1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: This is Fox Sports Countdown. We're setting you up for 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: the sports weekend and covering all the action from the 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: stadiums to the arenas. This is this is Fox Sports Countdown, 4 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: the King of Sports Box. The countdown starts not a 5 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: line from the ti iraq dot com Fox Sports Radio studios. 6 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: Here's Brian no, Rich Hornberger and Jared Smith. 7 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: Oh, good morning, welcome in here as we start a 8 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: new era. 9 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 3: That's right, rebranded its Countdown. There's no kickoff right now, sadly, 10 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 3: no no. 11 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 4: Football playing in Finland today. Collegiate football in Finland today. 12 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 4: If you want some, you gotta you gotta line on that. 13 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 5: I do action. You know what, I'll take thunder. Yeah, 14 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 5: I just have a feelingly Yeah yeah. 15 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 2: Weather is going to play a big factor today, guys man, Yeah, 16 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: you know, and uh listen, not to start off on 17 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 2: a grim foot. But I'm back home in Indiana. My 18 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: uncle Jerry passed away earlier this week. Yeah, thank you. 19 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: But so when I'm home, I'll go to my mom's house. 20 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 2: And I don't know what it is with her internet, 21 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: but it's it's been consistent for quite a while. And 22 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 2: I got to fill in with Jeff Schwartz yesterday on 23 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: two pros and it was a little, a little squirrely, 24 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: you know, so I had to I had to go 25 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: to another spot over here. And uh, I love it 26 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 2: because bo Bo Benz and our trusted producer is like, 27 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: look at the scholarly background right there. It's like we 28 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: got plash or stuff. Yeah, weaber state graduate over here. 29 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: I happen to be wearing a collared shirt cause I 30 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: just grabbed something this morning. 31 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 3: I I look sophisticated, Do I not fellas? 32 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 6: Huh yeah, yeah, there is uh, there is a regal 33 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 6: quality to Brian know this morning. 34 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: Goodness, gracious, hold, I appreciate that our trusted technical producer 35 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: Chris Burffett has something. 36 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, Jared, I like the professor no thing. But doctor 37 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:11,839 Speaker 7: No was sitting right there. 38 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 5: Oh it was yeah, that's our fault. 39 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 2: That's our fault, James Bond, Right, Doctor, I had teachers 40 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 2: that used to call me that way back in the day. 41 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 7: Doctor. It was probably a popular movie that was right 42 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 7: around the. 43 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: Time, right yeah maybe yeah, Like all right, so let's 44 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: dive in. We'll get to the hoops and all that 45 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 2: good stuff here. Huge game Bama hosting Auburn will break 46 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 2: that one down. 47 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,399 Speaker 3: For sure, and some other of the the goodies. 48 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: But we got to start with the Super Bowl, man, 49 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 2: because that was the last show we did leading up 50 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: to the game. And wow, wow, who expected that game 51 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 2: to go the way it did. I don't know anyone, 52 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 2: anybody I heard taking Philly was still like last second 53 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: field goal, you know, it's like by just the slimmest 54 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 2: of margins, and you look up and the Eagles had 55 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: twenty four points at halftime and the Chiefs had fourteen yards. 56 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 2: If you would have told me that's what would happen, 57 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: I'd be like, you don't know football at all. 58 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 3: There's just no way, And that's exactly what happened. 59 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm shocked that Mahomes looked drunk in the 60 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: first half, Shocked that the Chiefs were as just sloppy 61 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 2: as they were beating themselves. And hats off to Philly men. 62 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: They were dominant, especially in that first half. That was 63 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: crazy to me. 64 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 6: There was no answer to the problems that the Eagles 65 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 6: were posing the Kansas City Chiefs, which was basically upfront 66 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 6: on the defensive line. Our guys are better than your guys, 67 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 6: prove us wrong. And throughout the course of the entire game. 68 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 6: The Chiefs did not make the adjustments in their pass 69 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 6: protection to give Mahomes enough time to operate. 70 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 5: And there are ways to mitigate. 71 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 6: A great defensive line, and for whatever reason, the Chiefs 72 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 6: didn't make those adjustments. Certainly not soon enough, but not 73 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 6: with any sort of effectiveness they were getting. And when 74 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 6: I say they the tight ends, the offensive lineman, the 75 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 6: running backs were involved in the past protection scheme against 76 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 6: what ultimately was a four sometimes three man rush of 77 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 6: the Philadelphia Eagles. 78 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:26,799 Speaker 5: They were getting home. 79 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 6: Almost every single passing play, somebody was putting a hand 80 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 6: on Mahomes. 81 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 5: Mahomes was running for his life. 82 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 6: He was trying to get the ball out of his 83 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 6: hands as quickly as possible, causing turnovers. They didn't have 84 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 6: an answer to that problem, and as a result, they 85 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 6: lost the game in hideous fashion. 86 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think if there was going to be a 87 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 4: blowout in the game, I think we actually discussed it. 88 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 7: It made more sense on the Eagle side. Yeah, because 89 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 7: of just the way that the Chiefs had played this year. 90 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 7: I don't think they blowed out anyone this year. They 91 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 7: It's just not there. This is not their style. 92 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 4: The irony is if you actually Now I know this 93 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 4: sounds crazy, but the Chiefs actually won a decent portion 94 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 4: of the box score. 95 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 7: They won yards per play, they won the success rate. 96 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 7: What did they not win? Turnovers and penalties? 97 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: And did they win first downs? Tell me they won 98 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: first downs? 99 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 5: Oh? 100 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 7: They the Chiefs did not win first out. 101 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 3: I thought there was an accounting era that error. 102 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, that was one of the bigger bets I 103 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 4: made in the game. But the turnover battle was so 104 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 4: unique because it was like it was like Mahomes was 105 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 4: almost drunk, and my cousin, who's a big you know, 106 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 4: football He's like, did he get concussed? And I was like, well, 107 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 4: I didn't even think about that, because he did kind 108 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 4: of take a big hit early in the game, and 109 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 4: a couple of the throws later in the game were 110 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 4: just so anti Mahomes, like like, you know, the one 111 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 4: to the gene on the pick six was like it 112 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 4: was like he was right there, Like how do you 113 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 4: not see him? 114 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 7: And you just have to. 115 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 4: Tip your captains, like there's really nothing more to in 116 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 4: the game other than Philly bludgeon them. And and at 117 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 4: some point Kansas City, I think realized this probably wasn't 118 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 4: going to be our night, and then they got a 119 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 4: little bit desperate. Mahomes probably got a little bit desperate, 120 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 4: a little bit you know, trigger happy with some of 121 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 4: the throws, and he was under drest the entire night. 122 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 4: And and it goes back to two Super Bowls that 123 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 4: I can recall. 124 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 7: The first one was that first Patriots Giants one where. 125 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 4: It was just the front four, you minor and straight 126 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 4: hand talking, and it was just it was it was complete, 127 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 4: you know, chaos for Brady in that game. And then 128 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 4: the second one, the other Brady one, where he just 129 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 4: got completely pummeled by the Bucks defensive line or excuse me, 130 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 4: when when the Bucks beat the Chiefs the first game 131 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 4: that Mahomes had a chance and kind of looked bad 132 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 4: in the Super Bowl. So now this is two really 133 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 4: ugly Super Bowl performances for Patrick Mahomes. And yeah, you 134 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 4: just got to credit the front four and the offensive line. 135 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 4: And that's why the trench warfare is a big deal 136 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 4: in this sport, especially in a one game roll of 137 00:06:58,760 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 4: the dice. 138 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and that was the thing, the pick six. 139 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 2: It was ten to nothing at that point and Mahomes 140 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 2: was acting like these are the last this is the 141 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: last two minutes of the game and he's got to 142 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: make something happen. It's go for broke time. It's like, 143 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 2: it's still the first half. You know, if you have 144 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: to punt, not the end of the world. He just 145 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: forced one and that did not work out whatsoever. Many 146 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 2: they could not have looked worse. He could not have 147 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: looked worse in that first half and the third and three. 148 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: Early in the game, Kelsey's wide open and the balls 149 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: thrown at his feet. 150 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 3: I'm like, who is this guy? 151 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: Did you remember the commercial where Tom Brady like fell 152 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 2: asleep and they had to replace the batteries in his forearm. Yeah, 153 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: that was mahomes mahomes like and they never replaced his batteries. 154 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: That was his performance. And it's funny because we are 155 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 2: on the same page mostly Jared. Where the two Super 156 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: Bowls that I thought of immediately? It was the prash 157 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: in Super Bowl forty two that the Giants got on 158 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: Tom Brady and the Patriots. 159 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 3: Remember that was before the game. Plexico Burus was like, yeah, I. 160 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: Think we're gonna win twenty three seventeen, and Tom Brady's like, 161 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: We're only gonna score seventeen points. 162 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 3: They scored fourteen. 163 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 2: You know, like the pressure had a huge impact on 164 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 2: that game. And the other one was Super Bowl fifty 165 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 2: five compared to this last one where Mahomes was just 166 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 2: under duress. The thing was, Mahomes played great against Tampa. 167 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: He had Mike Evans miked up on the sideline. He's like, 168 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 2: this guy keeps making place. He's throwing like dimes on 169 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 2: the run falling down. He individually played great. So that's 170 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: the thing. Mahomes has faced pressure before, he's faced pass rushes, 171 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: he's gotten knocked around before, and he's played great. 172 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 3: He was freaking terrible last. 173 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 2: Sunday against Philly Man he had no answers and that's 174 00:08:59,120 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: shocking to me. 175 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: He's a special quarterback, he is. 176 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 5: And it was shocking. 177 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 6: And I'll say this about any quarterback when you are 178 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 6: faced with as much pressure as he was faced with 179 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 6: in that game, and the team can still the team 180 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 6: you're facing can still drop eight defenders and seven defenders 181 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 6: and they're not manufacturing that pressure by adding rushers. What 182 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 6: happens is when you throw to those zones that are 183 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 6: typically open, because when you're rushing five, that means you're 184 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 6: dropping six, and when you drop six into coverage, you 185 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 6: have less people to cover more field. But when you 186 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 6: can drop seven, when you can drop eight, all of 187 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 6: a sudden, guys are in spots that you're not expecting 188 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 6: them to be, especially when you're simulating pressure, which is 189 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 6: something that Vic Fangio I tip my cap to him. 190 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 6: There was some confusion. There were times where based on 191 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 6: the pre snap alignment, it looked like the Philadelphia Eagles 192 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 6: were rushing five and six defenders, and all of a sudden, 193 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 6: Mahomes felt pressure. 194 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 5: So his assumption in times was, oh, they must be 195 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 5: rushing five. 196 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 6: I know who I'm hot with, which means the receiver 197 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 6: who he throws to. 198 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 5: If there's a free rusher off of this side, I 199 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 5: know where to go with the ball. 200 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 6: Well, the problem was based on the protection rules, the 201 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 6: offensive line protection rules. There was a free rusher sometimes, 202 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 6: but the Eagles were only rushing four guys. So you 203 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 6: have seven, you have seven zone droppers. You have safeties 204 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 6: sometimes three of them with their backs to the goalposts 205 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 6: staring down Mahomes. And on that Cooper dejen interception, I mean, 206 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 6: it couldn't have been more easy for him because he 207 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 6: paid attention to his drop depth, he kept his eyes 208 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 6: on Mahomes. He realized he was under pressure, and he 209 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 6: jumped route that he's not supposed to jump in that situation, 210 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 6: but he knew where he was going with. 211 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 5: The football because he had nowhere else to go. 212 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 6: When you force good quarterbacks into being predictable, they look 213 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 6: like bad quarterbacks. And that's what vic Fan and Joe's 214 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 6: defense did all night long against Patrick Mahomes. 215 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, there was not It wasn't a great game plan. 216 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 4: It wasn't a great change up, like there was no 217 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 4: run game. It was it was a very I don't 218 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 4: want to say boring game, but there was really not 219 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 4: a lot of intrigue after the first half. Like you 220 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 4: just you thought maybe there was a glimmer, like a 221 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 4: door creaked open for Mahomes at one point to make 222 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 4: some kind of insane comeback, But there was really no 223 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 4: moment in the second half either where that gained any 224 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 4: momentum like they had like the Xavier Worthy touchdown, like 225 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 4: they had a couple of moments in the game, but 226 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 4: there was no real momentum towards the comeback. I mean 227 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 4: it was the field was tilted in one direction the 228 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 4: entire night, and you tip your cap toove Philly and 229 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 4: and now we you know, hear all the fallout right 230 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 4: coming into the game. It was the three peat, now 231 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 4: it was now it's the fallout because now it's kind 232 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 4: of funny how the pendulum in our sports media society 233 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 4: just swings like the Chiefs were this jugger. Now people 234 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 4: were lining up in droves to bet the Chiefs because 235 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,359 Speaker 4: they thought a the game was rigged and be Mahomes 236 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 4: is god. Now it's like the Chiefs are terrible. Get 237 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 4: them out, throw the baby out with. 238 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 7: The back ward like it's so crazy. In a minute, 239 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 7: it switches. 240 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,719 Speaker 3: It's such an overreaction. It's ridiculous. 241 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: Man. 242 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: Like we'll get to that a little bit later in 243 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: the show because I would like to rant, Oh I 244 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 2: love please. 245 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,599 Speaker 4: Rant for both of us, because that's it's insane. You 246 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 4: would think Mahomes was like like a sub B prime player. 247 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 7: Now I know he's done. It's over. 248 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 2: It's turned into like, ah, they're the Texans maybe. 249 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 3: Going forward, the Jets. 250 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 2: Come on, it's the Chiefs, it's Mahomes, it's Andy Reid. 251 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 2: Like they're not gonna be what seven and ten team 252 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 2: next season? Like they're gonna be a problem consistently. Yeah, 253 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 2: they've got to upgrade and retool in some areas, but 254 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 2: I thought I just put a bow on the on 255 00:12:59,240 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 2: this too. 256 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 3: So far. 257 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 2: Is what you're saying, Rich, is that's when you see 258 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 2: a defense really working together, meaning the pass rush helping 259 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 2: out the secondary, the secondary helping out the pass rush. 260 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 3: They're just cooking with grease. 261 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 2: Because if you think about it, if you look at 262 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 2: the Eagles corners, they have some good corners. You know, 263 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 2: Quinyon Mitchell had a really good rookie season, Cooper Dejen 264 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: really good rookie season. You got Darius big Play Sleigh 265 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 2: out there, and they're like, what chiefs receivers are. 266 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 3: Gonna beat us? Exactly? 267 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 2: You know, we don't need to double anybody. And then 268 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 2: the pass rush with the front four was getting home. 269 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 2: You're just there were no answers right there, none, And 270 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 2: that's why we got the beatdown we got. It makes 271 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: sense after the fact, you can explain it. But going 272 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 2: into the game, if somebody had told you, hey, here's 273 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 2: what's gonna happen, but bob ba, bob, but bob Abo, 274 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 2: you'd be like, you're out of your freaking mind, right, 275 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 2: And that's exactly what happened. All right, We've got Rich Hornberger, Pence, 276 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 2: They all American. Jared Smith FSR betting analyst, I'm Brian No. 277 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 2: Use code Countdown at BETMGM and receive up to fifteen 278 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 2: hundred dollars back in bonus bets if you don't win 279 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 2: your first bet. 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Okay, 305 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 2: for the second year in a row, there was an 306 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 2: epic comeback in Rapid Fire and an epic choke job 307 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 2: in Rapid Fire. And unfortunately I was on the good 308 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 2: end last year. I was on the wrong end this 309 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 2: year because I had rich you and I had a 310 00:15:55,280 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 2: lead on Jared so large you needed binoculars to look 311 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 2: back and be like, what is it? I swear that's 312 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 2: like a rock on the sidewalk, But no, that's Jared. 313 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 3: Jared's all the way back. He came all the way 314 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 3: back and caught me. 315 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 2: The last two weeks, we make three picks leading up 316 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl, and well, I made two college 317 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 2: basketball picks at one one lost because of a three 318 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: pointer at the buzzer. My team was up by six 319 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 2: Michigan was up six at Rutgers and they were minus 320 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 2: five and a half. Here comes Rutgers three in your face. 321 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 2: And that led to Jared catching me by half a point, 322 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 2: and so I had. 323 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 3: This epic collapse. 324 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 2: Jared was six and oh, shout out to him the 325 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 2: last two weeks, and he caught me by half a point. 326 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 2: And so I have to do the uh, I have 327 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 2: to do the Will Levis with the mayo and the coffee. 328 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 5: Horrible news, unfortunate. Whenever you plan on doing that, I'll 329 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 5: be right there next to you. 330 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, we got years of back block mayo. 331 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 5: We'll do it. 332 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 3: I was gonna do it today. I was gonna pay 333 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 3: it off. 334 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 7: To get it over with. That's why I like you 335 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 7: get it over with. 336 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 3: Well, we'll plan on next week, Rich, We'll do fantastic. Yeah. 337 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 4: Can we get a little round of applause by the 338 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 4: by the crew and everyone. 339 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 7: What's that the you know sound effect for the six 340 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 7: six and oh? Super Bowls? Pretty good? That's pretty good. 341 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 5: That's pretty good. 342 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 4: After a terrible year by your boy gambling on these college. 343 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 2: Games and it's like all these you won, you got 344 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 2: these pretty comfortably. Where your six picks you had Johan 345 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 2: Dotson to have a receiving yard did more. 346 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 3: Than a couple of nice catches in that game. 347 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 4: How about that first touchdown co seventy five to one 348 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 4: for first touchdown. 349 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 2: They got really robbed so close, right, Can you imagine 350 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 2: doing Wood's fist pumps thinking you hit your seventy five. 351 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 4: To one new one was thinking that, let's review that 352 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 4: down and then the old push push. 353 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, uh but yeah, Jared killed it. 354 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 3: I I did not. 355 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 2: The funny one one of the Super Bowl bets that 356 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 2: was close was Mahomes over thirty five and a half 357 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 2: passing attempts, and gamescript wise, it couldn't have played out better. 358 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, I didn't not get there. 359 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 2: They're getting crushed in the first half and so it's 360 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 2: just gonna be pass past past past pass in the 361 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 2: second half. And the funny thing was they got the 362 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 2: ball back around midfield late and instead of kind of 363 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 2: like dinking and dunking down the field, he threw the 364 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 2: bomb to Xavier Worthy. It was a one play drive 365 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 2: and he ended with thirty two passing attempts. 366 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 3: I needed four more, which we were We were close, man, 367 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:49,719 Speaker 3: before halftime. 368 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 2: If that completion of DeAndre Hopkins occurs right, He's wide open, 369 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 2: nobody is around him, and it wasn't a great throw. 370 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 2: It was certainly not a great catch. 371 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 3: Tripped over himself. If that ball is completed, we might 372 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 3: have gotten there. 373 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 2: It's crazy that these props come down to stuff like that, 374 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 2: where it literally could go one direction or the other 375 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 2: based on one little play. 376 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 7: It's crazy. 377 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 5: Right here. 378 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,959 Speaker 6: On Fox Sports Radio the Sunday Show, we had an 379 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 6: extended show leading up to Super Bowl fifty nine, and 380 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 6: right before we got off the air for the. 381 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 5: First touchdown scorer Steve Hartman, he asked me. 382 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 6: He was like, look, I just got a text from 383 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 6: my kids and my ex wife. They want to know 384 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 6: who's scoring the first cutch sound. 385 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 4: He's like, I don't know any alimony with the first touchdown, Beton. 386 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 6: And so he asked me, and I go, look, it's 387 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 6: gonna be Jaellen Hurts with a toush push. I was like, 388 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 6: book it call yeah, And all of a sudden, I'm like, well, 389 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 6: I guess I was wrong. That was a nice grab. 390 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 6: And then all of a sudden they're like, ooh, he's 391 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 6: down by this much. I'm like, oh my goodness. I 392 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 6: was like, toush push activated. 393 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 5: I love it. It's amazing though, and it's amazing. 394 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 6: Look when you have a play that automatic, I mean, 395 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 6: credit to the Eagles for making the transition from Kelsey 396 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 6: to oh I'm blanking on his name now, but the 397 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 6: backup center to Kelsey last year. 398 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 5: Who's become the starter this year? Juriggons, thank you. 399 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 6: Yeah, Jurgens, Cam Jurgens and Jalen Hurts are on the 400 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 6: same page. That play is just as effective this year 401 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 6: as it was last year. And so I mean the Eagles, 402 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 6: they just have an automatic one or sometimes two yards 403 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 6: in their pocket whenever they need it. That makes games 404 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 6: really really difficult to defend when you're playing against them. 405 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think in our recap of the Super 406 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 4: Bowl in our first segment there you know a lot 407 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 4: of obvious negative to Kansas City, and there needs to be. 408 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 4: I mean, they did not play their best game. But 409 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 4: you know now that we can kind of zoom out 410 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 4: a little bit what Howie Roseman's done and what the 411 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 4: Eagles were able to construct. I mean that roster is 412 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 4: just insane, Like it is an absurd roster. What they've 413 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 4: been able to do the way that they I don't 414 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 4: want to say they're cheating, but like the manipulation of 415 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 4: the salary cap with how they kind of extend contracts 416 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 4: and kind of make things a little bit more palatable 417 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 4: to bring in some of these star players on you know, 418 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 4: unique deals. I don't even know how it works half 419 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 4: the time, but Howie Roseman figured out a way to 420 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 4: kind of get all of these pieces together. And the 421 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 4: trenches are just insane, like the fact that Philly can 422 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 4: just continue to own the line of scrimmage with what 423 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 4: they're able to do defensively. And then of course the 424 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 4: tush push and the offensive line which is just in 425 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 4: like my Lotta and and and Johnson, like they're just 426 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 4: ridiculously athletic tackles. And I don't know if they're gonna 427 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 4: to keep all these guys together. But Howie Roseman, he 428 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 4: heard he took a little knock yesterday on the head 429 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 4: during the parade. 430 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 3: I hope he's okay, Ali, I hope all right, But. 431 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 7: I don't go to the hospital the stitches or something. 432 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 4: But just you know, tip of the cap to him, 433 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 4: because that roster physically dominated the football game, and I 434 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 4: think all year long they were two and two. 435 00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 7: They were a two and two football team. 436 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 4: They were going through some iss with Fangio and the defense, 437 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,479 Speaker 4: getting that defense to kind of come together. 438 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 7: But man, did they really turn it on. 439 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 4: And it was It's a testament to everyone in that 440 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 4: front office and you know, the you know, the staff 441 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 4: that that that scouts, the personnel. I mean, they really 442 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 4: are doing it at a different level right now with 443 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 4: their with their with their front office. 444 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 3: It's officially a Philly party. 445 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 2: If the GM gets smacked in the forehead by a beer, 446 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 2: can you know, it's awesome. 447 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, he took one for the team right there. 448 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 2: And that's the last thing I'll say real quick and 449 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 2: we'll get to the college hoops is. It blows my 450 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 2: mind that Philly was that dominant and Saquon Barkley didn't 451 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 2: do that much at all. Think about that right Like 452 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 2: he was bottled up running the ball. He had a 453 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 2: nice catch down the sideline near the goal line. He 454 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 2: made his presence known in the passing game a bit, 455 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 2: but he's under sixty yards rushing. The Chiefs take that 456 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 2: all day, you know, and the Chiefs were still nowhere close. 457 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 2: That's that's wild. It played out that way. Let's get 458 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: to this. It reminds me of college football. You know, 459 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 2: you'll notice a consistent theme as we transition more to 460 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 2: like basketball season, football finds its way in somehow, some way. Right, 461 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 2: we've got number one Auburn against number two Alabama. It 462 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 2: reminds me of the old school nineteen ninety three Game 463 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 2: of the Century, right, Florida State against Notre Dame, number 464 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 2: one versus number two? 465 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 3: Does that not remind you of this? 466 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: Huh one versus Maybe it's just me, I don't know, 467 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 2: But how about these offenses here? 468 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 3: You've got the number one and number. 469 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 2: Two teams in offensive efficiency and eighty points scored in 470 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 2: college hoops? Pretty good. Auburn has done it eighteen times 471 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 2: this season. Alabama has done it twenty one times this 472 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 2: season where they've cracked eighty. That's the best in Division One. 473 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 2: And look, man, I expect a lot of points today. 474 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 2: I'm surprised that total hasn't moved a whole lot. It 475 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: is high, man, it's what one seventy one and a half? 476 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 2: One seventy two and a half, And by I expect 477 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 2: points here. I don't know if the rest of the 478 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 2: betting community is. But what do you guys see? Initially, 479 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 2: Rich will start with you. It's one seventy two and 480 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 2: a half at bet MGM. Yeah, give me the over. 481 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 2: This is going to be a track meet. 482 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 6: These are two teams that can run the floor extremely well, 483 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 6: high tempo teams, great offenses obviously just mentioned. I mean 484 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 6: kem Palm has them one and two, and I think 485 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 6: Alabama's interior defense, you know, their rim protector may force 486 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 6: this game into the perimeter a little bit, which Auburn 487 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 6: would be happy to oblige. I mean, they're devastating from perimeter, 488 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 6: and it could it could be one of those games 489 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 6: where it's a race to one hundred, you know what 490 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 6: I mean, which whichever one of these two teams eclipses 491 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 6: triple digits first is going to be the one that 492 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 6: takes home the win. 493 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 5: Plus NATO's Brute Pearl. 494 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 6: They face each other six times, four of those games 495 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 6: hit overs hit, so I mean that's that's a part 496 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 6: of this too. These these are these are coaches who 497 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 6: have devised game plans and teams and rosters that have 498 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 6: benefited the over in the past. So I think it's 499 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 6: gonna soar past that number. 500 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 5: Yeah. 501 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 4: The two keys in this game one Bama limiting turnovers 502 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 4: that's been there Bugaboo this. 503 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 7: Year, very helter skelter team. 504 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 4: When they're on they are elite, but they can get 505 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 4: a little sloppy with the basketball. Auburn is a good 506 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 4: defensive team. They has size, so I think that's a 507 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 4: key to the game. And and Rich nailed it, like the 508 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 4: Auburn shooters are gonna get open looked because you would imagine, 509 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 4: and we'll see how Natos plays it, but you would 510 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 4: imagine the game plan is crash the glass, do not 511 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 4: allow Broom to be. 512 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 7: A dominant for us, which he is. 513 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 4: He might be the best player in college basketball this year, 514 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:48,959 Speaker 4: which means is gonna be a lot of open threes, right, 515 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 4: a lot of kickouts. You got Denver Jones, Miles Kelly, 516 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 4: Cheney Johnson, those are the three shooters for Auburn that 517 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 4: if they can step up right and this is not 518 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 4: an easy environment. You're on the road in the sec 519 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 4: raucus one versus two, So can you make those shots? 520 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 4: They will be open shots. That's actually been the issue 521 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 4: for Auburn this year. They're a good scoring team, but 522 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 4: they're not a great shooting team straight up outside the 523 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 4: top fifty and open three rate this year, So when 524 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 4: they get open threes, they don't make them, and I 525 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 4: think that's going to be, to me, the biggest key 526 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 4: in this game, because I do think the Bama defense 527 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 4: will crash. Bama has bodies they can throw at Broom. 528 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 4: You got Diabate six to seven, he can guard all 529 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 4: five spots. You got the Omiyori, who's the Rutgers transfer 530 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 4: who is an absolute monster. 531 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 7: I don't know if Grant Nelson's that guy. 532 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 4: He's a little more wiry, but that's another body that 533 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 4: will see how Nato to utilizes them. 534 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 7: Auburn is a very experienced team, the oldest team in 535 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 7: the SEC. 536 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 4: They've got twenty four to twenty five year old men 537 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 4: on this roster, so I don't expect them to be 538 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 4: afraid of the moment. But again, that SEC environment is different, 539 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 4: and you do have the return matchup coming up. 540 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 5: Final game of. 541 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 4: The regular season at Auburn and BAMA schedule over the 542 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 4: next two weeks is like ridiculous. They have the toughest 543 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 4: schedule in college basketball down the stretch. The SEC is 544 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 4: a behemoth, so I think BAM at home gets it done. 545 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 4: But this is a toss up game. If Auburn makes 546 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 4: their threes and forces some turnovers. 547 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 7: I think they will. 548 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 4: They will win, but I think Auburn won't make as 549 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 4: many open shots because Bama does have the home the 550 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 4: home core. 551 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm curious about that because look, man, Auburn's offense. 552 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 2: It's funny, right, I think Alabama gets way more credit 553 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 2: offensively than Auburn does, even though they're pretty close. 554 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 3: You remember the old sky I don't know if they 555 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 3: write them anymore. 556 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 2: On your like side mirrors where it's like objects are 557 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 2: closer than they appear. 558 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 3: Like they should still write that, shouldn't they They should 559 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 3: just have. 560 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 4: The stuff on the line been replaced by the little 561 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 4: you know, yellow triangle where like someone's in your blind 562 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 4: spot right now. 563 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 3: But it used to say that, like objects. 564 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 2: Are closer in your mirror than they appear, and or 565 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 2: something like that. And I think that Auburn is closer 566 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 2: offensively to Alabama's offense. Then they get credit for Auburn 567 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 2: as a really really good offense. And I hear you, Jared, 568 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 2: it's can they knock down threes? Especially when they get 569 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 2: open looks? I think it's it's sometimes demoralizing, especially in 570 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 2: college hoops, where you move the ball well, you set 571 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 2: up a wide open three point shot and sometimes it's 572 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 2: nowhere close, you know what I mean. Like, so that's 573 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 2: gonna be a test today for Auburn. I'm curious if 574 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 2: they can knock down threes in general, but especially open threes, 575 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 2: and they're gonna get a lot of good. 576 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 3: Quality just open threes. 577 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 2: You're warming up in the gym by yourself basically, you know, 578 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 2: can you hit those consistently? And that's gonna be a 579 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 2: big part of the game because, hey man, you can 580 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 2: talk to me about defense wins championships all you want, 581 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 2: but in a game like this, you gotta put up 582 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 2: some points or you're gonna lose, right like no. 583 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 6: Doubt, There's no doubt, And Auburn hitting those threes is 584 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 6: gonna be important because, as Jared mentioned, Johnny Broom in 585 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 6: the paint has been electric to start the season, Player 586 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 6: of the year's stuff. However, after the mid January ankle 587 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 6: injury when he came back, he hasn't been as effective 588 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 6: hitting those two pointers that he really started to gain 589 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 6: national acclaim for. So if it does become that type 590 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 6: of game where Alabama's defenders are starting to sneak out 591 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 6: toward the three point line, they need to be able 592 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 6: to rely on Broom to be more effective than he 593 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 6: has been in the very recent past. But look, these 594 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 6: are huge games, a huge road game. It's a rivalry game. 595 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 6: You know, whatever it is, ankle, knee, you just the 596 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 6: pain fades for the hour and a half you're on 597 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 6: the court for He's an electric player. 598 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 5: I think he gets the job done. 599 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 6: But that's gonna be a key to If he looks 600 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 6: like he's limping or hobbling at all, or if he 601 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 6: rolls that ankle again, it could be. 602 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 5: A problem for Auburn. 603 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 4: And that's why I think Bama's going to be very 604 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 4: physical and force him to give it up. Like I 605 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 4: think they are going to throw bodies at him consistently, 606 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 4: and Bama has a deep enough roster to do it. 607 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 4: That's why I think I like Bama in the game 608 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 4: is because I think they just have one or two extra. 609 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 7: Game like this. Again, it's a coin flip game. 610 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 4: The numbers moved a little bit, but it's essentially Bama's 611 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 4: getting there. 612 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 7: Two to two three points for being at home, and 613 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 7: this is a coin flip game. 614 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 4: I actually think the fact that it's under three tells 615 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 4: me that on a neutral Auburn probably would be favored, 616 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 4: and I think that makes sense because I do think 617 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 4: Auburn is a little bit more consistent. But the one 618 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 4: thing I've noticed, not only this year but recently, the 619 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 4: home atmospheres in these high major gyms are just absurd. 620 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 4: They are frenzied, and I think that makes the difference 621 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 4: in this game because there's not a lot separating these 622 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 4: two teams. I think the two things that separates a 623 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 4: the home atmosphere and be the fact that Auburn still 624 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 4: has the home game left at the end of the year. 625 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,479 Speaker 4: So if this does get a little like if, for example, 626 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 4: if Broom does get a little gimpy, hey we've got 627 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 4: a lot of you know, runway left in the year. 628 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 4: So I do think Bama is just a nose in 629 00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 4: front in this game. I think I'll betting them at 630 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 4: one and a half. 631 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 2: You know what's crazy is two thoughts this matchup today, 632 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 2: Auburn at Alabama. It does remind me a bit earlier 633 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 2: in the season where it was Bama at Kentucky and 634 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 2: it was just a track meet that whole game, especially 635 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 2: the first half. But there was a healthy stretch of 636 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 2: that first half where neither team was hitting threes and 637 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 2: it's still soared way over like I remember, because it 638 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 2: was just the pace and they hit enough threes where 639 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 2: it went over the first half total. And maybe you 640 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 2: see something similar in the matchup tonight, where especially early 641 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 2: on first half, maybe you're not hitting threes at a 642 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 2: great rate, but just the pace and the overall scoring, 643 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 2: you're still seeing a healthy amount of scoring. And Jared, 644 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 2: when you're talking about the point spread fluctuating a little bit, 645 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 2: it's been Bama minus one and a half, Bama minus 646 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 2: two and a half. It's kind of gone up and 647 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 2: down there. It reminds me of last night. So it 648 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 2: was Indiana hosting La Ucla was favored by a point 649 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 2: and a half than right before tip off, they're favored 650 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 2: by two and a half. And as fate would have it, right, 651 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 2: you had IU down four at the very end of 652 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 2: the game, they're like four seconds left, they're down by four. 653 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 2: They throw a half court pass. Guy chucks it at 654 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 2: half court, not even close, but it hits the backboard 655 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 2: and an IU player gets the rebound and lays it 656 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 2: in at the buzzer. Ucla wins by two. So think 657 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 2: about that minus one and a half Bruins minus two 658 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 2: and a half Bruins. Depending on when you got it, 659 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 2: it made all the difference in the world, and. 660 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 7: Just bet the money line. 661 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 2: You might be looking at something similar with Bama fluctuating 662 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 2: between one and a half two and a half. 663 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 3: It's something to keep in mind. 664 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 6: I know, I like the total here so much better 665 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 6: because of that, because I do think it's going to 666 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 6: be a track. Mean, I do think the three point 667 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 6: line is going to play a factor in this one. 668 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 6: So it's much more co uzy game watching the number 669 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 6: instead of watching the spread. But if you want a 670 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 6: good sweat, uh yeah, I think my leen's Alabama. 671 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 5: I'll say this about Auburn, more battle. 672 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 6: Tested, least amount of losses against the toughest schedule in 673 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 6: the country. That tells you all you need to know Alabama. 674 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 6: They haven't been as tested, but still a great team 675 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 6: and they can push the tempo. 676 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 5: So we're in for a great game. 677 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 2: Absolutely we are. That's Rich Herenberger, Penn State All American. 678 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 2: Jared Smith with us FSR betting analyst, I'm Brian no. 679 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 2: Be sure to check out the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. 680 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube and you'll see 681 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 2: a whole bunch of video highlights from our shows. Be 682 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 2: sure to subscribe so you always have instant access to 683 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 2: our Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube. 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Oh? 707 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 4: It's moneyline parlay time in college basketball, and. 708 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 7: Y'all are talking about Alabama Auburn. 709 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 4: I'm talking about North Alabama against Jacksonville. 710 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 7: That's the real game of the day. Guys, Come on people. 711 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 7: North Alabama is an absolute wagon. 712 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 4: In the Atlantic Sun. They're a six and a half 713 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 4: point home favor. Today we're gonna put them on the 714 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 4: money line. First leg of the parlay. North dal has 715 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 4: only lost one home game all year. That was back 716 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 4: in November to Samford. They forced turnovers. They're a beast 717 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 4: on the glass. I think they get it done against Jacksonville. 718 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 4: Second leg of the money line parlay, Grand Canyon against U. T. 719 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 7: Arlington. Come out with bringing out all the big guns 720 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 7: for this one. Early the looks are legit, guys. They 721 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 7: are a seven and a half point road fave in 722 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 7: this game. They were a top sixty team over the 723 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 7: last month. 724 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 4: Remember they won a game in the tourney last year 725 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 4: and they played Pamatov in the round of thirty two. 726 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 4: Very experienced lineup Tyan Grant Foster. He's an NBA caliber player. 727 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,800 Speaker 4: They're long and strong defensively. 728 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 7: Don't love U. T. Arlington. 729 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 4: They're coming off an ot win over cal Baptist where 730 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 4: they trailed by seventeen in the second half. 731 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 7: Crazy comeback. 732 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 5: I was actually on U T. 733 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 7: Arlington in that game. 734 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 4: I think they dropped this one though, So we'll put 735 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 4: Grand Canyon on the money line for leg number two. 736 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 7: Leg number three, I'll give you a big. 737 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 4: Kind of game here. Texas at home again Kentucky. So 738 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 4: how about this pranked Kentucky on the road against. 739 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 7: Texas, who's four and eight in conference play. Guess who's favorite. 740 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 4: It's the home team that has only won four SEC 741 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 4: games all year. Again, that unranked home team. We love 742 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 4: that vibe when they are favorite. So we'll put Texas 743 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 4: on the money line. Kentucky dealing with some injuries right now. 744 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 4: They might be without Lamont Butler, their fifth year senior. 745 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,919 Speaker 4: Came over from San Diego State and had a great 746 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 4: run to the Final four with the AS Techs. He's 747 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 4: a little bit banged up. Texas has the leading scorer 748 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 4: in the SEC, trade Johnson. This kid is an absolute 749 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 4: rock star. The complimentary pieces around him are fantastic. Scheddrick 750 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 4: in the middle. You got Kolumba, the trans from k State. 751 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 4: He's the four man, and I really like the point 752 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 4: guard Julian Larry very good points plus assists per possession. 753 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:42,879 Speaker 8: Guy. 754 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:47,760 Speaker 4: So Texas, Grand Canyon and North Alabama, Not Alabama, North 755 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:52,240 Speaker 4: Alabama all on the money line plus one eighty four 756 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 4: over at Bett MGM. 757 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, Texas, how about that Texas coming off of that 758 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 6: loss to Alabama. 759 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 5: But they've lost three straight so. 760 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 6: You're counting on the bounce back here and that Alabama game. 761 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 6: Going back to what we were talking about, because big 762 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 6: one against Auburn today, Alabama was on fire from the 763 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 6: free three point line. 764 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 5: So I like that. 765 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 6: I like Texas over Kentucky. They're gonna get back off 766 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 6: the Schneid. 767 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 7: Off to Schneid. 768 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 4: Anytime I have teams backs against the wall and they're 769 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 4: fevered in a home game against a team that's ranked 770 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,919 Speaker 4: and the team that's favored is not good, it's like right, 771 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 4: you know, it's like those red flag the alarms go off. 772 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 7: Oh take a look at this game. 773 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's the old I always hear the price 774 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,839 Speaker 2: is right thing in my own where it's like right, 775 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 2: right right, when you went to both showk showdowns right there? 776 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what do you have to be within like 777 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 2: ten dollars? It's ridiculous when you want a full showcase showdowns. 778 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 2: But that's the noise I hear in my head. You're 779 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,280 Speaker 2: right it's uh man, the team that's lost three straight 780 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 2: games unranked and favored over the ranked team. 781 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 7: It's like, yeah, wait, wait on. 782 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 4: Kentucky's dealing with so many injuries right now, and we 783 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 4: haven't talked a lot about Kentucky this year. They've had 784 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 4: a pretty good season all things considered, with Pope in 785 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 4: his first year. 786 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,720 Speaker 7: But it just feels like this is a tough spot. 787 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 7: Those home environments in the SEC are really tough, really 788 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 7: tough to overcome. 789 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, and I'll tell you props to you for 790 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,320 Speaker 2: going random on a full slate Saturday. 791 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 3: You know, this almost sounds like a Friday parlay. 792 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,359 Speaker 4: Last Alabama team I love so the two teams you're 793 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 4: gonna be hearing me bet on a lot down the 794 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,760 Speaker 4: stretch North Alabama and Grand Canyons. 795 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 7: I love these two teams. 796 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 5: The Antelopes, man, they they're sneaky. 797 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,839 Speaker 6: They they are one of those teams where you don't 798 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 6: pay attention, Like you said, all of a sudden, they 799 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 6: show up in March and they could be dangerous to 800 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 6: teams that they face in the early rounds. 801 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 5: Round the sixty four, round the thirty two. Yeah, oh, 802 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 5: I do. 803 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 4: Not want to face Grand Canyon and I'll be honest, 804 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 4: this conference is really fun. So the Whack they play 805 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 4: their turn A lot of teams play a lot of 806 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,359 Speaker 4: conference to play their tournaments here in Vegas, but they 807 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:57,280 Speaker 4: have an unbelievable hashtag for their tournament, hashtag Whack Vegas. 808 00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 7: I mean, it does not get any better than that. 809 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 5: The tournament. 810 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 4: It was nuts last year. Remember last year some guy 811 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 4: got like pegged with a ball, like you got like 812 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 4: like absolutely punted because it was like an out, like 813 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 4: you know, the game got crazy late and I got 814 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 4: absolutely It was a fun tournament last year here in Vegas. 815 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. 816 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:16,760 Speaker 2: Man, some of these like random matchups, they're great games. 817 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 5: You know. 818 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 2: I wasn't watching the game, but I was following all 819 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 2: the scores. I don't know what I was doing last night. 820 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 2: I was point A to point B or I don't 821 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,760 Speaker 2: know what was going on, but uh, I was keeping 822 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 2: tabs of Marist at Siena. 823 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 5: I think it was. 824 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Sienna had a big lead, They're up twenty something. 825 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 2: They lost the game out right. I'm like, look at Marist, 826 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 2: look at the Red Foxes coming back. 827 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 4: The lead is ever safe in college basketball again. I 828 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 4: was on that cow Baptist ut Arlington game on Thursday. 829 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 4: It was an afternoon game at at UT Arlington. They 830 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 4: were down seventeen in the second half all of a sudden, 831 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 4: like completely left for dead, and then all of a sudden, 832 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 4: it's the game's in overtime. 833 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, like okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. 834 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 2: No, Hey, listen, man, sometimes these random matchups are your friend. 835 00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 2: You don't have to go big game hunting number one 836 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 2: versus number two. You can find value a. 837 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,280 Speaker 3: Lot of different places. 838 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 7: Because nobody find more value, nobody. 839 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 4: Bets some the numbers don't move as much as a 840 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,319 Speaker 4: softer market, I think the mid major games and we 841 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 4: hear you know, I mean, that's why we have Shameless 842 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 4: on all the time, with the shame of special like 843 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,439 Speaker 4: he's he's made a name for himself with him. 844 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,400 Speaker 7: That's where you really, that's where I love that. 845 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 3: In college oops, yeah, no doubt. 846 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 2: All right, we'll have more college hoops for you coming 847 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:26,839 Speaker 2: up throughout the show, some more intriguing matchups. Houston at 848 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 2: Arizona is a good one. We'll get into that here 849 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,359 Speaker 2: as we go along. Also, coming up, the name is 850 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 2: way bigger than the game right now, we'll have details. 851 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 2: Oh welcome in. I hope your morning is off to 852 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 2: a great start. Hey, we do have to mention some 853 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 2: ball over here in between all the basketball chatter. But 854 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, he was let go by the Jets officially, 855 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 2: Jets informed Aaron Rodgers that they are moving in a 856 00:40:54,800 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 2: different direction, and uh, what's next for Rogers? If any 857 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,800 Speaker 2: Here's a legitimate question, and it might vary team by team, 858 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 2: but would you rather have Sam Donald or Aaron Rodgers 859 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 2: right now? Like, that's a legitimate question based on the 860 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 2: age the last season that both of them had. 861 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 3: Does it vary from team to team for you? 862 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 2: For instance, if you're the Raiders, why would you want 863 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers over Sam Donald. I'm not doing backflips for 864 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 2: Sam Donald, but he's way younger than Rogers. Where are 865 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,720 Speaker 2: you going with Rogers in one year? With the roster 866 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 2: you have, You're going nowhere? If you're the Steelers, maybe 867 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 2: you'd go with Rogers thinking you have a playoff ready 868 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 2: type type team type roster and. 869 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 3: You make a run for it. Maybe it varies, does 870 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 3: it very for you? 871 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 5: Rich? 872 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 2: If you go team by team, would you rather have 873 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 2: Sam Donald or Aaron Rodgers as your quarterback? 874 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 6: It's a good question that I haven't committed a lot 875 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 6: of thought to if I were to think team by team, 876 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,439 Speaker 6: But I have committed some thought to, like QB comparisons, 877 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,280 Speaker 6: guys who are presumed to be available or are available, 878 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 6: And both Donald and Aaron Rodgers were presumed and now 879 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 6: are available. So I have thought about which one makes 880 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 6: a better fit with most of these teams. And every 881 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 6: single time I spin the wheel at lands on Donald, 882 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 6: because Aaron Rodgers, as talented as he is, you are 883 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 6: right now gauging your potential success on just that his 884 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 6: potential because he has not played to his potential in 885 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 6: literally years. Sam Darnald, you can make the same argument. 886 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 6: But he's coming off of the strongest season of his career, 887 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,400 Speaker 6: So look, is he as veteran of talent as Aaron. 888 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 5: No. 889 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 6: Has he been a leader deep into the postseason like 890 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 6: Aaron has been in the past. 891 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 5: No, But also Aaron Rodgers hasn't done that in a 892 00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 5: long time. 893 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 6: And so you're you're really taking a flyer out on 894 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 6: both of them. One of them is probably going to 895 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 6: be less experience expensive, that's Aaron, but also has a 896 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 6: a a nearer expiration date. Donald is going to be 897 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 6: more expensive. But if it works out, you may have 898 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 6: yourself a franchise quarterback potentially, So I I mean, if 899 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 6: we're rating it on potential alone, and where I see 900 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 6: the arrow pointing for these two quarterbacks, I think for 901 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 6: the majority of teams, I think Sam Donald's the better, 902 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 6: safer choice. 903 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, the tag on Donald will be like forty mil So, 904 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 4: the Vikings will obviously you know he's gone, and he'll 905 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 4: be he'll be in the wild and anyone can sign 906 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 4: him and be in the wilder like in the wild, 907 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 4: and you'll you'll see what his fair market value really is. 908 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,319 Speaker 4: Whereas Aaron Rodgers is a lot like Russell Wilson last year, 909 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,839 Speaker 4: where you know the Jets are going to pick up 910 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 4: the tab and someone else is going to get a 911 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 4: really cheap discount, really cheat So you're gonna see a 912 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 4: lot of teams that are going to be very excited 913 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 4: to try to sign Rogers and get him on the team. 914 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:14,840 Speaker 4: I think that at Pittsburgh makes sense. Vegas makes a 915 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,800 Speaker 4: lot of sense at Aaron. I don't know if you're listening. 916 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 4: The plant medicine out here. 917 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 7: In Vegas is fantastic. 918 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,360 Speaker 4: Don't ask me how I know, but we know Aaron's 919 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 4: a big ayahuasca guy. 920 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 7: I'm telling you, this is the spot for it. Aaron, 921 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,399 Speaker 7: come out to Vegas. It's fantastic out here. 922 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 4: No, there's a lot of positives I think with the 923 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 4: Vegas situation as well, because of the defense, and really 924 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:39,759 Speaker 4: like as a Jets fan speaking objectively here, Aaron was 925 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 4: not the problem last year. Now do I love the 926 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 4: fact that he was a content creator first quarterback second, No, 927 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 4: But Aaron Rodgers was not the issue with the Jets 928 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 4: last year. He was not the reason that they just 929 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 4: completely fell off a cliff. I think there's one good 930 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 4: year of football left in Aaron's arm, and it's all 931 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,880 Speaker 4: about finding the right situation, the right culture. 932 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 7: He needs to go to an established culture. 933 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:05,319 Speaker 4: He needs to go to a place where his quirkiness 934 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 4: is a little bit more appreciated and accepted. 935 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 7: Whereas the Jets, they expected. 936 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 4: Him to be the leader, and I just don't think 937 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,280 Speaker 4: he's that guy at this stage of his career. 938 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:15,839 Speaker 7: I think he's a guy that needs to come into it. 939 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 4: He needs the parachute into an established spot with an 940 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 4: established culture. He needs to play his best year of 941 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 4: football and then he'll probably move on. But I would 942 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,360 Speaker 4: be surprised if it's not either Pittsburgh or Vegas. 943 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,479 Speaker 2: Well he was better down the stretch the last ten games, 944 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 2: who were a lot better than the first seven games 945 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 2: for Rogers. Where you look at the first seven games, 946 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 2: it's like ten touchdowns to seven picks, that's not what 947 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 2: you're looking for. The last ten games, eighteen touchdowns to 948 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 2: four picks, that's that's better. 949 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 3: That's better. 950 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,319 Speaker 2: So I think that some of this is viewed a 951 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 2: little bit too negatively because the expectations were so high, 952 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,760 Speaker 2: right it was, oh, you got Rogers and a real 953 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 2: defense man, that they could be a real player come 954 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 2: playoff time, and they weren't even sniffing the playoffs five 955 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,359 Speaker 2: and twelve, you know, And a lot of that does 956 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 2: fall on Rogers' shoulders. But if you look at, to 957 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 2: Jared's point, just individually what his numbers were, his numbers 958 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 2: might be better than you thought, just. 959 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:22,360 Speaker 3: Based on how high the expectations. 960 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 2: Were, how low the results were team wise, and you're like, man, 961 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 2: did Rogers throwing more picks than touchdowns? 962 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:28,160 Speaker 5: You know what I mean? 963 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,759 Speaker 2: It just feels like the individual production was actually worse 964 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 2: than it really was. But with all that being said, 965 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 2: you got a high maintenance quarterback that you have to 966 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,799 Speaker 2: ask yourself, is it really worth getting into business with 967 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,880 Speaker 2: this guy at this stage of his career. I just 968 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 2: I don't get the Raiders thing at all. That roster 969 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,880 Speaker 2: is nowhere near competing. What in the AFC West with 970 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,959 Speaker 2: the Chiefs, the Chargers, even Denver was a playoff team. 971 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 3: What are the Raiders doing with Rogers? They're doing nothing. 972 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 2: Don't know why he would say yes, other than just 973 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 2: to get a pay check and stay relevant where he 974 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,799 Speaker 2: goes on shows and he's an active quarterback instead of retired. 975 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,840 Speaker 2: Other than that, they're not winning anything nothing with the 976 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 2: Raiders this next season. 977 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 6: I also think that Aaron's gonna be choosy. I think 978 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:21,160 Speaker 6: that there's a possibility that maybe he even takes a 979 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:25,320 Speaker 6: gap year because the right team, with the right situation 980 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,399 Speaker 6: didn't look to sign Aaron Rodgers. I could see that too, 981 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 6: and we've seen that in the past. Look guys have 982 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 6: been you know, retired or have been out of the 983 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,879 Speaker 6: league and they've been called back into action and they've 984 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 6: had success. Look at Joe Flacco, you know, with the 985 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:46,400 Speaker 6: with the Cleveland Browns. He led them last season, not 986 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 6: this past season, but the twenty twenty three season into 987 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,959 Speaker 6: the twenty twenty five or twenty twenty four season, into 988 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 6: the twenty twenty three season, into the twenty twenty four playoffs. 989 00:47:59,000 --> 00:47:59,959 Speaker 5: With the Cleveland Brown. 990 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 6: You know, he was called off the lazy boy, he 991 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 6: was on the recliner, and he got back out there. 992 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 6: So even if it's a situation where Rodgers is out 993 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 6: of football, it's possible that he could make a return 994 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 6: if the right situation comes up and he's at the 995 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 6: point in his career where he can be choosy. But 996 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,399 Speaker 6: I agree with what you said, Brian. When you sign 997 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers, you onboard some problems. There's issues with his 998 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 6: the freedom that he has as an elder statement in 999 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 6: this league, and that's something you're not gonna have to 1000 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 6: deal with with Sam Donald. Sam Donald is way more 1001 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,920 Speaker 6: controllable because even though he'll be one of one of 1002 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 6: the higher paid quarterbacks in the league this upcoming season, 1003 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,839 Speaker 6: he still has a ton to prove. Aaron Rodgers is 1004 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 6: I mean miles down that road, and in fact, I 1005 00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,439 Speaker 6: feel like he's going to flip the paradigm. I think 1006 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 6: there's gonna be a team or teams out there who 1007 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,319 Speaker 6: are interested in him, who don't have who don't have 1008 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 6: enough to prove to Aaron in order for him to 1009 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:07,879 Speaker 6: sign with them. 1010 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:12,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was weird because Diana Rassini reported that there 1011 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,839 Speaker 4: were these stipulations that the Jets gave him. You can't 1012 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 4: appear on the McAfee show, you have to show up 1013 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 4: the mandatory mini camp and all the you know, the 1014 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 4: little things that a lot of veterans get a pass 1015 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 4: on these days if they, you know, they have a 1016 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:29,760 Speaker 4: legit excuse. And then Ian Rapport came on NFL network 1017 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:33,240 Speaker 4: and said that wasn't true, and both parties just decided 1018 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,880 Speaker 4: to part ways. So there's been a little bit of confusion, 1019 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,439 Speaker 4: I guess, and I don't. I honestly don't know which 1020 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 4: of those. 1021 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 7: Two stories is true. They both are very credible reporters. 1022 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,759 Speaker 4: But my guess is there were probably conversations about that, 1023 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,840 Speaker 4: and that was a part of it, but maybe not 1024 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 4: the full part of it, and both parties just kind 1025 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,920 Speaker 4: of wanted to move on from each other. But my 1026 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 4: guess is, you know, to kind of tie a bow 1027 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,799 Speaker 4: on why would he go to Vegas. Vegas probably would 1028 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 4: let him do those things, and they probably wouldn't care, 1029 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,280 Speaker 4: you know, like that's so it might be the freedom 1030 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 4: that he is entitled to as a veteran that maybe 1031 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:14,920 Speaker 4: a new culture like Aaron Glenn won't tolerate. But Pete Carroll, 1032 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 4: who's a little bit more of a player's coach, not 1033 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,280 Speaker 4: trying to you know, get into his first head coaching 1034 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 4: job in Ruffle Feathers, like Aaron Glenn's really trying to 1035 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,280 Speaker 4: pull the reins back in and really grab this Jets 1036 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,400 Speaker 4: locker room, whereas Pete Carroll, I think is I would assume, 1037 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 4: I don't know, I would assume we'll have a little 1038 00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,840 Speaker 4: bit more hands off, lase fair approach to the Raiders 1039 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:40,040 Speaker 4: locker room might allow him some freedoms. And let's be honest, 1040 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,160 Speaker 4: if he goes to Pittsburgh, I would say Mike Tomlins 1041 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,279 Speaker 4: more on the Aaron Glenn's side of the aisle with Hey, 1042 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,520 Speaker 4: I'm gonna grab this locker room by the horns, and 1043 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,360 Speaker 4: this is my locker room, and we're going to control 1044 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,360 Speaker 4: the culture here in Pittsburgh. So that might be a 1045 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 4: deciding factor for where Aaron goes. Where does he have 1046 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,600 Speaker 4: the most freedom, Where can he be the most energetic 1047 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 4: healing you know, iahwa Skill like I think the free 1048 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,200 Speaker 4: spirit that he is might fit Vegas. 1049 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:05,960 Speaker 7: Based off of that vibe. 1050 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 3: No, I hear you. It makes sense what you're saying. 1051 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,680 Speaker 2: The only thing that keeps me from the Raiders is 1052 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 2: we're guessing what Aaron Rodgers really wants at this point. 1053 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:19,360 Speaker 2: And granted that can be, you know, an adventure what 1054 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:24,720 Speaker 2: he wants exactly, but I would assume that if you're like, hey, Rogers, 1055 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,200 Speaker 2: do you want to sign up for five. 1056 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,920 Speaker 3: And twelve again? What do you think buddy? 1057 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, no, I've had my fair share of 1058 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 2: five and twelve? 1059 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:32,719 Speaker 3: Thank you? 1060 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 8: Right? 1061 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:34,960 Speaker 2: Like, does he really want to run it back with 1062 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,400 Speaker 2: a similar season and a similar lack of team success 1063 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,000 Speaker 2: than what he just experienced with the Jets? That's what 1064 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,000 Speaker 2: you're signing up for with the Raiders. Best case scenario, 1065 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,920 Speaker 2: you're like seven and ten, Like literally that would be 1066 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,320 Speaker 2: like pie in the sky is we're inching toward five hundred? 1067 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,200 Speaker 4: Do you think he really cares that much about winning 1068 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,040 Speaker 4: another Super Bowl? Honestly, Like, deep down in his gut. 1069 00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 3: I think he cares about winning. 1070 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 2: I don't know, like priority wise super Bowl versus I 1071 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,040 Speaker 2: want to do this and I want to go here 1072 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:07,799 Speaker 2: and I want to have the freedom that it's Aaron 1073 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 2: Rodgers we're talking about. So I don't know how his 1074 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:14,759 Speaker 2: list exactly breaks down, but I think what rich said 1075 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:19,919 Speaker 2: makes more sense where if I'm Rogers, I would rather 1076 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 2: just be a free agent. 1077 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 3: And granted, it's not the best case. 1078 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,480 Speaker 2: Scenario where you're waiting for a better situation if a 1079 00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:31,880 Speaker 2: quarterback goes down, Like think about the Cowboys last season 1080 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,800 Speaker 2: when Dak went down. If they had a legitimate record 1081 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,719 Speaker 2: and they're like, hey, let's give Rogers a call here, 1082 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 2: I'd much rather go to. 1083 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 3: A roster like that than the Raiders. 1084 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,080 Speaker 2: You know, I don't want to sign up with the 1085 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,480 Speaker 2: Raiders day one and be their quarterback. I would rather 1086 00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:48,640 Speaker 2: keep my options open if it was down to those 1087 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:49,440 Speaker 2: two options. 1088 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, it could be a situation where I mean, look, 1089 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:59,000 Speaker 6: JJ McCarthy, he gets injured in training camp, Sam Darnold 1090 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,480 Speaker 6: works out, But I mean, obviously they're they're pushing their 1091 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,359 Speaker 6: chips in the middle of the table with McCarthy and 1092 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,960 Speaker 6: Darnold is going to be a quarterback for someone else. 1093 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,160 Speaker 5: What if that knee isn't right or what if what if? 1094 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,640 Speaker 5: What if? And I'm not just focusing. 1095 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:17,120 Speaker 6: On McCarthy, but any of these quarterbacks we see. 1096 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,000 Speaker 5: Injuries all the time. 1097 00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:23,359 Speaker 6: So if the right move doesn't avail itself to Rogers immediately, 1098 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 6: I think the waiting game and a little patience could 1099 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,480 Speaker 6: behoove him. And even if that means, hey, I'm gonna 1100 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:33,000 Speaker 6: skip a season all together, I'm gonna do the media circuit. 1101 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,680 Speaker 6: Maybe I'm gonna co host some shows, just like you know, 1102 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,759 Speaker 6: Bill Belichick took a gap year before taking the UNC job, 1103 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,920 Speaker 6: or Pete Carroll was, you know, an adjunct professor at 1104 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:46,480 Speaker 6: USC before. 1105 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:47,680 Speaker 5: Taking the Vegas Raiders job. 1106 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,839 Speaker 6: As coaches, you know, when you're an elder statesman and 1107 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:54,200 Speaker 6: you have a name like Carol or Belichick or in 1108 00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:58,560 Speaker 6: the quarterback Realm Rogers, it always feels like there's gonna 1109 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,719 Speaker 6: be a seat at the table for you. It's just 1110 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,160 Speaker 6: a matter of where and what the situation looks like 1111 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,359 Speaker 6: and if you think it benefits you. So I could 1112 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,239 Speaker 6: see this story carrying on for a long time. 1113 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,880 Speaker 5: And by the way, wouldn't Aaron Rodgers like that? 1114 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:18,200 Speaker 6: Because his name ends up in the media a lot, 1115 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,480 Speaker 6: and I think it's by design. I think he likes 1116 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:26,239 Speaker 6: to inject himself into the conversation. He likes having narratives 1117 00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:30,720 Speaker 6: swirling around him and this would be another narrative like, Wow, 1118 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:35,960 Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers went on went unsigned, Where does he go next? 1119 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,360 Speaker 6: You know, dot dot Dodd stay tuned. It's it's just 1120 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,360 Speaker 6: a way to feed that cycle. 1121 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:43,839 Speaker 7: I think the key in this. 1122 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:47,880 Speaker 4: Quarterback classes is Stafford and what the Rams decide to do. 1123 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,799 Speaker 4: I think that will flick the domino and start to 1124 00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,879 Speaker 4: put the wheels in motion for where everything else pans out, 1125 00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:00,200 Speaker 4: because that's to me, that's the most intriguing. I mean, 1126 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,839 Speaker 4: if you're a team looking for a quarterback one year 1127 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,400 Speaker 4: bridge quarterback. 1128 00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:06,320 Speaker 7: That's the guy I want. 1129 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,600 Speaker 4: That's the guy who has already proven in his first 1130 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,279 Speaker 4: year with a new team he can go to a 1131 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:15,399 Speaker 4: super Bowl. And I think that is the If there's 1132 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:19,440 Speaker 4: one team that can really set the tone for the 1133 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 4: free agency the off season in the NFL, it's the 1134 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,759 Speaker 4: Rams and how they decide, and not only Stafford but 1135 00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:28,560 Speaker 4: cup I mean, imagine, imagine how quickly you can turn 1136 00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,680 Speaker 4: and the Commanders did it last year right now. 1137 00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,240 Speaker 7: They did it through the draft and building. 1138 00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,799 Speaker 4: I would say the right way, but you can see 1139 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,400 Speaker 4: the worst to first is there, Like if there's a 1140 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 4: team Giants tight, somebody that can figure out a way 1141 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:45,240 Speaker 4: to pry Stafford and Cooper Cup away from the Rams Raiders. 1142 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 4: I mean, whoever it is you go from worse to first, 1143 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,480 Speaker 4: or you can really, you know, set your sights on 1144 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,200 Speaker 4: a division with a snap of a finger, just like 1145 00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 4: that with one with one wave of your wand. 1146 00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,240 Speaker 7: And getting those two guys in toe. 1147 00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,960 Speaker 4: So I think Rogers is kind of because of the 1148 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,839 Speaker 4: price tag on Rogers and because of the Jets having 1149 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,960 Speaker 4: to eat the I mean, that's just the only contract 1150 00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,759 Speaker 4: this year that's worse than the Rogers thing is what's 1151 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,879 Speaker 4: going on with the Angels and Anthony Rendome, but that. 1152 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:12,360 Speaker 7: We can save that for baseball season. 1153 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,239 Speaker 4: It's it's crazy how how much, how cheap he will be, 1154 00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,200 Speaker 4: and I think that'll be kind of the hey we 1155 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:20,600 Speaker 4: need a guy, let's bring in Aaron. 1156 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:21,239 Speaker 7: He's real cheap. 1157 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,440 Speaker 4: Whereas Stafford, I think, is the guy that will kind 1158 00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,840 Speaker 4: of set the market for quarterbacks in the off season. 1159 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:29,960 Speaker 3: I just don't see. 1160 00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:33,920 Speaker 2: I mean, you could give the Raiders whatever combination Rogers 1161 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:34,360 Speaker 2: in Cup. 1162 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:35,640 Speaker 3: They're going nowhere. 1163 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,840 Speaker 2: You could give the Raiders Stafford in Cup and I 1164 00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,320 Speaker 2: would I heavily bet against them in that division. 1165 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,399 Speaker 3: They're not They're again like the. 1166 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:46,919 Speaker 7: Yeah, the division's really tough. I agree. 1167 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Chiefs are going for a three peat. You know, 1168 00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,320 Speaker 2: they've been the class. They've been in the AFC title 1169 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:55,480 Speaker 2: Game seven straight years. Like I know, worse the first 1170 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,960 Speaker 2: can happen in the NFL. I totally get that. But like, 1171 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 2: is Rogers like Jayden Daniels at the stage of his career. 1172 00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,400 Speaker 7: No, I don't think Rogers moves into I think if 1173 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 7: the Raiders. 1174 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,719 Speaker 4: Get Stafford in Cup, I would I would be very 1175 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:08,000 Speaker 4: I'd be like whoa. 1176 00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,920 Speaker 3: I'd be like, whoa, there they go eight and nine. 1177 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:12,680 Speaker 3: But I'd be like, they're. 1178 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:20,240 Speaker 2: Going nowhere, nowhere in that division, even with those guys, Chargers, Chiefs, Broncos. No, 1179 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:21,720 Speaker 2: not happening. 1180 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:22,360 Speaker 3: Sorry. 1181 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:27,120 Speaker 6: There usually is an odd man out divisionally, right, you know, there's. 1182 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,919 Speaker 5: A team that even even if in. 1183 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:33,160 Speaker 6: The preseason they look like on paper, they can compete. 1184 00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,360 Speaker 6: It's hard to have four competitive teams in a division, 1185 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,080 Speaker 6: and it does feel like the Raiders are the odd 1186 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:45,480 Speaker 6: man out. But who knows roster construction, you know, a 1187 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:49,160 Speaker 6: change of guard at the top of this organization, maybe 1188 00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:54,240 Speaker 6: some stability we haven't seen before, and and things. Things 1189 00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,800 Speaker 6: are constantly influx in the NFL. I wouldn't be surprised 1190 00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 6: if there were surprises in the AFC West for US 1191 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:01,320 Speaker 6: this upcoming season. 1192 00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,480 Speaker 7: He was always the Jets in the afcast. 1193 00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,560 Speaker 4: Let's just leave it there, it's always the Jets. 1194 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:09,280 Speaker 2: As I hope they do get significant upgrades because that 1195 00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:10,880 Speaker 2: would be a lot of fun. It would a lot 1196 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:16,320 Speaker 2: of fun to you know, they anticipate where they're gonna be. Yeah, 1197 00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,400 Speaker 2: the NFL is more exciting, hundred relevant. 1198 00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:21,959 Speaker 5: Come on, all. 1199 00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 2: Right, we've got rich Ronberger, Penn State All American, Jared 1200 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,480 Speaker 2: Smith FSR betting analyst. 1201 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:27,240 Speaker 3: I'm Brian No. 1202 00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,400 Speaker 2: Use code countdown at bet MGM and receive up to 1203 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:32,800 Speaker 2: fifteen hundred dollars back in bonus bets if you don't 1204 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,480 Speaker 2: win your first bet. When you're registered with bet MGM, 1205 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,880 Speaker 2: you'll get instant access to a variety of parlay selection features, 1206 00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:42,680 Speaker 2: live betting options, signature bets, and the best daily promotions 1207 00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,680 Speaker 2: in the business. 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You know it's funny, Seamus. 1226 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,800 Speaker 2: You have got number one versus number two today, Auburn 1227 00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:50,560 Speaker 2: at Alabama. And I know that you love your you know, 1228 00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:53,960 Speaker 2: off the radar college basketball plays, but do you love 1229 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:54,360 Speaker 2: this one? 1230 00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:55,760 Speaker 3: Also for a player too. 1231 00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,920 Speaker 8: Guys gonna be back this week. I don't know, I 1232 01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,280 Speaker 8: don't see much of it edge here. I think both 1233 01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,880 Speaker 8: teams are really really good. It's going to be really tight. 1234 01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,439 Speaker 8: I don't see a side I particularly loved here. Even 1235 01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,600 Speaker 8: the total, I mean, seventy two and a half total 1236 01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:14,720 Speaker 8: seems high, but both teams have showed over the course 1237 01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,479 Speaker 8: of the year that they can score the basketball I will, 1238 01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:21,000 Speaker 8: so I don't really see much of a sign here. 1239 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,040 Speaker 8: I know this line opened, you know, around one and 1240 01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,720 Speaker 8: a half. We're still sitting there, so we'll see which 1241 01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:28,720 Speaker 8: way the money falls come closer to tip. 1242 01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:32,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, Seamus, I think just an absolute behemoth of a 1243 01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:34,560 Speaker 4: Saturday in college basketball. I want to give you a 1244 01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:39,000 Speaker 4: chance here as the football season officially concludes. Just an 1245 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,040 Speaker 4: epic super Bowl for the I mean, I know no 1246 01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,920 Speaker 4: one listening cares, but for you as a sports book, 1247 01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:47,800 Speaker 4: was that the most part I heard, the most profitable day, 1248 01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:51,840 Speaker 4: the biggest day in bet MGM history because of all 1249 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,520 Speaker 4: those Saquon Barkley anytime touchdown bets that came up empty. 1250 01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:54,840 Speaker 6: Oo. 1251 01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I'm sure everyone listening is just, you know, 1252 01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:06,280 Speaker 8: put on Super Bowl Sunday. Everyone's pumped. But yeah, it's seriously. 1253 01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:09,200 Speaker 8: Our PR team put it out earlier this week. It 1254 01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,000 Speaker 8: was one of the best days we've ever had as 1255 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:15,600 Speaker 8: a company. That's even with you know, coming in, there 1256 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,440 Speaker 8: were so many different factors about which side we're rooting for. 1257 01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,880 Speaker 8: It ended up being fairly balanced either way. About the outcome, 1258 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,160 Speaker 8: a couple of things he said that worked out for 1259 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:29,560 Speaker 8: a Saquon under his totals no touchdown, Kelsey under his totals, 1260 01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:33,080 Speaker 8: no touchdown, incredible stuff. I mean, HER's first touchdown was 1261 01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:36,240 Speaker 8: the only market that really felt like that was where 1262 01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,520 Speaker 8: we took a bit of a hit. But we're talking 1263 01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,920 Speaker 8: all of these, you know, sing game parlays getting cooked 1264 01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,720 Speaker 8: the Chiefs. We stood a lot of liability on the 1265 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,919 Speaker 8: last legs of parlays that included the Chiefs. Even when 1266 01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,280 Speaker 8: that game we're in the Super Bowl. You have a 1267 01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,920 Speaker 8: live book where everyone races to bet the Chiefs whenever 1268 01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,520 Speaker 8: they're losing, and they just kept getting pummeled and not 1269 01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:01,360 Speaker 8: even covering big spreads. It seemed like everything seemed to 1270 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,680 Speaker 8: go our way in that game. So it's definitely one 1271 01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:05,560 Speaker 8: we're going to remember, and it was one of the 1272 01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,280 Speaker 8: best I think we've shown in a while. We had 1273 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,680 Speaker 8: over thirteen hundred markets, over thirty five hundred selections you 1274 01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,360 Speaker 8: can make on the Super Bowl. Definitely one of our 1275 01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,479 Speaker 8: best looking books we've ever had. For a Super Bowl. 1276 01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,680 Speaker 8: So just a great job for the trading team all 1277 01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:18,880 Speaker 8: around from us. 1278 01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:19,560 Speaker 5: Incredible. 1279 01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:23,360 Speaker 6: As we turn our attention to college basketball, it's just 1280 01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,040 Speaker 6: about time we start talking about the tournament. We got 1281 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:30,200 Speaker 6: a couple of double bubble games like West Virginia, Baylor, 1282 01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,160 Speaker 6: Wake Fours SMU. 1283 01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,720 Speaker 5: How about how about bubble teams you like? 1284 01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:41,400 Speaker 6: I mean, there's plenty to choose from Vandy, Texas, San 1285 01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,720 Speaker 6: Diego State that one hits close to home. Is there 1286 01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,440 Speaker 6: a bubble team or a couple that have your attention 1287 01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:48,680 Speaker 6: at this point of the season. 1288 01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:53,680 Speaker 8: I mean, yeah, it's definitely a definitely a weird bubble. 1289 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:58,280 Speaker 8: It feels like we're talking about expanding the tournament in 1290 01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,720 Speaker 8: the coming years and I don't see when, Like this 1291 01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,000 Speaker 8: bubble is pretty lack luster. Like, you have an SMU 1292 01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,720 Speaker 8: team record looks great, They've beaten absolutely no I think 1293 01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:08,600 Speaker 8: they have one win against a Ken Palm Top fifty 1294 01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,440 Speaker 8: team like Wake Forest is outside the bubble. I'm not 1295 01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,240 Speaker 8: sure how much I love them West Virginia, I mean 1296 01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:15,680 Speaker 8: that was a team I liked. If they had Tucker 1297 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:19,320 Speaker 8: de Breeze going the rest of the year, you know, 1298 01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:21,880 Speaker 8: you got a roof for Vanderbilt like it'd be so 1299 01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:24,400 Speaker 8: cool to see them make it back here into the tournament. 1300 01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:28,840 Speaker 8: But yeah, I don't you talked about you see San Diego, 1301 01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,320 Speaker 8: but like it's tough to see. Are we going to 1302 01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,520 Speaker 8: really get a two big big West? That would be 1303 01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:38,200 Speaker 8: really crazy to see. I mean, Arkansas's a bubble team 1304 01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,280 Speaker 8: just loaded with talent, but you know, they keep not 1305 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,560 Speaker 8: winning these big games. Frankly, like I don't even know 1306 01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,240 Speaker 8: how many teams I really you know, like that are 1307 01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,280 Speaker 8: on the bubble, like to even make a run. 1308 01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:51,360 Speaker 2: You know, it's funny going back to the super Bowl 1309 01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:53,640 Speaker 2: that you guys had and all the money that you made. 1310 01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:55,680 Speaker 3: What do you guys do as a company. 1311 01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,960 Speaker 2: I just picture like, hey, guys, we made twenty two 1312 01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:00,840 Speaker 2: million chili. 1313 01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:02,720 Speaker 3: Is at lunch today for everyone. Like what do you 1314 01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:06,240 Speaker 3: guys do to celebrate anything for like a cash like that? 1315 01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:11,000 Speaker 8: Come on, well, it's exactly what you know the public 1316 01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,640 Speaker 8: sports betters think we do. We just talk champagne and 1317 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,200 Speaker 8: the party alloted for sleep through the night after the 1318 01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:19,600 Speaker 8: super Bowl. No, it's you know, this week, it's you know, 1319 01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:21,760 Speaker 8: it's a big debrief. We look back on the on 1320 01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,480 Speaker 8: the football season. You know, we try not to you know, 1321 01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:26,880 Speaker 8: be like, hey, that was a great result. Let's you know, 1322 01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,840 Speaker 8: take some time to credit your respective teams and whatnot. 1323 01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,240 Speaker 8: But March Madness is around the corner, so we don't 1324 01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,280 Speaker 8: have a lot of time to just you know, you 1325 01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,200 Speaker 8: know it, say a great job and everything, because we 1326 01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:38,560 Speaker 8: got to keep moving forward and you know, keep improving. 1327 01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,960 Speaker 8: So uh yeah, we're locked in on the college basketball 1328 01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:44,840 Speaker 8: coming ahead, and you know, it's still funny of NBA going. 1329 01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:46,400 Speaker 8: We're a little bit of a break with the All 1330 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,040 Speaker 8: Star Game coming up, and we've got Four Nations hockey, 1331 01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:50,720 Speaker 8: which has been awesome this week and we're seeing some 1332 01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:51,439 Speaker 8: good handle there. 1333 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:52,200 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1334 01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:55,320 Speaker 4: Actually that has been the buzz amongst some of the 1335 01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:59,080 Speaker 4: gambling social media circles this week. Is those the Finland 1336 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,960 Speaker 4: you know us say Canon, all those crazy hockey matchups 1337 01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:06,600 Speaker 4: that are happening right now. A quick transition question with 1338 01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:10,160 Speaker 4: college hoops, we're in that week now where everyone starts 1339 01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,200 Speaker 4: to focus on college basketball. Would you say at this 1340 01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:16,600 Speaker 4: point the market has fully caught up to that or 1341 01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:18,680 Speaker 4: is there a little bit of a grace period for 1342 01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,720 Speaker 4: the casual college basketball better that has missed out on 1343 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,200 Speaker 4: the first three months of the season to kind of 1344 01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,080 Speaker 4: get their feet wet with the softer market, or are 1345 01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:29,040 Speaker 4: you guys, do you feel your defenses are impenetrable at 1346 01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:31,440 Speaker 4: this stage where you've had twenty five data points on 1347 01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:33,160 Speaker 4: most of these teams, you kind of know what they are. 1348 01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:34,600 Speaker 4: Or do we get a little bit of a grace 1349 01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:36,520 Speaker 4: period for the next couple weeks until March madness. 1350 01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:40,800 Speaker 8: You might get a little bit of like an edge 1351 01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,960 Speaker 8: this week, But you know, we have a pretty decent 1352 01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,120 Speaker 8: sample size. Most teams have played around, you know, a 1353 01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:50,120 Speaker 8: little north of twenty games already this year, so market's 1354 01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,080 Speaker 8: definitely settled on a lot of teams. But you know, 1355 01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,160 Speaker 8: you look at these smaller conference teams that you know 1356 01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:57,200 Speaker 8: I always come on here and talk about you can 1357 01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,680 Speaker 8: always find an edge there. I mean, if you're locked 1358 01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,760 Speaker 8: in you know, the Swack Conference or you know the 1359 01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,640 Speaker 8: Horizon League Church, you can still find an edge. But 1360 01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:07,840 Speaker 8: you know, this time, like there is a lot of 1361 01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:09,920 Speaker 8: teams that you probably have missed the boat a little bit. 1362 01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,320 Speaker 8: But you know, if there's a team I always like 1363 01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:16,120 Speaker 8: to see teams who have started playing better since the 1364 01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:17,920 Speaker 8: new year, and you know, you get a team like 1365 01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,000 Speaker 8: Wisconsin right now, they've been playing some of the best 1366 01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:21,800 Speaker 8: basketball in the country right now, So that could be 1367 01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,120 Speaker 8: another team where it's like, oh, well, maybe you know, 1368 01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,960 Speaker 8: is the market caught up to them yet? We'll see. 1369 01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:28,480 Speaker 8: That's just an example. 1370 01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,440 Speaker 5: Number one, verse number two. I said it earlier today. 1371 01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:36,120 Speaker 6: Auburn at Alabama, I'm expecting a track meet. I think 1372 01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:39,480 Speaker 6: the over is a safe bet. How do you feel 1373 01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:42,400 Speaker 6: this game is going to be played? I'm thinking tempo, 1374 01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:44,360 Speaker 6: but I'd love to hear your thoughts on it. 1375 01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,000 Speaker 8: I agree. I mean, it's hard not to see tempo, 1376 01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:50,760 Speaker 8: especially with Nate Oates. Do you know how he likes 1377 01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:52,960 Speaker 8: to play, especially at home. They're gonna they're gonna really 1378 01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:57,040 Speaker 8: run the ball, and we're prol It's not as DNA 1379 01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:58,400 Speaker 8: to ever take the air out of the ball. So 1380 01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,560 Speaker 8: I think you're definitely going to see a track It's 1381 01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:01,960 Speaker 8: just are we going to see the shops? 1382 01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:02,120 Speaker 5: Ball? 1383 01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:02,760 Speaker 8: Is all we need? 1384 01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:04,160 Speaker 5: All right? 1385 01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:08,720 Speaker 2: Seamus Seamus special time. It doesn't sound like Auburn Alabama, 1386 01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:10,080 Speaker 2: So what's it gonna be? 1387 01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,440 Speaker 7: Alabama? That was a pick I gave that earlier. 1388 01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:17,560 Speaker 8: If you're watching one game today, it's not a college 1389 01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:21,880 Speaker 8: basketball game. It simply must be USA Canada eight o'clock 1390 01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,360 Speaker 8: Eastern in the four Nations face off in Mancha. It's 1391 01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,720 Speaker 8: going to be an electric atmosphere. And I go to 1392 01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:32,240 Speaker 8: a player prop here. Brady could Chuck was all over 1393 01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:36,520 Speaker 8: the ice for USA against Finland in their game last Wednesday. 1394 01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:38,880 Speaker 8: I mean, this guy, he's getting bumped up to the 1395 01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:41,480 Speaker 8: first line. It looks like from what we're seeing with 1396 01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:45,160 Speaker 8: his brother, Matt and Jack Eichel, those three guys were 1397 01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:48,080 Speaker 8: probably the three best forwards for the team in that game. 1398 01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,040 Speaker 8: I like Brady could Chuck to score a goal here. 1399 01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,480 Speaker 8: I think he gets some pretty good odds because he's 1400 01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,040 Speaker 8: skitting with the third line the first game. But I 1401 01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:58,160 Speaker 8: don't know, maybe it looks like the markets will slow to, 1402 01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:01,520 Speaker 8: you know, figure him out on the on the top line. 1403 01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:03,160 Speaker 8: I think there's a lot of goals in that game. 1404 01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:06,320 Speaker 8: It's you know, it's someone on Cana has said this tournament, 1405 01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:08,960 Speaker 8: they take sweetens the fastest hockey game you ever played in. 1406 01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:11,720 Speaker 8: You have the best hockey players in the world save 1407 01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,680 Speaker 8: the Russians playing in this and there's just so much 1408 01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:17,000 Speaker 8: speed out there. I could see some goals in this game. 1409 01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:21,639 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, love that Four Nations, very nice, all right, 1410 01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:24,760 Speaker 2: good stuff is always here. Seamus I hope you have 1411 01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,479 Speaker 2: a great day and maybe not as successful as the 1412 01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:28,040 Speaker 2: Super Bowl. 1413 01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,200 Speaker 3: You know, maybe not, but it's. 1414 01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,519 Speaker 8: Gonna be those for a while. 1415 01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:34,480 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 1416 01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,320 Speaker 2: We'll catch you soon though. Thank you for your time, Seamus. 1417 01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:41,120 Speaker 2: As always, thanks guys. There he is Seamus McGee, team 1418 01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:45,920 Speaker 2: lead of Sports Trading at bet MGM. Okay, let's keep 1419 01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:49,880 Speaker 2: the hoops talk going over here. First thing, you guys, 1420 01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:52,760 Speaker 2: see the one on one tournament that was going on 1421 01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:56,400 Speaker 2: last night in the unrivaled league, like literally. 1422 01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:56,679 Speaker 3: One on one. 1423 01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,680 Speaker 2: Wouldn't you love to see that in the NBA? Are 1424 01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:04,439 Speaker 2: you all Star weekend? Like what the Dunk Contest has 1425 01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:07,240 Speaker 2: turned into with a bunch of no names disaster, You 1426 01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:10,720 Speaker 2: could spruce up the weekend massively if you add a 1427 01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:14,679 Speaker 2: little bracket one on one and players were actually invested 1428 01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:16,880 Speaker 2: in that, that could be unbelievable. 1429 01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:18,120 Speaker 3: I would love to see that. 1430 01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:20,559 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think that. 1431 01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:24,639 Speaker 6: I think that in general, what fans are missing when 1432 01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:28,599 Speaker 6: it comes to All Star weekend, well, you know what, 1433 01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:30,760 Speaker 6: let's expand. 1434 01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:31,919 Speaker 5: This to all sports. 1435 01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:35,960 Speaker 6: All Star weekend in baseball and basketball, Pro Bowl for 1436 01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:41,760 Speaker 6: football is the feeling that the players really care that anything, 1437 01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:46,120 Speaker 6: whether it be integrity or interest, is. 1438 01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:49,559 Speaker 5: Really on the line. I think that's what makes it fun. 1439 01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,880 Speaker 6: Now again, all of those festivities are more geared for 1440 01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:57,879 Speaker 6: a younger crowd. But if you have a sports betting culture, 1441 01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:01,280 Speaker 6: which the United States sports viewing culture is turning to, 1442 01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:06,479 Speaker 6: more competitiveness is important. You know, nobody wants to, you know, 1443 01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:09,599 Speaker 6: put their real hard earned cash on something where they 1444 01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:13,760 Speaker 6: don't think the results are all that uh fought for. 1445 01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,439 Speaker 5: I guess is the best way it could come up with. 1446 01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:20,000 Speaker 6: Uh, it's you want you want to feel like not 1447 01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:23,880 Speaker 6: only are you vying for a win, but also those 1448 01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,800 Speaker 6: who you're placing your wageron are vying. 1449 01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:27,679 Speaker 5: For a win. Yeah. 1450 01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:31,160 Speaker 4: I think the NBA All Star weekend needs a major renovation. 1451 01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:35,680 Speaker 4: It needs some botox facelift, little micro needling, I mean, 1452 01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:41,559 Speaker 4: something just to revitalize what is happening something something, I 1453 01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:45,120 Speaker 4: mean it's suck out. Yeah, And it got to the 1454 01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:48,640 Speaker 4: point now where so I wrote a paper about this 1455 01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:52,040 Speaker 4: in college. The definition of a sport and the way 1456 01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:54,320 Speaker 4: that I defined it is the most purest form of 1457 01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:58,040 Speaker 4: sport is one that there is no outside, you know, 1458 01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:02,640 Speaker 4: interference with who decide two wins. So anything that is 1459 01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,719 Speaker 4: based on a judge saying I think miss. 1460 01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:07,919 Speaker 7: Triple axle is better than that triple axle. 1461 01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:11,120 Speaker 4: I get a little bit clammy on on the result, 1462 01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:13,519 Speaker 4: Like it's really hard to do. And I'm not saying 1463 01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:16,960 Speaker 4: gymnastics or figure skating isn't a sport. I'm saying it 1464 01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:21,040 Speaker 4: is not the purest form of sport because the action 1465 01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,560 Speaker 4: is not being decided on the playing surface. It is 1466 01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:27,640 Speaker 4: being decided upstairs by a judge. You cannot have the 1467 01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,920 Speaker 4: dunk contest continue to linger on in obscurity with this stuff. 1468 01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:34,559 Speaker 4: We need to revitalize this weekend. They have tried so 1469 01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:37,559 Speaker 4: many ways, they tried to elam ending. Now they're doing 1470 01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:40,519 Speaker 4: this weird four way thing. It's like a it's like 1471 01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:44,080 Speaker 4: an orgy of bad basketball. It's just, it's just, it's 1472 01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:48,559 Speaker 4: just we need a shape. The NBA All Star weekend 1473 01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:51,679 Speaker 4: used to be my favorite weekend of this month. 1474 01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:53,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, it was. 1475 01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:55,000 Speaker 3: Vince Carter saying it's over. 1476 01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:59,160 Speaker 4: It was Nate Robinson five whatever, jumping over people like, 1477 01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:02,640 Speaker 4: we need to figure out a way to get that 1478 01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,800 Speaker 4: excitement back. The NBA's got they've got a problem with 1479 01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:07,840 Speaker 4: this All Star weekend. I don't think they have any 1480 01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,160 Speaker 4: idea what to do with it. It's not like the NFL, 1481 01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:11,840 Speaker 4: where it's a throwaway at the end of the year. 1482 01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:15,439 Speaker 4: It's smack dab in the middle of the season and 1483 01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:19,840 Speaker 4: nobody gives a hoot. Nobody cares. Even the three point 1484 01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:23,400 Speaker 4: contest is getting a little bit of a like vibes, 1485 01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:26,800 Speaker 4: but it's not what it was, And I think we 1486 01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:28,760 Speaker 4: I don't know what the answer is. I think one 1487 01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:31,760 Speaker 4: on one's a good idea, Lebron against Giannis. 1488 01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:33,759 Speaker 7: Like, are you kidding me? The problem is those guys 1489 01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:34,720 Speaker 7: don't want to do it. 1490 01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,000 Speaker 4: You have to pay them, you have to incentivize them 1491 01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:38,400 Speaker 4: to do it. That might be the only way to 1492 01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:40,799 Speaker 4: get these big names back in an All Star weekend. 1493 01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:44,679 Speaker 3: Well, I still love the three point contest. But that's 1494 01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:45,000 Speaker 3: the thing. 1495 01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:47,400 Speaker 2: This is gonna sound like, you know, old man yelling 1496 01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:48,759 Speaker 2: at clouds, but it's true. 1497 01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:51,439 Speaker 3: It became cool to not care. 1498 01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:55,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the that's the reality here of All Star 1499 01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:58,960 Speaker 2: weekend where no one, no big names care about doing 1500 01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:02,600 Speaker 2: the dunk contest, no big names care about playing in 1501 01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,800 Speaker 2: the All Star Game. Right, It wasn't that long ago. 1502 01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:07,880 Speaker 2: It was maybe one of the first years of the 1503 01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,719 Speaker 2: elam ending. It was actually pretty good. Like that fourth 1504 01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:13,360 Speaker 2: quarter they were really competing and it was it was 1505 01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:17,400 Speaker 2: worth watching. And man, these last few years it has 1506 01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:22,080 Speaker 2: been freaking brutal. It's I love the NBA. It's unwatchable, 1507 01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:25,479 Speaker 2: it really is. And this goofy four team thing, I 1508 01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,080 Speaker 2: don't know, man, Like we have one of these teams 1509 01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:30,600 Speaker 2: like last night there's a bunch of young guys, a 1510 01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:32,800 Speaker 2: bunch of non all stars going up against an all 1511 01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:33,320 Speaker 2: star team. 1512 01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:36,280 Speaker 3: It's like, what are we doing over here? But that's 1513 01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:37,320 Speaker 3: at the heart of it. 1514 01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:40,920 Speaker 2: No matter how you repackage it, no matter how you 1515 01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:44,639 Speaker 2: try to put lipstick on the pig. If they don't care, 1516 01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,840 Speaker 2: it's gonna suck no matter what the format is. 1517 01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:50,320 Speaker 3: And I just hate that it's turned into that. 1518 01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:54,000 Speaker 2: You see some of these highlights of like when Jordan 1519 01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:55,400 Speaker 2: and Kobe were going, they. 1520 01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:57,000 Speaker 3: Were going at it it all star. 1521 01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,479 Speaker 2: They used to be a lot of fun and the 1522 01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:02,680 Speaker 2: last hand full of years there's just no effort whatsoever. 1523 01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:05,880 Speaker 2: And it's sad if you're used to watching what it 1524 01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,120 Speaker 2: used to be. It used to actually be a competition. 1525 01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:09,599 Speaker 2: It's not even close to that now. 1526 01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:10,320 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1527 01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:15,599 Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel for NBA fans who were born of 1528 01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:22,400 Speaker 6: our generation because I've like, if you were a kid 1529 01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:26,280 Speaker 6: during the nineties, right, you got to watch an era 1530 01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:31,120 Speaker 6: of basketball where players played for pride during All Star Games, 1531 01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:34,599 Speaker 6: and All Star Weekend was a big deal. Like Jared mentioned, 1532 01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:36,839 Speaker 6: it was one of the best parts of the sports 1533 01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:40,920 Speaker 6: calendar because there's a lull after the Super Bowl, right Like, 1534 01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,040 Speaker 6: so all of a sudden, your attention turns to the 1535 01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:45,719 Speaker 6: NBA and you have this opportunity to see the best 1536 01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:50,400 Speaker 6: stars actually fighting and clawing through an exhibition. 1537 01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:54,400 Speaker 5: It was the coolest. It really felt like the soft 1538 01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:56,519 Speaker 5: launch to the NBA season. 1539 01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,040 Speaker 6: Now, granted they had been playing for forty games to 1540 01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:01,799 Speaker 6: that point, but nobody he was paying as much attention 1541 01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:04,639 Speaker 6: until the All Star Game, and it really has faded. 1542 01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:07,519 Speaker 6: It is faded to the point where the NBA has 1543 01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:11,479 Speaker 6: now how to create this play in tournament to make 1544 01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:14,360 Speaker 6: a larger field than the playoffs, to actually get people 1545 01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:18,840 Speaker 6: motivated to pay attention to their sport with an expanded postseason. 1546 01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:20,000 Speaker 5: And it's sad. 1547 01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:23,559 Speaker 6: Yeah, and the NBA needs a big facelift, There's no 1548 01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:24,400 Speaker 6: question about it. 1549 01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:25,080 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1550 01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:25,760 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 1551 01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:29,759 Speaker 2: That's Rich Orenberger, Penn State All American, Jared Smith FSR 1552 01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:33,920 Speaker 2: betting analyst with US. I'm Brian no On Fridays, BETMGM, 1553 01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:37,840 Speaker 2: authorized gaming operator of the NBA, is making first field 1554 01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:41,320 Speaker 2: goal scorer wagers more exciting with second Chance. 1555 01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:42,240 Speaker 3: What second chance? 1556 01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:42,479 Speaker 5: Well? 1557 01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:44,559 Speaker 2: You ever bet on your favorite player to score the 1558 01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:47,000 Speaker 2: first field goal only to see him make an assist 1559 01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,000 Speaker 2: to his teammate for an easy layup. 1560 01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:49,960 Speaker 3: Not great? 1561 01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:53,960 Speaker 2: But with betmgm's second Chance, you'll get your stake back 1562 01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:57,759 Speaker 2: in cash if your first field goal scorer score second 1563 01:15:57,960 --> 01:15:59,080 Speaker 2: instead of first. 1564 01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:02,639 Speaker 3: Right right around the corner, prop it up. 1565 01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:05,880 Speaker 2: Huh, we got the prop bet market all raring to go. 1566 01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:09,479 Speaker 2: Here with a huge college basketball Saturday, we'll compare notes. 1567 01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:09,880 Speaker 5: Coming up. 1568 01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:13,960 Speaker 2: It's Fox Sports Radios Countdown presented by BEDMGM. It is 1569 01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:18,680 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radios Countdown presented by BETMGM. Be sure to 1570 01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:21,479 Speaker 2: check out the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. Just search 1571 01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:24,519 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio on YouTube and you'll see a whole 1572 01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:27,400 Speaker 2: bunch of video highlights from our shows. Be sure to 1573 01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:30,439 Speaker 2: subscribe so you'll always have instant access to our Fox 1574 01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:33,640 Speaker 2: Sports Radio videos on YouTube. 1575 01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:35,240 Speaker 3: All right, let's do this. 1576 01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:38,719 Speaker 1: Prop it up player plays. 1577 01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,640 Speaker 3: Look at the brand new imaging. I heard the sneakers 1578 01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:44,679 Speaker 3: squeaking right there. 1579 01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:45,440 Speaker 5: Huh. 1580 01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:45,920 Speaker 3: Let's go. 1581 01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:48,920 Speaker 2: We got some college basketball plays. Today, Jared, what are 1582 01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:49,719 Speaker 2: you looking at that, buddy? 1583 01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:49,920 Speaker 5: Oh? 1584 01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:53,160 Speaker 7: You know I've got college basketball props for you. So 1585 01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:55,519 Speaker 7: I do like the over in this Wisconsin Perdue game 1586 01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:57,679 Speaker 7: a lot. It's priced at one to fifty and a half. 1587 01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:00,760 Speaker 4: So let's take it a layer deeper and let's figure 1588 01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:02,840 Speaker 4: out what's gonna be the vibe of the game. And 1589 01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:04,840 Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be a lot of pick and roll. 1590 01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:08,040 Speaker 4: That's what Purdue loves to play. Braiden Smith the number 1591 01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:11,960 Speaker 4: one assist rate man in the country. He's had ten 1592 01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:15,680 Speaker 4: games this year of double digit assists and again high 1593 01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:18,599 Speaker 4: scoring game, high total, a lot of points, a lot 1594 01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:20,840 Speaker 4: of buckets, a lot of assists. His number at bet 1595 01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:23,760 Speaker 4: MGM is seven and a half plus money to the over. 1596 01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:26,200 Speaker 7: I think that number closes higher. 1597 01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:27,600 Speaker 4: In fact, that wouldn't be shocked to seeing eight and 1598 01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:29,000 Speaker 4: a half pretty soon, even maybe. 1599 01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:29,720 Speaker 5: After we give this out. 1600 01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:31,559 Speaker 7: But Braiden Smith over. 1601 01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:33,880 Speaker 4: Seven and a half assists. I love This game feels 1602 01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,960 Speaker 4: like a tempo game between the Boilers and the Badgers today. 1603 01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:39,479 Speaker 4: So I think Brayden Smith with Trey Kaufin Wren, he 1604 01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:41,320 Speaker 4: is the roller to the pick. 1605 01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:43,080 Speaker 7: I think you're gonna see a lot of. 1606 01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:44,439 Speaker 5: Assists today from Brayden. 1607 01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:47,479 Speaker 6: Can't keep my eyes off of this number one, number 1608 01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:52,320 Speaker 6: two matchup Auburn Alabama. I'm I'm looking at the Miles 1609 01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:56,320 Speaker 6: Kelly three point prop. I may I may take the 1610 01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:59,120 Speaker 6: over there, but Johnny Broom is going to get his. 1611 01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:03,800 Speaker 6: He is contention for the player of the year in 1612 01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:07,840 Speaker 6: the country. Big man, He's gonna get his. This is 1613 01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:10,800 Speaker 6: gonna be high scoring affair nineteen and a half. I 1614 01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:14,960 Speaker 6: think his player prop sores pass over on the point total. 1615 01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:18,040 Speaker 5: Give me, give me Johnny Bruman over on points. 1616 01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:21,839 Speaker 3: Okay, here's the thing. I'm looking at the same. 1617 01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:26,880 Speaker 2: Game, auburnett at Alabama, and we're anticipating a track meet. 1618 01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:28,960 Speaker 3: A lot of shots, a lot. 1619 01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:30,920 Speaker 2: Of makes you know, hopefully if you're on the over, 1620 01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:32,639 Speaker 2: but there's gonna be a lot of misses. 1621 01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:35,519 Speaker 3: It's just number one, number two teams in. 1622 01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:40,360 Speaker 2: Terms of offensive efficiency pass up there. 1623 01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:41,840 Speaker 3: So I expect the track meet. 1624 01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,320 Speaker 2: One of the random things I'm expecting a couple of 1625 01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:47,760 Speaker 2: long rebounds. 1626 01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:52,800 Speaker 3: Let's stark a guard with rebounding. Here, give me Auburn. 1627 01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:56,760 Speaker 2: Guard Denver Jones over two and a half rebounds. Why 1628 01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:59,559 Speaker 2: he's not known as a rebounder our guy jan I 1629 01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:02,320 Speaker 2: broom Is. It's fantastic that guy might have double digit 1630 01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:06,360 Speaker 2: rebounds in this game. But give me Denver Jones to 1631 01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:09,839 Speaker 2: get to three rebounds. He's had at least three rebounds 1632 01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:13,760 Speaker 2: in four of its last six games, so I anticipated. 1633 01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:15,759 Speaker 3: Some opportunities here where it's just a loose. 1634 01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:17,080 Speaker 5: Ball, long rebound. 1635 01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:20,200 Speaker 3: I'd say it finds Denver Jones at least three times today. 1636 01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:21,760 Speaker 7: What do we don't have a problem with that? 1637 01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:23,800 Speaker 5: Okay, I think more more point. 1638 01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:25,920 Speaker 4: That's actually a kind of misconception with a lot of 1639 01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:27,120 Speaker 4: the high total games. 1640 01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:31,680 Speaker 7: You think lower total games, more misses, more rebounds. But 1641 01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:33,759 Speaker 7: I prefer the more. 1642 01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:36,920 Speaker 4: Shots, more rebounds, more volume of shots. I think that's 1643 01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:38,840 Speaker 4: where the vibe is in this band game. 1644 01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:40,519 Speaker 7: I'll be honest. I think the total is so I 1645 01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:43,280 Speaker 7: would I would not bet over with a total in 1646 01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:46,280 Speaker 7: one seventy. I am so many. 1647 01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:48,120 Speaker 5: I don't care. 1648 01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:49,840 Speaker 3: I'm doing drought and it's over. 1649 01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:50,439 Speaker 5: I don't care. 1650 01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,439 Speaker 2: We got paced, we got three point shooting. We're going over, 1651 01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:54,280 Speaker 2: baby track me. 1652 01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:56,800 Speaker 7: I've also bet the under, but I don't know if 1653 01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:57,439 Speaker 7: i'd bet the opper. 1654 01:19:57,760 --> 01:19:58,160 Speaker 5: I hear you. 1655 01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:00,360 Speaker 3: I'm also what do you guys think of this. I'm 1656 01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:03,160 Speaker 3: gonna go with Brant Nelson, just ask one to three. 1657 01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:07,479 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it track feed Earlier against Kentucky he had 1658 01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:09,360 Speaker 2: seven three point attempts. 1659 01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:12,639 Speaker 4: Yes, he's gonna step out because he's gonna bring broom 1660 01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:13,519 Speaker 4: away from the basket. 1661 01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:15,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna take too. 1662 01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:18,840 Speaker 2: All right, coming up next, If anyone wants to sell 1663 01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:22,080 Speaker 2: this team stock, I will happily buy it. Oh what 1664 01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:24,920 Speaker 2: is going on? I hope you're having a fantastic Saturday. 1665 01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:28,439 Speaker 2: Thanks for being here. You know, we will fully embrace 1666 01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:32,120 Speaker 2: hoop season as we go along here, but uh ball 1667 01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:34,120 Speaker 2: is still gonna be part of the chatter. 1668 01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:34,519 Speaker 5: You know. 1669 01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:36,839 Speaker 2: We got the draft and the not too distant future. 1670 01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:40,320 Speaker 2: We'll talk about that when the new odds come out. 1671 01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:43,720 Speaker 2: Football wise, we'll dive into that. And I just have 1672 01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:48,760 Speaker 2: to I gotta go mini rant for it just just 1673 01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:51,920 Speaker 2: a minute here, Jared, you mentioned this early in the show, 1674 01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:57,599 Speaker 2: where the overreaction to the Chiefs going forward. Yeah, they 1675 01:20:57,600 --> 01:21:00,160 Speaker 2: got punked by the Eagles in the Super Bowl. We 1676 01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:04,519 Speaker 2: all saw what happened. But the overreaction of where the 1677 01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:08,280 Speaker 2: Chiefs go next, it's been a steady diet of oh well, 1678 01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:11,000 Speaker 2: this sucks about the roster and that sucks it. Oh 1679 01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:15,960 Speaker 2: my gosh, the arrows pointed down cautionary tale, major warning signs. 1680 01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:19,040 Speaker 2: It's like, guys, let's hold on for a second here. 1681 01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:22,880 Speaker 2: Do you realize when they got crushed by Tampa in 1682 01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:26,040 Speaker 2: Super Bowl fifty five that they won two of the 1683 01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:27,439 Speaker 2: next three Super Bowls? 1684 01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:28,120 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1685 01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:30,719 Speaker 3: Right, Like, just keep that in mind. 1686 01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:35,760 Speaker 2: I know they got squashed, but to think like Mahomes 1687 01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:39,280 Speaker 2: just sucks going forward, Like what are we doing? There's 1688 01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:41,800 Speaker 2: been far too much of that over the week where 1689 01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:43,800 Speaker 2: it's just, oh my gosh. 1690 01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:44,400 Speaker 3: They make it. 1691 01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:47,320 Speaker 2: Sound like they'd be lucky to win ten games and 1692 01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:50,040 Speaker 2: challenge for the AFC West. It's like they've been in 1693 01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:53,759 Speaker 2: the AFC title game seven straight years. Why are people 1694 01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:56,960 Speaker 2: just willingly selling their Chief stock. I'll buy it, man, 1695 01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:59,160 Speaker 2: I think this is time to buy some stock. 1696 01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:00,160 Speaker 5: I'm with you. 1697 01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:03,360 Speaker 6: I am one hundred percent with you. The same way 1698 01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:09,679 Speaker 6: Jalen Hurts was undoubtedly motivated by the Super Bowl loss 1699 01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:13,080 Speaker 6: to the Chiefs. I think Patrick Mahomes shares a similar 1700 01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:17,679 Speaker 6: furiosity after a game like that because it wasn't his fault. 1701 01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:19,360 Speaker 5: It really wasn't. Now. 1702 01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:22,559 Speaker 6: I understand he threw interceptions, but when you were under 1703 01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:26,240 Speaker 6: that level of duress. Throughout the course of a football game, 1704 01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:29,719 Speaker 6: you don't have very many good options, and I actually 1705 01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:32,800 Speaker 6: appreciate a quarterback who kind of goes for it. In 1706 01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:36,840 Speaker 6: a game like that. Nothing was going well for the Chiefs. 1707 01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:41,960 Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes was under consistent pressure, and it wasn't because 1708 01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:45,240 Speaker 6: he was making poor decisions or patting the ball in 1709 01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:46,320 Speaker 6: the pocket and. 1710 01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:48,120 Speaker 5: He was too slow. 1711 01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:52,479 Speaker 6: Nobody was getting open, and his offensive linemen were getting 1712 01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:56,040 Speaker 6: individually beat and giving up a tremendous amount of pressure. 1713 01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:59,320 Speaker 6: And so when that happens, you have to force a 1714 01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:02,479 Speaker 6: couple of bats throws to try to make something, to 1715 01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:04,920 Speaker 6: try to turn the tide, to try to grab a 1716 01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:07,559 Speaker 6: chunk play, to try to make something explosive happen. 1717 01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:12,320 Speaker 5: And like you said, Brian, this isn't the start of 1718 01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:13,040 Speaker 5: a decline. 1719 01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:16,120 Speaker 6: This was a really bad game in a really bad moment, 1720 01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:22,320 Speaker 6: which every single great player in the history of literally 1721 01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:25,559 Speaker 6: every sport has played a real bad game in a 1722 01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:26,639 Speaker 6: real bad spot. 1723 01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:29,280 Speaker 5: It's a part of being an athlete. It's the reason 1724 01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:30,160 Speaker 5: why we love. 1725 01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:35,759 Speaker 6: Sports because there are no predictable outcomes. Now you may say, well, 1726 01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:39,719 Speaker 6: when the officials are in the Chiefs pockets there are. 1727 01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:43,320 Speaker 6: It's like, Okay, if that were true, then the Chiefs 1728 01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:46,240 Speaker 6: would have won the Super Bowl, but they didn't, so 1729 01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:50,519 Speaker 6: that narrative falls on deaf ears. Now here's the reality. 1730 01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:54,040 Speaker 6: Brian and Jared, I know you feel similarly about the Chiefs. 1731 01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:59,160 Speaker 6: It really is like, until proven otherwise, this is right 1732 01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:03,080 Speaker 6: now the bar. They're setting the bar in the NFL, 1733 01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:08,200 Speaker 6: and those who can scrape up underneath it, well they'll 1734 01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:09,880 Speaker 6: be in contention in the AFC. 1735 01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:12,160 Speaker 5: But the Chiefs they've set the bar. 1736 01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:15,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think you get to this point in 1737 01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:19,840 Speaker 4: Mahomes's career and like, what are we talking about here? 1738 01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:24,679 Speaker 4: It's the overreaction to one game. But then you get to, Okay, well, 1739 01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:27,000 Speaker 4: what are the Chiefs going to be next year? Probably 1740 01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:29,840 Speaker 4: the same team. They're gonna be a team that doesn't 1741 01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:32,479 Speaker 4: dominate the regular season because they don't need to, and 1742 01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:34,520 Speaker 4: they're gonna be a team that shows up in January 1743 01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:38,280 Speaker 4: and they're the same nails defense with a great, elite 1744 01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:39,000 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame. 1745 01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:40,400 Speaker 7: Quarterback that they've always had. 1746 01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:45,599 Speaker 4: And I think the overreaction is just the natural ebbs 1747 01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:50,479 Speaker 4: and flows of again, our sports media landscape, which is never, never, 1748 01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:52,559 Speaker 4: there's never any in between. 1749 01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:56,200 Speaker 7: It's either all to one side or all to the 1750 01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:56,800 Speaker 7: other side. 1751 01:24:56,840 --> 01:25:00,400 Speaker 4: Like you can't just objectively look at a game and say, yeah, 1752 01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:02,840 Speaker 4: the Eagles were better. The Eagles were the best team 1753 01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:04,840 Speaker 4: in the NFL this year, best roster in the NFL, 1754 01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:07,320 Speaker 4: probably should have been favored in the game, but they 1755 01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:10,920 Speaker 4: weren't because Mahomes is God and nobody. You know, if 1756 01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:13,320 Speaker 4: you think bet MGM made a lot of money on 1757 01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:16,960 Speaker 4: the game if the Eagles were a dog, imagine if 1758 01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,920 Speaker 4: the if the Chiefs were the dog, how much more 1759 01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,519 Speaker 4: money would have come in on Kansas City. Bet MGM 1760 01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:25,360 Speaker 4: actually did y'all a favor keeping Kansas City favored in 1761 01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:28,320 Speaker 4: the game, because I can't imagine. 1762 01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:31,160 Speaker 7: The overflow of money if Philly would have been the favorite. 1763 01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:34,680 Speaker 4: But I, like Brian, I just think this is this 1764 01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:37,520 Speaker 4: is par for the course for our media landscape, Like we. 1765 01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:39,799 Speaker 7: Just don't know how to react. 1766 01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:43,760 Speaker 4: It's always an overreaction, and I think the reaction to 1767 01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:46,880 Speaker 4: what we saw someday the Eagles were better than the Chiefs, 1768 01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:49,080 Speaker 4: but it doesn't mean the Chiefs are worse than the 1769 01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:52,640 Speaker 4: Texans or the Bills. I mean, I still if you 1770 01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:55,920 Speaker 4: line those teams up tomorrow and it was Chiefs Bills 1771 01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:58,040 Speaker 4: again in the AFC Title Game. I bet Kansas City 1772 01:25:58,080 --> 01:25:59,800 Speaker 4: again and they probably win again. 1773 01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:02,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, And I think if they played the 1774 01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:06,120 Speaker 2: Super Bowl ten times between the Chiefs and the Eagles, 1775 01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:07,960 Speaker 2: do you think it would have gone the same way? 1776 01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:11,439 Speaker 2: Like the Eagles smack them around most of I don't 1777 01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:11,840 Speaker 2: think so. 1778 01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:13,920 Speaker 4: I read think more often than not, the Eagles would 1779 01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:15,879 Speaker 4: have won. I don't know about forty to twenty. 1780 01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:18,360 Speaker 2: Two, right right, right exactly, Like maybe they win six 1781 01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:20,680 Speaker 2: out of ten, maybe they go six and four, But 1782 01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:24,519 Speaker 2: of those five other wins, if that's the number, they're 1783 01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:27,080 Speaker 2: not boat racing them. I just don't think it would 1784 01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:30,559 Speaker 2: be a consistent trend. But I also look at other teams, 1785 01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:32,840 Speaker 2: like take the Chiefs out of it. Think about the Broncos. 1786 01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:36,080 Speaker 2: Remember when the Broncos lost forty three to eight in 1787 01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:39,559 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, they won the Super Bowl two years later, 1788 01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:42,679 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like they had a good roster, 1789 01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:45,120 Speaker 2: and you look at the Chiefs roster. You get Rashie 1790 01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:47,800 Speaker 2: Rice back, You got Rashie Rice matched. 1791 01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:50,000 Speaker 3: With Xavier Worthy. That's pretty good. 1792 01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:52,599 Speaker 2: You need a left tackle so Joe Toney can kick 1793 01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:55,240 Speaker 2: down to guard his natural position. You can run the 1794 01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:59,360 Speaker 2: ball more effectively. But defensively, you've got Chris Jones, Trent McDuffie, 1795 01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:01,800 Speaker 2: you got Spat, You've got a lot to work with. 1796 01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:04,599 Speaker 2: You just can't lose sight of that. I also think 1797 01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:08,240 Speaker 2: about this, does yours honest question? Does your top ten 1798 01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:10,519 Speaker 2: quarterback list to begin with Mahomes right now? 1799 01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:11,760 Speaker 3: Because mine still does? 1800 01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:12,479 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1801 01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:13,599 Speaker 3: Absolutely right. 1802 01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:16,280 Speaker 2: So you got the best quarterback in the league. Yeah, 1803 01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:19,240 Speaker 2: he came off an all time stinker. But you're gonna 1804 01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:22,920 Speaker 2: sell your stock with the best quarterback in the league 1805 01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:27,920 Speaker 2: matched with Andy Reid and a legit roster. Okay, Okay, 1806 01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:30,720 Speaker 2: it's not the time to sell. What do you guys 1807 01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:31,799 Speaker 2: think about Travis Kelcey? 1808 01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:32,439 Speaker 3: Has he done? 1809 01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:35,400 Speaker 2: He's got until March fourteenth, he's got one month to 1810 01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:37,200 Speaker 2: decide if he's gonna play next season. 1811 01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:38,160 Speaker 3: Does he run it back? 1812 01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:39,439 Speaker 5: I think you will. 1813 01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:43,920 Speaker 6: I think he will because I think Kansas City, you know, 1814 01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:47,719 Speaker 6: to really finish off the point you just made about 1815 01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:53,680 Speaker 6: the Chiefs, I think the Kansas City Chiefs campaign at 1816 01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:56,679 Speaker 6: the top of the NFL isn't even close to being finished. 1817 01:27:57,200 --> 01:28:00,400 Speaker 6: And so Travis Kelcey, if he feels like he's got 1818 01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:03,960 Speaker 6: any tread left on the tire. You got to stick 1819 01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:07,160 Speaker 6: this out. I mean, he's got another year on the contract. 1820 01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:11,560 Speaker 6: He is one of the most talented and devastatingly effective 1821 01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:14,880 Speaker 6: players when he's playing well. This season was a down year. 1822 01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:18,000 Speaker 6: Does he want to finish on a dour note? I 1823 01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:22,800 Speaker 6: don't think so. I think the competitive nature of of 1824 01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:26,840 Speaker 6: most athletes, but especially football players, is going to fuel 1825 01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:32,240 Speaker 6: him for one last offseason. And there's also somewhat of 1826 01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:35,959 Speaker 6: a springboard, right that you're looking for when you're finishing 1827 01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:39,680 Speaker 6: your career and you're you're you're moving headlong into the 1828 01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:43,240 Speaker 6: next that that off ramp can be long. 1829 01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:43,760 Speaker 5: You know. 1830 01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:47,200 Speaker 6: Tom Brady, for example, after a career of greatness in 1831 01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:51,320 Speaker 6: the NFL, it it didn't feel like he came to 1832 01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:54,880 Speaker 6: the end as smoothly as people thought he would like. 1833 01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:58,000 Speaker 6: There was some speculation he would would retire. There was 1834 01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:01,280 Speaker 6: a retirement announcement, and then he came out of retirement 1835 01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:04,200 Speaker 6: to play one more season, and then it sounded like 1836 01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:06,640 Speaker 6: he was going to get right into the booth broadcasting, 1837 01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:10,360 Speaker 6: and he ended up taking a year and collecting himself 1838 01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:13,360 Speaker 6: before getting it to work with Fox. So I don't 1839 01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:17,400 Speaker 6: think he seems ready yet to me to move on 1840 01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:19,840 Speaker 6: from the game and move on to the rest of 1841 01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:22,439 Speaker 6: his life whatever whatever that'll look like. 1842 01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:26,599 Speaker 5: So yeah, I think Kelsey will be back. I don't know. 1843 01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:31,040 Speaker 7: I mean, I think there's a lot of physical. 1844 01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:35,599 Speaker 4: Limitations at this point. And he's owed seventeen million next 1845 01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:37,000 Speaker 4: year and guaranteed money. 1846 01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:38,560 Speaker 7: Like that's a lot. 1847 01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:40,800 Speaker 4: And I think that's that's gonna be the question that 1848 01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:43,320 Speaker 4: the Chiefs have because they do have some retooling to do, 1849 01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:46,519 Speaker 4: and maybe they ask him to restructure and they and 1850 01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:50,200 Speaker 4: they get something a little bit cheaper. It sounded like, 1851 01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:52,360 Speaker 4: and I know they played the clip during our commercials 1852 01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:54,880 Speaker 4: of the New Heights where he was kind of talking 1853 01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:58,000 Speaker 4: about I think it was on Dan Patrick's show. It 1854 01:29:58,160 --> 01:29:59,960 Speaker 4: sounded like he had a lot of things to work through. 1855 01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:02,519 Speaker 4: So and again, I don't I don't know what the 1856 01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:06,120 Speaker 4: answer is. I don't know what he's thinking. I think 1857 01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:09,680 Speaker 4: he has such a bright media career in front of him, 1858 01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:12,720 Speaker 4: Like at what point do you say, Okay, physically I'm 1859 01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:14,720 Speaker 4: not the same player that I was, and obviously I 1860 01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:17,400 Speaker 4: can't compete at that level anymore, but I can still 1861 01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:20,479 Speaker 4: make a lot of money doing a lot of other things. 1862 01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:23,800 Speaker 4: It doesn't me it'll be a very interesting decision. I 1863 01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:25,479 Speaker 4: do think if he does stay, the Chiefs have to 1864 01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:27,360 Speaker 4: figure out a way to restructure. So I don't think 1865 01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:29,120 Speaker 4: you can have seventeen million on the cap for a 1866 01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:30,200 Speaker 4: tight end who's over the hill. 1867 01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:31,400 Speaker 7: I just I think that's a lot. 1868 01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:35,200 Speaker 2: I hear both of you, and it's interesting because, look, man, 1869 01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:39,280 Speaker 2: the timing of this conversation, you got to take into account. 1870 01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:42,040 Speaker 2: It reminds me a lot of his old teammate, reminds 1871 01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:45,719 Speaker 2: me a lot of Tyreek Hill. Remember after Week eighteen, 1872 01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:52,120 Speaker 2: Dolphins lose to the Jets of yeah, Tyler Huntley can't 1873 01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:53,040 Speaker 2: can't throw. 1874 01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:54,479 Speaker 3: The ball to Tyreek at all. 1875 01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:57,720 Speaker 2: They missed the playoffs, and Tyreek's like, I gotta get 1876 01:30:57,760 --> 01:31:00,920 Speaker 2: out of here, right, And then you give it a 1877 01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:03,600 Speaker 2: couple of weeks and he's like, nah, I kind of 1878 01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:07,160 Speaker 2: like Miami, I don't you know. And so with Travis Kelsey, 1879 01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:10,719 Speaker 2: it'd be like be like going to the gym for 1880 01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:15,120 Speaker 2: at least a week straight and having these grueling workouts 1881 01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:18,800 Speaker 2: and then on the final day someone sticks a microphone 1882 01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:20,679 Speaker 2: in your face and says, hey, how do you feel 1883 01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:23,759 Speaker 2: right now? And you're just like, I'm spent, man, Gosh, 1884 01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:29,360 Speaker 2: everything hurts, everything aches, and I guarantee that's how Travis 1885 01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:31,120 Speaker 2: Kelsey play it feels right now. 1886 01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:34,200 Speaker 3: And he did mention that it's tough. 1887 01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:35,720 Speaker 2: When he's not able to do the things that he 1888 01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:38,599 Speaker 2: once was able to do, and that might be the 1889 01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:41,920 Speaker 2: honest reality where he does walk away because he's not 1890 01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:45,519 Speaker 2: the same player anymore. But I also think the timing 1891 01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:48,600 Speaker 2: of when he's making these comments you give it a 1892 01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:52,000 Speaker 2: month fair and that might change a lot of what 1893 01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:55,080 Speaker 2: he thinks where you gotta gear up big time. That's 1894 01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:58,120 Speaker 2: a huge commitment to play one more year. But he 1895 01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:00,400 Speaker 2: might say I'm up for it, and I don't want 1896 01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:02,439 Speaker 2: to go out like that. I want to have one 1897 01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:04,439 Speaker 2: more year here. I would not be surprised at all 1898 01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:06,719 Speaker 2: if he comes back. I wouldn't be surprised either way. 1899 01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:07,320 Speaker 7: Agree. 1900 01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:11,040 Speaker 2: But I think if you give it three four weeks, 1901 01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:13,400 Speaker 2: I think your perspective changes a lot. 1902 01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:17,960 Speaker 6: The Travis Kelcey conversation is a difficult one because you 1903 01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:20,120 Speaker 6: have to start bringing up almost the. 1904 01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:22,560 Speaker 5: Mortality of an athlete. 1905 01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:25,599 Speaker 6: You die too, deaths when you're an athlete, and when 1906 01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:29,920 Speaker 6: you've tasted greatness like Travis Kelcey has gotten to enjoy 1907 01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:34,320 Speaker 6: over the course of his illustrious career. Yeah, there may 1908 01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:37,320 Speaker 6: be great things waiting for him in the wings, and 1909 01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:41,320 Speaker 6: the PostScript of his career in the NFL will parlay 1910 01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:46,000 Speaker 6: nicely into a media career. But there is nothing like 1911 01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:50,519 Speaker 6: putting on the shoulder pads and pulling the jersey over 1912 01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:54,640 Speaker 6: those shoulder pads and belting up the chin strap and 1913 01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:58,360 Speaker 6: going out there with your brothers who you forged a 1914 01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:03,679 Speaker 6: bond with over years and toil and fighting for each other. 1915 01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:07,559 Speaker 6: It's the greatest part of the game. It's the part 1916 01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:09,880 Speaker 6: of the game that I miss the most, is the 1917 01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:15,519 Speaker 6: camaraderie and the laughter and the kinship and the family. 1918 01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:20,320 Speaker 6: You are leaving your family behind when you lay down 1919 01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:24,719 Speaker 6: the sword for good. That's a really, really hard decision 1920 01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:26,559 Speaker 6: to make. And that's the reason why there's a lot 1921 01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:30,679 Speaker 6: of tears and a lot of second thoughts when great players, 1922 01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:32,680 Speaker 6: especially are moulling retirement. 1923 01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:36,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's well said, and again, obviously speak to that 1924 01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:39,120 Speaker 4: because you know, other than my high school jersey, I 1925 01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:41,679 Speaker 4: can't really I can't really relate too much. 1926 01:33:41,800 --> 01:33:45,599 Speaker 2: But think about that, right, Jared, That feeling of it's 1927 01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:49,320 Speaker 2: over right, I remember taking from Think if you're still 1928 01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:52,320 Speaker 2: playing at a high level, which Kelsey is not the 1929 01:33:52,360 --> 01:33:55,240 Speaker 2: same level, but still a high level. Yeah, and he's 1930 01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:57,800 Speaker 2: still got something left in the tank. And you're making 1931 01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:00,360 Speaker 2: the decision to walk away from all of that. That 1932 01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:02,080 Speaker 2: that's that's really difficult. 1933 01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:03,200 Speaker 7: Here's my follow up. 1934 01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:06,639 Speaker 4: Do you think his relationship with his brother and how 1935 01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:08,240 Speaker 4: his brother handed because let's be honest, I think a 1936 01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:10,320 Speaker 4: lot of people thought Jason might might come back one 1937 01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:12,760 Speaker 4: more year and he decided not to. 1938 01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:16,280 Speaker 7: Do you think that situation plays a factor? 1939 01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:18,640 Speaker 4: Like, hey, Jason, you know, maybe left the year to 1940 01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:21,320 Speaker 4: her and think about it, he left the Eagles won 1941 01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:24,280 Speaker 4: the Super Bowl right years later, Like, do do you 1942 01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:28,479 Speaker 4: think that decision affects Travis's decision at all? 1943 01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:32,799 Speaker 6: It does, But also exactly what you just said, Jared, 1944 01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:34,680 Speaker 6: that part of the conversation is going to come up 1945 01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:36,439 Speaker 6: to because he's going. 1946 01:34:36,439 --> 01:34:38,599 Speaker 5: To talk to his brother Jason. They're they're close. 1947 01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:40,519 Speaker 6: I mean, they speak to each other, you know, and 1948 01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:44,040 Speaker 6: I understand like some of it's a business relationship, right, 1949 01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:48,280 Speaker 6: they're doing a podcast together. But when when like like us, right, 1950 01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:52,080 Speaker 6: you know, on you're on this you're on this radio show. 1951 01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:56,360 Speaker 6: But because we're we're partners on air, we've become friends. 1952 01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:59,559 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, these guys are partners for life. They're brothers, yea. 1953 01:34:59,800 --> 01:35:03,080 Speaker 6: And then they have this great excuse of doing this 1954 01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:06,880 Speaker 6: podcast together to stay in better touch than most siblings. 1955 01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:10,920 Speaker 6: And I guarantee he's bouncing things off a Hey, Jay, 1956 01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:13,639 Speaker 6: you know, how did it feel watching your team win 1957 01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:14,800 Speaker 6: the Super Bowl this year? 1958 01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:15,320 Speaker 5: Right? 1959 01:35:15,479 --> 01:35:17,360 Speaker 6: And you know, and when you start peeling back the 1960 01:35:17,479 --> 01:35:20,719 Speaker 6: layers of that, and you know, man, I gotta tell you, Travis, 1961 01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:22,240 Speaker 6: that was that was tough. 1962 01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:24,759 Speaker 5: You know. I wish I was out there still fighting 1963 01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:25,200 Speaker 5: with them. 1964 01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:28,800 Speaker 6: And who knows it, Maybe maybe Jason's in a better 1965 01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:31,640 Speaker 6: headspace of that. Maybe he's one hundred percent over it. 1966 01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:35,040 Speaker 6: He's happy with this next evolution of his media career 1967 01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:37,680 Speaker 6: now and he's having fabulous success and he deserves it 1968 01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:41,639 Speaker 6: because he's a supremely entertaining guy and a really talented orator. 1969 01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:47,439 Speaker 6: But and it's a big butt. There is nothing, there 1970 01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:51,519 Speaker 6: is nothing that compares to the adrenaline rush you get 1971 01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:54,360 Speaker 6: when you achieve with a group of men that you've 1972 01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:57,400 Speaker 6: been fighting with for you know, and and you know, 1973 01:35:57,439 --> 01:35:59,960 Speaker 6: and obviously making a lot of sacrifices to do that. 1974 01:36:00,160 --> 01:36:03,040 Speaker 6: It's a whole different thing. So I'm very curious about 1975 01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:05,280 Speaker 6: that conversation that Travis and Jase are going to have. 1976 01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:07,759 Speaker 5: Jared, I think it's an important piece of this puzzle. 1977 01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:09,200 Speaker 5: I get. 1978 01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:09,719 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1979 01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:10,400 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1980 01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:13,720 Speaker 2: Last thing I'll say about it is, you know, for 1981 01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:18,280 Speaker 2: anybody who's saying, hey, all these media, the opportunities that 1982 01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:20,679 Speaker 2: will come his way, they're still going to be there. Yeah, 1983 01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:22,760 Speaker 2: if he decides to play one more year, it's not 1984 01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:26,640 Speaker 2: like that just goes away. And look, I know the 1985 01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:29,120 Speaker 2: last two games, the super Bowl against the Eagles, the 1986 01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:32,879 Speaker 2: game against the Bills, he didn't do much of anything. 1987 01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:35,439 Speaker 2: But the first game of the playoffs seven catches for 1988 01:36:35,479 --> 01:36:38,560 Speaker 2: a buck seventeen and a touchdown against the Texans. You 1989 01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:40,080 Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, I think we're used to 1990 01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:42,920 Speaker 2: Kelsey playing at such a high level that we freak 1991 01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:45,400 Speaker 2: out a little bit too much when he has a 1992 01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:47,679 Speaker 2: down game or two, or it's like this guy's washed. 1993 01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:48,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1994 01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:51,439 Speaker 4: Last thing that goes back to the Mahomes discussion that 1995 01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:54,920 Speaker 4: we just had, like one bad data point, it's over, 1996 01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:55,880 Speaker 4: it's done. 1997 01:36:55,720 --> 01:36:56,320 Speaker 5: Back it up. 1998 01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:59,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, the guy can still play. What do you say, 1999 01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:02,040 Speaker 2: real fast, Jared? Coming back or retiring? 2000 01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:03,160 Speaker 7: What do you think you're retiring? 2001 01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:04,679 Speaker 3: What do you say rich coming back? 2002 01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:06,000 Speaker 5: I think he'll come back. 2003 01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:10,000 Speaker 4: I think he's coming back, but we'll see friendly mean, 2004 01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:12,280 Speaker 4: maybe go on tour with Taylor for a few months. 2005 01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:16,040 Speaker 7: I don't even know if they're on tour. 2006 01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:20,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, we got Rich Jornberger, Penn State 2007 01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:23,360 Speaker 2: All American, Jared Smith FSR, betting analyst. 2008 01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:24,479 Speaker 3: I'm Brian. 2009 01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:24,640 Speaker 5: No. 2010 01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:27,719 Speaker 2: Use Code countdown at betmgm and receive up to fifteen 2011 01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:30,320 Speaker 2: hundred dollars back in bonus bets if you don't win 2012 01:37:30,360 --> 01:37:33,200 Speaker 2: your first bet. 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That would be your Houston. 2035 01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:37,559 Speaker 3: Cougars mp man. 2036 01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:40,360 Speaker 2: They play a physical style of basketball on the road 2037 01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:44,040 Speaker 2: at Arizona today in Houston they are two and a 2038 01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:45,920 Speaker 2: half point road favorites. 2039 01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:47,160 Speaker 3: How about that right there. 2040 01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:51,160 Speaker 2: But if you love physical basketball and you love defense, 2041 01:38:51,400 --> 01:38:53,960 Speaker 2: Houston is your squad because they get after it in 2042 01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:54,960 Speaker 2: both categories. 2043 01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:57,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, the Koug's taking on the Cats. 2044 01:38:57,880 --> 01:39:02,679 Speaker 6: Wildcats havn't lost in their home arena yet this season, 2045 01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:07,040 Speaker 6: so being road favorites, it's it's it's quite the statement. 2046 01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:12,559 Speaker 6: But like you said, Houston dictates how these games go. 2047 01:39:13,439 --> 01:39:20,840 Speaker 6: Kelvin Sampson's team is an incredibly stifling defensive squad. And 2048 01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:24,559 Speaker 6: then also if you look at their offensive numbers, they're 2049 01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:27,680 Speaker 6: not gaudy, but it's because of this reason. They like 2050 01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:31,200 Speaker 6: to dribble and pass. They really like to take their time, 2051 01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:34,920 Speaker 6: they choose their shots, they find the open man, and 2052 01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:38,439 Speaker 6: they they will slow a game down. It's just like 2053 01:39:39,080 --> 01:39:42,840 Speaker 6: it's just like, I mean, think about think about any 2054 01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:45,960 Speaker 6: team in the NFL with a great run, run game, right, 2055 01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:48,479 Speaker 6: with a great ground game, what do they want to do. 2056 01:39:48,520 --> 01:39:50,400 Speaker 6: They want to get an early lead and then they 2057 01:39:50,439 --> 01:39:52,479 Speaker 6: want to take the air out of the football. They 2058 01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:54,680 Speaker 6: want to run it. They want to have you know, 2059 01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:57,200 Speaker 6: these sixteen play drives where it's. 2060 01:39:57,200 --> 01:40:00,000 Speaker 5: You know, three or four yards out of time. 2061 01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:03,120 Speaker 6: Maybe a couple of explosive plays, but they're just gonna 2062 01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:06,679 Speaker 6: grind you down. And that is exactly what this Houston 2063 01:40:06,720 --> 01:40:09,519 Speaker 6: Cougar's team does on a basketball court. And it is 2064 01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:13,719 Speaker 6: a very different way of playing basketball, especially in today's game, 2065 01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:16,360 Speaker 6: where you see a lot of high flying offenses, a 2066 01:40:16,360 --> 01:40:19,120 Speaker 6: lot of tempo, a lot of three point perimeter shooting. 2067 01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:21,479 Speaker 5: That is not what Houston does. 2068 01:40:21,680 --> 01:40:25,840 Speaker 6: They play stifling defense and they slow the game down 2069 01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:27,599 Speaker 6: on the offensive side of the court. 2070 01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:30,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, Houston being a road favorite here, I think kind 2071 01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:33,400 Speaker 4: of speaks to the prowess that the market gives them. 2072 01:40:33,640 --> 01:40:37,040 Speaker 4: Zona coming off a really bad loss to Kansas State. 2073 01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:42,840 Speaker 4: Caleb Love was just non existent. Zona's had a really 2074 01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:45,400 Speaker 4: up and down year. Non conference not so great. They 2075 01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:47,479 Speaker 4: were six and five. They got blown out by Duke 2076 01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:49,759 Speaker 4: at home. They blew a fourteen point lead to UCLA. 2077 01:40:49,880 --> 01:40:51,920 Speaker 4: Lost that Wisconsin a lot one hundred and three points 2078 01:40:51,920 --> 01:40:54,920 Speaker 4: and forty seven free throw attempts in that game. Can 2079 01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:57,000 Speaker 4: we get that kind of game today between Wisconsin and 2080 01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:59,960 Speaker 4: Produce and so we're on the over lost to Westford 2081 01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:00,799 Speaker 4: Ginian overtime. 2082 01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:02,679 Speaker 7: That was when Tucker DeVries was still healthy. 2083 01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:05,680 Speaker 4: So Zona just kind of slept, walked through the non 2084 01:41:05,680 --> 01:41:08,360 Speaker 4: conference and all of a sudden, big twelve play explosion. 2085 01:41:09,240 --> 01:41:11,840 Speaker 4: Only losses were at Texas Tech and then the game 2086 01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:14,240 Speaker 4: they just lost at Kansas State, which snapped that six 2087 01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:14,960 Speaker 4: game win streak. 2088 01:41:15,240 --> 01:41:16,519 Speaker 7: Zona's got the two alphas. 2089 01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:19,439 Speaker 4: Kleb Love is a stud, fearless, It's got almost a 2090 01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:22,000 Speaker 4: thirty percent usage rate. And I really like the point 2091 01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:24,960 Speaker 4: guard TJ. Bradley, great perimeter defender. I think both of 2092 01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:27,080 Speaker 4: those guys work really well off each other. It is 2093 01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:31,519 Speaker 4: an elite backcourt. Houston can just suffocate you defensively. Now 2094 01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:35,080 Speaker 4: here's the difference between this year's Houston and last year's Houston, 2095 01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:37,040 Speaker 4: which was a number one seed and expected to go 2096 01:41:37,120 --> 01:41:38,600 Speaker 4: to the Final four. They ended up losing in the 2097 01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:41,400 Speaker 4: sweet sixteen to Duke. That was the game Jamal Shed 2098 01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:45,679 Speaker 4: got hurt. But this year's Houston team's significantly better shooting team, 2099 01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:48,439 Speaker 4: and I think that's why they're more equipped to make 2100 01:41:48,479 --> 01:41:50,640 Speaker 4: a run to the Final four this year. We know 2101 01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:52,920 Speaker 4: they like to slow it down. We know Arizona likes 2102 01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:56,679 Speaker 4: to play fast. Arizona is a transition team. Well, Houston 2103 01:41:56,720 --> 01:41:57,839 Speaker 4: really defends the transition. 2104 01:41:57,920 --> 01:41:58,080 Speaker 8: Well. 2105 01:41:58,200 --> 01:41:59,959 Speaker 7: I think this is a bad matchup for Arizona. 2106 01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:03,840 Speaker 4: I mean, unless Caleb Love rekindles the magic and does 2107 01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:05,920 Speaker 4: the exact opposite of what he did in the last 2108 01:42:05,920 --> 01:42:07,960 Speaker 4: game at Case State, which is score six points and 2109 01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:11,800 Speaker 4: almost put up a bagel. I do think we're gonna 2110 01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:14,920 Speaker 4: see a very aggressive Houston offense here. 2111 01:42:15,080 --> 01:42:16,040 Speaker 7: Get some early shots. 2112 01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:18,479 Speaker 4: They can make those shots, and I'll be honest, I 2113 01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:21,679 Speaker 4: really like Houston in this spot. I think the fact 2114 01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:24,559 Speaker 4: that they're favored in the game makes me believe they're 2115 01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:26,600 Speaker 4: going to win the game. I know that sounds really simplistic, 2116 01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:28,759 Speaker 4: but when you're on the road in conference play High Major, 2117 01:42:29,240 --> 01:42:31,680 Speaker 4: usually that home team, like we're sawing with Kentucky and 2118 01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:34,040 Speaker 4: Texas tonight, right, Like Kentucky's the better team, but Texas 2119 01:42:34,040 --> 01:42:36,879 Speaker 4: is favored at home. Not the case with Houston in Arizona. 2120 01:42:37,240 --> 01:42:39,720 Speaker 3: I'll give you two comparisons. You tell me if you 2121 01:42:39,880 --> 01:42:41,840 Speaker 3: like it. You know what is it? The old line 2122 01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:42,479 Speaker 3: from Anchorman. 2123 01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:45,840 Speaker 2: If you don't like it, just send it back my way. 2124 01:42:47,000 --> 01:42:49,479 Speaker 3: Caleb Love reminds me of j R. 2125 01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:49,960 Speaker 5: Smith. 2126 01:42:50,240 --> 01:42:53,800 Speaker 2: Oh the NBA player, just streaky shooter. Caleb Love. When 2127 01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:58,200 Speaker 2: he's feeling it, he is, He's lights out. When he's 2128 01:42:58,240 --> 01:43:01,519 Speaker 2: not feeling it like JR. Smith, it's like, oh he's. 2129 01:43:01,400 --> 01:43:02,240 Speaker 3: Cold right now. 2130 01:43:02,439 --> 01:43:07,240 Speaker 2: These cold so which Caleb Love shows up is a 2131 01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:11,720 Speaker 2: big deal for today's game. And Houston, they remind me 2132 01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:14,360 Speaker 2: sit down for this one. They remind me of. 2133 01:43:14,320 --> 01:43:16,200 Speaker 3: The Legion of Boom right. 2134 01:43:16,280 --> 01:43:17,320 Speaker 5: They think about. 2135 01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:21,519 Speaker 2: Seattle really like they would just push the envelope as 2136 01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:24,439 Speaker 2: much as they could. Richard Sherman, he's getting his hands 2137 01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:27,720 Speaker 2: on the wide receiver. It's almost like daring the officials 2138 01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:30,240 Speaker 2: to make a call. And if they're not making calls, 2139 01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:34,839 Speaker 2: it's like, okay, game on. You guys are screwed. And Houston, 2140 01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:39,200 Speaker 2: how physical they are defensively? The whistles could make a 2141 01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:42,639 Speaker 2: big impact in this game. Because Arizona has the top 2142 01:43:42,720 --> 01:43:45,680 Speaker 2: offense in the Big Twelve, You've got Houston with the 2143 01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:46,760 Speaker 2: top defense in the. 2144 01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:48,560 Speaker 3: Big Twelve and in the country. 2145 01:43:49,120 --> 01:43:51,519 Speaker 2: And if the officials are a little lax with the 2146 01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:54,200 Speaker 2: whistles and they're allowing physical play, that. 2147 01:43:54,240 --> 01:43:57,800 Speaker 3: Is a huge deal for Houston. It's just like the 2148 01:43:57,880 --> 01:43:58,559 Speaker 3: Legion of Boom. 2149 01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:00,479 Speaker 2: The more they get away with them, the more they're 2150 01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:04,200 Speaker 2: going to just suffocate you. And so if the whistle, 2151 01:44:04,720 --> 01:44:08,000 Speaker 2: if it's on the side of Arizona, that's a big 2152 01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:10,320 Speaker 2: thing to watch in today's game, huge impact. 2153 01:44:10,640 --> 01:44:14,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, if Arizona wants to win this game, I think 2154 01:44:14,280 --> 01:44:16,559 Speaker 6: what they're gonna need to do, because I agree with 2155 01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:19,479 Speaker 6: what you said about Caleb Love, is they're gonna have 2156 01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:20,360 Speaker 6: to loosen. 2157 01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:20,679 Speaker 5: Up the paint. 2158 01:44:21,080 --> 01:44:23,599 Speaker 6: So they're gonna need to get the ball into open 2159 01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:27,679 Speaker 6: looks on the wings, hit some perimeter shots, get Houston 2160 01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:30,240 Speaker 6: out of the paint a little bit, give him a 2161 01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:34,640 Speaker 6: little room to cook. And that transition offense is going 2162 01:44:34,720 --> 01:44:37,639 Speaker 6: to be really important if they can get to the rim. 2163 01:44:37,920 --> 01:44:41,720 Speaker 6: Like you said, Houston's really good in transitions, so that's 2164 01:44:41,720 --> 01:44:44,080 Speaker 6: gonna be a tall task. But you got to generate 2165 01:44:44,160 --> 01:44:47,400 Speaker 6: turnovers and test that theory. But in your half court offense, 2166 01:44:47,439 --> 01:44:49,960 Speaker 6: you have got to hit shots from the perimeter in 2167 01:44:50,040 --> 01:44:53,599 Speaker 6: order to give Caleb Love some room. Now, Houston, I mean, 2168 01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:56,360 Speaker 6: we know how they have success. They have to play 2169 01:44:56,400 --> 01:45:00,320 Speaker 6: their stifling branded defense and they have to control the 2170 01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:01,200 Speaker 6: pace of play. 2171 01:45:01,479 --> 01:45:03,519 Speaker 5: So if you're looking for a play, I like the 2172 01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:04,200 Speaker 5: under here. 2173 01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:08,120 Speaker 6: I think that we see because Arizona we talked a 2174 01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:11,000 Speaker 6: lot about their offense, pretty good defensive team, two metrically, 2175 01:45:11,479 --> 01:45:15,400 Speaker 6: so two defensive teams, one who really likes to dribble 2176 01:45:15,680 --> 01:45:17,519 Speaker 6: the basketball in Houston. 2177 01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:20,040 Speaker 5: Give me the under on this one. Yeah. 2178 01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:22,320 Speaker 4: I think this is an easy correlated play. If you 2179 01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:25,040 Speaker 4: like Arizona, you bet the over on Caleb Love props. 2180 01:45:25,120 --> 01:45:28,800 Speaker 4: For example, Arizona money line parlayed with Caleb Glove over 2181 01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:30,880 Speaker 4: two and a half May threes is almost three to one. 2182 01:45:31,720 --> 01:45:34,240 Speaker 4: I just don't see a world where Arizona wins the 2183 01:45:34,280 --> 01:45:37,600 Speaker 4: game and Caleb Love doesn't have a good game. Like 2184 01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:40,559 Speaker 4: There's just not a lot of scenarios where that takes place. 2185 01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:44,920 Speaker 4: So you correlate those bets together. If you like Arizona, 2186 01:45:45,120 --> 01:45:47,240 Speaker 4: you probably like an over. If you like Houston, you 2187 01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:50,160 Speaker 4: probably like an under. If you like Arizona, you probably 2188 01:45:50,200 --> 01:45:52,839 Speaker 4: like Kayleb loves props to go over. If you like Houston, 2189 01:45:52,920 --> 01:45:55,519 Speaker 4: you probably like Kleb loves props to go under. Just 2190 01:45:55,560 --> 01:45:57,559 Speaker 4: the way to kind of spice up the game a 2191 01:45:57,560 --> 01:46:00,120 Speaker 4: little bit. I think I'd pick Houston in the game thing. 2192 01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:01,639 Speaker 4: If you can find a cheap money line on Houston. 2193 01:46:01,640 --> 01:46:03,479 Speaker 4: I saw minus one thirty out there. I think that's 2194 01:46:03,479 --> 01:46:05,880 Speaker 4: the way I would bet it straight up. But I 2195 01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:08,759 Speaker 4: do like the correlated parlay with Kleb Love going over 2196 01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:12,000 Speaker 4: and Arizona winning or opposite, if that's your. 2197 01:46:11,880 --> 01:46:12,599 Speaker 7: Cup of tea today. 2198 01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:14,519 Speaker 4: It just like I was looking at the two losses 2199 01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:17,040 Speaker 4: for the Big Twelve this year with Arizona zero for 2200 01:46:17,160 --> 01:46:19,439 Speaker 4: seven from three oh five from three for Kaleb Love. 2201 01:46:19,560 --> 01:46:22,599 Speaker 7: Yeah, like it just it seems like it's low hanging fruit. 2202 01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:25,439 Speaker 4: If Kaleb Love shoots it well from outside, Arizona's probably 2203 01:46:25,439 --> 01:46:27,479 Speaker 4: gonna win, and the opposite if they lose. 2204 01:46:28,240 --> 01:46:31,800 Speaker 2: One other thing is this is great Houston. Seventy is 2205 01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:35,920 Speaker 2: the magic number defensively, so when they allow opponents to 2206 01:46:35,960 --> 01:46:38,439 Speaker 2: score more than seventy points, they're one in four. 2207 01:46:38,960 --> 01:46:39,200 Speaker 5: Wow. 2208 01:46:39,439 --> 01:46:42,840 Speaker 3: If they hold opponents to under seventy points, they're nineteen 2209 01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:44,360 Speaker 3: and oh. 2210 01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:46,880 Speaker 2: So wow, like the number one offense in the Big Twelve, 2211 01:46:46,960 --> 01:46:50,519 Speaker 2: that's the Arizona Wildcats. Can they score seventy because they 2212 01:46:50,600 --> 01:46:52,840 Speaker 2: if they can get to seventy, they're live. You know, 2213 01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:56,080 Speaker 2: they're absolutely live in this game. But that's gonna be difficult. 2214 01:46:56,640 --> 01:46:58,840 Speaker 2: It reminds me a bit of a game tomorrow. I'm 2215 01:46:58,880 --> 01:47:02,799 Speaker 2: excited for this one crazyton at Saint John's. Saint John's 2216 01:47:02,840 --> 01:47:10,200 Speaker 2: plays a similar style to Houston. They're they're tough, you know, rebounding, toughness, defense, 2217 01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:12,719 Speaker 2: and so it's a bit of a clash of styles 2218 01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:15,839 Speaker 2: with Creighton. Who man, they can score from the perimeter, 2219 01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:18,519 Speaker 2: they can fill it up. But I'm excited for that 2220 01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:21,840 Speaker 2: game tomorrow too. And I love these physical teams. It's 2221 01:47:21,880 --> 01:47:24,160 Speaker 2: not just today and tomorrow to watch, but as we 2222 01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:28,719 Speaker 2: get closer to March Madness, these physical, defensive oriented teams. 2223 01:47:29,160 --> 01:47:31,160 Speaker 2: How much do they get away with in terms of 2224 01:47:31,160 --> 01:47:34,559 Speaker 2: physical play because not every officiating crew is the same. 2225 01:47:34,680 --> 01:47:37,240 Speaker 2: But it's something to watch today with Houston, it's something 2226 01:47:37,240 --> 01:47:38,839 Speaker 2: to watch tomorrow with Saint John's. 2227 01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:42,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, with Saint John's, well, I should say, really with 2228 01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:45,840 Speaker 6: with Creighton, what you need to do is use Saint 2229 01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:51,240 Speaker 6: John's aggressiveness against them. So, as you mentioned, Creighton better 2230 01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:54,840 Speaker 6: perimeter shooting team, but also you gotta find ways to 2231 01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:58,360 Speaker 6: drive the lane to get Saint John's some of their 2232 01:47:58,439 --> 01:48:02,320 Speaker 6: their rim defenders into trouble. If you start making a 2233 01:48:02,320 --> 01:48:06,479 Speaker 6: little bit easier to score from inside, well you've got 2234 01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:09,360 Speaker 6: a second half where you have a softer lane. So 2235 01:48:10,280 --> 01:48:13,360 Speaker 6: to me, this is one of those games where you 2236 01:48:13,439 --> 01:48:17,120 Speaker 6: know you gotta take some chances getting into the paint 2237 01:48:17,160 --> 01:48:19,280 Speaker 6: early in this game, try to draw some. 2238 01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:20,879 Speaker 5: Fouls, hit your shots. 2239 01:48:20,960 --> 01:48:23,920 Speaker 6: Obviously, if you have an open three, look take them 2240 01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:27,440 Speaker 6: up on that offer, you know, because they're good from outside. 2241 01:48:27,479 --> 01:48:29,840 Speaker 5: But but you want to try to find a. 2242 01:48:29,800 --> 01:48:34,559 Speaker 6: Way to use a strength of your opponent as a 2243 01:48:34,600 --> 01:48:35,880 Speaker 6: potential liability. 2244 01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:38,479 Speaker 5: And I think Creyton could could exploit that. 2245 01:48:39,320 --> 01:48:41,679 Speaker 7: What a great year for Rick Patino man. 2246 01:48:42,160 --> 01:48:45,040 Speaker 4: I mean, we're gonna be talking about Satan the Johnny's 2247 01:48:45,880 --> 01:48:50,439 Speaker 4: in March. They are a force defensively. I love Kadaria Richmond. 2248 01:48:50,439 --> 01:48:52,240 Speaker 4: We've seen him in the tournament before with Seaton Hall. 2249 01:48:52,320 --> 01:48:54,000 Speaker 4: You had that great run a couple of years ago. 2250 01:48:55,400 --> 01:48:58,000 Speaker 4: They just do everything well. They're just again a well 2251 01:48:58,040 --> 01:49:00,559 Speaker 4: coached team in a tough conference that play is really 2252 01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:04,240 Speaker 4: solid basketball. They played Creighton tough in Omaha about two 2253 01:49:04,280 --> 01:49:07,479 Speaker 4: months ago. This was actually New Year's Eve in Omaha, 2254 01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:09,640 Speaker 4: and they lost by a point, so it was a 2255 01:49:09,680 --> 01:49:11,960 Speaker 4: tight game. It was a low scoring game, both teams 2256 01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:14,360 Speaker 4: coming off losses. I do like this Creighton team a lot. 2257 01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:16,840 Speaker 4: I actually watched this Creighton team in person back in November. 2258 01:49:16,880 --> 01:49:18,680 Speaker 4: They were in Vegas. They played a really tight game 2259 01:49:18,680 --> 01:49:22,080 Speaker 4: against Texas A and M. Really good game actually, and 2260 01:49:22,479 --> 01:49:26,000 Speaker 4: you just see the physicality of Creighton with Kalkbrenner in 2261 01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:28,240 Speaker 4: the middle, I mean he is just a force and 2262 01:49:28,360 --> 01:49:31,240 Speaker 4: Ashworth on the outside. Stud Pop Isaacs was a tough 2263 01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:34,680 Speaker 4: loss for them. The Texas Tech transfer got hurt midseason, 2264 01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:37,400 Speaker 4: but they've played well since again. That lost to Yukon 2265 01:49:37,520 --> 01:49:41,320 Speaker 4: on Tuesday. That's the first loss they've had since January third. 2266 01:49:41,640 --> 01:49:44,439 Speaker 4: I mean they've played again. Their losses this year. They 2267 01:49:44,479 --> 01:49:47,800 Speaker 4: lost to Yukon, they lost a Marquette, tough game at Georgetown, 2268 01:49:47,800 --> 01:49:50,200 Speaker 4: got blown out. Georgetown's been better this year. Lost, Obama 2269 01:49:50,479 --> 01:49:52,639 Speaker 4: lost to A and M lost to San Diego State. 2270 01:49:52,680 --> 01:49:55,519 Speaker 4: I mean these are all top fifty tournament type teams. 2271 01:49:55,520 --> 01:49:58,559 Speaker 4: So you just haven't seen a whole lot of dip 2272 01:49:58,640 --> 01:50:01,160 Speaker 4: with Creighton's level, despite the at that pop Isaacs was, 2273 01:50:01,240 --> 01:50:03,559 Speaker 4: you know, the starting point guard. Great, great player. So 2274 01:50:04,200 --> 01:50:06,040 Speaker 4: I do think this is gonna be a battle. Feels 2275 01:50:06,120 --> 01:50:07,760 Speaker 4: like a low scoring game. Looks like the total is 2276 01:50:07,760 --> 01:50:10,040 Speaker 4: gonna be around one forty. Saint John's will be about 2277 01:50:10,080 --> 01:50:11,920 Speaker 4: a four to five point favorite. That's kind of where 2278 01:50:11,960 --> 01:50:15,400 Speaker 4: Ken Palm has the game. I haven't really dived into 2279 01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:17,800 Speaker 4: the numbers yet on it, but I would lean Saint 2280 01:50:17,920 --> 01:50:20,919 Speaker 4: John's because I just think they're just a better defensive 2281 01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:22,400 Speaker 4: team and I think at home Maype got a. 2282 01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:24,360 Speaker 7: Little bit of an edge. You get the revenge angle 2283 01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:24,760 Speaker 7: as well. 2284 01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:28,639 Speaker 2: Man, That's the thing you mentioned Kalkbrenner down low, how 2285 01:50:28,680 --> 01:50:33,320 Speaker 2: many how many shots he impacts or like nullafies not 2286 01:50:33,439 --> 01:50:36,479 Speaker 2: just blocking them, but dudes will be driving toward the 2287 01:50:36,479 --> 01:50:39,560 Speaker 2: basket and they're like, yeah, let's go with Plan B. 2288 01:50:40,280 --> 01:50:44,040 Speaker 2: Not shooting right now, not a good option. But I 2289 01:50:44,040 --> 01:50:48,439 Speaker 2: mean he he really helps that defense overall, because Steven 2290 01:50:48,479 --> 01:50:51,120 Speaker 2: Ashworth is not a defender, you know what I mean. 2291 01:50:51,160 --> 01:50:54,240 Speaker 2: He's an undersized guard who can shoot it like crazy, 2292 01:50:54,280 --> 01:50:56,240 Speaker 2: but he's not a defensive player. 2293 01:50:56,280 --> 01:51:00,360 Speaker 3: But Kalkbrenner. Man, he helps Creighton's defense so much. 2294 01:51:00,640 --> 01:51:02,519 Speaker 2: I would love to see a stat We're all about 2295 01:51:02,520 --> 01:51:06,479 Speaker 2: stats and stats and stats, but the amount of just 2296 01:51:06,720 --> 01:51:09,839 Speaker 2: changed shots right where you a guy. 2297 01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:11,639 Speaker 3: Will literally go up to shoot it. 2298 01:51:11,640 --> 01:51:14,400 Speaker 2: It's not a block, but he has to alter his 2299 01:51:14,479 --> 01:51:18,439 Speaker 2: shots so significantly to just get it on the rim. 2300 01:51:18,680 --> 01:51:20,400 Speaker 2: You know, there should be a stat for that, right 2301 01:51:20,400 --> 01:51:23,599 Speaker 2: if there should be Like these guys like yeah Wemby 2302 01:51:23,760 --> 01:51:27,400 Speaker 2: or Anthony Davis in the league, or you know, like Kawkbrenner, 2303 01:51:27,960 --> 01:51:33,040 Speaker 2: they affect shots, they change shots, they affect misses, and 2304 01:51:33,080 --> 01:51:35,320 Speaker 2: they don't get any credit for that stats wise. I 2305 01:51:35,320 --> 01:51:38,400 Speaker 2: would love to see that changed. But man, he does 2306 01:51:38,479 --> 01:51:40,760 Speaker 2: if it doesn't show up in the stat sheet, he 2307 01:51:40,760 --> 01:51:44,440 Speaker 2: he changes a lot of shots and helps Creyton's defense massively. 2308 01:51:44,800 --> 01:51:46,680 Speaker 5: I love that you brought that up. 2309 01:51:46,840 --> 01:51:49,840 Speaker 6: I really do, because when I watched Creighton earlier in 2310 01:51:49,880 --> 01:51:52,160 Speaker 6: the season against San Diego State, I was thinking the 2311 01:51:52,200 --> 01:51:56,640 Speaker 6: same exact thing. Where they're dangerous is say you have 2312 01:51:56,680 --> 01:52:00,320 Speaker 6: a shooter who's really good, you know, twelve foot twelve 2313 01:52:00,360 --> 01:52:02,559 Speaker 6: feet are in you know, or even fifteen feet are in. 2314 01:52:03,240 --> 01:52:08,280 Speaker 6: If you have a a a defender who can who 2315 01:52:08,320 --> 01:52:12,360 Speaker 6: can affect shots inside the paint from from a rim 2316 01:52:12,439 --> 01:52:16,240 Speaker 6: protectors standpoint, where guys are taking shots from mid range. 2317 01:52:16,280 --> 01:52:19,160 Speaker 6: Meanwhile they're better under the hoop. Well that helps you 2318 01:52:19,439 --> 01:52:22,519 Speaker 6: if you have a perimeter defender who is in the 2319 01:52:22,640 --> 01:52:26,439 Speaker 6: face of perimeter shooters. Somebody goes up for three to 2320 01:52:26,520 --> 01:52:29,519 Speaker 6: have a hand in their eyes, like, it's it's difficult 2321 01:52:29,560 --> 01:52:33,680 Speaker 6: to sink those shots. So it's it's like, how what 2322 01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:35,760 Speaker 6: would be a metric that you could compare to, like 2323 01:52:35,920 --> 01:52:36,759 Speaker 6: QB hurries. 2324 01:52:37,200 --> 01:52:40,800 Speaker 3: Okay, so yeah, you know, like sure you know if 2325 01:52:40,840 --> 01:52:41,360 Speaker 3: you look. 2326 01:52:41,200 --> 01:52:43,559 Speaker 5: At at blocks as sacks. 2327 01:52:44,479 --> 01:52:47,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, obviously you're completing the act. 2328 01:52:47,240 --> 01:52:48,040 Speaker 5: I mean it changed. 2329 01:52:48,280 --> 01:52:51,080 Speaker 6: It's it's a it's an attempted shot it gets knocked down, 2330 01:52:51,439 --> 01:52:53,559 Speaker 6: or it's a quarterback getting tackled to the ground and 2331 01:52:53,600 --> 01:52:56,000 Speaker 6: it's a loss of yardage. But how many times is 2332 01:52:56,040 --> 01:53:00,240 Speaker 6: that quarterback harassed during the course of the game and 2333 01:53:00,280 --> 01:53:02,320 Speaker 6: what effect does that have on the passing game in 2334 01:53:02,400 --> 01:53:05,559 Speaker 6: terms of timing with his receivers, rhythm of the throw, 2335 01:53:06,280 --> 01:53:09,840 Speaker 6: ability to throw from a stable platform. Well, same thing 2336 01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:12,400 Speaker 6: in basketball. If a guy is trying to shoot from 2337 01:53:12,439 --> 01:53:14,880 Speaker 6: eight foot and he has to pull up at twelve, 2338 01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:18,640 Speaker 6: well maybe he hits iron instead of net. So I 2339 01:53:18,680 --> 01:53:22,760 Speaker 6: think that's a really great metric that somebody should look into. 2340 01:53:22,880 --> 01:53:24,559 Speaker 6: I mean, it would take a long time to break 2341 01:53:24,600 --> 01:53:26,639 Speaker 6: that down and somebody will look into it. 2342 01:53:26,840 --> 01:53:27,000 Speaker 5: Well. 2343 01:53:27,040 --> 01:53:29,360 Speaker 4: It's funny because you know Pro Football Focus does the 2344 01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:32,840 Speaker 4: pressures thing, and then other sites have started to do 2345 01:53:32,920 --> 01:53:36,599 Speaker 4: the pressures metric and there's always a difference, like there's 2346 01:53:36,600 --> 01:53:39,200 Speaker 4: always a little bit of a discrepancy because sometimes it's 2347 01:53:39,240 --> 01:53:41,559 Speaker 4: close and you know it's a it's a it's kind 2348 01:53:41,560 --> 01:53:44,320 Speaker 4: of a call. But the Big East, I think this 2349 01:53:44,479 --> 01:53:47,640 Speaker 4: is a showcase game for a conference that really is underrated. 2350 01:53:48,680 --> 01:53:50,680 Speaker 4: They are the fourth best conference in America this year 2351 01:53:50,720 --> 01:53:53,000 Speaker 4: it's SEC, Big Ten, Big twelve and then Biggie the A. 2352 01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:55,600 Speaker 4: SEC is having a down year. So these are the 2353 01:53:55,640 --> 01:53:58,400 Speaker 4: two other than Yukon obviously two time Defenny champs, but 2354 01:53:58,400 --> 01:54:00,439 Speaker 4: they're having a bit of a down year too with with. 2355 01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:01,479 Speaker 7: The with what they lost. 2356 01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:04,640 Speaker 4: These are I think the two best teams in what 2357 01:54:04,840 --> 01:54:07,280 Speaker 4: is a very underrated conference and a conference that really 2358 01:54:07,320 --> 01:54:08,639 Speaker 4: could create some noise in March. 2359 01:54:09,080 --> 01:54:12,479 Speaker 2: Nice all right, that's Jared Smith FSR betting analyst Rich 2360 01:54:12,520 --> 01:54:14,679 Speaker 2: Hornberger with us Penn State All American. 2361 01:54:15,160 --> 01:54:17,840 Speaker 3: I'm Brian know. 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All right, coming up next, 2369 01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:36,680 Speaker 2: it's a new era of rapid fire. 2370 01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:39,920 Speaker 7: Gosh, wipe the slate clean. 2371 01:54:41,440 --> 01:54:42,080 Speaker 5: Let's go. 2372 01:54:43,760 --> 01:54:45,960 Speaker 7: Well, one of you guys ever get me to eat mayo? 2373 01:54:46,160 --> 01:54:47,440 Speaker 7: That is the quest. We've been doing this. 2374 01:54:50,920 --> 01:54:52,560 Speaker 5: I don't want I don't want to hear it. 2375 01:54:52,760 --> 01:54:55,160 Speaker 6: I want to hear I'm already in a bad suite 2376 01:54:55,400 --> 01:54:57,920 Speaker 6: and I'm so mad that I didn't pay off the 2377 01:54:58,000 --> 01:55:00,560 Speaker 6: Mayo bet last year because I'm at the top of 2378 01:55:00,600 --> 01:55:02,840 Speaker 6: the board. I mean, I should be in the house. 2379 01:55:03,120 --> 01:55:05,640 Speaker 6: I should be getting fitted for my jacket. Instead, I'm 2380 01:55:05,680 --> 01:55:06,680 Speaker 6: slumming it with Brian. 2381 01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:08,520 Speaker 5: No, that's right, that's right. 2382 01:55:08,600 --> 01:55:10,520 Speaker 3: That's what happens when you don't pay your debts. 2383 01:55:10,680 --> 01:55:14,600 Speaker 4: We should make you two Maos interest mayonnaise interest. 2384 01:55:15,400 --> 01:55:18,520 Speaker 2: Yes, all right, we'll go over stakes here for the 2385 01:55:19,440 --> 01:55:22,640 Speaker 2: new era of rapid fire. Here and we'll get you 2386 01:55:22,680 --> 01:55:25,839 Speaker 2: some picks as well. It's Fox Sports Radios Countdown presented 2387 01:55:25,880 --> 01:55:30,320 Speaker 2: by BETMGM. 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Gotta have that, all right. 2400 01:56:03,920 --> 01:56:07,879 Speaker 2: Props to the crew, our trusted producer, Bo Benson, Technical 2401 01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:12,680 Speaker 2: producer Extraordinary, Chris Purfet catch Bow on the Dodger Zone podcast, 2402 01:56:12,840 --> 01:56:15,280 Speaker 2: Chris is on the Pride of Detroit podcast. 2403 01:56:15,920 --> 01:56:16,880 Speaker 3: Shout out to our guys. 2404 01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:19,680 Speaker 2: Sager on Digital posting our clips does a great job. 2405 01:56:20,120 --> 01:56:24,320 Speaker 2: Top of the hour up on game. The crew has 2406 01:56:24,360 --> 01:56:27,240 Speaker 2: got you covered in less than ten minutes from now. 2407 01:56:27,920 --> 01:56:28,960 Speaker 2: Have we got some picks to make? 2408 01:56:29,040 --> 01:56:29,680 Speaker 7: Let's do it. 2409 01:56:32,760 --> 01:56:35,680 Speaker 5: Rapid fire, okay. 2410 01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:40,560 Speaker 2: Super fast before the picks Steaks for the football offseason 2411 01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:43,720 Speaker 2: edition of Rapid Fire. Huh yeah, what are we doing? 2412 01:56:43,920 --> 01:56:47,320 Speaker 2: Mayo and the coffee again? Anything else? I'm writing everything down. 2413 01:56:47,360 --> 01:56:48,400 Speaker 2: What do you want the stakes to be? 2414 01:56:48,520 --> 01:56:48,720 Speaker 5: Here? 2415 01:56:48,760 --> 01:56:51,040 Speaker 4: We can we can decide on the stakes. I think 2416 01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:54,200 Speaker 4: it's more the term will be at the end of 2417 01:56:54,320 --> 01:56:56,920 Speaker 4: week zero. Week zero of college football will be the 2418 01:56:57,000 --> 01:56:59,640 Speaker 4: last week of this one. Okay one of college football, 2419 01:56:59,840 --> 01:57:01,040 Speaker 4: just like last year. 2420 01:57:01,440 --> 01:57:02,840 Speaker 3: Okay, that's exactly what. 2421 01:57:02,760 --> 01:57:04,600 Speaker 7: We did last years. Is that all in agreement? We 2422 01:57:04,640 --> 01:57:06,400 Speaker 7: can we can figure out this the terms later. 2423 01:57:06,600 --> 01:57:10,680 Speaker 2: We need to figure out the terms, right freaking out? 2424 01:57:10,280 --> 01:57:12,040 Speaker 7: I think of anything better than Mayo. 2425 01:57:12,400 --> 01:57:14,200 Speaker 3: Mayo and the coffee. It's a staple. 2426 01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:18,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, I would be down that mayonnaise. 2427 01:57:18,520 --> 01:57:18,640 Speaker 5: Man. 2428 01:57:18,680 --> 01:57:21,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you if you're finally last and it's there's 2429 01:57:21,320 --> 01:57:23,880 Speaker 2: no Mayo in the coffee. 2430 01:57:23,960 --> 01:57:25,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, you guys have been You guys are trying to 2431 01:57:25,560 --> 01:57:27,600 Speaker 4: get me to drink Mayo my coffee for three years now. 2432 01:57:27,600 --> 01:57:29,760 Speaker 4: All right, here we go. I'm taking Boise State. This 2433 01:57:29,800 --> 01:57:31,960 Speaker 4: is an Orenburger special. I'm taking Boise State plus two 2434 01:57:31,960 --> 01:57:33,680 Speaker 4: and a half at San Diego State. Love the Road, 2435 01:57:33,680 --> 01:57:36,760 Speaker 4: Revenge spot Boys. He lost at home earlier this year. 2436 01:57:36,800 --> 01:57:38,960 Speaker 4: San Diego State shot really well in that game. They're 2437 01:57:39,000 --> 01:57:40,040 Speaker 4: not a great shooting team. 2438 01:57:40,280 --> 01:57:40,520 Speaker 5: Boys. 2439 01:57:40,520 --> 01:57:42,080 Speaker 4: He's been good on the road, one at u n LV, 2440 01:57:42,160 --> 01:57:44,120 Speaker 4: one at Wyoming, one at San Jose State, even the 2441 01:57:44,200 --> 01:57:44,680 Speaker 4: match teams. 2442 01:57:44,680 --> 01:57:45,560 Speaker 7: I'll take the points. 2443 01:57:45,760 --> 01:57:48,240 Speaker 4: I love the over in this Purdue Wisconsin game, but 2444 01:57:48,280 --> 01:57:50,760 Speaker 4: I like the Braiden Smith asist prompt more so I'll 2445 01:57:50,760 --> 01:57:51,920 Speaker 4: give you Braiden Smith. 2446 01:57:51,720 --> 01:57:53,800 Speaker 7: Over seven and a half assis. It's still even odds 2447 01:57:53,800 --> 01:57:54,720 Speaker 7: over at that MGM. 2448 01:57:54,960 --> 01:57:56,720 Speaker 4: It was plus once ti earlier when we gave it out, 2449 01:57:56,880 --> 01:57:58,560 Speaker 4: so we've seen a little bit of buye on that 2450 01:57:58,720 --> 01:58:00,440 Speaker 4: ten games this year with double d assist. 2451 01:58:00,480 --> 01:58:02,480 Speaker 7: I think the triple double is in play for brat 2452 01:58:02,560 --> 01:58:03,160 Speaker 7: Smith today. 2453 01:58:03,440 --> 01:58:07,040 Speaker 4: Shooters shoot at home better, and I think the assists 2454 01:58:07,040 --> 01:58:08,720 Speaker 4: you gotta have the shots go in. So I think 2455 01:58:08,760 --> 01:58:11,000 Speaker 4: the assist prop being at Mackie makes a whole lot 2456 01:58:11,000 --> 01:58:11,600 Speaker 4: of sense there. 2457 01:58:11,720 --> 01:58:12,920 Speaker 7: And I think Mama wins tonight. 2458 01:58:12,960 --> 01:58:14,720 Speaker 4: I'll take them on the money line minus won twenty 2459 01:58:14,760 --> 01:58:15,960 Speaker 4: cheap money line price there. 2460 01:58:16,000 --> 01:58:16,440 Speaker 5: For Bama. 2461 01:58:16,560 --> 01:58:18,320 Speaker 4: It's a little bit of buy on Auburn today, but 2462 01:58:18,360 --> 01:58:20,160 Speaker 4: I think the home cooking and tuscle loose against the 2463 01:58:20,160 --> 01:58:20,880 Speaker 4: Crimson Tide home. 2464 01:58:21,280 --> 01:58:24,839 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I'll start there, Jared, because that total 2465 01:58:24,920 --> 01:58:26,360 Speaker 6: is up over one hundred and seventy. 2466 01:58:26,400 --> 01:58:28,320 Speaker 5: I think it's one seventy two and a half. 2467 01:58:28,720 --> 01:58:33,520 Speaker 6: I would take the over probably up to one seventy five. 2468 01:58:34,120 --> 01:58:36,560 Speaker 6: I think this is gonna be an absolute track, mate. 2469 01:58:36,720 --> 01:58:41,080 Speaker 6: It's a race to one hundred for both of these squads. Now, 2470 01:58:41,080 --> 01:58:42,760 Speaker 6: I'm gonna take an under on a different game we 2471 01:58:42,880 --> 01:58:44,160 Speaker 6: talked about a little bit earlier. 2472 01:58:44,160 --> 01:58:48,320 Speaker 5: On the Houston Cougars. I think they control the clock. 2473 01:58:48,880 --> 01:58:52,240 Speaker 6: I think that they're gonna look to really slow this 2474 01:58:52,360 --> 01:58:55,400 Speaker 6: game down against the Wildcats on the road. They're favored. 2475 01:58:56,160 --> 01:58:58,480 Speaker 6: I like them on the money line. I also like 2476 01:58:58,560 --> 01:59:02,160 Speaker 6: the under, so Ston Kruger's money line, give me the 2477 01:59:02,280 --> 01:59:03,840 Speaker 6: under one thirty eight. 2478 01:59:03,880 --> 01:59:05,760 Speaker 5: I believe the total is at right now. 2479 01:59:06,080 --> 01:59:08,240 Speaker 6: I would probably take the under all the way down 2480 01:59:08,240 --> 01:59:09,560 Speaker 6: to one thirty five. 2481 01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:12,840 Speaker 5: I think this is gonna be a time of possession 2482 01:59:12,880 --> 01:59:13,879 Speaker 5: basketball game. 2483 01:59:14,040 --> 01:59:14,320 Speaker 7: All right. 2484 01:59:14,320 --> 01:59:15,760 Speaker 3: I'm on a couple of dogs here. 2485 01:59:16,240 --> 01:59:19,520 Speaker 2: Gimme coach Cal and the Razorbacks plus eight and a 2486 01:59:19,520 --> 01:59:23,080 Speaker 2: half bat a and m. Yeah, big number, and they've 2487 01:59:23,160 --> 01:59:25,000 Speaker 2: they've been a covering machine as of late. 2488 01:59:25,640 --> 01:59:28,960 Speaker 3: This is a common theme with Cal's teams. 2489 01:59:28,680 --> 01:59:31,640 Speaker 2: Right, they start to gel and start to hit their stride. 2490 01:59:31,640 --> 01:59:32,600 Speaker 2: So I'll take them plus eight. 2491 01:59:32,560 --> 01:59:33,040 Speaker 7: And a half. 2492 01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:36,480 Speaker 2: This line, I just I'm gonna go on the with 2493 01:59:36,520 --> 01:59:38,240 Speaker 2: the Knowles here. Give me them plus four and a 2494 01:59:38,280 --> 01:59:42,240 Speaker 2: half versus Clemson. It just seems like a low number. 2495 01:59:42,280 --> 01:59:45,120 Speaker 2: Clemson has played well as of late. Big upset against Duke. 2496 01:59:45,400 --> 01:59:49,920 Speaker 2: I like the Knowles in this spot here and then listen, 2497 01:59:50,800 --> 01:59:53,120 Speaker 2: far be it from me to go against the guy 2498 01:59:53,160 --> 01:59:54,480 Speaker 2: who had this epic comeback. 2499 01:59:54,480 --> 01:59:56,440 Speaker 3: Give me Bama on the money line as well. 2500 01:59:57,120 --> 02:00:00,320 Speaker 2: You know, I like the Crimson tide at home holder 2501 02:00:00,400 --> 02:00:01,520 Speaker 2: like a track meet as well. 2502 02:00:01,880 --> 02:00:04,120 Speaker 3: Enjoy the hoops, everybody h