Speaker 1: I am in what my kids would call bill mode
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: What does that mean?
Speaker 1: When you want to get a job done, you gotta
Speaker 1: get it done yourself. Listen, I love all of the
Speaker 1: people in the stop motion industry. I love all of you.
Speaker 1: You are very expensive, though, I'm gonna keep it one
Speaker 1: hundred with you. You are not cheap at all. I'm
Speaker 1: surprised half of y'all ain't living in freaking mansions. The
Speaker 1: freaking amount of money and hours you guys work anyway,
Speaker 1: and money the money you make for the hours you work,
Speaker 1: y'all need a union. I'm just gonna put it out
Speaker 1: there anyway. That's one two. When you want something done,
Speaker 1: you gotta get it done yourself, is what I'm finding.
Speaker 1: And see, I'm learning how to build sets right now.
Speaker 3: Yes, I saw you with paper mache.
Speaker 1: More than paper mache, I got, I got plaster, I
Speaker 1: got pinked woodland scenic. I have bought your company pretty much.
Speaker 1: That's how what stuff I've brought from you?
Speaker 3: And how did you learn how to build a set?
Speaker 3: You're building tattooing.
Speaker 1: No, I'm just building a set uh, a sand like planet. Uh.
Speaker 1: From watching there.
Speaker 3: Is there a YouTube video that's like how to build
Speaker 3: tattooing And.
Speaker 1: I've been watching a lot of YouTube, a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of YouTube. Like I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm like the kids nowadays. How about you? How are
Speaker 1: you guys doing?
Speaker 3: No please go on and on about stopping emotional. We
Speaker 3: just want to hear all about it. Tell us more
Speaker 3: about what do you think the union rates should be
Speaker 3: for these people?
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy is that you're being facetious. You
Speaker 1: got and I know Joelle's not, but I know you are. Zach.
Speaker 1: I do believe that all Star. I think the community
Speaker 1: of stop motion needs a union. But you know what
Speaker 1: happens when people talk about union, You wind up buried
Speaker 1: where nobody can find you.
Speaker 3: All Right, Well, I do you think in the terms
Speaker 3: of a Scrubs rewatch podcast, we've done a good, solid
Speaker 3: five minutes on stop motion. Should we segue into a
Speaker 3: topic they might be interested in? If I tell you something,
Speaker 3: to be surprised. I'm watching that you should be watching.
Speaker 3: I know you don't watch things, but it's really good, Joelle,
Speaker 3: you're going to be shocked. To drum roll, I'm strapped in.
Speaker 2: Penguin O.
Speaker 4: It's a good freaking show.
Speaker 1: That's easy to get sucked.
Speaker 3: Are you watching it?
Speaker 2: Donald?
Speaker 1: I saw the first episode. It was very good.
Speaker 3: Colin Ferrell is very, very good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's very good.
Speaker 3: It's very good Colin Colin Ferrell. You know, even under
Speaker 3: all those prosthetics, you think sometimes the performance can get lost.
Speaker 3: But he's such a good actor.
Speaker 1: He doesn't overdo it. He doesn't overdo it, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. He keeps it simple.
Speaker 3: And that accent. He's got the tough guy gangster accent down.
Speaker 3: And everyone's very good in it. Very it's it's really
Speaker 3: well made.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder, I wonder how all of this fits
Speaker 1: into I know it fits in. It doesn't fit into
Speaker 1: the Joker story, but I know it fits into the
Speaker 1: Batman story that matt Reeves was doing.
Speaker 5: That.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this Colin is going to play the
Speaker 3: penguin in matt Reeves movie. Is that correct you?
Speaker 4: Well, he already was, so he showed up in The
Speaker 4: Batman by matt Reeves, and then he'll be in the
Speaker 4: second one as well. He just announced he's in like
Speaker 4: five or six scenes in the new one.
Speaker 1: Well, he's only in three scenes in the first one too.
Speaker 2: M hm.
Speaker 1: He's a small time he's a small time crook.
Speaker 3: It's interesting though, not seeing Batman at all. I wonder
Speaker 3: why they chose to not show the Joker or Batman
Speaker 3: at all.
Speaker 1: Well, the sequel I hear the sequel series is the
Speaker 1: Joker will be uh your boy. Yeah, that'll be the sequel,
Speaker 1: the sequel series next season.
Speaker 3: Oh, so Colin's not going to do season two from
Speaker 3: what I.
Speaker 1: From what I understand, there's going to be a Joker
Speaker 1: series as well as what I heard.
Speaker 4: Well, he talks to a Joker series. The Joker is
Speaker 4: the next villain in the Batman story, like the main
Speaker 4: primary villain in the second Batman movie.
Speaker 3: So we'll see.
Speaker 4: But I hope, I hope, I hope they get a
Speaker 4: lot of Spinosa's rumors. There could be a Catwoman series
Speaker 4: with Zilly Kravitz, so let's see. Matt Reeves is really
Speaker 4: doing a ton of Batman work over at WB right now.
Speaker 4: I sent Donald the animation he's working on right now,
Speaker 4: which looks beautiful and weird and cool. It's like robots
Speaker 4: and puppets stop motion.
Speaker 3: It's interesting. He's a busy guy. Colin Ferrel is a
Speaker 3: busy guy. Gosh, he's he's got two series going. He's
Speaker 3: got the other one too.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Also is a busy guy who is still the Winter
Speaker 1: Soldier kid. What's his name? Yeah, shit, you're a busy man,
Speaker 1: Sebastian stand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's in a lot of things. Good actor.
Speaker 1: I also noticed that our complete box set is number two.
Speaker 1: You know, why is that iTunes?
Speaker 3: How did that happen?
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's Rebels and then us.
Speaker 3: For some reason Scrubs fans listeners. I don't know why,
Speaker 3: but we're the number two thing for sale on the
Speaker 3: iTunes store.
Speaker 1: It's amazing. Rebels is number one, Believe it or not.
Speaker 3: Rebels is number one, and the Complete Scrubs box set
Speaker 3: is number two. What do you think could have happened?
Speaker 3: Could it be this podcast?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: I doubted.
Speaker 1: It really has to do with the fact that Bill
Speaker 1: has been talking so much.
Speaker 3: Shit oh about a reboot?
Speaker 1: You think, yeah, And I think people are trying to
Speaker 1: catch up.
Speaker 3: I did they offer it at a new price point
Speaker 3: or something. I just it just was surprised. I was
Speaker 3: looking for a show and I was slipping through Apple
Speaker 3: and then I saw the number two TV thing for sale.
Speaker 3: It's Scrubs box set. I was like, what the hell happened.
Speaker 1: It has to feel good. It felt good to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, made me smile. You know I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 3: know what the raised on debttra.
Speaker 1: Do you want to I want to ask him some matches.
Speaker 1: My name sounds like my name. I want to ask.
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you this because I do this,
Speaker 1: and I don't think it's healthy. But sometimes I catch
Speaker 1: myself doing it because I watch a lot of movies.
Speaker 1: You know how they have the top one hundred movies.
Speaker 1: Do you ever go through that ship and see how
Speaker 1: many movies you in?
Speaker 3: No, because I don't think one hundred movies.
Speaker 1: So when you go through sports movies, I'm in I'm
Speaker 1: in top Oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't know that I'm in a
Speaker 3: top one hundred movie.
Speaker 1: I wish when you go through like Coming of Age store,
Speaker 1: I'm in the top.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm talking about all I thought you I assume
Speaker 3: you were talking about all movies.
Speaker 1: And then when you go through all movies. At one point,
Speaker 1: I had like six or seven movies in that shit,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm fucking doing it. As time
Speaker 1: goes on, Timothy Shallamine is taking my spots man, That
Speaker 1: mofuck is in everything, dude, That dude is in everything, man,
Speaker 1: Like all of great movies are his or Florence Pugh's.
Speaker 1: They are all over the place.
Speaker 3: Man, Generation generation is killing. I would imagine your football
Speaker 3: movie would maybe be in the top one hundred.
Speaker 1: It was no. You know what when it comes to
Speaker 1: top one hundred movies, remember the Titans on iTunes is
Speaker 1: rarely in it? Clueless is like ninety five usual?
Speaker 2: What about homiees Pimoni?
Speaker 1: Never it? I don't think that's made a top anything.
Speaker 3: What about top movies were where an African American plays
Speaker 3: an Italian person?
Speaker 1: I think Vin Diesel is in a couple of those.
Speaker 3: What else did I watch?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Joey, you know him right too? You know right?
Speaker 1: Joel Ben I.
Speaker 4: Was like, he's there's a black relative in there somewhere.
Speaker 1: Got more than one black relative, he's one of us.
Speaker 1: What's going on? Ben? Stop fronting?
Speaker 3: And I don't get it. Vin Diesel's black.
Speaker 4: No Vin Diesels to pop up in a lot of
Speaker 4: movies that like black audiences would flock to.
Speaker 1: I just like and.
Speaker 4: He he's got my features where he's like you if
Speaker 4: I don't know if you like me. I'm from a
Speaker 4: very mixed family, and so some of our relatives passed
Speaker 4: for white, and so sometimes you look at white pertus
Speaker 4: you're like, are you one of us? I'm trying to
Speaker 4: figure it out. Vin Diesel, I was like them in
Speaker 4: the mid two thousands. I spent a lot of time
Speaker 4: being likes Bendy.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: He's put it out there, Listen. I went to school
Speaker 1: with his sister and him. That dude had an afro
Speaker 1: back in the day. Yo, that motherfucker black. I don't
Speaker 1: get fuck what he's saying. I love you, I love Listen,
Speaker 1: I don't. We don't know each other no more. His
Speaker 1: sister I run into I used to run into all
Speaker 1: the time, uh at like at like Comic con and
Speaker 1: shit like that. And she would be like, I just
Speaker 1: remember when you guys were kids, your brother singing five
Speaker 1: Golden Rings at the Talent Show, and so that was
Speaker 1: her connection. I just remember you guys at the talent show,
Speaker 1: and I just remember Vin Diesel being black. I would
Speaker 1: put it out.
Speaker 3: There, all right. Well, that's our segment on is Vin
Speaker 3: Diesel black?
Speaker 1: Listen? We should That's a good question. That's I wish
Speaker 1: we could get him to answer the question.
Speaker 3: Why don't you ask chat GPT Daniel?
Speaker 1: Okay, Daniel, do you have chat GPT?
Speaker 3: Do it? But he has chests the website.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have chat GPT.
Speaker 3: It's just a website.
Speaker 1: Cash the question. I think I would enjoy it too,
Speaker 1: to be honest.
Speaker 3: With you, I use it all the time to answer
Speaker 3: questions for myself.
Speaker 1: Well, it's a Google search. Everybody's looking at AI like
Speaker 1: AI is a is A is terminator. It's not like
Speaker 1: terminator right now. It's just a really strong, powerful search engine,
Speaker 1: is what AI is. If I'm correct, I.
Speaker 6: Don't think it's a search engine. No, it's a language
Speaker 6: learning model. And so what it does is it basically
Speaker 6: cribs answers from the Internet, as opposed to being like
Speaker 6: a search engine.
Speaker 2: But it's not.
Speaker 6: The thing is, it's not searching the internet for answers.
Speaker 6: It's kind of like acquiring language from how people talk
Speaker 6: about stuff and using that to train itself to respond
Speaker 6: to inquiries. So the thing is as opposed to trying
Speaker 6: to like find the best answer for stuff, it will
Speaker 6: kind of just like say what it thinks you want
Speaker 6: to hear, which is not necessarily a search engine.
Speaker 3: But then you can do a feature. I think I
Speaker 3: mentioned where you say, check your work and and how
Speaker 3: would you have improved your your work? And then it'll
Speaker 3: give you some thoughtful responses on how it looked back
Speaker 3: on its work. Impressive come up with an answer.
Speaker 6: Yes, Vin Diesel is of mixed heritage, but he does
Speaker 6: not identify as black.
Speaker 3: His father said his father is said. This is what
Speaker 3: chat gpt is saying.
Speaker 7: His father is said to.
Speaker 6: Be of African American and possibly some other ethnic origins,
Speaker 6: while his mother is of predominantly white, mostly European descent.
Speaker 6: And interviews, Vin Diesel has mentioned that he does not
Speaker 6: know the specifics of his biological father's ancestry, as he
Speaker 6: was raised by his mother and stepfather.
Speaker 3: Well there you go, Donald, Are you satisfied?
Speaker 1: I am? I am. I am satisfied with chat GPT's answer,
Speaker 1: but I am not satisfied with it.
Speaker 3: Seems so upset about it that with the reality, this
Speaker 3: would really throw I never thought that this question would
Speaker 3: throw you so much.
Speaker 1: I just don't like hearing people say they identify as
Speaker 1: something other than what they are.
Speaker 3: But he just said he doesn't really know his biological
Speaker 3: father's ancestry what it was. You just think he's black
Speaker 3: because he had an afro. I think there's lots of
Speaker 3: Jews who have afros.
Speaker 1: Very sure, we don't listen. I don't want to get
Speaker 1: into this. I don't want to get into I don't
Speaker 1: want to get into this. I don't want to get
Speaker 1: into this. Man.
Speaker 3: Let's get into Joel McHale is he here, Sir?
Speaker 2: Joel McHale is in the way.
Speaker 1: The word gosh, six seven stories.
Speaker 8: I'm not sure we made about a bunch of dogs and.
Speaker 1: Nurses in.
Speaker 8: He said, he's the stories nat so yeada rab here
Speaker 8: a yeahda ra here obwe me.
Speaker 5: Wiz Oh, oh my god.
Speaker 1: Wow, he is handsome.
Speaker 3: Look at that jaw line. Look at that jaw line.
Speaker 1: And then look at the gray. He's distinguished.
Speaker 3: Joel, you gotta put headphones on her. You're gonna fuck
Speaker 3: up all our sound.
Speaker 5: Your fucking headphone addiction is so stupid. It's what what is.
Speaker 3: The I happened? We want good sound from Joel mchel
Speaker 3: He's a good get.
Speaker 7: How much more of a velvety fog do you want
Speaker 7: than this?
Speaker 2: God? Listen to that voice.
Speaker 3: He probably gets so much voice over work. Donald's listen
Speaker 3: to that voice.
Speaker 2: Here we go I got this.
Speaker 1: Are these ears? Are these monitors?
Speaker 7: I'm a warning in Uh, let's see.
Speaker 1: Since you've got since your R and B days, how dare.
Speaker 5: You it used to be a actor for Imagine Dragons.
Speaker 1: Well you were just with Imagine Dragons, weren't we?
Speaker 7: No, no smokers, They're they're often mistaken for your.
Speaker 3: Joel Joe McHale. Welcome to the program. You are a
Speaker 3: very funny man. We are honored that you joined.
Speaker 5: Thank you for having me, and I'm very excited about
Speaker 5: the Imagine Dragons episode.
Speaker 3: They're no, they weren't on the podcast. Donald just is
Speaker 3: conflating two different bands he knows nothing about. We ended
Speaker 3: up at a Chainsmoker's concert in Vegas, and he thinks
Speaker 3: that's imagined Dream because.
Speaker 1: I also thought that. I also thought that they were
Speaker 1: what's the other band? All my friends or he Din's
Speaker 1: take twenty one pilots, twenty one pilots. It's just like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was whatever, white whatever white?
Speaker 7: What about the Killers?
Speaker 2: They're from Vegas too, No, not a killer.
Speaker 3: We had this really cringe moment where we were with
Speaker 3: the Chainsmokers and Donald was like, I love it when
Speaker 3: y'all did. All my friends are Heathens and they were like,
Speaker 3: that's that's not that's our song.
Speaker 1: That's not ourselves, Like no, no, no, no, no your song.
Speaker 3: And then Donald tried to play it all No, no,
Speaker 3: I just love that radio you played.
Speaker 1: Radioactive, right, I love right You're song is right radio.
Speaker 3: And they're like, no, Donald, do you remember when you
Speaker 3: tried to play it off like you weren't saying it
Speaker 3: was their song. You were just saying you liked that song.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it didn't. It didn't work.
Speaker 3: And then like and then about thirty seconds and he
Speaker 3: gave up. He's like, I did think that was you, guys?
Speaker 3: I did?
Speaker 5: He was like, no, No, I just wanted to tell
Speaker 5: you about songs that I love for no reason.
Speaker 3: I just I wanted to mention songs by other white people.
Speaker 2: Have you guys heard of Peter Paul and Mary? I
Speaker 2: just love the Joel.
Speaker 3: I think I hustle hard in town, but I don't
Speaker 3: think anybody does more in a given year than you.
Speaker 3: You do a lot of shit.
Speaker 5: Well, it's part of my new book coming out called
Speaker 5: Always Say Yes and No Matter What. So I just
Speaker 5: agree to anything that's ever offered, and sometimes that ends
Speaker 5: up being fentanyl.
Speaker 1: No, but you do hustle hard.
Speaker 2: You do hustle hard.
Speaker 3: You got a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: Hardest working people in Hollywood right now.
Speaker 5: I agree, but it may not be quality, but I
Speaker 5: will work very hard.
Speaker 3: No, You've got a lot of quality on your resume.
Speaker 3: I want to go back to the beginning, because the
Speaker 3: first time I found out that you were really funny
Speaker 3: and you made me laugh so hard was the soup.
Speaker 7: Oh that's going way back, way back.
Speaker 3: Well, that's when I first That's when I first discovered you.
Speaker 7: This was our executive producer. It was also he was
Speaker 7: also when.
Speaker 5: Steely Dan Donald it was a big It was a
Speaker 5: huge Steely Dan's that band that beat eminem that year
Speaker 5: at the Grammys.
Speaker 1: I remember, you know.
Speaker 3: Steely Dan sayings, all my friends are he's taking Joe.
Speaker 3: How did this the soup come about? Because I read
Speaker 3: that you didn't even have an agent at the time.
Speaker 3: How did you get that? I?
Speaker 7: Well, I was at the time.
Speaker 5: I had a commercial agent aka who are who were
Speaker 5: great and continue to be great? Uh? And then I
Speaker 5: was hip hocketed at gersh which is a Hollywood term.
Speaker 1: Everybody, Yeah, I explained to what hip hockets.
Speaker 2: Don't know Hollywood? Was that so you're not a fit.
Speaker 5: So there's these agencies they got all in Hollywood or
Speaker 5: in New York. They all have these separate departments.
Speaker 2: They got a lot.
Speaker 5: You always have a team, it's usually not just one person.
Speaker 5: And I had this friend from high school, Jason Burns.
Speaker 5: He was an agent at GERSH and he he really
Speaker 5: helped me. And he was like, look, so what happens
Speaker 5: is the hip hocket means this one person will send
Speaker 5: you out kind of under the table to auditions and stuff.
Speaker 2: And they're not they're not signing you.
Speaker 3: They're they're feeling you out there.
Speaker 2: And I had had an agent.
Speaker 5: I was with an agency called Stone Manners and they
Speaker 5: dropped me after a year because I wasn't working. And
Speaker 5: they literally said, uh, you're too green. Literally said you're
Speaker 5: too green. Come back when you have more experience, and
Speaker 5: and that was that. So that was that wasn't demoralizing
Speaker 5: at all, not at all. But because I got here
Speaker 5: and did two quick jobs, got an agent.
Speaker 2: And then it all went away.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and so then I had a hip pocketed Gershon.
Speaker 5: Jason my friend said, look, I'll send you out, but
Speaker 5: no one here is going to be excited about you.
Speaker 5: So it's a you should not sign here across the
Speaker 5: board because no one's going to do anything. And I
Speaker 5: that at the time, was like how dare you? And
Speaker 5: then I now I was like, oh, that was really
Speaker 5: great advice and really was showed me the where I
Speaker 5: was in my career.
Speaker 7: And then this woman named Anny Roberts.
Speaker 5: Who cast everything out of E I began booking commercials
Speaker 5: through AKA and she would see actors in those commercials and.
Speaker 9: Go bring them in for one hundred and one celebrity Oops,
Speaker 9: and we'll show videos of you know, Chris Cross going
Speaker 9: to a club and then comedians.
Speaker 5: Will comment like you know. It was like an early
Speaker 5: or like a parallel version of Best Week Ever. And
Speaker 5: just from her continuously bringing me in, she got me
Speaker 5: the audition for what became The Soup, which it was
Speaker 5: not at the time. It was called The What the Awards,
Speaker 5: which was a terrible, terrible title for a television show. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and then then the show went on the air and
Speaker 5: it was on for like six months, and then GERSH
Speaker 5: was like, we would love to sit down with.
Speaker 1: You for lunch, and I was already paying.
Speaker 2: Them, so to get some of.
Speaker 5: My commission back at lunch, I ordered an eight pound
Speaker 5: lobster and like, I think I ordered two bottles of
Speaker 5: wine to take home with me. So they and that's
Speaker 5: when I signed with them. And then then you know,
Speaker 5: the show was slowly but surely gaining popularity.
Speaker 7: But that's that's how that came together.
Speaker 5: And then when all these other agents of you guys
Speaker 5: know what, Like when all these other agents show up and.
Speaker 2: Be like, we're just big fans, we love your work.
Speaker 2: And I was like, didn't you loved it when it
Speaker 2: got on? You know, you're sure you sure liked it after.
Speaker 3: I know, it's really hard because there's no interest in
Speaker 3: you when you're starting out, and then you get a
Speaker 3: little bit of heat and all of a sudden, there's
Speaker 3: so much interest in you, and you're like, well, how
Speaker 3: am I supposed to get started?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Joe, you're the first. You were the first host
Speaker 1: of the super.
Speaker 5: No It was called Talk Soup in ninety one with
Speaker 5: Greg Kinnear.
Speaker 3: Greg.
Speaker 5: Yes, So he's the pot he's the true pioneer. And
Speaker 5: then John Henson came in and really, you know, the
Speaker 5: show fully exploded then and then how Sparks came in
Speaker 5: after John Henson left, and then Aisha Tyler was the
Speaker 5: fourth host and then she Then the show was canceled
Speaker 5: in two thousand and two because talk shows. It was
Speaker 5: only about afternoon talk shows. And I know who's ever
Speaker 5: listening was like there used to just be ever every
Speaker 5: channel had five talk shows on afterwards back and you
Speaker 5: were there was enough there and and so we didn't.
Speaker 2: We came in.
Speaker 5: They brought the show in as like, we don't want
Speaker 5: They literally said, we don't want talk soup. We just
Speaker 5: want some some kind of version of that.
Speaker 2: And then the new.
Speaker 5: President came in and went, why is this called the
Speaker 5: what the awards? It's a terrible name. Let's call it
Speaker 5: the soup. And that was that and uh.
Speaker 3: And then well, yeah, I technically the it was never
Speaker 3: on my radar, so it was never on my radar
Speaker 3: before you, Joel.
Speaker 2: Well you were also an infant. You were you were
Speaker 2: just a baby.
Speaker 3: I was young, but I I started watching it because
Speaker 3: of you. You made me laugh really hard, and I
Speaker 3: thought it was very irreverend at the time too. And
Speaker 3: I remember thinking like it was almost like a like
Speaker 3: a roast. I mean, it was so funny and and
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe some of the ship that they were
Speaker 3: letting you say I think at the time, I just
Speaker 3: was I just found it so funny.
Speaker 1: I do remember when you took over and how the
Speaker 1: show all of a sudden became it became a little
Speaker 1: bit more for me, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: feel like when Kanear was a host, we had Aisha,
Speaker 1: and I thought Aisha did a great job too, But
Speaker 1: when Kanear was doing it, it just seemed like it
Speaker 1: was older comedy and it wasn't necessarily the comedy I
Speaker 1: was laughing at. But then when you got on it,
Speaker 1: it felt like it it was aimed towards me, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I fucking watch. I would tune in
Speaker 1: to watch the soup.
Speaker 2: I remember Bless You.
Speaker 5: No, it was we got because the President believes in it,
Speaker 5: and nobody watched it for six months, but the President's like, oh,
Speaker 5: it seems good. You're you're doing better than the the
Speaker 5: rerun of Sex and the City that we put on
Speaker 5: at ten o'clock. So once you keep going, uh what,
Speaker 5: we were just trying to make ourselves laugh, and I
Speaker 5: and I would literally namecheck high school friends and see
Speaker 5: if they would call in or like.
Speaker 2: See like that.
Speaker 5: They're like, hey, you said my name, Dean's get and
Speaker 5: I was like, all right, Dean watched it, but yeah,
Speaker 5: we got, we got. Really it was because on top
Speaker 5: of that, I'm very dyslexic and cannot read teleprompter very well.
Speaker 2: I'm way better at.
Speaker 5: It now, but those first few shows that were like
Speaker 5: here read twenty two minutes of jokes with cameras and
Speaker 5: clips coming in and out, it would take me four hours.
Speaker 5: So it was like God had was like, all right,
Speaker 5: we're gonna let you fuck this up for a while
Speaker 5: and then you'll get a little bit better at it,
Speaker 5: and thank God, and so that's how it. You can
Speaker 5: The poor people who are at the tapings were they
Speaker 5: like this, this guy's an idiot and he can't read
Speaker 5: and that's Oh.
Speaker 3: That must have been really hard because reading a teleprompter
Speaker 3: live in front of an audience. Oh, dyslexia must have
Speaker 3: been really stressful.
Speaker 5: Yes, it was very Half of it was anxiety, and
Speaker 5: thankfully I'm way I mean, you learn different and now
Speaker 5: you're still not very good at it, but you learn
Speaker 5: different ways to deal with it. And but boy, those
Speaker 5: first few days, I remember one taping to four hours
Speaker 5: to get through twenty two minutes.
Speaker 2: Of jokes, and I was like, oh, boy, and.
Speaker 5: Then we did it live, and I was ashamed of
Speaker 5: being dyslexic, but then I kind of I got over that.
Speaker 5: And then when we did it live live, because we did,
Speaker 5: I was like, Hi, it's Joel from the Soup.
Speaker 7: I'm dyslexic. We're doing it live. I don't know what
Speaker 7: the fuck's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: And how often would you do it live?
Speaker 5: Well, there was like two years we did it live,
Speaker 5: I think, but it was too like. That was also
Speaker 5: when the ratings went up, but then it was beginning
Speaker 5: to win. Like towards the end, that's when the old
Speaker 5: you know, like streamers were coming in. Television's ratings were diving,
Speaker 5: and of course they blamed they always blamed the talent.
Speaker 5: And so that's one of the reasons why I went away.
Speaker 2: But the same thing, big.
Speaker 1: I was on the last episode you were, I was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was on a couple episodes. Actually, yeah, you and I.
Speaker 1: You and I became You and I became friends while
Speaker 1: you were doing this show.
Speaker 3: Joel doesn't remember that.
Speaker 1: Donald, Well, we played on a basketball team together for
Speaker 1: several years. Actually, he and I and and competed against
Speaker 1: a lot For a while, it was just me and
Speaker 1: you bro and that was it, like you know and
Speaker 1: Anto Montana and Montana.
Speaker 2: Jeff and Jeff Sltz was good.
Speaker 1: And salts and starts. Yeah, he was with us too,
Speaker 1: and we competed and got we did really well. This
Speaker 1: is this NBA Celebrity League Entertainment League.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. Donald was very into that.
Speaker 5: If you were to have taped those games and shown them,
Speaker 5: people would not believe, like the different heavy hit like
Speaker 5: the different real celebrities that were coming in and be like, Oh,
Speaker 5: we're playing Will Ferrell today.
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, oh wow, I'm gonna go to Adam Sandler.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be great.
Speaker 7: Do you remember how Brian McKnight was on our was
Speaker 7: on our team?
Speaker 1: No, you were on Brian the nice team. He was
Speaker 1: never on my team. He one year I had Bill
Speaker 1: lay It was like me, Bill Lawrence, Uh, Jeff Stultz,
Speaker 1: I think we had. I want to say Adam McKay
Speaker 1: was on our team. I could be wrong, but he
Speaker 1: never showed up. All I know is we had a
Speaker 1: stacked team of like big time television producers.
Speaker 7: Who were on the last few years of their knees and.
Speaker 1: Right and and couldn't run and stuff like I remember
Speaker 1: we dude, we had had.
Speaker 5: A fights broke out. I mean it was it was
Speaker 5: no joke, it was it was good. It was good competition.
Speaker 2: And then there was some lawyer.
Speaker 5: I remember there was like, who's the freaking lawyer? Who's
Speaker 5: this who's the six to seven guy? They're like, he's
Speaker 5: an entertainment lawyer. I'm like that guy, and they're like, oh,
Speaker 5: he was on the Lakers for he had a good
Speaker 5: that he was on the Lakers for a year.
Speaker 1: And I was like wow.
Speaker 2: I was like, that's that's cheating.
Speaker 1: But Bob Myers was a fucking Bob Myers played in
Speaker 1: our league. Bob Myers ran the Golden State Warriors in
Speaker 1: their glory days when they won all of their championships.
Speaker 1: He was he played in our league, and he was
Speaker 1: a sports agent at the time.
Speaker 5: So I was like, okay, but there's this There was
Speaker 5: no quality, there was no levels of qualifying.
Speaker 3: But people took it very seriously. I know Donald took
Speaker 3: it very serious.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna be honest with you. I think
Speaker 1: there's some people like Guy Richie doesn't talk to me
Speaker 1: today because of that league. Guy Richie's like, if I
Speaker 1: ever I'll never go.
Speaker 3: You got in lifelong fights with people.
Speaker 1: No, not guy Richie, my bad mcg. Mcg's like, I'll
Speaker 1: never hire him.
Speaker 2: Wait, what is mc g made lately?
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. I know a lot
Speaker 1: of people hated me, and I knew. And I found
Speaker 1: this out because one day we were playing and some
Speaker 1: dude followed me and he's like, I didn't follow him
Speaker 1: and I turned into him. I said, yeah you did,
Speaker 1: and he wanted to fight me, like fuck you, Donald,
Speaker 1: kill you, and I was like, whoa. I didn't realize
Speaker 1: I was hated like that.
Speaker 3: Do you think the soup could be on today? Joel?
Speaker 3: I mean, I wonder in.
Speaker 2: This transition, Zach.
Speaker 5: But listen, Donald was the best person to have on
Speaker 5: the team because he fucking cared. And I was like,
Speaker 5: I'm glad Donald's on my team because he doesn't.
Speaker 2: It's yes, he was very passionate.
Speaker 1: Do you think do you think it could it could
Speaker 1: make it?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 5: We tried it on Netflix and it didn't work. We
Speaker 5: lasted two seasons. But I don't I always say I
Speaker 5: don't think so because everything it's very.
Speaker 2: Hard to write today. It's very ten.
Speaker 3: People are very people are very sensitive and the show
Speaker 3: to me. I mean, it's funny I'm saying this, But
Speaker 3: at the same time, people love the roast. Yeah, Tom
Speaker 3: Brady roast was so many and it was so insane
Speaker 3: the ship that was being said on the roast. But
Speaker 3: I think in the quality in the context of a roast,
Speaker 3: people allowed different rules because it's like this old tradition.
Speaker 1: Like a roasted.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you's also showing up to participate, your right, Donald.
Speaker 5: But I actually don't think that. When I hear older
Speaker 5: comics say, oh, crowds are too sensitive now, I actually
Speaker 5: do not subscribe to that because I because, like I
Speaker 5: when I heard Seinfeld talk about college crowds that he
Speaker 5: didn't you know there, I was because when I do
Speaker 5: colleges there they seem on board. But maybe they're just
Speaker 5: being nice to this old man and uh but we
Speaker 5: shots fired, sorry Jerry Seinfeld and uh but but but
Speaker 5: I have noticed no difference with young people that you
Speaker 5: can say you can say. I think if it's a
Speaker 5: good joke, you can say a lot. And I don't
Speaker 5: think it's I don't think a comedian. I don't think
Speaker 5: comedians are getting that canceled for.
Speaker 7: But I don't know.
Speaker 5: But I think it's too instantaneous, the U, because we
Speaker 5: would always we wait a week to tell all that
Speaker 5: here's your entertainment news, and then here's some clips from
Speaker 5: reality shows. And I think that stuff is up. Maybe
Speaker 5: if we did it all TikTok every day, every ten minutes.
Speaker 7: But I don't, I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I mean, no one's tuning into television uh on time seemingly,
Speaker 5: or maybe they do.
Speaker 2: You're right.
Speaker 3: And also everyone's watching so many different things that unless
Speaker 3: it's one of the the sort of three things everybody's
Speaker 3: talking about that week, no one. People don't have the
Speaker 3: reference mayb.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I mean, but SNL is huge, right, so they're I
Speaker 5: don't know, but they're doing sketches more than a click, right,
Speaker 5: But it could maybe it could. But he was turning
Speaker 5: in on itself when I when I.
Speaker 1: Was fired, You guys were you guys were like memes
Speaker 1: before they were memes, you guys.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it was kind of like it was TikTok before
Speaker 10: it was TikTok, you know what I mean, Like we
Speaker 10: used to we used to watch I used to watch
Speaker 10: it to see people stumble and fall and make fun
Speaker 10: of it and then you make fun of them, you
Speaker 10: know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like that was the that was the purpose of the show.
Speaker 1: And now I watched and now I watched Facebook or
Speaker 1: Instagram or TikTok, and people are just doing the soup
Speaker 1: all by the you know what I mean, they got
Speaker 1: they're superimposing themselves all to the background and everything doing
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. We used to do. Yeah, I think there
Speaker 1: is a space. I think there is a space for it.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know that you want to
Speaker 1: do it, but I think there's a donald.
Speaker 3: Do you remember this is so.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we have chicks Man, chicks Man. There wasn't like
Speaker 5: when he had Joan and Chelsea and me and we
Speaker 5: had a real comedy brand. And then Joan died, Chelsea left,
Speaker 5: and then the network was turning in on itself.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, this is all going away very quickly.
Speaker 3: I don't even know what he does anymore.
Speaker 5: At the House of Villains on E hosted by this guy, Thank.
Speaker 7: You, Joel, Joel, thank you for remembering.
Speaker 3: Another show.
Speaker 1: You just sat here and talked about how E was
Speaker 1: turning on itself and how they didn't know what they're doing,
Speaker 1: and yet they hired you again.
Speaker 2: Well, Donald, let me explain.
Speaker 1: So I was talking to the lead singer.
Speaker 2: No, here's wait, what's what's a house?
Speaker 5: The villains is on E But when I was offered
Speaker 5: the job, because you know, it's straight to offers, guys,
Speaker 5: I'm leaning right in. Uh No, it's uh because they
Speaker 5: were Annie was still there. She's not there anymore. She
Speaker 5: was like, Hey, everybody who fired you has been fired
Speaker 5: and the people the people were cool again.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, and so we take all.
Speaker 5: The the people that did best on reality shows and
Speaker 5: who were considered the most evil or the most uh
Speaker 5: rough and uh you know who caused the most friction,
Speaker 5: and we get all those people together in one house,
Speaker 5: and we have them compete for money. Uh.
Speaker 7: And so it's called, yeah, a bunch of villains. They
Speaker 7: let me say whatever I want.
Speaker 5: And I was like, we include like when planes are
Speaker 5: flying over and you can't hear audio speak speaking too
Speaker 5: precious people of their audio, and we show people stumbling
Speaker 5: and falling that you me screwing up my teleprompter. So
Speaker 5: it's competing to see who is because all these players,
Speaker 5: like someone like Johnny Bananas from the Challenge are very
Speaker 5: good at what they do. And then you also get
Speaker 5: like Teresa Judais who's really good on TV and really
Speaker 5: can be really funny, or like Tiffany Pollard, who's really
Speaker 5: television gold. And so you get you get that group
Speaker 5: of folks and they're TV. They're very savvy on TV
Speaker 5: and uh, it's it's are we just completed our well,
Speaker 5: it's our second season is running right now.
Speaker 3: I just watched what's the show that's like Mafia, the Sopranos, Mafia.
Speaker 3: They the game Mafia, Joelle, what's that show where they
Speaker 3: all compete celebrities? Yeah, talking about Traders, thank you. It's
Speaker 3: called Traders.
Speaker 5: They had a lot we were on actually before Traders,
Speaker 5: and Traders really has done very well and we would
Speaker 5: like some.
Speaker 2: Of their work, so we ye Traders.
Speaker 3: Traders took a lot of villains and and uh from
Speaker 3: from reality to us and put them on this show
Speaker 3: where they could sort of compete to survive and it's
Speaker 3: pretty funny, entertaining.
Speaker 5: So we actually hope our opening monologue was everybody who
Speaker 5: wasn't on Traders is here.
Speaker 2: So thanks.
Speaker 7: That's a really good show.
Speaker 1: Though, let's take a break.
Speaker 3: We'll be right back after these fine words. We got
Speaker 3: to talk about one of your most beloved things of
Speaker 3: all time. Community. It's your agent, remember, I think.
Speaker 1: Everybody that's kind of hard to forget.
Speaker 3: No, that is a very beloved show that produced so
Speaker 3: many talented.
Speaker 2: People on.
Speaker 1: Daniel PODi.
Speaker 7: Yes, no, yes, no, there's so many.
Speaker 3: I was watching it recently on a plane. I watched
Speaker 3: the pilot again on a plane, and it's just amazing
Speaker 3: to see how many incredibly talented people came out of
Speaker 3: that where we're born out of that of that cast.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I mean too bad for Donald Glover, but
Speaker 5: everybody else did well.
Speaker 3: He'll be okay. I think he's going to be okay.
Speaker 3: One thing we have in common is that people have
Speaker 3: always asked, is there going to be some sort of
Speaker 3: reincarnation of the show? Ours is all talk, but it
Speaker 3: looks like you guys have a script and are really
Speaker 3: making a movie.
Speaker 2: We really are.
Speaker 5: It's it's very similar to the Scrubs movie that you
Speaker 5: guys have been trying to make forever. But no, it's
Speaker 5: we have Peacock has given us the money. We have
Speaker 5: the green light to make the movie. So that was
Speaker 5: the hardest part, and everybody is agreed. We were supposed
Speaker 5: to shoot it last June, I ruined it and couldn't do.
Speaker 1: It because you had a television show, right.
Speaker 5: No, I had three and uh that's what's thank you,
Speaker 5: thank you so much, kidd four and so uh what
Speaker 5: a dick. But no, but so I we.
Speaker 2: Are going to do it.
Speaker 5: I hopefully it'll be in twenty twenty five and then
Speaker 5: come out in next holiday season.
Speaker 2: Is my is my fantasy. It's hope.
Speaker 3: Must be so hard to schedule all you guys, because
Speaker 3: you're all doing so well and that and of course
Speaker 3: you are not exaggerating of so many shows and how
Speaker 3: do you so that's the Have you guys found a
Speaker 3: time to making it for the fans who love the show.
Speaker 3: There is actually going to be a bit.
Speaker 2: There will be a movie.
Speaker 7: Yes, it's we're circling in on the time.
Speaker 5: It won't take too long to shoot because because we'll
Speaker 5: be were like, we can't. We just need to we
Speaker 5: it's got to be a truncated schedule. And but what
Speaker 5: we have to we have to all be there. That's
Speaker 5: the only caveat. It can't be like we.
Speaker 7: Shot the one side of that scene when once his
Speaker 7: name was in Thailand, and then this other side was
Speaker 7: shot in Toronto like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I think that arrested development. Like when
Speaker 3: they came back, they tried to they had to do
Speaker 3: something like that, and I remember them being trying to
Speaker 3: figure out a way to shoot the show that where
Speaker 3: they weren't all together, and I remember feeling like that
Speaker 3: was not as as good as the Multigether.
Speaker 5: I mean, obviously it was one of the greatest shows
Speaker 5: of all time, but yeah, you sometimes you can tell
Speaker 5: what that stuff and yeah.
Speaker 3: Now you've been outspoken about a certain cast member. He
Speaker 3: probably won't be back on a Sandy.
Speaker 1: Yes, but he didn't last throughout that. He didn't last.
Speaker 1: He didn't last at a show either though. Man, I
Speaker 1: know that he.
Speaker 3: Left, but I'm just saying, like, I know, you're not
Speaker 3: going to do something fire. Yeah he didn't. That must
Speaker 3: have been hard because it's a weird balance of like, wow,
Speaker 3: this is a living legend, but he's driving us all nuts.
Speaker 1: Yep. Uh, there's no other way to put it other than.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess no.
Speaker 5: And he you know, he was really really funny and
Speaker 5: when the thing when the camera was on him and
Speaker 5: he was doing his thing, it was he was incredible.
Speaker 3: And uh, but.
Speaker 2: You know, he said that.
Speaker 7: I mean, I literally have a part in my book
Speaker 7: thank You.
Speaker 5: It's called Thanks Thanks for the Money, came out eight
Speaker 5: years ago where you know I talk about fighting him and.
Speaker 2: Uh physically fighting yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: We did it all the time, and and he he
Speaker 5: just didn't want to be there. He didn't like the hours,
Speaker 5: and I you know, you know the hours on something
Speaker 5: crazy is yea is they're they're endless. And but I
Speaker 5: was like, the hours are always the hours. I mean,
Speaker 5: if you're it is going to be what that That's
Speaker 5: how it always was. We weren't making a four camera sitcom,
Speaker 5: and so he didn't want to be there, and then
Speaker 5: eventually he wasn't And uh.
Speaker 1: So that's really interesting.
Speaker 2: He's really fun.
Speaker 7: Could you watch him on camera? I mean, he's a
Speaker 7: he's a bona fide movie star for real.
Speaker 1: Look at SNL. He only did one season at SNL
Speaker 1: and he's one of the most popular and no cast
Speaker 1: members ever. You know, there's something special about him, obviously,
Speaker 1: But same thing with SNL. People had a hard time
Speaker 1: with him there too, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 1: not like it's not like Chevy Chase is walking around
Speaker 1: with the best reputation on.
Speaker 2: The I know they talked.
Speaker 5: They all talk about him, so I mean, I he's
Speaker 5: all those like real a list like he made. He
Speaker 5: was the highest paid star of the eighties. I mean
Speaker 5: he made more than Eddie Murphy, which is saying, which
Speaker 5: is incredible. And I mean those vacation movies and flip
Speaker 5: between fl I mean there were but then you know,
Speaker 5: he you know, we get to this little DN show
Speaker 5: that didn't become really popular until after it was canceled
Speaker 5: twice and off the air. That so, yeah, it's all fine.
Speaker 3: I wonder if he I wonder if he enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: Sounds like he was miserable, and I wonder if he
Speaker 3: enjoyed making those eighties movies. I wonder, I wonder if
Speaker 3: he was a happier fellow than I you know, I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's for you to answer. I just
Speaker 3: wonder out loud, like, you know, if he if you know,
Speaker 3: when he was, when he was at the top of
Speaker 3: his game, if he was you know, movies have crazy
Speaker 3: hours too. Maybe I wonder if he enjoyed it more.
Speaker 5: I think he definitely had a fastball then that. And
Speaker 5: you know, I I think he loved being a movie star,
Speaker 5: and who the who wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Who wouldn't love being a movie star? Right? That sounds
Speaker 1: like such a fucking you know, I'm gonna say something.
Speaker 1: We I think we all and a lot of the
Speaker 1: guests that we've had on the show, we all come
Speaker 1: from an era of television where you had to fucking
Speaker 1: fight really hard to keep your popular show going. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean, all of us. It's the conversation
Speaker 1: that so many people are having when they come on
Speaker 1: our show. It's always, well, you guys were a hit, right, No,
Speaker 1: we weren't a hit until season three, or we weren't
Speaker 1: a hit until the end of season one, or you know,
Speaker 1: it's very rare that we've had someone on the show
Speaker 1: that has come in and been like, I haven't I've
Speaker 1: never been on the show. It was a blessing all
Speaker 1: the way through. We did twelve seasons. It was easy.
Speaker 1: That isn't the conversation, and a lot of people feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, the success story is the fact that I
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm starting to ramble now, but the success story, hey,
Speaker 1: we've been on for nine seasons. They don't know about
Speaker 1: the blood, sweat and tears that went in between that shit.
Speaker 1: Bill Lawrence had to work really hard. We had to
Speaker 1: switch networks to get to where we were. You guys
Speaker 1: were canceled three times, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: some way the showrunner found a way to get it
Speaker 1: back on. It's fucking amazing man.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well the showrunner was fired then yea.
Speaker 2: How many seasons did Dan not do?
Speaker 5: And then I and then I quit and said I'm
Speaker 5: not coming back unless Dan comes back, and then they
Speaker 5: thankfully allowed you know, Dan came back. I mean, the
Speaker 5: fact that Dan William would come back was a lot,
Speaker 5: and but the show wasn't the same even though you.
Speaker 3: Know, yeah, that season that he wasn't there. What season
Speaker 3: is Do you find that that's the fans like that
Speaker 3: one the least?
Speaker 5: I Yeah, I would say like, but there's some people
Speaker 5: that are like, it's you guys are all still great
Speaker 5: on I'll be like, oh, thank you, I'll take that.
Speaker 7: Some of it was we kept celebrating a lot.
Speaker 5: Of holidays that season, but there was a lot of
Speaker 5: those holiday episodes. But but some people are like, hey,
Speaker 5: it's great, and I'm like, well take it. But no,
Speaker 5: I do not think I personally don't think it has
Speaker 5: the same feeling as the other five. But but but
Speaker 5: I agree with Don, very much agree with Don that
Speaker 5: there's only like you can count them on your hands,
Speaker 5: where some shows were shot out of a canyon cannon,
Speaker 5: like Friends or something, where it was like it was
Speaker 5: a hit, all Modern Family, a hit from the beginning.
Speaker 2: All the way through.
Speaker 5: Uh, you can make the argument that like Glee shot
Speaker 5: out of a cannon and then kind of faded, Yeah,
Speaker 5: tapered off, but still very popular. But you know, you're
Speaker 5: always now in this environment, there's not as many episodes,
Speaker 5: so you like you get two seasons maybe or if
Speaker 5: you're really lucky, but it's just so difficult to keep
Speaker 5: those plates spinning. And uh. And when I you know,
Speaker 5: I hear people go like, well, you're just on a show,
Speaker 5: And then you're on a show, I'm like, you out.
Speaker 2: Of your mind.
Speaker 5: We're constantly building a ship while it's in a storm
Speaker 5: on the water.
Speaker 1: We are fucking shit is sinking and I'm trying to build.
Speaker 2: That is happening every week.
Speaker 5: And we were like this episode that is beloved Dungeons
Speaker 5: and Dragons, like Dan was told.
Speaker 7: After we read that script, they were like, oh, no.
Speaker 5: One likes dungeons and dragons, we should do something else,
Speaker 5: and they're like what, and so that's those.
Speaker 1: Sorts of Lord of the Rings.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that stuff happens. I'm sure.
Speaker 3: Right, let's talk about animal control because one of your current.
Speaker 7: Three to air January something.
Speaker 3: Is it true that Sarah Chalk is on this season?
Speaker 5: Yes, she's been on two seasons and uh, talk about
Speaker 5: a difficult person who's not talented.
Speaker 3: About it, talk about she was Chevy Chase.
Speaker 2: Untalented.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's listen, I don't care. I don't care how
Speaker 3: bad your Chevy stories were.
Speaker 2: So oh my gosh.
Speaker 5: She she she created the Proud Boys.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: That's what I heard.
Speaker 3: She's she's trying to start She's trying to start a
Speaker 3: Vancouver brands she was.
Speaker 2: She created that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, she created the next cult I think up there.
Speaker 2: Does she play your love interest? She does, Yes, that hussy.
Speaker 3: I can't tell you how many love interests that hussy
Speaker 3: has played.
Speaker 2: She was how I met your mother. She was a
Speaker 2: love interest.
Speaker 1: She's a little hottie.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: It does a reason. There's a reason.
Speaker 3: She is hot and fun.
Speaker 5: I think you would call her like they call Dan
Speaker 5: Marino in the eighties.
Speaker 2: She is the cant like he was called the Candy
Speaker 2: Store because they.
Speaker 5: Just she had he had every skill and every She's
Speaker 5: so funny, talented, kind, normal, beautiful.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's really pisses me off.
Speaker 3: Do you get to have quality time with wacky animals
Speaker 3: because I really like exotic animals.
Speaker 5: Yes, we they're around a lot. And then there's the
Speaker 5: animals that are to terrifying but also sweet.
Speaker 2: And then we had a.
Speaker 5: Sloth who which that sounds like a lot of well
Speaker 5: the sloth was really I had a slough one time
Speaker 5: that was really like cuddly and all that, and then
Speaker 5: this other sloth. They were like this, They're like, this
Speaker 5: is the best on camera sloth we have. He'll do
Speaker 5: exactly what we say. But everyone, but everyone believes the
Speaker 5: sloths are friendly and slow. And the guy was like,
Speaker 5: this one is neither. And they're like they were like,
Speaker 5: let him do his thing. He's going to do his thing.
Speaker 5: You if you get it, If you bother him, she's
Speaker 5: going to cut your finger off. And and he they
Speaker 5: were not wrong. That thing was it was I.
Speaker 1: Was hoping you'd hold up your hand and it was
Speaker 1: like missing two fingers like they were not It was.
Speaker 2: It was great. It was terrifying.
Speaker 3: So you had you had a bad encounter with the sloth.
Speaker 3: I've never heard of him.
Speaker 2: I had a.
Speaker 5: Great experience, but I did not. They were like, don't
Speaker 5: put your hand near its face.
Speaker 2: But then I feel.
Speaker 3: Like, if if a sloth came for you, you could
Speaker 3: just just slowly.
Speaker 2: Know they slow, they wanted to slow. They're like I
Speaker 2: watched this baseball players.
Speaker 5: They just sit around and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: they're like, what the what happened?
Speaker 1: I was about to do. I was about to say
Speaker 1: that they're like athletes. Athletes just sit around and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, out of nowhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, got there.
Speaker 3: I saw some nature video where a sloth was like
Speaker 3: booty calling. They were like calling each other. And then
Speaker 3: he took his time and he swam across and he
Speaker 3: finally climbed up the tree, and and the chick sloth
Speaker 3: already had a man there like he he had taken.
Speaker 2: Too much job.
Speaker 3: It was too late.
Speaker 2: Here's the funniest video I ever saw. Wow, that's it
Speaker 2: sounds like a Hallmark movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love slough, I know that.
Speaker 5: And it was like, also, this sloth was as big
Speaker 5: as a like a full grown golden retriever.
Speaker 2: It was huge. It was I mean, I.
Speaker 1: Thought they were like bear size for some reason, I
Speaker 1: thought sloss for like bear size.
Speaker 2: No, they're they're there.
Speaker 5: They're as bad as big Yeah, there was bad as
Speaker 5: big as big dogs. And the one I also had
Speaker 5: a tiny little one who was super cute and cuddly. Anyway, nuts.
Speaker 1: So because of this show, have you found yourself very
Speaker 1: interested in exotic animals? Do you own any exotic animals? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do you have a crazy?
Speaker 2: Do you have a bubbles? Do you have a bubbles?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think it's bubbles.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I said he's a bubble, which would be a bubble.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have a I have a couple of snow
Speaker 5: leopards that I just checked in my.
Speaker 2: Luggage, brought them down from Canada.
Speaker 5: No, uh no, I I did on The Great Indoors,
Speaker 5: which was a sitcom I did. There was a pug
Speaker 5: to which when this character at a puppy pug and
Speaker 5: I was like, that's coming home with me, and yeah,
Speaker 5: and that pug.
Speaker 2: Is still well, it's our beloved pug.
Speaker 1: Let's take a break.
Speaker 3: We'll be right back after these fine words. That you've
Speaker 3: been married a long time.
Speaker 7: Huh, this is a weird transition.
Speaker 3: But no, you were just talking about your family. You
Speaker 3: gestured to your family and your home. So I many
Speaker 3: think that's not your wife, that your wife's funeral.
Speaker 2: No, haven't, haven't you.
Speaker 3: You're the rare Hollywood guy who's been married for thirty years.
Speaker 7: I have been with my wife for thirty married for
Speaker 7: twenty eight.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's incredible.
Speaker 2: What's your secret?
Speaker 5: Well, Uh, you know, I'm the patriarch and I'm kind of,
Speaker 5: you know, the boss, and I tell her what to do,
Speaker 5: and I screen what she reads. And our house has
Speaker 5: its own religion. We don't pay taxes, and you know. No,
Speaker 5: what is the secret? Well, she's very patient. Uh you're
Speaker 5: you seem like a big personality.
Speaker 7: Yes, it's extremely annoying all the time.
Speaker 5: My wife is the queen and I am the vassal,
Speaker 5: not not the king.
Speaker 7: She is the queen and everybody else is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's I believe me.
Speaker 5: When I met her, I was like, I'm going to
Speaker 5: try to let it was like the old trying to
Speaker 5: land a marlin.
Speaker 2: In the Gulf of Mexico, Like this is going.
Speaker 5: To be very difficult for she's she was so far
Speaker 5: above my station that I got her. I can somehow
Speaker 5: tricked her into dating me, and I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: so I got very very lucky. Yeah, I guess the
Speaker 5: secret is cocaine, A lot of cocaine.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say cocaine and sex.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just keep Donald.
Speaker 3: Also lets his his wife sort of be the queen
Speaker 3: and run the Roostah. She she wrangles him, right, Donald, I.
Speaker 1: Learned at a very very very young age in this
Speaker 1: relationship if I wanted to work, there's certain things that
Speaker 1: she likes to that she likes, and that's control.
Speaker 7: I remember when you guys were dating, when like we
Speaker 7: were playing basketball, and I remember thinking, wow, Donald, is
Speaker 7: he's out of his league.
Speaker 2: But here, here we go.
Speaker 1: I am very very very very very much aware that
Speaker 1: I am out of my league.
Speaker 2: He had to work hard to woo her.
Speaker 5: I think, you know, when you get on TV, people think,
Speaker 5: oh my gosh, you guys are if you've done so well,
Speaker 5: and they're so lucky, and you're like, once you get
Speaker 5: past that part, actors are pretty stupid and boring, and
Speaker 5: so then why once you get past then you know,
Speaker 5: and that's why so lucky.
Speaker 1: My wife is in entertainment though, man, she was like
Speaker 1: she knew, I don't know man, my wife, I don't
Speaker 1: know you. You said you were very lucky and you,
Speaker 1: your wife is the queen. I come to a very
Speaker 1: realization at a very I'm very well aware my life
Speaker 1: would be ship if I didn't let her take control.
Speaker 2: Happy wife, your happy life.
Speaker 3: Truly, that's a perfect segue to talk about the Bear
Speaker 3: Jrol Michale. Well, thank you another hit show that Joel
Speaker 3: is on. How did that come about? Because I was
Speaker 3: excited to see you play an asshole? You you normally no,
Speaker 3: you play a wise ass, but I mean, this was
Speaker 3: a dramatic part. This was a really frightening character for
Speaker 3: for the for the for the main protagonist.
Speaker 2: How did that? How did that come out?
Speaker 3: I thought it was really inspired casting, and I thought
Speaker 3: it was I thought you were I think you're really
Speaker 3: great on the show.
Speaker 5: Now it made me feel weird, But thank you very
Speaker 5: much that I got, once again, extremely lucky because Chris Storer,
Speaker 5: who created that show, who was a freaking genius.
Speaker 3: Yeah he's so talented that Yeah he is.
Speaker 7: Gillian Jacob's long term boyfriend. And so we started getting
Speaker 7: to know each other during community.
Speaker 5: Also a fantastic chef truly, like he could have he
Speaker 5: could have had his own restaurants a thousand times.
Speaker 3: Oh, is that where his interest in the subject came from?
Speaker 7: I didn't know, yes, But at the same time, like
Speaker 7: he wrote this script, this movie script where I was.
Speaker 5: I read it and I was like, when did this?
Speaker 5: I literally I was about a basketball coach, and I
Speaker 5: was like, when did this happen? He goes I made
Speaker 5: it up and I was like what. I was like,
Speaker 5: that's how good he is. So anyway, Chris asked, because
Speaker 5: the Bear started three and a half years ago, and
Speaker 5: he just said, well, you play this guy and I
Speaker 5: will do anything for him.
Speaker 7: And at the time, you know, when the show were were, I.
Speaker 2: Was in the pilot.
Speaker 5: So look there was like two trucks parked outside and
Speaker 5: we're shooting in a restaurant till it opened that evening,
Speaker 5: and you know, it's one of those things where you
Speaker 5: know you do with zillion jobs. You're like, well, that
Speaker 5: was really fun and Jeremy was really really good, and
Speaker 5: I hope this works and good luck to you guys.
Speaker 2: And I So I only appeared in.
Speaker 7: One episode in each season, so it wasn't like I
Speaker 7: was a series regular.
Speaker 2: And anyway.
Speaker 5: So I was just lucky to get in there. And
Speaker 5: then on this third season, you know that he wrote
Speaker 5: that scene and I was like, holy crap, I hope
Speaker 5: I don't fuck this one up. And then Jeremy is
Speaker 5: he's such an extraordinary performer and that so I was
Speaker 5: I got all. I got so much from him, so
Speaker 5: I got it was really fun to do, and then
Speaker 5: you know, the show exploded. It was to go watch
Speaker 5: a show to be like two trucks and now there's
Speaker 5: twenty trucks and there's people across the street trying to
Speaker 5: get a glimpse of Jeremy and like crowd control. And
Speaker 5: I was like, ah, this is this show's the show's
Speaker 5: doing Okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really blew up, man, it really blew up.
Speaker 3: And there's so much love it and there's so much
Speaker 3: talent in the cast. I really really across the board.
Speaker 3: It's such it's such a unique, uh group of people.
Speaker 2: For story Back, he brought all that together and he is,
Speaker 2: he really did.
Speaker 3: And he directs. How about all of them are he's
Speaker 3: for most of them?
Speaker 7: I don't know the ones I've been in he's directed, so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, at least three.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Joelle will look that up for us. I
Speaker 3: forgot if he directs all of them or most of them.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, this is a show that I don't watch.
Speaker 3: So yeah, Donald doesn't watch The Bear.
Speaker 7: But you know all that there's all that twenty one
Speaker 7: pilot music in it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if there were more twenty one pilot music in it. Donald,
Speaker 3: the Blanchet did makes me up, makes me believe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty one pilots.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my favorite. One that thinks whatever it takes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: makes me up believe. I believe.
Speaker 4: Christopher's directed nineteen episodes, but he's also given episodes Toronto
Speaker 4: yusuf I, owe A Debris and Duco Fabri and Joanna
Speaker 4: Halo has also done six episodes.
Speaker 7: And his sister thinks like the Chief Food Consultant.
Speaker 3: And yeah, the food is done. I mean the food
Speaker 3: is its own character obviously. The way it's shot and
Speaker 3: the way that they make it, it's real. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: like a It's like it makes me think, and is
Speaker 3: it really over? Is it just three? And now it's over?
Speaker 3: I have no idea. Oh, you don't know, you're just
Speaker 3: trying to come in.
Speaker 2: I don't know im. Yeah, you believe me. I'll I'll
Speaker 2: drop everything to do it because it's so much fun
Speaker 2: and stuff.
Speaker 3: So you do you ever want to direct anything?
Speaker 5: I think I'd be terrible at it, So I I
Speaker 5: don't have I don't have the Zach Braff brain even
Speaker 5: have the patience.
Speaker 3: It does take some patience, and it does take anxiety management,
Speaker 3: which is the real I.
Speaker 5: Think I would forget to do most shots. I'd be
Speaker 5: They're like, do you want to get a wide of this?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 1: Now, let's do it.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 2: if I would be good at coverage or yeah, it's
Speaker 2: a lot to think about, and i'd be I think
Speaker 2: i'd be.
Speaker 1: Without naming names, have either one of you worked for
Speaker 1: a director that was more difficult than an actor? Without
Speaker 1: naming names, what do you mean that he that he
Speaker 1: or she like the director was late every day, or
Speaker 1: the director didn't have a shot list or a plan
Speaker 1: for the shoot and was relying on the crew.
Speaker 2: Or yeah, okay, yeah, yeah a million times.
Speaker 3: Not necessarily we.
Speaker 5: Had a director in community which I won't say, but
Speaker 5: they did not actually get coverage and we had to
Speaker 5: go back and get a bunch of stuff when they
Speaker 5: weren't there.
Speaker 3: Wow, Yeah, I mean to do a master We definitely
Speaker 3: had directors on scrubs in all those years where I
Speaker 3: was like, why we have so many there's so many
Speaker 3: talented people. Why is this person here fumbling us through
Speaker 3: the week in a really ineffective way? You know that? Donald?
Speaker 3: Do you remember that?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I've worked with I've worked with directors that were
Speaker 1: late for work.
Speaker 2: That is not just that is just that is unforgivable.
Speaker 1: I mean, but not just like five minutes late, like
Speaker 1: an hour late, like the actors are sitting on set
Speaker 1: waiting to do the Uh. You know, you get to
Speaker 1: set in the morning and you do this, you practice
Speaker 1: the scene before you go to the trailer and put
Speaker 1: makeup on and everything waiting on set in full makeup
Speaker 1: and hair. I have never ready to block and shoot,
Speaker 1: ready to block, ready to block the scene.
Speaker 3: That never happened to me.
Speaker 1: That's happened.
Speaker 2: What did you say when they walked in?
Speaker 1: Nothing?
Speaker 3: Does anyone have any blow?
Speaker 1: Now? The director walked in and was like, you blocked
Speaker 1: this without me?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say, and that Maybe I wouldn't actually
Speaker 5: do this in the in the moment, but I would.
Speaker 5: If we're a TV show. I would have that person fired.
Speaker 5: I'd be like, unless they're unless there was a catastrog
Speaker 5: accident or.
Speaker 2: Something and some but I would be like, we're not
Speaker 2: doing this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 3: I was like, Wow, okay, all right, Joel, you're a legend.
Speaker 3: We appreciate your time. We know you're a busy man
Speaker 3: because you got to go do four shows just to.
Speaker 7: Well, here's what I can tell about Zach.
Speaker 5: I know you're a director, and you must be a
Speaker 5: good director because you keep these freaking trains on time.
Speaker 3: Well, Donald will have a yem Yang thing because Donald
Speaker 3: smokes a lot of weed and he goes off on tangents.
Speaker 3: And then my job is to be a little bit
Speaker 3: of like steer the ship.
Speaker 7: All I ask in favor is that maybe we go
Speaker 7: to all to go to dinner sometime.
Speaker 3: I would love to. You're you're a very funny man.
Speaker 2: Let's let's see.
Speaker 3: I'll pay for it.
Speaker 1: I'm rich. You make me wonder you got a lot
Speaker 1: of shows.
Speaker 3: Yeah, with all those Oh you better be rich. Yeah,
Speaker 3: those kids better be in Gucci sneakers.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they're so lucky. They look great.
Speaker 1: We missed a lot, man, We could have got into
Speaker 1: a lot. That dude's been in so much stuff.
Speaker 3: I know, but you know, we did an hour with him,
Speaker 3: and I don't want to you know, we don't like
Speaker 3: to push it. We asked people to come on for
Speaker 3: an hour, and we like them to We like to
Speaker 3: keep our word.
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, But man.
Speaker 3: He's got a lot of energy and he does so much.
Speaker 3: It makes me want to hustle harder. I don't think
Speaker 3: I'm hustling hard enough.
Speaker 1: I know I'm not hustling hard enough right now. But
Speaker 1: I've got a plan. I'm gonna make this little short
Speaker 1: and then, you know whatever, I.
Speaker 3: Do like game shows and shit like that. I mean,
Speaker 3: you could be hosting a Villains of a Villain house. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, we used to do the occasional game show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I you know how it is, man, I
Speaker 1: do you like to work, which is very true, But
Speaker 1: I want to work on things that I'm that I
Speaker 1: feel great about now. You know what I mean too.
Speaker 3: And if it sounds like Joel was just saying he
Speaker 3: just says yes to everything.
Speaker 1: That's what he said. He said. That's what he said
Speaker 1: was saying. But that's fine. Some people really really like
Speaker 1: to do that I don't know. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's for me, But I'm not going to
Speaker 1: be mad at anybody for saying yes to work. Work
Speaker 1: is work, and no, I know, I don't.
Speaker 3: I'm just thinking my version of it, like I miss
Speaker 3: working more and I want to work more, and I
Speaker 3: but I don't want to just do something I don't like.
Speaker 3: I would never do something that I don't have an
Speaker 3: interest in watching right or or or or I don't know.
Speaker 3: I guess I am precious about associating myself with something
Speaker 3: that I don't think is his quality. I don't want
Speaker 3: to work just to work.
Speaker 1: I used to not give a shit, but now I
Speaker 1: really do care about what it is that I do.
Speaker 1: I think the next thing. I think the next thing
Speaker 1: is the most important thing, regardless of what I just
Speaker 1: recently did, you know, And I want the next thing
Speaker 1: to be better now, Whereas before it's like I just
Speaker 1: want quantity, quantity, quantity, and now I'm all about Now
Speaker 1: it's like I just want to do something.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: You have You're lucky that you have that ability and
Speaker 3: that blessing to be able to do that. A lot
Speaker 3: of people, I mean, the town is very slow right now,
Speaker 3: and a lot of people are not working and need
Speaker 3: work and are suffering. Crew members and actors.
Speaker 1: What's going on? Can I ask you what's going on?
Speaker 1: Because there seems to be a show coming out every week,
Speaker 1: but then you listen to our contemporaries and we're not working. Man.
Speaker 3: I think the town is still very slow post you know,
Speaker 3: when you factor in post COVID, post strike, multiple strikes,
Speaker 3: I don't think the town has fully recovered. Los Angeles
Speaker 3: certainly hasn't recovered. I think more and more jobs are
Speaker 3: not in Los Angeles. The governor just signed a new
Speaker 3: version of the tax incentive to try and keep more
Speaker 3: work in town. But as we all know, most jobs
Speaker 3: are going out of state for tax incentives Canada and Atlanta, Georgia.
Speaker 1: So it behooves you to live in like Austin, Texas? Now?
Speaker 6: Is that to know?
Speaker 3: If it behooves you to live in Austin, Texas? I
Speaker 3: think I just think that, you know. I think the
Speaker 3: strike gave the studios and opportunity to sort of reframe
Speaker 3: their attitudes towards production and slow everything down and just
Speaker 3: sort of clear the slate, clear deals, catch their breath.
Speaker 3: I mean, I would imagine their shareholders want them to
Speaker 3: recoup the money they lost. I'm making all this up,
Speaker 3: by the way. I'm not a pundent on the entertainment business.
Speaker 3: I'm just rambling. But I do think that I would
Speaker 3: assume there's a mandate to sort of recoup all the
Speaker 3: money it was lost for the strike. Danel your thoughts probably.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's the same thing with like record deals.
Speaker 3: At a certain point people want the money that they
Speaker 3: spent on certain things back. But I definitely echo the
Speaker 3: sentiment of Camember, the writer's name, but he wrote American
Speaker 3: fiction about how why do we spend so much time
Speaker 3: making one hundred million dollar movies instead of making ten
Speaker 3: ten million dollar movies. It's like, not everything needs to
Speaker 3: be as big of a gamble. It'd be better if
Speaker 3: you did. But but but but for the theatrical space,
Speaker 3: it kind of does right now. I mean, the things
Speaker 3: that people are going to see and talk about are
Speaker 3: and we're talking about They're talking about Wick Kids, we're
Speaker 3: talking about Gladiator two, and.
Speaker 1: We're talking about the next Marvel movie, Captain America. That's
Speaker 1: what it's all really big. You can't, it's I can't.
Speaker 1: I mean, Zach tried to release a movie in theaters,
Speaker 1: and that was he found out how difficult that was,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it never really truly found its audience until
Speaker 3: it was on Prime, which it was. Then it fucking
Speaker 3: crushed Donald. We can't end the episode without discussing something
Speaker 3: you might not even know because it's on the interwebs
Speaker 3: this morning, that Denzel Washington will be in the I know,
Speaker 3: Black Panther.
Speaker 1: Movie and he's also going to retire. And he's also
Speaker 1: going to retire.
Speaker 3: But I thought that Denzel in that stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's bound to happen. If Harrison Ford
Speaker 1: is in fucking Marble, Denzel is, if fucking Russell Crowe
Speaker 1: is in Marble, Denzel eventually will it has to be
Speaker 1: because it's just, I mean, he can't finish the career
Speaker 1: without that. But now he's saying he's going to retire
Speaker 1: after that ship.
Speaker 3: I don't believe that.
Speaker 1: I don't want it to happen. How about that. I've
Speaker 1: been in I've been in a movie with Denzel Washington,
Speaker 1: But really we didn't know, and I still when he's
Speaker 1: when I heard he said he was going to retire,
Speaker 1: part of me was like, I'm not gonna get the
Speaker 1: chance to work with Denzel. I'm not gonna have an
Speaker 1: opportunity to work with Denzel.
Speaker 3: Well, I think that you're going to be in Black Panther.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm manifesting for you.
Speaker 1: I would love that. Ryan, call me, Bro, You're.
Speaker 3: Gonna be Black Panther Cub. You're gonna be, You're gonna be,
Speaker 3: You're gonna be Denzel's little cub.
Speaker 1: You know, I got a lot of Nigerian in my blood,
Speaker 1: which is which is you know, very West African. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Well, I know Ryan, but I'll call him right now.
Speaker 5: But you know.
Speaker 1: I don't get called in for the for them rolls.
Speaker 3: Well maybe will say, you know, I get.
Speaker 1: Called in for I get called in for the best
Speaker 1: friend role.
Speaker 3: Well, Donzel is going to need a best friend in
Speaker 3: in in Wakanda.
Speaker 1: It'll probably be somebody else.
Speaker 3: All right, what a show? Thank you?
Speaker 1: I have at times?
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