Speaker 1: So I'm hesitant to talk about this, but I'm going
Speaker 1: to because it kind of the only reason I ever
Speaker 1: talk about something is if it kind of has a
Speaker 1: greater meaning. So there's a whole world of clickbait, and
Speaker 1: I guess there's a line meaning. Sometimes you'll read something
Speaker 1: and you think you know what it is and it's
Speaker 1: not anything close to the headline. So podcasts, for example,
Speaker 1: if you're scrolling social media, you could I've never never
Speaker 1: listened to a podcast, and a lot of you think
Speaker 1: you've listened to podcasts because of the clips coming through
Speaker 1: TikTok or social media, like you're like, oh yeah, Gwyneth
Speaker 1: Paltrow was on call her Daddy and she said this,
Speaker 1: but like, that's because you saw a clip, and a
Speaker 1: lot of us think that we know what's going on
Speaker 1: because of clips that we've seen. So I bring this
Speaker 1: up because I did a TikTok about Teresa Giudice.
Speaker 2: I didn't say anything bad. I said, oh no, oh
Speaker 2: my god.
Speaker 1: I was like, please don't enter that closet, Like no,
Speaker 1: because Teresa has some issues financially that could happen to
Speaker 1: many people, and tax issues, and I literally self deprecated
Speaker 1: myself and said The only person who is a worst
Speaker 1: picker than Teresa is myself. I did a TikTok talking
Speaker 1: about for the purpose of talking to Frankly, the younger
Speaker 1: generation about how to protect themselves with prenups and use
Speaker 1: this story as a cautionary tale because it is one.
Speaker 2: She went to jail.
Speaker 1: She's a woman who's successful and was on a television show.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know any women who have gone
Speaker 1: to jail for a significant period of time. Her and
Speaker 1: Martha Stewart, Okay went to jail. I think it was
Speaker 1: the same jail. So that's scary. And I could say
Speaker 1: that could happen to anyone, but like, it couldn't happen
Speaker 1: to everyone, but it happened to her, and it was
Speaker 1: a cautionary tale. And you know, paying in cash and
Speaker 1: not knowing what's going with your husband's finances and all
Speaker 1: of these things.
Speaker 2: So she's still on television all these years later. She
Speaker 2: meets someone.
Speaker 1: I guess everyone had warned her about this guy, and
Speaker 1: I don't know this guy. I met him once and again,
Speaker 1: I didn't see the show with him. I've rolled my
Speaker 1: eyes when people have said bad things about him. Because
Speaker 1: she seems in love and she seems happy, and you
Speaker 1: never know what's going on with a person.
Speaker 2: But if they's smoke this fire, I don't know.
Speaker 1: So it comes out that they've got these this financial
Speaker 1: problem and I'm thinking, you don't get a parking ticket
Speaker 1: if you've ever been to jail, like it doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: the fifty shades of gray of financial issues, Like you
Speaker 1: don't have any financial issues if you've ever been to
Speaker 1: jail for financial issues with the government, like, you don't
Speaker 1: fuck around. So it's not saying something bad about her
Speaker 1: to hear that, to go, oh my god, wow, like
Speaker 1: things happen. I didn't blame her at all. I just
Speaker 1: said I was going to jump through the television when
Speaker 1: she didn't sign a prenup. I was talking to you, guys.
Speaker 1: I wasn't talking to her, and I'm not. It's really
Speaker 1: just like, that's a story in the news, and she's
Speaker 1: a public person, a public person on television in a
Speaker 1: reality show. Why would it be okay that Andy Cohen
Speaker 1: can ask her about it? Because he definitely would on
Speaker 1: a reunion if she was on one, or she could
Speaker 1: put her whole life out there for other women to
Speaker 1: talk about. I'm saying something that's extremely normal and in
Speaker 1: the headlines and like innocuous, like I didn't say, oh,
Speaker 1: she's an idiot or have the hell.
Speaker 2: I just said, oh my god, no, Teresa.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: So now let's keep moving on.
Speaker 1: In the clickbait discussion, so I mentioned this and Teresa's
Speaker 1: daughter Jia. Now, I said in a later TikTok, I
Speaker 1: don't know which one Gia is. I swear I remember
Speaker 1: Malania being the name of the girl that like was
Speaker 1: going to try to act or did like dance recitals
Speaker 1: or pageants or something.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: There was like a little kid stage mom Teresa moment
Speaker 1: early on, and I thought that was Mlanie.
Speaker 2: I think Blanni is the oldest one.
Speaker 1: I think she Four daughters is what I recall, and
Speaker 1: I don't know who's who, and I don't know who
Speaker 1: is in the public eye because I didn't watch the show.
Speaker 1: I literally don't know which one, but I've seen pictures
Speaker 1: of all four of them, and they're all pretty girls.
Speaker 2: They all look alike. They all look very much alike.
Speaker 1: I feel like, So anyway, one daughter has a podcast,
Speaker 1: and I guess on her first or second episode, she
Speaker 1: talked about me, and people are saying like, Wow, that's clickbait.
Speaker 1: She's using you to get people to watch your podcasts.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, right, that's what's going on. And whenever
Speaker 1: people say it's clickbait, like what is anyone doing?
Speaker 2: What are we doing? What is Teresa doing on television?
Speaker 2: She there? So no one watches.
Speaker 1: They want ratings, all of them do. That's the point.
Speaker 1: So everybody's on television. And I know because I was
Speaker 1: the one who used to demand that we get them
Speaker 1: every week, because the ratings used to be hidden from
Speaker 1: us because they didn't want us to know how valuable
Speaker 1: we were, so then they would have to pay us
Speaker 1: more or we'd want more, and that would always be
Speaker 1: a battle. I'd be like, why don't you guys tell
Speaker 1: us what the ratings are and when we do really well,
Speaker 1: give us a reward and be like yay. But it
Speaker 1: was like they didn't want us to know. That's a
Speaker 1: digress because it has nothing to do with this. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, when you're on television, you choose to be
Speaker 1: on television. You want ratings. And people used to be
Speaker 1: really competitive because Atlanta used to get the most ratings
Speaker 1: and I think Jersey was second, and then Beverly Hills
Speaker 1: shot to the top, and New York was never the
Speaker 1: highest rated except for one season.
Speaker 2: It was really close, but it was.
Speaker 1: Like a darling because it was a media darling and
Speaker 1: it just had a special niche because it's New York. Anyway,
Speaker 1: we wanted to be the highest and you were sort
Speaker 1: of competitive about it. And anybody who's on TikTok or
Speaker 1: Instagram is not doing it because it's a charity, because
Speaker 1: it's saving lives. They're doing it because they want views.
Speaker 1: So I guess Teresa went on something and was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: Bethany is you know, got millions of views using my name,
Speaker 1: which you know, get in line because everybody's doing that.
Speaker 1: Now I get millions of views for talking about Chanelle
Speaker 1: and chicken salad and like lively tune of fish.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: So to the flavor of the day was talking about
Speaker 1: Teresa with the goal of educating young people on how
Speaker 1: difficult it is to go through the process of a prenup,
Speaker 1: but that it's not for rich people and that it's
Speaker 1: completely necessary, and that not having a prenup no matter
Speaker 1: what your financial status is or who is the moneyed spouse,
Speaker 1: because you don't know what happens later, and you don't
Speaker 1: know who makes money later. You could have been a
Speaker 1: normal person married to a woman and then she got
Speaker 1: in the housewives later and she makes millions of dollars.
Speaker 2: Okay, you don't know.
Speaker 1: Anything can happen in a horse race, but not having
Speaker 1: a prenup in twenty twenty five in a marriage is
Speaker 1: like going and buying a car and just the contract
Speaker 1: is on a cocktail napkin, or you're selling your house
Speaker 1: and you just shake the hand and say, don't worry
Speaker 1: about it. I trust you, you're good for it. So
Speaker 1: I don't know Teresa. And because we happen to have
Speaker 1: been in the same franchise, it doesn't mean like we're friends.
Speaker 1: And she's in some like protected bucket where I'm not
Speaker 1: going to talk about something that could help younger people
Speaker 1: because it's not that easy.
Speaker 2: Lightning doesn't strike twice for most people.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure that the daughter's just protecting the mom,
Speaker 1: and they're also very defensive about it. But like I
Speaker 1: I know that one of the biggest things the first
Speaker 1: time was Teresa acting like everything was fine and nothing happened,
Speaker 1: like she was she kind of gased like the whole
Speaker 1: situation and would never really acknowledge what had happened. And
Speaker 1: instead she could have used her platform for financial literacy,
Speaker 1: like get educated on the topic and try to help
Speaker 1: other people. That's what happens. People do drugs, they get
Speaker 1: a duy, they go try to help other people. Like
Speaker 1: I just think that that would be a good use.
Speaker 1: And this feels wild that she would get herself into
Speaker 1: a situation, and I hope it resolves itself. But I
Speaker 1: have spoken to Teresa, and I know she's a hard
Speaker 1: work and I know she's a good loyal mom, and.
Speaker 2: That's you know it.
Speaker 1: So sometimes something affects me very deeply and it sticks
Speaker 1: more than other things. Like some things activate or heighten
Speaker 1: or trigger us individually more than other people. Obviously, one
Speaker 1: of those things for me was Sandy Hook Elementary School.
Speaker 2: I was going through a bad divorce.
Speaker 1: It was at a time in my life when I
Speaker 1: just was clinging to my daughter. I remember I moved
Speaker 1: out of the marital residence and moved into a friend's
Speaker 1: apartment uptown, and people used to say, like, you should
Speaker 1: never let them sleep with you. They shouldn't sleep with you,
Speaker 1: the kids shouldn't sleep with you, and I was so
Speaker 1: clinging and needy that my daughter would sleep with me
Speaker 1: every single night, and it was like when they're little,
Speaker 1: they're running around, you can't like they're like hurting cats.
Speaker 1: And it was the one time because I only had
Speaker 1: her half the time that I could like really have
Speaker 1: her all to myself. And there were some other circumstances
Speaker 1: going on in the shared apartment where if I was
Speaker 1: in there, she was distracted and enticed to go in
Speaker 1: another room, and I felt like I was like breathless
Speaker 1: always trying to be with her, and so I would
Speaker 1: sleep in bed with her all night and it was
Speaker 1: the best feeling because she's sleeping, so just snuggling, and
Speaker 1: even though it's terrible when they're sick, like when they're sick,
Speaker 1: like they're just like they need you and they're on
Speaker 1: top of you, and it's like you cherish that too,
Speaker 1: not that you want them ever to be sick, but
Speaker 1: like you just get those days where it's like they're
Speaker 1: yours to yourself. It's why people love breastfeeding. It's why
Speaker 1: some men get a little threatened by breastfeeding or jealous
Speaker 1: or wanting the bottle because you know it doesn't involve
Speaker 1: them and I think that does happen. So Sandy Hook
Speaker 1: Elementary School happened during that time, and I just I
Speaker 1: don't even want to discuss what it was if you
Speaker 1: don't remember, but it was a tragic event in Connecticut,
Speaker 1: and I was fixated and obsessed and I just wanted
Speaker 1: my daughter in my arms and that submarine. For some reason,
Speaker 1: I was completely obsessed with and fixated on Casey Anthony.
Speaker 1: I was fixated on later, and some people have recently
Speaker 1: been fixated on it because she was on TikTok acting
Speaker 1: like nothing ever happened, Like she came on there, like
Speaker 1: she was just like, Hey, if you don't know me,
Speaker 1: I'm Casey Anthony.
Speaker 2: We're like immediately now we remember.
Speaker 1: And there's someone that I know whose parent has cancer
Speaker 1: and it's not going that great. And he was saying
Speaker 1: that he was exposed to radiation during the war and
Speaker 1: different things like that. You know, my father passed away
Speaker 1: from leukemia, and he always believed that it came through
Speaker 1: the skin cancer that he had in his lip, because
Speaker 1: he always had because he had like a bigger lip
Speaker 1: on the bottom and it like stuck out and from
Speaker 1: being in the sun all those years, his lip every
Speaker 1: day in the morning when he went out to train
Speaker 1: horses would be exposed to the sun and he got
Speaker 1: skin cancer. And he's always was always convinced that that
Speaker 1: was how he got cancer. Again, I don't know enough
Speaker 1: about it this, so please don't quote me, or you
Speaker 1: can correct me.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: But nevertheless, even if there is no reason, it's just
Speaker 1: a terrible luck of the draw. It's made me get
Speaker 1: inspired to dump any toxic materials. I said to my staff,
Speaker 1: like dump all toxic cleaning supplies, candles, things like that,
Speaker 1: like pans. I'm trying to get my shit together and
Speaker 1: like really think of that, to remove as much as
Speaker 1: possible toxic ingredients from the home, to be better about
Speaker 1: washing vegetables, to be doing organic more, like to think
Speaker 1: about my next step will be the products I talk
Speaker 1: about and my daughter. I'm not going to get fixated
Speaker 1: and fastidious. And I also don't like to dump obsession
Speaker 1: on my kid with like food or things like that,
Speaker 1: or organizing or any of my stuff. So I'm trying
Speaker 1: to be mindful. But if I at least start in
Speaker 1: the home where what I have in the home and
Speaker 1: then just talk to her about it. They're so educated
Speaker 1: these kids, they learn more than we do in many
Speaker 1: ways about everything. So she'll no and no time anyway
Speaker 1: about being more green and caring about the environment and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. But anyway, I'm just going to try
Speaker 1: to do my part, so maybe we all will. I
Speaker 1: know it can be expensive, but like buy less, but
Speaker 1: quality quality versus quantity. So I would say try to
Speaker 1: let's focus on non toxic ingredients and not to become obsessive.
Speaker 1: And people roll their eyes, and you know, organic food
Speaker 1: is more expensive, but like do our best and you
Speaker 1: can be educated on what you should buy that's organic
Speaker 1: if you can't afford everything. So I mean, like I know,
Speaker 1: spinach and strawberries are very porous, so it's more important
Speaker 1: to buy them in organic than it is like a
Speaker 1: banana or an avocado or an orange or something like that.
Speaker 2: Just food for thought.