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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of I Saw What

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Speaker 1: You Did. My name is Millie to Cherco.

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Speaker 2: I'm Danielle Henderson and we're.

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Speaker 1: Doing a little film podcast here. PayPal, strap the fuck in,

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Speaker 1: actually do strap the fucking This week is gonna be

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Speaker 1: a wild one.

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Speaker 2: This is quite the double feature.

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Speaker 3: Quite the double feature this week, and it kind of

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Speaker 3: it kind of nicely compliments something that I wanted to

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Speaker 3: read at the top of the episode, because we got

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Speaker 3: an email from a listener that we usually read during

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Speaker 3: our bonus episodes, but some we will occasionally bring them

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Speaker 3: to the to the main feed, and this one in

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Speaker 3: particular just struck me because it brings to light something

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Speaker 3: that I've noticed about us as well.

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Speaker 2: So it's an email from Erin. Aaron uses she her.

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Speaker 3: Pronouns, and Erin says, Hey, movie people love you so much.

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Speaker 3: Your friendship is inspiring and brings endless topics of conversation

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Speaker 3: to me and my friends. Just putting my toddler down

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Speaker 3: for bed and thinking about your recent recommendations that I

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Speaker 3: have in my list currently The Elephant Man, The Exorcist,

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Speaker 3: I Can Make You Love Me, which is one of

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Speaker 3: her own movies that she added in The Shining and

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Speaker 3: Doctor Sleep, Kingsman, One Hour Photo, The Machinists, The Outfit, Hereditary,

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Speaker 3: Midsummer Truly, planning to watch Slash rewatch all of these,

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Speaker 3: but any rex for a happy, chill summer day, or

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Speaker 3: just an in the background flick with a two year old.

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Speaker 3: I'm a school psychologist, so I have summers off and

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Speaker 3: I'm sometimes looking for something a little more upbeat haha,

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Speaker 3: lots of love erin. So I have noticed this as well,

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Speaker 3: that we tend towards the dark. We tend towards the darkness.

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Speaker 1: You definitely do. This is like all your movies. I

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Speaker 1: think The Exorcism is mine, but this is this is

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Speaker 1: straight out of the Daniel Henderson playbook.

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Speaker 2: I like a dark fucking movie.

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Speaker 1: I really do. Same, I really do.

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Speaker 3: And so I kind of feel bad because I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 3: we don't have any recommendations that you could put on

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Speaker 2: Two year old.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, you know how parents are always

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you follow any parents on Instagram,

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Speaker 3: and they're always posting like core memory where they're like

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Speaker 3: guessing that they're giving their kid a good memory, but

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Speaker 3: it remains to be seen. So it's basically just projecting

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Speaker 3: like I'm giving my kid a good time. See, you

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Speaker 3: can have core memories that are pretty dark too. I

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Speaker 3: gotta say, I think this is where most this list

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Speaker 3: comes from for me, is I spent a lot of

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Speaker 3: my childhood watching very dark fucking movies with my grandmother.

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Speaker 2: So core memory.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and also too. I actually thinking about this

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Speaker 1: the other day about I don't know. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what triggered it. I don't know if it's when we

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Speaker 1: got that email saying that we were grumps or I

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Speaker 1: just was sort of looking at my watch list and

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Speaker 1: going like what is wrong with me? But I've talked

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Speaker 1: because I feel like maybe it's like some weird goth

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Speaker 1: I mean, sometimes we watch things that it gives us nightmares,

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Speaker 1: even if we're like seasoned weirdo dark movie professionals. But

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know why I like to

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Speaker 2: Right, And I think and I don't shy away from

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Speaker 2: the happy films. I just think the darker movies.

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Speaker 3: I like watching things that explain humanity or kind of

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Speaker 3: that's why I'm kind of leaning towards the dark movies.

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Speaker 3: But it's it just struck me as totally hilarious because

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Speaker 2: I don't know. There's some dog cartoon.

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Speaker 1: Bluey pop Paw Patrol, Bluey. Oh yeah, put Daniel Tiger,

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Speaker 3: That's as dark, that's as like as light as I

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Speaker 3: about like incest or fucking like Murder or something like that.

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Speaker 3: Even eighties kids movies didn't care about kids so.

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Speaker 1: Well, right, and then I'll be thinking about like movies

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Speaker 1: but that movie is fucked up moments like there's somebody

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Speaker 1: watching like fucking Sweet Home, Alabama or something, there's like,

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Speaker 3: I find it funny that that is something that I'm

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Speaker 3: clearly lacking in my film watching tendencies is how to

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Speaker 3: recommend a light film. But I also know that because

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Speaker 3: it's summer, we actually have quite a few lighter and

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Speaker 3: funnier than we're used to giving you films coming up.

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Speaker 2: So they're not two year old. Nothing is two year

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Speaker 2: old appropriate that we do, but.

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Speaker 3: They're definitely we're taking a turn for summer folks, Like

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Speaker 3: we are definitely in our sunshine period and going to

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Speaker 3: bring you a lot of fun this summer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to think of, like, what is the

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Speaker 1: lightest movie that I enjoy? I mean, maybe The Princess Bride.

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Speaker 1: That movie is really warm hearted and beautiful, but then

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Speaker 1: there's also the Giant Rats and the falling into the

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Speaker 2: There andre the Giant on fire.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, there's elements to it. I mean, same thing

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Speaker 2: Too, So yeah, it is. It is.

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Speaker 3: It's not easy to pick a pure lighthearted film, so

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Speaker 3: I apologize that we can't do that for you, Erin,

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Speaker 3: or lighter, just because we're gonna have lighter films this summer.

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Speaker 2: So for your benefit, you'll be having a lot of fun.

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Speaker 3: Your child will still be in the Bluey Daniel Tiger territory.

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Speaker 3: But I also it just made me laugh thinking about

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Speaker 3: we've been friends across many lifetimes. We will be friends

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Speaker 3: across many lifetimes. If we were alive during the Victorian era,

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Speaker 1: What's the is it ethel? What's the drug that they

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Speaker 3: I'm just hoping their spirits rise in any way and

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Speaker 3: then they just don't. Like I just feel like that's

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Speaker 2: So it made me laugh. But I love that you're

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Speaker 2: building this list Erin.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry that you could probably only watch it in

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Speaker 3: for even trying to find the time or being able

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Speaker 3: to find the time to watch any movie. So we'll probably,

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Speaker 3: we promise it, we'll add some lighter ones to your

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Speaker 3: in particular, it will be super fun. But yeah, I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't. I'm like looking at her list going

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Speaker 1: good luck with a double feature of one hour photo

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Speaker 1: and the machinist like godspeed salute emoji to you. I like,

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Speaker 2: Hereditary in midsummer for a kind of a new parent

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Speaker 1: Like, you're a mom, huh. I don't know if people

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Speaker 1: want to be watching any of these Ariostra movies at all.

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Speaker 3: Good look, Oh but I love I just love that

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Speaker 3: you wrote in And I promise we'll put a little

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Speaker 3: couple of lighter movies on your list for you.

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Speaker 2: So thank you. Eric.

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Speaker 1: Well, we have quite a theme this week. You came

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Speaker 3: Our theme this week is now seating group three, and

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Speaker 3: we decided to do some movies about traveling, and wow,

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Speaker 1: This is easily the most demonic double feature we've ever done.

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Speaker 1: Like it's just so it's so like the darkest movie

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Speaker 1: I just think we both were just thinking, like, let's

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I'm kind of getting back out into the

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Speaker 3: a mask at an airport, But you know, my life

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Speaker 3: I just every time I think about traveling and movies

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, I will say this, like I feel

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Speaker 1: it paints a pretty picture of the place that it's in,

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Speaker 1: and we will definitely get into that. However, your film

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Speaker 1: I don't know what things were like in the late

436
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: seventies in terms of this, because I wasn't alive and

437
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: I was certainly not watching film or ingesting culture. But

438
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: it was that thing of like this was obviously a

439
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: choice that was made in that era that looks fucking

440
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: insane now. Like you're just like, why is this movie

441
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: so cartoonishly racist in this way. I know that Billy

442
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: Hayes was disappointed by that when the film came out,

443
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: and I know that Oliver Stone has actually apologized for it,

444
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 1: like later that he was disappointed in himself that he

445
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 1: kind of had given this kind of one note read

446
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 1: on all these Turkish people. So, but that is a

447
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: huge conversation about the film that people have. It's just

448
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 1: there's just really not a positive Turkish character in this

449
00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: film at all, Right, But there's also other things about

450
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: the film that you know didn't happen according to Billy Hayes,

451
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: Like he said that he did not experience any rapes

452
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: or sexual violence when he was in the in the jail,

453
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: and you know, obviously that happens quite a bit in

454
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 1: the film. So there's a little you know, he said that,

455
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: you know, there was no girlfriend with him when he

456
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: got arrested. So there's a lot of you know, a

457
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: lot of differences artistic license, for sure. So let me

458
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 1: just do a one sentence synopsis really quick. Midnight Express

459
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: is about a young man who is sent to jail

460
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 1: in Turkey after trying to smuggle hash and has a

461
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 1: terrifying experience. That is the general gist of the film.

462
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: So just to kind of go over a little bit

463
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:49,239
Speaker 1: of the plot. So right at the beginning, there's this

464
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: college kid, white college kid named Billy Hayes. He's in

465
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 1: the airport in Turkey. He's with his white girlfriend, you know,

466
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: like I said, younger, and the beginning of the film

467
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: is him. I did not know this when I first

468
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 1: watched it, but I was like, why is this guy

469
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:13,959
Speaker 1: putting chocolate bars in tinfoil and taping it to his chest? Okay,

470
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: I did not know that it was hash until they

471
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 1: told me it was hash. But when you first watched

472
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: the film and you don't know anything about the story

473
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: or like that looks like chocolate, Yeah, you know, I

474
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: don't know why he's taping it to his chest. But

475
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: as I as I found out a few minutes later,

476
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:37,959
Speaker 1: it's actually two kilos of hash. And this kid, Billy Hayes,

477
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: is sweating walking.

478
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 3: There's a part where he goes to the bathroom and

479
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 3: he fills an airport sink with water and splashes his

480
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 3: face because he's like so hot, so hot, just sweating

481
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 3: it out so hard. I would rather get caught smuggling

482
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 3: hash than fill a sink of air in an airport

483
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 3: bathroom full of water and put that water on my face.

484
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,719
Speaker 1: I was like, he's he's wearing He's not wearing. His

485
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: character is not wearing a wig. The actor is certainly

486
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: wearing a bad wig. And I'm like, imagine being Brad

487
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: Davis hatting the sweat underneath that bad wig. Ooh, good lord.

488
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: But he's like pouring down sweat. Heartbeat sound is pumping,

489
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: like he's like, you know, trying to do the thing.

490
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: He's trying to get away with the task.

491
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 2: And it's a lot of hash.

492
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 3: Like if he had just had a couple of bricks,

493
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 3: he probably would have gotten away with it.

494
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a lot of sactly, Yeah, and just

495
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: and honestly, just when you think that he's a breeze

496
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: to fly, he gets stopped and they find it underneath

497
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: his clothes. One thing I will say about this movie

498
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: that I think is really interesting is that there are

499
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: little to no subtitles in the film. Wishes interesting. I

500
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: think that's an interesting move.

501
00:28:53,440 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 3: It kind of compliments the alienation and mistrust that Oliver

502
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 3: Stone and Alan Parker were kind of cultivating about the

503
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 3: Turkish system because you don't know what they're saying, so

504
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 3: you're kind of like left to look at their movements

505
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 3: and how emphatically they're speaking and kind of decide like

506
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 3: are they saying something good or bad? Are they being

507
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,239
Speaker 3: positive about this guy or are they trying to throw

508
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 3: him away for life? Like you're just really left in

509
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 3: an era of an area of kind of uncertainty, which

510
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 3: I'm assuming was done to also put you in the

511
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 3: place of the character of Billy, which is like he

512
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 3: didn't know what was going on, he didn't speak the language,

513
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 3: and was ultimately his whole his fate was left to

514
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 3: a system that he didn't understand in a language that

515
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 3: he didn't understand.

516
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 2: So I think that kind of emphasized it for the viewer.

517
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it kind of puts you in that position. So

518
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: you're in the Billy position of being in a foreign

519
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: country and not speaking a language and being in trouble. Right, So,

520
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: after Billy gets busted, he almost immediately is approached by

521
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: an American who is not Jerry Reid by the way,

522
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: it is the actor Bo Hopkins. And it's funny because

523
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,479
Speaker 1: I have confused those two people for ever.

524
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, I have confused Midnight Express at Midnight Run

525
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 3: for most of my childhood, most of my.

526
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, what's the other midnight movie that no am

527
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: I thinking of? I'm thinking of Starlight Express, a very.

528
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 4: Different movie, Permanent Midnight Midnight Run, Midnight Express, Starline Express, Jesus,

529
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 4: but I confuse Jerry Reid and Bo Hopkins a lot.

530
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: But you know he so Bo Hopkins character shows up

531
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: and it's kind of like, hey, you know, you're in

532
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: trouble here, Like you got to tell us, like who

533
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,719
Speaker 1: you got the drugs from, And so Billy sort of

534
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: points them into the direction of this cab driver who

535
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: gave him the drugs, and they go down to the

536
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: market where this you know, cab driver's hanging out. But

537
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: then Billy kind of pulls this move where he kind

538
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: of runs away, right, And I guess it's because he

539
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: feels like he's kind of screwed either way, Like even

540
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: if he points out who gave him the drugs, like,

541
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: they're still gonna take him to jail. So he just

542
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: has this moment where he's like, well, I'm just gonna

543
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: run away and they have to chase him, and of course,

544
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: you know, he gets caught and there are times in

545
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: this movie where I, yeah, this is like a white

546
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: kid from America who is I don't know, maybe because

547
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: he has a certain amount of privilege. You find out

548
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: later his father is like a representative, like like from

549
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: the US government. So it's kind of like, Okay, here's

550
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: a kid who probably I don't know, has been a

551
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: trouble his whole life, and now he's getting busted.

552
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 3: Well. It's also it also made me think of, you know,

553
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 3: there was a point where, you know, and I'm not

554
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 3: sure of it it is due to his father or not,

555
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 3: but there's a point in the movie where you almost

556
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 3: forget his crime because they're so focused on how he's

557
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 3: being treated in this prison and his experiences in the

558
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 3: prison that you kind of forget that he actually did

559
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 3: commit a crime. And I'm not sure that that, you know,

560
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 3: I want to come down on one side or the

561
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 3: other about what's warranted or what's due. But it made

562
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 3: me think of that teenager in nineteen ninety four, Michael

563
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 3: Fay in Singapore who committed vandalism and they wanted to

564
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 3: cane him and everyone was like, no, you can't cane him,

565
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 3: and I'm like, dude, any country I visit, I am

566
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 3: well aware to not fuck up because I either don't

567
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 3: know their laws and I'm afraid, or I do know

568
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 3: their laws and I'm afraid. And if you go to

569
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 3: a place where you're fucking they have a vandalism act

570
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 3: that you could get in trouble for, you could be

571
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 3: made an example of that's a crime. I'm sorry, Like

572
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 3: I know that there's just these instances where a lot

573
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 3: this comes up quite often politically and legally, where it's like, well,

574
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 3: he might have committed a crime in your country, but

575
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 3: he's from our country, and I'm like, yeah, vandalism is

576
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 3: a fucking crime here too, Like what do you want? Like,

577
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 3: there's a certain amount of hubris that a lot of

578
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 3: people carry forward into the world, and it takes an

579
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 3: act like this to stop them in their tracks and

580
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 3: make them think maybe about their actions. Which again I'm

581
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 3: sounding like a total fucking boomer, which I hate, But

582
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 3: it's just interesting to me that in this film they

583
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 3: very quickly help you to forget the crime and just

584
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 3: focus on the experience, which is I think what a

585
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 3: lot of people want to want you to do when

586
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,479
Speaker 3: white people are going abroad and committing sins.

587
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's yeah, it's American hubris though. That's the

588
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: thing is that it's like it's like going to a

589
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: forward country and feeling like you you know, you're the

590
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: king colonizer of the world, so you're able to kind

591
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: of go and do as you please, and there's an

592
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: you know, any consequences for shit that you pull, And

593
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: I'm just like, yeah, I don't believe that. There's a

594
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 1: lot of people that do.

595
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 4: Though.

596
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: There's Americans that go bron They just pull fucking tricks,

597
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: and then weirdly enough, they have an infrastructure in America

598
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: where they can get their dad to come bail them

599
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: out or try to bail them out, and they can

600
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: get lawyers and that kind of stuff, which is kind

601
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: of what happens in Minna Express because essentially, you know,

602
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: Billy goes to jail and so he's now in the

603
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: prison system there, and you know, the first night, basically

604
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: he he wants a blanket, they don't give him one.

605
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: One of the other prisoners tells him to go get

606
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: a blanket from another cell, and then you know, he

607
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: gets beaten for it eventually in the next day, and

608
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: then quickly sort of starts, you know, moving into the

609
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: social scene of the jail, which includes Randy Quaid, the

610
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: actor Randy Quaid, who is a maniac or as my

611
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 1: as my mother would say, maniac of the highest order.

612
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: Like he like I was like, is he like this

613
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 1: in every film?

614
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 2: Like he just was a.

615
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: Maniac in every film?

616
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 2: And I will type cast for sure.

617
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: So here's a He's a guy that stole two candlesticks

618
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 1: from a mosque and now is in this prison. There's

619
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: another guy that he hangs out with, who I think

620
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: is called Eric the Swede. I don't know if that's

621
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 1: an official name, but he's a Swedish guy named Eric

622
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: drug drug smuggler. And then there's a man named Max,

623
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: an older gentleman played by the great John Hurt. We

624
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: just talked about him and the Elephant Man. He's the

625
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: guy that's been in the jail the longest, you know

626
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: that character and like every jail film, right, there's this

627
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 1: guy that's been there forever, and he has a cat.

628
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 1: He somehow gets drugs. He's also an ivy drug user.

629
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: So he's just like the guy that's really like you know,

630
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: in the jail has figured out how to make it

631
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: work for him and he's kind of the cautionary tale

632
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: I think of for certainly for Billy at this point. Right,

633
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: So Billy's dad, like I said, shows up American guy.

634
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 1: They actually, I have to say this before I continue.

635
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: They did amazing father son casting in this film. They

636
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: look exactly the same that the son. I was like,

637
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 1: very rarely do you see like two non related actors

638
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: look like each other when they're playing family members. I mean,

639
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: they nailed it for this. But the dad comes, he's like, look,

640
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: I got lawyers like we're gonna hook you up. Blah

641
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. You're not gonna be in jail.

642
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: And unfortunately, though, Billy does go to jail and he

643
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 1: gets a four year jail sentence. Now, the reason why

644
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: he gets four years is because the judge apparently likes him,

645
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: takes a shine to him. But also he is he's

646
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: basically serving for a lesser charge, which is that he's

647
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: gonna get possession instead of smuggling. Smuggling carries a much

648
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: higher punishment than simple possession, and so they managed to

649
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: get him on the possession charge. So he's only doing

650
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: four years, but he's already freaked out because four years

651
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: is a long time for him, right. So in the jail,

652
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: he's doing his time, he's hanging out with his little

653
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 1: squad of Eric the Sweet and Randy Quaid's character and Max,

654
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: and you know there, Max basically is telling Billy like,

655
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: you're never gonna get out of here. Everybody's corrupt, everybody

656
00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: is in on the take. The only way you could

657
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: really escape your scenario is by taking the Midnight Express,

658
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 1: which is essentially a term for breaking out of jail. Right.

659
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: So he's kind of flirting with this idea and meanwhile

660
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: suffering from some really bad scenarios in the jail. Like

661
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: I said, a lot of pretty nasty stereotypes amongst like

662
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 1: the Turkish prisoners and the guards and stuff. There's this

663
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: there's a there's a prisoner named Rifky who's kind of like,

664
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: I don't know, the hall monitor, like the he's kind

665
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 1: of exchanging things in order to get better treatment from

666
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: the guards. And he kind of is like the tattletale

667
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: that everybody hates. And there's like a lot of drama

668
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: with him. And so what ends up happening is that

669
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: Billy's experiencing this horrible situation in jail. Then, as it

670
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 1: turns out, the high court has decided to actually go

671
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: back and charge him with the smuggling charge. When he

672
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: has like fifty three days left in his sentence, they decide, actually,

673
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna stay in jail for the next thirty years plus.

674
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: So that sends Billy into the stratosphere in terms of

675
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: what he's willing to do to survive, like what he's

676
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: going to do with his time there, you know, So

677
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: it becomes kind of this whole that's when everything gets

678
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: kicked up a notch in terms of the violence, in

679
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: terms of sort of like what happens next. I kind

680
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: of don't want to give it away, obviously, because I

681
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: feel like there's a lot of things that this movie

682
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 1: is known for, like kind of things that have played

683
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: out in other films that I feel like if I

684
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: gave it away, would kind of give away the rest

685
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: of the movie. But if it's the kind of movie,

686
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: if you watch it, you'll be like, oh, I remember

687
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: somebody parodied that in a movie, or somebody took borrowed

688
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: this scene from a movie, so you will see a

689
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: lot of echoes in other films from in that express

690
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, if this movie is kind of complicated,

691
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: I mean obviously, I think that there there's a lot

692
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: of effective things happening, Like, you really do feel bleak

693
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: when you watch this film, Like it does its job,

694
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: it's promising on you know that you will feel like shit,

695
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: watch this movie. It is bleak. It is violent. You know,

696
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: there are moments where you're like terrified for someone, But

697
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: then there's other things happening too, where was like, oh, like,

698
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: how do I feel about kind of this portrayal of

699
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: the Turkish people in this film? How do I feel

700
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: about the idea that this was a college kid that

701
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: was stupid and got in trouble and then he's you know,

702
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: do I feel good about the consequences for him? I

703
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: don't know. So it's it's one of those films. It's

704
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: a complicated film that takes place in a foreign country

705
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: and we'll make you think a couple of things the

706
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: next time you travel.

707
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, it is. It is the dark

708
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 2: side of travel travel.

709
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 3: But as long as you're not trying to scrugg you know,

710
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 3: as long as you're not trying to smuggle hash or drugs,

711
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 3: you'll probably be okay. But it is definitely the dark

712
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 3: side of traveling in terms of like.

713
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 2: What could happen if you fuck up in another country?

714
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 3: And this is again a movie that I saw probably

715
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 3: when I was way too young, and so it was

716
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 3: always present of mind for me that like, if I

717
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 3: ever travel in my life, I should be on my

718
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 3: best behavior. Not that I was ever prone to smuggling drugs,

719
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 3: but it was just, you know, seeing movies like this

720
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 3: kind of reinforced my own actions when I started.

721
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: Traveling, traveling into the world. Yeah, and there is a

722
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 1: moment too where when the father shows up and kind

723
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: OF's like, son, what have you done? Like why why

724
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: did you do this? And Billy's like, for money. He

725
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 1: wanted to take the hash, smuggle it back to America

726
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: and make money off of it. So that's like a

727
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 1: whole other component to think about is just sort of like, Okay, well,

728
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: there's just a lot of big topics in the film obviously,

729
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,479
Speaker 1: but I think I think it's a movie that people

730
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: should see if they've been curious about it, if they've

731
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: heard about it. I mean, like I said, there's a

732
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: lot of references to it in other films. There's like

733
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,439
Speaker 1: a reference to this film in The Cable Guy with

734
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: Jim Carrey because this scene that it parodies in Midnight

735
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 1: Express is bleak bleak bleak. Okay, like makes you feel

736
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: like shit, I.

737
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 3: Didn't seen The Cable Guy in ages, so I don't

738
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 3: even remember what you're talking about.

739
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. All I'm saying is if you haven't, if you

740
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 1: if you've given The Cable Guy a spin recently and

741
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: you haven't seen in that express, I just just watch it.

742
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: Just watch it to connect the dots, because I was like,

743
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 1: it's a very funny scene in Cable Guy, but there's

744
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: the scene that it references, So I feel like.

745
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 2: Any reference with this movie is fucked up.

746
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's it's dark comedy for sure. But yeah,

747
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: and look now, after we've gone through the muck the darkness,

748
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: we have found the light at the end, haven't we.

749
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 3: With a little bit, a little bit of my movie

750
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 3: for our theme now, Seeding Group three was released in

751
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 3: two thousand and one. It was written by Sabrina Dewan

752
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,240
Speaker 3: and directed by mir And Nair.

753
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 2: And my movie is Monsoon Wedding.

754
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 3: I don't think you're ready for marriage.

755
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 2: I just want to settle down.

756
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 5: So what do you do?

757
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 2: Get married to?

758
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: Some guys selected by mommy did very on it for

759
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks.

760
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, so my movie is definitely there is a vein

761
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 3: of darkness in my movie, but for the most part,

762
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 3: it is a very lighthearted, funny film. And I first

763
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 3: want to start by getting into who mir Naiir is

764
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 3: in case you're not sure never heard her name, which

765
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 3: I find impossible, But a lot of people will pay

766
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 3: attention to directors and writers the way I do. So

767
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 3: it's fine, it's fine, Mir Naiir wrote, you might have.

768
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 3: When she first came into my line of view as

769
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 3: a director, I was for a movie called Mississithi Masala

770
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 3: and that movie is on the Criterion Channel right now

771
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 3: at the times this.

772
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 2: Recording, it's on the Criterion Channel.

773
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 3: And she also went on to direct films like The Namesake,

774
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 3: which is based on a book by you Billahirie Hysterical

775
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 3: Blindness Vanity Fair, which is not the magazine but the

776
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 3: William Makepeace Thackeray novel. And she's fascinating to me, She's

777
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 3: so fascinating. She was born and raised in India, and

778
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 3: she got a full scholarship to both Cambridge University and Harvard,

779
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 3: and she chose Harvard, where she became very interested in

780
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 3: theater and acting. But she eventually landed on directing because

781
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 3: in an interview that I read with her, she said

782
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 3: that it was because it was collaborative. So she kind

783
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 3: of started as a documentarian, and her focus in her

784
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 3: filmmaking career has usually been on Indian culture, and it

785
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 3: definitely was present when she was starting as a documentarian,

786
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 3: Like in her first documentary, she was roaming the streets

787
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 3: of Old Delai and she was having conversations with people,

788
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 3: and you can see her kind of documentary, solid filmmaking

789
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 3: even in her feature films, including this one, including Monsoon Wedding,

790
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 3: there are scenes where she's, you know, got the camera

791
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 3: kind of angled up towards the sky as she's in

792
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,720
Speaker 3: a car and you can see the wires and the people,

793
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 3: and just the way that she intercuts her scenes with

794
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 3: scenes of actual people.

795
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 2: In Monsoon Wedding, it.

796
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 3: Feels very a very documentarian thing to do because she

797
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 3: wants you to focus on not just the family that

798
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 3: she's portraying, but the system and the world that they're in.

799
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,919
Speaker 3: And she also had a documentary of Her last documentary

800
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 3: was about amniosyentesis and how it was used to determine

801
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 3: the sex of different fetuses because she wanted to kind

802
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 3: of expose the way that a lot of people in

803
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 3: India were aboarding female fetuses and favoring their male offspring.

804
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 3: So she's definitely an activist in a certain way, like

805
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 3: her art has kind of an activist bent as well.

806
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 3: And she's set of a filmmaking lab in Uganda called

807
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,919
Speaker 3: Mesia and it helps train young directors and it's kind

808
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 3: of focused on encouraging people to tell their stories. So

809
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 3: I think that the reason I mentioned all this is

810
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 3: that her life is very it seems very finely tuned

811
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 3: and balanced towards supporting who she is as a person overall.

812
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 2: So she's an activist.

813
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 3: She's focused on certain cultural aspects of things that bother

814
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 3: her that she wants to shine a light on. She

815
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 3: does it in her future films, she does it in

816
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 3: her documentaries, and a lot of her short and her

817
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 3: short films and documentary documentaries at the time of this

818
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 3: recording are on the Criterion channel along with this movie

819
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 3: Is Not but along with a lot of interviews and

820
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 3: clips of her talking about some of her own favorite

821
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 3: films and movies that inspire her. So, again keeping with

822
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 3: the dark theme, I was watching a lot of those clips,

823
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 3: and she was discussing one of my favorite films, which

824
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 3: is so bleak that I don't think I can ever

825
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 3: bring it to the pod. But she was talking about

826
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 3: Lars varn Truer's Breaking the Waves. And then I started

827
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 3: watching kind of all these clips of her talking about

828
00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 3: these movies, and then I started clicking on the Critera

829
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 3: channel and I end up watching Mysterious Skin again. They

830
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 3: had again last month. I think they're still up on

831
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 3: Criterion channel. They had three Gregor Rocky films that they

832
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 3: were focusing on, like the Doom Generation. There are movies

833
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 3: that I just haven't seen in a while.

834
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 2: So it just went from you know, natural progression from

835
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 2: mir and Niyar to Breaking the Waves to Mysterious Skin.

836
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 2: I just wanted to freak myself right out that day,

837
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 2: so that's what I watched.

838
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: You like to make fun of me for going on

839
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: rabbit holes, but look at these rabbit holes. Oh yeah,

840
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: rabbit holes.

841
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 2: I will jump into the darkest holes to the center

842
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 2: of the damn earth. I'm in that magma, I'm in

843
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 2: that crust. I'm in there. I know, we know, And

844
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 2: she's just just awesome.

845
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: She's awesome.

846
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 3: And I also get very excited when like directors that

847
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 3: I like or admire also like darkness.

848
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 2: I just love it. I'm like, oh, mar and Aire lives.

849
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 3: Breaking the Waves great. But she's she's fantastic, She's really fascinating.

850
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 3: She's she's a professor at Columbia University currently. The woman

851
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 3: who wrote this movie, Sabrina Dowan, is also a professor,

852
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,760
Speaker 3: but she teaches at the Tisch School in New York City.

853
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 3: And Sabrina was a student when she wrote this movie.

854
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 3: The first draft of this movie she wrote while she

855
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 3: was still in school in one week and she I

856
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 3: think I've had one source, but I didn't.

857
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 2: I couldn't confirm it.

858
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 3: So I don't know it's true or not that she

859
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 3: was a student of Mira Naiir, but she definitely was

860
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 3: an assistant. She worked with Mira na year after she graduated,

861
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 3: and she worked with her at Columbia and just developed

862
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 3: a working relationship with her after you know, she graduated school.

863
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 3: But she graduated from Columbia, so it's not it's not

864
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 3: impossible that she was also a student of Miraa na years.

865
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 3: And she works very heavily in Bollywood and she's still,

866
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 3: you know, very active writer. I and Monsoon Wedding was

867
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 3: eventually turned into a musical, which is really fun. I

868
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 3: can't I didn't see it, but I can imagine it

869
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 3: was a lot of fun fun. And this is just

870
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 3: one of those movies that, like, from the minute I

871
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 3: saw it, from the first time I saw it, it

872
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 3: just really resonated with me and showed me something so

873
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 3: beautiful and wonderful and wild, and it just stuck with me.

874
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 3: The visuals of this movie, but the story of this

875
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 3: film also really stuck with me. So that's Mira Nair.

876
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 3: I think she's fucking miraculous and cool. Uh And I

877
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:27,720
Speaker 3: would love to have her on the pod quite frankly,

878
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 3: but I'm sure she's too busy and.

879
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: Too Yeah, she's too busy. Yeah, being choosing between Oxford

880
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 1: did you say Oxford? And Harvard teaching in Columbia, It's

881
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: like she's just doing the uh, the tour of all

882
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: the greatest schools in the in the world.

883
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 2: She also like turns down a lot of directing jobs

884
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 2: to work on things that are close to her heart.

885
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 2: So she turned down one of the Harry Potter movies

886
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 2: because she wanted to make the namesake. And I'm like,

887
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 2: that's just fucking cool.

888
00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: Love it.

889
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 2: It's fucking cool. So's she's it's busy being the best.

890
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 3: But if she ever wants to get on the pod,

891
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 3: I think we should try to have her on the pod. Yeah,

892
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 3: but yeah, this movie is just fantastic, And I'll just

893
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 3: give you a one sentenced synopsis because it is a big,

894
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 3: sprawling film with a lot of moving parts. So my

895
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 3: one sentence synopsis is. An impending wedding brings family members

896
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 3: from all over the globe together in New Delhi, where

897
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 3: secrets are revealed, costs rise, hilarity ensues, and chaos rains.

898
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 5: Like chaos rains, it is a very chaos rains.

899
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: But what's wild too.

900
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 3: This is a movie about our story about an arranged marriage.

901
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 3: So we open on what is the engagement day, and

902
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 3: this is basically going to be a four day affair.

903
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 3: The movie stretches over the course of four days, starting

904
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 3: with the engagement and ending with the wedding.

905
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 2: So the main character.

906
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 3: There are a lot of primary characters in this film,

907
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 3: but we open with Lalite and Pima Verma, who are

908
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 3: the mom and dad of the daughter who.

909
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 2: Is the bride.

910
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 3: So Lalite is he's just again opens with like the

911
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 3: funniest see and he's just really pressed about this marigold gate,

912
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 3: and everyone is like running around the house like he's

913
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 3: gonna a fucking heart attack.

914
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 2: If he doesn't calm down like this.

915
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 3: This wedding is already stressing him the fuck out. And

916
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 3: I also looked it up because I was curious, there's

917
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 3: characters in the film that marigolds are very present in

918
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 3: the film, and they're they're present at a lot of

919
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 3: weddings and Indian culture, and I looked it up, and

920
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 3: it's because the marigold kind of symbolizes brightness and positive energy,

921
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 3: so it's sort of representative of the sun, and it's

922
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 3: also associated with Lord Vishnu and God is Slakshmi, which

923
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 3: were like the ideal couple in Hindu mythology.

924
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 2: So it's very good luck.

925
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 3: And that's why you kind of see a lot of

926
00:52:56,160 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 3: marigolds present at a lot of weddings in culture, or

927
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 3: at least in Hindu culture. So he's freaking out because

928
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 3: a line of marigolds is basically dropped and it's not

929
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 3: it's not intact, but this is how we enter the film.

930
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 3: It's him freaking out on Dubay who is the wedding

931
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 3: planner slash event planner. We're going to get to hit

932
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 3: at a minute, but lal and Piemi kind of have

933
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 3: a very very sweet relationship and they're just kind of

934
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 3: they're in tune with each other. They work really well.

935
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 3: They're just you know, parents who are trying to get

936
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 3: through the next few days. They're hosting a bunch of

937
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 3: family from all over the globe and they're just really

938
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 3: trying to support each other through this while also taking

939
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 3: care of their younger child and making sure that their

940
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 3: daughter is ready to get married. So we have a

941
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 3: dt Vverhma who's the daughter. And also I will say

942
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 3: that Lalite is played by Nasi Rudunshah, who's a huge

943
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 3: Bollywood actor and if you've watched Bollywood movies at all,

944
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 3: you've probably seen him in quite a few things. And

945
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 3: also Lalite Do who plays Peemi, is also a great

946
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 3: actress in general, but a great Bollywood actress. I think

947
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 3: she also directs, and I think it's very funny that

948
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,439
Speaker 3: his character is named Lalite. And then there's another character

949
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 3: named Dubet, so there's a whole set of characters in

950
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,720
Speaker 3: this film with her full name, which is very very cute.

951
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 3: So then we have a DT and Adit is played

952
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 3: by Vaston Dara Das and she's just gorgeous, like just

953
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 3: this gorgeous little doll looking person. She's the daughter of

954
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 3: this family, but she's also the bride and she's having

955
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 3: this illicit affair when we meet her. She's having this

956
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 3: kind of illicit affair with Vicrom who's a TV host

957
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 3: and with the way we meet him as she kind

958
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 3: of goes to the studio and sees him having this

959
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 3: hosting this conversation about and a woman is basically dubbing

960
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 3: a pornography movie a porto to prove a point about censorship,

961
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 3: which is very very funny.

962
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 2: But she's still kind of in love with this ex.

963
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 3: He's married and he's you know, older than her, so

964
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:04,720
Speaker 3: it's quite an illicit affair.

965
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 2: But she's marrying Hement.

966
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 3: Who is the son of a family friend and he

967
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 3: now lives in Texas and he's a computer engineer, and

968
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 3: Aditi is going to move to Texas with him after

969
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 3: the wedding. But they've only known each other for a

970
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 3: couple of weeks, so she's kind of torn, you know.

971
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 3: One of the primary conflicts we see when we first

972
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 3: meet this these characters and are introduced in this film,

973
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 3: is that she's torn between what is technically a good

974
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 3: marriage match for her versus the love that she has

975
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 3: found and someone who's completely unavailable to her. So she's

976
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 3: she and Hemmant have to work that out eventually, or

977
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 3: she has to work that out eventually.

978
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 2: And we also have my.

979
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 3: Favorite character, Ria Ria Verma, who's a cousin of the family.

980
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 3: She's unmarried, she wants to move to the US and

981
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 3: study creative writing, and her father has died, so Lalite

982
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 3: assumes the role of father in her life. She and

983
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 3: her mother live with Lilite's fan since his brother has

984
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 3: died and his sister. Lalite's sister is married to Tej Puri,

985
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 3: who is this super rich brother in law who lives

986
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 3: in the US and Rhea. As soon as we meet Rio,

987
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:18,240
Speaker 3: we can understand through her body language and her eyes

988
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 3: that she cannot stand Teesh Puri, and we will eventually

989
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 3: find out why. But she's just such a fascinating character

990
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 3: because she's very free and not concerned with marriage and

991
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,879
Speaker 3: concerned with kind of pursuing her own life. But she's

992
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 3: also carrying such a heaviness to her, and it seems

993
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 3: what I love about this actress and again the actress

994
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 3: that plays her as Shefali Shah, And what I love

995
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 3: about this actress is she's able to kind of convey

996
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 3: just through movement and looks that she's somewhat oppressed, but

997
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 3: you can't quite tell if she's oppressed purely because of

998
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 3: her social standing in society or because she's carrying something.

999
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 3: There's like this real dance going on with why is

1000
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 3: she so burdened? And again, like we do find out

1001
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 3: find out why. But I just love that. I just

1002
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 3: I just think this actress is incredibly talented and she's

1003
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 3: just again not maybe the central figure in the film

1004
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 3: because of she's the bribe, but she's the central figure

1005
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 3: in the film because of her, you know, the way

1006
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 3: she propels the story.

1007
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 2: So I really really love that.

1008
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 3: And then there's other people that come like Peemi's sister

1009
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 3: and her husband also have arrived from Oman. Rahul is

1010
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 3: Peem's nephew from Australia who Lally constantly refers to as

1011
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 3: an idiot, which I think is hilarious, and he's like

1012
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 3: every young child in the family. He just calls him

1013
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 3: an idiot. He's like, you don't know anything, You're a

1014
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 3: fucking idiot, but it's done with a weird, loving touch,

1015
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 3: but also sometimes not Yeah.

1016
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 1: He's kind of got like a surfer vibe to him almost.

1017
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 4: You know.

1018
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like he shows up with a broken arm and

1019
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 3: he's just kind of like, hey man, when I like, yeah,

1020
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 3: I went to the to the airport to pick up

1021
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 3: you know, auntie and uncle, but I didn't see him,

1022
00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 3: so I left, you know.

1023
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 2: But then as I was driving, I realized, like, I

1024
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 2: don't even know what they look like.

1025
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 3: So he just like left people at the airport because

1026
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 3: he's like whatever, man, Like it's.

1027
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:10,479
Speaker 2: Fine, they'll find a way. Yeah, and he like lies

1028
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 2: about it.

1029
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 3: But he's kind of in love with with Aisha, who's

1030
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 3: this other cousin who comes and you know, they she

1031
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 3: has a tattoo, and he's like really into they're both

1032
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 3: kind of outcasts, and he's kind of into her outcast vibe.

1033
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 3: And then we have Varun.

1034
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 2: Who's a DTI's little brother, and this kid is a

1035
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 2: sassy little bit.

1036
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 3: I fucking love him. He loves to watch TV. He

1037
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 3: wants to become a chef. He's like ten to eleven years old.

1038
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 3: He loves dancing, but his father Lalite is kind of

1039
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 3: concerned and worried that he's becoming too sensitive, which in essence,

1040
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 3: he's worried that he's becoming effeminine.

1041
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 2: So his plan is to send him to a boarding school.

1042
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 3: To kind of toughen him up, so to speak, and

1043
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 3: teach him about the hardness of life so that he

1044
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 3: turns out to be successful in the way that his

1045
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 3: father wants him to be successful.

1046
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 2: And Varun is just like not hearing it.

1047
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 3: He's like, I want to do this dance, I want

1048
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 3: to like cook, I want to watch TV. But he's

1049
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 3: kind of in this again generationally a weird mode because

1050
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 3: we've already found out that Tej Puri, who's the uncle

1051
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 3: from the States that Rhea can't stand, he's super rich

1052
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 3: and he's kind of taking care of the family post partition.

1053
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,439
Speaker 3: So after the partition of India, which if you don't

1054
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 3: know about, you should read about, he kind of got

1055
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 3: the family back on their feet and he's sort of

1056
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 3: the patriarch of the family, even if Lally is a

1057
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 3: little bit older and more established in New Delhi, so

1058
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 3: he's kind of at the whim of this man who's

1059
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 3: financially ensured the survival of his family, and so in

1060
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 3: his mind, in Lalite's mind, I think he looks at

1061
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 3: Varun and kind of wants him to live up to

1062
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 3: a certain expectation so that he can make his uncle

1063
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 3: proud or make you know this, this.

1064
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 2: Brother in law proud.

1065
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 3: So Varun is hilarious because he's like, I'm a nineties child.

1066
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 2: And I will hear none of it. Yeah, exactly, I'm

1067
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 2: a child of the nineties.

1068
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 3: But then we also have this incredibly sweet love story

1069
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 3: between Dubay and Alice. Dubay is the event planner, Alice

1070
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 3: is the maid for the family, and I fucking love Dubay.

1071
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 3: He is such a weirdo and he's kind of a mess,

1072
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 3: even though he's running like a very profitable and successful business,

1073
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 3: Like he's just so hilarious and weird, and everything he

1074
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 3: says it sounds like he's hustling you, even if he's

1075
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 3: telling you the truth.

1076
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 2: Like his demeanor is hilarious. But he lives with.

1077
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 3: His mother and he has a calculator watch and whenever

1078
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 3: he's giving any kind of financial like, he's giving any

1079
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 3: kind of financial update to Lalite, he's like, this is

1080
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 3: the cost exactly and approximately, so he's just like costantly, like, yeah,

1081
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 3: this is it for now, but it could go up

1082
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 3: at any point. And I just love him because energy

1083
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 3: is so hyper and he kind of has like a

1084
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 3: like he's trying. You can see him striving so hard

1085
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 3: to create a life where he's successful in this way.

1086
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 3: And Alice is the Verma's maid, and she's so sweet

1087
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 3: and so cute, and she she really likes Dubey as

1088
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 3: soon as she meets him because they're all there kind

1089
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 3: of getting the wedding stuff together and she has them

1090
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 3: feelance water. She kind of cares to him and takes

1091
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 3: care of him and like is interested in him and

1092
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 3: his friends and coworkers, like everyone working for him makes

1093
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:18,959
Speaker 3: fun of him for it. But there's the cutest scene

1094
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 3: where he tries to flirt and like gives her his

1095
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 3: business card and it's just very very sweet to watch

1096
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 3: them kind of dance around each other. And you know, again,

1097
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 3: in the midst of this, he's promising the world to Lalie, like, yeah,

1098
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 3: I'll waterproof your ten, but it's going to cost you

1099
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 3: five thousand bucks, and he's, you know, Lead's like freaking out,

1100
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 3: So every time Deubay's on the scene, it's like elite

1101
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 3: or somebody in the family's freaking out on him because

1102
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 3: he needs to do something.

1103
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 2: But it's also going to cost them more money.

1104
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: I like that they gave these characters a romance, do

1105
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, because they're kind of,

1106
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 1: you know, obviously they're kind of classified as like, I

1107
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: don't know, quote unquote the help right, It's like they're

1108
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 1: sort of, uh uh, not a part of the family.

1109
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 1: They were kind of, you know, obviously helping the family

1110
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 1: or employed by the family. And just the idea that

1111
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: they have a story arc like that is really cool

1112
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 1: to me.

1113
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's super sweet because it also gives a different

1114
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 3: is a different tinge to this this story that's.

1115
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 2: About an arranged marriage and you're wondering whether or not

1116
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 2: this couple can find love, and then you're watching a

1117
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 2: more natural love at first site situation happening in real time.

1118
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 2: So it's just showing the difference.

1119
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 3: I like that the film shows the different ways that

1120
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 3: people can fall in love or can find love with

1121
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 3: each other.

1122
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 2: Right, And there's a.

1123
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 3: Bit of a there's a point in the film where

1124
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 3: Dubay's kind of watching Alice, and she's she's very sneakily

1125
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 3: kind of trying on the wedding jewelry, and you can

1126
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 3: tell that she's sort of fantasizing about her own wedding

1127
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 3: day and you know, her own station in life because

1128
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 3: this is the Vermas are kind of an upper class family,

1129
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 3: so she, you know, were if she were to get married,

1130
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 3: this probably wouldn't be the way she would do it.

1131
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 3: But she's kind of fantasizing and having fun, and he's

1132
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 3: just enjoying watching her. And then all of his coworkers

1133
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 3: and employees come around and they're like, yo, she's stealing

1134
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 3: that shit, and they start causing a fucking ruckus and

1135
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 3: she's embarrassed, and so there's a point in the film where,

1136
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 3: you know, because they accuse her of stealing, she kind

1137
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 3: of pulls away from Dubey and he gets super depressed.

1138
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 2: But then there's another.

1139
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 3: Sweet, just the sweetest scene in the film where they

1140
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 3: kind of all like he leaves for the day and

1141
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 3: he's so sad he can't even work, and then all

1142
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 3: the coworkers and employees kind of rally around Alice and

1143
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 3: are like, we're so sorry, we totally messed up like

1144
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 3: we didn't mean it. It's just really sweet to see

1145
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 3: them trying to kind of they realize they've messed up

1146
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 3: in a bigger way and they're trying to to kind

1147
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 3: of fix it, which is sweet. So yeah, So this

1148
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 3: is the kind of the core of the film is

1149
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 3: about all of these folks and everyone else in their orbit.

1150
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 3: And I because it's so sprawling, I don't want to

1151
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 3: ruin anything intentionally, but I will say there are just

1152
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 3: so many moments that I just absolutely love. Like there's

1153
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 3: this song. There's this song that they're singing during the

1154
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 3: Hennah ceremony. Oh, and it's just it's so cool to

1155
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 3: see like all these women around just kind of you know,

1156
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 3: they're doting on a dt like the bride, and it's

1157
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 3: just really I love seeing those cultural moments, And I

1158
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 3: love seeing those moments that remind you that this is

1159
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 3: an event for everyone, Like they they make it so

1160
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 3: that everyone who's in attendance has a role or a

1161
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 3: job or some some involvement in helping this day be

1162
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 3: be beautiful. I also love there's like these little moments

1163
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 3: where you see that her mom that pee me has

1164
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 3: been kind of collecting these sorry since the day she

1165
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 3: was born and keeping them in this little case, and

1166
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 3: you know, but she's pee Me and the lead are

1167
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 3: also really sad, like they're like, we're giving our daughter's

1168
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 3: going away, Like we know that we were trying to

1169
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 3: plan for this moment, but in the midst of all

1170
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 3: the craziness of the wedding, like they really stop and

1171
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 3: consider that, like their daughter is moving on and moving

1172
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 3: into another country and moving away. And then we also

1173
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,919
Speaker 3: have I don't know, just I kind of like seeing

1174
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 3: the parents kind of mourning in the midst of this

1175
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 3: happiness that they have. You also have this great scene

1176
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 3: where a DT meets up with v Crum, the person

1177
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 3: she's having an affair with, and she has sex with

1178
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 3: him like the day before her wedding, essentially, and the

1179
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 3: cops show up because they're just parked somewhere off the

1180
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 3: road and it's raining like crazy, and she steals the

1181
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 3: car to get away from the cops because she's so scared.

1182
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 3: But then she also makes a really incredible decision where

1183
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 3: you know, she's kind of talking to her cousin and

1184
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 3: she says, you know, I have to tell hemment about Vicram,

1185
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 3: like I can't start this marriage with lies and she does.

1186
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 3: You know, she tells him that she's had sex with

1187
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 3: her ex essentially, and they're one day away from the

1188
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 3: wedding and we're not sure what's going to happen at all.

1189
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 3: But then, you know, Hemment really shows himself to be

1190
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 3: kind of a stand up dude because he's like, we

1191
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 3: can get past this. I understand, Like my heart's been

1192
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 3: broken too. And this actor, the actor who plays Hammont

1193
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 3: parvind Debas is so cute.

1194
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 2: He's so fucking gorgeous.

1195
01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 3: It is like, like, girl, forget that ex, move to

1196
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 3: goddamn Texas with this dude. He's above all else, kind

1197
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 3: and sweet, but he's hot, Like you can move to

1198
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 3: text this for a hot guy, Like just try it.

1199
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. That's like the one thing I love about Miraa

1200
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 1: and Nayer's movies is that there's like a sensualness to them. Yeah,

1201
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,919
Speaker 1: And I mean, obviously with Mississippi Massala, I mean that's

1202
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 1: probably one of the most sensual movies I've ever seen

1203
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: in my life. But you know, just the interactions between

1204
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 1: these characters, like these in these romantic situations, there's like

1205
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: something sensual and sexy about it. You know that, and

1206
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 1: that the scene you're talking about really really reminds me

1207
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 1: of it, just this way that she's able to like

1208
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 1: she's basically making this I don't know, Robert Altman esque

1209
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 1: sort of family movie with a lot of characters, but

1210
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 1: she still can like distill these like moments of like

1211
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 1: romance and sensuality. It's like really good man, love it absolutely.

1212
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 3: And it happens again in one of my favorite scenes

1213
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 3: where Ayisha has planned this dance with Varun, but he's like,

1214
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 3: I'm not doing this fucking dance because my family's being

1215
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 3: a pain in the ass and telling me that I

1216
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 3: can't be a chef when I grow up.

1217
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 2: So she asks for a whole to dance.

1218
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 3: With her, and he's really shy and kind of won't

1219
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 3: do it, and then one of the the aunts goes

1220
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 3: up and is like, you can't win if you don't

1221
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 3: play the game essentially, and so they have this really

1222
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 3: sweet moment where he kind of like pushes another guy

1223
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 3: the way and like dances with Ayisha because he knows

1224
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 3: the dance. He's seen them practicing it for like days,

1225
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 3: and it's again like sensual and fun and like you're

1226
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 3: kind of watching them dance around each other and then

1227
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 3: with each other and then everyone joins in and they're

1228
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 3: kind of like their romance kind of brings people together.

1229
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 3: It's just very, very wonderful. It's a wonderful tool that

1230
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 3: me or and night Year is able to use to

1231
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 3: kind of emphasize the beauty of these characters. And you know,

1232
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 3: individually and collectively, I just love it. I love it.

1233
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 3: And then there's also there's a point in the movie

1234
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 3: I don't want to tell I won't reveal the super

1235
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 3: duper ending, but I will say there's a point in

1236
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 3: the film about twenty minutes away from the end of

1237
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 3: the movie, where I start crying and basically don't stop

1238
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 3: until it ends. And what's wild is that when I

1239
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:17,639
Speaker 3: first start crying or being sad, it's because of sadness,

1240
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 3: but it shifts emotionally from sadness to joy. And I

1241
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:23,839
Speaker 3: think that Mira and Ayer is such a fucking miracle

1242
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 3: in this way as a director that you could be

1243
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 3: watching the same scene and run through seventeen different emotions

1244
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 3: while you're watching one scene. It's just it's truly, I think,

1245
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 3: because she's so adept at nailing down the kind of

1246
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 3: complexity of the human condition that she just nails it

1247
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 3: every time and brings all these different emotional components into

1248
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 3: a scene that you can't.

1249
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,719
Speaker 2: Even believe the rides you're going on in one viewing.

1250
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 2: But it's very interesting.

1251
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,679
Speaker 3: I think that it's the dark vein in the movie

1252
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 3: that I'm talking about is that basically Rhea has been

1253
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 3: watching Tej, this rich uncle from the States, kind of

1254
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 3: grooming Aliyah, who's one of the younger girls in the family,

1255
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 3: and since he's the patriarch of the family, nobody quite knows.

1256
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 3: She doesn't quite know what to do, but she eventually

1257
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 3: makes a pretty stunning revelation and it recks lalite, and

1258
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 3: you know, he knows that he needs her for the wedding,

1259
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:22,600
Speaker 3: but he's indebted to the uncle, but he also acknowledges

1260
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 3: her pain. And it's just it's deeply complex, and so

1261
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,759
Speaker 3: I think that she's able to come through that moment

1262
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 3: with all the emphasis and again complexity that you want

1263
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 3: and need in that scene and then move you instantly

1264
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 3: to a place where again, five minutes later, you're like

1265
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 3: joyful of laughing and in the moment in a whole

1266
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 3: different way.

1267
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 2: So I just I love it. I think the end

1268
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:48,480
Speaker 2: of this movie is fantastic.

1269
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, what an amazing movie to watch during the summer.

1270
01:09:56,120 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 1: Like it's a great, like you know, film, so bright

1271
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 1: and so texture, there's so many characters, it's like you're

1272
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 1: kind of just like dropped into this event and you're

1273
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:10,599
Speaker 1: just watching all the different like you said, the moving

1274
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 1: parts kind of working together. But it really makes me

1275
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 1: want to go to India. I really want to go

1276
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 1: to India. Oh my god, I've never been. I've never been.

1277
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've been, but.

1278
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 3: I haven't, and I would fucking love to go. I

1279
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 3: think that's it's on my absolute tops of my wish list.

1280
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 3: And I think the only reason that I haven't gone

1281
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 3: so far is it feels like a place i'd want

1282
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 3: to go for a long time because there are a

1283
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 3: lot of different aspects of India to explore. So I

1284
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 3: wouldn't want it to be just like a five day trip,

1285
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 3: like it would have to be like a month or more.

1286
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:47,640
Speaker 3: And so I just haven't really gotten that to that

1287
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 3: point in my life where I could do that. But

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Speaker 3: I'm going one day. I'm going.

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Speaker 2: I actually I absolutely have to.

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Speaker 3: I think it's you know, and again, there's so much

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Speaker 3: to discover and learn and really just not do the

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Speaker 3: Midnight Express tour of India.

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Speaker 2: Just really do the.

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Speaker 3: Opposite, like embed yourself in the culture and just pay

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Speaker 3: attention to and listen to people that live there and

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Speaker 3: experience things there.

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Speaker 2: But it's just so vibrant and cool.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if you've ever been to an

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Speaker 3: Indian wedding or but they're just so fucking fun. They're

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Speaker 3: so much fun, and it's just, yeah, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: I think that there's it.

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Speaker 2: I have to go. I have to go one day.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if there's anybody out there that's listening and wants

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Speaker 1: to organize a month long trip to India for Danielle

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Speaker 1: and i'se emails not I saw what you did pot

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Speaker 1: at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 2: Look, you never know.

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Speaker 1: I've put it out there in the universe. I'm just

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Speaker 1: saying uttering the words.

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Speaker 2: You put it out there, and somebody contacted us to

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Speaker 2: take a cruise. So it's not the weirdest thing that

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Speaker 2: could happen. It's not weird at all that it could happen.

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Speaker 1: Just say the words, say.

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Speaker 2: Them, speak them into existence.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, watch Watchmonsoon Wedding has a fucking great soundtrack,

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Speaker 3: Like it's just such a good movie.

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Speaker 2: Top two bottom.

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Speaker 3: I can not believe that this is Sabrina Dewan's first screenplay,

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Speaker 3: but it's like it's magic. It's lightning in a bottle

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Speaker 3: kind of magic. And I just adore this film and

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Speaker 3: we'll watch it every time I think of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, thanks for picking it. It was it needed

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Speaker 1: to clear the room of the Midnight express vibe. So

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Speaker 1: not to say that Midnight expresses this terrible movie in

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Speaker 1: that way, but you know what I mean, it's just

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Speaker 1: after watching something heavy like that, it's nice to kind

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Speaker 1: of be brought back into the light, the lightness or

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Speaker 1: the colors, the happiness of the wedding and the romance.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I appreciated it. Ekscelling, Well, look, I loved

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Speaker 1: this week. I'm glad that we've got to talk about

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Speaker 1: these movies. And if you want to email us about

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Speaker 1: them or about anything else, you can email us at

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Speaker 1: I Saw you Did Pot at gmail dot.

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Speaker 3: Com, and you can find us on our social media

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01:12:57,800 --> 01:12:59,759
Speaker 3: at I Saw Upot on Instagram and Twitter.

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Speaker 1: We also have merch go to the I Saw What

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Speaker 1: You Did section of the Exactly Right Shop to find it.

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Speaker 2: And you know we have bonus episodes coming out all

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Speaker 2: the time. I don't even need to tell you.

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Speaker 3: Just check your feed like once a week on a Wednesday,

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Speaker 3: and they'll be probably a new bonus an old bonus up.

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Speaker 3: But our new bonus episodes come out once a month

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Speaker 3: Thurs Thursday of every month, and the rest of the month,

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Speaker 3: they're just populating those old episodes into that feed faster

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Speaker 3: than you can think of.

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Speaker 1: It exactly Well, next episode thest movies, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a good one.

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Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be great.

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Speaker 3: Our films next week are Attack the Block from twenty

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Speaker 3: eleven and Earth Girls Are Easy from nineteen eighty eight.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, guess the theme. Guess the theme. Danielle

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Speaker 1: has always a fucking pleasure doing this podcast with you.

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Speaker 1: I loved it. It was so fun. See it soon.

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Speaker 3: This has been an exactly right production. Produced by Ksey O'Brien,

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Speaker 3: mixed by Edson Choi. Our theme song is by Tom

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Speaker 3: bry Fogel. Artwork by Garrett Ross. Our executive producers are

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Speaker 3: Georgia Hartstart, karenkle Gareff, and Daniel Kramer. You can follow

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Speaker 3: us on Instagram and Twitter at I saw Pod, and

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Speaker 3: you can email us at I saw what you did.

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Speaker 2: Pod at gmail,