WEBVTT - #135 - David Sabastian

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<v Speaker 1>Say, man, it's the Bootleg cav podcast. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome,

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<v Speaker 1>Dope Dope episode today with the artist named David Sebastian.

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<v Speaker 1>He's from Los Angeles, California. He's a designer, an authorland.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's going to tell you all that he is,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's an incredible artist as well. We had him

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<v Speaker 1>pre style on the show not too long ago and

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<v Speaker 1>he did his thing. Shout out to David Sebastian. Shout

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<v Speaker 1>checkout all right, yo, let's get into this interview. I

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<v Speaker 1>promise you it's a good one. David Sebastian. Let's get it, yo.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a bootleg cap podcast special guests in here, David Sebastian.

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<v Speaker 1>What's good you're doing? He's a rapper, he's an artist,

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<v Speaker 1>he's an author. I mean, how many hats are you wearing? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>clothing line, I'm wearing them all at the moment. Literal art,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say definitely a musician, Uh, designer, author, activist, philanthropist.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a big word for saying, you know, you help

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<v Speaker 1>out the community in some way everything. Man, I'm about

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<v Speaker 1>to drop a cookbook, a raw vegan cookbook, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so I guess I'm a chef now too, you feel

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<v Speaker 1>so explain the raw part because some people say they're vegan.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I just talked to you about it, you

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<v Speaker 1>were like, no, I eat everything raw now, so what

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<v Speaker 1>does that mean? It's just electric foods. You know, like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times when you cook your food over

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<v Speaker 1>certain temperature, you cook out all the nutrients. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>something that's kind of new for me. But I like

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<v Speaker 1>it because you know your whole life, you learn how

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<v Speaker 1>to cook a certain way right, and then when you

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<v Speaker 1>can't do that anymore, it forces your mind to create

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<v Speaker 1>new ways to do it. And then the cookbook thing

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<v Speaker 1>was just like a lot of my niggas who like

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<v Speaker 1>in the hood, don't know how to cook, don't yo

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<v Speaker 1>raws to expend like an easy applicable way to make

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<v Speaker 1>raw dishes that look good, that taste good, that make

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<v Speaker 1>you feel good for like under ten dollars. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>so is raw. Like essentially, you go to the store,

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<v Speaker 1>you buy vegetables and then you just eat them that way. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but you don't. You don't just take some colar grains

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<v Speaker 1>and just eat them, right, So like a vegan dish

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<v Speaker 1>would be, I mean, a raw dish would be like

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<v Speaker 1>you get a collar green, right, and then you get

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<v Speaker 1>some hummus, put some hummus in it, you chop up

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<v Speaker 1>some onions, you put a little deal on it, you

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<v Speaker 1>cut up some garlic, you add some you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just playing with flavors. So then you roll that up.

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<v Speaker 1>I like, make this like raw sushi. I roll it

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<v Speaker 1>up and it just tastes incredible. Man, little sesame seeds

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<v Speaker 1>in it. As opposed to like cooking, opposed to cook food.

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<v Speaker 1>I've lost twelve pounds in about two weeks. Big, and

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<v Speaker 1>so this is something new you just started. I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>thirty days in. Do you know I'm going to my

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<v Speaker 1>birthday because I love I love meat. Paul's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>love I love I love me me too. Man. You

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<v Speaker 1>know that's why I can never I just I respect

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<v Speaker 1>people who say they're vegan. Yeah, because I couldn't. I

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<v Speaker 1>just can't even process. But it depends on how much

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<v Speaker 1>you value. So when I eat meat, and I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>just a fucking carnivore, I'm tired all the time. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>fucking sleeping in meetings, I can't move, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. I'm like in this constant state of like narcosis. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So but I'm eating good right, but now I'm raw

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<v Speaker 1>And it doesn't really fuck with like eating some ribs,

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<v Speaker 1>some jerk chicken. But I stay up nineteen hours out

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<v Speaker 1>the day. I can run fucking as long as I

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<v Speaker 1>want to. You know, I just feel incredible, feel amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you going so after your birthday you're gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>back to eating meat? No? On my birthday, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to eat a dish, a dish, A dish. What would

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<v Speaker 1>that dish? Be like some grade eight wagoo fucking you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just top maybe like thousand dollars fil a wagoo. The

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<v Speaker 1>wagoo's the one. Yeah, that's the wagon. That's a nice

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<v Speaker 1>way to treat yourself. Yeah, well listen you you came

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<v Speaker 1>up on our show what like March or April of

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<v Speaker 1>last year. Yeah, killed your freestyle. You put out some records.

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<v Speaker 1>You just put out a audio book called Imagination Time. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>For people who don't know what that means, explain to

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<v Speaker 1>me the first of all, the inspiration for this book

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<v Speaker 1>and what is what does it mean? So the inspiration

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<v Speaker 1>behind it was one of my good friends, Jermaine. He

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<v Speaker 1>sent me an audio book maybe six seven years ago

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<v Speaker 1>by a guy named Neville Godard who was a speaker,

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<v Speaker 1>a positive speaker in the forties and the fifties, and

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<v Speaker 1>it changed my life. It absolutely changed my life. And

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<v Speaker 1>it all centered around your imagination, essentially being God. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So this thing, this entity that we call God, is

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<v Speaker 1>the human imagination. Right, Like, if you look around this room,

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<v Speaker 1>what's one thing in here that wasn't created by someone's imagination? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>That's fair. The artwork, the music in it, it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>everything is essentially created by your imagination. So this audio

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<v Speaker 1>book taught you how to utilize your imagination to create

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<v Speaker 1>the desired reality you want. So I started listening, listening

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<v Speaker 1>to it and practicing it, and then I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh fuck, and this is a book that's old. It's old,

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<v Speaker 1>it's yeah, from the forties, it's some talking from forties, fifties,

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<v Speaker 1>it's on YouTube typing how to use your imagination. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's brilliant. So I started using it and my life

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<v Speaker 1>started changing. Because before that, I did a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>busy work. I did a lot of like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes we do a lot of things to feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing something. I was just always I'm doing this,

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<v Speaker 1>doing this, doing this. But once I learned the power

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<v Speaker 1>of my imagination, it's like you ever heard the expression,

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<v Speaker 1>like a big dick, don't got to move that much, right?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? You don't got to do

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<v Speaker 1>too much. You know, you can literally just think it

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<v Speaker 1>and create it into your reality. So long story short,

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<v Speaker 1>just looking at all these teachers and philosophical people, you

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<v Speaker 1>got esther Hicks, you got fucking all these people. They're

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<v Speaker 1>all like older, like white people, you know, they're all

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<v Speaker 1>like older white people, and there's no real representation in

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<v Speaker 1>the audio book Self Help Space, especially from someone who's

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<v Speaker 1>tattooed like me and as a rapper in Indy streets,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So really it just happened like that, like, Yo,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to speak a language that my people understand

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<v Speaker 1>and then teach them the power of their imagination. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's how it started. Yeah, so like explain kind of

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<v Speaker 1>you said that during the pandemic you had kind of

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<v Speaker 1>started practicing Yeah, this, I guess, I guess imagination time. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so kind of give people like a breakdown on like

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<v Speaker 1>what that entails and like so so when you wake

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<v Speaker 1>up and before you go to sleep, your your mind

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<v Speaker 1>enters something called rim sleep, right, and it's where you

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<v Speaker 1>don't really your subconscious doesn't know the difference between a

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<v Speaker 1>dream and reality, right, So that's the that's the best

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<v Speaker 1>time to impress upon thoughts in your mind that you

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<v Speaker 1>want to create, because your subconscious is going to materialize

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<v Speaker 1>them because they don't know if it's real or if

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<v Speaker 1>you're in a dream. So I would wake up and

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<v Speaker 1>at this time I was living at the Orsini. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you know where the or scene is? Is that downtown?

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<v Speaker 1>It's downtown. It's like these hood projects, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>Niggas was getting robbed in. It's not like fucking the projects, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like some it's like where like if you're an

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<v Speaker 1>upscale drug dealer, you move to and you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>get some like luxury or whatever. But I was in

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<v Speaker 1>this one bedroom and I just finished living in my office,

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<v Speaker 1>which was an upgrade, and I wanted a penthouse. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted a penthouse, and I wanted a beautiful fucking girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>And I wanted my music to go somewhere, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I wanted a record deal, but I wanted the

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<v Speaker 1>right record deal. I wanted real equity, and I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>a couple other things that I just wanted. And I

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<v Speaker 1>started waking up and I would go. I would spend

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<v Speaker 1>I first started off at ten minutes, and I moved

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty minutes, and then now I do thirty minutes

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<v Speaker 1>a day. And what I would do is is I

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<v Speaker 1>would lay down and I would myself in a situation

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<v Speaker 1>in the future, given that I had all the things

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<v Speaker 1>that I wanted. So if I have the penthouse, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd envision me I close bys and I'd wake up

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<v Speaker 1>in my mind in that penthouse and I'd look outside

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd be like, it's fucking beautiful up here. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the girlfriend of my dreams would be laying

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<v Speaker 1>in the bed and she'd be like, you want me

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<v Speaker 1>to cook you some food? And I'm like, yeah, cook

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<v Speaker 1>me some food. And I'd walk around. I'd get phone

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<v Speaker 1>calls about, you know, with my lawyer talking like every

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you create just like a movie. When you

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<v Speaker 1>write a script, you're writing a script for your future life, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you live in that reality and then you

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<v Speaker 1>let it go. You would just wake up and go

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<v Speaker 1>about your day. You don't worry if it's gonna happen,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't worry why it's not happening. You don't even

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<v Speaker 1>worry about the current reality. You just let it go,

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<v Speaker 1>like you just watched the film and then crazy shit's

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna start happening to you. Man. I've seen it

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<v Speaker 1>happen to me. I've seen it happen to my friends.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen it happen to my mom who practices it now.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, one thing led to another. It's the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, fuck, everybody's on their phones now. Something said

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<v Speaker 1>you'll drop your album I'm like, drop my album, but

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<v Speaker 1>how am I going to upload it to this and

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<v Speaker 1>I can't sell it on your website. I'm like, sell

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<v Speaker 1>it on my fucking website. Okay, fuck it. End up

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<v Speaker 1>making too much money and then end up leveraging that

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<v Speaker 1>into you know, a situation, a situation and the great situation,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I end up getting that fucking penthouse and

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<v Speaker 1>end up meeting this girl who I'm not with anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think I met her last time. Yeah, she

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<v Speaker 1>was fine, she was beautiful human being. It's nice, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>very nice. She was fine and she was nice, But

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<v Speaker 1>that didn't work out because you know, you ever heard

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<v Speaker 1>the same be careful what you asked for? Definitely. You

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<v Speaker 1>know you you may think you want something, but you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be very very specific on what you want

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<v Speaker 1>because you might end up getting exactly what you say

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<v Speaker 1>you want. That's fair. Well, you also, this penthouse you

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<v Speaker 1>had was there was a very bad situation that happened

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<v Speaker 1>for people who don't know it wasn't at this pinho.

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<v Speaker 1>That pinhouse moved to another pinhouse, So where you moved

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<v Speaker 1>for people who don't know, there was in La there

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<v Speaker 1>was a hostage situation that everyone across the world saw

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<v Speaker 1>on online where they there was Was it your lady

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<v Speaker 1>that was being held hostage? She was my friend. Your

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<v Speaker 1>friend was being held hostage at your place by a guy,

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<v Speaker 1>a gunman, and the police, the swat team whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 1>blew blew the wall up or and then rescued her,

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<v Speaker 1>killed the dude, killed the guy in your living room.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not home at the time. You want to even

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<v Speaker 1>know something that's crazy as that was fucking crazy. It

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<v Speaker 1>was very because I was watching and then I saw

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<v Speaker 1>you post like that's my home and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>fuck the Then that's crazy as is. I threw a

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<v Speaker 1>little party the night before and a couple of people

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<v Speaker 1>stayed over and whatever. And my friend, her name is Haley,

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<v Speaker 1>the one who got held it gunpoint. Before I left

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<v Speaker 1>to go to a meeting, right, I said, don't let

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<v Speaker 1>no weird don't let no weird crazy niggas in my house.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I said it. I just looked back.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, don't let no weird crazy niggas in

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<v Speaker 1>my house. And she laughed just like I'm not and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, cool. And then I leave and I

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<v Speaker 1>go to this meeting and then I'm like calling her,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to reach out to her, and she's not picking up,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like that's strange, Like why she's not picking up.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe she's sleep right. And then we get back to

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<v Speaker 1>my house and the entire street is fucking blocked off.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything is blocked off from ear to fucking seventh Street

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, and I'm like, what's going on? And people

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<v Speaker 1>are like, yo, it was a shooting. It was a shooting.

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<v Speaker 1>She was shooting. I'm like, oh shit, you know it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, the gunman ran into your building. Now I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh fuck, he's in my building. Now, it's like crazy

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<v Speaker 1>calling her, she's still not picking up, and something in

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<v Speaker 1>my gut was like, oh fuck, I bet this niggas

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<v Speaker 1>in my house because crazy shit happens to me, like

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<v Speaker 1>this crazy movie. Weird shit just happens. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no reason why she wouldn't be picking up with

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<v Speaker 1>this this and I put you and two together. And

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<v Speaker 1>then someone who I was with, Uh, well, this someone

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<v Speaker 1>I was with was just like, I think someone's in

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<v Speaker 1>your house and I'm like, uh, oh fuck, someone is

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<v Speaker 1>in my house. So the guy had a bad day.

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<v Speaker 1>He went on a fucking shooting rampage, tried to steal

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<v Speaker 1>a car shot, someone pulled a trigger a to another

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<v Speaker 1>dude's head the gun one click, ended up running into

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<v Speaker 1>my building and uh, running into my house, and your

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<v Speaker 1>friend's okay, she's okay, I mean outside of the outside

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<v Speaker 1>of the trauma that this situation. But she's alive, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>which is amazing. But you know, anything could have happened.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when they broke in, you know, he grabbed

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<v Speaker 1>her to shield himself, and it could have went really bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I could have went really really bad. So when they

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<v Speaker 1>because there was like an explosion, right, So, yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>put C four on all my doors. They they blew

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<v Speaker 1>up my crib. They like blew up my crib, my closet.

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<v Speaker 1>That ship is like horrible. So all the ship that

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<v Speaker 1>I manifested to end up getting blown up, which is

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<v Speaker 1>funny as shit, which is crazy. But personal belonging is fucked. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but a lot of them, but none of it means anything.

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<v Speaker 1>It really doesn't. And I can honestly say that to

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<v Speaker 1>anybody probably watching this, like you know, you you work

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<v Speaker 1>your whole life to get new cars and watches and

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<v Speaker 1>clothes and cloths and shit. But they really don't mean anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, man, people all the time. Are you used

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<v Speaker 1>to live there? He doll No, they owe me money too,

0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Santa fe owes me money. If you're a lawyer watching this,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a million dollar civil case ready to go

0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:55.200
<v Speaker 1>get at me, because seriously, they who owes you money?

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<v Speaker 1>The apartment building or the cops, all of them, Okay everybody. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they kind of blew up your your insurance the building

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<v Speaker 1>because the dude shouldn't have been able to get into

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<v Speaker 1>the building. There was a security guard that wasn't on.

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<v Speaker 1>He was working that day, but he was always hollering

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<v Speaker 1>at women, like every time on Netflix or something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he was like that. Every time I see a guy

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<v Speaker 1>working security at a building. He's got his phone, like

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<v Speaker 1>underneath the desk, he's got his little Yeah. Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>ain't fucking tripping, So he should never been able to

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<v Speaker 1>get in that building, you know, let alone up to

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth floor. Oh the fourth floor. Yeah yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a that's not like a yeah yeah yeah, Like so well,

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<v Speaker 1>at least that your friend's find yeah, you know, physically

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<v Speaker 1>she's still here. Yeah, somebody else was scared as fuck.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't scared. I said, she's coming out. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>how you utilize your imagination. You can heal yourself, you

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<v Speaker 1>can heal someone else. You can manipulate a situation simply

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<v Speaker 1>by seeing the outcome and then believing it. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>that's what people would call faith, mm hmm, manifestation, manifestation. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think would you kind of compare the imagination

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<v Speaker 1>time thing to like a form of meditation in a way?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course? Yeah? The focus is a practice. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw that Jim Carrey had tapped in with the audio book,

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<v Speaker 1>said that one of his friends had shared it with him,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he tweeted about it, which is a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, Jim Carrey's probably got one of the

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<v Speaker 1>more incredible imaginations ever. Yo. Did you hear him on

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<v Speaker 1>the Weekend's new album? Yeah, genius, The whole radio station

0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:37.760
<v Speaker 1>is genius. Yeah, the Weekend's album is dope. I fuck

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<v Speaker 1>with it, but not just that's got to be crazy, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like Jim Carrey tweeting about you, I'm blessed. I have

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<v Speaker 1>so much, Yo, I have something I can't even talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that's gonna happen with Jim Carrey that it'll probably

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<v Speaker 1>surface in a couple weeks something collaborative, collaborative music. I

0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:05.760
<v Speaker 1>don't know, that's fair, that's big. Have you met Jim Carrey, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>cool dude, psychedelic electric. He seems like I know he

0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:12.920
<v Speaker 1>does already painted stuff like it seems like a very

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<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, he was. He's always been my favorite actor.

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<v Speaker 1>I love The Truman Show, I love Man on the Moon.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything that he's done has been just remarkable. But I

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of ship up my sleeve this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fucking swinging for the fences. Man on all good

0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:37.760
<v Speaker 1>will collaboration, easy skied roll collaboration, You're gonna you're collaborating

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<v Speaker 1>with yeasy on skid Row. I don't know. I just coughed.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's going on. But a lot, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of a lot of transitions, a lot of new

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<v Speaker 1>things are happening. I'm dropping eight projects this year. Eight yeah. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>when you say projects, music music projects, so yeah, eight

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<v Speaker 1>bodies of work in some capacity this year. Valentine's Day Times,

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<v Speaker 1>I made girls cry in December, dropping AI Artificial Ignorance.

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<v Speaker 1>Throughout the summer, I'm dropping mix tapes in Texas, New Orleans, Canada, Chicago,

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<v Speaker 1>something to go to these regions and work with Manny

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<v Speaker 1>Fresh and New you know, I mean, different producers, rereleasing

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<v Speaker 1>We Are God, There Will Be Blood, which will be

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<v Speaker 1>a Christmas album that I do on skid Row, using

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<v Speaker 1>people from the community to make like the craziest Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>album ever. Wow. You know it's you know, it's interesting

0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:28.959
<v Speaker 1>because like you have, like like you said, you're you

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<v Speaker 1>give back a lot, but you also shine a light

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<v Speaker 1>on skid Row and just kind of the homeless population

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<v Speaker 1>in general in La. Yeah, And I feel like during

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<v Speaker 1>the pandemic, I guess homelessness obviously was on a rise,

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<v Speaker 1>but it also kind of became like the national narrative

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<v Speaker 1>about LA's going to shit because the homeless man, there's

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<v Speaker 1>people sleeping everywhere. It's like, you know, the city can

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<v Speaker 1>fix this. Watch. I was gonna ask you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>your take on that, because you're you know, you're probably

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<v Speaker 1>so just like death right, death is a trillion dollar

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<v Speaker 1>business death, so is a fitness so is homelessness. If

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<v Speaker 1>there was no homelessness, then there wouldn't be these foundations

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<v Speaker 1>to help homelessness, which everyone's got salaries where everyone's got

0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:19.239
<v Speaker 1>these over fluff salaries and it's like a business. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to feed this and the tax write offs

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<v Speaker 1>and all this shit, you know, so they kind of

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<v Speaker 1>needed to exist. And mind you, there are some people

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<v Speaker 1>that live in on skid row who want to live

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<v Speaker 1>on skid row, like you know, not everyone wants to

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<v Speaker 1>live in a house. There's a story of this woman

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<v Speaker 1>who we got housing for, moved into her house and

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<v Speaker 1>then set up her tent in her living room, through

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<v Speaker 1>away all the furniture in the house and set up

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<v Speaker 1>her tent in the middle of her living room. Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>shout out to her. Dedicated. It's dedicated. But so my

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<v Speaker 1>goal isn't to necessarily eradicate skid row for everyone, because

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like there are people who are simply who

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<v Speaker 1>simply want to be liberated from society, who don't want

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<v Speaker 1>any fiduciary responsibility. But the people who do want to

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<v Speaker 1>get out of it. Like I've been doing imagination time

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<v Speaker 1>on skid row, going up to certain people and getting

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<v Speaker 1>them to see what they imagine, and ten out of

0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:20.840
<v Speaker 1>ten of them are just imagining a nice place to sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, man, I just want to live in a

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<v Speaker 1>living room with a nice couch into this and some

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<v Speaker 1>pajamas they just want somewhere to sleep and an opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>There's thousands and thousands and thousands of square foots square

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<v Speaker 1>footage and factories downtown that are vacant that I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to buy. I'm going to buy. I'm going to turn

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<v Speaker 1>it into housing. I'm also going to branch it off

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<v Speaker 1>into my skid Row manufacturing. There should be skin Row

0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:50.359
<v Speaker 1>trash clean up. We're going to start a community garden.

0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:53.200
<v Speaker 1>There's you know, skid Row potato chips because you can

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<v Speaker 1>grow potatoes up. And I have this whole plan of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, getting a potato factory. They're making skid Row

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<v Speaker 1>potato chips. Like I'm just I'm just figuring it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you notice skid Row getting becoming a more like

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<v Speaker 1>or Downtown just in general becoming a more wild place

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<v Speaker 1>the last two years. Yeah, I know it was always

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<v Speaker 1>It's always was wild in pockets, but it felt like

0:21:15.680 --> 0:21:18.600
<v Speaker 1>it's getting crazy. Man. It's feeling like Gotham City right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time I go downtown, it's like it's like I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>every time I go, it's like, damn, sh it's getting crazy.

0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:27.359
<v Speaker 1>And then I'll go two months later it's like fuck,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go a week later. But the crazy thing is

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<v Speaker 1>is on skid Row. It's not crazy, man. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>safer on skid Row than on Melrose, right Melrose, Yeah,

0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:40.240
<v Speaker 1>damn Melroses. It's hot for sure. Melros then used to

0:21:40.280 --> 0:21:42.879
<v Speaker 1>be like that, Yeah, of course, yeah, you know, but

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<v Speaker 1>like skid Row is really a community of fucking people.

0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:50.239
<v Speaker 1>Like it's really like Grandmama's, grand uncles, cousins, it's like

0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:53.200
<v Speaker 1>a it's a community. Yeah, there's some junkies, Yeah, there's

0:21:53.200 --> 0:21:56.600
<v Speaker 1>some this, but it's really good people. Man. Yeah. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you do you cause with your interaction with people on schedule,

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<v Speaker 1>because I always feel like with the homeless thing, there's there's,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, there's people who are there because they

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a choice, so they want to get out

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<v Speaker 1>of it, they want to get into a better place.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there are a fraction of the people who

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<v Speaker 1>have drug problems, who have mental problems, who you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not even talk about people who just want to be

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<v Speaker 1>liberated from society, but people who just are in a

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<v Speaker 1>position where they might have addiction that they're dealing with.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like, like, what do you think is

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<v Speaker 1>the solution for those people? Psychedelics just give everyone some

0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:40.639
<v Speaker 1>shrooms to mayahuasca, not just give it to them and

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<v Speaker 1>say here, take this. But you know, something that I

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<v Speaker 1>want to create is I want to I want to

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<v Speaker 1>create an environment where people going through addiction and trauma

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<v Speaker 1>can be inducted into a program where their diet is

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<v Speaker 1>all raw fruits, raw vegetables, and they micro dose shrown

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<v Speaker 1>and d MT and ayahuasca and they go on and

0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:08.720
<v Speaker 1>inward journey into psyche. And I believe that you can

0:23:08.760 --> 0:23:13.240
<v Speaker 1>help cure a lot a lot. Yeah. I think ayahuasca

0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:15.479
<v Speaker 1>is like the one thing that like, I know people

0:23:15.520 --> 0:23:20.719
<v Speaker 1>who have had lifelong addiction, They've had vices that they

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<v Speaker 1>could never shake, They've had suppressed mental stuff that they

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<v Speaker 1>never even knew was the reason why they were a

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<v Speaker 1>certain way. Because it forces you to, like, have you

0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:36.600
<v Speaker 1>done ayahuaska? Yeah? Yeah? And when i've for me everyone's experiences,

0:23:36.920 --> 0:23:43.120
<v Speaker 1>did you do it with a yeah? Yeah. I'm a shaman,

0:23:43.720 --> 0:23:50.480
<v Speaker 1>are you? Yeah? Well okay, but uh you're an ayahuasca shaman.

0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:54.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm just a shaman in general in life. I respect that, Okay,

0:23:55.240 --> 0:24:02.760
<v Speaker 1>But these drugs or not, this medicine, I don't even

0:24:02.800 --> 0:24:05.720
<v Speaker 1>want to call it a drug, but it helps you

0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:09.520
<v Speaker 1>look at yourself, this character that you created for yourself

0:24:10.560 --> 0:24:13.600
<v Speaker 1>and for me. I looked at all the things that

0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:18.600
<v Speaker 1>made me me, and I don't know, man, it's just

0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:22.160
<v Speaker 1>when I took DMT for the first time, I seen

0:24:22.200 --> 0:24:24.720
<v Speaker 1>these little elves, these mechanical elves, they were just like

0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:27.480
<v Speaker 1>laughing at me. I was like in this whole like

0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:31.439
<v Speaker 1>mechanical realm, and they were just like laughing. And it

0:24:31.520 --> 0:24:36.000
<v Speaker 1>made me feel like in this other dimension somewhere, there's

0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:40.360
<v Speaker 1>people there just laughing at us because we're just fucking yeah,

0:24:40.359 --> 0:24:43.119
<v Speaker 1>we're just so trivial. We're like working our whole lives

0:24:43.160 --> 0:24:45.600
<v Speaker 1>at jobs. We fucking hate to buy shit we don't

0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:50.120
<v Speaker 1>need and do yeah, and just like in fear and shit,

0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:52.879
<v Speaker 1>and they're just like hahha, Like you know, like life

0:24:52.920 --> 0:24:56.800
<v Speaker 1>is so fucking simple. It really is, man. And you know,

0:24:56.960 --> 0:25:00.439
<v Speaker 1>I wear nice shit, not because I feel like it

0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:03.359
<v Speaker 1>brings my value up or to get girls or to

0:25:03.480 --> 0:25:08.600
<v Speaker 1>look cool, but I genuinely I love I'm a fan

0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:11.399
<v Speaker 1>of aesthetics, you know, I love nice ship, but it

0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:14.320
<v Speaker 1>doesn't define me. Man, I get I'll give give shit away.

0:25:14.359 --> 0:25:17.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't give a fuck, you know, yeah, what for

0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:20.280
<v Speaker 1>when you did ayahuasca how did that, like, what was

0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:22.879
<v Speaker 1>that experience like for you? Because you know, sometimes people puke,

0:25:22.960 --> 0:25:25.720
<v Speaker 1>they ship, they're fucking I mean it's for people who

0:25:25.720 --> 0:25:27.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know, it's like a process. It's not like you

0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:30.800
<v Speaker 1>just you get the shivers, you get the shakes. I mean,

0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:33.520
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's like detoxing. It's like when you're going

0:25:33.560 --> 0:25:37.639
<v Speaker 1>through a what do you call it, a hero withdrawals

0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:42.760
<v Speaker 1>and ship. You know, I've heard people say that, like

0:25:43.240 --> 0:25:46.320
<v Speaker 1>there's like a voice you hear or I mean you

0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:49.920
<v Speaker 1>go into the astroplane, you're floating in nothingness, You're going

0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:51.679
<v Speaker 1>through a black hole. I mean me, I don't know

0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:56.800
<v Speaker 1>what anyone else is going, but your time stops. It

0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:59.760
<v Speaker 1>just there is no time, there is no nothing. You're

0:25:59.800 --> 0:26:04.000
<v Speaker 1>like one with everything. That's crazy. And you know, obviously

0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:06.240
<v Speaker 1>for people who don't know, it's like something you drink,

0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:08.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't think. I think people for the

0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 1>most part, probably know about trooms. They probably know about DMC.

0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:12.840
<v Speaker 1>I think ayahuasca is the one thing that's like not

0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:16.480
<v Speaker 1>as easily as accessible. I think it might be pretty

0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:18.280
<v Speaker 1>in the future. I think it's gonna be something more

0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:21.520
<v Speaker 1>people tap into. But can you imagine that creating some

0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:24.320
<v Speaker 1>type of process on skied ule where people are introduced

0:26:24.320 --> 0:26:26.080
<v Speaker 1>to these Yeah, because I do think that that is

0:26:26.160 --> 0:26:29.560
<v Speaker 1>a way that people can really kick real addiction. Yeah.

0:26:29.600 --> 0:26:33.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's like addiction is like, especially to certain shit,

0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:38.000
<v Speaker 1>is like physically hard just to just to do. Because

0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:41.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, if I quit doing this, then I got

0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:44.240
<v Speaker 1>a week of the worst pain of my life coming

0:26:44.280 --> 0:26:46.560
<v Speaker 1>my way. So I'm just gonna keep doing it. And

0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:51.120
<v Speaker 1>there's no likes, you know, I think that that's probably

0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:54.840
<v Speaker 1>one of the bigger reasons why like people end up homeless.

0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Like it is what it is like, you know, being

0:26:57.720 --> 0:27:00.119
<v Speaker 1>a drug addicts a full time job. They say it

0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:02.439
<v Speaker 1>added to anything is a full time job. Yeah, you

0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:04.119
<v Speaker 1>treat it like it's like your job every day to

0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:11.480
<v Speaker 1>get high or whatever whatever that thing is. Yeah, I yeah,

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:15.399
<v Speaker 1>I agree. Yeah. So so you know, I wanted to

0:27:15.400 --> 0:27:16.879
<v Speaker 1>ask you, man, because like I feel like here in

0:27:17.000 --> 0:27:20.600
<v Speaker 1>LA you're like one of the dopest minds we have.

0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you your music is incredible, I feel

0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:28.840
<v Speaker 1>like everything you do is dope. But like, for whatever reason,

0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:31.800
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you're still somehow underappreciated in the hip

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:35.440
<v Speaker 1>hop community. When we think of LA, I just made

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:37.560
<v Speaker 1>you say this. I was thinking about this and you

0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 1>just said it. It's interesting, that's crazy. Why do you

0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:44.399
<v Speaker 1>think that is? And do you give a fuck? I

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:51.720
<v Speaker 1>don't give a fuck, but why do I think it is? Huh?

0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:59.000
<v Speaker 1>So music is on a frequency, right, just like the

0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:03.840
<v Speaker 1>radio station. Right. Life is all about frequencies, right. You know,

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:07.119
<v Speaker 1>when you you can't get you can't get things up.

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:09.240
<v Speaker 1>You can't get things that you get when you vibrate

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:13.000
<v Speaker 1>up here if you're vibrating down here. Right. So music

0:28:13.040 --> 0:28:15.480
<v Speaker 1>as a general, as a whole, it is kind of

0:28:15.560 --> 0:28:19.600
<v Speaker 1>vibrating at this frequency right here, right. And in order

0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:23.840
<v Speaker 1>for it to stay at this frequency, only artists and

0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:30.240
<v Speaker 1>music and thought processes that allow that frequency to thrive

0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:33.080
<v Speaker 1>it so it stays here. When it's here, it's safe.

0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:35.600
<v Speaker 1>It's a lot of money to be made, right, It's

0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:38.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot of my I mean, I could get really

0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 1>deep with you, but you know, music is religion. Music

0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 1>is religion. It's like when you go to a concert,

0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 1>it's like going to church. You know, our bodies are

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:56.200
<v Speaker 1>ninety percent water. Music vibration sounds, especially ato weights, which

0:28:56.520 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 1>resonate with our lower chakras. It can control as it

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:03.160
<v Speaker 1>can manipulate us. It can influence us. So right now

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 1>music is like right here, and our people are being controlled,

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:14.120
<v Speaker 1>influenced and manipulated at this frequency. Now, this guy named

0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 1>David Sebastian, this entity right here, he's vibrating up here.

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 1>And the second that that vibration becomes popular, it's going

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:31.960
<v Speaker 1>to force everyone down here to rise. And now the

0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 1>subject matters are going to change, and now the what

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:37.240
<v Speaker 1>we deem is important isn't going to be. And now

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:43.360
<v Speaker 1>you're going to have a group of people self actualizing

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 1>and asking themselves questions and saying, why do I need

0:29:46.360 --> 0:29:47.960
<v Speaker 1>to buy that? Or why am I that? Or I

0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:50.280
<v Speaker 1>don't want to fucking go to the club today. It's

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 1>like a whole new paradigm shift. And when that paradigm

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:58.200
<v Speaker 1>shift exists, a lot of the shit down here just

0:29:58.200 --> 0:30:01.640
<v Speaker 1>will become irrelevant. It's kind of like, remember joh Rule

0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:04.320
<v Speaker 1>was like the biggest shit on planet Earth, and then

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 1>fifty cent came out and then then he wasn't and

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 1>then he just wasn't. Yeah, because fifty created a new paradigm.

0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:14.360
<v Speaker 1>Kanye shifted the paradigm and he kind of shifted it

0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 1>away from fifty exactly, shifted away from fifty. So every

0:30:18.280 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 1>now and then you have these paradigm shifters. It was

0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 1>very hard. I was talking to Dame about this, very

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:27.080
<v Speaker 1>very hard for dam Yeah, dam Dash. I was talking

0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:30.000
<v Speaker 1>to Dame, and it was hard for jay Z to

0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:32.800
<v Speaker 1>get anywhere. No label would sign them, nobody wanted them.

0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Da da da da Right. Same with Kanye. We hear

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:40.720
<v Speaker 1>about his struggles. Sometimes when you have a new perspective

0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 1>and you're in and and and it's and it's and

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:48.040
<v Speaker 1>it's more futuristic than anyone can currently see, it's always

0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:50.600
<v Speaker 1>going to be a tumultuous thing to get to where

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:53.200
<v Speaker 1>you need to be. Yeah, it's like the it's the

0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:55.720
<v Speaker 1>harder journey, but it's the more fruitful journey once you

0:30:55.760 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 1>get there. It's like like you could dumb your shit down,

0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:00.920
<v Speaker 1>or you could do whateveryone else is doing, and you

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:04.480
<v Speaker 1>could play industry games and worry about all that shit.

0:31:04.520 --> 0:31:06.160
<v Speaker 1>But at the end of the day, like I could

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 1>start a TikTok, I could do a cool dance, I

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:09.640
<v Speaker 1>could do all that. But you know what what I'm

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:12.480
<v Speaker 1>doing right now, what I'm building right now is I'm

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:16.560
<v Speaker 1>building a legacy. It's this legacy, my right I had

0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 1>a waitress come up to me who I didn't even know,

0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 1>and she was like, my son loves you. He's like

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:25.080
<v Speaker 1>seven years old. I play him all of your music.

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 1>I show him all of your art. My entire family's

0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:30.800
<v Speaker 1>rooting for you. We want you to like someone swear

0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:33.000
<v Speaker 1>to God. Like yesterday someone hit me. It was like, David,

0:31:33.040 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 1>I've been following you from the jump since pussing marijuana,

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 1>and I somehow got out of contact with you and

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:41.200
<v Speaker 1>found your Instagram and you were at seventy thousand followers,

0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:43.280
<v Speaker 1>and I got really mad and I was like, I

0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:45.520
<v Speaker 1>got She was like, I got really fucking mad, and

0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 1>she was like, because like the output you put out

0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 1>and the level of work and consistency and blah blah blah,

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 1>like you should have a million plus fucking twenty million followers.

0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 1>And then then she was like, I realized how this

0:31:58.040 --> 0:32:02.200
<v Speaker 1>system is. Man. So I'm not mad because I know

0:32:02.240 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 1>what's going to happen this year. Some major, major things

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 1>are about to change with me being at the forefront

0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:15.000
<v Speaker 1>of culture and yeah, so it's just a matter of time. Yeah.

0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 1>I think like too, Like I feel like you are

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:22.040
<v Speaker 1>building your own ecosystem, your own world. Almost as to

0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 1>where like most artists who come into this game, they're

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:29.960
<v Speaker 1>very much dependent on, you know, going to Grammy parties

0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 1>and networking and you know, just doing whatever they got

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 1>to do just to kind of but I feel like

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:38.480
<v Speaker 1>you're kind of over here building your island, and eventually,

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:41.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, people are gonna come to your island, and

0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:44.280
<v Speaker 1>then hopefully the music industry starts to look a lot

0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:46.800
<v Speaker 1>more like your island. So just I want to paint

0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 1>a quick picture for you. Imagine if David Sebastian number

0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 1>one record on the on the billboard, right, which means

0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 1>that there's a lot of eyes on what I'm doing. Right,

0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Imagine I have a skid Row drop this Friday, right

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:07.120
<v Speaker 1>with millions of eyes on me. Yo, we're dropping this

0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:11.960
<v Speaker 1>skid Row collaboration. And then that drop makes two million dollars.

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 1>And then I take all of that two million dollars

0:33:15.240 --> 0:33:18.479
<v Speaker 1>and I put that into building my factories out and

0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 1>employing the homeless. And then I drop imagination Time, and

0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:24.960
<v Speaker 1>instead of twenty thirty thousand people hearing it, now it's

0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:27.560
<v Speaker 1>millions of people hearing it. And now you have millions

0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 1>of people have an imagination time every morning and every

0:33:30.720 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 1>night and while that's happening, like it's it's going to

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:38.120
<v Speaker 1>be a phenomena. Yeah, hey listen, I don't doubt it, man,

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 1>I look forward to looking back at this interview. Oh

0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:45.880
<v Speaker 1>this is these these are the interviews. Like like I

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:47.720
<v Speaker 1>hate to say nip because I'm not like putting this

0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:50.120
<v Speaker 1>with death or anything, of course, of course, but like

0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:51.920
<v Speaker 1>but no, we go back and we watch old Nipsey.

0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you watch I remember when he died. I went

0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:56.360
<v Speaker 1>back and watched old Nipsey interviews that I've never seen before,

0:33:56.400 --> 0:33:57.720
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, damn this thing. He was a

0:33:58.040 --> 0:34:01.520
<v Speaker 1>talking that shit. He was talking that shit. That's facts, man,

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:05.640
<v Speaker 1>that's facts. Like I think Nipsey like was, for whatever reason,

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:09.279
<v Speaker 1>like ahead of his time. But also like you know,

0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:13.279
<v Speaker 1>I wish he was here to see the love that

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 1>he's got now because like I've you know, I've been

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:17.680
<v Speaker 1>knowing Nipsey since split oh nine is when I first

0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:20.560
<v Speaker 1>met him. Yeah, he was on my show in two

0:34:20.600 --> 0:34:23.280
<v Speaker 1>thousand and nine, and like you know, he was always

0:34:23.320 --> 0:34:26.040
<v Speaker 1>like a like one of our guys, Like you know,

0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:27.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm a fucking hip hop head, so like always was

0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:30.120
<v Speaker 1>rooting for Nipsey, but like just to see like the

0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:31.840
<v Speaker 1>love and like he's become an icon, you know what

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:35.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. Nicon downtown there's a thousand Nipsey murals everywhere.

0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:40.880
<v Speaker 1>You know. There's a saying that great men plant seeds

0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:45.920
<v Speaker 1>for trees for shade, for great men plant seeds for trees,

0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 1>that they won't be able to sit under its shade

0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:50.279
<v Speaker 1>or something to that. Yeah, that makes sense, you know,

0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Like it sucks because I mean in the physical for

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:58.240
<v Speaker 1>him to see the amount of reverence, you know, and

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:00.320
<v Speaker 1>and I know I'm going I'm going to see it

0:35:00.360 --> 0:35:04.200
<v Speaker 1>in this lifetime. I came here for a reason, for

0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:08.160
<v Speaker 1>a purpose, and I think we need liberation more than anything.

0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:12.400
<v Speaker 1>The world needs to be liberated. Culture needs to be liberated.

0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:14.160
<v Speaker 1>We've been in the box for too long. And I

0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:17.839
<v Speaker 1>think COVID has has made a lot of people take

0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:21.760
<v Speaker 1>inward journeys in you know, I think I think COVID,

0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:24.719
<v Speaker 1>aside from the obvious deaths that have come of course,

0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:26.000
<v Speaker 1>of course, but I think it was a blessing for

0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:28.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people as well. Yes, because it forced

0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:31.839
<v Speaker 1>you to sit by yourself. I have a song called

0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Running with the Wolves, where I ask a girl, when

0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:35.880
<v Speaker 1>was the last time you were truly happy when you

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:38.520
<v Speaker 1>all by yourself and you weren't at a party like

0:35:39.400 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 1>we numb ourselves with the viper lea experience going to

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:46.719
<v Speaker 1>the club, going to the bar, dopamine fucking drives and shit,

0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:49.680
<v Speaker 1>what if you're alone at home? Yeah, for a year,

0:35:50.120 --> 0:35:52.960
<v Speaker 1>it's six months or whatever it is. Yeah, man, it's

0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:56.279
<v Speaker 1>fucked because, like everyone I know is depressed right now,

0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:58.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot of I mean that is the one thing

0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:01.759
<v Speaker 1>about COVID. Like my kid who's in high school, he

0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:03.560
<v Speaker 1>was like we had to put him in counting and

0:36:03.600 --> 0:36:07.400
<v Speaker 1>stuff because like he was just going through it with

0:36:07.440 --> 0:36:11.799
<v Speaker 1>his girlfriend and she was his mom and like, but

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:13.839
<v Speaker 1>it was like he couldn't leave his house. He didn't

0:36:13.840 --> 0:36:16.200
<v Speaker 1>have interaction with his friends. He was sitting in front

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 1>of a computer every day for fucking six hours. You know,

0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:21.520
<v Speaker 1>it's different everyone I sit in front of Lately, I've

0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:24.799
<v Speaker 1>been having lunches and everyone just like breaks down mid conversation,

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:30.160
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I try to do my best to

0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:32.000
<v Speaker 1>help or try to inspire as much as I can.

0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:35.319
<v Speaker 1>But I honestly think it's a good thing. I think

0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:37.120
<v Speaker 1>it's a good thing. You know, you got to go

0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:39.640
<v Speaker 1>through it at some point self. Reflection, and you know

0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:41.040
<v Speaker 1>when you come out of it, you come out of

0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:43.880
<v Speaker 1>as stronger. But we are in a very serious place

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:49.000
<v Speaker 1>in the world. Did did you end up catching COVID? Ever, No, no,

0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:53.160
<v Speaker 1>shout out to you. You know it's funny and this

0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:57.240
<v Speaker 1>might sound like some weird superhuman weirdness. Never caught COVID.

0:36:57.680 --> 0:36:59.719
<v Speaker 1>But I was in Atlanta and I was shooting a

0:36:59.800 --> 0:37:02.720
<v Speaker 1>rady interview and this is when COVID was going around.

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:05.880
<v Speaker 1>And I woke up and I couldn't breathe. I had

0:37:05.920 --> 0:37:09.120
<v Speaker 1>the shakes, hot, cold sweat, like for sure it I

0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:13.239
<v Speaker 1>have COVID. I went in the bath, I turned on

0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:17.560
<v Speaker 1>hot water, and I had imagination time, and I imagined

0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:20.080
<v Speaker 1>you didn't have it. The sickness just coming out of

0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 1>my pores and into the water, and literally an hour later,

0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:28.200
<v Speaker 1>I was perfectly fine. Did the interview, no cough, no

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:31.759
<v Speaker 1>nothing interest. I was just fucking great imagination time. For

0:37:31.840 --> 0:37:35.920
<v Speaker 1>people who don't know, they can get the audio book,

0:37:36.280 --> 0:37:38.680
<v Speaker 1>but they it's super simple. They could just if you

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<v Speaker 1>got Zell cash, app Venmo, Apple Pay. So hopefully by

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<v Speaker 1>the time this this airs, it'll be on Audible and

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be on Amazon. Right but right now, go to

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<v Speaker 1>You could text me right yo, it's crazy. When I

0:37:55.840 --> 0:37:58.680
<v Speaker 1>dropped Weird God, I did the same method, text me,

0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:01.799
<v Speaker 1>send me the cash app and literally imagination time. I

0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:04.359
<v Speaker 1>have thousands of text messages in my phone right now.

0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:07.920
<v Speaker 1>You have a separate phone. No, this is my line? Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>Is your Is your number up on your Yeah? Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>it's nine one seven five three five eight five seven seven.

0:38:16.640 --> 0:38:18.319
<v Speaker 1>So if you hear this and you want it, you

0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:19.880
<v Speaker 1>could just text me, like, y'all want to audio? And

0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 1>it's like seven chapters or six seven seven chapters. Yeah,

0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:28.360
<v Speaker 1>it's an easy listen right, very easily. It's me composing

0:38:28.400 --> 0:38:31.239
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing, playing the piano. It's kind of an experience,

0:38:31.440 --> 0:38:33.800
<v Speaker 1>like if you're gonna check it out, you should probably

0:38:34.480 --> 0:38:38.239
<v Speaker 1>be relaxed. In April, I'm dropping another audio book and

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<v Speaker 1>it's called Believing Yourself, And it's more of a episodic

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<v Speaker 1>of how I got to this point, from dropping out

0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:49.280
<v Speaker 1>of high school to becoming a freelance designer, to traveling

0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:51.960
<v Speaker 1>with Steve Aoki and designing his brand of this, and

0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:54.839
<v Speaker 1>to working with Drake on his planes and this and that,

0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:57.080
<v Speaker 1>and just to how I got to this point. It's

0:38:57.120 --> 0:38:59.160
<v Speaker 1>called Believing yourself. So we're going to get to some

0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:01.200
<v Speaker 1>of that, but I gotta take a piss so quick

0:39:01.239 --> 0:39:04.000
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<v Speaker 1>put them odd socks on your ass cheeks and thank

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<v Speaker 1>me later. Yeah. I didn't even see that you had

0:39:56.760 --> 0:40:00.680
<v Speaker 1>posted this Kanye thing. Yeah so you posted this yesterday, right,

0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:04.120
<v Speaker 1>So you and Kanye this there's like an official collaboration

0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:07.600
<v Speaker 1>between Yeezy and skid Row. It's not official. So he

0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:10.560
<v Speaker 1>posted but there's some things in the works. How did

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:12.280
<v Speaker 1>he reach out to you or how did that happen?

0:40:15.440 --> 0:40:17.960
<v Speaker 1>I can't even really talk about that right now for real.

0:40:18.239 --> 0:40:20.680
<v Speaker 1>I promise you when I can, I'm gonna come back here.

0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:23.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give you the whole school. Okay, okay, okay,

0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:26.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's I mean, you put it out there. Yeah,

0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:28.840
<v Speaker 1>but it was a question mark. It was like, is

0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:33.080
<v Speaker 1>this is what's happening here? You know? Talk to me.

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:35.239
<v Speaker 1>How you ended up working on the Drake plaining ship.

0:40:38.840 --> 0:40:41.920
<v Speaker 1>A good friend of mine, Matt Babel, who manages Drake,

0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:45.520
<v Speaker 1>back when I was having some tough times and I

0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:48.840
<v Speaker 1>need some money, he hired me to do freelance design

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:52.279
<v Speaker 1>work for Ovo and for Dream Crew and their whole shit.

0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:56.600
<v Speaker 1>And I just used to just design shirts, merch whatever

0:40:56.680 --> 0:40:59.759
<v Speaker 1>whatever they needed, and uh, he put that on my

0:40:59.800 --> 0:41:01.680
<v Speaker 1>dead was like Drake just as a plane you have

0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:06.040
<v Speaker 1>any ideas. And I had a shoe called air David,

0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:09.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I was just like, ifd be tight,

0:41:09.280 --> 0:41:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Like if I had a plane and called my shit

0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:14.080
<v Speaker 1>air David, and I was like, fuck, I'm probably gonna

0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:16.000
<v Speaker 1>have a jed anytime soon. I was. I just kind

0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:18.319
<v Speaker 1>of gave the idea air Drake, you know, just and

0:41:18.320 --> 0:41:20.080
<v Speaker 1>then you know he has a Nike thing. So it's

0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:23.040
<v Speaker 1>like instead of just do it, I did it, you know.

0:41:23.200 --> 0:41:28.319
<v Speaker 1>Like so I just kind of slid that conceptually when

0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:31.560
<v Speaker 1>it comes to like design, I feel like there's a

0:41:31.600 --> 0:41:37.840
<v Speaker 1>few underappreciated people when it comes to our industry, cameraman, photographers,

0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:39.960
<v Speaker 1>and graphic designers being like at the top of the

0:41:40.000 --> 0:41:42.880
<v Speaker 1>list for sure. I feel like most graphic designers always

0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:45.680
<v Speaker 1>get underpaid or people expect them to do something for free,

0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:47.360
<v Speaker 1>or they'll put a whole lot of work in on

0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 1>a design, they'll submit it and then if the artists

0:41:49.600 --> 0:41:51.680
<v Speaker 1>don't like it, they might never even hear hear from them. Again,

0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:55.000
<v Speaker 1>it depends on how you build. I mean, I was

0:41:55.120 --> 0:41:58.200
<v Speaker 1>that for a couple of years, but now I get paid.

0:41:58.400 --> 0:42:01.000
<v Speaker 1>I started off in this game, I got one hundred

0:42:01.040 --> 0:42:04.799
<v Speaker 1>dollars per design. Then after teenage millionaire, I went up

0:42:04.840 --> 0:42:07.840
<v Speaker 1>to three hundred design, and then I started working with

0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:10.239
<v Speaker 1>Steve Aoki and doing Diesel and Ruka, and then I

0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:13.080
<v Speaker 1>went up to five hundred design, and then I started

0:42:13.080 --> 0:42:15.359
<v Speaker 1>working with von Dutch and pack Son and blah blah blah,

0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:17.560
<v Speaker 1>and I went up to like nine hundred design and

0:42:17.600 --> 0:42:20.560
<v Speaker 1>then blah blah blah. Now I won't touch it if

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:23.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm not getting you know, fifteen to two thousand a

0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:26.640
<v Speaker 1>design and some type of equity and the piece. And

0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:28.120
<v Speaker 1>it's like I was gonna say, like, do you have

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<v Speaker 1>any advice for people who do graphics who are trying

0:42:31.320 --> 0:42:33.840
<v Speaker 1>to figure out how to differentiate or and stop doing

0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:37.839
<v Speaker 1>graphics and do graphics for yourself. Just make your own shit,

0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:40.239
<v Speaker 1>make your own shit, and then make people respect you,

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:43.440
<v Speaker 1>and then then charge them then you can set your price.

0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:46.120
<v Speaker 1>Because if you're a graphic design, like you said, like

0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:50.360
<v Speaker 1>they really treat you like the underbelly of shit when

0:42:50.680 --> 0:42:54.400
<v Speaker 1>it's your ideas and designs that are creating these fucking brands.

0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:58.360
<v Speaker 1>So you know, create something for yourself, build a business

0:42:58.440 --> 0:43:01.160
<v Speaker 1>around it, make something out of it, and then people

0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:03.520
<v Speaker 1>will start coming to you like can you do this,

0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:06.560
<v Speaker 1>then you can set your own price on the clothing shit,

0:43:06.760 --> 0:43:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Like was what were some of the trial and error

0:43:08.960 --> 0:43:11.680
<v Speaker 1>things you had to kind of get through to like really,

0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:14.200
<v Speaker 1>because you know, clothing is a very it's a tough

0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:16.720
<v Speaker 1>business to be in. There's a lot of overhead depending

0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:18.359
<v Speaker 1>on how you do it. You know, there's certain people

0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:21.360
<v Speaker 1>who I mean transparently, I'm currently going through a problem

0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:26.759
<v Speaker 1>because I have like three thousand orders unfulfilled because you know,

0:43:27.040 --> 0:43:31.120
<v Speaker 1>we're we're teaching people, we're taking people off the stream.

0:43:31.200 --> 0:43:34.359
<v Speaker 1>We're essentially teaching them how to screenprint, right, So that's

0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:38.279
<v Speaker 1>a whole thing in itself. But then when you have

0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:41.440
<v Speaker 1>thirty forty skws on a website and people want one

0:43:41.480 --> 0:43:43.839
<v Speaker 1>hundred of these, be twenty of these and thirty of these,

0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:45.680
<v Speaker 1>and you got to print theeves and this and then

0:43:45.719 --> 0:43:48.560
<v Speaker 1>shipping and this, it's like a whole thing. So I

0:43:48.719 --> 0:43:51.320
<v Speaker 1>just shut down the skid Row site just for a

0:43:51.400 --> 0:43:55.279
<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks, shipping everyone their shit out, and I

0:43:55.320 --> 0:43:57.719
<v Speaker 1>brought in a new manager to help run the business.

0:43:57.800 --> 0:44:01.839
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, so you're going through that as we speak. Yeah, yeah,

0:44:01.960 --> 0:44:04.880
<v Speaker 1>going through it as we speak, Because you know, you

0:44:04.920 --> 0:44:07.080
<v Speaker 1>want a million orders. You want people to spend you know,

0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:09.760
<v Speaker 1>a million, but how you're gonna fucking ship a million

0:44:09.880 --> 0:44:11.920
<v Speaker 1>dollars worth of product? You know what I mean? So

0:44:13.160 --> 0:44:17.279
<v Speaker 1>expansion growth. We talked a little bit about, you know

0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:20.399
<v Speaker 1>how I feel like you're underrated in the LA scene.

0:44:20.400 --> 0:44:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Who are some of the artists that you grew up

0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:23.719
<v Speaker 1>listening to that you feel like never really got their

0:44:23.800 --> 0:44:33.000
<v Speaker 1>their full flowers in LA? I don't know. I mean

0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:35.319
<v Speaker 1>the people I grew I grew up listening to Park,

0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I grew up listening to Jay Wayne. You know, like,

0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:43.279
<v Speaker 1>there's like Nip I let's say Nip. I'll say Nip

0:44:44.120 --> 0:44:48.160
<v Speaker 1>because Nip was a purveyor of taste and he had

0:44:48.200 --> 0:44:49.879
<v Speaker 1>that thing and he had to spark and to make

0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:52.880
<v Speaker 1>great music, and he was for the cultures, for hiss hoodies,

0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:56.480
<v Speaker 1>for the people we made good music. And uh it

0:44:56.520 --> 0:45:00.320
<v Speaker 1>was only through his posthumous death that he was a

0:45:00.320 --> 0:45:04.360
<v Speaker 1>appreciate it fully appreciated. But yeah, I've never seen a

0:45:04.440 --> 0:45:06.600
<v Speaker 1>me before though, I've never seen a nigg who do

0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:10.880
<v Speaker 1>all this shit I've done has indirectly and directly affected culture.

0:45:10.920 --> 0:45:14.879
<v Speaker 1>Who hasn't gotten his flowers Yet's say, twelve months from now,

0:45:14.920 --> 0:45:17.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking to you. Let's manifest some shit. What do

0:45:17.600 --> 0:45:18.840
<v Speaker 1>you hope? What do you Where do you hope to be?

0:45:18.880 --> 0:45:21.279
<v Speaker 1>Where do you hope to have happened? This year? Man

0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:28.000
<v Speaker 1>number one across the board and everything, skid Row Manufacturing

0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:33.560
<v Speaker 1>gross fifty million dollars employed, and how thousands of people music,

0:45:33.760 --> 0:45:40.560
<v Speaker 1>number one hit single album, touring across the board, sold out,

0:45:40.800 --> 0:45:46.279
<v Speaker 1>audio books, my publishing company, number one on Amazon, my

0:45:46.440 --> 0:45:51.239
<v Speaker 1>kids program, just drawing, building the school here in New York, Chicago.

0:45:51.480 --> 0:45:55.600
<v Speaker 1>My art and the Louver, the MoMA, the Mocha, you know,

0:45:56.480 --> 0:45:59.080
<v Speaker 1>going for two hundred. I'm about to do an art exhibition.

0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:00.880
<v Speaker 1>That's why I mentioned I'm gonna show you something. I've

0:46:00.880 --> 0:46:06.279
<v Speaker 1>been working on it. I'm doing an art exhibition next month.

0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:14.560
<v Speaker 1>My first time doing these like twenty foot artworks. So

0:46:14.960 --> 0:46:17.600
<v Speaker 1>you can't really see how big these are. But this

0:46:17.680 --> 0:46:22.160
<v Speaker 1>is like twenty five feet. Oh that's fire. They have

0:46:22.280 --> 0:46:30.440
<v Speaker 1>like real hair. Oh shit, Now if somebody wanted to this,

0:46:31.320 --> 0:46:34.239
<v Speaker 1>that's crazy. How big this is what we're saying. I

0:46:34.239 --> 0:46:36.640
<v Speaker 1>was gonna say, hypothetically speaking, someone wants to buy one

0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:38.919
<v Speaker 1>of these? What is it? What is a twenty five

0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:42.040
<v Speaker 1>foot piece of art? Go for from David Sebastian. That's

0:46:42.040 --> 0:46:48.719
<v Speaker 1>a lot so like, so like what com big? This is? Yes,

0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:53.320
<v Speaker 1>that's massive, that's fire. So this I think I haven't

0:46:53.880 --> 0:46:57.240
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be about one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Wow.

0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:02.719
<v Speaker 1>What it like when you painting and making art like

0:47:02.760 --> 0:47:07.000
<v Speaker 1>that is like you gotta have inspiration? Like what is

0:47:07.040 --> 0:47:10.000
<v Speaker 1>it like? Is it something that like how often are

0:47:10.040 --> 0:47:13.600
<v Speaker 1>you working on pieces? Every morning? Four o'clock in the morning.

0:47:13.680 --> 0:47:17.239
<v Speaker 1>I have a regimen four to nine, eight, four to

0:47:17.400 --> 0:47:20.439
<v Speaker 1>nine in the morning, I'm painting nine to three, I'm

0:47:20.440 --> 0:47:25.359
<v Speaker 1>doing business three to seven, I'm shooting content seven to

0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:28.640
<v Speaker 1>eleven or twelve, I'm making music. So you're sleeping three

0:47:28.719 --> 0:47:31.560
<v Speaker 1>or four hours a day kind of yeah. I be

0:47:31.680 --> 0:47:34.759
<v Speaker 1>up with my videographer Esco at three thirty in the

0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:38.600
<v Speaker 1>morning talking shit all day, just working. Do you feel

0:47:38.600 --> 0:47:40.799
<v Speaker 1>like have you always had that kind of like those

0:47:40.840 --> 0:47:46.480
<v Speaker 1>sleep habits? Yes, yes, I love. I honestly like I

0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:50.000
<v Speaker 1>love And if you're listening this, you should try it

0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:55.319
<v Speaker 1>because spiritually the veil is thinnest at three o'clock in

0:47:55.360 --> 0:47:59.080
<v Speaker 1>the morning. There's an energy why everyone is sleep. It's

0:47:59.120 --> 0:48:02.839
<v Speaker 1>like it's like cpu power in your fucking computer. Right

0:48:03.200 --> 0:48:06.200
<v Speaker 1>while everyone's awake, all the energy and everything is being

0:48:06.239 --> 0:48:10.319
<v Speaker 1>distributed evenly. But when motherfuckers asleep, you can just my

0:48:10.480 --> 0:48:14.120
<v Speaker 1>best idea is my best songs. Everything happens three in

0:48:14.160 --> 0:48:16.880
<v Speaker 1>the morning, four in the morning. So you feel like

0:48:17.840 --> 0:48:20.239
<v Speaker 1>what because I feel like most people would think you

0:48:20.280 --> 0:48:22.160
<v Speaker 1>need eight hours of sleep. I know a lot of

0:48:22.160 --> 0:48:24.440
<v Speaker 1>people like usually I get about six, six to seven.

0:48:24.480 --> 0:48:26.319
<v Speaker 1>But I mean, you say you're rolling on four hours

0:48:26.360 --> 0:48:31.000
<v Speaker 1>of sleep. We don't need anything. We have been conditioned

0:48:31.040 --> 0:48:33.719
<v Speaker 1>and told as a as a human race that we

0:48:33.840 --> 0:48:36.080
<v Speaker 1>need this and we need that, and we need this

0:48:36.200 --> 0:48:38.200
<v Speaker 1>or we're gonna be deficient of this and you need this.

0:48:38.600 --> 0:48:40.920
<v Speaker 1>So we believed it, and that belief system is what

0:48:41.640 --> 0:48:44.640
<v Speaker 1>perpetuates the need for that. We need eight hours of sleep.

0:48:45.160 --> 0:48:46.440
<v Speaker 1>So you need eight hours of sleep, and if you

0:48:46.480 --> 0:48:48.480
<v Speaker 1>don't have it, then you feel the als of that.

0:48:48.800 --> 0:48:51.600
<v Speaker 1>You don't need shit. You are You are a fucking god.

0:48:51.680 --> 0:48:54.000
<v Speaker 1>You can do whatever the fuck you want and be

0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:58.799
<v Speaker 1>completely fine, ladies and gentlemen. That is David Sebastian. Yeah,

0:48:58.840 --> 0:49:01.960
<v Speaker 1>and he's got well. So we're clear. People can go

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<v Speaker 1>Believing Yourself Records dot com. You know that's the label.

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<v Speaker 1>If you got a book and you want to get published,

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<v Speaker 1>you know my niggas read books to publishing. That's mine.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. And then eight projects of music coming.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't even talk about the music. Valentine's Day Times,

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<v Speaker 1>I made girls Cry. April re release The Weird God June, Atlanta, Georgia,

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<v Speaker 1>nine to oh some some some here. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>I also got a little calendar of all the this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Ain't fucking around, man, Oh I see it. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>he's done all the artwork already done. I got the

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<v Speaker 1>albums done, everything's done. Is it harder for you to

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<v Speaker 1>do that? While being quote unquote on a major label.

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<v Speaker 1>Where is that part of the deal that you worked

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<v Speaker 1>out this part? I mean they're my partners. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>signed to this. Okay, if it's a joint JV situation,

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<v Speaker 1>But listen, man, if this is this is where you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of zoom into the camera, you get into my face.

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<v Speaker 1>I look at this right here. You could do whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck you want to do. Okay, you could fly

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<v Speaker 1>if you believe it. In order to know you can fly,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta jump first. That's how a bird learns it

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<v Speaker 1>can fly, because the mother fucking kicks it out the

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<v Speaker 1>nest and it falls and then it either fly or die.

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<v Speaker 1>Right And all I'm doing is spreading my wings. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna give it to me, I don't need

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<v Speaker 1>a coach sign. I don't need none of that shit.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of the day, I am waking up

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<v Speaker 1>people one at a time, and all of this is

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<v Speaker 1>going to create this cosmic shift of energy within our people. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna put on the Illis shows without a label.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not even about a label. My self fund that she.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna put on the Illis shows. Drop the illess visuals,

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<v Speaker 1>drop the illess music, the illess merch at the same

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<v Speaker 1>goddamn time gap goodwill collapse. I'm gonna show you something.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't say it online, but yo, look at this Hollywood

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<v Speaker 1>un Locke is dropping this who what me who? It's

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<v Speaker 1>a rap. There it is, go following man. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>thank you and thank you for this interview, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for letting me freestyle. And man, please invite me back anytime.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to come. There it is. Go follow

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<v Speaker 1>this guy, Go support him. David Tebastian