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Speaker 1: Unpacking the Toolbox is a production of Shondaland Audio in

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Speaker 1: partnership with Iheartradios.

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Speaker 2: Katie, Do you like how unattractive I am? Like, I'm

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Speaker 2: a real chameleon?

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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Shut the fuck up? No?

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Speaker 2: No, Like me without makeup is impressive, and me with

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Speaker 2: makeup is I'm a fucking dream.

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Speaker 1: Look what do you want? Yo? How was the audition?

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Speaker 2: It was my first time ever using a teleprompter?

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Speaker 3: Have you?

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Speaker 1: Oh really? Oh yeah, I've used teleprompters, but not for

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Speaker 1: scripted stuff, only for like hosts, the type things.

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Speaker 2: Well, when i get like eight pages of monologues, now,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, guys, especially if it's like dea crap.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of dea and lawyerly speak, we have the fucking

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Speaker 2: most mischievous guest today coming on, and he's the best

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Speaker 2: lawyer speak motherfucker actor I've ever seen in my life.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, can you believe.

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Speaker 2: This motherfucker at how easy? I hate him? I know,

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Speaker 2: I know, And I'm drilling like legal talk and making

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Speaker 2: it feel like it just like comes off the time.

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Speaker 2: And also it takes me days to prep that, and

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Speaker 2: this shit came in like yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it takes me days because I need to be confident,

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Speaker 1: Like I want to feel confident. But this motherfucker, I

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Speaker 1: mean you've said this before. God, he'll look at that

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Speaker 1: shit in the makeup trader and be like and then get.

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Speaker 2: An inn and it's easy. And he's not even shaken.

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Speaker 2: He can't be shook.

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Speaker 1: Well, because he could give a shit too. He's like,

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Speaker 1: I don't care, I don't care. I just want the cake.

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Speaker 2: Great, I mean, this is his middle name should be.

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Speaker 1: I just want the paycheck.

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Speaker 2: Had you ever had auditions where you have to like

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Speaker 2: pick up sides or a script, oh my capos or

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Speaker 2: some o the time?

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Speaker 1: Are you kidding? All the time?

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Speaker 2: Really?

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Speaker 1: When I first moved to La I would have to

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Speaker 1: drive to my agency and there would be a basket

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Speaker 1: would leave your script in a Manila envelope with your

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I remember that. At the time of this recording,

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Speaker 2: I would just also like to say, this is the

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Speaker 2: seventeenth year to the day anniversary when I moved to Las.

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Speaker 3: What.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's a long time.

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Speaker 2: It's a long time, Like I can't even believe it.

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Speaker 2: But I always remember getting off at lax, being like,

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Speaker 2: what did I just do to blow out my life

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Speaker 2: like this? Renting a beatter piece of shit sucked up car,

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Speaker 2: and I got on the four h five and the

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Speaker 2: ten scariest drive of my entire life. And I had

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Speaker 2: a Thomas guy to get around.

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Speaker 1: Some big ass nerd created the Thomas Guide. I was like,

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Speaker 1: don't even come at me with this thick book of

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Speaker 1: fucking coordinates, Like what are you talking about?

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Speaker 2: So I used to try to get around auditions.

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Speaker 1: Oh hell no.

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Speaker 2: I'm a geographic dumb dumb. I'm a bad driver, like

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Speaker 2: very bad, which reminds me. Also, you and I, You

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Speaker 2: and I are cut, we have the same We shot

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Speaker 2: the pilot and it's raining and you're in a you're

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Speaker 2: so hot, you're in a leather jacket and you're in

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Speaker 2: a jeep wrangler that has no top.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. Remember, And you're.

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Speaker 2: Like, can I follow you to get on the one

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Speaker 2: oh one? And I kept saying like yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I got it, I got it, I got it. And

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Speaker 2: I see you in my rearview mirror like following me,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know where I'm going, and I just

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Speaker 2: remember I keep pulling Uie's and you're pulling Uie's and

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Speaker 2: it's straining as shit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, it would be worse if it

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Speaker 1: I was like, do you think take your time now?

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Speaker 2: There are a few controversial players that we have had

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Speaker 2: Controversial players. This one is a controversial player because he

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Speaker 1: This is the number one fucking polarizing.

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Speaker 2: Like you either are on board with his antics or

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I fucking Teeter Tod. I'm back and forth like

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Speaker 1: I love him and I laugh and I enjoy it,

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Speaker 1: and then I'm like, I cannot believe you freaking did that.

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Speaker 1: I'm so pissed at him, Like I go back and forth.

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Speaker 2: He's kind of scared of you.

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Speaker 2: See, he never fucked with you, no yah, And I

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Speaker 2: feel like it's because he was always a little bit like, oh,

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Speaker 2: you don't do that to Garmo, Like you don't there,

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Speaker 2: he didn't do to you what he's done did to me,

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Speaker 2: or because I'm such a fucking easy target. But here's

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Speaker 2: the thing, he's the most talented dude without trying, which

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but also a quick win and a quick

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Speaker 2: Sometimes, guys, we would do cold reads of our scripts,

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Speaker 2: something that was like a colloquialism. Same, like quickly look

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Speaker 2: at Quinn's lines to make sure there wasn't something that

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Speaker 2: would out how like unintelligent I was. Because there were

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Speaker 2: so many fucking smart people in our cast, Like do

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Speaker 2: you know that Bellamy Young and Josh Williana went to Yale.

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Speaker 1: Fucking Yale dude like Yuryo.

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Speaker 2: Kidding and Shanda went to Dartmouth. Half the writers or

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Speaker 1: Where'd you go, Katie.

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Speaker 2: Well, I went to schoolcident. Oh, you gotta be smart

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Speaker 1: Well, listen, it's not easy to get into.

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Speaker 2: No, you have to have done well. But it has

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Speaker 2: nothing to do with smarts. For me, I just was

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Speaker 2: ya from Jump. But guys, we have teased one of

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Speaker 2: the most controversial and polarizing guests to have ever been

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Speaker 2: on the skin of Rewatch podcast and on Scandal. I

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Speaker 2: talking about episode two oh one called White Hats Off,

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Speaker 2: which aired on September twenty seventh of twenty twelve, and it.

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Speaker 1: Was written by Jenna Bands and directed by our very

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Speaker 1: own we love him so much, Tom Verica.

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Speaker 2: Whoa, whoa, We love you, Tom Verica. It was guest

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Speaker 2: starring Wendy Davis Is, Kimberly, Mitchell Reese Rios as Reporter

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Speaker 2: Number one did Nora Wilcott is reporter number two, Erica

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Speaker 1: And then we have Jimmy Kimmel as himself, Jackson Hurst

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Speaker 1: as Congressman Jacob Shaw, Gillian Armanante as Moira, O'Donnell Maro

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Speaker 1: Sodan as doctor Brown. And I wanted to add Shelley

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, she was the job.

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Speaker 3: Come on.

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Speaker 2: This is the synopsis. This was our first episode back.

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Speaker 2: the first season, we didn't know for sure if we

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Speaker 2: Six months after Quin's arrest, Olivia and the OPA team

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Speaker 1: Is Quinn's case begins to crumble around her, but Olivia

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Speaker 2: Found guilty, probably because she and Huck were the ones

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Speaker 1: end of season one is Olivia telling Quinn, do you

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Speaker 1: want to tell them who you are? Or you want

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Speaker 2: Do you want to tell them who you really are?

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Speaker 2: Well, this aired September twenty seventh, in twenty twelve, and

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Speaker 2: I think our last Scandal episode was like May. So

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Speaker 2: I have this memory of two hundred and fifteen people

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Speaker 2: Who is Quinn? Who is Quinn? And I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: And probably the writers didn't fully know exactly which direction

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Speaker 2: Knew it, Yeah, I don't think they knew it all.

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Speaker 2: Every episode with Hollis Doyle until this point, he is

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Speaker 1: Mmm, gettysburger. How good does a burger sound right now? Fuck?

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Speaker 2: I would rush a burger right now.

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Speaker 1: and he's eating a cheeseburger at just like a you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, come on, oh god, I love it. There

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Speaker 2: are three fucking continuity errors in this episode. Photos of

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Speaker 2: a Lane show that she's blonde, but in truth or Consequences,

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Speaker 2: the actors playing a Lane is a brunette.

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Speaker 1: A brunette.

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Speaker 2: Oh this is the best. Yeah, Jesse Tyler is not

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Speaker 2: Adam Shapiro at this time. It's some other dude that

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Speaker 2: they took photos of and they whoopsie doodle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't know Adam was gonna play play the role.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 2: After Olivia and David leave the court, the next scene

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Speaker 2: shows the Monument of Iwojima with the State House in

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Speaker 2: Washington monument in the background, But the EU Gema monument

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Speaker 2: is not in DC. It's in Arlington.

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Speaker 1: That's messed up advertising.

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Speaker 2: That's that's that's that continuity that didn't happen. Were there

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Speaker 2: any winning scenes from this episode?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: And you're in it. The scene where you end up

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Speaker 1: firing Olivia and she comes to see you in jail, right,

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Speaker 1: and your other attorney that you hire is there, and

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Speaker 1: Olivia's like, give me a moment, please, and You're like, fine,

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Speaker 2: One of them many reasons we're bringing Josh Malina into

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Speaker 1: That's right. I can't believe that they weren't always regulars either,

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Speaker 1: They were just guest stars.

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Speaker 1: Oh for sure, and we would have had some a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we'll be right back.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Wait the most the one whoa facial.

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Speaker 1: There, I know why I did too.

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Speaker 2: Ah, you handsome. We were saying that you might be

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Speaker 3: As far as controversial, I think I am the closest

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Speaker 1: That's true.

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Speaker 3: I got called to uncomfortable meetings a couple of times

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Speaker 1: I believe it. I'm not surprised.

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Speaker 2: And it was like Shanda, Betsy and Geirmo. I was like,

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Speaker 3: I'm going based in fear. I think that's true. Well,

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Speaker 3: I'm only scared of Germo because I watched the show. Personally,

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Speaker 1: For that guy, and you were like, this motherfucker's crazy.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's fucking scary. He's fucking scary. Wait, Josh,

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Speaker 2: so the West Wing podcast, when did you start it

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Speaker 2: and when did you end it?

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Speaker 3: March twenty sixteen, and then I believe the final wrap

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Speaker 3: up episode was on my birthday January seventeenth, twenty twenty,

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Speaker 3: so it was about four years. Just shy of four years.

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Speaker 1: Holy oh wow.

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Speaker 3: We did a live show at the Ace Theater.

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Speaker 2: Oh the Ace. That's huge. Oh nice, The Ace Theater

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Fun fact about season one of Scandal, uh huh.

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Speaker 3: I was a guest star in all seven episodes of

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Speaker 3: and you, Josh, are guest star. What does that mean?

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Speaker 3: I said? You know how, at the end of the week,

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Speaker 1: Isn't that always a bitch? I've been in the positions

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Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, that happens now more than ever.

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Speaker 1: Usually I would just stay and keep doing the job

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Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I wanted to work for Shanda Rhimes. I

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Speaker 1: You did you did a graze?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Oh yeah?

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Speaker 2: Were you adorable? Wait? What did you play on Grays?

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Speaker 3: I was young. On Gray's. I was Leslie Grossman's husband

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Speaker 3: lines like no poop, no poop for you.

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Speaker 1: You came onto the right podcast, Josh, because we talk

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Speaker 2: We talked about shitting like nobody business. But wait, Josh,

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Speaker 2: two things.

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Speaker 2: We wanted to have you on this episode two oh

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Speaker 2: one because congratulations, this is when you became a series regular.

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Speaker 1: Of why yes, the first.

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Speaker 2: Seven were you a little bit? And then the first

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Speaker 1: She loves you so much.

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Speaker 2: Josh Melena walked on and she was like, Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: She was a big West Wing fan, right age West

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Speaker 3: There it is. That's right, Seth Hammer. It was Hammertown

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Speaker 2: Why did you become a regular? How did this happen?

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Speaker 3: Well, here's what happened. I had been offered episodes of

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Speaker 2: Do you remember what the scenes were?

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Speaker 3: I remember one where like I talked about her spidy

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, So it scenes with o Libya. Maybe

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Speaker 3: Cute, You're very sweet. I think that's exactly what it was.

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Speaker 3: And then what they said was this, you got the pilot,

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Speaker 3: They said, wait, wait, wait, but you can choose how

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Speaker 2: Did you feel like you wanted to be in all

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it made it. It seem like the greatest

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Speaker 1: So that was cute.

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Speaker 3: So I was just desperately like waiting.

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Speaker 1: Wait. Was Dan Bulkotinski auditioning for David Rosen as well?

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Speaker 3: Yes, he was, no way. Unfortunately he didn't get it,

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Speaker 3: Well that shows one of the nice things about Shonda,

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Speaker 3: all right, this role, maybe that's not Claire, this isn't Oh,

441
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,439
Speaker 3: I think we found the one, and so we're lucky

442
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,480
Speaker 3: to be in her in her sphere of player.

443
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,840
Speaker 2: When you came on board and started to like, see

444
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 2: why I say you're controversial is because our cast is

445
00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:32,880
Speaker 2: incredibly gushy and huggy and kissy and lovey and texty,

446
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:37,399
Speaker 2: and Josh is like not was the West Wing cast

447
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,120
Speaker 2: like really cool and like whatever? And then you got

448
00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,200
Speaker 2: into our cast and you were like, this is insane.

449
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,040
Speaker 2: These people love each other way too much. They have

450
00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,679
Speaker 2: to stop hugging at every table read nobody fucking cares stop.

451
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the west Wing was somewhere on the

452
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,680
Speaker 3: spectrum between my like let's never talk to each other

453
00:20:55,800 --> 00:21:00,160
Speaker 3: or touch each other and the scandal ethos of like,

454
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,880
Speaker 3: let's just have a big friendship organ Somewhere between those

455
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 3: two is west wing. It was probably right in the middle,

456
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:08,400
Speaker 3: got it.

457
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,880
Speaker 1: Speaking of texting, though, I remember Josh did love texting

458
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 1: on other people's phones.

459
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 3: That's true.

460
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 1: And what he would text was I'm horny.

461
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:17,959
Speaker 3: I put it on Twitter.

462
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

463
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,439
Speaker 1: He never did it to me, but you've done it

464
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 1: to Katie me three times.

465
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 2: Now. Let's set the scene ten years ago. I don't

466
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,199
Speaker 2: think I even had a lock on my phone, to

467
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 2: be honest. I mean, I was just that naive and trustworthy.

468
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 2: I just remember chasing you and being like, give me

469
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 2: back my phone, and he'd get on my Twitter account

470
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,880
Speaker 2: and he would just tweet from my Twitter account I'm morny.

471
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 2: And then I would just get like days of like

472
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 2: why isn't Adam taking care of that, and just mortified.

473
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 2: But that's just the beginning. Have you been a pranks

474
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 2: through your whole life?

475
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 3: I have, Indeed I have. When I guests star on

476
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,880
Speaker 3: other people's shows, I'm usually well behaved but then once

477
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 3: I start feeling comfortable as a series regular on something

478
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,399
Speaker 3: like now I'm bored, let's have some fun. Yeah, and

479
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 3: I usually feel like I won't get fired and unscandaled

480
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 3: a couple of times it was like Shonda and Betsy

481
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 3: need to talk.

482
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 2: To you about and were you, like really scared?

483
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 3: The first time I finished filming a scene and Ad

484
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 3: came to me and said, hey, don't change out of

485
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 3: your wardrobe. You need to go straight to Shandan Betsy's office,

486
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 3: I was like really, And I said what about? And

487
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 3: She's like, I don't know. They didn't say, and I was,

488
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 3: as I was walking there, was thinking, can't be getting.

489
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 1: A raise, can't be good.

490
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 3: It seems unlikely that this is good news. And when

491
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 3: I got up there, it wasn't good news. Jimmy Kimmel,

492
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,400
Speaker 3: who was a prankster himself, had sent me all these

493
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 3: codes that allow you to send a text or an

494
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 3: email as if it's from a specific person's phone. And

495
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 3: I remember writing back to Jimmy like, this is great.

496
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 3: Do you think it would be a bad idea to

497
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 3: write emails from Shonda Rhymes to people? And he said no,

498
00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 3: I think that would be a great idea, but I

499
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 3: would wait until Scared handles off.

500
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 4: The air.

501
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: Right now. No.

502
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 3: I was like, it's April Fool's Day, Like, how can

503
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 3: I not do this? And I just wrote an email

504
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 3: to Tom Verica, our executive directing producer, and I wrote

505
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 3: him an email from Shanda that just said not cool.

506
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 2: Tom lost his ship.

507
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 3: Well, as it turns out, he was in the middle

508
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 3: of renegotiating his contract. This is just bad timing renegotiating.

509
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,679
Speaker 2: Josh, are you fucking kidding me?

510
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 3: Yeah? I figured he'd see it. He knows it's a prifool,

511
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 3: so probably call me and be like, dude, did you

512
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 3: do this? Or he'll call Shana the laugh. But weeks

513
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 3: past and I was like, maybe it didn't even go through,

514
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 3: like they should worry about. Then I got this thing

515
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 3: like go see them in their office and I sat

516
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 3: down and they started saying like Tom Verica got in

517
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 3: an email. I was like, oh, not cool, Tom, Yeah

518
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 3: I did that, and they were like, don't impersonate me.

519
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 1: I how did they even find out that it was you?

520
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 3: They didn't. I think they just went through there.

521
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: They were like it's gotta be Josh.

522
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 3: Apparently there was a whole like Disney ABC investigations. I

523
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 3: think they like I don't think they forensically traced it

524
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 3: to me. I think just someone said, like, who's the asshole,

525
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,199
Speaker 3: who's most likely to have done this?

526
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 2: I remember vague things after this came out that they

527
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 2: were like, holy shit, Shanda thought she had been hacked.

528
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 2: They had hired like people to look through the server

529
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 2: and make sure that no one else was emailing.

530
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 3: On The hack was definitely escalated into something I didn't anticipate,

531
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 3: as pranks sometimes do, and that was a bummer. And

532
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 3: then the second time, which was really bad, was when Portiuderossity,

533
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 3: whom I love and played my love interest on and off.

534
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,239
Speaker 3: She was leaving, she was filming her final day, and

535
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 3: so I took I can't even remember whether it was

536
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 3: a sunscreen or vasoline, and I put it under the

537
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,360
Speaker 3: door handle on the driver's side of her crazy expensive

538
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 3: car in the parking spot next to mine. Every day

539
00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 3: I'd be like, oh a Lamborghini.

540
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 2: Oh wow, unbelievable, Look this is my love language.

541
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 3: I wouldn't do it to somebody I didn't like, but

542
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 3: I expected to hear from Portia like that night or

543
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 3: the next morning, like you got me and blah blah blah,

544
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 3: never heard anything again. Weeks past. Again, I finished filming

545
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 3: a scene and somebody was like, you have to go

546
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 3: straight to there. I'm like, no, not this again. And

547
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 3: I remember I went up there and uh, I was

548
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 3: nervously eating candy from the little candy jar waiting in

549
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 3: the ante room to I guess Shanda's thing. And she

550
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 3: walked past me and the first time ever, she gave

551
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 3: me a death stare. And I was like, oh my god,

552
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 3: this is really bad, like because usually I can see

553
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 3: she like kind of even though I'm a rasped me,

554
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 3: but this was dead. This was a thousand yards stare.

555
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 3: Like I just I ran cold. I mean, I'm sweating

556
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 3: at she's just telling the story. And I went in

557
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 3: and I think I said, what is it this time?

558
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 3: Like trying to break the ice and they were not

559
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 3: having it. They were not laughing, and I think I

560
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 3: then said, please tell me this isn't about portion car

561
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 3: door handle, and they were like, yeah, as a matter

562
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 3: of fact, that is what it's about. And again bad

563
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 3: timing didn't occur to me the final scene she was

564
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 3: filming spoiler alert Can I give a spoiler? Maybe not? Okay,

565
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 3: I believe she died by being beaten to death with

566
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 3: a golf club. Oh yeah, so she was leaving the show.

567
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 3: I'm sure that had some emotion in it. She had

568
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 3: filmed getting killed by golf club for seven hours, and

569
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 3: at three in the morning, she went to her car

570
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 3: and she got a handful of acoline and she thought like, wow,

571
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 3: somebody hates me. And I was like, whoa, no, And

572
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 3: I remember saying to that You're absolutely right to be

573
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 3: upset about this. The last thing I wanted to do

574
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 3: was upset her. I've talked about doing this thing. I

575
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 3: thought she would know immediately. Here's what I can tell you.

576
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,719
Speaker 3: I can tell you that I'm going to walk out

577
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 3: of this office. I'm going to text Portia and I

578
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 3: give you my word, it's not going to be long

579
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 3: before I come back with a text that's like, oh

580
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 3: my god, you got me. And they were like okay,

581
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 3: And I walked out and runs, I'm so sorry. I'm

582
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 3: the one who did the vaclay and you know I

583
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 3: love you, and literally she wrote back like, oh my god,

584
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 3: I love it. And I walked back and I was like,

585
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 3: does this get me off the hook? I showed them

586
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 3: my phone.

587
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: God, damn, damn you, Josh.

588
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 2: My god.

589
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 3: I remember Betsy saying essentially, we are accomplished women who

590
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 3: have more important things to do than field phone calls

591
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 3: from Ellen DeGeneres who's mad that her. Oh my god.

592
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, You're absolutely right. This

593
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 3: is a reflection on the fact that I am not accomplished.

594
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 3: I have nothing but free time to do these kinds

595
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 3: of things, and it really shouldn't spill over into your

596
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 3: busy days. I'm terribly sorry. I would like to continue

597
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 3: working here.

598
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 2: Please accept my Oh God, and Josh, because you are you,

599
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: you will always get off like I just think. I mean,

600
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 2: I just even if it's by this the skin of

601
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 2: your teeth, you will get off. And I don't know

602
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 2: why or how you've made it this far.

603
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 3: I mean that would scare me enough where I don't

604
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 3: think I'll skate that close to the edge ever again.

605
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 3: Because I was thinking if I have to call my

606
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 3: wife and go like I lost my job as scandal

607
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 3: and when she says why, I say, well, think to

608
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 3: kick out of this.

609
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 1: Would like the golf club.

610
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 3: And she would have been riot, like, what's wrong with you?

611
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 3: Grow up? You're in your fifties.

612
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 2: Okay, next question, how the fuck did you? Okay, first

613
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: of all, I know you should all over. Well, you're

614
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 2: really interested all over like like being you know, being

615
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 2: an actor and like you know you're not actorly in that.

616
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: But it's really bullshit because I do think somewhere in your.

617
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 3: Heart you Oh, I do love it. I'm not. I

618
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 3: watched this episode and I was like, I'm always thinking,

619
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna think for the first time like that was

620
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 3: pretty good. Not watching, I was like, my voice is.

621
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: Terrible because no one else is thinking that. I guess, Josh,

622
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: you're so good.

623
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to make you say.

624
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: We've been saying it, Yo, We've taped how many episodes

625
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: already and we are constantly saying how great you are.

626
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: And this episode doesn't even it doesn't even show the

627
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: caliber of your work. That episode when you wake up

628
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: and there's a dead woman in your bed like you were,

629
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: that was brilliant in that episode, such great.

630
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 2: Work wrote you like amazing. I mean, whether or not

631
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 2: it's to your taste. They wrote for you sex scenes

632
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 2: and murder and fucking jury shit and like you're a

633
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 2: school teacher and you're afraid and you're like you got

634
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 2: to do a lot of Oh.

635
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. For the first few episodes, I thought I

636
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 3: was on a procedural. I was like, this is where

637
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 3: you basically give same performance in the same character for

638
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 3: seven years hopefully or eight years and nine years and

639
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,479
Speaker 3: nothing changes. Then like whatever. A few episodes in, I

640
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 3: was like what I read the script, like, which's who.

641
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: Having sex in the shop?

642
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 3: Yeah? I was just like, oh, this is insane. And

643
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 3: then a few more episodes later I'm like, oh my god,

644
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 3: I'm part of the insanity. There's still, by the way,

645
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 3: people who can't believe, like there's a woman who's been

646
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 3: tweeting the last couple of weeks like not another sex

647
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 3: scene with Josh Malina, like, Shanda, what are you doing

648
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 3: to me? I was like, if you think you were

649
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,479
Speaker 3: surprised to be seeing me have sex in or if

650
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 3: you think how surprised I was to open a script

651
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 3: and be.

652
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 2: Like, I have it you and you and Abby. Abby

653
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 2: and David Rosen were like the first couple I feel

654
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 2: like on the show where we were like, oh my god,

655
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 2: these are two lead characters that were going to put

656
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: together like in a sexual scenario.

657
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Speaker 1: And you guys had such.

658
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 3: I was surprised.

659
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: You guys.

660
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 2: Oh, you guys were really good, but you.

661
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: Were also like that that mean big brother who would

662
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: do shit to Darby, Like on set, I remember, we'd

663
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: be rehearsing You're Opa or wherever we had a scene

664
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: and she would be holding her sides. If she was

665
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: sitting on a chair that had wheels, you would grab

666
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: her and wheel her like fifty feet away.

667
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 2: You did that to me all the time too, or.

668
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: You would smack her sides, like, oh josh.

669
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 3: There are definitely people listening now. We're laughing as if

670
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 3: it's great, and there are people listening now, are going

671
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 3: he isn't, but you're Shanda's always talking about her no

672
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 3: asshole policy. It's like, how did this guy?

673
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, we've talked about this on this podcast.

674
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 2: You won't listen to it, so it doesn't matter. But

675
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 2: let me tell your face, no, we talk about how

676
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: fucking good you are. And my question is, I don't

677
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 2: understand how you're that good when you don't try and

678
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: I try so hard, And how do you memorize lines

679
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 2: in the makeup chair? Why does your brain work like that?

680
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 2: Like we just watched the episode where we're like you

681
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 2: sit and you have this amazing monologue where you're like, stab,

682
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 2: stab stab, Oh how I love to stab and it's

683
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 2: a whole monologue that's iron I remember that.

684
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 1: And Harrison like stop talking stuff talking, and you just

685
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: go on and on and on.

686
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 2: But like, do you never prepare or the night before

687
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 2: look over stuff? What's your process?

688
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: That's a good question, just becase Shanda listens to this,

689
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 3: I want to defend myself. I take it seriously to

690
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 3: on a certain level. I do try. I read a

691
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 3: script once to be like, let's see what the story is,

692
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 3: although if I'm probably honest, I read my scenes first.

693
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: I do that too, though I do that too.

694
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 3: Now that it's all delivered electronto being you can just

695
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 3: search Rosen, I'm like, okay, that's all my stuff. Now

696
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 3: let's figure out what's going on. And then when it

697
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 3: was scandal, I would always send the script to my

698
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 3: dad and then I'd be like, so explain to me

699
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 3: what's going on.

700
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I should have done that. Me and

701
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: Katie should have done that. Send it to your dad,

702
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: because sometimes we'd be like, what's happening.

703
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like my dad and my mom are

704
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 3: like my biggest supporters, and they always watched it and

705
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 3: they kept track of it. I'm actually at their house

706
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 3: right now, and I would often say to my dad,

707
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 3: so like talk me through like plot wise, I don't

708
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 3: know why am I in court? And I'm defend what

709
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 3: you remember in season three and you killed that?

710
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: And then so they watch everything you ever do, like

711
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 2: backwards and force, just because they love you and they're

712
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 2: so proud of you.

713
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 3: Pretty much. Yes, that's true. They're very, very supportive Jewish parents.

714
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 3: So I do have a very good memory for dialogue.

715
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 3: I don't know what I have for lunch yesterday, but

716
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,479
Speaker 3: I can remember dialogue very quickly.

717
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: Has that changed since COVID or in Age?

718
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 3: No? I don't think so. Now and now I'm doing plays,

719
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 3: I realized how much I had trained myself to learn

720
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 3: dialogue quickly and forget it quickly. Like if I did

721
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 3: shot this dialogue on Monday, I knew it cold, but

722
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 3: on Tuesday.

723
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 2: Do you have like the Guara had that too, like

724
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 2: an amazing short term memory. You can plug it in

725
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 2: and then the next day it's talking gone.

726
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: The minute we walk off set, when that scene is done,

727
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: it's out of my brain, like it's gone, and Katie

728
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: would be like, let's try to do that scene we

729
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: did like last month, and I was like, Katie, what

730
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: are you talking about? I can't even remember when we're kidding.

731
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: I would do it for fun. I memorize long haul, though,

732
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 2: like I'm such a theater bitch. But okay, if you

733
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 2: had a big monologue on scandal, would you learn it

734
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 2: the night before or always in the makeup chair, like

735
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 2: what were you doing?

736
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 3: I would definitely familiarize myself with it the night before,

737
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 3: feeling that and not just out of laziness, but like

738
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 3: some some smart person once said to me, like, you

739
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 3: want to learn your stuff for TV, but just shy

740
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 3: of knowing it cold, so that it'll appear like you're

741
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 3: finding it a little bit, like you'll seem like a

742
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 3: human being. Yeah, it doesn't sound like they'd memorize something,

743
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 3: so I got I'm very good at finding the line

744
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 3: where like I got it pretty much. I'm gonna sleep

745
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 3: on it and to wake up and in the makeup chair,

746
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 3: I'm gonna nail it down and I'll probably run it

747
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 3: with the other person who also in the makeup chair.

748
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 3: But I do remember one awkward day where we were

749
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 3: all looking at our sides and I said something like,

750
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 3: you know, guys, reminder, who's Christine? And everybody just slowly

751
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 3: looked them in. They're like, are you kidding? Like the

752
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 3: whole season is about this character. I don't know. I

753
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 3: just remember being really embarrassed.

754
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, you were being so you were

755
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: like really no, I really don't know.

756
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't understand the scene why we

757
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 3: also obsessed with the cuisine or whatever it was. And

758
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 3: they were just like, what is wrong with you? I

759
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 3: was embarrassing.

760
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 2: Wait do you ever think about like what do I

761
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 2: want in the scene or what's my moment before or anything?

762
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: No?

763
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 2: Right, Like you just I just think you have that

764
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 2: same actor chip in your brain. Like it's like you're

765
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 2: really good at text obviously between Sorkin and this show,

766
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 2: like text is not an issue for you, and you're

767
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, Josh, your work in these two seasons.

768
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 2: I'm so jealous because I know you're not right like

769
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 2: my action or my objective or my like you know,

770
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 2: thinking about beats or shifts. You know, you're just there.

771
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I have a good instinct for it.

772
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 3: But the truth is what usually when I watch my work.

773
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, you were fine. I'm not. I'm not usually

774
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 3: like us, like I'm horribly insecure. But maybe if I

775
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 3: did some of those things you're saying, I'd be better

776
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 3: than that.

777
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: Maybe I know that's what makes you so good. That's

778
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: not part of your process.

779
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 2: Do you think that is? Like, I think there's some

780
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 2: effortlessness to something that's so difficult, you making it look

781
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 2: like it's so fucking easy. This is for ladies and gentlemen.

782
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 2: Josh Milina is about to be starring back on Broadway.

783
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 2: He's been on Broadway before. If you can catch him,

784
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: you should. In Leopoltstad, written by the one and only

785
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 2: fucking Tom Stoppard, I already have my tickets. I'm going

786
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 2: June tenth with eight family members.

787
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: Katie, I want to go, come.

788
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 2: With me June eighth. I'm going to see any gladiators listening.

789
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 2: Do come June eighth. I will be at Leopoltstad's screaming

790
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 2: and probably crying. It's that script is remarkable.

791
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 3: It's amazing he's write and I was seventeen, almost eighteen,

792
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 3: and my dad's best friend was and still is Manny Aisenberg.

793
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 3: This famous amazing producer who produced Tom Stoppbards is the

794
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 3: real thing on Broadway. So I got invited to Opening Night,

795
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 3: and as a seventeen year old, I was assuming that

796
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 3: I was just like the writing, like my mind, his

797
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:04,439
Speaker 3: writing is unreal. And now literally forty years later, yes,

798
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 3: I can't believe him.

799
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 2: See, this is why people keep you around.

800
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: Really quickly. Since we're talking about some pass work, I'm

801
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: gonna rattle off some of Josh's credits. Give it because

802
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: I live it this up and I was like, oh

803
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: my god, Like, there's so much and so much epic

804
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: projects that he's done. A few good men, the American President,

805
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: Tracy takes on clock Watchers with my buddy Parker Posey,

806
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: the Larry Sanders Show, Sports Night, The West Wing, Stargate,

807
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: Grey's Anatomy, I Carly and my favorite Big Bank theory

808
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: of course. But I'm also like a huge horror film fan.

809
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: And you haven't been in a harror film, but you

810
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: were in a thriller called Malice that Aaron Sorkin I

811
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: also wrote.

812
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 3: Correct, Yes, but I was in one horror movie comedy

813
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 3: called The Knights of Badass. Oh, and I think Steve

814
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 3: Zahn was in it. Peter Dinklice. It was comedy horror

815
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 3: about a bunch of Larper's live action role players.

816
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch it.

817
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 2: Tonight and I'm coming over and I'm getting stoned and

818
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: I'm watching it with you.

819
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 3: Yes, it was low budget to begin with, and then

820
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 3: they didn't get the full effects. But there's I know

821
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 3: the director is not happy with how it turned out,

822
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 3: and I spoiler alert, have my jaw ripped off as

823
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 3: I'm being pilated by a wood d well.

824
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: Listen. I went out Amazon Prime and I bought Malice

825
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: because I wanted to watch it. When I looked up

826
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: your credit, Josh plays this really cute like resident doctor

827
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: or nurse who comes out and speaks to Bill Pullman.

828
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: But it's a really fun like old school like eighties

829
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: thriller movie.

830
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 3: Well the funny. Patrick Marber, the director, when he was

831
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 3: talking to me about potentially doing the role, said, and

832
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 3: you know, it takes place in Vienna, but we've toyed

833
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 3: with doing Viennie as or German and we didn't do that.

834
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 3: And it opened in London, so you know, he said,

835
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 3: you don't have to sound British, but you can't sound America?

836
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 3: Can I do in Mexican like everyone is sounding.

837
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 2: So you're not even doing like heightened American, like like

838
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: the Gilded Age or something.

839
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 3: No, it's pretty fifty years ago. You couldn't get a

840
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 3: foot in, you couldn't travel with a.

841
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: That's really good, Josh, it's really good.

842
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 3: Thank you.

843
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 2: We will be back with more after the break now

844
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 2: that I'm trying to jog my memory about like David

845
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 2: Rosen's journey. Okay, so you auditioned for the role. Yes,

846
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: Shanda was into you. You went, got called to the

847
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 2: principal's office a few times. You had love interests with

848
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 2: Abby Portia and were you also with Artemis.

849
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 3: Yes, Artemists is lovely a Susan.

850
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: Oh and Zoey Perry.

851
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 3: And Zoe Perry and off camera didn't came. But dirty,

852
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 3: dirty Susie whatever her name is, Susie with.

853
00:39:55,520 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 2: The we didn't. When we have Shaanda back on, got

854
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 2: to ask her like, I don't think there's a single

855
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 2: character on our show that went through that many lives,

856
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,240
Speaker 2: Like what's that about?

857
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 3: For sure? That is just Seana going. I can do

858
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 3: anything on television. I can take the least attractive oldest

859
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 3: member of my past and have him have more sense

860
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 3: than I'm telling you. That's exactly what it is.

861
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: You were successfully pranked by us and the Jimmy Kimmel Show.

862
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: Remember in this episode.

863
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 2: Yes, Kimmel is in an episode two one, that's right,

864
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 2: and he's interviewing the Congressman Jacob Shaw, who's the case

865
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 2: of the Wei And we love Kimmel, but he approached us,

866
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: like by the end of Scandal, they were like, we

867
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 2: want to get Josh, and they spent so much money

868
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 2: on this prank.

869
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 3: Like, well, first of all, I had had an idea

870
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 3: and I remember pitching our pr people like Bachelor has

871
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 3: all these watch parties, and the Bachelor people show up,

872
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 3: you're surprised and they love it, like everybody's having their

873
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 3: wine and popcorn Scandal watching part parties. Why don't we

874
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 3: like surprise a few people and like maybe it's a

875
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 3: nice way to go out with the final season. And

876
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 3: they did it through Good Morning America and Tony was

877
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 3: the first and this was all part of the parts. Yeah.

878
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 3: Then they were like, Josh, you have to do one

879
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 3: of these. And I actually really didn't watch, like I

880
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 3: don't want to do it.

881
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: But it really speaks to your heart, which is as

882
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 2: much as Josh, Willie is a prankster, smartest person in

883
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 2: the room, keeps his life interesting by like really pushing

884
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 2: boundaries with people. But Josh, you with fans is ridiculous,

885
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 2: Like you give them all the time in the world.

886
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 3: You're nice to say. I mean, I you're very nice

887
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 3: to say that, and I know it comes from like

888
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 3: I can't believe anybody's having to see me, so I'm

889
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 3: like got to keep your fans happy, like so you're

890
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 3: keep in business, and like also just appreciation for people

891
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 3: who are appreciating you, Like Scandal fans are the best I

892
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 3: did enjoy.

893
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 2: So the prank was about them asking you to show

894
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: at the end of this run. You know, they asked

895
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 2: me and Josh to come to a Scandal Rocks watch

896
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 2: party and they we knew they would be watching Scandal

897
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 2: and we would walk in and it was up to

898
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 2: me to convince Josh that he should use a confetti

899
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: blower thing. And when we come in, oh god, one

900
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: of those guns a Convetti cannon.

901
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 3: I remember, we go in there watching Scandal, can see

902
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 3: and we pop in with our with our cameras. Boom,

903
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 3: I pulled the competitia and like everyone's laughing and having fun.

904
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 3: And then I see the mom in her chair like

905
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 3: it seemed really startled by the confetti cannon.

906
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: Clutching her chest hard.

907
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 3: For this and she's actually clutching her chest, and I'm

908
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 3: starting to think, like, oh that was this is bad.

909
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 3: We really we really scared this woman. Then I'm like, oh, no,

910
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 3: she's an Actually she's in medical discomfort. And I will

911
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 3: admit I was nice enough to like I definitely went

912
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 3: over and I think I held her hand and I

913
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 3: was trying to calm it down. The one thing I

914
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 3: did is also cover my ass because I'm thinking that

915
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 3: if she died, did I kill her? Is this like

916
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 3: second agreement in voluntary man slater? And you can see

917
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 3: me in the actual video of the press only.

918
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 2: Being quiet because I.

919
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 3: Can't no I'm saying, and I say to her something

920
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 3: like they handed me the thing or it wasn't my

921
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 3: I'm not going down, like I'm trying to lay down

922
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 3: my legal case for when And then next thing I know,

923
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 3: I hear I hear a siren like an ambulance has

924
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 3: been called, and I'm like, oh my god, this is

925
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 3: actually happening, and the paramedics burst through with the cot

926
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 3: but one of the paramedics is Jimmy Kimmel, and my

927
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 3: mind is like what's going on? And I'm like, wow,

928
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 3: you got me so bad. They throw me into this stretcher.

929
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 3: I'm deeply embarrassed, but also husually really that I didn't

930
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 3: kill this woman. And they wheel me outside, and unbeknownst

931
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 3: to me, they were concerned that I would not fall

932
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 3: for it, and they wanted to backup freaking prank. So

933
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 3: there's a fire engine in the driveway and I get

934
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 3: sit up and they blast me with those from.

935
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 2: Like what oh, yeah, they blasted him with a fire

936
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 2: hole the old lady actress. I had been there all

937
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 2: day rehearsing for like three hours, like different ways the

938
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 2: scene could go. I have never done a prank in

939
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 2: my entire life. I am so wildly uncomfortable with making

940
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 2: people upset or feel bad or like pranking to me

941
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: is like I'm.

942
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: One of those people that gives it up right away.

943
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm just kidding, this is we're just joking.

944
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 2: So then I remember the garage door slowly opening and

945
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 2: there's like video village is in there, and we all

946
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 2: have earbuds in like all the actors in a scene

947
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 2: the older woman who pretend to have a heart attack me,

948
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 2: we had earbuds in case. The director was like, oh, I.

949
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 3: Never even thought about that.

950
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: Oh, it was insane. They spent like a billion dollars.

951
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 2: It was insane. And also I remember before we did

952
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 2: it are publicist. I think it was Chris Anderson at

953
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: the time calling me and saying, do you know if

954
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: Josh has ever had a heart attack or if someone

955
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 2: recently that he loves has had a heart attack, Because

956
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 2: we want to do this, but we also like, I

957
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 2: don't want it to go horribly awry in case it

958
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: like God, we don't know, like maybe his aunt or

959
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 2: someone just had a heart attack and he's just gonna

960
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: be that's actually very still unwell.

961
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 3: And I remember thinking afterwards I wish I had been

962
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 3: on to what they were doing. If I had figured

963
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 3: it out, I could have then pretended myself to have

964
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 3: a heart attack and see if I could flip.

965
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 2: Survived it. I would not have.

966
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 1: The best Oh.

967
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 3: Ever, but unfortunately it turns out that the fact that

968
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 3: you do practical jokes and pranks for thirty years doesn't

969
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 3: mean that you're any less galible than anybody else. Because

970
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 3: I felt for it completely. I remember actually texting Kimmel

971
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 3: when I was going to bed that night and I

972
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 3: was like, well done, and he rubbed back me like

973
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 3: was that real? Did you really fall for that? Like

974
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 3: he actually almost couldn't leave it. I was like, dude,

975
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 3: that was one hundred percent, But how.

976
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 2: Could you not? That wasn't just like a run of

977
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 2: the mill fucking thing. I mean that was like actors

978
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 2: who would.

979
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 3: Rehearse if we were doing the drop in for Kimmel's

980
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 3: you would have known America. My mind was prank, but

981
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 3: I don't think good morning America. Nothing occurred.

982
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: I lovely you have Kimmel's phone number. Fucking Katie has

983
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: Seanda Rhyme's phone.

984
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 2: Number, Kim's phone number, his number? Wait really quickly about

985
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 2: this episode? What was the parts you watched last night

986
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 2: that you thought you were uh yeah.

987
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 3: In the courtroom. I have memories of shooting this episode

988
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 3: because it was a lot of me, and it was

989
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of people sitting well, I

990
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 3: strut around doing things, and part of it was literally vocally,

991
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't sound like you want to

992
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 3: you know when you're like and isn't it true you

993
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 3: want to be one of those you say, what the hell?

994
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 2: You keep saying what the hell when they let Quinn

995
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 2: in this episode to jog all of your listener's memory.

996
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 2: This is the episode where who was Quinn Perkins? Who

997
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 2: was Quinn Perkins? But wait, okay, so you thought your

998
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 2: acting was bad? You say what the hell a lot?

999
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 2: What did you feel like when you read this script?

1000
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 2: Not about this episode where Darby to put her hand

1001
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,959
Speaker 2: in your mouth or you're something like that.

1002
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 3: I felt very similarly to the way I felt when

1003
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 3: I finally watched it. I was like, I don't know

1004
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 3: what's going on? Is this supposed to be sexy? Is

1005
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 3: this some sort of BDSM? Is this horrible hot? I

1006
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 3: read it, we shot it, I watched it, and I

1007
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 3: still never figured out what it was.

1008
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 2: Josh, I can't okay, wait wait wait wait, there's more.

1009
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 2: There's more, this more, okay. This is the first episode

1010
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 2: that marked both bellmy Young and Josh Molina a series regulars.

1011
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 2: You guys went to Yale, but not at the same time.

1012
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 3: She is younger than I, so she she knew who

1013
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 3: I was.

1014
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 2: She did not?

1015
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 3: She did no, I think, because I think we were

1016
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 3: actually maybe in guys and dollars together. The idea that

1017
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 3: she may have had a smaller role or been in

1018
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 3: the ensemble and I had to lead. It's funny because

1019
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:51,919
Speaker 3: I can't sing and she has a beautiful voice.

1020
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 1: Did you do a ton of plays in college? Josh,

1021
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 1: I did.

1022
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm an undergraduate theater Saudi's major. Every now and

1023
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 3: then people think like, oh, you went to Yale drama school.

1024
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I went to the other one and

1025
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 3: was a drama mate. I went to the not because

1026
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 3: they just drama school, but I knew I wanted to

1027
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 3: be an acro already, and my parents were like, for

1028
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 3: the love of God, get a college degree.

1029
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 2: Also, what it was your degree in intert It's.

1030
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 3: Not like it didn't help me at all with acting

1031
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 3: and wouldn't have helped me in anything else.

1032
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: Do you remember what the first play was that you did?

1033
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 3: There, I do? I did. Christopher Durang's sister, Mary Ignatius

1034
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 3: explains it all.

1035
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: Wow.

1036
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 2: Do you have any memories from the first two seasons

1037
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: that stick out? Do you have any memories from the pilot?

1038
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 3: I remember shooting those scenes at the door with Kerry

1039
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 3: and seen in a bar with Kerry. Most of my

1040
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 3: stuff was with Kerry, and I just remember liking her

1041
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 3: a lot, like like I just remember vibing like she's

1042
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,479
Speaker 3: cool first of all, Like whenever the number one person

1043
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 3: on the call tot is cool, it's like, yeah, this

1044
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 3: is a very good sign.

1045
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 2: Did you feel like at the end of season one,

1046
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 2: like we're definitely going to get a season too. Did

1047
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 2: you feel like it would have was going to be

1048
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty four episode's show.

1049
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 3: I just remember early on thinking it was a procedural approach,

1050
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 3: and procedurals, if they hit.

1051
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: They last a long time.

1052
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, they last a long time, and they're they they're

1053
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 3: worth a lot in syndication because you can play them

1054
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 3: in any order and it doesn't matter, and people can

1055
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 3: pop in and watch a rerun or whatever. And then

1056
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 3: once it started turning into this insane show that was

1057
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 3: burning through plot, I was like, oh my god, this

1058
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 3: episode has as much plot as a full season of

1059
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 3: another show Like this cannot sustain. So I started getting nervous.

1060
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 3: Even as the show is getting better and more interesting

1061
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 3: and crazy and it was fun, I was like, this

1062
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,240
Speaker 3: is gonna this might be a death sentence.

1063
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 2: We'd already shot the president by like the thirteenth episode

1064
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 2: in and it's like, what the fuck are we gonna do?

1065
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 3: No, exactly, I underestimated the fiendish creative mind of Shanda

1066
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 3: Rhimes and her writers because like they never had any

1067
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 3: problem coming up with seven plots per episode that were

1068
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 3: completely insane and like, oh, they can keep this running

1069
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 3: as long as they want, like this is why I'm

1070
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 3: not a writer and they But then I also remember

1071
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 3: when it was like taking off on Twitter and I

1072
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 3: was like again literally like butterflies in my stomach, like

1073
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 3: I think this may be turning into a thing, like

1074
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 3: everybody's talking about it and people are stopping me in

1075
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 3: the street, Like it really was a fun ride with

1076
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 3: an incredible group of people, like to get one of

1077
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 3: those in the careers, like more than you can hope for.

1078
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: I remember thinking, is this gonna be like a Grays

1079
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: and Atomy situation? Like are we gonna go for like twelve

1080
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: thirteen seasons? And then you know, obviously Shanda knew there

1081
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: was a beginning of the middle and an end to

1082
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 1: the to the show, and she let us know that

1083
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: it was ending. But I think we were all so bummed,

1084
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: right because the network wanted us to keep going. I

1085
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: was like, wait, what I know.

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Speaker 3: I was definitely. I even remember as Shonda was telling

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Speaker 3: us in the conference call, like that she's ending it.

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Speaker 3: I was text neighbor and we're like, god.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you were texting me like oh yeah, like how

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Speaker 2: could you we have the white whale, we have the

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Speaker 2: fucking white hat. Yeah, You're the best. I'm so excited

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Speaker 2: to see you and leopoldstadd Yeah, this was.

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Speaker 3: So much fun. I realized how much I miss you.

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Speaker 3: When I don't see you, I don't miss you at all.

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Speaker 3: But now that I'm seeing you, I really I was like, oh,

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Speaker 3: I do like them more than I realized. To our gladiators,

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00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 3: I haven't earned a dime since the show went off there,

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Speaker 3: but thank you for that brief window in my life

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Speaker 3: when I didn't have to worry about money for like

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Speaker 3: five years. It's awesome. It's all because of you, guys.

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Speaker 1: Josh, you are the best.

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Speaker 2: We love you.

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Speaker 3: Love you, guys.

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Speaker 2: Tell George we love him and we'll be bugging him asap.

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00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 3: I'll tell him he's not on the show.

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Speaker 2: Tweeted, tweety tweeted, lidd tweet tweet, tweet, tweet tweet tweet.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, people were fucking pumped from these tweets

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Speaker 2: because this was the fucking season two premiere at ABC.

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Speaker 2: Scandal fans tweeted so ready for at Scandal babyc premiere

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Speaker 2: hashtag one minute, don't hate hashtag ask Scandal.

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Speaker 1: And Lisa Belenoir tweeted homemade coconut shrimp hashtag I'm fancy

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Speaker 1: retweet call me Dalla what y'all bring into the Scandal

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Speaker 1: watch party? So she made some coconut shrimp and brought

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Speaker 1: it to a Scandal watch party.

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Speaker 2: A Yem at Everybody Loves DJ wrote, I'm ready to

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Speaker 2: find out who the hell Quinn is tonight hashtag scandal.

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Speaker 1: Ug real y'all two underscore Tall says what the fuck

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Speaker 1: is Quinn Perkins? Hashtag scandal, hashtag gladiators and suits.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's talking about Quinn at Chrissy B. Davis wrote, I

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Speaker 2: had so many thoughts as to who Quinn could be.

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Speaker 2: We'll be happy to finally find out tonight hashtag scandal.

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Speaker 1: I like that, And then Aaron at Aaron J. Cruz tweeted,

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Speaker 1: who of the Scandal cast is the most like the

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00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: character they play? Hashtag asked scandal. That's when we were

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Speaker 1: doing that hashtag ask scandal and then we would, you know,

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Speaker 1: answer as many questions as we could.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we did hashtag as Scandal forever.

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Speaker 1: Who do you think is most like the character that

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Speaker 1: they play? Fucking I think Carrie Washington as Olivia.

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Speaker 2: I think so too in some ways. In some ways

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Speaker 2: she's Olivia is not goofy, right, and Carrie's got a

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Speaker 2: lot of Olivia popiner. I think I and Quinn have

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Speaker 2: a lot of starting. I think Josh Molina and David

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Speaker 2: Rosen have some stuff.

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Speaker 1: Everybody has a little bit of you don't characters? I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, in the in the being quiet and sometimes

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00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: wanting to be alone. I could see that being you know,

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Speaker 1: similar to myself and talk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but how can you literally make your voice and

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00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 2: the mask of your face different?

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00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Like you do.

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00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 2: Things as your face is gear mode that you don't

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00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,479
Speaker 2: do on your face as huck.

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00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: That's so true. That's so true.

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00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 2: Like you have a mask that actually like changes, which

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00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 2: is fucking amazing to behold. The next episode is called

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Speaker 2: Grant for the People.

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Speaker 1: The People.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember what the fuck happens. I have no idea,

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Speaker 2: but y'all are going to want to listen and stay

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Speaker 2: tuned because you know it's going to be a good time.

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Speaker 1: We gotta go watch it now so we're ready for

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Speaker 1: the next episode of this podcast.

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Speaker 2: Any Gladiators that don't think Josh Willene is hot enough

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Speaker 2: to have a sex scene leave him alone.

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Speaker 1: He's so hot, I think. I think Josh super se

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Speaker 1: I do too.

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00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 2: Also, I'm so jealous that he's going to have lunch

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Speaker 2: right now with George Newburn of The Century City.

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Speaker 1: Mall, we should go crash that ship right now.

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Speaker 2: He invited us. Did you get that text?

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00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: No, I haven't even looked at my phone because we're

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Speaker 1: doing a podcast.

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00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 2: He texted us yesterday saying, Yo, I'm not sure what

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Speaker 2: time you guys stop recording, but I'm going to have

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Speaker 2: lunch with George Newburn if you both like to come.

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Speaker 1: Oh I didn't get that.

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Speaker 2: But whatever, we didn't want to go anyway.

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Speaker 4: That shit is yeah, yeah, but yo, Josh is so

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Speaker 4: freaking smart and talented and fun to talk to, Like

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00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 4: we could have done this for like three more hours.

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Speaker 1: I know, he's so much fun. I love all.

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Speaker 2: He's the best, and he really was an important energy

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Speaker 2: on Skin.

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Speaker 1: He really was important. He has so many great episodes

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Speaker 1: where his work is superstellar, so we're definitely going to

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Speaker 1: have him back.

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Speaker 2: Yes. Absolutely. I love you all so much. Thank you

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Speaker 2: for listening.

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Speaker 1: Thank you everyone, Thank you guys for joining us on

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Speaker 1: Unpacking the Toolbox. If you enjoyed the show, please subscribe,

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Speaker 1: share with your friends, rate, or leave us a review.

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Speaker 2: Scandal is executive produced by Sandy Bailey, alex Alce, Lauren Homan,

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Speaker 2: Tyler Klang, and Gabrielle Collins. Our producer and editor is

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Speaker 2: Vince de Johnny, with music by Chad Fisher.

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Speaker 1: Scandal is a production of ABC Signature, and you can

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Speaker 1: follow along by rewatching Scandal on Hulu.

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