1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay, Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Thursday edition of Clay and Buck starts 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: right now. Thanks for joining us, everybody from all across 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: this great nation of ours. We've got a whole bunch 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: of show for you today, and it's going to be 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: something that we really have to all savor together because 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: our friend mister Clay is departing tomorrow for the land 8 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: of pasta and beautiful architecture. He is going to Italy. 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: I guess the homeland of those things, so I'll be 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: solo next week. Clay, I know you've got bags packed, 11 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: or rather missus Travis probably has bags packed you. I 12 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: assume we're a late packer, but we'll see if that's 13 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: true or not. You can let us know how that's 14 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: going along. I'm a late packer, so I'm a last 15 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: minute guy. I want to tell everybody you wanted to 16 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: weigh in on the packing situation. A lot of news 17 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: to tell everybody about a lot of people reacting in belief. 18 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: My wife has decreed that everybody only gets one backpack, 19 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: and my backpack is packed. I have ten shirts, ten 20 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: pairs of underwear, two pairs of pants, one pair of shoes. 21 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: I'm good to go. Like that's that's a two brush deodorant. 22 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: That's all in NF fleas. I'm ready to roll. So 23 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: today we're going to go through all of the news 24 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: of the day with you because you know tomorrow obviously 25 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: Clay will be out. So we're having having a deep 26 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: dive into all things that matter right now. We've got 27 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: Senator Marsha Blackburn joining us at one pm, Senator rand 28 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: Paul joining us at two pm. I've got a range 29 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: of topics we want to discuss with them. We also 30 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:45,279 Speaker 1: have the Biden budget is out and Joe Biden today 31 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: will be speaking. I think in the third hour of 32 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: the show. He will be addressing the budget that he's 33 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: put out. Does anyone to guess what it does? It's 34 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: pretty straightforward, more taxes and more spending, tax and spend, 35 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: not a shock. We've also got Jill Biden. Did you 36 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: see this yesterday? Yesterday it was International Women's Day and 37 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: Jill Biden gave an award. Does anyonet to guess what 38 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: the who the award went to? In terms of making 39 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: a statement making? Yep, we'll get there, we'll get it. 40 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: We'll keep everybody in the edge of their seats. To 41 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: whom does the Biden White House give an International Women's 42 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: Day Award in America today? Also you might have seen it, 43 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: there's this footage body camera footage of cops in Utah 44 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: and they had an individual, I think he was in 45 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: his mid twenties, white male, and he refused commands and 46 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: they shot him in his car. Cops all open fire. 47 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: The video is very clear of it. We can do 48 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: an analysis of that later. What you will note is 49 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: that there will be no riots, no protests, none of 50 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: that going on. And it's interesting to see how the 51 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: difference in narratives based upon who's involved in these shootings 52 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: plays out across the media. We'll discuss all that, but first, Clay, 53 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: it's been all weeks such a focus I think, not 54 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: only of conservative media, but also of the the opposition, 55 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer weighing in effectively the whole cable news lineup 56 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: has been on the left wing side, people responding to 57 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: with the most personal and vitriolic attacks. They can the 58 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: footage that Tucker Carlson has shared on his show, and 59 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: you know MSNBCCNN, they've been doing nothing but slamming him 60 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: and some Republicans have also gotten in on this, which 61 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: is which is disappointing but not shocking. Here are some 62 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: Republican members of Congress this is clip one, who are 63 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: attacking Tucker, attacking their own team for the amusement of 64 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: Democrats play it. I think it's bullshit. It's a revisionless 65 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: thing that I think is unfair to the market. People 66 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: will take any part in whitewashing January six. It wasn't 67 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: a stroll through the Capitol. It was an attack on 68 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: our capitol. I thought it was an insurrection at that time. 69 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: I still think it was an insurrection. Today there was 70 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: a tramp pretend it was something other than that are 71 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: despicable and frankly dangerous. It's awful what some people are 72 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: willing to do to get some eyeballs and get a 73 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: little lecture of money. First of all, Tucker doesn't need 74 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: eyeballs or money. He's got more than enough of both 75 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: of those things. He's the most dominant show in cable 76 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: news and has been for many years. Clay, there is 77 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: no argument now that we've seen that anyone can level 78 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: that Jacob Chans late known as Q and On Shaman 79 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: was afforded a fair judicial process, given that his lawyer 80 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: came out last night and said that the footage showing 81 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: police walking the chief insurrectionist in some of the accounts 82 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: around show that he was calm, polite, friendly, didn't have 83 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: any weapons. I mean, unless you think that spear or 84 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: whatever is a weapon. The whole thing was insane. I 85 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: think Tucker's showing things that people need to see. It's 86 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: a big deal. And that was the thing that leapt 87 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,119 Speaker 1: out to me the most. I was watching the open 88 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: last night. I've watched it Tucker's show all this week 89 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: because I knew that we would probably be talking about 90 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: some of the footage that he was sharing. And I 91 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: gotta tell you play cut three here because this goes 92 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: to the essence and before well, I'll analyze it after 93 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: we hear it, but let's listen to cut three. This 94 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: is last night the lawyer for the so called QAnon shaman, 95 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: who was sentenced over four years I believe in prison. 96 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: Here is what he said about whether he had seen 97 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: the video that shows this guy having the door open 98 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,119 Speaker 1: for the Senate chamber to him, that shows him leading 99 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: a prayer, that thinks the Capitol Hill police officers, that 100 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: shows him surrounded at one point by nine different Capitol 101 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: Hill Police officers that are doing nothing to restrain his 102 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: movement at all. But listen to this cut from his lawyer. 103 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: What Jacob Chansley actually did was wander piecely through the 104 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: Capital shepherded by Capitol Police officers who literally opened doors 105 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: for him. When one was locked, they went to another. 106 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: Dozens of officers stood and watched him. All of them 107 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: had guns. Jacob Chansley did not. They never told Jacob 108 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: Chancey to get out. The head of the Capitol Police 109 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: today it said he was trying to calm the situation. 110 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: It was already calm. He was the only protester in 111 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: the frame. They could have led him outside, they didn't. 112 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: They helped him. We're not going to speculate as to why. 113 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: We don't know why. All we know is what we 114 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: see on the tape, and no one disputes it. We 115 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: didn't cherry pick Itt. We didn't make it up. Okay, 116 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: So that's that's actually Tucker Cut two, and this I 117 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: believe cut three is that I believe we Okay, well 118 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: maybe we don't have the actual attorney saying this, but 119 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: so here's the here's the deal, buck. If the attorney, 120 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: and you have to take my word for it. He 121 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: said last night on Tucker that he had not seen 122 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: the the video that Tucker showed of the January sixth incidents. 123 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: Taking that attorney at his word that he had not 124 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: seen this footage, the prosecutor in this case has an 125 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: obligation in criminal law to disclose all evidence, particularly evidence 126 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: for sure that is potentially exculpatory in nature. If it 127 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: is true that this QAnon Shaman's lawyer that they pled 128 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: to a crime after being threatened potentially with decades in 129 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: prison without having access to all of the footage, and 130 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: the government may have had access to this footage, there 131 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: needs to be a massive investigation opened into how this 132 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: is possible that a criminal defendant was not able to 133 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: see the full scope of evidence, both pro and con 134 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: against him. This is a part of the Brady rule, 135 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: which is a foundational element of criminal defense, and you 136 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: are entitled to all of the evidence that the government 137 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: has in a criminal case so that you can put 138 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: forward your best possible defense. Now, look, this can be 139 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: very incriminating evidence. This can be evidence that tends to 140 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: work against you, or can be totally middle of the road, 141 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: doesn't really have much of an impact, or it can 142 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: be in your favor, which is what all of this 143 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: evidence is. And Buck my point on this would be 144 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: softly coincidental that the government manages to be able to 145 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: have all of the footage that makes him look as 146 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: awful as possible, to distribute as widely as they can 147 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: and effectively convicted this guy as the head of an insurrection, 148 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: and they share none of the footage whatsoever that makes 149 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: him look docile, timid, and completely unthreatening in all capacity, 150 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:56,359 Speaker 1: much more so under the direction based on these videos 151 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: of the Capitol police themselves could be more obvious that 152 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: he has serious mental health issues too. By the way, 153 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: certain I mean you know which which somehow got left 154 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: out of this. There are people who think of themselves 155 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: as the defenders of our democracy, and they used those 156 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: actual terms, who acted like a guy who is shirtless 157 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: with a furry hat on carrying around a spear in 158 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 1: the Capitol building is a threat to overthrow the United 159 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: States government. They think they're the serious, honest people, the 160 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: ones who make that argument. And I would point out 161 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: for anybody who wants a little bit of a sense 162 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: of how seriously you know you're you're a lawyer Clay, 163 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: So you know this stuff, but for how seriously withholding 164 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: exculpatory information can be taken? Some of you certainly are 165 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: Alaska audience, I think would remember Senator Ted Stevens. And 166 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: Senator Ted Stevens was faced with a federal felony prosecution 167 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: and they did this and I can't remember exactly, you 168 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: know that the timing of it, but effectively it costs 169 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: Republicans a seat in Alaska Senate seat this whole prosecution 170 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: they were doing, and what came out was that the 171 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: federal prosecutors involved hid clearly exculpatory evidence. Where Ted Stevens 172 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: was basically saying in an email I think it was, 173 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: you know, hey, I'm happy to pay for this if 174 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 1: I need to, but you know, is that as basically 175 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: saying like I don't want to accept anything that's a 176 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 1: problem and I want to make sure that this is 177 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: paid for. And they hid that. They hid that, and 178 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: I believe a federal prosecutor actually ended up committing suicide 179 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: because of the damage done to his credibility in his 180 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: career as a result of the blowback over the Ted 181 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: Stevens Senator Ted Stevens prosecution because it's rigging the system 182 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: against somebody. The system is not even for prosecutors. And 183 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 1: this is important. This is important that DC gulag situation 184 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: with going after January six people. It's supposed to do 185 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: justice and prosecutors are supposed to be a part of 186 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 1: that as well. It's not, Oh, we can hold this 187 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 1: back because we don't want the defense to know, because 188 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: we just want a conviction. The reason they have to 189 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: share it is because anything that an officer of the 190 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: knows in the context of a prosecution should be shared 191 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: with the full court so that you get the most 192 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: just outcome. Jacob Chansley was denied the most just outcome. 193 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: That is reality. So based on that alone, who are 194 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: these Republicans are saying, Oh, Tucker Carlson, he cherry picked 195 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: and everything else. Does our system matter or not? By 196 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: the way, the lawyer that was on the show last night, 197 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: I thought it was both compelling was on Tucker Show. 198 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: I thought he was compelling and eloquent on the issue. Yeah. Look, 199 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: and that's what as I was watching in real time 200 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: and I tweeted about it, and I would love to 201 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: know more details associated with this. But if we had 202 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: an honest department of Justice, there would be an investigation 203 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: based on those claims and based on this new video 204 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: evidence that would immediately be opened into whether this is 205 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: a sign of prosecutorial misconduct, because if the government had 206 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: this footage and did not share it, that is a 207 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: clear violation of the obligations of the criminal defense prosecution. 208 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: Beyond a shadow of a doubt, every judge looking at 209 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: it would say, this footage is material. The defense should 210 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: have had access to it. Buck if they did not 211 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: have access to it, because the government may say, well, 212 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: you know what, we didn't know this existed either. How 213 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: many other criminal defendants out there are being prosecuted to 214 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: the fullest extent of the law without potentially exculpatory evidence 215 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: that is available theoretically to them. And if you are 216 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: a Republican and you are criticizing Tucker Carlson right now, 217 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: what you're basically saying is I don't care about justice 218 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: because every single one of these defendants. It's why I 219 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: donated money, my own personal money to these January sixth defendants, 220 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: because I believe in an old school truth, which is 221 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: every criminal defendant deserves the best possible defense they can get, 222 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: and they're not getting it. And they're not getting the evidence. 223 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: And by the way, I just wanted to check everything 224 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: that I said about Ted Stevens that is accurate my 225 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: recollection of it, as I went back to make sure, 226 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: including tragically the suicide of one of the prosecutors who 227 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: was involved in this, because of I mean, I bring 228 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: this up just because the understanding of how egregious it 229 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: is to hide exculpatory evidence in your felony prosecution of 230 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: somebody that can destroy their life. If you make that decision, 231 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: you are perverting and destroying in essence the justice system. 232 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: What they hid, by the way, was Ted Stevens. Again, 233 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: this is back in two thousand and eight about the 234 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 1: whole thing was about renovations on his home. First of all, 235 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: that's the kind of corruption investigation of a Republican that 236 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: will happen. And he had sent a note to the 237 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: guy saying, hey, make sure you send me a bill. 238 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: I need to make sure that I pay for all 239 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: of this to the letter because we have to do 240 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: this right. Prosecutors had that communication kind of a big deal, 241 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: kind of a big deal, hit it, hit it. So 242 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: that's what you can be up against. By the way, 243 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: the prosecutory conduct that we have seen in if we 244 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: ever really got to the bottom of it, if we 245 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: ever saw the internal communications. Guarantee you it's worth with 246 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: the Jane worse with the January sixth defendants than even 247 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: what you saw with Ted Stevens. I think you're probably right. 248 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: When we come back, we've got that audio of the 249 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: attorney and the claims that he made last night on 250 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson will play it for you and all further 251 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: elucidate why it matters to such an extent. In the meantime, 252 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: Biden White House, what's Biden doing trying to raise your taxes? 253 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: He's a weak man. He's a failure. So is everyone else. 254 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: It feels like who works in the Biden administration. They 255 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: also have a real dearth at testosterone. Gee, here the 256 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: first gentleman. 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I want to make sure we 284 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: play the audio which we grabbed from Tucker last night 285 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: now again. Obviously, I don't know the specifics of any 286 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: particular criminal defense case that I'm not directly involved in myself. 287 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: But when an attorney comes on and says on the 288 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: biggest primetime network, on the biggest primetime show in the 289 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: country that dealt deals with news, Tucker Show, when they say, Hey, 290 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: I've never seen the videos of my client that you 291 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: have shown this week. The government did not give me 292 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: those Every defense attorney and every warrior. Frankly, the alarm 293 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: bells should start to go off. Did they cover this up? 294 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: What happened here is what the attorney for the qan 295 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: On Shaman, said last night on Tucker about whether he'd 296 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: ever seen these videos. Listen. The most important aspect of 297 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: that huming was that Jake was is not violent. The 298 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: government knew, They knew that Jake had walked around with 299 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: all of these police officers. They had that video footage. 300 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: I didn't get it. It wasn't disclosed to me, it 301 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: wasn't provided to me. I would question it. I filed 302 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: the requisite pleadings for it, and whether I did or not, 303 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: they had a duty, an absolute duty with zero discretion 304 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: to provide it to me so that I could share 305 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: it with my client. It's all one percent true, and 306 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:37,239 Speaker 1: that is a huge story. So the government if we 307 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: had buck an honest Department of Justice. If I were 308 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: the Attorney General and I heard that allegation on a show, 309 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: the first thing I did when I came into the 310 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: office this morning would say, I need to know did 311 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: we have this information and did we disclose it? Because 312 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: if we did not, this guy should be let out 313 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: of jail. It's amazing. Democrats want a lot about due 314 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: process for actual foreign terrorists. You terrible thing, But Americans, no, 315 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: they don't get due process when Democrats are upset. My friends, 316 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: if you own a small business, you know the value 317 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: of time getrefunds. Dot Com does too, That's why they've 318 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: been it easy, no matter how busy you are to 319 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: apply for the Employee Retention Credit or ARC. 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Why is Tucker showing surveillance 339 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: footage from inside the Capitol on January sixth? Don't people 340 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: understand that that is showing in video format what was 341 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: happening on the day that we're supposed to believe is 342 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: the worst day for America since the Civil War. Forget 343 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: Pearl Harbor for getting on to eleven the worst since 344 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: the Civil War. They say, okay, well, I feel like 345 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: we should see all of the footage. Then that would 346 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 1: lead us to believe one thing or another about it. 347 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: But we want to hear from you eight hundred two 348 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: eight two two eight eight two. You all know that 349 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: phone line, so light us up, tell us what you 350 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: think about this one. We do know Clay already what 351 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: the View thinks and want to I want to point 352 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 1: out I don't think you're getting invited on the View 353 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: anytime soon, now, you know. I think we had a moment, 354 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 1: we had a window there where you had some agreement. 355 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: I Whoopie Goldberg and I Joy Bayhall. I thought we 356 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: were gonna go out for a brunch, we were gonna 357 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,479 Speaker 1: sit around, We're gonna high five. We were agreeing on 358 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: so much. I meant to mention this buck, I'm not 359 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: even kidding. The View just ended their mask mandate this 360 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: week for their audience. That's amazing there. I mean, I 361 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: want all of you out there who are like, oh, 362 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: you guys talk too much about masking. It doesn't exist anymore. 363 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: If you were one of the imbeciles that wanted to 364 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: go watch the view. I think Colbert, you know, still 365 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: requires his audience to wear masks. Clay, I used to see. 366 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,719 Speaker 1: I used to live on the block Basic, right right 367 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: around the corner from where Colbert does his show, and 368 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: I would walk past people in line outside wearing masks, 369 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: all of them almost wearing masks outside. And I mean, 370 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: like even six months ago, not a long time ago. 371 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: It was crazy the fact that these people were First 372 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: of all, the fact that you would wait in line 373 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: to go watch the view. I question immediately whether you 374 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 1: have a functional brain. But if you told me that, 375 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 1: I don't know, Buck, here's a good question for you 376 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: were fired up about going to Miami? What would you 377 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: be will? What do you like so much at this 378 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: point that you would still do it if they told 379 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: you you had to wear a mask. I'm not sure 380 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: I would go to a public event, even for things 381 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: that I love. I wouldn't have a football game if 382 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: they told me that I had to wear a mask. 383 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 1: I have refused to do anything that requires a mask 384 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: for a long time now, like I will actively avoid it. 385 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: That's why I was so I look, I was furious 386 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 1: yesterday when I was told in Miami that I had 387 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: to wear a mask to go into all right, I 388 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: wasn't going into going into a cancer ward or a 389 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: place where people. I was walking into a first floor 390 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: office to have an annual checkup with a physician, and 391 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: they said mask up. Yea, they said mask up. And 392 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: they were very aggressive about it too, And I was 393 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: just looking at them like, are all of you morons? 394 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: I just want to know, like, is there something wrong 395 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: with all of you? And I really don't like this 396 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: thing that I see, even among some conservatives. Well, if 397 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: it makes people feel better, it's not that big a deal. 398 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely not, Absolutely not. I'm not playing that. We're not 399 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: We're not at that level. No, Oh, it's about being 400 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: polite anyway. There are a few things in life that 401 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: that tick me off more than the stupidity of making 402 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: people wear masks. So the fact that View is wearing 403 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: a mask until this week is amazing. The fact that 404 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: the View also thinks the federal government should shut down 405 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: cable news shows they don't like is pretty remarkable as well. 406 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: Here we go play for I have a question, how 407 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: come this is not thought of as being recruiting? How 408 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: come they're not thinking about SLASIC. Why is this not 409 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: being scrutinized the way that they scrutinize others, Because to me, 410 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: this should be against the law. You should not be 411 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: able to lie to them knowingly. I mean, I hope 412 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: that the DJ looks through a whole bunch of what 413 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: to do about this, because I know if this were 414 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: happening here on ABC, CBSA, ELEMENTA, B, we could not 415 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: do this. This is what these people are truly stupid, 416 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: and just take away any political realm. If you talk 417 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: on television for a living, why in the world would 418 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: you want other people to not be able to talk 419 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: on television for a living. It just as its basic level, 420 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: Like I think the women of the view are the 421 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: four how many of them, four or five whatever the 422 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: number is, the four or five dumbest people in media, 423 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: and they talk on television every day for a living. 424 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 1: I don't believe that they should not be allowed to 425 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: talk on television for a living because frankly, I think 426 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: that the marketplace of ideas exists bucks so that we 427 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: can play their stupid, inane, indefensible takes and point out 428 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: why they are so stupid. But for this angle, to 429 00:23:55,640 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: be had. Someone says something that I don't like on television, 430 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: and therefore cable television, if you want to specify, and 431 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: therefore they shouldn't be allowed to say it anymore. The 432 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: government should stop them from doing it. They're so dumb 433 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: it's hard to even have a discussion with them on this. 434 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: I really wish Buck, I know you're making the joke. 435 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: I wish I could go into the view and just 436 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 1: like John Snow in the Battle of the Bastards, you know, 437 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: when he's standing out there with the sword and the 438 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 1: on rushing hoard is coming towards him and there's nobody else, 439 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: I'll draw my sword and just go to war with 440 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: that entire studio. Because I think they don't get disabused 441 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: of these notions. They don't actually know how dumb they are. 442 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: That used to be something that would happen in news commentary. 443 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: It's one of the things that I mean, I criticize 444 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: the way things have changed her a lot, because there 445 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: are very few places where people with platforms have to 446 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: defend their ideas, and so that allows for the proliferation 447 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: not just of really stupid ideas, but also of just 448 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: just abject lies. They keep saying it's as though they 449 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: don't understand the definition. And I'm not just talking about 450 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: the women of the view. You've got a lot of 451 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: Republicans out there who are coming after Tucker on this one. 452 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: You've got a lot of obviously, all the Democrats in 453 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: Congress are coming after Tucker on this one. They keep 454 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: saying that you know it's a lie or what exactly 455 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: how is it a lie to show surveillance footage? And 456 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 1: you know you have here, you know, Anderson Cooper, here's 457 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: an example. He says that this is like showing footage 458 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: of soldiers in Vietnam when they weren't actually at war 459 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: and saying it wasn't actually a war. Here play play clip? 460 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: Can we play clip five? Just so this is an 461 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: argument that we keep hearing play that. Look at like Vietnam. 462 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: You know, there's plenty of footage of Marines and soldiers 463 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: at their bases, you know, hanging out in Saigon in 464 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: off time. I mean, you can take video of anybody 465 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: in the course of a day when something is happening. 466 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: And then if you can't say that the Vietnam War 467 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: wasn't violent and people weren't getting killed, I mean it's ridiculous. 468 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: So his argument is absolutely idiotic. You know, he's somebody 469 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: who's always been propped up as like the serious journalist. 470 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: He is not. Okay, but this is a moment where 471 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: you have to say, hold on a second. The central 472 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: figure of the insurrection, which means COO attempt, the central 473 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: figure in the coup attempt, who was wearing a furry hat, 474 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: shirtless and carrying a spear around, not an AAR fifteen, 475 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: not a machine gun, not a bazooka, a spear. Okay, 476 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: there's video of him on the day in question, in 477 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 1: the middle of the so called coup or insurrection, walking 478 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: around calmly talking to members of Capitol Police, and people 479 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: are saying, oh, well, if it was Ben Laden, how 480 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: would they have reacted. Does this guy look like he 481 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: has been Ladden? I mean, the comparisons they're making are 482 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: what is the problem. And by the the reason they're 483 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: getting so hysterical and crazy about this is because people 484 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: who have even a little bit of an open mind 485 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 1: are seeing they were lied to about this. If they 486 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 1: believed that it was an insurrection, they were lied to. 487 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: It was a riot. There were bad things that happened 488 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: during the riot. We condemned that. But the notion this 489 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: was overthrowing the United States government Clay is fanciful and 490 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: it is totally out of line for Anderson Cooper to 491 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: be talking about the Vietnam War, which lasted four years, 492 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,959 Speaker 1: and what footage you are using from a multi year event. 493 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 1: This was a two hour at most incident. We should see. 494 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: I believe this. Every American should be able to see 495 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: every security camera footage of all the two hours of 496 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: January sixth. Okay, if Tucker were showing events from December 497 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: and saying, oh, well, this is an indication of what 498 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: happened on January sixth, I'd be like, Okay, it's a 499 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: different month. Literally, he showed clips of central figures inside 500 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 1: of the Capitol, Brian Sicknick, and the qan On Shaman. 501 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: Let me also say this, Buck, he made a really 502 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 1: good point. I was watching again last night. There were 503 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 1: more cops injured according to reports outside of the White 504 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: House when they tried to burn down that church. Yeah, 505 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: then were injured. According to the peak numbers they said, 506 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: I think it was like one hundred and fourteen. Again, 507 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: I don't have the numbers in front of me, but 508 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: it was around one hundred and fourteen in the Capitol 509 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: compared to one day, one day of BLM riots outside 510 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: of the White House. When they showed the footage, you guys, 511 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: well remember they ridiculed Trump because it was such a 512 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: threat that they took him down to a secure room 513 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: in the White House. Yet they want you to believe 514 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: that everybody was in danger. Chuck Schumer came out and said, 515 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: they were gonna kill me. I don't know about you, Buck, 516 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: I would have been perfectly fine walking through the Capitol 517 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: by myself with no security on that day, one hundred 518 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: percent right. I would not have felt threatened. Some of 519 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: those people would have known me, some of them may 520 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: have liked me, most of them wouldn't have cared about 521 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: me at all, which is the way that the vast 522 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: majority of those people in Congress would have felt too. 523 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: But they legitimately with such a big riot, more cops 524 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: injured that single day during the BLM protest, and the 525 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,479 Speaker 1: threat to the President of the United States was so 526 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: severe the Secret Service took him down to a secure room. 527 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: Yet they were they ridiculed Trump for that. They praised 528 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: to the high heavens. Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer because 529 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: of the way they handled January sixth. What was the 530 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: point of months of BLM riots all across America in 531 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: an election year. I just want I want everyone to 532 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: remember that, what was the reason why do you riot? 533 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: People say, oh, because people are angrier, because if injustice 534 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: would have no, no no, no no. You do these things 535 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: as a political movement. And these were all Biden voters, 536 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: as we know, to send a message. The twenty twenty 537 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: election was held under duress. And if anyone doesn't believe that, 538 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: they can look at the store owners and the footage 539 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: of people in cities across America preparing for the most 540 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: destructive riots perhaps in our nation's history, all over the 541 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: place if Joe Biden didn't win, because right nobody will 542 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: talk about it, every major city in America they put 543 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: up They put up all the plyboard, they put up 544 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: all the protections of the windows. They weren't doing that 545 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: for Biden's win. They were doing it for what they 546 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: were going to do to America if Trump win. And 547 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: I think, unfortunately buck a lot of people bought into that. 548 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: They just said, I want things to go back to Norman. 549 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: I don't want my neighborhood to be destroyed. I'm voting Biden. 550 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: These are the people lecturing you on democracy or sacred democracy. 551 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: The founding fathers would be so upset at Trump. Please 552 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: spare me, all right. You know the Biden administrations on 553 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: track to do more crazy things in the next year. 554 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: Is they ramp up their reelection drumbeat. 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Appreciate all 582 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. We got people. A 583 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: couple of people want to weigh in on the conversation 584 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: we've been having so far about Jan six. Both from 585 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: a legal perspective. This is me talking about it as 586 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: someone who has done criminal defense law and it is 587 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: still a licensed attorney, which drives Buck so many people 588 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: crazy because why is the sports guy got an opinion 589 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: on Well, I mean, I do have a law degree. 590 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: I actually have a lot more reason to have strong 591 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: legal opinions than I do sports opinions. I'm just a 592 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: dude when it comes to sports or politics or anything else. 593 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: But a couple of people went to weigh in on 594 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: what we've been discussing so far. Let's go up to 595 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: Jackie in Westchester, PA. What you got for us, Jackie, 596 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: I I just want to know you guys, your opinion 597 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: on whether you think Fox is muzzling Tucker. Because Tucker 598 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: had a whole week of programs that he was going 599 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: to release what was there, forty thousand hours or something 600 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: of these videos at the Capitol and he's done like 601 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: two minutes because they got such pushback by shoot from 602 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: Schumer and the likes of them. And I appreciate the call. 603 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: I understand that. And I can't obviously speak for Tucker 604 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: because I don't know day to day what his communications are. 605 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: I would be stunned beyond belief, Buck, based on what 606 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: my relationship has been like with Fox. From Suzanne Scott, 607 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: from Jay Wallace, from Lachlan Murdoch on down No one 608 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: has ever told me, hey, you can't talk about x 609 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: Y or zee, Hey, don't say this. And I am 610 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: a pen prick as important to Fox as Tucker is. 611 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: I would be stunned if they are in any way 612 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: restraining him and what I would say about the call 613 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: and Buck, you and I were talking about this off 614 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: the air. Here's the thing that discussed me, and I 615 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: think it fires up a lot of you out there listening. 616 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell and Chuck Schumer have the exact same opinion 617 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: when it comes to Tucker Carlson sharing January six videos. 618 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 1: It is should not be allowed to happen. How do 619 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: we have this uniparty? How do we have legitimately people 620 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: who see Hey that qan On Shaman literally his lawyer said, 621 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,760 Speaker 1: we've never seen this footage before. Brian Sicknick, They tried 622 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 1: to argue Merritt Garland just said five police officers died 623 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: as a result of January sixth. That's all wise. Why 624 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: would you not want that corrected? Can I just point 625 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: out that if what the lawyer claimed on Tucker Show's 626 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: Last Tucker's Show last night were not the case, if 627 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: it were untrue, if he had been provided that. Yes, 628 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: how easy would it be for good point the prosecutor's 629 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: office in DC to put out a statement that is 630 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: not you know, and by the way, that would blow 631 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: the whole thing up at least for you know, the 632 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: Q and right if they said, hey, here is the 633 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: documents of us sending all this footage to the lawyer. 634 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: He had every access to this for discovery purposes. I 635 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: haven't seen it. You haven't seen it. You're right, It's 636 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: a super easy thing to theoretically do. So that's a 637 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: very for a lawyer to be so definitive on national 638 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: TV about that is very risky because if it is 639 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: a lie, well now you know, nothing you say will 640 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: be taken seriously afterwards. There'll be no second look at 641 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm assuming Chansley took a plea bargain, right, 642 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: that's right. So see, this is where you get into 643 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: something when you take a plea bargain. It's not like 644 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,439 Speaker 1: a conviction by a jury. As I understand it, Clay, 645 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: it's harder to get a you know, it basically harder 646 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: to get a trial after you took a plea bargain 647 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: because as part of the plea bargain it's often you're 648 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 1: giving up your rights, you know, to anything, to ever 649 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: question this. So they might have slammed this guy into 650 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: an unwinnable situation and then said sorry. You know, they 651 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: stacked the deck, and there's very little accountability on the 652 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 1: prosecutorial side. They were threatening him with decades in prison 653 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: when he took this plea deal. For people out there 654 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: who were wondering, do you think the decision might have 655 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 1: been different if he had known what this footage showed, 656 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: I think probably so. And that's why it's so consequential 657 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 1: to justice. And that's why I said, if I were 658 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice head, if I were Mayored Garland, 659 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: the first thing I did when I came into work 660 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: today would have been checked these files.