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Speaker 1: nearly four hundred. Just got this letter that was well,

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Speaker 1: it's a story that was broken by Adam Schefter and

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Speaker 1: it has to do with Kyler Murray. Now, I do

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Speaker 1: find it interesting that we receive this at eight forty

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Speaker 1: so we get a lot of run all the morning shows,

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Speaker 1: and Kyler Murray's agent release this, or at least somebody

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Speaker 1: released this to Adam Schefter. But this is about eight

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Speaker 1: paragraphs and it has to do with Kyler Murray and

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Speaker 1: his future with the Arizona Cardinals. Well, as I suspected

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Speaker 1: deleting all of the references on the social media with

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, and I went, somebody wants to get

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Speaker 1: paid a year earlier. Maybe looks at Josh Allen goes, well,

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Speaker 1: they took care of him. I've been to two Pro Bowls.

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Speaker 1: You know we weren't any good then I came in here.

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Speaker 1: Now we're a playoff caliber team. I want to get paid.

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Speaker 1: Are they Are they all in on me? Now? This

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Speaker 1: is what it feels like. Now I'm gonna I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: paraphrase this, but it's basically through his agent, Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: is saying, Hey, I'm committed to you. Are you committed

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Speaker 1: to me? I want to be going to Super Bowls.

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Speaker 1: I'm committed. I want you to commit to me now

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Speaker 1: this morning. Now they don't have to do it until

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Speaker 1: next year. So he wants market value, Well what is

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Speaker 1: market value? Market value now as opposed to next year?

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Speaker 1: And this feels it's a money it's a money grab.

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Speaker 1: And we thought this from the beginning. But if you're

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Speaker 1: would say no, we're committed to you. Look at the

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Speaker 1: team we build around you. This is where you go

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Speaker 1: the court of public opinion. Kyler Murray's committed to the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals or the Cardinals committed to him? Question Mark, Well

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Speaker 1: they are? Look at what they did. You know they

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Speaker 1: got DeAndre Hopkins. Chandler Jones, J. J. Watt like they tried.

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Speaker 1: You know, they just got a coach who doesn't win

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Speaker 1: in the second half of seasons no matter where he's coaching.

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Speaker 1: But they're improving, They're just not to the point where

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Speaker 1: Murray played well this year, not great, played well this

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Speaker 1: year and this just feels like it's a money grab here,

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Speaker 1: and we want to get paid a year early, which okay,

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Speaker 1: I understand it, but the team doesn't. That's why you

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Speaker 1: have contracts. If he didn't play well, what if the

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Speaker 1: to you. You know, it goes both ways here. Baker Mayfield, Hey,

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Speaker 1: Jackson's been an MVP. You know, Patrick Mahomes had won

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Speaker 1: he got a paid a year early. Now, if Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray wants to go and I'll give you a team

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Speaker 1: friendly deal, how about you commit to them and say,

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Speaker 1: how about a team friendly deal. They'll commit to you,

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Speaker 1: you commit to them. He's gonna want fifty million dollars

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Speaker 1: a year yeah, Seed, does this letter land maybe the

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Speaker 1: public opinion, not with people who are smart enough to

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Speaker 1: Notes version of this is this team was nothing before

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Speaker 1: Kyler got here, and now you pay it. Now you

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Speaker 1: essentially what he's saying. But they did build around him.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like they said, hey, Kyler, you go out

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Speaker 1: a different ending to this season for Arizona. But this

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Speaker 1: just feels like, let's release this. Leak this at eight

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Speaker 1: going to pick up on this, and here's Kyler. Kyler

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Speaker 1: wants to be here. You know, it's it's a slow day,

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Speaker 1: Like what is the big topic today? Now it is now?

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Speaker 1: You know, baseball. You could talk about the lockout, but

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Speaker 1: you know, people don't want to hear about labor pains.

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Speaker 1: They want to see the baby they don't care about

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Speaker 1: this Kyler Murray. Now he's kind of you know, he

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Speaker 1: put the Cardinals on blast, as the kids like to say. Yes,

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Speaker 1: they refer to Kyler as quote rapidly improving. Those aren't

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Speaker 1: the words that like, hey, I'm getting better, So now

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Speaker 1: give me fifty million dollars a year, because look, I'm

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Speaker 1: getting better every year. What well, you just like you guys,

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Speaker 1: solid and solid and improving. Yeah, nobody handed this fifty

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Speaker 1: mill No they did not. Yeah, yes, Polly, and you

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Speaker 1: don't even have to read behind the lines. They have

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Speaker 1: taken a lot of shots of the history of the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: They said, he rose them from a three win team

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Speaker 1: three plus years. There's a lot of specific stats about

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Speaker 1: where the Cardinals were before he arrived and since they

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Speaker 1: got there. Yeah, it's some money grab, I understand it.

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Speaker 1: But you know that doesn't mean the Cardinals have to

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Speaker 1: acquiesce to him. But this is definitely a hey, let's

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Speaker 1: with this. I mean, they may run in a different

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Speaker 1: direction than I am, but this is Kyler. You performed,

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Speaker 1: You're the number one pick in the draft. We were

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Speaker 1: We brought in the coach that you wanted to play for.

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Speaker 1: We brought in some stars, maybe aging stars, We brought

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Speaker 1: trying to win. I understand that. Do I want to

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Speaker 1: pay Kyler Murray fifty million dollars a year? And I'm

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Speaker 1: I mean that's that's that's the going rate for a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Forty five million, fifty million. No, not a year early,

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Speaker 1: because then I would say to Kyler, look, we'd like

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Speaker 1: to spend that money and get you better players and

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Speaker 1: then you can have a career year and then you're

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Speaker 1: going to be even more valuable. Or if you want

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Speaker 1: to give us a team friendly deal, how about that,

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Speaker 1: Like we commit to you, you commit to us. How

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Speaker 1: about you meet us halfway? That's what I would be

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Speaker 1: some of this language that is not on the table.

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Speaker 1: I don't think team friendly because he says right here,

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Speaker 1: it's like, uh yeah, should they choose to prioritize their

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Speaker 1: rapidly improving twenty four year old, already two time prow

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Speaker 1: his arrival to eleven wins and their first playoff appearance,

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Speaker 1: or they can choose to financially prioritize committing to other areas.

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Speaker 1: And he basically says, you give him all the money

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Speaker 1: and don't worry about everybody else. Yeah, it's like literally

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Speaker 1: says that, And it says Kyler desperately wants to win

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl. How many guys would you say desperately

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Speaker 1: don't want to win a super Bowl? Like? How many

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Speaker 1: starting quarterbacks in the NFL? Go? I don't know, you know,

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Speaker 1: how about a playoff appearance? May it'd be nice, but

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Speaker 1: it's not the most important. No, no, get to a

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Speaker 1: second round. But having fifty million dollars a year, that

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Speaker 1: sounds I like that better. Yeah, Paul, you know what

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Speaker 1: he said, rapidly improving quarterback, that's not factually true. Twenty touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: twenty six touchdowns, twenty four touchdowns. Basically eleven picks a year.

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Speaker 1: His running stats are about the same. They're very good

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Speaker 1: running stats, but he is not rapidly improving. His quarterback

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Speaker 1: why there's this need that we always look at. Well,

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Speaker 1: some economic sanity, then you know you just wait, just say, look,

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Speaker 1: we'll be committed to you. But I would put it

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Speaker 1: to you a year early. How about that get back

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Speaker 1: to us, we are committed to you. You're the one

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Speaker 1: that deleted all references to the Arizona Cardinals. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: like he was this scapegoat that goes along with the territory.

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Speaker 1: That's called being mature and understanding. You are the leader,

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Speaker 1: the number one pick, You're expected to be great, and

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Speaker 1: question we're going with there today? Setan Well, Dan, you've

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Speaker 1: poll questions, or Todd's poll questions. Oh, come on, is

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Speaker 1: it because we just came back from vacation. Now everybody's

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Speaker 1: a poll question. Marvin, do you have a poll question today? Efforting? Okay,

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, thank you. What do you here?

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Speaker 1: Why don't we start off with one of Paul's most

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Speaker 1: entertaining athlete in all of sports, Steph Curry, Patrick Mahomes, others.

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Speaker 1: is just killing it. He's getting there. Yeah, he's getting there.

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Speaker 1: he's not more entertaining than Steph Curry is. Yet he's

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Speaker 1: a different version of you got to see this guy play?

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Speaker 1: All right? What else do you have? Let's go for

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Speaker 1: a one from the toddler. Here should home fans boo

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Speaker 1: if their team is playing poorly? Absolutely let them have it? No,

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Speaker 1: how does that help? Oh the Lakers? Uh they lost

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Speaker 1: Does the booing like, you know, pretty pretty loud, especially

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Speaker 1: car Wash. You know, now Troy is gonna be on

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Speaker 1: Get Up, and he's gonna be on Pardon the interruption,

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Speaker 1: and he's gonna be on radio shows. Now it's different.

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Speaker 1: And I told this to Charles Barkley, and I told

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Speaker 1: it to Steve Young. If you go to ESPN, you

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Speaker 1: have to understand how ESPN is going to use you.

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00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: Whereas Fox. I think Troy just does the games, that's it.

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Speaker 1: And then you got Thursday Night. What's going to happen

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Speaker 1: there is Al Michael is going to do Thursday Night. Well,

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Speaker 1: he's not gonna get Sean McVay. I like how Sean

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Speaker 1: McVay waited what ten days to tell us that, of

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Speaker 1: course he's not going to take a broadcasting job. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna guess he probably said to the Rams, I might

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Speaker 1: be taking that broadcasting job because you know what, they're

435
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Speaker 1: gonna pay me twice what you guys are paying me.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, you want Arenda Go okay, I'm not interested

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Speaker 1: in a broadcasting job. At least that's what I was

438
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Speaker 1: told that. Sean was curious about it, but probably used

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Speaker 1: it his leverage to get a new deal with the Rams. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: not to get two inside television. Okay, but if you're ESPN,

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Speaker 1: why are you going to throw a ton of money

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Speaker 1: into the Monday night football booth when you're also splitting

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Speaker 1: your audience with the Manning Cast. I know, I know,

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Speaker 1: I agree. You know, That's why I until I talked

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Speaker 1: to Troy, you know, I'd be curious. Okay, you got

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Speaker 1: whatever four million, six million a year more, and that's

447
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Speaker 1: a lot of money, but you also have the Manning

448
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Speaker 1: Cast forever, you know, for we don't know how long.

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Speaker 1: They just resigned them, and so people are gonna be

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Speaker 1: watching that as well. I don't know. Fox was just standalone.

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Speaker 1: You always got great games, always, and he wanted to

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Speaker 1: be paid. You know. He probably looks at Tony Romo

453
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Speaker 1: and says, you just got into business and you're getting

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Speaker 1: eighteen million dollars a year. And really it started with

455
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Speaker 1: Tony Romo. Tony Romo came in on fire and everybody

456
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Speaker 1: had to have a Tony Romo. Hey, you got to

457
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Speaker 1: predict a plays collins Worth probably, when are you kidding me?

458
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: I've been doing this for decades. I win the Sports

459
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Speaker 1: Emmy every year. Troy probably looking at that, I do

460
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Speaker 1: Super Bowls. This guy comes in, they didn't win any

461
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Speaker 1: Super Bowls. They're gonna give eighteen million dollars a year,

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Speaker 1: and then the analyst and now the play by play guys.

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Speaker 1: And this is what's happening. It's it's like the broadcasting portal,

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Speaker 1: transfer portal, you know that we have with you know,

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Speaker 1: college players, That's what you have with broadcasters. You're entering

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Speaker 1: the transfer portal. Al Michael is going to transfer. Maybe

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Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football, maybe the Mothership. Maybe Joe Buck you know,

468
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Speaker 1: you know, gets in the transfer portal a year early. Yeah, Poling,

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Speaker 1: you know, fifth year seniors in the transfer porter what's

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Speaker 1: al Michael's like a seventy fifth year senior. He still

471
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Speaker 1: got his fastball. Yeah. Here's the big curveball on this

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Speaker 1: is that Jeff Bezos, the world's richest human, is involved

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Speaker 1: now and he answers to nobody there is you know,

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Speaker 1: like I'm sure there's a board of directors for Amazon

475
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Speaker 1: and stuff like that, but it seems like Jeff Bezos

476
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Speaker 1: can just cut checks. And that's where you know, maybe

477
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Speaker 1: a Herb streets using that, maybe Trey Akman's using that.

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Speaker 1: But you have a new player in town that's got

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Speaker 1: unlimited funds. But if that's the case, then you don't

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Speaker 1: let Troy Aikman go to ESPN. I mean, if you

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Speaker 1: you want that Thursday Night, you can outspend ESPN. You

482
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Speaker 1: could buy ESPN. But I think with Thursday Night Football,

483
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Speaker 1: you know, they're they're looking at Sean Payton and he

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Speaker 1: might be part of the pregame show, maybe not, you know,

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Speaker 1: the analyst in a game. And I could see Sean

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Speaker 1: more as an analyst in a game because I want

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Speaker 1: to get in. I want I want to be inside

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Speaker 1: a beautiful mind when they're telling you about a game,

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Speaker 1: and Sean is, you know, credited with being an offensive genius.

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Speaker 1: There's also talk that maybe Drew Brees would be one

491
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Speaker 1: of those guys, although his star has fallen a little

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Speaker 1: bit with NBC, certainly when he did a game with

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Speaker 1: Mike Tarico. But like, I don't know what the networks.

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Speaker 1: I'm not involved in any of this, but I'm just

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Speaker 1: curious pregame show, what are you going to do? On Amazon?

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Speaker 1: And then Thursday Night? Who are you bringing in? Because

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Speaker 1: if you're bringing in Troy Aikman, I'm assuming you're bringing

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Speaker 1: in either Joe Buck or al Michaels. I'm assuming that

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Speaker 1: Thursday Night. I'm curious what they're gonna do with the

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Speaker 1: actual broadcast, because if you can get Al, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Al is still he's great, but I want to see

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Speaker 1: and Al can make the analysts even better. But I

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Speaker 1: want to see who they're going to pair him with.

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Speaker 1: And I know that there's talk of Greg Olson, who

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Speaker 1: has shown signs of being good. And you know who

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Speaker 1: was elevated at Fox. You know, Kevin Burkhardt is a

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Speaker 1: name that probably will emerge here. If Joe buck leaves

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Speaker 1: just Fox, let Joe Buck out in a year early

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Speaker 1: to go to the Mother's Ship? Does that improve ESPN

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Speaker 1: from people's like people have this adverse reaction. It seems

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Speaker 1: like with Joe Buck that's a big time voice and

512
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Speaker 1: he's a great broadcaster, but it just feels like Joe sometimes,

513
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Speaker 1: you know, he's a necessary evil to some people, like okay,

514
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Speaker 1: but he's still great at what he does. He just

515
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Speaker 1: seems to rub people some people the wrong way. But

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Speaker 1: the Mothership has always struggled with Monday night football, and

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Speaker 1: I didn't like what it was this year. It was

518
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Speaker 1: a nice, clean broadcast and and if I didn't want that,

519
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: I got the manning. So I got really two combined

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Speaker 1: into one, and this is an inexpensive booth. Now they

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Speaker 1: blew that out of the water because now Herb Street's

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00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: gonna go, wait, you're playing, You're paying Troy Aikman. What

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Speaker 1: now Herbie's like, uh, maybe Amazon's interested in Kirk curb Street. Okay, yeah, see.

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Speaker 1: But there's the one thing about Joe Buck too. Though

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Speaker 1: you're talking about the sort of love him or hate

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Speaker 1: him kind of quality, it just speaks to how big

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Speaker 1: his voice is. Because after that, the guys say the

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Speaker 1: people that may take his place at Fox right, and

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Speaker 1: this I don't mean to be disrespectful, but they're kind

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Speaker 1: of like, okay, take them, relieve them, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. It's like, oh, okay, you don't have any

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Speaker 1: type of reaction to them one way or the other,

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Speaker 1: whether it's overly positive or overly negative. It's just sort

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Speaker 1: of like, oh, okay, that's it. Yeah. But if the

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Speaker 1: game is good, I watch that's all. I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to tune in because Joe Buck and Troy Aikman are

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Speaker 1: doing a game. I may stay longer, but I am

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Speaker 1: tuning in to see the game itself. How many times

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Speaker 1: have you tuned in for a game and you go,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay like Dick Vital might be one of

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Speaker 1: those guys. John Madden was one of those guys. Al

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Speaker 1: Michaels when he's doing the game is one of those guys.

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Speaker 1: But but how many broadcasters do you go, oh, oh,

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Speaker 1: he's doing it. I'm gonna watch ye see. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it's necessarily that you watch for them, but

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Speaker 1: when they're there, it feels like a bigger game. Yes,

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Speaker 1: they're broadcasters who do games, and that doesn't feel like

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Speaker 1: it's as big of a game as it should be. Yes, Ton,

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Speaker 1: have you ever experienced it the other way where you're like,

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Speaker 1: I've been looking forward to this game, but why does

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Speaker 1: that team doing that game that's not you. Yeah, I'm

552
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Speaker 1: not gonna name names, but there were times when I'm like,

553
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Speaker 1: well wait, you just know anybody under the bus like that.

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Speaker 1: But there are times where I'm like, I thought this

555
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: game was a little bit bigger of a deal, baby,

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Speaker 1: because it was a Bronco game and every game is

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Speaker 1: a big game. But I'm like those guys, I'm okay, yeah, Paul,

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Speaker 1: I guess that's the thing. The bigger thing I don't

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Speaker 1: understand here. Why do you pay uh Tony Romo or

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Speaker 1: anyone seventeen or eighteen million dollars if they don't affect ratings.

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Speaker 1: It feels like, collectively, we don't turn on a game

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Speaker 1: or off a game because of the play by play man.

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Speaker 1: We we liked the experience better. But I've never turned

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Speaker 1: a game off or even stayed with him. I'll stay

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Speaker 1: for Al Michaels in a blowout. Guess he's fun. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so that's an expert. That's that. But we know Al, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and so we like we love listening to Al tell

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Speaker 1: those stories. Yeah. I don't know if I I remember

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Speaker 1: growing up that I did listen, but I remember listening

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Speaker 1: on radio. It felt like if Vince Scully, if Jack Brickhouse,

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Speaker 1: Harry Carey, Marty Brennaman and Joe nuxall calling the Reds games,

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Speaker 1: like I would stay with radio more than I would

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Speaker 1: a TV broadcaster, or I would tune in because it's radio. Yeah, Paul,

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Speaker 1: do you think this could be an answer my own

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Speaker 1: question more about branding than ratings, Like you're the worldwide

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Speaker 1: leader in sports. Use that phrase, and your worldwide leader

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Speaker 1: in sports has to have the biggest crew. I remember

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Speaker 1: when NBC took over Sunday at Football. They hired you Oberman,

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Speaker 1: Al Michaels, Bob Costas, and I remember what they said

580
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Speaker 1: is we wanted to be the biggest place in sports,

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Speaker 1: and they accomplished. It was mission accomplished. It felt like

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Speaker 1: the place to be because you guys were there. So

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Speaker 1: it worked for Sunday at Football and ended up paying

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Speaker 1: up for them number one show in America for what

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Speaker 1: twenty years? Yeah, And I think that the NFL catered

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Speaker 1: their schedule to help Sunday Night Football because they thought

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Speaker 1: we had put in the resources. We want you to

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Speaker 1: commit to. This is the best broadcast that you're going

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Speaker 1: to have, and they gave Sunday Night Football the best games.

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Speaker 1: And it's because of the commitment that NBC had with

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Speaker 1: their talent, and then you surround it and you do

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Speaker 1: a great job with it. Maybe that's what you know.

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Speaker 1: ESPN's trying to let the NFL know, Hey, we have

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Speaker 1: Troy and if you get Joe or you get out,

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Speaker 1: can we have better games? Well, the schedule that's already out.

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Speaker 1: As far as you know what ESPN's getting, and you

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Speaker 1: know the number of Super Bowls you're getting, I think

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Speaker 1: they get one super Bowl here, but you know that's

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Speaker 1: the rotation. He would have gotten two super Bowls. I

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Speaker 1: think it Fox, So I don't know, you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: Troy just thought you I want to be respected here.

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Speaker 1: Who knows. You know, Tony Romo didn't do anything in

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Speaker 1: his career that compares to mind, and he's getting paid

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Speaker 1: this and I've been doing this. Look, we're all strange

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Speaker 1: in this business, very insecure in this business. You're always

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Speaker 1: looking to see what the other guys getting and Troy's

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Speaker 1: probably no different. But this is what agents do you

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Speaker 1: know the agent for Kirk Kerbstreet could be doing that

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Speaker 1: right now. I'm going you know, I'm hearing Amazon, really

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Speaker 1: and then Chris Fowler is gonna be gonna you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm hearing Chris Fowler to Thursday night, like who knows.

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Speaker 1: It's just like coaches, h coaches be like, I'm interested,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take this. Les Miles was always up for

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Speaker 1: a job. It's like, hey, I'm here in Arkansas for

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Speaker 1: a last mile. Less Miles might be up for the

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Speaker 1: of the Year Jeff Passon from the Mothership covering baseball.

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Speaker 1: How about a round of a pause, Jeff Patson one

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Speaker 1: good that. Congratulations there, Jeff. Now as your rewarder, you

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Speaker 1: get to cover what's going on in Major League Baseball

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Speaker 1: right now. Congratulations. Before I get to the baseball issues here,

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Speaker 1: Derek Jeter in the Marlins are parting ways. Why is that?

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Speaker 1: What's the what's the best way to put this? U

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Speaker 1: Philosophical differences are probably the best way to put it

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Speaker 1: at this point in The degree of those philosophical differences

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Speaker 1: isn't exactly clear at this point, but what's obvious is

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Speaker 1: that Bruce Sherman, who Derek Jeter brought in as the

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Speaker 1: money man, really when they purchased the Marlins from Jeffrey

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Speaker 1: Lauria boy almost five years ago now, and Jeter's vision

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Speaker 1: for where the franchise is going it was not aligning.

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Speaker 1: And Derek Jeter is Derek Cheater. If he wants to

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Speaker 1: go do something, he can say piece out, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go do what I want to do. I've made enough money,

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Speaker 1: I have a great situation, and literally anyone in the

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Speaker 1: world will hire me. So I don't know what this

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Speaker 1: means for Derek Jeter's future in baseball and sports. Maybe

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Speaker 1: he goes somewhere else but is not with the Marlins anymore.

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Speaker 1: And I think baseball as a whole is worse off

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Speaker 1: for not having him in it. Who's had a better

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Speaker 1: playing post playing career A Rod or Derek Cheeter? Boy?

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Speaker 1: Is a Rod still under contract with the ESPN, because

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Speaker 1: that might actually change my answer now, Derek Jeters probably Wait,

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Speaker 1: you're saying Jeter's had a better post career A Rod's

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Speaker 1: on Sunday Night Baseball Fox postseason Shark Tank owns the

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Timberwolves. Yeah, you know what he's got. The Timberwolves

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Speaker 1: part I had forgotten about. I was just going to

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Speaker 1: say ownership always beats participation, So I was gonna go

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Speaker 1: with the ownership part of it. But since a Rod

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Speaker 1: actually still and we don't know what percentage by the

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Speaker 1: way he owns, um, I'm still going with Jeter. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: all right, So give us the cliff notes version. Don't

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Speaker 1: lawyer this off here, just give us what what? What

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Speaker 1: do we need to know about baseball right now? What's

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Speaker 1: the biggest issue that is keeping us from baseball right now?

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Speaker 1: The biggest issue keeping us from baseball is that Major

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Speaker 1: League Baseball teams and owners feel like they pay players

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Speaker 1: too much, and that players, after years of mistreatment, whether

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Speaker 1: it is salaries being lowered over the last four years,

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Speaker 1: whether it's getting their service time manipulated, whether it's free

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Speaker 1: agency changing indignity after indignity, are pissed off and saying

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Speaker 1: we're tired of this and not going to accept your

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Speaker 1: garbage offer. That's essentially what it boils down to. And

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Speaker 1: right now, major League Baseball, even though it has gone

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Speaker 1: in the players directions on a number of topics, being

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Speaker 1: open to a draft lottery, saying we'll give you extra

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Speaker 1: service time if you win Rookie of the Year and

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Speaker 1: a few other things. The money just ain't there yet.

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Speaker 1: And the thing that's holding this up then is the

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Speaker 1: luxury tax, which is not a surprise because it essentially

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Speaker 1: has functioned in many ways as a salary cap over

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Speaker 1: the last five years, and all Major League Baseball teams

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Speaker 1: have wanted going back to the dawn of time and

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Speaker 1: the labor organization in the sport has been a salary cap.

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Speaker 1: What happens today, Major League Baseball cancels the first week

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Speaker 1: of games, and suddenly some pressure is put on the

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Speaker 1: players to say, okay, are we really willing to give

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Speaker 1: up paychecks here? Because up until this point, you know,

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Speaker 1: they don't get paid during spring training, they don't get

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Speaker 1: paid during the offseason. At this point, it's starting to

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Speaker 1: get serious and the resolve of players is going to

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Speaker 1: be tested. Let me tell you, this is the most

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Speaker 1: resolute I've seen players in my twenty years of covering baseball.

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Speaker 1: I understand that it doesn't go back to the ninety

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Speaker 1: four strike in the aftermath, but I think the complacency

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Speaker 1: that labor Piece brought on among the players has vanished.

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Speaker 1: At this point. They are standing behind Max Scherzer, and

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Speaker 1: standing behind Garrett Cole, and standing behind a number of players,

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Speaker 1: big names who have taken the leadership mantle in the

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Speaker 1: Players Association and are willing to fight because they feel

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Speaker 1: like if they don't fight now, they're never going to win.

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Speaker 1: I saw this with the Associated Press where they point

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Speaker 1: out that Max Scherzer is making whatever per day, Garrett Coole,

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Speaker 1: Max schers are driving a Porsche to the meeting, as

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Speaker 1: if to say, you guys have enough money. Nobody's telling

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Speaker 1: me what the owners lose each day, and nobody's telling

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Speaker 1: me what they drove to the meetings or flew in

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Speaker 1: for these meetings. I was just going to say, you

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Speaker 1: know what they drove to the meetings A private jet. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what they drove to the meetings. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think. And I have a column going up later

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Speaker 1: today and I hope you read it because I think

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Speaker 1: you'll enjoy it. Finance in baseball's zero sum game, DAN

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Speaker 1: money goes either to the players or to the league

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Speaker 1: and owners, and the owners distribute it how they want.

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Speaker 1: To they pay for certain things, whether it's payroll, whether

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Speaker 1: it's capital improvements on their stadiums, whether it's staff, front's office,

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Speaker 1: whatever it may be. But every dollar that doesn't go

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Speaker 1: to players goes to the man. And so if you

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Speaker 1: want to be on the side who's saying players get

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Speaker 1: paid too much, then you are fundamentally on the side

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Speaker 1: that says businessmen should get it. And you talk about

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Speaker 1: dan how businessmen bear the burden and run the risk

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Speaker 1: and have all that. Major League Baseball is a legalized

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Speaker 1: monopoly that has revenues that are streaming in every year.

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Speaker 1: If you are in a big market, you have a

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Speaker 1: massive television contract. If you are in a small market,

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Speaker 1: you get all sorts of national television revenues and revenue

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Speaker 1: sharing from larger markets. If you are losing money in baseball,

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Speaker 1: then that's your fault, because it's not hard to be

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Speaker 1: a successful businessman in baseball. And the very thing you

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Speaker 1: can look at to illustrate that is the fact that

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Speaker 1: franchises right now, according to Forbes, are worth fifty five

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Speaker 1: billion dollars combined, when a decade ago they were worth fifteen.

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Speaker 1: What's the worst case scenario. The worst case scenario is

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Speaker 1: there's no baseball in twenty twenty two. I think there's

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Speaker 1: a small chance of that. But I'll be honest, four

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Speaker 1: months ago, I thought there was a small chance that

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Speaker 1: we were going to get to this point where games

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Speaker 1: were being lost. And granted I'm still not there that gay,

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Speaker 1: you know, major League Baseball could say we're going to

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Speaker 1: cancel games. There's still a month before they're supposed to start.

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Speaker 1: Dan Like, there's still thirty one days before opening Day,

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Speaker 1: So the idea that you're willing to have a four

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Speaker 1: week spring training but not willing to have a three

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Speaker 1: and a half week spring training, I'm sorry. If they

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Speaker 1: get something done in the next week, I think there's

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Speaker 1: hope for opening days starting March thirty first. If not, though,

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Speaker 1: like if this goes for a while, I think there

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Speaker 1: are a couple of days that are important. You have

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Speaker 1: to remember, clubs make the least amount of money during

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Speaker 1: the six months of the season in April, so, you know,

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Speaker 1: an operating thought in some players minds has been well

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Speaker 1: or clubs willing to actually punt on April. But as

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Speaker 1: my friend Andy McCullough said in a column at The Athletic,

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Speaker 1: if owners are willing to lose games in April, then

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Speaker 1: why should you tune in in May. Great stuff is

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Speaker 1: always Jeff and congratulations on being a Sportswriter of the Year.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Dan, I appreciate it. Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Where's the award? I believe it's in Winston Salem, North

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Speaker 1: Carolina where I'm going to go down and get it

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Speaker 1: this summer and the Sportscaster of the Year. More important

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Speaker 1: is the great Scott vmpell So being alongside him pretty

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Speaker 1: damn cool. Thank you, Jeff, Thank every buddy. That's Jeff Passion,

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Speaker 1: the ESPN Senior Baseball Insider. I'm supposed to go down

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Speaker 1: there for that award to pick up my Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame plaque or whatever it is. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: they give me, but I'm supposed to go down there

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Speaker 1: for that. Yeah. Point is that that's the same place

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Speaker 1: where you won the award where we went down with

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Speaker 1: the NBC jet. Yes, where Bob Cosas kind of talked

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Speaker 1: to us. Yeah, Bob conscious got on the NBC jet

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Speaker 1: and I think he was surprised to see the Danet's

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Speaker 1: on there. It's like Bob got on because Bob, I

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Speaker 1: think one sportscaster. No, I won sportscaster the year. I

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Speaker 1: think he was coming there and to support maybe, But

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Speaker 1: he got on the jet and he looked back and

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Speaker 1: he goes, oh yeah, see they think he got fire

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Speaker 1: up the PJ again. Yeah. Take the whole trip down off,

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Speaker 1: get Bob. Yeah, we don't even need Bob to go

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Speaker 1: down into private jet. Yeah. And the four of us

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Speaker 1: acted like four guys who had never been on a

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Speaker 1: private jet before. We're like playing a lot of buttons.

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Speaker 1: What does that do? What is ess peanut butter whops

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Speaker 1: on here? Oh my gosh, Doctor Pepper unlimited. Yes, Mark,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be crazy when we go into private

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Speaker 1: jet this year. Yeah. And you yawned during the show,

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Speaker 1: so you're probably not gonna make it. Sorry, but you

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Speaker 1: had a good run. I mean you did. You had

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Speaker 1: about four or five shows and you got sit in

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Speaker 1: the front row. I'll take it. Yeah. So no Sandler

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Speaker 1: movie either. No. No, but you know, let's let's let

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Speaker 1: it cool off, let it simmer a little bit here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: seeing you can't yawn during the show, dear, Yes, Todd,

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Speaker 1: Now what about the eating early on Meet Friday? What's

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Speaker 1: happening in four days from now? I'm gonna let it simmer.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's a Monday. It's a long way away.

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Speaker 1: Marvin's got a chance to rally. But I don't know

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Speaker 1: that's your first defense. I'm gonna do it. You are lie,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna lie about not yawning. Yes, okay, yeah. A

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Speaker 1: couple of phone calls in here, David and Kalamazoo. You

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Speaker 1: know where Kalamazoo is, Todd, that would be Michigan. Alrighty David, welcome.

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Speaker 1: What's on your mind? Matter? Boy? Todd? How's it going? Guys?

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Speaker 1: Great for taking my fall. That's the worst of the weekend. Um,

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Speaker 1: this whole a few of them making themselves look like

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Speaker 1: a bunch of clowns all the time, as kind of

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Speaker 1: was my in Best of the Weekend, believe it or not,

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Speaker 1: Joan Howard throws a punch and he's not immediately let go.

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Speaker 1: I mean following the game, I don't know. Well, it

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Speaker 1: was a slap. It was not a punch to you know,

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Speaker 1: just to be accurate here, it was a slap. It

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Speaker 1: was a podcast. I guess, uh, I guess you're right.

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Speaker 1: There's a slap on national TV. But uh, Todd, he

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Speaker 1: took my in Best of the work, second best of

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Speaker 1: the weekend. Michigan State coming back, finally getting to win.

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Speaker 1: But it's funny when you don't turn the ball over

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Speaker 1: twenty times a game. What happens? You know? Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: thank you, David Stephen and Kalamazoo home of Derek Teater Right, Kalamazoo, Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't he born there? I think he was born or

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Speaker 1: raised in Kalamazoo, Michigan. All right, yeah, Paul, I got

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Speaker 1: Derek to You're born in New Jersey, but yes, raised

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Speaker 1: in the Kalamazoo area, Kalamazoo Central High School, the Rockets,

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Speaker 1: I think, Uh? Nick and Arizona? Nick? What's on your

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Speaker 1: mind today? A DP? Nick and a Z here six

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Speaker 1: feet two hund Yeah, Hey, just wanted Sorry, I'm running

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Speaker 1: a little late. I'm in the middle of the meetings

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Speaker 1: best and work for the weekend. But best is some Wait,

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Speaker 1: what's what's what's the meeting you're in? Oh? It's on

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Speaker 1: Monday morning staff meeting and I'm actually running it. So

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Speaker 1: I just had to run up. Okay, all right, are

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Speaker 1: you in the meeting now? Uh? No, I have to leave.

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Speaker 1: DP shows way more. Okay, all right, fair enough, okay,

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Speaker 1: so best and worse best and worse is some Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: high school basketball. Turpin High School beat number one Elder

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Speaker 1: on a buzzer beater, which was incredible. Elder is where

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Speaker 1: Kyle Rudolph went to school. Um. And then my worst

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Speaker 1: of the weekend is took my five year olds his

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Speaker 1: first son's game and we'd lost Booker drop thirty. We

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Speaker 1: still lost, so that was devastating. We need CP three back,

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Speaker 1: Thank thank you, thank you. His best is Elder losing

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Speaker 1: to Turpin in Ohio basketball. Elder, by the way, great,

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Speaker 1: great football, basketball, high school, great sport sports, high school,

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Speaker 1: great growing up Elder, they were they were tough. Yeah

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Speaker 1: point yeah, Turpin knocked out number one seed Elder. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Brady Hardwig buzzer beat or three point of Dan, that's

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Speaker 1: your territory, Yeah, yep, yep. Have you guys seen the

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Speaker 1: warm up video with Steph Curry that's making the rounds

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Speaker 1: today crazy. Just watch that and the effortless movement that

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Speaker 1: he has when he's just shooting free throw line top

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Speaker 1: of the key, a little deeper, a little deeper, a

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Speaker 1: little deeper on the logo, and then he works his

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Speaker 1: way back in and he doesn't miss. So he has

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Speaker 1: that routine and then he just throws one underhand up

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Speaker 1: inside the foul line, about twenty five feet up, and

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Speaker 1: of course it goes in. They all I think he

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Speaker 1: may have touched rim on one of them maybe, and

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Speaker 1: everything else was just swish. He has this. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if he still does this with Steve Kerr, but

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Speaker 1: they would shoot free throws, and Kerr one of the

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Speaker 1: great free throw shooters of all time. If you hit iron,

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Speaker 1: that's a miss. You had to swish it. And I

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Speaker 1: think it's the first to make ten in a row swishing,

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Speaker 1: no no iron, no rim at all, gampling. I count

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Speaker 1: hitting iron as a make for me. That's how bad

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Speaker 1: I ever shoot. A reread those I catch, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: all right, even if you bank it in from the

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Speaker 1: top of the key, you're going to count it.