1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Right. In one hour, we'll catch up with a scheduled 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: news conference out of Orange County concerning that big fire 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: in Laguna Miguel called the Coastal Fire, which destroyed at 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: least twenty homes. There will be an update from fire 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: officials there. Listen for that on CAFI in about an hour. 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: They didn't always start on time, but we'll pick it 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: up whenever it does start. Right now, we're going to 8 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: talk again to a frequent guest on our show over 9 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: the years. He works hard for his clients. Brian Claypool, 10 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: the attorney Los Angeles County, has agreed to pay thirty 11 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: two million dollars in a lawsuit settlement with family members 12 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: of a ten year old boy by the name of 13 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: Anthony Avelos who died after being murdered and tortured and 14 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: eventually died at the hands of his mother and her 15 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: live in boyfriend. This was a June of twenty eighteen, 16 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: and of course the La County Department of Child and 17 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: Family Services was involved in trying to do something to 18 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 1: save the boy and clearly that did not happen. And 19 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: there's also a nonprofit at a Pasadena what was involved 20 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: called Half the Way Sycamore, but that case is not 21 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: a part of this settlement. So let's bring on Brian 22 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: and talk about all this. Brian, how are you welcome? Yeah? Good, good, 23 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me back. I appreciate it. So people 24 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: should know. On the criminal side of this, Heather Baron 25 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: and her boyfriend Kareem Leiva. They've been hit with murder 26 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: charges and other other charges, but Gascone announced it would 27 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: no longer his office would no longer seek the death 28 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: penalty against the two of them, so their sentence could 29 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: be life in prison at most. But civilly, now it's 30 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: a it's a done deal to talk about. Talk about 31 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: the negotiations here with with with the you do this 32 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: with the city attorney. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just to make 33 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: it clear for your listeners, it's a tentative settlement, which 34 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: means it has to be approved by the Border Supervisors. 35 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: There's a couple of channels. First, it goes through what's 36 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: called county council, so there are lawyers who employ who 37 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: are employed by the county, not not outside lawyers, but 38 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: inside county council. They approved it, they've got to put 39 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: it through another channel. Then it gets all the way 40 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: back up to the Border Supervisors. But we were given 41 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: we were we were given a representation at a fifth mediation. 42 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: This case went back three and a half years ago. 43 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: We've been fighting for over three and a half years. 44 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: It took five mediations and a week before trial, no 45 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: less than a week before trial May fourth, which would 46 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: have been Ampony Avalos's fourteenth birthday, we had we had 47 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: we reached a tentative settlement with the county for thirty 48 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: two million dollars. Sounds like a lot of money to 49 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: your listeners, But I gotta tell you. I got to 50 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: tell you guys, if we go to trial on this 51 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: case and we put forth evidence we had, we had 52 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 1: an expert witness who would have testified that social workers 53 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: within La County DCFS. DCFS violated what's called mandatory rules 54 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: they're supposed to follow over ninety times over the span 55 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: of three years. Yeah yeah, it give an idea what 56 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: kind of rules they violated, the ones that they violated 57 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: most often. Yeah sure, yeah, yeah, great question. Just so 58 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: your listeners know, it's a complex area of law. You 59 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: can't just sue the county DCFS and social workers for negligence. 60 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: It can't be if they were negligent. You have to 61 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: you have to pursue a claim called breach of mandatory duty. 62 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: And the mandatory duties are spelled out either in the 63 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: DCFS guidelines or what's called the California Welfare and Institutions Code. 64 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: So we had to dig through all their guidelines and 65 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: all the Wealth Institutions Code, the California law, and then 66 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: pinpoint each time they violated. The most frequent violations aren't 67 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: how they investigate these calls. Remember there were thirteen different 68 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: calls and thirteen different visits. And what they frequently did 69 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: wrong is they go to the home and they talk 70 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: to the mom. You've mentioned Heather Baron right, and they 71 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: wouldn't separate Anthony. They would not separate Anthony from Heather 72 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: and the other kids. And we represented three other kids 73 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: in the home and talk to them separately. They were 74 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: not doing what's called child risk assessments. Instead, what they 75 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: were doing was they were just talking to mom and 76 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: deferring to the mom. And that's a violation of the 77 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: of the mandatory rules. Now, these employees, do you go 78 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: to college to get a degree for this kind of work, 79 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: this kind of social I'm sure, yeah, I'm sure, yeah, yeah, 80 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: so they're they're trained to college. Obviously they have training programs. 81 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: How could they miss it? Seems it seemed like this 82 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: was almost they were actively trying to kill the kid. 83 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: When you commit ninety violations with all your education and 84 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: training and just common sense, just basic humanity, how did 85 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: you How did this happen? I don't understand that. Yeah, yeah, 86 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: great question, because you you can't teach compassion, right, I mean, 87 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's like an athlete. If athletes, you know, 88 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: super talented in a certain area, you can't only teach 89 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: certain like the intangibles. And I think unfortunately in La County, 90 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: I've been on so many times with you, I think 91 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: you have so I think you've got social workers that 92 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: are heartless. I mean, in this case, I'll give you 93 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: guys an example. It was so bad for the county 94 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: that we had reports where social workers would would actually 95 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: observe the abuse. Right, So this wasn't like a he said, 96 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: she said, Oh there was a report. Let's see if 97 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: she's telling the mom's telling the truth or not? Right? 98 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: The social workers would actually see how to grab a 99 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: kid by the hair and and toss him across the room. Right, 100 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: That clearly, clearly if you have a brain in your head, 101 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: and and and and and a soul in your heart, 102 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: you would you would remove that child. Right. This is 103 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 1: just turning a blind eye to flagrant abuse. They witnessed 104 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: on occasion abuse of these kids and still did nothing. 105 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: And that's the crux of the lawsuit. Our lawsuit was, 106 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: howd you followed the proper protocol in these rules? You 107 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: would have removed Anthony and three other kids. We repped 108 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: three other kids in the case. You would have removed 109 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: all four of these kids in two fifteen, Anthony would 110 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: be alive and the three other kids would not have 111 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: been abused and tortured. Because I bet you most people 112 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: they hear about social workers and they think, well, these 113 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: must be good, gentle souls going in the worst situations, 114 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: and you know, they have all the best of intentions. 115 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: But the picture that's painted with this particular case is 116 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: that these people are, like you said, cold and heartless 117 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: and they have a soul of stone and yeah, yeah, yeah, 118 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: and what they do, I'm sorry to interrupt you, what 119 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: they do. Let me just explain to your listeners. There's 120 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: this policy that's been in place forever in DCFS, and 121 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: we're trying to break the mold. And that's why, you know, 122 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: people will say, oh, it's a lot of money, why 123 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: are we paying all that money? Sometimes money brings change, right, 124 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: We've got to bring change through litigation, search for the truth, 125 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: and take a chunk out of the county's pocketbook to 126 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: make change. But here's the problem. They have what's called 127 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: this reunification with the family policy. It's garbage, It's flat 128 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: out garbage. Why because children can't pick their parents, children 129 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: cannot pick the home they live in. And unfortunately DCFS 130 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: parenting is a privilege, it's not a right. And what 131 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: they do is, this is what happened with Anthony, and 132 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: it happened with Noah Quadro right, same thing. What they 133 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: do is they see this abuse, they get all these 134 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: reports of abuse, and they do everything in their power 135 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: to what's called reunify the child with the parent. Right. 136 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: They think that's going to fix everything. When I got 137 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: so many emails after this case was settled tentatively and 138 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: families were like, oh my god, I'd love to be 139 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: a foster parent. I'd love to take in these kids. 140 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: There are families out there who will take in these 141 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: abused and tortured kids. We've got to stop this pattern 142 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: of reunification. If you're a bad parent, taking a thirty 143 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: date course is not going to make you a good parent. 144 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: But after you have several kids die in recent years, 145 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: why would they cling to this insanity? It just clearly 146 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: doesn't work. Yeah, dude, I'm telling you. I'm telling you, 147 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: and just so your listeners. No dates back to Gabriel Fernandez. 148 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: In May of twenty thirteen, then we had one hundred 149 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: page Remember remember I was on a couple years ago. 150 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 1: We had one hundred page independent commissioned report coming out 151 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: of all the failures at La County DC of asking 152 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: and guess what. In June of twenty eighteen, Anthony Ablos 153 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: dies very similar to Gabriel. So what's changing. Not much 154 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 1: is changing. That's why these cases are so so important. 155 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: And I'm telling you just so everybody knows. There were 156 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 1: three other kids in that home as well, and they 157 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: were tortured. They were forced to do it's called a 158 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: captain's chair. They're back to the wall. They would squat down, 159 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: put their arms straight out, and they put weights on 160 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: their arms, books and heavy weights. They make them squat 161 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: for thirty minutes like that. They made him kneel on rice. 162 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: I looked at Anthony's autopsy photos. His knees and feet 163 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: were red and purple and bruised, And just so everybody 164 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: knows how bad this was. Anthony laid on that floor 165 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: for almost a day. We found out through the medical 166 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: examiner evidence, he laid on the flour guys for almost 167 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: a day. And can you believe that Heather and Kareem 168 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: told the other kids that he's mapping. So the trauma, 169 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: that's why we were able to get such a big 170 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: settlement because if we go to a jury trial, we're 171 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: going to tell a jury. Can you imagine if you 172 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: were a child and you're walking over a dead brother 173 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: and you think your brothers still alive. I mean, it's 174 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: it's earth shattering. I'm telling you all right, Brian, you 175 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: always appreciate talking to you, and you'll always hear your 176 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: passion for your clients. Thanks for coming up again, Yes, 177 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: thank you for having me and following as it's so important. Yeah, 178 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: it's Brian Claypool about the tentative thirty two million dollars 179 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: settlement that the County of Los Angeles. Yes, John and 180 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: I and Deborah Mark roll County taxpayers have agreed because 181 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: Giles service has failed another boy. This was Anthony Aveolos, 182 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: who died in the hands of his mother and her 183 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: living boyfriend in twenty eighteen. And their trial is still 184 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: to come. Hopefully they'll get Oh no, is it a 185 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: guest gone case. Yeah, well, I mean that's that's why 186 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: they're not getting the death penalty. They'll get more parenting classes. Yeah, 187 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: he already downgraded it to life without parole. But you 188 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: know that's fake. Now all right again, k IF, I 189 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: will bring you that news conference around five o'clock out 190 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: of Orange County at update on that fire that hit 191 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: those homes in Laguna Miguel, destroying at least twenty very 192 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: high end expensive, some three to four million dollars homes. 193 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: You'll see what's going on in that story coming up. 194 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm in the five o'clock hour back to the homeless, 195 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: but I don't know. Usually I think it comes in June. 196 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 1: We're going to get the latest homeless count for La County. 197 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: The Orange County homeless count came out earlier this week 198 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: and they're saying it's down twenty percent from the twenty 199 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: nineteen count. The La City Council has agreed to spend 200 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: another three billion dollars. This is that lawsuit, that federal lawsuit, 201 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: the La Alliance for Human Rights. It's been going on 202 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: for years, and this was a tentative settlement that the 203 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: city had reached with this alliance. The County's not included 204 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: in this. They both got sued. So according to this, 205 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: the city will spend three billion dollars over the next 206 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 1: five years to develop as many as sixteen thousand beds 207 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: or housing units for the homeless. Which we've read this 208 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: for years. It's a state on paper, doesn't it. You 209 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: just read the words. Oh, that's it, magic, sixteen thousand 210 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 1: beds will appear and that's all done. Well, yeah, it's 211 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 1: not hard to buy beds, and there's plenty of land, 212 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: and there's plenty of empty buildings in the city. Why 213 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: is this so complicated? Yeah, but what do we know now? 214 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: What do we know now? A lot of the homeless 215 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: will not go into congregate living. They will not go 216 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: into a shelter with a bed. They don't want that. Well, yes, 217 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: so there has to be a second part to this, 218 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: and we all know what it is. You're given the 219 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: choice of the bed or get out off the sidewalk 220 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: out of the park, off the road. It's got to 221 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: be there. It's what they do in New York. The 222 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: New York has plenty of homeless people, but most of 223 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: them are indoors, especially at night, because the law there 224 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: is okay, we've made lots of bedspace, got to go 225 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: in now, you cannot camp on the streets. And there's 226 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: a lot less public homelessness in the streets in New 227 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: York compared to LA. And this has been the fight, 228 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: is forcing them to go indoors or force sham to 229 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: get out of the city and go someplace where, some 230 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 1: city where they'll put up with it. We've said there's 231 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: one hundred times. I'm gonna keep saying that. There's plenty 232 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: of towns in La County that are embedded inside the 233 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 1: city of Los Angeles, like Beverly Hills or Culver City, 234 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: or they border the city of La and they don't 235 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: have this. They just don't because in their jurisdiction, you 236 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: can't sleep in the streets in public, no way ever, 237 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: not in the park, not in the sidewalk, not in 238 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: the road. Now, so that has to be part two. Now, 239 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 1: the city, according to this is only going to be 240 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: responsible for people with serious mental illness, substance use issues, 241 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: or chronic physical illnesses. To me, that's a lot of 242 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: the homeless. When you mental issues and substance use issues, 243 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: you don't want to that's a lot of the chronic 244 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: outdoor people. But I don't know who's responsible for it. 245 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: See what I'm afraid of is what always happens is 246 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: three billion dollars is given to the middlemen, and here 247 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: comes the homeless industrial complex spending the money where they 248 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: pay you a little outreach workers to go out there 249 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: and say, would you like to come in and get 250 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: some No, okay, And it's got to be it's gotta 251 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: be forced. You got you gott to force them to 252 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: take the treatment, force them indoors, or they have to 253 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: be forced to get out of town. You know. I 254 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: read today a very long interview with a mental health expert. 255 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: I mean, this guy's been studying mental disorders for over 256 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: fifty years and he's one of the elite in the field. 257 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: And it was actually a very depressing story and he said, 258 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: he said the future is bleak for mental health treatment. 259 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: He says, the industry really hasn't figured things out. Nobody 260 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: knows what to do drugs sort of work on some people, 261 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: but often they cause more problems, And he goes, it's 262 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: still a big mystery as to why people are mentally ill. 263 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: How much of it is childhood trauma, how much of 264 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: it they're bored with, you know, all the different variations. 265 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: He goes, The psychiatry field is a disaster, it really is. 266 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: It's probably, he says, it's probably the least respected profession 267 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: in this country, and with good reason that all this 268 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: help doesn't do anything because they don't know what to do, 269 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: because mental illness is its own strange beast, and it's 270 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: extremely difficult on families, which is why they end up 271 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: in the streets, because it's overwhelming and and there isn't 272 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: a lot of empathy from the outside world. Most people 273 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: are too spooked when they see mental illness. It scares them, 274 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: makes them uncomfortable. They don't really want to hear about it. 275 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: They don't want to hear about you know, your your 276 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: kids mental health problems. Right, It's like no way to 277 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: make a friend to start talking about your family's mental 278 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: health issues. People just don't understand it, and they don't 279 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: want to understand it, and they just want somebody to make, 280 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: you know, all the craziness go away. And you know 281 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: it's funny because he didn't do any raw ra, he 282 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: didn't endorse any particular approach. He basically said, look, none 283 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: of it works, and I don't know when anybody's going 284 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: to figure out what to do. So oh well that's 285 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: not promising. So that's why you just have to kick 286 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: them out and let them go somewhere else. All right, 287 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: let me come back. Expected to be a long meeting 288 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: at the California Coastal Commission. What are they talking about? Well, 289 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: a lot of people like the idea of desalination plants. 290 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: There's one that could go up in Huntington Beach and 291 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: Newsom supports it. A lot of environmentalists do not. We'll 292 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: talk about it coming up next. This week, it's Safeway 293 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: Enjoy big savings with the Bogo Sail, where select items 294 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: throughout the store are buy one, get one free. With 295 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: this week's Bogo Sail gets select meets like Signature Farms, 296 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: ninety percent lean ground beef or booneless skinless chicken breasts 297 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: or thighs, Buy one, get one free, plus select fresh 298 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: produce items like one pound containers of sweet strawberries. Or 299 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: containers of blueberries or buy one, get one free. Safeway 300 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: coming and explore and see what other deals you can find. 301 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: There's a news conference scheduled at five o'clock down at 302 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: Orange County to update you on the fire that burned 303 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: through Laguna negeliasterday. The coastal fire took out at least 304 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: twenty homes high ends, high end homes of Buddlefield Views. 305 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: We'll see what's new and we'll carry that news conference 306 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: as long as it makes sense. Coming up after five 307 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: o'clock and what's expected to be an all day meeting 308 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: of the California Coastal Commission. Seriously, it could go twelve 309 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: hours before they vote. The vote is about something that 310 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: has been on the drawing board for decades, a desalination 311 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: plant in Huntington Beach. And it's not desalinization. I hear 312 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: people pronounce it that way. It's just desalination. There's no zen. 313 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: I'll make a note of that, Okay. It takes ocean water, 314 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: remove salt and other elements to make a drinkable I 315 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: should probably figure that out. Very common around the world, 316 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: very effective, and since everybody's screaming we're running out of water, 317 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: there should be no debate on this and when Governor 318 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: Knewsom favors the idea, so John Coe Belt and Gavin 319 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: Newsom agree. Well, Michael Schellenberger, who's running against Gavin Newsom, 320 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: and you should vote for him. He is our voter 321 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: guide pick for governor, talked yesterday about two different kinds 322 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: of environmental groups. One set of environmental groups push for 323 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: policies that include human beings, and then the other environmental 324 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: groups wish all human beings would die. Well that's pretty extreme. Yeah, 325 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: well basically that's that's the bottom line. I'd like to 326 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 1: think nobody wishes all human beings would die. Oh, sure 327 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: they do. I mean, I mean I have a list 328 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: of some, but nobody. That's what it comes down to, 329 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 1: because all there and I see this because when you're 330 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: trying to do a major project, if you want it, 331 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: if you want to kill it, or you want to 332 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: make an argument to kill it, there's always a hundred 333 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 1: things to do, one hundred reasons you can give, right 334 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: because these are all very complicated projects, and you could 335 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: make a case, and you know much of the public 336 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: has no idea if you're right or not, so you 337 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 1: just have to say it. You just have to word 338 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: it in a certain way and be very dramatic and 339 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: be emotional and make it sound like building it's going 340 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 1: to destroy the world, and you could gin people up 341 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: in opposition. I mean, it's really easy to build a 342 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: propaganda case against a necessary project. That's why I don't 343 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 1: really care about their reasons, because their desalination plants all 344 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: around the world, and they work fine, and they bring 345 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: in a lot of water. We need it, so their 346 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: argument doesn't matter, unless, of course, they want us all 347 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: to die or at least move out of state and 348 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: not drink water anymore. Well, there were several reasons that 349 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: are being argued against it. Number one, they say Orange 350 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: County doesn't need it. Orange County has adequate supplies of water. 351 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: They don't need it, so they'd have to sell it, 352 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: sell the water well, it could be very expensive. Do 353 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 1: they have customers. Supposedly they do well. San Diego County 354 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: has already got a desalination plant. They've had it online 355 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: for a while. It's supporting about ten percent of their 356 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: water needs. NEWSOM put it this way, and it's it's 357 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: newsome classic. We need more tools in the toolbox. It's 358 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: a good money isn't it. Well, you meaning any way 359 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 1: we can increase the water supply even if it's you know, 360 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: this water could go beyond just Orange County. As I said, 361 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: they can sell it, of course, but it's very expensive. 362 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: But then you have to Yeah, but the thing is 363 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: when you're headed, if they're seeing, this is where you 364 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: catch them to see if they're telling the truth. If 365 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: you say the whole state is drying up and this 366 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: could go on for a long time, then it doesn't 367 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: matter what it costs, because the alternative is we all die. 368 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: We got nothing coming out of the tap. So if 369 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: we're going to survive, or at least we're going to 370 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: continue living here, then we're gonna need it. And by 371 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 1: the way, please don't tell me about the costs. I mean, 372 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,959 Speaker 1: they just blew white, you know, eleven billion dollars on 373 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: that fake high speed rail train. So you know they 374 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: use that line very conveniently. Oh, prisons are too expensive, 375 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: Yeah right, okay, so let all the psychotic felons run free. 376 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: Water is too expensive? Uh? Really, well, then what are're 377 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: supposed to do not drink water? Again? Well, the other 378 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: argument is it's gonna kill marine life because when you desalinate. 379 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: What is left over is discharged, and it's apparently a salty, briny, 380 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: soupy foul and say that it's gonna kill organisms that 381 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: form the base of the ocean's food web. That's their 382 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: argumentae marine life. You know how big the Pacific Ocean is. 383 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I'll go online and come up with the 384 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: size of the Pacific Ocean in square miles and the 385 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: number of gallons of water. It will destroy the marine 386 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: life around the plant. Well, if what they say is true. 387 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: And remember the key to advocacy is lying and exaggerating. Yeah, 388 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: to get people emotion, you do not. I was just 389 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: reading a piece about this the other day. Nobody wins 390 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 1: an argument in politics with facts and logic. It's about 391 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: manipulating a motion. That's how you win. So of course 392 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: they're gonna say, oh my god, over the sea life 393 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: is gonna die. Of course they're gonna say that. How 394 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 1: else do they get their donations? How else do they 395 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: do they scare people into agreeing with them, because again, 396 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: most of us we don't know. But I'm thinking it's like, okay, 397 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: let's say that's true. It's gonna be over a small area, 398 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: and what's the alternative. We die. See, sometimes you have 399 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: to make a choice, is it us or them? So 400 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: it's supposed to produce fifty million gallons of water a day. 401 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 1: That's what it'll do if they build the Huntington Beach plant. 402 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: The company behind it got a great name, Poseidon Water. 403 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: You like that one. Yeah, it's a billion one point 404 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: four billion dollars it's going to cost to build it. 405 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: It's other claims it's too expensive for fifty billion gallons 406 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: of water a day. Okay, you know how many gallons 407 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: of water or in the ocean Pacific ocean trillions, three 408 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty two quintillion gallon quintillion a right, that 409 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:14,479 Speaker 1: would be three fifty two, three six nine fifteen eighteen zeros. 410 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: Behind it, we want to use fifty billion at a 411 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty two quintillion. Oh and it rains 412 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: all the time over the ocean, so that what is 413 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: all going to get replaced? Yes, way out there somewhere 414 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: it's raining. It's right, so the oceans always In fact, 415 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: what are they claiming. They're claiming that the sea levels 416 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: are going to keep rising, right, because the glaciers are melting, 417 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: the icebergs are melting and the ocean's gonna keep rising. 418 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: So it looks like it's unlimited water. Why don't we 419 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: take it and recycle it, do the desalination, and then 420 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: we need less water from the Colorado River, less water 421 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: from the Sierra Nevada mountains. They claim the drought's going 422 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 1: to go on and on and on and on. Right, 423 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: I don't I don't understand this. That's why some calls 424 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: it a tool in the toolbox. Right, This is why 425 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: some other source, some other way to get water. It's 426 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: what Schellenberger said. It's environmentalists who do not want humans around. 427 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: They're they're anti human environmentalists. They don't want us drinking water. 428 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: Every project they object to because they'd like us gone. 429 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: And I think some of them would like us dead. 430 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: And another good reason to support it. The La Times 431 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:29,479 Speaker 1: Steve Lopez is against it. Oh you know something, Steve 432 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: Lopez should be working running a convenience store. He doesn't 433 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: know anything. His opinions are stupid. Honestly, he really is 434 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: not a bright guy. I don't care what he says 435 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: any more than I care what like a homeless guy 436 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: in skid row? Hey, Hey, what do you think about 437 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: the desalination play yea four against it. You wouldn't talk 438 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: to a guy in the street, what do you talk to? 439 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: Steve Lopez bore all right, that news conference we're expecting 440 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: some time around five or after five out of Orange 441 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: County about the big fire yesterday in Laguna Niguel or 442 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: at least twenty homes, and we'll get a full update 443 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: on what's going on there from fire officials and other 444 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: county officials coming up after five o'clock. As you probably 445 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: are aware, anyone that pays any attention, it's been a 446 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: tough time for the stock market this week. But the 447 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: one that's really killing people and we're not involved in it, 448 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: is cryptocurrency. Let's spend a few minutes on this because 449 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: it's fascinating. The cryptocurrency market now has a market capitalization 450 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 1: of one point two trillion dollars. You know what it 451 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: was in November two point nine trillion. Yeah, there were 452 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: stories of people ready to commit suicide. They put their 453 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: whole lives into this and they're watching it fade away. No, 454 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: it's real. I went on read it, you know, the 455 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: message board. I was reading all these suicide posts. They're 456 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: going to jump out of buildings like they did in 457 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: the nineteen twenty nine They're going to kill themselves. They 458 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: got friends who's trying to kill themselves because they borrowed 459 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 1: lots of money from a bank or some brokerage, hundreds 460 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: of thousands of dollars and they put every penny into 461 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: a cryptocurrency and the whole thing has gone bust, and 462 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: they're they're they're ready there. Yeah, they're gonna kill themselves. 463 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: What they have to hope for is what they call 464 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: buy the dip. That some people look at this as 465 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 1: an opportunity to get into cryptocurrency that they or may 466 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: not happen. There is no reason to buy into cryptocurrency. 467 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,479 Speaker 1: There is no value in it. If you buy Apple, 468 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 1: you know Apple's going to sell phones. They might have 469 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: a bad year this year, right, But buying the dip 470 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: means you think they're going to be selling more phones 471 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: next year or making more profit. That makes sense. But 472 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: there's there's nothing in cryptocurrency. It's a ponzi scam. It's 473 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: a digital currency, right, but it's a currency. It's it's 474 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: not a thing. But people, some people believe that it 475 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: is the future and it will replace all currency. Right, Therefore, 476 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: it can be worth a lot, but it's not reasonable. No, 477 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: it's not reasonable because how do you even use it 478 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: every day? You can't. Well, people buy stuff with bitcoin, 479 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: don't they. Yeah, they can, but it's not easy and 480 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: it's not something you can, you know, easily go to 481 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: the grocery store or go, you know, to the furniture store. 482 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: It's not but we have we have dollars. Those work great. 483 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: Do you think somebody said that years ago about credit cards? 484 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 1: You can't kind of cards can't replace cash? How do you? 485 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure somebody did. Except it's not a it's not 486 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 1: a different currency, it's it's well, it's back by the 487 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: same it's backed by they say it's back by the 488 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 1: US government. This cryptocurrency. I read the other day there's 489 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: billions of dollars being stolen from people's cryptocurrency accounts. It's 490 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,719 Speaker 1: it's all by hackers. Hackers, yeah, because some people keep 491 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: their cryptocurrencies with these like middlemen, right, who will store 492 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: it for you. But all these accounts are getting hacked 493 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 1: and the money gets sucked out. You never see it again. 494 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: At least here, the federal government ensure as your accounts 495 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: up to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars per account, Right, 496 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: it's the fdi C. Well, there's a if there's such agency, 497 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: there's no there's nobody to appeal to. This is a 498 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: racquet where you buy in and then you sell it 499 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: after it goes up, always hoping there's somebody who's going 500 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: to pay a higher price. There's no intrinsic value to 501 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: the thing. Like if I have a car, okay, I 502 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: can drive the car, I can use it. Right. If 503 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: I have a field of grain, all right, I can 504 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: grow wheat and turn that into bread. You have cryptocurrency, 505 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: you don't have anything. Yeah, but there are lots of 506 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: things that are services that are not. You see what 507 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying. People sell their service. They sell not everything 508 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: concrete that you can hold with your hands, but there's 509 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,239 Speaker 1: still an economy for it. Yeah, but this is not 510 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: a service. Even this is a This is fake money 511 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: created on a computer. But what if it becomes the 512 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: currency of the future. Well, you can say that about anything, 513 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: but at least Look, you want to convert your money 514 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: into eggs and you start paying people in eggs. Okay, 515 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: I see that, right, you can convert it into flowers. 516 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: You pay people in flowers, right, there's an strange question 517 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: whether I understand what you're saying. But I'm saying this 518 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: could become the acceptable form of payment maybe fifty years 519 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: from now, replacing all cash and all other but today 520 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: currencies today, it's a Ponzi scheme because it may very 521 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: well be because it couldn't collapse. Yeah, well it is collapsing. 522 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: I mean, one one, most people believe eventually there will 523 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: be an all digital world. Well currencies are those are 524 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: those hypsters who profit from pumping up the value of 525 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: these currencies, and so they they're they're they're like evangelical ministers, right, 526 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: the snake oil salesman. And from the old days, you 527 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: just you just get everybody, this is new, this is 528 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: gonna bean the well. I heard this from the dot 529 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: com crowd twenty years ago, and nine percent of those 530 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: businesses went belly up. How about about the mortgage crowd 531 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: from you know, the mid two thousands. Now, this is 532 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: this is gonna this is gonna go ad. I think 533 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: it'll still be around, though, I just the technology. There'll 534 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: be a shakeout of people who just got in there. 535 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: They're trying to make a quick buck. The technology will 536 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: be around. The technology can be useful. The idea of 537 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: this cryptocurrency being something you can invest in the way 538 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: you would invest in a stock, a company, or a 539 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: commodity like grain or oil. Now it's it's it's ridiculous. Well, 540 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: if it continues like this, we may see a jump 541 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: in the suicide rightifed on these stories we're reading, Yeah, 542 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: you fee, these people are just dramatic. If you go 543 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: to these message boards they have now, they put like 544 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna lose my home, I'm gonna be homeless as 545 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: one person. They have suicide hotline numbers. I was reading 546 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: these earlier this afternoon. I got a page on my iPad. 547 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: I was going to get your jolly's huh reading about 548 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: people's suicide. Well, because I you know, I don't. I 549 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: don't have any I don't have any empathy for them 550 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: at all. Because so you borrowed four hundred fifty thousand 551 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: dollars and you spent it on and it's not even Bitcoin, 552 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: it's like with some other odd ball. That's another thing. 553 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: There's actually hundreds of these fake currencies. Yes, and well, 554 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: you think all these guys are honest who created their 555 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: fake currencies? You don't think that they set up a 556 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: racket that they pumped up with all kinds of hype 557 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: on the Internet, and there's so many gullible stupido stooges, 558 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: stupido stuges. All right, we're expecting a news conference at 559 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: of Orange County about the big fire yesterday Laguna na 560 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: Gel standpy for that. John and Ken Debmark has the news. 561 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: KFI AM six Sporting