1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the Cadino and Rich podcast. 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch us live every weekday from five 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 2: to seven Eastern to the four Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 2: Find your local station for Covino on Rich at Foxsports 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app Lie searching FSR. 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: I just looked at the calendar, Monci, and you know what, 8 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: I realized, It's Friday. It's Friday, Friday, Friday, Friday. Now, 9 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: the guys probably did that eight hours earlier when they 10 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: are in for Dan Patrick here on Fox Sports Radio. 11 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: But it is Monty Belanos and myself Dan Buyer in 12 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: for Cavino and Rich today. There is no Dandy g 13 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: There is at Jason S Jason Stewart, Hello, let's call 14 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: him Gosh. Chris. You've been to so many places, lived 15 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: in so many places. I feel like Toledo Chris could 16 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: be a way that we could call you instead of Iowa, Sam. 17 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: Is that good? 18 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: I think someone else calls me usc Chris as well. 19 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: Oh see a lot of different names, just like New 20 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: York and Philly. Sam. Isaac Lohenkron is at the news desk. 21 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: What's going on, Isaac? 22 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 3: On Airbnb. 23 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: Love it Elijah and Sager doing their stuff on the video. 24 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: So glad to have you with us, Bo Benson and 25 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: Ryan Ryan Berschinger in the back doing all of the 26 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: work that we need as well. Welcome in. It is 27 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radios, Cavino and Rich here on a Friday. 28 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: We already did that one hundred and twenty seconds ago. 29 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 4: I think I just do excited. Okay, you can don't 30 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 4: take away. 31 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: Only people more excited than you are those in ann Arbor. 32 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what the guts now, the guts 33 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,199 Speaker 1: of these people. As this story continues to develop, even 34 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 1: when you think it's over, Michigan handed down their NC 35 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: double A sanctions today and now we're getting word Isaac 36 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: reported it that from I'm not sure who broke it first, 37 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: that Michigan is appealing the penalties handed down by the 38 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: NC double A man. 39 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 4: The audacity, No the ball here, your appeal. You know 40 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 4: you appeal something when you when you didn't do it. 41 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 4: Isn't that the way it's supposed to go. 42 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 5: I'm appealing something because you have false me, falsely accused 43 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 5: me of something. But we know that they cheated. We 44 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 5: know the KGB operation. We know that, and now you're 45 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 5: gonna appeal. 46 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: After trying to cover up all of the evidence. Yes, 47 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: it's yes. 48 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 5: And you know, the Wolverine fan base is probably like, yeah, 49 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 5: that's right, We're gonna appeal. 50 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 4: That's right, and you know what, they're not gonna find 51 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 4: us anyway. 52 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do they have to lose. They've already got off, 53 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: you know, basically not entirely scott free, but feeling pretty 54 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: much pretty close. There's gonna be some stuff taken out 55 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: of their wallet, but not the punishment that that few 56 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: of us, a few of us wanted Michigan to receive, 57 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: and now they're appealing it. There is something with there 58 00:02:54,720 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: is there's something with being falsely accused of something. Then 59 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: there's the difference between that and then being not exonerated 60 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: but getting off with a very very light penalty and 61 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: essentially getting away with it. And that's what I think 62 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: that we're weighing here. Like you, I'm sorry, there is 63 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: not a Michigan fan around that can say that we 64 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: didn't do anything. And not only did they not do anything, 65 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: they didn't do anything on multiple occasions. Mazi mentions the 66 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: KGB portion of it, which is I just love that 67 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, which was part of the scheme that they 68 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: had in the sign that the label of the sign 69 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: stealing scandal. This was the message from the Chief hearing 70 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: Officer for the NCAA Committee on Infractions said on the scandal, 71 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: and I'm going to read this quote the true quote. 72 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: The true scope and scale of the scheme, including the 73 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,839 Speaker 1: competitive advantage it afforded, will never be fully known due 74 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: to individuals intentional destruction and withholding of materials and information. 75 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: But the intent was clear to gain a substantial competitive advantage. 76 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: You don't put together a network of individuals called the 77 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: KGB that records what they call dirty film, where the 78 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: cost of doing this is in the tens of thousands 79 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: of dollars over three seasons, unless you intend to gain 80 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: a substantial competitive advantage. The words are much stronger than 81 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: the punishment. Yeah, and what was ultimately handed down. But 82 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: there has to be a way where I know Michigan 83 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: fans are skipping in the streets of ann Arbor, probably 84 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: enjoying their wonderful three day weekend up in the up 85 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: celebrating up nice. Yes, the Upper Peninsula. Any chance we 86 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: have an opportunity to mention it second straight day here 87 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. By the way, we've talked about 88 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: the Upper Peninsula. Any opportunity that they can have to 89 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: celebrate this they can, and now to appeal that it 90 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: is it's just it's in their face. It's it's to 91 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: everybody else's is like watch this now, well, now watch 92 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. We got away with all this 93 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: other stuff. Actually going to try to appeal it and 94 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: get less of a penalty. 95 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 4: I know, it's really rich. You get a slap on 96 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 4: the wrist, and then you're mad about the slap on 97 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 4: the wrist. Don't you dare slap me on the wrist? 98 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 4: That's what they're saying. I can't. I cannot believe they're 99 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 4: appealing it. 100 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 5: What a what a joke they're making of the n 101 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 5: C double A. 102 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: I it's and because they can probably that's it's probably 103 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: the reason why. And then there really aren't any direct 104 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: effects to hinder this Michigan football team except you run 105 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: more getting a game suspension or a couple of game suspension. 106 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: So those are the things that are things that the 107 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: Michigan football team is going to have to deal with 108 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: this year. But that pales in comparison to what it 109 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: could have been or what should have been from the 110 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,239 Speaker 1: back end of it. But it does provide a bigger picture. 111 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: I just I balanced the the I'm actually innocent to 112 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: the I got away with it, like I can understand. 113 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: That's like I didn't I didn't know that. I wasn't 114 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: I wasn't sure of it. I didn't know this rule. 115 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: Maybe you were a naive or maybe weren't even involved 116 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: at all. But I just don't think that getting away 117 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: with the easier penalty is reason to celebrate something as 118 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: opposed to not doing anything at all. 119 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 5: Oh no, you're one hundred percent right. But the thing 120 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 5: is they are going to celebrate. They're probably celebrating more 121 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 5: than they were before over that championship. Now they're like, look, 122 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 5: we are invincible. Yes, that is how I would feel 123 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 5: right now if I was in Michigan. 124 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: I'm trying to take it into real world terms, in 125 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: terms of like a speeding ticket, okay, or some sort 126 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: of like traffic enforcement. I got busted for something I 127 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 1: didn't do twelve years ago at the intersection right outside 128 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: of work. I didn't do anything wrong, and I got 129 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: pulled over and got a ticket for what they said 130 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: I did, even though I didn't do it, and it 131 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: still bothers me to this day that I didn't fight 132 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: it to the lengths that I should have fought it. 133 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: I ultimately just took the punishment and let it go away. 134 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: But in my heart of arts, I know that I 135 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: was wrong. The complete exact opposite, I think is is 136 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: this is the jubilee that you would get for knowing 137 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: that you did it, did it on your own terms, 138 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: and then hardly had to pay the price for it. 139 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: Like there's they don't feel guilty about this. This isn't 140 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: This isn't cheating on a on a spouse and having 141 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: remorse or a significant other and then all please come back. No, 142 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: this is this is none of that. This is embezzling 143 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: all these dollars and then spending it and living the 144 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: life of Riley and then coming back and getting a 145 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: slap on the wrist. 146 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like they're justifying it in their own way, 147 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,559 Speaker 5: you know, like Ross Scaler justifying cheating on or Rachel 148 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 5: Green because they were on a break. That's what Michigan 149 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 5: is doing right now, trying to justify it. Oh, it's 150 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 5: a technicality, this is we didn't break any rules. 151 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 4: Get out of here with that mess. So I got 152 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 4: time for that. 153 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: Jason Stewart's our executive producer. 154 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 6: Hey, I got a great example. This is a real 155 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 6: happy one for our Cavino and rich audience, real life example. 156 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 6: And tell me if I'm wrong. You talk about, uh, 157 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 6: the punishment coming up way short of the crime and 158 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 6: walking away from something, being able to never say that 159 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 6: you were innocent and everyone knows you did something bad. 160 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: P Diddy, Yes or no? 161 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 4: I hear what you're trying to go with it. I 162 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 4: guess yes. 163 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 6: It seemed like a consensus at least from the legal community, 164 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 6: that he got away with so much and walked away 165 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 6: with a light slap on the wrist, and the reaction 166 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 6: from his fan base and from the people that still 167 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 6: respect the guy for some reason was Yeah, that's it. 168 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: What would O J be be? I mean, it is 169 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: a perfect We know that he did it, and he understood, 170 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: but then we understood that he did it, but yet 171 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: he gets cleared, Like these are all these are all 172 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: trials that that we're going through where the outcome is 173 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: And I feel that I'm even just trying to think 174 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: of like in your in your daily life, when when 175 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: you're late and your flying down a getting traffic enforcement. 176 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: You're flying down the freeway and you go eighty five 177 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: the whole way and make it to work and or 178 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: make it to where you need to go. Like there's 179 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: you know, there's something something to that. What I think 180 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: would be a high or high is maybe getting stopped 181 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: and then. 182 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 4: Holding yes yeah, yes, right. 183 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: And that's where I feel like like Michigan is of 184 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: like they just maybe they didn't have the radar gun 185 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: going at the time, but they saw you going so 186 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: fast past everyone else that they had to stop you, 187 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: so they give you the warning, but you get away 188 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: with it. That's what I feel happened with Michigan. Yeah, 189 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: that's what I feel like, is the equivalent not being 190 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: pulled over in my traffic stop where I didn't do 191 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: anything wrong, Trust me, I didn't. There was no traffic 192 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: that day. They said I went around cars in a 193 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: lane that I shouldn't have. It was a holiday, there 194 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: was nobody on the street, Manzi, there were completely Twelve 195 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: years later, I'm still mad about it, but that's what 196 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: I feel like. There's there's something to it as opposed 197 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: to not doing it or actually doing it and getting 198 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: away with it with little to no penalty. 199 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 5: We were just tweeted at by Moss Mace Underscore seventy eight. 200 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 5: He tweeted all of us basically saying that this appeal 201 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 5: is purely performative. If they don't appeal, it's them saying, yeah, 202 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 5: we got away with it, ha ha ha. By appealing, 203 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 5: they're still you know, projecting their innocence. 204 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: Yes, I I'm a good point, yes I, but I 205 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: don't think that they're they're innocent. Like Connor Stallions did 206 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: come you know, did speak with the nc double A. 207 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: He this is the whole thing is as well with 208 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: him is just completely defiant. Was Jim Harbaugh and then 209 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: he leaves and is now in the NFL and never 210 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: has to This from a guy who's quoted as saying 211 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: when he was the forty nine ers head coach that 212 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: you know, cheaters never win in the whole deal. But 213 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: there was conversations that Connor Stallions did have with the 214 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: with the NCAA where reportedly he was emotional in what 215 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: his doings were, so you knew that there was some wrongdoing. 216 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: But as Michigan as a whole, I think Moss is 217 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 1: maybe correct in what he's saying. 218 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's just unbelievable though that this is it 219 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 5: makes sense that it's like they're trying to appeal because 220 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 5: they don't want to admit that they got away with it. 221 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 4: But we know you got away with it. 222 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: And Jim Harbaugh is the one that like the biggest 223 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: one where I think because he's in control, he is 224 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 1: the program, and let's be honest, he is Michigan. He 225 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: was their quarterback at one point and comes back to 226 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: save it. Andrew tweets in saying, why would you penalize 227 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: the championship season when the sign stealing was done during 228 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 1: the prior season. This is such a non story, and 229 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: then he says, read Andy Staples article about it. I'll 230 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: get the Andy's article at some point. It's not going 231 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: to be in the next two hours while we're on 232 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: the we're on the air. The point of Jim Harbaugh 233 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: is Jim Harbaugh was in place and you had wrongdoing. 234 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 1: He was suspended by the Big Ten for three games 235 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: and then was given the suspension, where a lot of 236 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 1: people thought that it was underserved, like the hay was 237 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: already in the barn, like something needed to be done 238 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: on a grand scale, but you needed the NCAA to 239 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: have their investigation. There was a time to penalize Michigan. 240 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: That's just not how the process worked. And again that 241 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: worked in the favor of Michigan because this is drawn 242 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: out now in August of twenty twenty five, you know 243 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: where we're almost two full football seasons removed from something 244 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: like this happening or these these actions happening, and we're 245 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: still talking about it. That's part of the front frustration 246 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 1: of it is because these things are so drawn out 247 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: that you can never really punish the right people. And 248 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: here was an opportunity where maybe you could, maybe you 249 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: could penalize Jim Harbaugh for what he did. And it's 250 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: not just the one championship season. There were building blocks 251 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: up to that point. 252 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 5: To say that they're not connected leading up to the championship. 253 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: That doesn't work. Yes, that's it actually, I think works 254 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: like in college we think like, oh, guys move every 255 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: four years, but there's a building up to that point. 256 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 1: The point is is you had a guy in a 257 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: job where you could directly penalize him or directly penalize 258 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: the school. Then they chose not to do it, and 259 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: instead we had a full drawn out process, which which 260 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: is frustrating, and now on top of it, Michigan has 261 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: gotten away with it, and then they have the guts 262 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: to sit there and appeal it. I mean, it's just 263 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 1: I don't want to say at least that OJ got 264 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: you know, pegged in the civil suit, but that's small 265 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: beans considered. He couldn't pay what he owed in the 266 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: civil suit anyway. And then ultimately there was something else 267 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 1: in what's the memorabilia stuff where OJ got some jail 268 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: time for the memorabilia heist that went on, But that 269 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: doesn't make up for the fact that we all believe 270 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: that he killed two people. 271 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 6: You know what you and Ohio State fans can kind 272 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 6: of hope for Dan is that karma kicks in. 273 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: I'm not a. 274 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 6: Religious person or a real spiritual person, but I do 275 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 6: believe in karma. In this instance, OJ paid the price publicly. 276 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 6: Deshaun Watson, I think, is paying the price publicly. He 277 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 6: got off without any punishment obviously, no, I guess the 278 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 6: NFL handed him one year suspension, but everyone feels like 279 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 6: it was far less of punishment for the crime. But 280 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 6: like seeing Deshaun Watson be ostracized by the Cleveland community 281 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 6: and women and stuff has kind of given me a 282 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 6: sense of justice. If Michigan has something awful happened to them, 283 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 6: are you ever going to get justice? Nie? 284 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: I am curious to see on how this all falls 285 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: out with the fines and financially if it will have 286 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: any effect. I don't think that Jim Harbaugh will feel 287 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: any penalties whatsoever. And as I told you guys earlier today, 288 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: if the Chargers win the Super Bowl, it's going to 289 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: be the greatest twelve months of Jim Harbaugh's career, and 290 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: this hat would have happened in that twelve month span. 291 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: And I feel that there are people who love the 292 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: Harbaugh Act as it is the Khakis, the down to Earth, 293 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: you know, like that's that's how that's how he's portrayed. 294 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: He's a different cant there's no doubt about it. But 295 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: I feel that people embrace that, and because of some 296 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: of the stuff that he did do and does do, 297 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: people like that. And I don't know if he's if 298 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: he's going to ever feel the true ramifications of this, 299 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: because the penalties that they gave him just don't apply 300 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: because he's not going back to college sports. 301 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 5: And that's to what you're saying, He's he's liked as 302 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 5: a person, and what he did it wasn't egregious like O. J. 303 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 5: Simpson or like Deshaun Watson. This was sign stealing, which 304 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 5: a lot of people would be like, it's just sign stealing, right, Like, 305 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 5: I don't think people look at it the same exact 306 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 5: way as those other two. 307 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 4: So, but he's so liked, he's so liked as just 308 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 4: the person he is. 309 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 6: There's degrees of karma, and I think that maybe you 310 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 6: could actually accept the uh and this is a weird 311 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 6: kind of way to look at it. You could accept 312 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 6: the Rashad Slater maybe as as your first step in 313 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 6: bad karma for coach Harbaugh. 314 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 4: It's an interesting that is a yeah. 315 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: I I hope for Rashaun Slater's sake that he's not 316 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: the one that's having to deal correct to having to 317 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: pay for the the punishment of Jim Harbaugh. But just 318 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: the charger current, You're you're right, it may be it 319 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: may be karma. I feel like there's just certain things 320 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: that people don't care as much about. So when you 321 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: bring up the the astros and the signs dealing, which 322 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: I've said here over the past couple of months, I 323 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 1: feel most of baseball has moved on from it. I 324 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: think most of college football has moved on from it. 325 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 1: One of the more frustrating things to me was not 326 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: what Michigan did, was how people viewed what Michigan did. 327 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: And it's saying because it wasn't as important to them, 328 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: so it wasn't that big of a deal. And then 329 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: now the fight back onto what people who think Michigan 330 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: did do wrong or a lot of what aboutism's without 331 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: dealing with the real problem, and the real issue is 332 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: this is they cheated, didn't want to talk with the NCAA, 333 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: didn't cooperate. Then they had a bigger scandal where we 334 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: heard spending thousands of dollars in deleting evidence and not cooperating, 335 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: and then this is all they get. So they're not 336 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: even a first time offender. You can't even give them 337 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,719 Speaker 1: a warning. But yet the penalty sure feels like it 338 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: was warning esque. 339 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 4: Absolutely flap on the wrist. 340 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: Yes, and then it happened on a Friday. So this 341 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: will just go on and then by Monday we'll be 342 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: onto something new. 343 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 344 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 345 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 3: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsportsradio Dot 346 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 3: com and within the iHeartRadio app. 347 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: Covino and Rich now have a brand new YouTube channel 348 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: for the show. 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It was almost meant to be right. 359 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: Yes, it works, It really does. 360 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 4: Every time I hear them say that, I'm like, you 361 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 4: couldn't plan that better. 362 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: You know what else works? What works putting Taylor Swift 363 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 1: on a podcast. That's right because it worked for New 364 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: Heights Travis Kelcey and his girlfriend Taylor Swift on the 365 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: New Heights podcast with Kelsey's brother Jason Kelcey. You know, 366 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: Travis and Jason do the podcast, but they've never done 367 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: it to these numbers. Three hundred and seventy nine million 368 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: views on Instagram, over sixty one point six million views 369 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: on x TikTok, had another thirty four and a half 370 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: million views on YouTube where I watched it fifteen million views. 371 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: As for the live viewers, that was me one point 372 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: three million time I'm crashed. At one point, they passed 373 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: three million followers on Instagram and there were four hundred 374 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: thousand new YouTube subscribers since and it's the most concurrent 375 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: podcast listeners ever. For the New Heights episode that aired 376 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, I. 377 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 5: All those people that were hate watching must have been 378 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 5: so annoyed by the end of it, because it was 379 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 5: honestly a really entertaining I don't even know how long 380 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 5: it was. I can't even remember, but the whole thing 381 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 5: was quite entertaining for me. Obviously I love Taylor Swift, 382 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 5: but there were so many different parts of it. I 383 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 5: didn't know where it was going. We obviously there was 384 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 5: a new album, but I didn't know what exactly that. 385 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 4: We're going to talk about. 386 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 5: And more importantly, I think we don't get to see 387 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 5: them interact a lot together, Jason, Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift, 388 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 5: and it. 389 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 4: Was really cute and sweet. 390 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 5: How they were with each other, which we didn't get 391 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 5: to see this entire like last two years of their relationship. 392 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: Did you like how they were holding hands throughout it? 393 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 5: They were holding hands, He kissed her like on the 394 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 5: head a few times in moments that I thought was 395 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 5: very sweet and genuine. And anyone who's like this is 396 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 5: so fake, yeh, shut up, go argue with the wall. 397 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 4: No it's not. 398 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:44,719 Speaker 5: Oh. 399 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: I did appreciate Jason asking questions that were relevant into 400 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: what everybody wanted to know about, Like I brought up 401 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: the point of the publishing deal and the what's the 402 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: difference of your mass and stuff. 403 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 4: Like that, and totally interesting. 404 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: We locked in on giving that answer. 405 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 4: I don't know any of that. 406 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 5: You knew she had gone through that, but I thought 407 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 5: that was so interesting. 408 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 4: I also, you know, to start off when she explains what. 409 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 5: She thought football was at first, that was also great 410 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 5: to hear. 411 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: Yes, we got that this is what Taylor Swift actually 412 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: thought football and how football was played. 413 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 3: I thought I thought that the quarterback. 414 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: See, that's how you played it on the on the 415 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: playground growing up. So I understand if you hadn't. 416 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 4: Like, no, you don't understand. 417 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 2: I thought it was like Jared Goff is here and 418 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 2: Josh Allen's here, and they're gonna be like they blow 419 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 2: a whistle. 420 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 3: And then they they go at each other and they're 421 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 3: like and. 422 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 4: Like who's gonna win? 423 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: That's actually I would love to see Jared Golf got 424 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: play defense. See, I got some ideas, I've got some thoughts, and. 425 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 5: You know, leading into that question because she says that 426 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 5: when she first started like dating Travis, leading into that 427 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 5: exact quote, she would heart. 428 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 4: She says that she asked Travis like, how did it feel? 429 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 4: You know, you played your brother in the Super Bowl. 430 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,719 Speaker 5: You're standing there, he's standing on the other side. How 431 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 5: to feel and that then they were like you, no, no, 432 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 5: I play offense, he plays offense. 433 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 4: We actually don't see each other like that. 434 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 5: And I thought it was it was sweet that she 435 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 5: asked a question that, yeah, like how is it with 436 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 5: your brother? And then that's how it led into her 437 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 5: response to being like no, no, no, I really thought this 438 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 5: is how football was played. 439 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: Yes, it was a great revelation and I love how 440 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: it's also is a glimpse and how the mind works 441 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: when you're learning about football. Total like, ohow, somebody thought 442 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: that those two were on the same field. What should 443 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: be noted Jared Golf almost did have to play defense 444 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: for the Lions last year because everybody was hurt. Chris Prophet, 445 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 1: I think you can attest to that a pain, so 446 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: much pain. He was like dB fourteen on the team. 447 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 2: And I do I do wonder if she takes away 448 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 2: from like how we talk about all these games when 449 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 2: you see a big you know, here's the game coming 450 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 2: up on Amazon or on Fox. It's Jared Goff and 451 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 2: the Lions take on take on Josh Allen the Bills. 452 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 2: It makes it sound once again, I have this conversation 453 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 2: with people all the time. It makes it sound like 454 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 2: when we say these quarterbacks are facing each other, they're 455 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 2: actually facing each other. Yeah, you're absolutely they totally get 456 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 2: why someone like that would would take that. 457 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: I would also say that if you just never watch football, 458 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: basketball is more of a sport that is commonly known. 459 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: So Lebron James and Steph Curry are on the court 460 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,199 Speaker 1: at the same time. To Christ's point, you're seeing Lebron 461 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: James and Steph Curry head to head in the NBA Finals, 462 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: and so you would think, like, oh, that's why they 463 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: would do it, or that sport does it that way, 464 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: so why wouldn't football also do it that way? 465 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 5: Absolutely, and even in basketball, you could just watch it 466 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 5: and kind of understand what's happening. 467 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 4: If you watch football. 468 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 5: And you have never watched it is it is hard 469 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 5: to keep up. If you don't know football, it is 470 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 5: hard to keep up and watch it. You don't know basketball. 471 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 5: You can tune in and be like, Okay, I get 472 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 5: what's going on. Basketball has to go in the hoop 473 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 5: gay five on five. 474 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 4: It's not like. 475 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: That, yes, because in football you can kick the ball 476 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: from the same spot and two different situations and it's 477 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: different points exactly. So an extra point and a thirty 478 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: three yard field goal are the same distance. And if 479 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: you're trying to learn, that makes it very very difficult. 480 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: At least in the NBA. You see the line on 481 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: the floor where you're like, this is two, that is three. 482 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 4: And it doesn't change. 483 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, but for whatever reason, from the same exact 484 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: spot in football, if you don't understand the point after attempt, 485 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: it would be or they're going for two here, well 486 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: why don't they get six? Well they just got six, 487 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: Well why can't you get six again? Like I feel 488 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: like those are conversations that would happen in a living 489 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: room totally. I also feel that there's something to this 490 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,479 Speaker 1: is we're now forty eight hours out something that happened 491 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: earlier in the year not apples to apples, but the 492 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,239 Speaker 1: halftime show with Kendrick Lamar, there was there was a 493 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: different like being there live, being at the super Bowl. 494 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: As fortunate as I was, you have a different experience 495 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: for what is they made for TV concert, But it 496 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:07,719 Speaker 1: was a concert that really ended up thriving because of 497 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: social media afterwards. We were talking about it for a 498 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: week or two, and I feel like when you look 499 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: at something like this again, it's not apples to apples. 500 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if we're going to be talking about 501 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: this two weeks from now, but it's got so much 502 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: of a longer shelf life than just when it originally appeared. 503 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: And maybe that's how things are nowadays. But I feel 504 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: like there's just some similarities with that performance that we 505 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: had in February to what this episode was. 506 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 4: You're right on the money. I agree with you. 507 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 5: We were talking about that show for so long after 508 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 5: the fact. Didn't think we would be, but we were. 509 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 5: This is still being talked about and it might still 510 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 5: be talked about in a week. 511 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 4: Damn, that's how big it was. 512 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: You watched it live. 513 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 4: I watched it a lot. 514 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: Show you didn't have to wait for people that don't. 515 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: You can still add to those numbers. Jason Stewart and 516 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: I both watched it. You watched it on YouTube? Is 517 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: that where you also watched it? 518 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 6: Jay, I caught some of it on YouTube and the I've 519 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 6: just been watching all equips. 520 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, yeah, it's all. 521 00:25:59,080 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 4: You're gonna say. 522 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 5: You guys watched together, like you gathered, grabbed some food. 523 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 6: We shared the actual iPod. 524 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: We we had to get really close's precious iPad iPod. 525 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 6: Can I give you my quick takeaways because in a 526 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 6: lot of ways, I come at this very from the 527 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 6: opposite of what Mancy comes at it. She's a super fan, 528 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 6: as are millions of people. I would argue millions of 529 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 6: teenage girls. But you guys have talked me off that wedge. 530 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 6: I won't sell that. 531 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 4: I am so close to a teenage girl though. 532 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 6: And I'm guessing as a teenage girl you liked her. 533 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 6: Maybe yes, no. 534 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, we I am the same age as as Taylor Sweat. 535 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 6: So yes, so I I was. I was captivated by 536 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 6: how they interacted. Yes, and I was the one early 537 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 6: I was the old curmudgeon saying this was fake. It 538 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 6: was a huge publicity stunt. But I apologize to you 539 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 6: about six months in and I but I was captivated 540 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 6: by how they interact like giddy teenagers. They're both in 541 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 6: their thirties, they've both had many relationships, but the handholding 542 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 6: thing and just the way that they address each other. 543 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 6: There's still very much in seemingly that honeymoon phase that 544 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 6: all of us have been in the first few months totally, 545 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 6: but they're what eighteen months in or whatever it's been. 546 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 6: It's like to me, that's what first caught hold. And 547 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 6: then just how engaged she is and what he's passionate about. 548 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 6: And I know that he's engaged with what she's passionate about. 549 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 6: He knows her music. He seems to like her music, 550 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 6: which I can't. I can't get. So those were kind 551 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 6: of my takeaways, like just how engaging both of them 552 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 6: in are in each other's lives and how they they 553 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 6: deal with each other. Nobody knows if it's going to last, 554 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 6: but you hope that it does. But you hope that 555 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 6: it does. People change. 556 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: What I will say is, well to piggyback off of 557 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: that is and I look at it from a weird way. 558 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: I think that that people have a lot of insecurities. 559 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: And so if I was dating Taylor Swift and she 560 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: had dated famous guys, well you know John Mayer, I 561 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: literally say, yeah, you know Jake Jillenhall. Wasn't he another 562 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: one like this? Like there are others like that. Takes 563 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: like you have to have confidence in yourself if you're 564 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey. But also if you were insecure, you would 565 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: maybe hold that, unfortunately against the other person, you would 566 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: hold that against Taylor Swift. Well, Taylor Swift just has 567 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: to say you had a dating show or you just 568 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: dated all of these other different you know like women, 569 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: she could have that sort of insecurity. They don't have that. 570 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: That's not how they live, that's not who they are. 571 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: And I felt that that, like that's another reason why 572 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: it works. They're secure in who they are. They don't 573 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: worried about this, worried about that, or could do this 574 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: or could do that. They also seem to be living 575 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: in the present. 576 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 5: Absolutely, And I feel like with with Taylor Swift, you know, 577 00:28:55,640 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 5: there's rumors or stories that Beyonce, if you ever Beyonce 578 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 5: doesn't say a lot. 579 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 4: She like doesn't do a lot of interviews. 580 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 5: She doesn't just go out there and talk, and that's 581 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 5: because they say they don't want her to because they 582 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 5: don't trust what she may say. I was surprised at 583 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 5: how comfortable Taylor Swift was in this podcast for talking 584 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,239 Speaker 5: about everything, because you could argue that it was a 585 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 5: bit scripted, but it didn't feel that way. 586 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 4: If it was, it was nice to see her. And 587 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 4: she also is. 588 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 5: Very self deprecating, which you don't hear her say that 589 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 5: a lot. When when Travis kelcey was. 590 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 4: Like you're an athlete, She's like, I am not an athlete. 591 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 4: She's like, no, what are you talking about? 592 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 5: Like training for this, and she's like, you're so sweet 593 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 5: when she even like grabbed his face, so she's like, 594 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 5: I am not an athlete. There was just so many 595 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 5: sides I feel like of Taylor Swift that we never 596 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 5: get to see. 597 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 4: Travis kelce We get to see all sides of it. 598 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 4: He was on a reality TV show. 599 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 5: This was just a different side even of Travis kelce 600 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 5: but more of all the different sides of Taylor Swift. 601 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 6: That you don't get to see what you're talking about. 602 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 6: Is like it was just a genuine nature their interaction. 603 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 4: It just seems so genuine the whole thing. 604 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 6: I am such a skeptic that my BS meter is 605 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 6: always on and I would love to tell you that 606 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 6: there was a lot of BS meter going off and 607 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 6: there wasn't. Really, It's just a genuine interaction. 608 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: There was a little for me, but I don't want 609 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: that to make it seem like it's a negative thing. 610 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: Like in the back of my mind, I'm like, she's 611 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: a performer. She gets it like when you're when you're 612 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: in the biz, you know when you have to turn 613 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,239 Speaker 1: it on, and I feel like she knows how to 614 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: turn it on. There were no yes, no questions. She 615 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: knew the format, she knew to fill, she knew those things. 616 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,479 Speaker 1: It's also a safe place where you're not guarded and 617 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: you feel like you were going to be asked something 618 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: that is uncomfortable, so you can say what you say 619 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: and know that you're not going to get any pushback 620 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: on it. But I did. I didn't think it was fake. 621 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: I just thought, Okay, there's certain things that are being 622 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: talked about here and done in a certain way because 623 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: of the way the surrounding people are totally. 624 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 4: The point of this was to promote her new album. 625 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 5: Yes that it was going to be you know, curated 626 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 5: for that, but even even with that, Dan, even though 627 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 5: she is a performer, this was I guess the performance. 628 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 4: But it was it just I'm with Jason. It was 629 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 4: so just genuine. 630 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 6: I think both Dan an Art could be right because 631 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 6: I think Dan, you're talking about the way she presented 632 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 6: in her answers, I'm talking about their actual interaction. Just 633 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 6: to just looking at both of them, I was discernibly 634 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 6: looking at how they interact and it just there was 635 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 6: no bs there that it was interesting. 636 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: I felt he was the third wheel. I've said that. 637 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: I felt like her and Jason had a really good 638 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: cheaistry going back and forth, and Travis is usually the 639 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: one talking to Jason, and so now he isn't. So 640 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: he's just kind of standing by, trying to say his 641 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: stuff in a certain way, and maybe he's not going 642 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: to use the language that he and his brother normally 643 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: do because his girlfriend is sitting there. But I felt 644 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: like I actually felt like he was the third wheel 645 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: a little bit in terms of the interactions because he 646 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: just wasn't familiar in that scenario. 647 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 4: He was kind of like the third wheel, which makes 648 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 4: it even better if you think about it. He let 649 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 4: her just shine. 650 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 651 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 3: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 652 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 3: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 653 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: Civino and Rich here on Fox Sports Radio. 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Yeah, 672 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: Brewers have even more separation in the UNL Central and 673 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: the Misses back as well. So things looking up for 674 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: the team that's won twelve in a row. 675 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 4: That's for your team. 676 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: Well it's not the It's not the only winning streak 677 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball. There there's another. It's a five 678 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: game streak by the San Diego Padres, your first place 679 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: team in the NL West as they start an enormous 680 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: series tonight with a team that has lost their last 681 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: four in the Los Angeles Dodgers. 682 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's good. You want to talk about it, Yes, 683 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 4: I do. 684 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: It was I was leaving it open to interpretation from 685 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: uh miss Dodger to my left and mister Dodger on 686 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: the other side of the glass. Jason Stewart, two teams 687 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: going in different directions. This may seem like it's easy analysis, 688 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: but for as bad as things have gone for the 689 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: Dogs since the trade deadline, I will say that if 690 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: you are successful in this series, your season can change 691 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: and can start something the rest of the way. It 692 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 1: just has to happen this weekend. 693 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 5: It's just so annoying, right Jason being a Dodger fan 694 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 5: right now, because it's it's not even like I'm not 695 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 5: worried even though it's getting it's getting a little too tight. 696 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 4: I'm not worried about the Dodgers making it to the postseason. 697 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 5: I think even if the Padres win the Division, the 698 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 5: Dodgers are in the postseason. But the way they're playing 699 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 5: right now, it's really annoying and really hard to watch. 700 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 5: It's almost like winning the World Series in year one 701 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 5: of show Hey, o Tawny's tenure with the Doyers has 702 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 5: like bit them in the butt a little bit because 703 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 5: it feels like they're playing like they already won, Like 704 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 5: they're like, we're good, we won. Sho Hey is out 705 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 5: there doing what it can on the mound. He got 706 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,959 Speaker 5: rocked the other day for the first time since coming 707 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 5: back to the mound. But like they're just like there's 708 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 5: no It's like where where where is your fire? Why 709 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 5: does it feel like I'm just over in? 710 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 4: You got that? You know, my fellow Cuban Fred over 711 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 4: here is a glowing crown right on? 712 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: What did you say? 713 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 4: It's like you, where where is your want to win? 714 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:18,760 Speaker 1: Gotcha? 715 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,399 Speaker 4: Where is it? I don't see it? 716 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,240 Speaker 5: And I understand it's hard to repeat in any sport. 717 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 5: I get that in baseball even harder to repeat. Like 718 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 5: it seems like you guys are just cool with it 719 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 5: because you won last year. 720 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 6: There's that cliche that about being the first team or 721 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,720 Speaker 6: the first group of guys to have to defend a title. 722 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 6: There's a different pressure. Yes, I want to say it 723 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 6: kind of works on you mentally, and then you you'll 724 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 6: hear the front office tell you that the flood of 725 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 6: injuries has been the issue. Andrew Friedman totals of the 726 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 6: trade deadline that we're not making any significant moves because 727 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 6: we have so many people coming back from injury. I 728 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,399 Speaker 6: think there was a flawed of that, but I will 729 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 6: offer some optimism to you guys. To Dodger fans, in 730 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 6: twenty sixteen or seventeen, the Dodgers went on this amazing 731 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 6: streak in July and August, and I think we're There 732 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 6: was a Sports Illustrat article that said, is this the 733 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 6: greatest Major League team ever? They didn't win the World 734 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 6: Series that year. Yeah, So for Brewers fans think of that, 735 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 6: that's a cautionary tale. And for Dodger fans, the other 736 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 6: side of that coin is we could get hot when 737 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 6: these guys come back. But it's more than just the 738 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 6: injuries and the pitching. They're not doing something at the 739 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,280 Speaker 6: plate that they should be doing. They should have more 740 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 6: of a an urgency with they're at bats. There's something going. 741 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 6: Something's missing. I can't put my finger on it, but 742 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 6: something's missing. 743 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 5: And to expect that they can just turn it on 744 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 5: when everybody comes back, that's that is not the mentality 745 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,720 Speaker 5: I want to go into the end of the season 746 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 5: here and this last month like, oh, don't worry, we 747 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 5: can turn it on when everybody gets back. No, no, no, 748 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 5: you should have been just turning it on this whole time, 749 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 5: or at least trying to. But I'm with Jason, where's 750 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:01,720 Speaker 5: the urgency again? 751 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 4: Where is the want to win? 752 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: You know? You guys are It's really rich to hear this, 753 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,879 Speaker 1: like it truly is. I mean, it's it's August fifteenth. 754 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: If you sweep this series tonight, you leave the weekend 755 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: with a two game lead over the Padres, and you 756 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 1: beat your current maybe not forever rival, but a current rival, 757 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: and the weekend and this weekend can change everything. I 758 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: just find it amazing. You guys are winning a title 759 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: there should be like a five year cushion where you 760 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: can let this stuff slide. No, and it's not. It's 761 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: the other way around. The Fancy Angels, the entire season. 762 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 4: The entire season. 763 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: Thank you, She's that's Jason Stewart, I'm Dan Byert's Cavino 764 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,280 Speaker 1: and rich Isaac Lowancron is here, as is Chris Perfett. 765 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: Clayton Kershaw on the bump tonight for the Dodgers. I 766 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 1: don't know if Denzel Washington is a Dodgers fan or 767 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: a Yankees fan, but he is a fan of one team, 768 00:37:58,360 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 1: and we got a problem with it.