1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Hey, we are back on normally the show with normal 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: it takes for when the news gets weird. 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 2: I am very Cathern Kant, I am Carol Marcowix. This 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: has been It is a really long week. 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: Huh. 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 2: And I'm not even like trapesing through the Middle East. 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: I know, just. 8 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: Early halfway through it. It's because it starts the week's 9 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: start on Saturday or Sundays. He starts breaking news, right 10 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: and then yeah. 11 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Donald Trump, can you let us have some time 12 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 2: off because this is a lot. It's a lot and 13 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: all the time. 14 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: You thought you wanted to switch it up from Biden, 15 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: but you we even though we've been through this before, 16 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: you didn't know how much get. 17 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 2: Yes, this second term is way more hectic than the first. 18 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 2: And I could use some Trump at the golf course 19 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: days to be to be really honest with you, I 20 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: see that those are my mental health days. 21 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: Yes. Could I have like pitched to people who are 22 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: closer to the White House than I am that he 23 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: talks so much and he does so many events that 24 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: if they would just put them on a podcast feed, 25 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: I would just have that running in my house and 26 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 1: folding laundry all the time, So I would actually get 27 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 1: to hear everything he says instead of hunting down each 28 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: individual thing. But that would be that would be someone's 29 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: full time job, right, just ripping Trump audio, putting it 30 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: on a podcast mark it would. 31 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: Be the number one listen to podcasts in the country. 32 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: I think Joe Rogan, who you know, I think he 33 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: would do well. That's the way to pitch it to him. 34 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: Would you like the number one podcast in the country, sir? 35 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: Lots of money? Oh, you guy have to have to. 36 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 2: Take ad breaks for like relief factor, but other than that, 37 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: but yeah, it is. 38 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: A striking contrast to the last president, who is our 39 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: first story today. 40 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: Joe Biden not doing well during the presidency. I didn't notice. 41 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: Well, there's some breaking new, Carol. I'm going to give 42 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: you about a minute of the NBC Nightly News last night. 43 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 2: Last night. This is a twenty twenty five. 44 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: Okay, twenty twenty five, this is the NBC night Leaders. 45 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: Here we go. 46 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, there are damaging new details tonight about former President Biden. 47 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 3: A new book alleges serious concerns about his mental acuity. 48 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 3: Gab Gutierrez joins US now and gay President Biden's team 49 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 3: is now responding to this reporting. 50 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: That's right, Leicester. 51 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 4: According to an excerpt from the new book obtained by 52 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 4: NBC News, it was quote obvious to many at a 53 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 4: fundraiser last summer that then President Biden did not know 54 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 4: who George Clooney was, even though they were longtime acquaintances 55 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 4: in Clooney is one of the most famous men in 56 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 4: the world. The book, by journalist Jake Tapper and Alex 57 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 4: Thompson goes on to say former President Obama, who was 58 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 4: also at the event, had to hop in and finish 59 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 4: sentences for Biden during photo ops. In separate excerpts, the 60 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 4: author's right that Biden would forget the names of longtime 61 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 4: aids and that there were internal discussions about putting the 62 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 4: president in a wheelchair in a second term. At the time, 63 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 4: the White House publicly defended the president's fitness for office. 64 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 4: A Biden spokesperson now says the authors did not fact 65 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 4: check the book with them, adding we continue to await 66 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 4: anything that shows where Joe Biden had to make a 67 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 4: presidential decision, or where national security was threatened, or where 68 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 4: he was unable to do his job. 69 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: He was a very effective president. 70 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: Breaking Carol, you know, I look at their faces I'm 71 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 2: a poker player, and I'm always looking for little tells 72 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: of when people are lying. I can't find that Lester 73 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 2: or Gabe are lying in that clip. They really think 74 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: this is news. I think that they really believe that 75 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: he was okay. I don't know what else to say. 76 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: I don't see the lying face on them. I do 77 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,119 Speaker 2: see it in other people. However, I enjoy. 78 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: The Biden team's assertion that y'all should have fact checked this. 79 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: You got to run this by us, right not? I mean, 80 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: those days are apparently gone now that you're dispensable. 81 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know about that. Our old friend Brian 82 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 2: Stelter tweeted today that Jake Tapper said many of the 83 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: sources for original sin book wouldn't be candid with us 84 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 2: until after the election, and Brian adds, well, sorry, Tapper ads, 85 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 2: Thus we now have facts about what was really going 86 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 2: on behind the scenes, with details about the Democrats wouldn't 87 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: share with us until after election day. They didn't have 88 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: the facts, Mary Catherine, nobody told them the people. The 89 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: next thing, you know, in the White House didn't tell them. 90 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: The next thing NBC Nightly News is going to tell 91 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: me is that Trump wasn't a Russian plant, or that 92 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden was not in fact an international expert and 93 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: renowned artists, or or that maybe schools didn't actually need 94 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: to be closed. All this breaking news and it could 95 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: come to pass. I mean, we were reaching sort of 96 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: ludicrous levels of media reporting on media finally noticing what 97 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: eighty percent of Americans noticed in two I just I 98 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 1: understand that there are more details now. I also the 99 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: details that they're debuting are not the details I want 100 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: at all. 101 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 2: If you want to know who was running the country, 102 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: thank you. 103 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: If you have access to these people. I need to 104 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: know who was the president. That's what I need to know. 105 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: Not I don't need to know when George Clooney got 106 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: embarrassed enough about the president that he needed to write 107 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: it out bad. That's not what I need to know, right. 108 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 2: It's funny that him not recognizing George Clooney brought down 109 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 2: to his straw. And you know, I've said this on 110 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 2: the show before, but as I get older, I am 111 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: so bad with faces and names, Like I just so 112 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 2: I hear you, Joe Biden, who could recognize George Clooney. 113 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: So there's a great part actually in this excerpt that 114 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: ran in the New Yorker that has an aid walking 115 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: Joe Biden around and like this happened a lot. Is 116 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: the thing. You could see it with your eyeball. Someone 117 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: was walking him around and the way he's walking him 118 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: around in this retelling of it at this fundraiser where 119 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: they're raising tens of millions of dollars for this guy 120 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: to be president for another four years, he's introducing him 121 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: to folks and he's like, going down the lines, I 122 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: thank of an like for Renner, and then he says, 123 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: you know George, right, Like that's how he introduces him 124 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: to George Clooney because like Grandpa needs to be reminded 125 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: who George is. And he's clear, it's very clear he 126 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: doesn't know who George is. And he's like, Grandpa, George Clooney. Fact, 127 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: he's like and he's like, ah, yeah, George, I know you. 128 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: It's just all so on the nose. Uh. And that's 129 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: why none of the back covering or like the covering 130 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: of it now doesn't make up for them, because every 131 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: voter could see this, right, You could see it happening, 132 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: and the reporters themselves on many a network at that event. 133 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: The one where we saw Obama lead Biden off stage 134 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: and we were like, oh, that seems bad. They were 135 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: like no, no, no, Jeep makes fit as a fiddle. 136 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 2: Look, they only have two options, right, They were either 137 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: lying to us or they were blind. So I will 138 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: accept either one of those that they just completely didn't 139 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 2: want to see what was in front of their faces. 140 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,239 Speaker 2: I only accept that though, if they admit they're part 141 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: of a left team and they are their tag group, 142 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: the Democrats. Fine, you didn't see it because you didn't 143 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: want to see it. Because you didn't you weren't told 144 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: to see it. It's because you're on a squad with 145 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: the Democrats. That's why admit it, and we can all 146 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: move on from here. 147 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: Well, and here's the thing that's very useful to have 148 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: going on right now. If you're looking for the energy 149 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: that this press corps can put into a health issue 150 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: for a politician if they find him inconven please look 151 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: into the coverage of John Fetterman this week, which when 152 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: he was a lefty that they approved of was oh, 153 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: he's so brave for seeking treatment, he'll recover fully. And 154 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: now that he's inconvenient, we're looking at five six hit 155 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: pieces a week on John Fetterman. So that's what it 156 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: looks like when they want to cover something like this. 157 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: In this case, I think you're right, Carol, that the 158 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: group think and the demands of being ideological fellow travelers 159 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: meant that they were like, we're good, I see nothing. 160 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: And another part of this that I think helped create 161 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: this situation is that in order to be a good 162 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: ideological fellow traveler in twenty twenty and twenty one, when 163 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: he started his when he had his campaign and the 164 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: beginning of his presidency, what do you have to do 165 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: never see anyone in person? So good lib reporters were 166 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 1: all like, oh, obviously we can have no access to 167 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: the president. That's aokay with us. We couldn't be good 168 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: libs if we didn't, if we were trying to give 169 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:03,599 Speaker 1: our COVID, you know. They so they created this environment 170 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: that in order to be a good LIB you protect 171 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. And the way you protect Joe Biden from 172 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: COVID is also to protect go to make Joe Biden 173 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: from reporting. Isn't that neat? Isn't that neat? Yeah? 174 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 2: Unfortunately they kept that going into like twenty twenty three 175 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 2: and twenty twenty four and he rarely answered questions, and 176 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: they didn't seem to mind. It became like, why are 177 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 2: you wanting us to ask the president questions? 178 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: What kind of you? Yeah? Well, and there's the one 179 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: last part of it, which you're you're right, they should 180 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: just say like, look, this is why we missed it. 181 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: You should name names of who lied to you, if 182 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: people in the White House were lying to you, because 183 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: again I want to know who was doing that. And 184 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: then the last part is you got to apologize for 185 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: having smeared everyone who didn't make the same mistake. That's right, 186 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: that no, but like that would be part of the reckoning, right. 187 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 2: You know, Alex Thompson, who is the co author on 188 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: this book, was actually decent on this question. He actually 189 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 2: was asking whether the president had simply, you know, reached 190 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: the point where he was toold to run for reelection. 191 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: He was, but his co author Jake Tapper less so. 192 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 2: And there's a segment where Jake tears into Lara Trump. 193 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: And it's funny because yesterday Alex Thompson tweeted clips of 194 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 2: Jake Tapper saying like kind of saying, people are asking 195 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: whether the president is all there. People are saying that 196 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 2: maybe he's not. But what Alex Thompson said was setting 197 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 2: aside the Laura Trump segment, Well, you can't set that aside. 198 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that's a really big segment where you saw 199 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: Jake Tapper try to get around the issue and accuse 200 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 2: her of lying or spreading falsehoods about Biden's situation. 201 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: Well, and the argument in that clip and many others 202 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: throughout the years was it's a stutter, and I'm sorry 203 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: it wasn't a stutter. Stutter, even if it was less 204 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 1: bad in twenty twenty, which would be a mitigating factor 205 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: a little. 206 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 5: Bit, it wasn't a stutter, right, It just wasn't. 207 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: We could you could see him get off Marine one 208 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: and not know how to walk into his own house 209 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: like that is a problem. And there were plenty of 210 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: people who were frank about it early, right, and should 211 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: get the plaudits that journalists are now getting for finally answering. 212 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: Alex Hampson, by the way, also did actual reporting on 213 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: like the kind of shoes they had put him in 214 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: and how they were working with his gait. And then 215 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: I'm just going to reiterate it doesn't really matter about 216 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 1: his gait or whether he was in a wheelchair, if 217 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: his brain worked and he was able to do the job, 218 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: he wasn't doing the job right. 219 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 2: You know, I have to find this clip. But like 220 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:02,599 Speaker 2: when he was vice president with Barack Obama, so you 221 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 2: know this has to be pre twenty sixteen. He spoke 222 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 2: to middle schoolers. Tom Elliott posts live tweeted it at 223 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 2: the time. I don't even think he posted a clip. 224 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 2: But he ends up like ranting and raving to these 225 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 2: middle schoolers about like oil companies and like the just 226 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: nonsense things that like, no, the children are sitting there, 227 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 2: like what are you saying? And this is before Trump's 228 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 2: first term, so yeah, it only got progressively worse from there. 229 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: There's one thing that's like telling in this piece, in 230 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: this excerpt that maybe they're not truly reckoning with it, 231 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: is that they put it in Clooney's perspective. But they 232 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: say Biden gave a rousing State of the Union address 233 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: in March of twenty twenty four, and I'm like, that 234 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: wasn't good. That wasn't a good I know where bar 235 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: is low, yes, but when he gave that speech, you know, 236 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: I always say that like they found a way to 237 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: sort of respute in him to where he needed to 238 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: be most of the time. And that was one of 239 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: the nights where they like, he was out there, he 240 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: was shouting, he was doing shout whisper, he was going 241 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: to a big shout, he was doing the whole thing, 242 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 1: and like, yes. 243 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 2: I'm a shout whisper. 244 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: He did say the words, but it was not a 245 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: good speech. This is not a speech by a guy 246 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 1: who you went like, yeah, he needs four more years, 247 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: and that the idea that we were still sort of 248 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: being fooled in March of twenty twenty four, when a 249 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: lot of us were like, h right, no, no, no, yeah, 250 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: I mean you bypassed your primary season. But that's not 251 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 1: our fault. 252 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 2: Right, They did that on purpose. I mean, let's be 253 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 2: real about that too. They could not move Kamala Harris 254 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: off the stage. I don't know how they were planning 255 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 2: to do that. It's funny because I you know, I 256 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 2: got stuff right. I like to repost my column from 257 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two saying that something's wrong with the president, 258 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 2: but I got stuff wrong. I didn't think Biden, sorry, 259 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: I didn't think Biden would step down. I didn't think 260 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 2: he would not run. I thought I thought he would 261 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 2: make it to the end. And Buck Sexton, who had 262 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 2: the same prediction I did, likes to say we were right. 263 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: He did run, he just didn't finish the race. And 264 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: he didn't he didn't even run. He didn't even really 265 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: step down, so exactly. 266 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 2: Like maybe he knew he stepped down, maybe he didn't. 267 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 2: But the thing was that I knew that they could 268 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: not replace him with Gavin Newsom or I don't know. 269 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 2: There was all these crazy ideas Michelle Obama, it was 270 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 2: going to be Kamala Harris no matter what. And I 271 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 2: was like. 272 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: Oh, they're not going to do that. 273 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 2: That's a crazy thing for them to do. 274 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, I am enjoying. I am enjoying the debate 275 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: that they're having. You know, the the Lebron Jordan Goat 276 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: debate is always very interesting because they both have they're 277 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: both incredible. They're both incredible. I'm a Jordan gal myself, 278 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: and so it's a it's an interesting debate because you 279 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: can continue to talk about it forever. This is like 280 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: that but worst of all time, because both of them 281 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: were so bad that they're like, oh, well, she only 282 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: needed more time. If she'd had more time, I think 283 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: she would have done worse. She needed least time, and 284 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: He's like, I totally could have beat him, and I'm like, no, 285 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: you couldn't. You were much further behind than her, and 286 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: she's terrible. 287 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I still think Biden would have done better 288 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: than she did. I know I do, because he was 289 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 2: despite being not with it and the fact that he 290 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 2: was definitely losing it. I think people trusted him and 291 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: they knew him in a way that they just didn't 292 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 2: know her. And I think that's what they mean when 293 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 2: they say she needed more time to gain the voter's trust. 294 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 2: I just don't think she would have because she was 295 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 2: not capable of it, right, the whole like not going 296 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 2: on Joe Rogan wasn't about going on Joe Rogan. She 297 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 2: could not talk for two hours, she could not talk 298 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 2: for an hour. 299 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: She couldn't right, she wouldn't be able. 300 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 2: To do any of that without making some major major gaffs. 301 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 2: So I mean she had less time, she had a 302 00:15:59,280 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 2: better shot. 303 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: As from a liberals point of view, just like you know, 304 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: they can't imagine how anyone would ever see Trump as 305 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: an option, So just from their point of view, if 306 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: you're arguing about these two Yeah, just know that she 307 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: was so bad as vice president that she lost a 308 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: plausibility contest with Donald Trump, right, and that he lied 309 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: so much about his own condition that he lost a 310 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: character argument to Donald Trump. That's the answer here we are. 311 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, speaking of Donald Trump, Yeah. 312 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: They've really got it all together now. I will say 313 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: I am glad, even though it's belated, and even though 314 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: it's because Biden is disposable at this point, I do 315 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: appreciate that there will be more of a record of 316 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: what went down. I wish it was more in the 317 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: nitty gritty of who was running the White House and 318 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: who was running the country. And I hope we get 319 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: some of that as this process goes on, because unfortunately, 320 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: the way the situation works is the people who have 321 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: the access are the ones who get that story. And 322 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: we do need to know for history what was happening there, 323 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: and the American people need to know, don't forget that 324 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: it happened. 325 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: I think I'm waiting for a staffer book. The first 326 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 2: staffer book is going to be I think a big one, 327 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 2: just because somebody give us a banger. Yeah, somebody's got 328 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: to be willing to break that code of silence. They 329 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 2: might have trouble working in democratic politics again though, So. 330 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's not like the Bidens are beloved 331 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: and Biden help these people out. No, he's got he's 332 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 1: got children to pay for. 333 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 2: Still, it's hard to see them telling the true story, 334 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 2: being honest, and still getting to hang around democratic politics. 335 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 2: So they have to be willing to take a leap. 336 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 2: Come on, staffers, do it, do it? Do it. 337 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: They don't have to pay for a Jake Sullivan book. 338 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: Well, we'll be right back on normally. Well, the President 339 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 2: continues his Middle East tour. I thought he gave a 340 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 2: really good speech in Saudi Arabia. I like that speech. 341 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm hearing things that other people 342 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 2: aren't hearing, but I didn't hear an isolationist speech, and 343 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: I certainly didn't hear an anti Israel speech. Two things 344 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 2: that I saw mentioned a lot on X I heard 345 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 2: a president say that America will stand with their allies 346 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 2: and hopes to make new allies. I'm okay with all that. 347 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very open to Donald Trump's philosophies in the 348 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: Middle East because last time around you got the Abraham Accords. Yeah, 349 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: you moved you moved the embassy. What was the thing 350 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 1: we were always told you moved the embassy. It's World 351 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: War three, right, the embassy can't be in Jerusalem. It's 352 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: the end of the world. And he does it. It's 353 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: like me and then it's done. Yeah, And it's been 354 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: there ever since, and it should have been there from 355 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: the beginning. So when when he wants to think differently 356 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 1: about the Middle East, I am very open to that, 357 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 1: totally so. And when he talks to different people, I 358 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: think he you know, like we've talked about many times, 359 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: he loves to be loved and that is a that 360 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: is an issue particular with royalty. If I love to 361 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: be loved. And also someone brought a mobile McDonald's around 362 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: with me while I was on my trip in sign Ravain. Yeah, 363 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: I gotta say I might be wooed, right, I didn't. 364 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: I did enjoy that. 365 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 5: Like the things that hold out hold out for bol Jangles, 366 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 5: I mean McDonald's, Maren Katherine, Hey, you know, I have 367 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 5: a wide variety of food that I would enjoy. 368 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: So anyway, those are issues, but I do allow for 369 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: the idea that his weird thinking and outside the box 370 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: thinking way different than the diplomatic core in DC can 371 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: be beneficial to the United States of America. I love 372 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: that Dan Alexander is with his family. He's posting pictures 373 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: on social media, having beers in public places and loving. Yeah, 374 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: it's a sin that every American doesn't know his name. 375 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: It really is, like that's been a wild thing about 376 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: post October seventh. Yeah, Americans trapped by terrorists in a 377 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: foreign land that attacked our ally. We don't know their names. 378 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: Regular Americans don't know their names because it just didn't 379 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: warrant coverage. 380 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 2: It's really crazy, really unacceptable. Yeah. I like that he 381 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 2: was released without giving up any terrorists. My point of 382 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 2: criticism was in the first deal that Witcough helped negotiate, 383 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 2: I thought he should have been named number one America first, 384 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 2: guys America first, so the Americans should have been out first. 385 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: I think Wincoff makes me a little nervous. In general. 386 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: He does, He definitely does. I don't trust him necessarily, 387 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 2: but I like in general on this issue, I'm open. 388 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 2: I am willing to be wrong. I want to be wrong. 389 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 2: I want him to be this incredible negotiator who fixes 390 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 2: all this. Nobody wants peace more than Israel does, so 391 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 2: if that's where this is headed, I would love for 392 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 2: it to happen for them. You know, we talked about 393 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 2: it in the last episode. There was rumor that Edon 394 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 2: was going to go to Kutar and meet with Trump there. 395 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 2: That didn't happen, you know that. Yeah, I said that. 396 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 2: I didn't think that that was going to happen. People 397 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 2: commented they liked that. I pointed out that Israel has 398 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 2: a far left media just like we do, and you 399 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 2: have to take a lot of things that come out 400 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 2: of there with a large grain of salt. Another story 401 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 2: last week was that Trump was going to imminently recognize 402 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 2: the country of Palestine. That didn't happen. I mean, you 403 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 2: just we have to temper our news intake from there, 404 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 2: just like we do from here. I will tell you 405 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 2: the story that I most loved from the Middle East 406 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 2: of this trip is Trump flat out saying to Syria 407 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: recognize the existence of Israel. Like that's a very trumpy 408 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 2: Who else does that? 409 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: Who else? 410 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 2: Guys? I think you should recognize Israel, know what I mean? 411 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: It's it's wild. 412 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very very chump. 413 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a different he's a different creature in these ways. 414 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,719 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think Trump is a real conundrum because 415 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: what he does is he talks all the time. He 416 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: never almost never leaves anything off the table. So if 417 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: you ask him about a possibility, it doesn't matter how 418 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: crazy the possibility is. And this is what the press 419 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: does sometimes, doesn't matter how crazy the possibility is or 420 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: how little he's going to engage in it, he just 421 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: doesn't want it off the table, right, And he's like, oh, 422 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: I wouldn't I wouldn't say one hundred percent, we wouldn't 423 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: do that. Like, if nuking the moon is an option, 424 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: I want it available to me right right. 425 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 2: Why would I take nuking the moon off the table? 426 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 427 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: So but as a result, you and I and the 428 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: press and people reading the press don't know which parts 429 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: to take seriously and which parts not. And then the press, 430 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 1: the binding itself up, makes it worse for everybody. So 431 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: we try our bat. I think you had some good, 432 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: good predictions the other day, and I'm glad to cant 433 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: that worked out that way. 434 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 2: We're going to take a short break and come right 435 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 2: back with normally, I think we should turn to the 436 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 2: most important issue of the day, our sheath dresses. Maga. 437 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 6: Yes. 438 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 2: I saw that, Heideline, and I was like, oh God, 439 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 2: The New York Times is just so good panting articles 440 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 2: for me and you to talk about on this show. 441 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 2: They're like, we heard this show normally likes to mock 442 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 2: this kind of thing. Let us give them some ammunition here. 443 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: So this is sweet. Miriam has written into The New 444 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: York Times for some advice, and she says my style 445 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: can be described as modern, minimalist meets classic. I own 446 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: several sheath dressed dresses that fit and flatter, but when 447 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: I put them on now, they echo what I see 448 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 1: as Maga style. How can I restyle them without sacrificing 449 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: my aesthetic. It's like girls just put on a dress 450 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: with like a leather jacket from us wear. 451 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 2: A sheath dress however you want to wear it, and 452 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 2: double middle fingers to anybody who doesn't like it. I 453 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 2: just like, I don't know. There's like, there's so much 454 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 2: of this that I just don't understand why people change 455 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 2: because of politics. You know, there's the anti Israel protesters 456 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 2: use the watermelon to signify that they hate Israel or whatever. 457 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 2: I'm not not putting my kids like in a watermelon 458 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 2: bathing suit because of that. 459 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: I don't care what you think. 460 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,719 Speaker 2: It's my watermelon. 461 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: I don't care. 462 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't understand how they just give up 463 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 2: the sheath dress. I wouldn't be like, oh, well, liberals 464 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 2: wear sheath dresses, so I'm not gonna wear it, even 465 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 2: though it looks good on me. 466 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: A lot of li I wear a lot of lib clothing, 467 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: like I'm I can be very lib signally in my 468 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: giant jeans and T shirts. On the right of it 469 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: says there's a very specific look associated with women who 470 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: subscribe to the Trump worldview, one that is sort of 471 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: a cross between a Fox newscaster and Miss Universe, Thank 472 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: you very much. It generally involves flowing tresses, their at 473 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: least shoulder length. I hit that one. I guess, yes, 474 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: fairly false eyelashes, don't have those plumped up cheeks and lips, 475 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: high heels. 476 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,719 Speaker 6: And as you say, a sheath dress, she says it 477 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 6: it speaks to an almost cartoonish femininity that speaks to 478 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 6: a relatively old fashioned gender stereo type. 479 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: Please you know. 480 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 2: And they put a picture of Lara Chump to illustrate it. 481 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 2: On She's unreal in that nuture. 482 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: She looks so good, that's the thing her. So she's 483 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: got her she's got her guns out, and they are 484 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: guns and they look fantastic. And by the way, that's 485 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: not that's not a traditionally cartoonishly feminine look right to 486 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: have biceps and delts sticking out of your sheath dress. 487 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: But I happen to like that look. She looks great, 488 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: go Lara, right, it's just so silly. And by the way, 489 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: if this were liberals, they would never talk about their 490 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: looks this way at all. Ever, there's a there's a 491 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 1: term that The New York Times says had maral Lago face, 492 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: which is like this way that they all look. But actually, 493 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: if you the ones that they list as as perpetrators 494 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: of this look, many of them look very different. Like Pandi, 495 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: Pambondi and Millennia look extremely different totally. Pam Bondi wears 496 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 1: a pants suit all the time. She doesn't wear she's dressed. 497 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 2: Right, she doesn't do the jacket dress that Milania pulls off. 498 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 2: So well, no, that's exactly right. They don't look alike. 499 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 2: They only look alike when you're a crazy person. Writing 500 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,239 Speaker 2: for The New York Times, and the advice that they 501 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 2: give to this woman is keep your hair natural or messy, 502 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 2: makes your makeup minimal and your heels low. Lady, they're 503 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 2: trying to make you look ugly. 504 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: Like they also say, shy away from red, white and blue. 505 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: Look y'all, stop letting us take pretty and patriotic from you. 506 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 2: Not a good move, so obvious, but like they just 507 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 2: keep falling for it. 508 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: H Yeah, just like they did with We talked about 509 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: that lib streamer Hassan Piker, who they were like, this 510 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: guy's good looking. It signals maga. This is a cell phone. 511 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: Do not engage in this messaging. Have your sheaf dreath, 512 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: dress with your with your guns out, and look good. 513 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:14,959 Speaker 1: If you're a little lady, go ahead and do it. 514 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 2: Do it. 515 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: Goodness gracious. 516 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us on normally. Normally airs Tuesdays and Thursdays, 517 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 2: and you can subscribe anywhere you get your podcasts. Get 518 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 2: in touch with us at normallythepod at gmail dot com. 519 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening, and when things get weird, act normally