1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: You know we took on Eston Leroy Skillett, what you 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: saw sanfragians Son every day you two year, I wat 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: d look. TV Land got me right. Tv Land got 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: me right on the repeats, go ahead the runs. Yeah, 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: I know. I'm my standford this side in the world 6 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: of vulnerable considered, we come and remote a vail from 7 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: entertainment elite. It's the difference tween what it's real and 8 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: with the public seas. So here's your favorite celebrities behind 9 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: the scenes. It's refreshing. Then the whole story specific life 10 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: all to rendevents to shake the person that you here. 11 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: We gotta champion, they carry champion, the girl you did it. 12 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: It's the greatest of sports and entertainment connected with Hey, everybody, 13 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: welcome back to Naked. I appreciate you guys listening. I 14 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: gotta take a moment to talk about what's been going 15 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: on in the world. But trust me, it does have 16 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: everything to do with our our latest guest. It has 17 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: been a week for me, and I'm talking for me only. 18 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: It's been a weak filled with anxiety, um, numbness, anger, frustration, tears, relief, 19 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: every single emotion you could imagine. I have experienced it. 20 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but if you're part of 21 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: the culture, I'm sure you're right there with me. We 22 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: were all waiting for a verdict in the Derek Chavan trial. 23 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: Guilty on all three counts. Great. I think the reason 24 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: why I said great, and you just heard that sigh 25 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: was because my concern was that if, in fact that 26 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: officer was allowed to walk free. I I really feared 27 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: for reaction, for the world's reaction, I know for a fact, 28 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: and I'm not inciting any type of violence, don't at me, 29 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: but it felt as if we would have burned this 30 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: bitch down. That's exactly what it felt like. That's the 31 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 1: feeling I had. Surprised that there was a guilty verdict 32 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: on all three counts, right, no matter how brutal that 33 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: video is and how smug that officer looks, that former 34 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: officer looks, I don't know what it takes in America 35 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: to send a cop to jail for murdering someone. And 36 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: then I think, if it wasn't for that seventeen year 37 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: old girl who had the guts and the wherewithal too, 38 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: and even quite frankly, the the the mental fortitude to 39 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 1: stay there pressing record, watching that ship go down. I 40 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: don't know. Although they were trying to intimidate her and 41 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: tell her she shouldn't, she still did. Good for you. 42 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: And then and you guys have read what the police 43 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: initially said, man dies in medical interaction after police incident, 44 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: something to that effect. That was. That was the press 45 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: release when it first went down. So what if that 46 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: video wasn't there? What if that what if that evidence 47 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: wasn't around? Well, we know it's not around more often 48 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: than not, right, it is more common to not videotape 49 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: an officer killing a person of color. The level of 50 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: non restraint that they do not display when dealing with 51 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: black and brown people is disgusting. They have incredible restraint. 52 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: If you want to attack the capital, they have incredible restraint. 53 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: If you want to murder, and I'm not being sarcastic here, 54 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: if you want to commit mass murders, incredible restraint. We 55 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: can bring you in, we can go get you something 56 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: to eat, we can talk to you. Because you're one 57 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: of ours. We understand you can walk down the street 58 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: like howle Rittenhouse did with a gun and we can 59 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: just ignore you and understand you're just a citizen with 60 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: the right to bear arms. And then there is a 61 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: young lady, not even a young lady, a little girl, 62 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: a teenager with a butter knife, shot four times in 63 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: the chess. All of it is too much. It is 64 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:42,679 Speaker 1: all too much. But our resilience, and I'm talking about 65 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: black people, is just in our DNA. We don't know 66 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: anything else but to be who are exhausted, We're tired, 67 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: we're frustrated, we're sad. I'm over my tears, but we 68 00:04:53,920 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: are resilient. We are our own street politicians, we are 69 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: our own civil rights leaders in so many different ways. 70 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: And there is so much fear happening right now. And 71 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about our fear. Fear from those who 72 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: see us standing up, who see us refusing to let 73 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: this happen, People with power and platforms like mine, like athletes, 74 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: like whomever's, and you don't even have to have a 75 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: huge platform, but we are taking it anymore, and and 76 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: the fear is palpable. So that's when the lives start 77 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:43,679 Speaker 1: to come in, and that's when the the unnecessary responses 78 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: about well what about this, and what about that? And 79 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: and George Floyd was on drugs, and you know the 80 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: little girl was, you know, danger to everyone and I mean, 81 00:05:54,279 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: come on, come on, save it. I George's Immerman chased 82 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: Trayvon Martin's ass down the street. He didn't. I can't. 83 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: I can't with this justice system. So let's talk about 84 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: the system. The system that has failed us, the system 85 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: that is not just. I felt that there was accountability 86 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: with the verdict, but you still can't be happy with that. 87 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: You want to be, but you're like, I mean literally, 88 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: it's no words. Then we also feel some joy, some relief, 89 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: some justice. I mean, you feel all these different things, 90 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, you know what 91 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: it is, right, We all know what it is. So 92 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: today's guest now follow me, because you might think, well, 93 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: how does she go to miss to that. He's a 94 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: leader in his community. He's someone who had an image 95 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: that many people felt was disturbing. The justice system tried 96 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: to take away his right to free speech. He had 97 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: a point there. He he was someone who had to 98 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: fight for free speech so that other artists who came 99 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: behind him could do what they do. He was someone 100 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: who was look, I mean, my mom probably wouldn't let 101 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: me go to a concert of his, but he lives 102 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: so that Megan the Stallion can live but he's also evolved. 103 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: That is the beauty of who human beings are. We 104 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: can't evolve. We can start off as one thing and 105 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: turn into something else. I say that because George Floyd 106 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: could have started off at it's one thing, and if 107 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: he had been allowed to live, he could have been 108 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: something else. We had Steven Jackson on the podcast. He 109 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: started off as one thing and he's now something else. 110 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: The humanity or lack thereof for people of color is 111 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: sad and it's frustrating, but they're still work to do. 112 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: And our next guest has done the work. I mean, 113 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: legit has done the work. I'm talking about Luther Campbell 114 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: and talking about Uncle Luke. Come now, are you like 115 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: how you go from that to that? Trust me, it 116 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: goes hand in hand. I thought about him for a second, 117 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: and as I talked to him, I didn't really get 118 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: into the Doodoo Brown of it all, the hoochie mama 119 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: of it all. But I did get into the fact 120 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: that he is a sixty year old man who has 121 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: made some mistakes. Admittedly no regrets, but some mistakes. He'll 122 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: tell you, who is now being such a politician in 123 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: his community and has used his platform and his notoriety 124 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: to help those who can't help themselves. This is the 125 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: beauty of who we are. We are allowed to evolve, 126 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 1: if we are allowed to live, we can be something else. 127 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: We could start one way, but we can be something else. 128 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: I saw the humanity and Uncle Luke. I saw who 129 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: he was and who he's been and who he now is. 130 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: And that's a beautiful naked quality. He's a leader and 131 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: it started in Miami. That's where it started. So sit back, listen, enjoy. 132 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: Uncle Luke has a lot to share. Enjoy the humanity 133 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: of it all. I read that you were before you're 134 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: a rapper, you were a cook. You had a lot 135 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: of different jobs, had a lot of different hustles. Talk 136 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: to me about growing up in Miami and all of 137 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: your hustles after you graduated high school. Man, I mean 138 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: growing up in Miami. Uh, you know when you have 139 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: jamaking and you have behavior. You know, most Jamakans at 140 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: a thousand jobs and Bohamians we don't have but one 141 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: job and we kind of slow down. So that's that's 142 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: what kind of put me in this situation of getting 143 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: all these different jobs. Yeah, I started out as a 144 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: pop watcher on Miami Beach because you know, that's where 145 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: I was at Mount Side of Hospital, That's where I 146 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: was going to high school at. And uh, eventually, you know, 147 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: when I went to high school over there, I was 148 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: you know, they gave me a little a lot of 149 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: art end jobs because you know, I kind of got 150 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: recruited to play football over there. Not to many African 151 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: Americans was going Miami Beach unless you were playing sports 152 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: at the local high school. And and so I went. 153 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: You know, I was a pop Washington before you know it. 154 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 1: My brother worked, my other brother, younger brother worked worked 155 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: as well. You know, the other ones eventually end up 156 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: with the college I didn't go. I did, stayed there 157 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 1: and I went from Pope Water to become a cook. 158 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: On Thursdays, I would cook fried chicken and it'll be 159 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: a line around the corner for my fried chicken. So 160 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: I guess that was my specialty. I was a DJ 161 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: at night and uh, cooking in the daytime. So then 162 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: I started bringing down artists, you know, pretty much brought 163 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: some of the first hip hop artists down to Miami. 164 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: You know, from Run dem C to T Laur to 165 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: Divine Sound, you name it. You know, I would bring 166 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: all the artists down to Miami, and uh, you know 167 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: that was my little side job. When you have all 168 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: of these talents, if you will, or maybe even jobs. 169 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: Was it for the money? Was it a hustle? Or 170 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: was music truly your love and you knew that's what 171 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: you excelled in? Yeah, music was my true love, you know, 172 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 1: I you know, my little spare time. I would intern 173 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: at the radio station down here nine and jams and 174 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: learn how how how that work? And uh, you know, 175 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: you know, while interning, I kind of learned, you know, 176 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: I learned how the record promotion pretty much works, because 177 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: back then, you know, you would you know, the DJ's 178 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: played the rectors. It wasn't really program and most of 179 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: the time the DJs was in the back with the 180 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: girls and I would be playing the records, and um, 181 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: I loved it. I loved it. I loved the you know, 182 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: I loved. What I loved most about music and being 183 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: a DJ was when we would get all of our 184 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: new records in the record pool and I was sitting 185 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: there and listen to every record before it hit the 186 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: radio and then pick hits and say this is gonna 187 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: be the record here. And I think that was the 188 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: gift that that God gave me and that kind of 189 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: helped me transition to being a music executive. Visually, I 190 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: see um a young kid, hungry, and I don't know 191 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: if you realize it, but it was fertile ground, like 192 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 1: Miami was all yours, Like there were so many things 193 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: that you were ultimately going to do. But talk to 194 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 1: me about the Miami scene when you were working as 195 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: a DJ and working at the record studio, at the 196 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: radio station. What was it? What did it look like 197 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: or feel like? Because I think it's changed a lot, 198 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: So what does what did it look like? If someone 199 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: wasn't born then or didn't know what it was then, man, 200 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: it was it was the South, you know, with a 201 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: lot of Caribbean in it. To be a great DJ, 202 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: you had to have a gift gap but with a microphone. 203 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: But at the same time, you had to have thirty 204 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: thirty four speakers. Uh, you had to have sixty four 205 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: speakers after the thirty four you all, I had to 206 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: have a whole bunch of speakers. And then during those times, again, 207 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: you know, the music was very up tempo. You would 208 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: play a lot of reggae, you would play a lot 209 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: of clips or music. We would do all these big 210 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 1: beach parties which we call the splashdown, which was our 211 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: summer parties. And so back then it was, you know, 212 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: you do the big beach party. I mean you were 213 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: you were the guy, and then before you know what, 214 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: you end up doing the skating rinks and all that. 215 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: And so Miami back then was it was what you 216 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: saw in the Scarface movie from the adult side of it, 217 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: but then you know, from the younger side of it, 218 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: it was I mean it was just fun. It was 219 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: just sun and fun and in all of the above. 220 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you live in a place of 221 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: paradise where you can go to the beach at any 222 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: given time, and at that time, we had our own 223 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: beach which was called Virginia Kid Beach. That was the 224 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: Black Beach. I mean, you go to the beach on 225 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: on on the weekends and your partied hard, and and 226 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: me going to beach high um going to the school 227 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: to Miami Beach, your two blocks away from the from 228 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: the beast. So it was a lot of party and 229 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. And you know back then, you know, 230 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: in the eighties and the nineties, it was what it was. 231 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you had the influx of Cuban refugees, you know, 232 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: coming from Cuba. So it was Miami was making a transition. 233 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: When did you know that you would become a major 234 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: figure historian, truly the guyfather if you will, of Miami, 235 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: Like when you can't say Miami and not think of 236 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: you in any aspect of entertainment. When when did that 237 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: become clear to you? What year was that? How I 238 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: was kind of raised. I think I was raised to 239 00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: eventually take on that role because I had older uncle 240 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: and my dad, and they would teach me about the struggle, uh, 241 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: and they were to always tell me, um, you know, 242 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: my mom would say, oh, you're named after Mark Luther King, 243 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: You're gonna do great things. Uh. So I kind of eventually, 244 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: you know, kind of took on uh them and the 245 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: teachings of these guys about you know, our history. We 246 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: ended up uh in a big riot, uh because the 247 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: police officer came start calling us all types of names, 248 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: and I stood up in the middle of the crowd 249 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: and said f you, Mr police, um before n w A. 250 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: And we ended up having a big riot. And so 251 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: I became the spokesperson at the park in our neighborhood 252 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: because I'm the guy that stood up to this big, 253 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: bad police officer. So I think, um, at that period 254 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: of time, I think that's when I kind of figured 255 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: that I would be the spokesperson for my community, not 256 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: knowing much of it. Uh. And then you know when 257 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: we started doing the music. What year was that when 258 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: you sit up and was like, fuck you police? Seven six? 259 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: This considered that for a moment. Yes, So in nineteen 260 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: seventy six, you've already took took on a civil rights 261 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: role if you will, leader, if you will, in this 262 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: community that you call home. Um, and then you eventually 263 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: transition into Uncle Luke and and have this group to 264 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: life crew. For my understanding, you had an ear from 265 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: music as you just described. You bring them over from California, 266 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong, and and you all start 267 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: to make music music before or was it around the 268 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: same time n w A was in trouble? Was it 269 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: before n w A started getting in trouble or was 270 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: it around the same time I was? We were we 271 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: were before in w A. Um, I mean what what 272 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,959 Speaker 1: how that happened again? And me, you know my whole thing, 273 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna be a big time uh 274 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: concert promoter. You know that was my thing, and being 275 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: the DJ. I wanted to be like Al Hayman and 276 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: Ricky Walker, guys who used to do the Fresh Festival 277 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: and all that. That was my whole thing. I I 278 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: did not want to be in the music business. And 279 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: like I said, I you know, in our dances and 280 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: the parties, we would create these these dances. You know, 281 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: that's what I lived. Gimmick was. And so I had 282 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: this one song called Ghetto Jump player, you know, the 283 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 1: country western song, and say everybody ghetto jump and then everybody, 284 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 1: the whole crowd jumps. And so I had a group 285 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: of guys say, look, do the song and just do 286 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,959 Speaker 1: me in free uh show because I gave the ideal, 287 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: and then they didn't. They reneed and so two life 288 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 1: prow coming down. Okay, I got a new different dance 289 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: called throw the d and the girls throw the p 290 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: and then do this song right here, and so, you know, 291 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: one thing led to the next, and then I was gokay, 292 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: we gotta get money off of this song. So I 293 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: took the song to some of the local local distributors 294 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: and they said, well, we can't pay you unless you 295 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: give us another song. And we did a song and 296 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: uh that's how I got stuck in the music business. 297 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: Way to say it. So, wait, are you telling me 298 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: you you weren't. You had no intentions of ever really 299 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: being in a group. And that Two Life Crew as 300 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: we know it, Uncle Luke, as we know it, Do 301 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: Do Brown as we know it all started off of 302 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: all right, let me just do this because I had 303 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: to do this. It wasn't intentionally set out that you 304 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: were willing to be a artist and start rapping. Not 305 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: at all, not at all. That's beautiful because sometimes when 306 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: we're just saying waters wet, sky is blue, we're we're 307 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 1: earth shattering. We're doing things that have never been done before. 308 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: It's revolutionary. One revolutionary moment if you look back in history, 309 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: because you know, we always like to put things in 310 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: tight little boxes. I believe there was a club that 311 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: you performed at and you got arrested. Clubunce Yeah, Hollywood, Florida, Hollywood, Florida. 312 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: At that period of time, you know, uh, you had 313 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: this Chef Navarro, which I think was the first reality 314 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: TV show superstar him and Haraldo would be running around 315 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: getting you're too young for that would be hard VERA. Yeah, 316 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: I'm not listen. I am a student. I know, go ahead. 317 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: So Horaldo Haraldo had this this police officer, uh, Nick Navarro, 318 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: and he would go and they would you know, during 319 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: that time, again Miami was cocaine, cowboy track, Heaven, cocaine 320 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: everywhere that's coming in on the ships and and Haraldo 321 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 1: would follow this schriff into bus, going into these areas 322 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: and busting these people. So he was a celebrity chef 323 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: on TV and uh. And then the celebrity chef say, okay, 324 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get this to live group of music off 325 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: the sheelf. So he eventually ended up. Um. He eventually 326 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: ended up, you know, going into a record store taking 327 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: the record off the showf UM at that time. Then 328 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: the judge Gonzalez eventually deemed the record I've seen And 329 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: so when he did that, I was like, I was like, 330 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: fuck it, we're gonna go do we I don't care, 331 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: this is a free speech. We're gonna go do a 332 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: show in Hollywood in his jurisdiction. That let him know 333 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: that we that we're about this life. And so you know, uh, 334 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 1: we went to the club and say, look, guys, if 335 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: you win it, I'm going to get arrested. And I 336 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: know the police gonna be out there. You can see 337 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: that you can tell a police. I mean, if you do, 338 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: if you grew up in the hood, you know, the 339 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: police comes in with baseball caps that don't even look 340 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,479 Speaker 1: like they fit with the jersey on their brand busting 341 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: and they got tight outfits on, like he all over, 342 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: he's the police, he's the police. And uh, when out 343 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: there song of the songs and they said, if you 344 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: sing the songs of a record that was deemed up singing, 345 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: then you're gonna go to jail. And I was like, Okay, 346 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: we're going to jail. In that moment, did you understand 347 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: how pivotal that was, how defining that was for the 348 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: future of hip hop. No, I wasn't thinking about I 349 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: was just you know, I was just more so thinking 350 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: about how how somebody is gonna tell me what to 351 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: do when I know it's right, you know, when I know, uh, 352 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: Andrew Dice Claire is doing his type of music and 353 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: he's not getting thrown in jail. And I know Madonna 354 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,719 Speaker 1: is on stage doing her her set and she's not 355 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: getting thrown in jail. And it became it became for 356 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: me whether or not a black man is able to 357 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 1: have free speech in this country. And so I said, 358 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna challenge. I'm going to go to jail. You know. 359 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: I remember back then, you know, some ladies from a 360 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: PTA and Alabama said, our kids are listening to this music, 361 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: you know, and and before you know what, uh typ 362 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: of Gore. Uh focus on the family, her little organization 363 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: al Gore's wife wife in the family Christian Association. Uh. 364 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: And all these are white organizations, uh that that had 365 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: a problem with the music. You know. I remember sitting 366 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: many nights by the pools saying to myself, what the 367 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 1: hell am I doing? Why am I into it? And 368 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: why am I? You know? And I will always revert 369 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: back to what my parents taught me about having them 370 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: invisible chains on it on you and either you're gonna 371 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: fight and staying for something, are you're gonna fall for anything? 372 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: And I just had to make up my mind at 373 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: that point I was gonna be a fighter. Do you 374 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: ever looked back your father you Uh, community leader, a coach, 375 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 1: all these different things. People very well respected. I believe 376 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: in the community. Once um considered infamous, respected and loved. 377 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: It always works that way. I like the infamous part. 378 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 1: I like being infamous. I like to be the guy 379 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: with the black cat. Sure, the bad guy. I'm the 380 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: bad guy. Why though, why being the bad guy? The 381 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: bad guy? The bad guy always get the pretty girls. Well, 382 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: if you look back, is there anything that you do differently? 383 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't change nothing, because I think if 384 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: I would have altered one thing, if I have said, 385 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: I'm not going to jail uh tonight, I'm scared. I'm 386 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: not taking on this fight. I'm not taking my money 387 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 1: in fighting for hip hop and free speech and parody 388 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: and whether it's protected by then we wouldn't have Saturday 389 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: Night Live making skits or anybody poking fund because of parody, 390 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: and we wouldn't have little Wayne and and Drake and 391 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: everybody else being able to say the same thing, say 392 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: the things that they're saying on the on the record, 393 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: because you know, the records were deemed up seeing and 394 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: it would have been cases law. And with that case law, um, 395 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: they would have been using it right down the day 396 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,959 Speaker 1: for every other hip hop artist that they wanted to attack. 397 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: So I felt like it was it was just my 398 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: business to do it. And it was again, it was 399 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: the perfect storm. I was a perfect person because you 400 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: do think you did things that people were not doing 401 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 1: on stage today, not not performing like Dray you mentioned 402 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: Drake and Little Wayne. They couldn't probably get away with 403 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: some of the things you did on stage. No, let 404 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: me tell you. Doing those times, I would look at 405 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: Rick James and Madonna, Oh lord, okay. I would hear 406 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: about the stories about Rick James and what he was 407 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: doing on stage, and I was like that, I'm gonna 408 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: do this it so so it became it became Rick 409 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: James ain't going out do me this week, and we 410 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: go and oh no, my daughter got the girls on 411 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: stage and there kissing each other. Well, we gonna have 412 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: a girl in those days naked with each other. Yea, 413 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: just one level above. Just keep topping what they doing. 414 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: You're doing that. I'm gonna go on more exact and 415 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 1: over the top of everybody. So the show became kind 416 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: of Wow, we got Uncle Luke in the house, but 417 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: we gotta pay some bills. We'll be back in just 418 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: a few moments. Every champion and carvery champions to be 419 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 1: a champion of champion and carry champion, and carry Chapiota champion, 420 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 1: and carry chappion and carry chappion and sports and then 421 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 1: the team making Naked. Hey, everybody, welcome back to the 422 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,719 Speaker 1: second half of this edition of Naked with Luther Campbell. 423 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: I gotta point this out, Um, what he did, whether 424 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: we understood it or whether we could appreciate it in 425 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 1: that moment, was life changing for so many artists, specifically rappers. 426 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: Um it birth as he mentioned the likes of a 427 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: Drake or a little Wayne or you know, my personal favorite, Megan, 428 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: she can do no wrong. Let me let me just 429 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:24,959 Speaker 1: tell you I'm a savage, classy, boogie, ratchet, sassy, moody, nasty, 430 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: a acting stupid. Was happening that is let me tell 431 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: you something, Come on, that's a whole mood. And even 432 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: to this day, there's always a white man in this 433 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: particular case, a congressman named Glenn Groffman from Wisconsin who 434 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: was on the Congress floor just this week saying, uh, 435 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: you know, I don't appreciate that wop that video. I mean, 436 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: it amazes me that white man still make rules to 437 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: control people and we allow it. That's the part you 438 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: have to think about. We are in the situation that 439 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: we are in right now because nine times out of ten, 440 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: a white man determines the rules that we live by 441 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 1: that don't fit or advocate for us. If you are 442 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: black or brown or marginalized. I applaud what Luke did. 443 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 1: Y'all may not like the way he went about it, 444 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: some may disagree with it, but in hindsight, which is 445 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: very cliche, this man was revolutionary and I'm not kidding, 446 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: and he doesn't get the respect that he deserves. And 447 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: that is probably because there may have been some incidents 448 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: in which women were doing things they should be doing 449 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: on stage. There may have been some subjectification, there may 450 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: have been some disrespect, there may have been some mistakes. 451 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: As I mentioned earlier. I don't want get into it 452 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: because I do want to focus on what he has 453 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: done and the president in which he has said. But 454 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: it's all full circle. It always takes a leader, It 455 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: takes somebody to be the first, and when you're the first, 456 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: it comes with bumps, bruises, cuts, all of that. None 457 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: of it's easy. None of it's easy. And so now 458 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: he finds himself no longer really involved in the rap scene. Right, 459 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: he's no longer music isn't at the forefront of his career. 460 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: He starts to transition. He now as someone who is 461 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: as I mentioned a street politician. He's in the community, 462 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: he's heavy, he has influence. He makes things happen. He 463 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: has helped children in Liberty City and other places in 464 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: Miami that have gone on to do great things. More 465 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: specifically in sports. He names them and we've seen it. 466 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: Luther Luther, not the singer, but Luther e Er as 467 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: a leader. That is his naked quality. I see a 468 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,239 Speaker 1: man before me that is very polished. I know that 469 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: there's more to you, right, I can't. I can't limit 470 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: you to just being Uncle Luke, to live Creuel, I can't. 471 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: I know that you have been able to and I 472 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: hate this word, but use your brand and make it 473 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: bigger and better. As you got away from music in 474 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: that capacity, where did you start to find your voice 475 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: and your other passion? I would say in sports. I 476 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: always wanted to figure out how can I give back 477 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: but give back with information. It was two things that 478 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: I did when I got my first big check. Was 479 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: about my mom a bigger house. And then the second 480 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,239 Speaker 1: thing was to start my youth program so no other 481 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: kid would have to give bus to Miami Beach like 482 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: I had to go to Miami Beach and come back 483 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: home and if we were House of tonight and uh, eventually, 484 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: you know, on this our thirty first year of my 485 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: youth program. Eventually I said, when my career kind of 486 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: die down, then that's what I want to do, you know. Uh, 487 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:17,959 Speaker 1: you know, I want to go out and coach, and 488 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,719 Speaker 1: I want to be more active in my program. And 489 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: with me being more active in my program, I get 490 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: to hear the stories about the struggles of the average family, 491 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: the kids, the struggles that the kids go through and 492 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: help fix try and fix some of those things. And 493 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: so when you're dealing with youth and you're dealing with 494 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: parents and families, now that becomes you're now have to 495 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: deal with government and how to help these families. Uh 496 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: succeeding So uh that just became my passion, you know. 497 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: I you know, and I always say that I'm not 498 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: gonna leave Miami. Uh. Like most people, they get successful 499 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: and they'll leave and go to Hollywood out, they'll go 500 00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: to New York. I had all those opportunities, Uh, but 501 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: I just felt like it was my responsibility to stay here, 502 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: to be able to have these kids, be able to 503 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: look up and see something different and be able to 504 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: help them. Uh, you know, inspire them to be able 505 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: to do the things that they want to do. And 506 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: so that that's you know, that's my whole thing now. 507 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: Just you know, it's been that way for years. It's 508 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: been that way from day one. And so I look 509 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: at the pit bulls and all that when I discovered them, 510 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: and and the trick dadd these other world and seeing 511 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: that these guys were hustling drugs on the streets and 512 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: to be able to just give them a hug and say, 513 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: somebody loves you and you have a talent. And then 514 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: to be able to be the proud uncle to see 515 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: how successful they are in business as well as their career. 516 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: And uh, other kids, whether who came through our program, 517 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: whether it's the middle linebacker for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 518 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: Duke Johnson, Aunte Friedman and all these Chad Johnson, who 519 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: was a little kid that came out of our program. 520 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: He was the first player kind of helped me. Uh, 521 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: he was the one the reason why I kind of 522 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: started the program, uh, because they had nowhere to play. 523 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: And so when I look at all these success stories 524 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: that I'm like, this is my passion. And then I 525 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: get into politics. I get into politics and basically, if 526 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: I don't endorse you in Miami, uh, you don't win 527 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: as a political candidate. So that allows me to didn't 528 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: do more things for people in the community and our community. 529 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: What a beautiful evolution. I mean it is if you 530 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:57,479 Speaker 1: think about the chef, DJ, radio, guy, club promoter, rapper 531 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: accidentally father in the midst of all of this, right, 532 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: and in the midst of all of that, Let's not 533 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: forget that because that also changes how you approach life. 534 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: Turned and you've always been the I dubbed you just 535 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: now the civil rights leader in your community. Then you 536 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 1: found your passion and helping kids and not just kids, 537 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: some real no brainers, some kids that went on to 538 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: do some major things. Chad major things, great guy. Work 539 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: with him still to this day. You mentioned about the 540 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: Freeman like the list is amazing. So I think the 541 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: beauty of your story and watching you evolve is that 542 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: the community, more specifically the black community gives you that 543 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: that grace and mercy to do. So we know that 544 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: you can be many things. You know, during many different 545 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:55,399 Speaker 1: times in your life. When do you sit and think 546 00:34:55,560 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: about that and how outside looking at I'm gold buy back. 547 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 1: What do you sit and think about that and think, wow, 548 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: this is a big deal. I don't. I just I 549 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:13,280 Speaker 1: really do. It's always something different, you know, there's always 550 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: another part of my community that needs fixing. Is another street, 551 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: that's another politician that that is not doing the right thing, 552 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: that we have to then mobilize people to get another politician. 553 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 1: It's always something to do, So I really you know, 554 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: it's a big scope as the what you want to see, 555 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: uh in your community. You know, it's it's it's but 556 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: it's always something that's gentrification is uh the way African 557 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: Americans getting treated. You know, it's it's just it's always something. 558 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: So I'm always uh working for the for the greater good, uh, 559 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: for for my people in the community. So, you know, 560 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: but I love it. I'm passionate about it. And you know, 561 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: I have the risk fact though the you know, the 562 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: mayor and senators and you know and and uh you 563 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 1: know congressmen and congresswomen and all that I have their 564 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 1: respect and what I call you know, I know over 565 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,879 Speaker 1: tendency of getting things done. And it's not for me, 566 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: is for for the for the silent majority of the voices. 567 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 1: Talk to me about the management company, Oh the management 568 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 1: you were like, wait, what are we doing? Where she going? 569 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: What are we talking about? But if we told you 570 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: about the management company, I didn't tell nobody about it. Yes, 571 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: that is breaking news. Uh. You know, I look at 572 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: you know, you know when when I was when me 573 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,800 Speaker 1: and the wife was together, Uh, we worked with these 574 00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 1: uh the football players that came out of the program, 575 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, did great with these young men. Uh. 576 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: And I and and the reason why, you know, I 577 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,959 Speaker 1: kinda got into it and encouraged her to get into 578 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 1: it because I just saw so many kids in our 579 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: program coming back home, you know, broke, you know. Uh. 580 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 1: And then you read the books and you hit the stories, 581 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 1: and you know, in Miami being a rich area for 582 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: top NFL talent as well as baseball, and you see 583 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: these kids, you don't leave and they go with million dollars, 584 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: come back millions of dollars, and they come back and 585 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,839 Speaker 1: they asked for a job on the park. Uh. So 586 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons why I got into And 587 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 1: I said I didn't. I wasn't gonna let Uh. I 588 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna let I wasn't gonna w I'm getting a 589 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: divorce from with my wife. I wasn't gonna divorce myself 590 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 1: from helping these kids when they get to that point, 591 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: because I think, uh, what we have to offer. And 592 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: then now these young men are now getting ready to 593 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:05,840 Speaker 1: get paid in college, you know, Um, and I have 594 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: some five star football players on my team, and and 595 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: they're getting big money, hundreds of thousand dollars throw at 596 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: them right now. And so if I I know that 597 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: a kid, uh NFL player and when I forget the 598 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:26,280 Speaker 1: name of the book, but most NFL players, they don't 599 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 1: spend the money. It's the family that spends the money 600 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,439 Speaker 1: and eventually run them broke. And so when you're looking 601 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 1: at these kids that are coming from these blighted neighborhoods 602 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 1: now getting a hundred thousand dollars and fifty thousand dollars, 603 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars more money than they've ever seen in 604 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 1: their life, which they're gonna start getting this year, that's 605 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: gonna take a toll on them because you got the 606 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: adults uh that can't function when they left college. Uh, 607 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: and they're taking a beaten and weighing down on their families. 608 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: So I said to myself, there's two reasons why I 609 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: want to art just uh sports management company to be 610 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: able to help mentor them and help their families understand that, uh, 611 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: you know, this is not this is not the don't 612 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: just don't tear them down because they're getting this this 613 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: little bit of money. It's a big picture. Uh. And 614 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 1: then at the same time, I looked at how African 615 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: American coaches. African American coaches are are not represented. You know, 616 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 1: I think, uh, you know, and I have a lot 617 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: of friends that are coaches, and I said a lot 618 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,760 Speaker 1: of tough things, and I get a lot of calls 619 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: from a lot of black coaches, thank you for standing 620 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: up for us. But then I look at them, not 621 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: every year we have this conversation why black coaches are 622 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,399 Speaker 1: not getting a job at this NFL team, and why 623 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 1: black coaches are not getting a job at this opportunity 624 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 1: at this UH university. And then I look at the 625 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: grand scheme of things and I say, okay, c as 626 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 1: representing everybody and give me sex and who was a 627 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 1: good friend of mine is representing most of these guys, 628 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 1: from the Nick Sabans to everybody else. And then you 629 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: have a little another guy on the side representing the 630 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: African American coaches, which is not pushing them to be 631 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: able to putting them in a position to be able 632 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: to get those big jobs. So I think a lot 633 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: of African American coaches are not being fully represented to 634 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 1: be able to get these jobs. They need an uh 635 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 1: another person you know, like myself to be able to 636 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 1: go and speak on their behalf and compete with Jimmy 637 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: on helping these guys get the opportunity that they deserved 638 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: because it shouldn't be just. Which is a great thing, 639 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: you know, And right now, you know, we're seeing the 640 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: you know, the professional players, the Hall of Famers are 641 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 1: now going to HBCUs. Which is? Which is? Which is? 642 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: I think that's great, I think I think, I mean, 643 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: you know, I talked to Air Reid and I'm like, yeah, 644 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 1: you need to do it. You don't that why go 645 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 1: to of these schools, especially even for our kids. But 646 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 1: as a coach, why go to these schools when they 647 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,320 Speaker 1: don't respect you, and they don't give you the same money, 648 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: and they don't treat you the same way, and they'll 649 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,919 Speaker 1: fire you in a minute on some bull and they'll 650 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: let these other crooks sit there all day. And I 651 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,240 Speaker 1: don't think that we should be giving them our talent 652 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 1: for free anymore, Like they iced not colder. And if 653 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 1: we get together as a community and understand that it 654 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: is game changing, they will have to come to us. 655 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: It is game it is game changing, and like, you know, 656 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 1: I look at it as this would be a great 657 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: time to go into representing coaches. Uh you know, I 658 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: already worked with a few coaches and and to push 659 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: these guys towards historical black colleges as well as the 660 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: other colleges. They're giving them an opportunity and having the 661 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: conversations with the you know, I've had a couple of 662 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: conversations with the conferences and saying they look, you need 663 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 1: to I mean tighten up. You know, at some point 664 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to. You're gonna have to fight the 665 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: powers that be, which is the networks, to be able 666 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: to get yourself put in a situation where you can 667 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 1: get a big multi media out of contract so you 668 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: can spread that money within the conference, or you can 669 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,839 Speaker 1: be able to compete with these uh white colleges. What's 670 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: the name of the company. It's called Luke Sports. I 671 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 1: think I know what your naked quality is from the 672 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 1: outside looking in. But when you are your most vulnerable, 673 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 1: when you take off your hat when you're not coaching, 674 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 1: when you're not talking to kids, when you're not helping. 675 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 1: You're not a street politician and you're not two Live 676 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 1: Crew or Uncle Luke, father whatever you know, father Dad? 677 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: You who are you when you're your most vulnerable? Who 678 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 1: gets to see that? Like when you drop the tears? 679 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like when you like, sh 680 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:49,359 Speaker 1: it hurts, I'm tired. I felt, I feel, I don't 681 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 1: feel appreciated. And black men especially, you don't like to 682 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 1: do that. But y'all do it with somebody. I don't 683 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:55,800 Speaker 1: know who it is, but you do it with somebody. 684 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 1: And what does that look like? Everything that I'm surrounded 685 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 1: is with my son, And I think because it's just 686 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:09,839 Speaker 1: me and him when he's over here with me. Uh, 687 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm dead to him. That's that's you know, 688 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 1: that's that's uh. I guess that's probably what defines me. 689 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 1: Uh and uh at the end of the day, it's 690 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 1: me and him. You know, that's what I live for. 691 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,879 Speaker 1: I mean, I worked every day for him. Uh, And 692 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:42,800 Speaker 1: that is that's just that's just He's just my entire life. Oh, 693 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 1: I was sweet. I talked about this the evolution of 694 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,719 Speaker 1: Luther Campbell is really something special to watch. I mean, 695 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 1: at least for me in terms of the history of 696 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,879 Speaker 1: it all. He mentioned he was named after Martin Luther 697 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,320 Speaker 1: King Jr. Now nobody would have thought that while it 698 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 1: was Doo Doo Browning now right, I want to rock 699 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 1: Doo doo brow What Marley D. King now his mother knew? 700 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 1: The mom is always be known. But it is a 701 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 1: beautiful thing. I'll jokes aside. It is a beautiful thing 702 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 1: to watch someone have a message, have a purpose for 703 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:27,360 Speaker 1: their message, and it comes full circle. He talks of 704 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,919 Speaker 1: a world in which he knew he was not being 705 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 1: treated fairly, and it seemed very self specific, but it 706 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 1: goes such a long way and it means so much 707 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: for so many other artists. He's still to this day, 708 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:48,320 Speaker 1: as he announced exclusively here his new management company, Luke Sports, 709 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 1: is doing what he does best. That's helping those being 710 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,520 Speaker 1: a father figure, being a leader. He's always done it. 711 00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 1: The goal with Luke Sports is to make sure these 712 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 1: black and brown coaches are being treated justice, fairly, being 713 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:09,399 Speaker 1: compensated just as well as these other coaches are being 714 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 1: treated that don't look like us. To me, that's huge 715 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 1: working together, making sure that we build together as a community, 716 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 1: make money together as a community, have our freedom together 717 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: as a community. I appreciate that about him. I respect 718 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 1: the evolution and the revolution that was televised and we 719 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,879 Speaker 1: watched it. Luther Campbell truly is one of a kind. 720 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:43,799 Speaker 1: And although people may only remember him as a member 721 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 1: of two live crew, strip clubs, girls, those things, there's 722 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:53,359 Speaker 1: so much more the humanity people. If this week has 723 00:45:53,400 --> 00:46:00,800 Speaker 1: not taught us anything, it is too really truly find 724 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,359 Speaker 1: the likeness in who we are. Because once we do that, 725 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:08,319 Speaker 1: once we can identify someone's qualities and can relate to 726 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,280 Speaker 1: who they are as a human being, we have empathy 727 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 1: for them. We don't sit on their necks for nine 728 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,799 Speaker 1: minutes at twenty nine seconds, we don't shoot them in 729 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:33,359 Speaker 1: the chest four times. They're human to us. And that's 730 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,359 Speaker 1: the problem. The problem in the world that we live 731 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 1: in is that one a lot of black and brown people, 732 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:46,799 Speaker 1: marginalized folks, are not allowed to evolve and grow and 733 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,279 Speaker 1: be more. They can only be seen as one way, 734 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,919 Speaker 1: based on the community they live in, based on how 735 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,959 Speaker 1: they walk or talk. They can only be that one thing, 736 00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:04,760 Speaker 1: and that just isn't fair. It has been a rough time. 737 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:06,920 Speaker 1: I'm not even putting a period on it. It's been 738 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 1: a tough week, it's been a tough month, has been 739 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 1: a tough one. But it has been rough period. It's 740 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,320 Speaker 1: just been it's just been hard. It's just that simple, 741 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:23,800 Speaker 1: and it's exhausting. But we gotta fight. We gotta be leaders. 742 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,279 Speaker 1: We don't have to go to the Supreme Court and 743 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 1: demand our free speech, but we do have to be 744 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 1: leaders in our community. We have to be leaders in 745 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:37,239 Speaker 1: our homes. We have to lead by example, whatever that 746 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,719 Speaker 1: looks like for you. That's what we gotta do. And 747 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,920 Speaker 1: then we also have to have enough grace and mercy 748 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 1: to let ourselves and others evolve. Congratulations to Luther Campbell 749 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:56,319 Speaker 1: and its new sports endeavor, Luke Sports. I think it's 750 00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 1: beautiful and I love the idea and I support it. 751 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 1: And then I want to take a moment to tell 752 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:07,239 Speaker 1: you all to be kind to yourselves, take care of 753 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:12,360 Speaker 1: your mental because she is real out here. Thank you 754 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:54,359 Speaker 1: all for listening back again next week one time. Side note, 755 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna wrap the podcast on this. This will be funny. 756 00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,759 Speaker 1: Her birthday was when we were to the at ESPN, 757 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 1: but maybe it was twenty sixteen or seventeen, and we 758 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,840 Speaker 1: were in Miami for the weekend and she was like, 759 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,720 Speaker 1: Luke gonna take us to the strip club. You're ready 760 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,080 Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm ready. What happened? And then 761 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 1: I think, you know, we was old. We went to 762 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 1: bed at three. You was like, I just get out 763 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 1: the house at three? What you talking about? It was 764 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:22,719 Speaker 1: like three am, I'll go, I'm sleep you to two 765 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:27,320 Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning. We I missed you then, unfortunately, 766 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 1: but I do. I do remember thinking, Wow, what an 767 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:31,400 Speaker 1: epic night that would have been if I would have 768 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 1: got at the house. But it was three and mag 769 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:33,719 Speaker 1: to shut it down.