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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Why won't he go away?

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Speaker 2: Now we learn Sean Diddy Combs pondering suing Netflix over

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Speaker 2: their Reckoning series. Reckoning is the name of it, and

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Speaker 2: we learn his prison release date has been moved up

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Speaker 2: insult to injury. That's right, Sean Diddy Comb's argument with

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Speaker 2: Netflix and fifty Cent over the documentary titled Sean Combs

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Speaker 2: The Reckoning seemingly is set to wind up in court.

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Speaker 1: This is what we've learned.

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Speaker 2: Combs and his quote team are pondering their legal options

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Speaker 2: over the Netflix docuseries.

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Speaker 1: End quote, stolen footage quote?

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Speaker 2: Okay, doesn't he have bigger problems sitting behind bars at

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Speaker 2: a low security for Dixon, Jersey. The Comebs escaped the

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Speaker 2: most serious charges filed against him, including rico and sex trafficking.

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Speaker 1: He was found guilty on two.

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Speaker 2: Less accounts of transportation to engage in prostitution. He's still

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Speaker 2: facing literally dozens and dozens of civil lawsuits across the

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Speaker 2: country and a brand new sex battery case opened last

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Speaker 2: month by the LA County Sheriffs. This, as we learned,

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Speaker 2: with time served considered, the Federal Bureau of Prisons has

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Speaker 2: moved his release date from June four, twenty twenty eight

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Speaker 2: to May eighth, twenty twenty eight. Wow, let's jog our

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Speaker 2: memory as to what happened at trial and straight out

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Speaker 2: to Lauren Colin standing by at the courthouse. Lauren, what

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Speaker 2: happened today?

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Speaker 1: Today?

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Speaker 3: In court we heard from the government cell phone expert,

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Speaker 3: the expert who did the extractions on Cassie Ventura's cell phone.

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Speaker 3: He talked about extracting a significant amount of deleted data

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Speaker 3: and why certain things would appear on the screen in

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Speaker 3: seen blanks, we've seen duplicate names, and he explained all

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Speaker 3: of this away. After that, we heard testimony from Jane Doe,

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Speaker 3: who is victim three now. Jane Doe described meeting Sean

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Speaker 3: Colmes early twenty twenty and she met him through a

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Speaker 3: so she kind of kept her distance. They exchanged numbers

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Speaker 3: she was in a relationship with Sean Colmes from twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty all the way up until his arrest. Now, Jane

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Speaker 3: Doe testified that the relationship truly started off as a

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Speaker 3: fairy tale. He took her away to Turks and Caicos

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Speaker 3: and then the Bahamas, but he also offered her ten

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Speaker 3: on this trip, so here's some money. She talked about

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Speaker 1: She's also a single mother.

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Speaker 3: And from there, the government kind of started to ask, well,

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Speaker 3: which cities did he take you too? Did he pay

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Speaker 3: you money often, to which she testified, you know, he

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Speaker 3: at some point, and eventually, about three or four months

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Speaker 3: it turns out he was serious. She went to the bathroom,

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Speaker 3: and this was after they had already been engaging in

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Speaker 3: in he calls someone he knows named Don and arranges

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Speaker 3: Don for that very night, and then she describes going

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Speaker 3: we've heard before, and then after that she said it

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Speaker 3: for Ditty, was Ditty's money that he was sending to

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, could you tell me how the jury was reacting?

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Speaker 3: The defense was actually admonished today when the judge warned

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Speaker 3: and the judge told the defense, if he does this again,

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Speaker 2: Joining me now a special guest, longtime friend and colleague

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Speaker 2: Rob Shooter. Rob was Shawn Combs is PR guru for years.

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Speaker 2: He no longer works for him, Thank goodness, or I'd

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Speaker 2: be grilling you even worse.

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Speaker 1: Rob Shooter, host of.

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Speaker 2: Naughty but Nice podcast That's at robshooter dot substat dot com.

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Speaker 2: Author of the foreword answer, Rob, I want to talk

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Speaker 2: about what Mia has been saying on the stand all

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Speaker 2: day and for several days, the fact that she lived

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Speaker 2: in fear. You know, I believe it was you that

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Speaker 2: first told me that Shawn Combs ordered somebody to go

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Speaker 2: get him a cheesecake at three o'clock in the morning,

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Speaker 2: and they did it. They found a place that was open,

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Speaker 2: they got the cheesecake and brought it back to Sean Combs.

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Speaker 2: It seems as if he was very imperious with his employees.

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Speaker 2: To the fact that Mia describes PTSD, that's what she's describing.

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Speaker 2: I've seen it in a lot of crime victims. Describe

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Speaker 4: My time working with Ditty was extraordinary, Nancy. I've never

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Speaker 4: had a job, I've never experienced anything like that again,

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Speaker 4: and I've gone to work with stars even bigger than him.

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Speaker 4: It was really gruelsome. It wasn't a job, it was

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Speaker 4: it was a life. He took over your life. He

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Speaker 4: demanded you twenty four hours a day, seven days a week.

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Speaker 4: He could be really bullying. He could also be very charming,

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Speaker 4: and so I understand everything that MIA's saying. It's heartbreaking

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Speaker 4: and it's an experience that very very few, thankfully we'll

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Speaker 2: Okay, I want to get back to these demands, because

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Speaker 2: if he could make a grown person get out of

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Speaker 2: a slice of cheesecake, and it had to be the

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Speaker 2: best cheesecake, it couldn't be any crap that could get

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Speaker 2: down at the Dagstino's right, what could he make someone

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Speaker 2: like Mia do, who was already meek and mild and traumatized.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I want to hear what it was like.

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Speaker 2: You say it was a way of life.

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Speaker 1: It was your life. Why it was our lives?

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Speaker 4: Because we were young. He had picked people to work

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Speaker 4: with him that he could control. There was nobody on

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Speaker 4: his staff, including me, that was terribly experienced. It was

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Speaker 4: all about him. He carefully groomed us all. He carefully

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Speaker 4: they didn't last. He was the ringmaster and we played

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Speaker 1: Circus rob Shooter.

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Speaker 2: You stated that Sean says a very carefully choreographed personal image,

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Speaker 2: and you told a story about making the press move

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Speaker 2: at a private airport.

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Speaker 1: I guess it was Teeterborough. So as they all.

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Speaker 2: Filmed Sean Combs pulling up, yet at first you didn't

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Speaker 2: see the private plane, and he was so angry. He

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Speaker 2: actually single handedly made all the press move where they

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Speaker 1: So when he got out of.

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Speaker 2: His suv you could see the private plane behind him.

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Speaker 4: Describe Yeah, absolutely true. I was on the tarmac. The

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Speaker 4: press was lined up waiting for him, everybody from national

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Speaker 4: shows to local press. And he drove up in his

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Speaker 4: very very expensive private plane. So what he did is

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Speaker 4: he left, he restaged his entrance. We spun the press

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Speaker 4: and make sure every member of the press who were

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Speaker 4: videoing deleted their original footage. So we did not leave

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Speaker 4: this to chance. It was something that he had thought of.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't have thought about this, but he told me

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Speaker 4: make sure they've all deleted the footage. I don't want.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to give them the choice of deciding

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Speaker 4: which footage to use. They'll use the one that I

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Speaker 2: So he got an entire fleet of the media to

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Speaker 2: change their positions and delete video.

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Speaker 1: I'm making a point. Listen to this, Shooter.

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Speaker 5: Brian Steele shows me a birthday shout out from Comb's

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Speaker 5: caption beside every great man is a great woman. PS.

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Speaker 5: Sorry I was acting crazy last night. Mia says Combs

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Speaker 5: had threatened her life on a phone call the night before,

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Speaker 5: and she took this as his apology. Steele asks if

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Speaker 5: she reposted the message despite the seriousness of the threat

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Speaker 5: and mere response of reading off her profusely thankful caption,

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Speaker 5: Thanks puff love you. You've shown me the world.

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Speaker 2: So you're hearing Rob Shooter the posts that Mia is

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Speaker 2: making about a birthday wish, and then she gets cross

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Speaker 2: examined about wishing Seawn Holmes's happy birthday on a post.

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Speaker 2: Now I have seen rape victims go along to get along,

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Speaker 2: whether he was in your employer forcing sex on you, husband, partner,

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Speaker 1: But he's really tearing.

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Speaker 2: Her up on the stand. About this shooter, what do

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Speaker 1: You know him?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this is directed by Diddy. I think

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Speaker 4: Puff is running this entire trial. He's telling his lawyers

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Speaker 4: what to do, which might be a mistake, but his

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Speaker 4: ego is very, very big in news flashy and unsaid.

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Speaker 4: It is possible to think love a monster. A person

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Speaker 4: can be a terrible person and you can still have

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Speaker 4: feelings towards them, And I think that's a mistake here

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Speaker 4: that did he is making. I think people know the difference.

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Speaker 4: And just because I post something a birthday message, something

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Speaker 4: kind towards you, does it mean you can't also be

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Speaker 4: a terrible human being?

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Speaker 1: Rob Shooter.

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Speaker 2: Are you surprised that Sean Combs has been able to

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Speaker 2: keep so many alleged victims quiet for so long?

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Speaker 1: We've seen multiple civil lawsuits occur.

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Speaker 2: After Cassie Ventura came out, and we are asking the

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Speaker 2: wrong questions. We're saying, why are you suing him for money?

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Speaker 2: You're in it just for the money, Cassie Venturra or Mia,

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Speaker 2: instead of asking the question, why is Sean Combe's paying

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Speaker 2: millions and millions of dollars to keep these victims quiet?

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Speaker 2: Why do you think so many victims have gone unheard

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Speaker 2: until now? Maybe because of what we see happening to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think there's going to be that. We've seen.

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Speaker 4: There's a long history of this money, power, fame are

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Speaker 4: all really intoxicating. If you can't bully them with your fame,

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Speaker 4: then you throw money at the problems. And I think

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Speaker 4: we have to be honest here. The tape of Cassie

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Speaker 4: changed everything. Wouldce that videotape existed, Nancy, We saw what

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Speaker 4: happened when somebody tried to leave. We saw Cassie running

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Speaker 4: and look what happened to her. That's why people didn't leave.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't just the money, wasn't just the fame, wasn't

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Speaker 4: just the power, Nancy, it was the violence.

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Speaker 2: Johnny right Now entertainment, legal fear commentator, host podcast The

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Speaker 2: armand Wiggans show. Arman, We're going to thank you for

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Speaker 6: Right now as of the break, the strongest evidence so

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Speaker 1: Did he have it there? Where did it come from?

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Speaker 2: Wow, you wonder why he paid one hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: And you could see Sean's going uh ohhh, moving around

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure he was absolutely furious. Let me tell

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Speaker 2: I'm just imagining when Sean comes finds out there's another

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Speaker 2: video floating around. Robert Crispin joining me. Private investigator was

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Speaker 2: He is now at Crispin Investigations dot com. Crispin, don't

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Speaker 2: you just hate it when you blackmail somebody to the

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Speaker 7: I mean, really, come on, think about it. Do you

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Speaker 7: all this with the government, this cast to guard letter stuff,

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Speaker 2: Standing by his investigative reporter Lauren Conlins, he's been in

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Speaker 2: What a bomb, a state bomb for the defense drut

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Speaker 2: Right in the middle of that clutch of lawyers one

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Speaker 2: tell me how that went over in the courtroom.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Nancy, we started off by getting a really big

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Speaker 5: We were all in shock.

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Speaker 3: But back to Eddie Garcia, I mean, this testimony was

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Speaker 3: Eddie Garcia described talking to him saying, you know, look,

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Speaker 2: Dollars Crime stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 1: Sean did he. Comb's facing dozens and dozens of.

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Speaker 2: Civil lawsuits and brand new sex assault charges, is now

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Speaker 2: please go ahead, sue Netflix. They've got a deep pocket.

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Speaker 2: They can fight back, and they will put you right

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Speaker 2: on the stand, Shawn Combs, and I can't wait to

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Speaker 1: Boy was I wrong.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the jury was thinking, but they

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Speaker 1: Nobody's buying that thing, and I think I.

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Speaker 2: Know why, Lauren Colin of other In addition to all

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Speaker 3: And it was pretty wild to see a special agent

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Speaker 2: around in eight inch platform heels. He has the women

437
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 2: dress up in various outfits and we see all those

438
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 2: heels and is Miami Mansions, Sydney.

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Speaker 8: And we heard a similar story from both of the

440
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 8: male escorts that have testified that they believed they were

441
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Speaker 8: coming for some kind of bachelorette party. And then this

442
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 8: woman opens the door. She's by herself except for her

443
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 8: purported husband in the corner of the room, and she's disguised.

444
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 8: She's wearing some kind of lingerie, a matching wig, some

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00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 8: kind of heels, and it just doesn't it doesn't make

446
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 8: sense the defensive theory that they're saying that this is

447
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 8: all just private sex matter. For Sean Diddy Combs, there

448
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 8: is no reason to own half of the Spencer store

449
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 8: and just keep that in your home. If that's purely

450
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 8: for personal use where there's not more than one person involved,

451
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 8: you're not having opious amounts of freak off parties. It

452
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Speaker 8: just does it crack.

453
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 2: We've heard about a Louis Vuitton bag, a huge Louis

454
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 2: stuffed full of horse trnk, ecstasy, cocaine, pink cocaine, plan be,

455
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 2: birth control pills, and of course high powered viagra.

456
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: Did he needs his viagra?

457
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna have to go to our shrink in

458
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 2: a moment about mushroom pills, crystal rocks that are md

459
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: M A and what effect that has?

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00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: You know, I'll ask him right now.

461
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: Joining me Scott Johnson, forensic psychologist, thirty three years addressing

462
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 2: sex predators Forensic Consultation dot org.

463
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: It's where you can find.

464
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 2: Him, author of Physical Abusers and Sex Offenders.

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Speaker 1: When I Love You Turns Violent that's another book. Scott Johnson,

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Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. What is m d

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Speaker 1: M A and what effect does it have on a?

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Speaker 2: All?

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Speaker 9: Right, So you have the ecstasy basically by the street name,

470
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 9: and you have people that become delusional. It's difficult to

471
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 9: say no. At higher levels, it may cause a euphoric

472
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 9: statement where people are kind of out of touch with reality,

473
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 9: sort of delusional. But it's very difficult to say no

474
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 9: or to resist when you're under the influence of these medications.

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00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 2: Ecstasy Molly is a stimulant with psychedelic properties.

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00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 1: That's what it is.

477
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: And if you drop it in one of these ladies' drinks,

478
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 2: there's no telling what I think it's going.

479
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Speaker 1: To have on her.

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Speaker 2: Lauren Collin very quickly, Laurena, I want to ask you

481
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Speaker 2: about what happened when we got to Diddy's bathroom of

482
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Speaker 2: his mansion that was rated the bathrooms.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then we got to a bathroom where we

484
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 3: saw two containers and in one container there was twenty

485
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Speaker 3: five bottles of baby oil and thirty one bottles of astroglide.

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Speaker 3: And I actually spotted two rubber ducky a little bit confusing,

487
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 3: and when they asked a special agent, well, they're more

488
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 3: baby oil that you found, he said yes, and there

489
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 3: was because we saw a mini create of baby oil

490
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 3: during his direct testimony the day before now, right around

491
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Speaker 3: when he was testifying, did he's sons Justin and Christian

492
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 3: walked in and did he turned around. He didn't smile,

493
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 3: but he nodded his head at them.

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Speaker 2: Is he guilty of all the counts or any of

495
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 2: the counts in this federal indictment? So far, according to

496
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 2: my legal analysis, the charges of sex trafficking have been

497
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,719
Speaker 2: shown by not only Cassie Ventura, but another female witness

498
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 2: as well. Transportation of male sex workers across state lines

499
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 2: to engage in prostitution. Yes, now, racketeering is going to

500
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 2: have to be explained to the jury. Racketeering just think

501
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 2: about Tony Soprano. It is a loose confederation of people

502
00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 2: that engage altogether to achieve a criminal in this criminal conspiracy.

503
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 2: The act would be sex trafficking, bringing people in from

504
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Speaker 2: various states to perform prostitution or and to force women

505
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: to engage in freakoffs against their wills.

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Speaker 1: Bam easy.

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Speaker 2: My question is what woman in her right mind would

508
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Speaker 2: consent to have sex with not just a male escort,

509
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Speaker 2: A lot.

510
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: Of people do that, but a convicted killer slash male escort.

511
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Speaker 10: Listen, at least two of the male escorts Cassie identified

512
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Speaker 10: it worf It on the Showtime reality series Jiggilows.

513
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Speaker 11: One is also a convicted murderer. Akshaya Kubiak, who uses

514
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Speaker 11: the name ash armand beat her Lean Delight to death.

515
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 11: Kubiak claimed he blacked out after taking mushrooms with Duly,

516
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Speaker 11: one of Kubiak's clients, and when he woke up the

517
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Speaker 11: next morning, she was brutally beaten to death.

518
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna found it in pain, could have live in pain.

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00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 7: We took much of them together last night in order

520
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 7: to struggle slive concerts or breeding.

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Speaker 8: We have the mal d dane right now. Officers and

522
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 8: medical personnel arrived on scene and that female was pronounced deceased.

523
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Speaker 12: This was one of the worst meetings of a person

524
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 12: of a human that I've seen.

525
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 13: The whole situation is what horror movies are made of.

526
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: On the morning of a murder, they didn't call nine

527
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 2: one one first, They actually called another jiggle laugh that

528
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: from Paramounts Sin City Jigglow. They find the dead body

529
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 2: and they don't call nine one one, They actually call

530
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Speaker 2: another jigglow.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you know.

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Speaker 2: To Rachel Fisher joining Us a special guest Joining Us.

533
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: Rachel is an anti trafficking expert featured in the twenty

534
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 2: two documentary Surviving Sex Trafficking. She is a forensic nurse,

535
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 2: a sex assault nurse, examiner, an expert witness, and she's

536
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 2: that legal r inc consult dot org.

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Speaker 1: Rachel, thank you for being with us. It's one thing to.

538
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 2: Talk about Diddy dressed up and a Muslim female burka

539
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 2: from the neck up.

540
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: It's another thing to.

541
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: Talk about this male escorts moniker is the punisher. But

542
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: it's another thing to force a woman that would be

543
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 2: Cassie Ventura into sex with not just a Jiglow, but

544
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Speaker 2: a convicted killer Jiglow.

545
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 14: So that's the danger of forcing somebody to be involved

546
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 14: in a commercial sex act. Whether you're the recipient or

547
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 14: you're the one performing it and getting paid for it,

548
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 14: that's still a commercial sex act that she was being

549
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 14: coerce and forced into. And you never know who's on

550
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 14: the other end of the call when you click that

551
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 14: ad online to order an escort, because you can get

552
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 14: one faster than you can get a pizza in most places,

553
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 14: and whoever shows up, you don't know their background. It's

554
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Speaker 14: a very dangerous career to be in the sex industry,

555
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 14: and many of the people that are there are not

556
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 14: there willingly, and some are, but you never know what

557
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 14: their story is. On the other side and what they're

558
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 14: going to come with. That's why we have so many

559
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 14: that are murdered when they're in the sex industry, or

560
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 14: you get an in call, when an escort comes to

561
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Speaker 14: you and you get murdered or robbed, and it's a

562
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 14: very dangerous thing that you're forcing somebody to be a

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Speaker 14: part of. There are multiple people involved, and so all

564
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Speaker 14: of those people become part of that scheme.

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Speaker 2: I wonder what ed BD Diddy is feeling and thinking

566
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Speaker 2: right now in a courtroom as a Homeland Security special

567
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 2: agent describes everything that was found in his mansion that

568
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Speaker 2: was rated, crates of baby oil as to glide.

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Speaker 1: That's not against the law.

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Speaker 2: What I care about are the federal counts in that

571
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Speaker 2: federal indictment.

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Speaker 5: Former assistant David James testifies that Combs was occasionally violent

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Speaker 5: with private chef Jordan Atkinson. According to James, after an

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Speaker 5: altercation at his Pine, New Jersey home, Combs instructed him

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Speaker 5: to file a police report, stating Atkinson was the aggressor

576
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 5: and hit him first. James, who witnessed the altercation, says

577
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 5: he simply drove around Alpine for roughly an hour before

578
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 5: returning and telling Combs it was filed. James says he

579
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 5: didn't want to comply with Combs's request because he did

580
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Speaker 5: not want to file a false report.

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Speaker 2: Sidney Summer joining me, investigative reporter, Crime Stories. Sidney explained

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Speaker 2: to me, Am I getting this correct. The former assistant

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Speaker 2: David James described an incident where Sean Combs allegedly attacked

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Speaker 2: a female chef, but then wanted James to go file

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Speaker 2: a police report, stating it was the other way around,

586
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Speaker 2: but James didn't do it.

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Speaker 8: That's absolutely correct. James said that Combs and this chef

588
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 8: got into an altercation in Colmbs immediately after it ended,

589
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 8: came to James and asked him, look, let's go to

590
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Speaker 8: the cops. Let's file a police report, but make sure

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00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 8: it says that she attacked She hit me first, she

592
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Speaker 8: was the aggressor. And James kind of did his Okay, yeah,

593
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 8: I'll do that, and he got into a car and

594
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 8: just drove around for about an hour before returning home

595
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 8: and saying, yep, filed it. It's in there. They'll contact

596
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Speaker 8: me if they need anything else from us. And the

597
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,919
Speaker 8: whole time he never spoke to a police officer about

598
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 8: it because he didn't want to you know.

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Speaker 1: What is probed of about this Sydney.

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Speaker 2: This right here here we have Rob Shooter, Seawan Colmbs

601
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 2: beating the Steve out of Cassie venture. She's holding up

602
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: her little left hand to find him off, and they're

603
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 2: going to argue, according to gia Ghos, And of course

604
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: this could change, just like the defense in Scott Peterson

605
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 2: changed from a satanic cult took Lacey to burglars took Lacey.

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00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 1: I mean it changed over time.

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00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 2: So at one point gia Ghost let it slip that

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Speaker 2: the argument to defeat this video is that Cassie ninety

609
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: pound Cassie is the aggressor here. She's the one giving

610
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Speaker 2: him the booty beating over text from another woman. Okay,

611
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 2: she's the aggressor. Same thing with the chef, see what

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00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: I'm saying. The connection, So apparently that's his modus operandi,

613
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: method of operation. He attacks the woman according to evidence,

614
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: then says she's the aggressor. Did he ever take responsibility

615
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Speaker 2: for anything?

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00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 4: Rob Shooter, He took responsibility when everything went well. When

617
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 4: things were going good, it was because of him. When

618
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 4: things were not going well, it was because of everybody else.

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Speaker 4: But this video here, Nancy, this is the case. To me,

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Speaker 4: this video changes everything, and there's some irony that a

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Speaker 4: man who has spent his whole life putting out images,

622
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Speaker 4: videos to make him into the star he is is ultimately,

623
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Speaker 4: I believe, going to be brought down because of this video.

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Speaker 4: That is something that is going to be in the

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00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 4: jury's mind. And the excuses are just excuses.

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Speaker 2: You just stated that Cove spent an entire lifetime curating

627
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: an image through video and photos like what image?

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Speaker 4: Let me give you examples of this. There were images

629
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Speaker 4: to make him look powerful, images to make him look important,

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Speaker 4: images to make him look literally like a king. I

631
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 4: got Diddy was People magazine Sexiest Men Alive issue. He

632
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 4: wanted the cover. He did not get that, but he

633
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 4: was in the issue and he shot it as if

634
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 4: he was a king. He asked at the photoshoot if

635
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Speaker 4: he could have a crown on his head, if he

636
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 4: could have a coat, a fur coat. And he knew

637
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Speaker 4: the power of images. I remember distinctly he once said

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00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 4: to me, Rob, the story doesn't matter. The headline and

639
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 4: the photograph is all anybody remembers. He knew the power

640
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 4: of media, he knew the power of video, and he

641
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 4: exploited it, and now it's going to bite him in

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00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 4: the button.

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00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 2: Straight out to Sidney Sumner, Crime Story's investigative reporter, who

644
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 2: has been on the case from the beginning and has

645
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 2: been analyzing Cassie Ventiro's testimony, Sidney, the high points of

646
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 2: Cassie Ventira's testimony, explain Nancay.

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Speaker 8: I think the high point of Cassy's testimony is that

648
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Speaker 8: Dinny was in control of many aspects of her life.

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Speaker 8: So she meets Combes at just nineteen years old. Their

650
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Speaker 8: relationship begins when she's just about twenty one, and she

651
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 8: talks about not even wanting to kiss Sean Combs. So

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Speaker 8: the first time that they shared a kiss, they weren't

653
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Speaker 8: a couple at this point. The first time he showed

654
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 8: romantic interest in her was at her twenty first birthday

655
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 8: party in Las Vegas, and Cafy admits that the kids

656
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 8: left her feeling extremely confused. She ran from her party

657
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 8: in tears, not sure what to do with that as

658
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 8: a new artist in the end industry. So their relationship

659
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 8: starting on that point and going from there, cong just

660
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 8: continued to take more and more control of her life

661
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 8: and he was always there, like she didn't pick up

662
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 8: the phone, He would call her over and over until

663
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 8: she did, or he would send security guards to come

664
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,919
Speaker 8: find her. So, on top of the freak offs, which

665
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 8: seems to be just a segment of their relationship, he

666
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 8: co werced her into anything. In everything, she didn't feel

667
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 8: like she had an ability to say no to Comb's,

668
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 8: especially with the violence. In the threats of releasing these videos,

669
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 8: Ventura talks about keeping broken iPhones and broken laptops and

670
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 8: things of that nature because she was so worried about

671
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 8: what was on them if anyone was to get their

672
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 8: hands on them.

673
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: Speaking of a laptop incident earlier on, we heard from

674
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 2: witness Philip Listen.

675
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 15: Philip described one evening where Ventura was at the computer

676
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 15: during a break in sex. Colms yelled for his girlfriend

677
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 15: to come to him, and when she did not, Colmbs

678
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 15: through a bottle of liquoric Cassie that shattered against the

679
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 15: wall after missing her head by inches, Philip says Colmbs

680
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 15: then dragged Ventura to another room and he overheard what

681
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 15: sounded like a smack, then Combs saying, when I tell

682
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 15: you to come here, you come here now, not later.

683
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 15: Moments later, the couple re emerged and Combs demanded they

684
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 15: resume joining us.

685
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: Is Rob Shooter, publicist for Seawn Combs.

686
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 2: Rob thank you for being with us, also star of

687
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 2: Naughty but Nice podcast and author of the foreword answer.

688
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 2: You have a particular insight into another relationship, if it

689
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 2: could be called that of Combs, which preceded Cassie Ventura

690
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 2: and is basically a blueprint. Second verse same as the first,

691
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 2: and that would be Kim Porter, the mother of his

692
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: children now dead. Rob Shooter describe come was his relationship

693
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 2: with miss Porter.

694
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 4: Puff's relationship with Kim was very much the same relationship

695
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 4: he had with Cassie. In fact, some people called Cassie

696
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 4: Kim two point over. They had seen this method, they

697
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 4: had seen this relationship, they had seen this brooming, and

698
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 4: so Kim was shy with what she was told. Was

699
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 4: very much on his arm. He didn't like her to

700
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 4: talk very much. He picked the clothes that he would wear,

701
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 4: He would decide the events that she would go to.

702
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 4: Cassie seems to be doing that too, or have done

703
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 4: that too. The difference, though, is that Kim didn't want

704
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 4: to be a recording artist. Cassie really did. She wanted

705
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 4: to bake it brig in show business. She wanted to

706
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 4: record songs, and so my heart breaks for her because

707
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 4: she was not only in debt to Diddy in her

708
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 4: personal life, but also her professional life, which must be impossible,

709
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 4: almost impossible for her to get away from.

710
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 2: Special guest joining me Brett Brown, Executive director, ass Surviving Assault,

711
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 2: Standing Strong. You know it's the same old thing, it's

712
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 2: not a new story. And to try to explain why

713
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 2: women stay, I mean, when a woman's faced with losing

714
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: her home, losing her career, maybe losing her children, being

715
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 2: blackballed in the industry.

716
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: What would you do? What would you not do to

717
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: ensure those things don't happen? What about it? Brett?

718
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 16: Well, I think it's everything that you just said. The

719
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 16: part that we're kind of missing is.

720
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 4: The beginning in the end.

721
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 16: You know, these women they want to be seen and

722
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 16: they want to be respected, and they want to achieve,

723
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 16: and those desires get used against them in this power

724
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 16: in battle. And so whether we're talking about Harvey Weinstein

725
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 16: or we're talking about Shawn Combs, the recipe is still

726
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 16: the same. And once they're on the hook with these

727
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 16: powerful men, then become you enters. The threats and the

728
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 16: violence and the force, and so fear and financial insecurity

729
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 16: and so many other things start to play in and

730
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 16: so it's not a matter if I keep going so

731
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 16: I can get something. These women have to stay in

732
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 16: this situation in order to stay alive. And it's interesting

733
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 16: to me because Shawn Combs, like any abuser, has spent

734
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 16: an enormous amount of time on his reputation and on

735
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 16: his look to make sure that he seems like the

736
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 16: fun guy next door. And here is this predator sitting

737
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 16: in a courtroom with a Bible, And I just wanted

738
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 16: to say that even Satan quoted scripture in the Bible,

739
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 16: and at the end of the day, he was still

740
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 16: the devil.

741
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Speaker 2: Lauren Colin an investigative reporter and start a pop Crime TV.

742
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: Lauren, thank you for being with us. What happened in courty.

743
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 3: You saw Kid Cutty testify and it was fairly quick.

744
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 3: It took a portion of the morning, and during opening statements,

745
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 3: the prosecutors gave us a little bit of a taste

746
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 3: about this break in that involved Ditty, an assistant and

747
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 3: one of his associates. Well, when Kid Cutty aka Scott

748
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 3: Mescadi took the stand, it turns out that Ditty was

749
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 3: the one that broke into his house, kidnapped one of

750
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 3: his employees. Capricorn Clark with an associate went over there

751
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 3: looking for Cassie.

752
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 14: And this was.

753
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 3: After Sean Holmes found out about this relationship that was

754
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 3: going on between hit Cutty and Cassie. And look, kid

755
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,720
Speaker 3: Cutty said he was a little confused. Cassie had told

756
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 3: him that she and Sean Colmes were broken up. You know,

757
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 3: they were on again, off again. So when he got

758
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 3: this call from Cassie where she was very very upset

759
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 3: and alarmed. This was in twenty eleven, he went to

760
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 3: pick her up. He took her to a hotel and

761
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 3: it turns out she gave Sean Colmes kid Cutty's address.

762
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 3: This came out that was a little confusing. So kid

763
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 3: Cutty finds out that Sean Colmes is at his house

764
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 3: because Capricorn Clark, the assistant, calls him and Cassie from

765
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 3: the driveway in the car, very scared and says, look,

766
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 3: Colmes is in the house. Now kid Cutty gets very upset.

767
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 3: He says he's going over there. So he drives over

768
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 3: there and he says that he calls Sean Colmes and

769
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 3: he says, hey, mother, effer, why are you in my house?

770
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 3: And Ditty says something like I just want to talk now.

771
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 3: When he gets to the house, Ditty's no longer there.

772
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 3: He notices that, you know, nothing is broken, nothing is

773
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,720
Speaker 3: out of place, but he did have some Christmas presents

774
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 3: for his family in chanel boxes. Those were unwrapped on

775
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 3: the kitchen table, and his dog was locked in a bathroom.

776
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 3: He also noted that the surveillance cameras outside his house

777
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 3: appeared to be pointed down. Now, after this, you know,

778
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 3: he leaves. He sees that he's got text messages from Colms,

779
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 3: and he thinks to himself, Okay, I don't really know

780
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 3: if I want to get involved here because who knows

781
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 3: if he has weapons whatever. So he actually calls the

782
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 3: police and files a police report. Now we've discussed this.

783
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 3: It's December of twenty eleven.

784
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 8: Kid Cutty and.

785
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 3: Cassie go to Cassie's family home in Connecticut for the holidays.

786
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 3: Sean Colmes still is texting Kid Cutty, you know, trying

787
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 3: to talk to him, trying to you know, get a

788
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 3: meeting with him, and Cutty ignores him, and then Cassie

789
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 3: ends up breaking up with him on his trip. He

790
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 3: returns back to la and a month later, it's January

791
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 3: twenty twelve. He is about forty five minutes away from

792
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 3: his house, Kid Cutty and his dog. Babysitter calls him

793
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 3: and says, your car is on fire in the driveway.

794
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 3: A Molotov cocktail has somehow been thrown in the car.

795
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 3: We then see pictures of the car.

796
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 14: The roof is.

797
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 3: Broken in or sunken in with a hole in it.

798
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 3: The inside is all charred. He calls the police, files

799
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 3: the police report, and then a few days later he says, Okay,

800
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 3: you know that's it. I'm contacting Combs or we're gonna

801
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 3: work this out. So they have a meeting at the

802
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 3: La Soho house. He describes h. D Rock, the security

803
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 3: guard that we've heard about multiple times, ushering him into

804
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 3: this room, and this got a lot of laughed Nancy.

805
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 3: He described Colmbs as facing this big window in the

806
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 3: room with his back towards him, his hands behind his back,

807
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 3: and he actually said he looked like a Marvel super villain.

808
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 3: So he said also that Diddy's demeanor was so calm

809
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 3: that it was almost bizarre. He offered him water twice.

810
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 3: You know and and they seemed to work it out.

811
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 3: And then at the end of the conversation and Cassie

812
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 3: joined later by the way, and at the end of

813
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 3: the conversation, Cutty says, they shook hands and while their

814
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 3: hands were clasped, he said, well, what about my car,

815
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 3: and and Diddy basically was like, I don't know anything

816
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 3: about your car, and they let their hands go, and

817
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 3: then you know, they kind of walked out and that

818
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 3: was that. And he said he hadn't seen him until

819
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 3: a few years later. He saw him again at the

820
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 3: Soho house and this time Diddya's was with his two daughters,

821
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 3: and he apologized to Kit Cutty and said, look, I'm

822
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 3: sorry for everything that's that happened, anything that went on

823
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 3: between us, but Nancy. When Brian Steele got up to

824
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 3: do the cross examination, he pointed out a couple of things,

825
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 3: as that's his job. But he pointed out that during

826
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 3: the break in kid Cutty's door, there's no damage to it.

827
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 3: The door was wide open and anybody could have walked in.

828
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:43,919
Speaker 3: He also pointed out that there were DNA or fingerprints

829
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 3: pulled from the investigation into the car blow up, and

830
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 3: those that DNA was actually it belonged to a female.

831
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: Okay, let me understand something.

832
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 2: So one month later, after the whole CASTI venturer really

833
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 2: relationship blows up, one month later, Kid Cuddy's car is

834
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 2: bombed with a molotov. So isn't it true that Shawn

835
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 2: Colmbs had discussed blowing up his car?

836
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 3: Yes, Cassie, this is through Cassie. She said that this

837
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 3: was discussed and he was going to do it when

838
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 3: one of Kid Cutty's friends were present.

839
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 2: So Shawn Combs's fingerprints and DNA were not on the

840
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 2: car that was blown up with a molotov?

841
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: One month after? Did he threatened to blow it up? Okay? Sorry,

842
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: not impressed?

843
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 2: I mean, do you really think Shawn Combs did He

844
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 2: was going to run down to the sip go or

845
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 2: the Valero, would pump his own gas into a container

846
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 2: and make his own molotov. I mean, he didn't even

847
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 2: clean up his own disgusting hotel rooms that were covered

848
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 2: with a baby oil slick.

849
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: He made somebody else do it.

850
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 2: So of course his DNA isn't there. Why is it important?

851
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 2: Because that that is what a criminal enterprise is. Now

852
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 2: we see former assistant George Kaplan on the stand now

853
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 2: talk about an unindicted co conspirator That would be him.

854
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 10: Listen assistant George Caplan says he was sent to pick

855
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 10: up drugs for his famous boss.

856
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 11: Caplin says Sean Combs gave him cash and a phone.

857
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: Number to call crime stories with Nancy Grace.

858
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,720
Speaker 2: While pondering lawsuits and taking his mansion off the market.

859
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: Shawn comes sitting behind.

860
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 2: Bars this as he appears to have called a halt

861
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 2: to his month's long quest to find a buyer for

862
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 2: that California home. It was the subject of Homeland Security

863
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 2: raid agents storm of the property looking for evidence in

864
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 2: a sex trafficking violation. Speaking of the fifty cent documentary,

865
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 2: now we learn Shawn Combe's sons, Justin and Christian are

866
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 2: set to start in a docuseries about their father's trial

867
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:19,720
Speaker 2: and conviction ch' ching. They plan to relive their dad's

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Speaker 2: high profile trial in a new documentary series. It's Justin

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Speaker 2: Comb's age thirty one, Christian King Comb's age twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: They have already appeared in a new trailer, and the

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00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 2: end of that trailer, Justin Combs's phone vibrates. He picks

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Speaker 2: up a collect call from Fort Dix, c I where

873
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 2: his dad behind bars? Wonder what the bidding is for

874
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Speaker 2: the Shawn Comb's documentary now being made by his sons,

875
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Speaker 2: and I wonder if and how they will tackle damning

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Speaker 2: evidence against their dad.

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Speaker 1: Shawn comes evidence like this.

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Speaker 10: Assistant George Kaplan says he was sent to pick up

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Speaker 10: drugs for his famous boss. Kaplan says Shawn Combs gave

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Speaker 10: him cash in a phone number to.

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Speaker 2: Call so Shawn Combs could talk a grown man into

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Speaker 2: going and buying his drugs for him.

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Speaker 1: No, wonder this went down in the courtroom?

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Speaker 5: Listen did He's former assistant, George Kaplan takes the stand.

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00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 5: Kaplan tells the judge he is only here because of

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Speaker 5: a subpoena and he plans to invoke his Fifth Amendment right.

887
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 5: Judge SUPERMANI and grants Kaplin immunity. The deal does not

888
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Speaker 5: cover perjury.

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00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 2: You see a little snippet of all the drugs seized

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Speaker 2: at Shawn Combe's mansion. Now we know that Frank Black

891
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 2: was a name a pseudonym used to check Sean Comb's

892
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 2: in and out of hotel rooms. Also used to get

893
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Speaker 2: fake prescriptions, which is illegal. You think that Shawn comes

894
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 2: rolled up in his SUV to the CBS or the

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Speaker 2: Dwayne Reid or the Walgreens and got his own stuff.

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Speaker 1: No, uh uh, there had to be a minion.

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Speaker 2: Troye Slayton Shawn Holmes convinced Kaplan to perform crimes for

898
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Speaker 2: him buying drugs get illegal drugs.

899
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Speaker 1: Such as MDMA.

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Speaker 2: Also convinced him to get prescription drugs under a fake name.

901
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Speaker 2: We're Slaton, also a crime. So now he is talking

902
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 2: his minion into buying his astroglide, lubricant, his baby oil,

903
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 2: his candles, his liquor, all of that and importantly critically

904
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Speaker 2: using the company credit card.

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Speaker 1: Chroice Slaton.

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Speaker 12: Well buy an astro glide, although it may sound gross

907
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 12: in this situations, not even buying drugs, yes, illegal, but

908
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 12: that doesn't make a Rico case. The government still has

909
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 12: to prove that the purchasing the drugs was to advance

910
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 12: the criminal enterprise, was to advance his business interest, his

911
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 12: legitimate business interests he had.

912
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Speaker 2: You think Diddy took all those drugs himself, No, that

913
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 2: was being dropped in the woman's drinks. I mean you

914
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 2: need to go back to law school, man and take

915
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Speaker 2: a refresher course on rico. Rico is anything any Act

916
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Speaker 2: that advances a crime, and the crimes have to be

917
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 2: laid out in the indictment, which they are.

918
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Speaker 1: I've already read them to you. I'll read them again.

919
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Speaker 1: Sex trapping, for labor, kidnapping, arson stressing.

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Speaker 12: Those are all terrible things, But that doesn't make rico.

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Speaker 2: You have to prove that Diddy was using all those

922
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Speaker 2: drugs for he'd be dead if he took them all.

923
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Speaker 2: He was feeding them to these women in their what

924
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Speaker 2: do you think the astro glide, the baby oils for

925
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Speaker 2: for a free off according to these women against their will,

926
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Speaker 2: and bringing in mill sex workers from another state that

927
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Speaker 2: is against the law.

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Speaker 12: Recoferent, that would be that sex trafficking. So we're we're

929
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Speaker 12: mixing up two different things there. Nancy, you know that

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Speaker 12: those are sement.

931
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Speaker 2: Yes, you're the one that said astrogeline had nothing to

932
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Speaker 2: do with it.

933
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Speaker 1: It has everything to do with it, just like the

934
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Speaker 1: baby oil.

935
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Speaker 12: Just because somebody is having a rock star is having

936
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Speaker 12: a drug fueled party, doesn't mean that they're guilty of rico.

937
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Speaker 2: To doctor Bethany Marshall, that video of the literally a

938
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Speaker 2: Dixie dumpster going down the hallway of the hotel, Doctor

939
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Speaker 2: Bethany how do you convince grown men and women to

940
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 2: do your illegal bidding and clean up your bodily fluids,

941
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Speaker 2: your spinancy, your baby oil, your astro glide, and they

942
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Speaker 2: do it.

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Speaker 13: All of it, Nancy. Probably what he did is he

944
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 13: started out being super charming with them, pretending to be

945
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Speaker 13: their friend, buying them gifts, pretending to advance their interests

946
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Speaker 13: in some way, and once he gained their trust, he

947
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Speaker 13: would send them out on some criminal act. Once they

948
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Speaker 13: committed the criminal act, now they were stuck and could

949
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Speaker 13: not get away.

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00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 2: Isn't it true, Cydney Summer, That sworn testimony is that

951
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 2: Shawn Colmes tried to bribe a security guy.

952
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Speaker 8: That's correct, Nancy. He tried to hand this security guard

953
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 8: a stack of money as big as his hand to

954
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 8: leave them alone and to just drop the whole situation

955
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 8: and not get Cassie Ventura out of that Intercontinental Hotel room.

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Speaker 2: So Tom Smith, a former NYPD star of Goalshields podcast,

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Speaker 2: Tom Smith, I guess it's just a.

958
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Speaker 1: Diddy world and we all live in in it.

959
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 2: Because all these people are so afraid or have their

960
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 2: careers at stake, they go along with it.

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Speaker 1: It will be a cold.

962
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Speaker 2: Day in hgubl that I would go clean up somebody

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Speaker 2: else's bodily fluids unless my children threw up, It's.

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Speaker 1: Not gonna happen. But all these people just went along

965
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: to get along, yep.

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Speaker 17: And its influence and it's his power that controlled them.

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Speaker 17: What can he do for them in the future, How

968
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 17: can he propel their their jobs, their careers, anything like that.

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00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 17: That all is involved in this power trip that he

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00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 17: was on. And like you know, Nancy, once you get

971
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Speaker 17: away with it a little bit, you keep pushing the

972
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Speaker 17: envelope to the next level, to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Right now, Shawn Combs in a federal courthouse being charged

974
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Speaker 2: and being tried for a multi count federal indictment. And

975
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Speaker 2: what Rico means, which is the major prize for the state,

976
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Speaker 2: is that Shawn Combs headed up a criminal enterprise involving

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Speaker 2: many many crimes, including arson, blowing up Kid Cuddy's cock,

978
00:57:55,520 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 2: while lawsuits fly, release dates moving closer and closer, and

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Speaker 2: documentaries in the words, we.

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Speaker 1: Wait as just as un folks.

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Speaker 2: Nancy Grace signing up goodbye friend,