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Speaker 1: Because it's time to flavoos who live from Tom galand

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Speaker 1: The History quiz show that gives contestants the chance to

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Speaker 1: in fifth and an Elliott Calin lookalike contests. It's Elliot Kalin.

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Speaker 1: Thank you be. I'm gonna try again next year and

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Speaker 1: of Looking like Myself and welcome everyone to the Who

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Speaker 1: Was Podcast. This show is a lot like Jeopardy, only

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Speaker 1: with surprise guests, silly games, and more ghosts in the studio.

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Speaker 1: Thank you that was one of the ghosts. Our contestants

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Speaker 1: Today's subjects are a Wreatha, Franklin, and stan Lee. But

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Speaker 1: next we have Mattie. Mattie, please tell us more about yourself.

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Speaker 1: So whoa I am, Maddie. I'm eleven and a half ish,

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