WEBVTT - The Killing Joke

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<v Speaker 1>It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind?

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<v Speaker 1>From how Stuff Works dot Com? Hey, you welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff to Blow your Mind. My name is Robert Lamb

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm Julie Douglas. Julie, did you ever watch Monty

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<v Speaker 1>Python Growing Up? Money Python's Flying Surfaced? Yes? How much?

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<v Speaker 1>How much? Like in what quantities? Um? Well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say here and there. It probably wasn't until

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<v Speaker 1>I was more of a teenager that I really sort

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<v Speaker 1>of dabbled in it yourself strict diet I'm imagining for

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<v Speaker 1>a short period of time, definitely like junior High. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a period in there where they were showing it

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<v Speaker 1>regularly on on the Comedy Network whatever it was called

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, and and I was this totally new

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<v Speaker 1>thing to me, so I just ate it up. And

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<v Speaker 1>then then of course me and my friends got into

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<v Speaker 1>Money Python, the Holy Grail, Life of Brian, all that,

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<v Speaker 1>and just it consumed us for a while and and

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<v Speaker 1>definitely had a big impact on my sense of human

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<v Speaker 1>I think most people of my age and the earlier

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<v Speaker 1>generation as well. But but there's something about being it

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<v Speaker 1>just the right age, just at the right time when

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<v Speaker 1>all of it was on TV, and you just you

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't help it absorb it. Now, did you ever go

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<v Speaker 1>lowbrow and put a little Benny Hill in there? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if Benny Hill was on and you're at

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<v Speaker 1>that age where aspects of Benny Hill's show definitely appeal

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<v Speaker 1>to young male minds. But and it's ultimately I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a little body but it was so silly,

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<v Speaker 1>like all those chase scenes they do kind of suck

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<v Speaker 1>you in a bit. But I don't I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>I guess they were showing that on Comedy Central as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But today we are talking particularly about one sketch, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna roll out the science from this one sketch

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, you can probably guess what it's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna play a quick clip from it here, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll talk about it. This man is Ernest Scribbler,

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<v Speaker 1>writer of jokes. In a few moments he will have

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<v Speaker 1>written the funniest joe in the world, and as a consequence,

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<v Speaker 1>he will die laughing. Kay, all right, we're talking, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>about the joke that kills people, the killer joke, the

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<v Speaker 1>joke that in this sketch is ultimately weaponized. Um they

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<v Speaker 1>end up having it. Anyone who hears it laughs himself

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<v Speaker 1>to death, and so they have to get people to

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<v Speaker 1>translate it into German. This is during World War two.

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<v Speaker 1>Get separate people to translate segments of the joke because

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<v Speaker 1>no one can read the whole thing at once or

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<v Speaker 1>they'll die. But there too, there wasn't one instance in

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<v Speaker 1>this story that they had two words that were translated. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they were hospital as yes. So you have to be

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<v Speaker 1>careful because because the joke and its entirety will kill you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so funny, and even just a little segment, like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe just the punch line is enough to do unit.

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<v Speaker 1>So they had to send in. They had to break

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<v Speaker 1>it up into different words, have translators translate each word,

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<v Speaker 1>and then reassemble it in German. And it was in

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<v Speaker 1>utilized on the front lines in World War two. They

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<v Speaker 1>would have somebody who did not understand German read the

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<v Speaker 1>joke aloud, and then any German imagtryment that happened to

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<v Speaker 1>hear it would just die laughing right there. So go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and go ahead and read it for us. And

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<v Speaker 1>just a quick warning if you speak German watch out,

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<v Speaker 1>this might have harmful effects. Yeah, just I mean, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>even just turn it off for a moment. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a joke. Joke. Warfare, Vinish does, Nontrika Baron does,

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<v Speaker 1>all the deflippers bolt. See. Now I couldn't understand it,

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<v Speaker 1>or I would have I would have died. Now. I

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<v Speaker 1>laughed at that just because I enjoyed the German nous

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<v Speaker 1>of it, and your and your accent was was was excellent. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>But of course anyone who actually speaks German they recognize

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<v Speaker 1>that those are not all real German words. This is

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately nonsense and gibberish. Because they couldn't. They didn't actually

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<v Speaker 1>have a joke at the center of this. The content

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<v Speaker 1>of the joke is a mcguffin. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>fiction that they create around it, just saying that if

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<v Speaker 1>you hear this joke, if you understand it, it kills

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<v Speaker 1>you dead. But one can't help. But wonder, is it

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<v Speaker 1>possible to have a joke that's so funny that it

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<v Speaker 1>kills people? Right, It's possible. It's possible. But of course

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<v Speaker 1>that would be uh sort of sort of complicated underlying

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<v Speaker 1>conditions here right now, First of all, you would have

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<v Speaker 1>to have an exceedingly funny joke, like the funniest joke possible,

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<v Speaker 1>and how would we possibly find that. Well, in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand two, some researchers actually looked into this and uh.

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<v Speaker 1>It took place at the University of Herefordshire, psychology professor

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<v Speaker 1>Richard Wiseman started a program called laugh app. The objective

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<v Speaker 1>find the funniest joke across all cultures, regions, demographics, countries,

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<v Speaker 1>the funniest joke that then can be unleashed, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>on on the world for global domination. Well maybe not

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<v Speaker 1>the global domination part, but he was interested in what

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<v Speaker 1>makes people tick and certainly what how senses of humor

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<v Speaker 1>vary among different groups as well. So they set up

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<v Speaker 1>a website and they spent a year collecting jokes. People

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<v Speaker 1>would share their favorite jokes, they're the funniest joke they

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<v Speaker 1>knew on this website. Other people would come in and

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<v Speaker 1>rate the jokes and uh and so over time the

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<v Speaker 1>website received forty thousand jokes and one point five million

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<v Speaker 1>ratings from all over. They got some international press exposures,

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<v Speaker 1>so lots of people were chiming in. So of the

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<v Speaker 1>forty thousand jokes submitted. The winner was won by a

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<v Speaker 1>guy mean the name of Girpele Gosseil, which which right there,

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<v Speaker 1>a thirty one year old psychiatrist from Manchester, England, and

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<v Speaker 1>the joke went something like this. Two hunters are out

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<v Speaker 1>in the woods when one of them collapses. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>seem to be breathing and his eyes are glazed. The

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<v Speaker 1>other guy whip side his phone and calls the emergency services.

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<v Speaker 1>He guess, my friend is dead. What can I do?

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<v Speaker 1>The operator says, calm down, I can help. First, let's

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<v Speaker 1>make sure he's dead. There's a silence, then a gunshot

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<v Speaker 1>is heard back on the phone. The guy says, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now what now you see I don't know. That wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>I That wasn't my favorite. I have to say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't. And I think that's maybe something worth noting

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<v Speaker 1>here is that you have such varied senses of humor

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<v Speaker 1>that if you find something that everyone agrees on, or

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<v Speaker 1>the vast majority of people agree on, it's not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be good. It's like it's like hotel food. The hotel

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<v Speaker 1>food or food that's catered at a hotel event, it

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<v Speaker 1>has to be palpable by various um senses of taste,

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<v Speaker 1>various aversions to spices. It has to meet all these

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<v Speaker 1>different dietary requirements. So when you check everything off the list,

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<v Speaker 1>you can end up with some pretty bland fair right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're right, this is across all cultures. This was

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<v Speaker 1>the winning choke. But I did think it was interesting

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<v Speaker 1>that there are a different cultural tasting in humor. And

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<v Speaker 1>according to the study, people from the Republic of Ireland,

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<v Speaker 1>the UK, Australia and New Zealand I'll express a strong

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<v Speaker 1>preference for jokes involving word play, which sort of makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you if you think, especially when I

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<v Speaker 1>think about Irish humor. Um, so here you want to

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<v Speaker 1>read that one, I'm gonna say, here's an example from

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<v Speaker 1>that study. Uh that that placed this doctor. I've got

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<v Speaker 1>a strawberry stuck up my bum. Doctor says I've got

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<v Speaker 1>some cream for that. Now, that one when I when

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<v Speaker 1>I read it and heard it again, that one made

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<v Speaker 1>me laugh a little more. I have to say, well

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<v Speaker 1>and stuck up my bomb. Right, There's just it's funny stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a good material. Yeah. So the study figuring out

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<v Speaker 1>some interesting things about jokes in general, Like they found

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<v Speaker 1>that the perfect length of the joke is around a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred words. That the best animal to place uh in

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<v Speaker 1>a in a person's role, The best anthroomorphized animal to

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<v Speaker 1>feature in a joke is the duck, which which I

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<v Speaker 1>think is perfect. There's always the joke you can make

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<v Speaker 1>lots of There's lots of word play to be made

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<v Speaker 1>with the ducks bill, you know, putting it on the

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<v Speaker 1>ducks bill, and and ducks are always walking into bars,

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<v Speaker 1>you know how. Um, And they found that this was

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to that Germans appreciate a wide variety of humor. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and immediately thought, oh, well, I remember when Seinfeld played

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<v Speaker 1>in Germany and there was all of this kerfuffle because um,

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<v Speaker 1>it was poled. It just didn't do that well that

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<v Speaker 1>the TV series Seinfeld in Germany. But so I immediately thought, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, let me do just a sweeping generalization.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps they don't have the sense of humor that other

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<v Speaker 1>people do. But it turns out that they actually have

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<v Speaker 1>a more nuanced and complex sense of humor. Well that's

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<v Speaker 1>what they say. And Okay. On one hand, there's like

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<v Speaker 1>the stereotypical German that we all sort of get decided

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<v Speaker 1>a German is a very serious, regimented person, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they're not that inclined to humor, despite the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>they do have all puppet hip hop acts in Berlin.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I was there briefly on like a school

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<v Speaker 1>trip back in high school, I I distinctly remember turning

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<v Speaker 1>on the German TV and even then I was I

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<v Speaker 1>was expecting some you know, sort of Sprockets esque kraft Work,

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<v Speaker 1>e German nous, And there was a comedy on, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>It was on in the lobby of this this hotel,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was some. It was really Binny Hill esque

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<v Speaker 1>and reminiscent of the the really outlandish humor that you'll

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<v Speaker 1>see on various Spanish television um sides. So so that

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<v Speaker 1>alone let me know that, yes there's some they're not

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<v Speaker 1>all German humors necessarily going to be that complex, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And I would like to study that out. They like

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<v Speaker 1>a wide variety of things, so stereotypes are a little elusive,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess in figuring all of that out. Although to

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<v Speaker 1>continue to talk about stereotypes, I should mention that in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of cultural taste, Americans and Canadians tend to prefer

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<v Speaker 1>jokes that are trade on the theme of superiority, either

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sort of making fun of it or elevating it. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's an example. A Texans says where are you from?

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<v Speaker 1>And Harvard grad says, I come from a place where

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<v Speaker 1>we do not end our sentences with prepositions. And then

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<v Speaker 1>the Texans says, okay, where are you from? Jackass? And actually,

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<v Speaker 1>my I've heard my father in law tell this before

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of version of it, so I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was interesting. And then there's a computer generated joke that

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<v Speaker 1>actually made the cut here because the researchers wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>insert some computer generated jokes to see how they would do,

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<v Speaker 1>and they put five of the jokes in there. Four

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<v Speaker 1>of them fell flat, but one of them was successful.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know that one? Oh? Yes, yes, we have

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<v Speaker 1>it right here. What kind of murderer has moral fiber?

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<v Speaker 1>A serial killer? I love it. I gotta tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that says about my sense of humor,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's funny. Well, that gag scored higher than one

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<v Speaker 1>third of all human jokes, so I guess it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Peter world that robots are the kind of stand

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<v Speaker 1>up comedians. They get up there, they're gonna they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>throw stuff out there. There's just gonna fail, but when

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<v Speaker 1>they hit it, you know it's going to be well.

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<v Speaker 1>That kind of also harkens back to our episode on

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<v Speaker 1>computers and creativity and their ability to actually make something

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<v Speaker 1>that is novel. But anyway, there you go, here's the

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<v Speaker 1>research about the funniest joke in the world. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously no one was going to die from laughing, but this,

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<v Speaker 1>this term we even have dying of laughter is something

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<v Speaker 1>that has been with us for centuries, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>actually place it back in um in Taming of the

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<v Speaker 1>Shrew around six when Shakespeare wrote went they not quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>I should die with laughing, which really sort of means

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<v Speaker 1>if they hadn't left soon, I would have died laughing.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's been around for a while, this idea that

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<v Speaker 1>we could laugh so hard that we could expire from it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm going to run through a few more examples

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<v Speaker 1>of of supposed in some cases, in some more verified

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<v Speaker 1>cases of people who've actually died quote unquote of laughter.

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<v Speaker 1>But real quick, we should we should touch base on

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<v Speaker 1>just just a reminder about laughter and physiology. We recently

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<v Speaker 1>did an episode titled what did we call? That episode?

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<v Speaker 1>The healing power of laughter. That's what it was. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>So we we talked about how a good hearty laugh

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<v Speaker 1>can help you out. It can heal you, it can

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<v Speaker 1>it gets your your heart beating. It's a full body experience.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean basically when we laugh, we have changes occurring

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<v Speaker 1>and all different parts of the body, even the arms,

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<v Speaker 1>the legs, obviously, the trunk, muscles. I mean we have

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<v Speaker 1>to term bell you laugh for a reason because you're

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<v Speaker 1>laughing so hard. You're just you're shaking like a bowl

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<v Speaker 1>full of jelly. Right. Respiratory system is up is upset um.

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<v Speaker 1>In some cases you're actually crying um. You're you may

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<v Speaker 1>be struggling for breath. Your face becomes moist and red.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you you you're having a full body episode.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you did not know what laughter is, if

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<v Speaker 1>you've grown up in a mystical land where there was

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<v Speaker 1>no humor and you saw all somebody laughing, you might

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<v Speaker 1>think it was some sort of a seizure. It's true.

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<v Speaker 1>And actually the speaking of seizure, I mean just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of go over how it's working in your brain. Your

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<v Speaker 1>brain's pre mort or cortical region is activated. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is important because this is the part of the brain

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<v Speaker 1>that stands up ready to react to sound. Then the

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<v Speaker 1>left side of your cerebral cortex interprets the content and

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<v Speaker 1>the structure of the piece of humor, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>right side of the cortex performs the analysis, enabling you

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<v Speaker 1>to get the joke. And then an electrical wave pulses

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<v Speaker 1>through your cerebral cortex about four tenths of a second later,

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<v Speaker 1>and you laugh if the wave takes a negative charge.

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<v Speaker 1>So already right there, you can see that there's a

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<v Speaker 1>very complex set of motions going on in your brain

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<v Speaker 1>and your body. And if you were to tell me, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>the government's working on a weapon that does just this

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<v Speaker 1>list of things to the human body, I'd be like, WHOA,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even sure if that's a non lethal weapon

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds potentially dangerous and a little that might be

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<v Speaker 1>outlawed by some sort of international convention, but it can

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<v Speaker 1>conceivably just be a real well told joke. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>true because we know that laughing sometimes will lead to

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<v Speaker 1>blacking out, and this is usually related to overbreathing, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's usually not too dangerous, but there are times when

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<v Speaker 1>you've got underlying conditions where it could actually become quite dangerous. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll we'll get into that in a minute. But first,

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<v Speaker 1>people who have died or are said to have died

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<v Speaker 1>by laughter. I'm not going to run through all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>You can easily find a list of these accounts online,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm gonna touch on a few of them here.

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<v Speaker 1>One important one, at least in the lore of dying

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<v Speaker 1>by laughter is Chrysippus. Chrystippus was amongst the most influential

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<v Speaker 1>philosophers of the Hellenistic period, and it had a huge

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<v Speaker 1>role on the development of stoicism, which is excellent because

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<v Speaker 1>you used tend to think of a stoic individual is

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily being a person who's gonna engage in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of laughter, much less a lethal dosage of laughter,

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<v Speaker 1>right is. It turns out there are two different stories

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<v Speaker 1>about it. How he died, and he died at the

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<v Speaker 1>age of seventy three, and and that was in two

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<v Speaker 1>two and six BC. Okay, that's a pretty advanced age

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<v Speaker 1>at that time. Yeah, of course, you know he's living.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like a philosopher. To be a specialized philosopher in

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<v Speaker 1>any age, it kind of implies that maybe you have

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not not to not philosophers, but you're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get crushed by a falling rock. Generally, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be doing a lot of hard labors where you're Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, one story is that Christmas just drank a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of wine at a feast, grew dizzy and died. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's possible. But then there's another story that after an ass,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a donkey, had eaten up his figs, he

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<v Speaker 1>cried out to an old woman, Now give the ass

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<v Speaker 1>a drink of pure wine to wash down the figs,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he laughed so heartily that he died. So um,

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<v Speaker 1>I just love that. From this period, it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>people are getting their pets in the farm animals drunk

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. Yes, you're thinking, of course of our friend,

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<v Speaker 1>uh Tico, Yeah, well actually who was later on? It's

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<v Speaker 1>still I kind of think that this is an absence

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<v Speaker 1>of any parlor games. You go ahead and get the

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<v Speaker 1>animal off the farm and start having it chugged something. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it comes back to the duck, right. The whole reason

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<v Speaker 1>they asked the question, what's the most hilarious animal to

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<v Speaker 1>have doing human things and engaging in a human joke.

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<v Speaker 1>The duck is certainly the funniest, but there are other

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<v Speaker 1>funny creatures to how to do human things, and one

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<v Speaker 1>of them is the donkey. A donkey doing anything non

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<v Speaker 1>donkey is pretty hilarious. Likewise, the monkey, uh Like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting if you look, go to a museum. Go to

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<v Speaker 1>a big museum next time, be on the lookout for

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<v Speaker 1>this particular motif, a monkey riding a horse. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>generated laughter since time out of mind, since we've actually

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<v Speaker 1>ridden horses. Like, the idea that a monkey could do

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<v Speaker 1>it is just somehow instantly hilarious. You can read into

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<v Speaker 1>that way you will. Perhaps it's the the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>a monkey riding a horses is threatening. What if they

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<v Speaker 1>ride they'll be like Planet of the Apes, right, Or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's just the fact that we look down on

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<v Speaker 1>the monkey as something less than us, and the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that the monkey could do what we do is that

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<v Speaker 1>laughter zone for us. Well, it's like whenever I want

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<v Speaker 1>to make my daughter laugh, I'll just say like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think that car ahead of us? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that a cat's driving it? And then she'll start

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<v Speaker 1>laughing outside But it's wearing a bow tie, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just because of up to Annie even more. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the layers of ridiculousness, goats, cats, poppy, I mean, all

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<v Speaker 1>fair game for for laughter by by far anyway. So Chrysippus,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows there are two stories there. Certainly if he

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<v Speaker 1>was seventy three, I could imagine it's possible that he

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<v Speaker 1>died by laughter. It's you might have had, you know, again,

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<v Speaker 1>an underlying heart condition. There another guy of note from

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<v Speaker 1>the old world, well not as old world. We have

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<v Speaker 1>a man by the name of Martin of Aragon. Martin

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<v Speaker 1>was the King of Aragon, Valencia, Sardinia, Corsica and Count

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<v Speaker 1>of Barcelona from and king of Sicily from fourteen o nine,

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<v Speaker 1>and he died in fourteen ten. Okay, so what happened here?

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<v Speaker 1>The accounts say that he died due to a kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a mixture of serious indigestion and laughter. Now he

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<v Speaker 1>was only fifty six. And I think one possibility here

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<v Speaker 1>is that I was reading a little bit about heart attacks.

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<v Speaker 1>And you do have this situation where someone someone has only, say,

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<v Speaker 1>seen a heart attack on television. What do they think

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<v Speaker 1>of They think of Fred Sandford having the big one,

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<v Speaker 1>these Hollywood heart attacks. But in reality you can sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>have a heart attack, experience a heart attack, and you

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<v Speaker 1>might conceivably pass it off as innigestion because it's not

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<v Speaker 1>this Hollywood Fred Sanford stumbling around the room kind of situation.

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<v Speaker 1>So it seems to me, and I'm no, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not weighing in as an expert here, but it

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<v Speaker 1>seems to me it's it's likely that he may have

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<v Speaker 1>had a heart attack while laughing, and that's what killed.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you wearing that lab coat and saying that at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, I totally believe you. That's why you

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<v Speaker 1>need to look expert. Yeah, um, yeah, it's very very possible.

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<v Speaker 1>And again this this is a sort of theme we

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<v Speaker 1>see when we look at more modern cases of and

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<v Speaker 1>who know. Again, anytime you're looking at a two possible

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<v Speaker 1>ways of person died, like ultimately, like, no one wants

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<v Speaker 1>to die laughing, but you gotta admit it sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>a good way to go. Like, if you got to

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<v Speaker 1>go out some way in it's little stressful, it might

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<v Speaker 1>as well be dying laughing. Yeah, there are many many

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<v Speaker 1>other ways that I wouldn't want to go out. So

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<v Speaker 1>you could see that where certainly centuries or millennia after

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<v Speaker 1>someone has died, the story might get shifted into a

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<v Speaker 1>happy year. Oh he was a stoic, but he died laughing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a great story, you know, which brings us

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<v Speaker 1>to more modern times. There have been a few instances,

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<v Speaker 1>but the most interesting one, the one that has been

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<v Speaker 1>more closely studied certainly has become part of comedy lore,

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<v Speaker 1>has to do with the older show called The Goodies,

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<v Speaker 1>which I was not familiar with this. Were you familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with the Goodies? No? But just the entire situation and

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<v Speaker 1>what this person was laughing at I couldn't help yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but be tickled by. I mean, it's unfortunate for the

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<v Speaker 1>person who passed away from laughter at this. But we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about this good the Goodies, which is a TV show,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, we're talking about nineteen right, fifty year old

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<v Speaker 1>brick player Alex Mitchell in England. He actually kicked the

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<v Speaker 1>bucket while roaring with laughter at one of these shows Goodies.

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<v Speaker 1>And do you want to describe this? Oh the sketches,

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<v Speaker 1>because okay, so The Goodies is basically three dudes, um

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<v Speaker 1>one or more of them went to college with the

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<v Speaker 1>guys in Monty Python, so they kind of shared a

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<v Speaker 1>similar love of the absurd, and it's certainly absurd to watch. Again.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen any of this and I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>any nostalgia for it. So if you're a big fan

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<v Speaker 1>of the goodies out there right in, I'd love to

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<v Speaker 1>hear your take on it. But this particular sketch that

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<v Speaker 1>arguably killed Alex Mitchell was a kung Fu caper sketch. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is a nineteen seventy five kung fu is

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<v Speaker 1>big and everyone's excited about it and doing songs and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 1>In this surreal sketch, you have a man from Lancashire

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<v Speaker 1>battling via kung fu Scottish bagpipers. There's a man in

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<v Speaker 1>black face as an American boxer. There's a mime like

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<v Speaker 1>a French mine. There's an Australian with a boomerang. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a battle like a kung Fu battle of

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<v Speaker 1>weird kind of distasteful stereotypes. I mean, well, isn't there

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<v Speaker 1>there's putting involved? Right? This is I think the pudding

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<v Speaker 1>is what I was like, what what is going on?

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<v Speaker 1>The Lancashire mode of martial arts and this is called

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<v Speaker 1>ikey thump and it involves palting opponents with black pudding. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so the white stripes, which I can only assume there's

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of correlation here. There's some sort of nutty

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<v Speaker 1>white stripes. Okay, So yeah, this guy is watching this. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, unfortunately, after twenty five minutes of laughing,

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<v Speaker 1>he actually, according to his wife, gave a tremendous belly

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<v Speaker 1>laugh and then keeled over. Yes, um, yeah, what a

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<v Speaker 1>way to go. And it wasn't just that he was

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<v Speaker 1>laughing so very hard that he expired, you know, from

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<v Speaker 1>a heart attack. It was actually that he had an

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<v Speaker 1>unusual inheritable heart rhythm disorder called long QT syndrome. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>Qt like the gas station, yes, quick trip. And this

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<v Speaker 1>actually again keep showing up again and again that there's

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of underlying heart condition. And I did want

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<v Speaker 1>to mention the Danish audiologist. Have you heard about this guy?

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<v Speaker 1>He died laughing in nine while watching a fish called Wanda.

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<v Speaker 1>That now that I can I can get because there's

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<v Speaker 1>some death and again the python element, I know, see

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<v Speaker 1>it is dangerous. Right. When the film was shown in

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<v Speaker 1>theaters in Denmark, Ole Benson, the audiologist, laughed himself to

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<v Speaker 1>death during this scene where Ken gets chips stuck up

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<v Speaker 1>his nose or rather, um, I can't remember the Auto character, Yeah,

0:22:43.680 --> 0:22:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Klein's character. I think it is Auto sticks French

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<v Speaker 1>fries also called chips right up his nose. So Benson

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<v Speaker 1>is watching this, His heart rate went between two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty five hundred beats per minute, and he eventually

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<v Speaker 1>succumbed to cardiac arrest, and his family theorizes that the

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<v Speaker 1>scene reminded him of a thing only dinner a few

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<v Speaker 1>years earlier, when Old put a piece of cauliflower up

0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:07.840
<v Speaker 1>his and everyone uh in his family's noses as a

0:23:07.920 --> 0:23:10.480
<v Speaker 1>joke and made a bet with them on who could

0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:14.239
<v Speaker 1>eat up their carrots without cauliflower falling out. So they

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<v Speaker 1>think that the scene with Ken and the chips really

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<v Speaker 1>sort of insited this crazy laughter because he was remembering

0:23:21.560 --> 0:23:25.520
<v Speaker 1>his own scene. Yeah, it's very sad, I gotta say,

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<v Speaker 1>But Fish Called Wanted is a very very funny movie. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but in this case Mitchell QT syndrome. Cardiac arrests triggered

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<v Speaker 1>by exertion, adrenaline, or a strong emotional response didn't always

0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:40.840
<v Speaker 1>shut down the person entirely. Sometimes the heart resets itself

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<v Speaker 1>after five or six beats. But they figured that this

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<v Speaker 1>was what was the heart of it when they diagnosed

0:23:45.200 --> 0:23:48.760
<v Speaker 1>his daughter with it, and it's an hereditary condition. So

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<v Speaker 1>the doctors at that point said, well, this, this is

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<v Speaker 1>clearly the leading candidate for how this goody sketch did

0:23:55.840 --> 0:23:57.720
<v Speaker 1>him in. And you know, we were talking about it

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<v Speaker 1>being a good way to die, as good as any

0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:03.720
<v Speaker 1>of them are, and certainly his his wife, his his widow,

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<v Speaker 1>she continues to have a rather positive viewing of this,

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<v Speaker 1>Like she actually wrote the guys in the Goodies and said, hey, my, my,

0:24:11.200 --> 0:24:13.760
<v Speaker 1>my husband. He was always a huge fan and he

0:24:13.880 --> 0:24:16.040
<v Speaker 1>died laughing at your show. And you know this is

0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:18.920
<v Speaker 1>before we became a very litigious society. I have to

0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:22.840
<v Speaker 1>say this nineteen I don't know that if the same

0:24:22.880 --> 0:24:25.840
<v Speaker 1>thing would happen today. There's another person too that we

0:24:25.920 --> 0:24:27.720
<v Speaker 1>have an example of this is the ice cream truck

0:24:27.800 --> 0:24:32.240
<v Speaker 1>driver in Thailand. He actually died in his sleep, laughing,

0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:34.679
<v Speaker 1>and his wife said that she tried to wake him up,

0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:37.440
<v Speaker 1>but he kept laughing, and then autopsy suggested that he

0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:40.760
<v Speaker 1>might have had a heart attack. So not only dying

0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:43.280
<v Speaker 1>in your sleep, but you're dying while you're you know,

0:24:44.040 --> 0:24:48.040
<v Speaker 1>presumably having a really funny dream. Yes, and then we

0:24:48.080 --> 0:24:51.000
<v Speaker 1>also should mention laughter induced asthma. This is not really

0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:54.600
<v Speaker 1>a strong candidate for killing anyone. Laughter induced asthma. More

0:24:54.680 --> 0:24:57.199
<v Speaker 1>than half of people with asthma report that their symptoms

0:24:57.240 --> 0:24:59.280
<v Speaker 1>are brought on by laughter. This according to a two

0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:02.000
<v Speaker 1>thousand five from n YU Medical Center in New York.

0:25:02.640 --> 0:25:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Asthma that's triggered by laughter usually doesn't seem to cause

0:25:06.440 --> 0:25:09.280
<v Speaker 1>serious asthma flare ups compared to other types of asthma.

0:25:09.560 --> 0:25:12.520
<v Speaker 1>But the study did suggest that laughter induced asthma maybe

0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:15.199
<v Speaker 1>a sign that your asthma isn't as well controlled as

0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:17.000
<v Speaker 1>it could be. So it's more of a more of

0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:19.600
<v Speaker 1>a warning sign that you you need to adjust your

0:25:19.640 --> 0:25:23.400
<v Speaker 1>management of your asthma than anything else. Before we get

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:26.400
<v Speaker 1>into pathological laughter, I want to mention one more thing

0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:29.240
<v Speaker 1>that can contribute to not lethal laughter, but certainly an

0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:32.040
<v Speaker 1>issue where laughter shuts down the body and interesting ways,

0:25:32.320 --> 0:25:35.359
<v Speaker 1>and that is a cataplexy. This involves a sudden loss

0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:39.080
<v Speaker 1>of voluntary muscle tone that may be triggered by strong emotions.

0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:42.600
<v Speaker 1>That's often a symptom of narcolepsy, which is a chronic

0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:45.600
<v Speaker 1>disorder of the central nervous system characterized by the brains

0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:48.879
<v Speaker 1>and ability to control your your sleep wake cycles. It

0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:52.400
<v Speaker 1>can occur spontaneously, but is often triggered by against sudden

0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:55.639
<v Speaker 1>strong emotions such as fear, anger, stress, excitement, or humor.

0:25:56.160 --> 0:25:58.920
<v Speaker 1>So laughter is reportedly the most common cause of this.

0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:01.280
<v Speaker 1>And if this is ring any bells for anyone out there,

0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:03.479
<v Speaker 1>there was an episode of This American Life a few

0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:06.800
<v Speaker 1>years back about a neuroscientist by the name of Matt

0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:11.639
<v Speaker 1>Frecking who suffers from cataplexy attacks when he's happy. So

0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:13.760
<v Speaker 1>it was a real one of these really down er,

0:26:14.000 --> 0:26:17.119
<v Speaker 1>somber episodes of This American Life because he's a happily

0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:22.199
<v Speaker 1>married man but he has to limit his joy because

0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:26.200
<v Speaker 1>his body shuts down when he experiences too much happiness

0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:30.200
<v Speaker 1>in his life. That's just awful, it is. It's a

0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:32.480
<v Speaker 1>great episode. So look that one up. Just look up

0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Matt threking F R E K I N G and

0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:37.600
<v Speaker 1>This American Life and you'll find that episode. Well, I mean,

0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:39.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, because we're all seeking joy and happiness all

0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 1>the time, right to think that you'd have to actually

0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:44.840
<v Speaker 1>tamp that down. Yeah, it's like he's uh, you know,

0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:47.440
<v Speaker 1>in a way, it's like enforced Buddhism in a kind

0:26:47.440 --> 0:26:50.720
<v Speaker 1>of interested manner, you know about trying to steer yourself

0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:55.080
<v Speaker 1>clear of extremes. But yeah, it's that's rough, all right. Um,

0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:58.879
<v Speaker 1>you had mentioned pathological laughter. Now, this, according to the

0:26:58.920 --> 0:27:01.760
<v Speaker 1>Mayo Clinic, is laughter that can stem from a variety

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:05.840
<v Speaker 1>of neurological disorders, and it can make it extremely difficult,

0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:09.959
<v Speaker 1>sometimes impossible for individuals to control their laughter, even if

0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:13.840
<v Speaker 1>they see no humor in a situation. And in some cases,

0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:19.480
<v Speaker 1>this pathological laughing can switch to pathological crying and the

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:21.879
<v Speaker 1>person cannot do anything about it. And that's that's the

0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:25.240
<v Speaker 1>thing about this is again there's the context maybe completely

0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:27.400
<v Speaker 1>like you could be in a job interview and begin

0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:31.680
<v Speaker 1>this pathological laughing or crying. It seems to occur most

0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:37.159
<v Speaker 1>frequently among people with something called amniotrophic lateral sclerosis, and

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 1>this is a disease of cerebral and spinal nerve cells.

0:27:40.640 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 1>And then almost half of these patients have these PLC symptoms,

0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:49.159
<v Speaker 1>So they're not exactly sure what is the mechanism that

0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 1>is creating this sort of disorder, but uh, you know,

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 1>they're looking more into it. Yeah, PLC pathological laughter and crying,

0:27:57.080 --> 0:27:59.000
<v Speaker 1>and that the take come here is that it's a

0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:02.000
<v Speaker 1>disturbance of feeling rather than a disturbance of emotions. So

0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:04.000
<v Speaker 1>it's not that you know, so if you know anyone

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 1>or encounter anyone that has this, it's not that they're

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:09.680
<v Speaker 1>setting there thinking, oh my god, funerals are hilarious. No,

0:28:09.880 --> 0:28:13.000
<v Speaker 1>it's this that like they're feeling the authentic emotions, are

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 1>feeling what they should feel in the scenario, and what

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:19.720
<v Speaker 1>comes out that's where the disconnect happens. Now, there is

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 1>this idea that, um, it could be a serotonin imbalance,

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 1>and they think that because researchers have had some positive

0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:32.160
<v Speaker 1>results with antidepressants like the selective serotonin re uptake inhibitors.

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 1>So again they're still looking into this, but um, they

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 1>don't know a whole lot yet. In a lot of

0:28:37.840 --> 0:28:40.240
<v Speaker 1>these conditions to it comes down to lesions and tumors

0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 1>that are disinhibiting laughter and crying centers of the brain.

0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 1>They're basically altering the neural network necessary for what we

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:51.320
<v Speaker 1>think of is normal responses situations. Yeah, I remember one

0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:52.960
<v Speaker 1>article that you had sent me that it was about

0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 1>a two year old who had a lesion and at

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 1>the time the mother didn't know it. She just like

0:28:57.360 --> 0:29:00.800
<v Speaker 1>even the two year old was laughing hysterically out of context,

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 1>and they finally figured out. Now I believe they operated

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:07.120
<v Speaker 1>and the child was okay. But yeah, I can definitely

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 1>disturb what seems to be your personality. Yeah, there's a

0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 1>really interesting YouTube video that I'll definitely embed on the

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 1>blog post accompanying this website. The number of you may

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:21.200
<v Speaker 1>have seen, there's a Dutch interview and on the YouTube

0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 1>you can you can click a little tab that will

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:25.520
<v Speaker 1>actually bring up subtitles for it, so it's not just

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:28.160
<v Speaker 1>people in another language, you know, doing a thing. But

0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 1>there was a dutchman by the name of hoog Boss

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:33.800
<v Speaker 1>and the whole thing is an interview with him and

0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:37.120
<v Speaker 1>his wife, and the whole time he's laughing hysterically. Um,

0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 1>and this being the first time you see him, Like

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 1>you you know, we've talked about how laughter is contagious,

0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 1>so you see this man just laughing his head off,

0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:48.200
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, this guy's hilarious, he's fun. He's look

0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:50.360
<v Speaker 1>at him. He's clutching like an Ernie doll at one point.

0:29:51.000 --> 0:29:52.840
<v Speaker 1>But his wife is sitting there the whole time just

0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:56.200
<v Speaker 1>is done with She is over it. She has the

0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:58.680
<v Speaker 1>most sour look on her face. And you're right at

0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:01.520
<v Speaker 1>the beginning, you're like, oh, man, he's he's great, he's warm,

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:04.440
<v Speaker 1>he's funny. Why he's your husband, and he's laughing all

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 1>the time, But so what? And then a couple of

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:09.520
<v Speaker 1>minutes into it, you realize how frustrating it must be

0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:12.640
<v Speaker 1>for her because he laughs all the time. His response

0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 1>to everything is laughter, except when he hears the national

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 1>anthem and then yeah, when he hears Holland's national national anthem.

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:23.080
<v Speaker 1>But now this is what I don't think they actually

0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:26.280
<v Speaker 1>got to the absolute bottom of. But they suspect that

0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:29.640
<v Speaker 1>this occurred because he had an operation and they think

0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:34.440
<v Speaker 1>that the anesthesia may have altered, you know, neurologically the

0:30:34.520 --> 0:30:37.760
<v Speaker 1>way that he his laughter response is coming in and

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:42.400
<v Speaker 1>because you know, his wife says, this didn't happen before

0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:46.720
<v Speaker 1>the operation, and again it is it is hilarious to watch,

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 1>but it's also kind of sad too, because he doesn't

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:52.440
<v Speaker 1>really give a straight answer. You know, he talks, but

0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 1>you can't really tell if he's just trying to tamp

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 1>down his own laughter or perhaps there's something else going

0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:59.480
<v Speaker 1>on there right now. And again, this is a situation

0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:03.320
<v Speaker 1>or someone who's laughing at at everything except in the

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 1>national anthem. But there is an interesting study you came across,

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 1>the Seinfeld study. An individual that is reacting with hysterical

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:16.120
<v Speaker 1>pathological laughter but only to a particular thing or a

0:31:16.160 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 1>particular a very narrow segment of comedy. Yeah, it's called

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 1>the Seinfeld syncope. And it's basically a fainting episode through laughter.

0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:28.160
<v Speaker 1>And it was called the Seinfeld sincope because there have

0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:31.160
<v Speaker 1>been a couple of instances where people were watching Seinfeld

0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 1>and know only Seinfeld and laughing to such a degree

0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 1>that they began to faint. But what is going on

0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:41.040
<v Speaker 1>here is that the show is actually revealing that there's

0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:44.000
<v Speaker 1>a potentially serious problem in the person. The one guy

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 1>who was sixty two years old, he had a history

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:51.360
<v Speaker 1>of hypertension, hyper cholesterol, lemmia, he had a coronary bypass,

0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:54.480
<v Speaker 1>and he was a smoker, and although he received enough

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:57.320
<v Speaker 1>blood to the brain when he was calm, when he

0:31:57.440 --> 0:32:01.600
<v Speaker 1>laughed hysterically, he experienced a normal physiological phenomenon called the

0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:06.320
<v Speaker 1>Valsalva maneuver. Now, when this happens, you get forced expiration

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:09.520
<v Speaker 1>against a closed airway, resulting in increased pressure in the

0:32:09.640 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 1>chest that affects the heart output inside, like the yoga

0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:17.000
<v Speaker 1>breath where you like, uh, school breath. Is that we're

0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:20.960
<v Speaker 1>talking about um breath of fire? Yeah, maybe in a

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:23.760
<v Speaker 1>way that I don't know if it's the exact same thing.

0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:26.520
<v Speaker 1>But in the other yes, is the kin to it

0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 1>and that is causing this pressure. And because he had

0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:33.240
<v Speaker 1>blocked arteries coming off of the Aorita, this Valsavia maneuver

0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:35.760
<v Speaker 1>reduced the blifflow to his brain in and caused him

0:32:35.800 --> 0:32:39.320
<v Speaker 1>to faint. Now what he was watching specifically was the

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:42.560
<v Speaker 1>character of George Costanza, by the way, Yeah, I found

0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:45.080
<v Speaker 1>that that. I mean, that was what was so interesting

0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 1>that it was. It was not just only Seinfeldt, but

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:50.240
<v Speaker 1>it was like one character on Seinfeldt that was really

0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:51.960
<v Speaker 1>causing this for him. And I could see if it

0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 1>was the Marine Biologist episode, because I really like that boy.

0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Well he was pretending to be a marine and then

0:32:58.040 --> 0:33:00.840
<v Speaker 1>the whale washed up. You know, always fun to see

0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:03.640
<v Speaker 1>George unmasked. But I don't know who knows which one

0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 1>it was. But again, not so much that Seinfeld un

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Seinfeld was funny, but but not so much that there

0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 1>was something about seinfeld that was that was impacting people's health,

0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 1>but the individuals had something askew in their own physiology

0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:18.800
<v Speaker 1>that made them susceptible to this attack. And just real quick,

0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 1>it's worth noting that you also see things like Angelman

0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:25.360
<v Speaker 1>syndrome Tourette syndrome. Both of these carried laughters of symptom.

0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 1>You often see patholytical laughter occurring as a symptom. So

0:33:28.600 --> 0:33:31.280
<v Speaker 1>it's not, oh, well, that person's laughs all the time.

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:33.400
<v Speaker 1>It's no, that person laughs all the time. Let's get

0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:35.680
<v Speaker 1>to the bottom of it. So Tourette syndrome is a

0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 1>neurobiological disorder that causes the combination of ticks and involuntary

0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:42.520
<v Speaker 1>vocal outbursts. This is we could do a whole podcast

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:46.440
<v Speaker 1>on Tourette's. But this is one that is often misrepresented

0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 1>to a large extent, and this is certainly in comedy.

0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:51.080
<v Speaker 1>It's people come back to and use it as a

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:53.920
<v Speaker 1>as part of a comedy act, which is someone shouting obscenities.

0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:57.120
<v Speaker 1>But that's a rather simplistic look at what that condition

0:33:57.200 --> 0:34:00.960
<v Speaker 1>actually is. And then Angelman syndrome is a rare chromosome,

0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:04.280
<v Speaker 1>a disorder that affects the nervous system. So people with

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:07.480
<v Speaker 1>this condition usually can't speak and display a quote happy,

0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:12.360
<v Speaker 1>excitable demeanor with frequent smiling and laughter. M okay, So

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 1>there you have it, death by laughter, the possibility of

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:17.880
<v Speaker 1>death by laughter. I guess the will take home here

0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:22.560
<v Speaker 1>is that you probably could not craft a joke so

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:26.720
<v Speaker 1>funny that it would You would have difficulty even crafting

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:30.400
<v Speaker 1>a joke to target a particular individual, like an assassin's

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 1>bullet of a joke, like if you wanted to take

0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:35.440
<v Speaker 1>out us fitting head of state and you put a

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:37.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of research and all right, what do they find funny?

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:40.440
<v Speaker 1>What's there? What's their heart condition? Like? What you know?

0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:42.960
<v Speaker 1>How healthy are they? If you put that much work

0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 1>in it, you could perhaps incapacitate them a little bit, maybe,

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:48.560
<v Speaker 1>but it would be very difficult to actually craft the

0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:50.719
<v Speaker 1>killing joke. Yeah, it would be very very hard. Now

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 1>do you remember in the Monty Python's get about the

0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:57.240
<v Speaker 1>World's myth dangerous joke, the killing joke, what the Germans

0:34:57.320 --> 0:34:59.759
<v Speaker 1>tried to craft In response, No, I don't, and they

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:06.920
<v Speaker 1>over the radio there were sweet peanuts fucking down Distrasse

0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:13.520
<v Speaker 1>and Vaughan Vos assaulted peanut. It is really funny, it's

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:16.320
<v Speaker 1>a pretty good, like it's funny watching the reaction that

0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 1>people who are listening to it over the radio because

0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:22.080
<v Speaker 1>they're just they're just their faces are blank. And but

0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:24.959
<v Speaker 1>it is absurd. Is that sketches. It really does drive

0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:28.320
<v Speaker 1>home the how the absurdity like humor is one of

0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:31.000
<v Speaker 1>those things that doesn't necessarily cross to other languages all

0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:34.200
<v Speaker 1>that well. I often feel like British humor I totally get.

0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:36.239
<v Speaker 1>I share the language with it. If I turn on

0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:38.719
<v Speaker 1>the Spanish TV network and I happened to catch some

0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:41.400
<v Speaker 1>of that. Sometimes I'll see some of the slapstick and

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:43.080
<v Speaker 1>it's making sense. But then I seem to have like

0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:45.960
<v Speaker 1>a real disconnect with Japanese humor, Like I love a

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:48.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of media that comes this way from Japan, but

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:51.680
<v Speaker 1>but when I encounter humor it often I often feel like, wow,

0:35:51.800 --> 0:35:53.759
<v Speaker 1>this is not speaking to me, Like my I don't

0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:56.320
<v Speaker 1>have the right cultural wavelengths set. What about do you

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<v Speaker 1>think there's a French humor? Oh yeah, yeah, okay, tell

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<v Speaker 1>me tell me about what you think the French humor is. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the stereotype, of course, is the French love

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry Lewis. Yeah, but that's an American I mean certainly

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<v Speaker 1>have like the roots of of mime and uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>you have puppetry is of course big street puppetry. To

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<v Speaker 1>see some it's not punching Judy in France, they have

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<v Speaker 1>another name. But I have seen some some French puppetry

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<v Speaker 1>in that vein and it's it's hilarious. But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if we look close enough, we'd find that

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<v Speaker 1>even French humor is more diverse than we think. You know, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure, I'm sure. I'm just thinking that's not really

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<v Speaker 1>known as as a big export for France, so just

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<v Speaker 1>just curious. I tend to think the French this is

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<v Speaker 1>just a huge generation. I think they like grotesque looking

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<v Speaker 1>men doing ridiculous things, but I think that probably the

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<v Speaker 1>same for most cultures. Yeah, all right, Well that's the

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<v Speaker 1>episode we'd love to hear from you guys and gals

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<v Speaker 1>out there. If you have any personal experience with with

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<v Speaker 1>deadly laughter or with any of these conditions that we've

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<v Speaker 1>on that and what it's like to live with it,

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