: guess mahomes is owed a thirty five million dollar bonus

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Speaker 2: here coming up whenever the deadline is. But if they

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Speaker 2: convert that to a signing bone instead of a roster

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00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 2: bonus signing bonus, they could free up thirty ish in

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Speaker 2: cap space.

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Speaker 1: Whatever they have. They're still kicking the can down the road,

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Speaker 1: it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you'd have to go all in on

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Speaker 2: snead An Jones. You could probably make it work, but

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Speaker 2: then you're done.

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Speaker 1: Then you're done. You can't do anything else.

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Speaker 2: And then you're not getting the tackles or another receiver.

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Speaker 2: You know, you give it or draft Well, now, my

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Speaker 2: homes carries a lot of weight though, and.

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Speaker 1: That leaves Baltimore at number one. Were about what they're

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Speaker 1: They got twenty five unrestricted free agents and a lot

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Speaker 1: of starters, twenty five, including fifteen who play at least

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Speaker 1: two hundred snaps this season. Yeah, all right, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: lose way more than they gained.

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Speaker 2: Just off the top of my head. Good buzzing through

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Speaker 2: their roster. They're great at quarterback, but they're backups either

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Speaker 2: gonna get paid or gone.

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Speaker 1: So what Okay, they don't have any running back.

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Speaker 2: Running backs are shot, tight ends awesome great receivers or

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Speaker 2: now minus Odell, so you better at a third round.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna figure out if you're gonna pay Bateman or not,

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Speaker 1: which you're probably not.

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Speaker 2: Probably not right, so you better draft one reasonably high.

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Speaker 1: Again. But the offensive line, I can't imagine they bring

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Speaker 1: Ronnie Stanley back at what.

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Speaker 2: He costs, and Moses is expensive and old, and I

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Speaker 2: think one of the guards might be up.

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Speaker 1: Zeitler, I think so. Yeah, Zeitler's up, so you got

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Speaker 1: to replace him.

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Speaker 2: Linderbaum's fine D line looks okay, but you're Matta, Bouquet, Clowney,

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Speaker 2: and van Ney are all up, I think, and they

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Speaker 2: were your best guys. Queen's up is an every down,

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Speaker 2: second level player, and Stone, who played a ton is up.

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Speaker 2: And I think they might cut. I don't think they're

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Speaker 2: going to cut Marlin Humphrey, but I think he's a

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Speaker 2: huge cap hit.

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Speaker 1: He may be structured or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so the chance of being better than it was,

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Speaker 2: I think he's slim and none. It's a good roster,

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Speaker 2: it's a really good.

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Speaker 1: It's a good roster right now, but it's not going

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Speaker 1: to be a good roster three months from now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I bet that they lose. They're definitely

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Speaker 2: gonna lose more than the gain.

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Speaker 1: And they're not picking und Oh, by the way, you

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Speaker 1: lost your defensive coordinator, you lost your defensive line coach.

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Speaker 1: I mean they lost quite a bit. It's a price

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Speaker 1: of success.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Anyways, let's get to a break here. We're a little overdue.

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Speaker 1: He is the Matt Williamson I'm Dale Lowlly. You're listening

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