WEBVTT - The Fifth Hour: "We Wanna Know!!!" Mail Bag 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:01.480 Cut booms. 0:00:02.320 --> 0:00:05.400 If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:09.240 a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:12.520 of the old republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:15.520 treats crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:19.640 rich pill poppers in the penthouse. Wow. The Clearinghouse of 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:23.520 hot takes break free for something special. The Fifth Hour 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:30.720 with Ben Maller starts right now. 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:37.720 In the air everywhere. It's a football Sunday, National Football League, 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:41.760 and this is the unofficial pregame show to your football Sunday. 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:44.800 Here the Fifth Hour with me, Ben Mahler. Danny g 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:49.000 is away on assignment on a tropical island, far far away, 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:53.239 and so in his place we have my friend Alex 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:57.920 ty Shirt, Alex the vegan as I like footballer. Yeah, you, 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:01.840 thank you for that. Very nice years. The seventeenth day 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:07.160 of November and I did not finish the Malard travelog, 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:10.160 so I wanted to start with that again. I talked 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:14.320 about the malor meat greet, talked about the barbecue a 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:19.200 little bit. But on this Sunday morning. Now you've known 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:21.120 me for a few years now, Alex, you know that 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:25.559 I am not a morning person doing the overnight show. 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:28.640 I go to bed in the morning. Yes, I have 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:32.080 crackhead hours. I don't wake up in the morning for 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:36.840 anything other than maybe a plane, right, maybe a plane. 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:40.000 So on Saturday, we did the Mallor meat greet. We 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:43.880 had a great time, went out, had some app We 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:46.400 were so full from the Mallard chicken fingers. They're so 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:49.920 big that we just had some appetizers and a couple 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:52.400 of drinks and then that was it and called it 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:57.320 a night. Because I had on NFL Sunday, Week ten 0:01:57.560 --> 0:02:02.480 of the NFL season, we had had a four thirty 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:05.280 am wake up call. 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:05.800 Stop it. 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:09.400 Yeah, four thirty am wake up call on a Sunday. 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:11.440 And it wasn't to go to church. Well, it was 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:14.400 the Church of Pigskin is what it was. So get 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:17.120 up at four thirty. Uh, your wife has to get 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:19.760 ready and all that she had to get prepared for 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:22.359 the day. I had to wake up because I was 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:26.880 driving the rental. So we drove and we met up 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:32.200 outside a Bass Pro shop somewhere in Kansas. And I'm 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:36.000 not exactly sure what town in Kansas, but it was 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:40.200 right across the border. So we we meet. The meet 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:43.480 point is the place we meet. The meeting point is 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:46.480 I think we were meeting at six am was the time. 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:48.680 So we left it. The left hotel at five thirty, 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:52.120 got up at four thirty, left hotel at five thirty, 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:57.040 got there at six o'clock. We parked the car and 0:02:57.360 --> 0:03:02.120 I met my friend Bob, the radio guy, and his 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:06.679 buddy Ralph. These are all his friends, so Ralph, his kid. 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:10.920 Bob's family was there, his daughters, his wife. There were 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:13.520 some other people that were there as well that are friends. 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:20.560 And Ralph pulls up in a Kansas City Chiefs mini bus, 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:26.560 which is amazing. It's painted for you know, obviously Chiefs 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:29.840 colors and all that. And this is the tailgate bus. 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:31.640 We're there to tailgate. 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:32.000 Right stop it. 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:35.480 Yeah. So I have been tailgating a couple of times, 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:38.920 but never like this. It's just different. And so we 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:42.320 leave our cars. I guess I shouldn't say that part 0:03:42.360 --> 0:03:44.320 out loud, but we leave our cars outside the bass 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:48.200 Pro shops. Okay, we get on the little short bus. 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:51.680 I've been on a short bus before. I know a 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:54.960 thing or two about short buses. Yeah. So I get 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:57.920 on there and this thing is is painted, it's it's 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:01.800 got the Chiefs Red He's got all kinds of sayings, 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:06.200 Chiefs Kingdom, super Bowl Champions on the side, right and 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:11.640 all that. So we're driving it's still dark out at 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:16.800 at six am, and we're just seeing the sunrise as 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:21.120 we're driving through Kansas back into Missouri, and I watched 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:24.599 the sunrise. We got to Arrowhead. The gates weren't even 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:26.520 open yet we got there. By the time we got 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:31.840 to Arrowhead, it's probably about six thirty or so, six 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:36.880 thirty six forty five. The gates opened at seven thirty 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.120 in the morning. So we're there's a line of cars 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:42.240 to get into tailgates. There's no way at Yeah, this 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:46.400 ridiculous hour it was. It was nuts. So we're waiting 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:51.240 there and Ralph Wreckett, Ralph the guy the different record, Ralph, 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:54.800 not the radio record, Ralph, it's a different record, olaha exactly. 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:58.520 So he's kind of starting up the barbecue in the back, 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:03.040 trying to get the the thing ready and the smoker 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:06.840 hit a smoker, and then we are seven thirty the 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:09.120 gates open. It's a mad dash, right, everyone's you know, 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:12.159 scrambling to get their cars placed and the griddle and 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:16.000 the barbecues out and all that stuff, and you know, 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:17.560 right there, and I didn't have to do anything. I 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:19.599 just sat in the bus. Everyone did everything. You know. 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:21.919 I was just a guest, so I didn't have to 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:26.800 worry about it. And by the gates open at seven thirty. 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:31.960 By eight am, we are ready to go. We are 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:36.240 eating Smokehouse barbecue. I know you don't like barbecue, but 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:39.599 for the rest of us who like barbecue, can my 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:42.279 Bob's favorite barbecue place. Now, when you go to a place, 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:45.160 you've got to go where the locals go. Yes, always, 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:47.920 And I don't live there. My friend Bob Fescal of 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:51.320 the Morning Guy loves Smokehouse barbecue. I just cannot say 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:53.040 enough good things about it. And I was like, oh whatever, 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:55.720 it's probably just like all these other places A dime 0:05:55.760 --> 0:06:01.080 a dozen. And no, I don't even like chili. I 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:06.320 refuse often to eat chili. But they serve barbecue brisket 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:09.440 chili at eight in the morning, and it please the 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:11.840 greatest thing I've ever eaten, no way. And then they 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:15.720 had burnt ends, barbecued burnt ends, which were delicious as well. 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:20.120 And I'm drinking alcohol and eating barbecue and all that, 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:23.160 and I paused my fast. I said rare and appropriate, 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:27.400 and I did a shorter fast and just had a 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:31.920 wonderful time walked around great people watching, Alex, I can imagine. 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:34.720 Are you usually go out to the forest by yourself? 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:35.320 Yes, I don't. 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:38.000 You don't strike me as a people watch like a 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:39.600 human zoo doesn't really interest you? 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:41.280 Am I not anymore? No, you're correct. 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:43.479 It used to like I used to be very enamored 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:46.159 by Disneyland trips here in SoCal or going to the 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:48.960 B Trick, et cetera. But I have It's funny you 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:51.280 mentioned that I have completely one eighty and I prefer 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:54.359 to be exclusively alone or with my lady and we 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:57.080 go do something, but we prefer to do it by ourselves, 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:59.200 like when we go to the Hot Springs or something. 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:01.000 It's on a week day. Like we don't like to 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:03.920 be around other people because it's almost like the energy 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:06.160 conflicts now with where we're going. And especially when you 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:08.279 say people watching, I'm pretty sure I've seen it all 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:09.840 at this point, so there's not much. 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:10.200 More to see. 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:14.080 Yeah, No, I have noticed, like like I think you're 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:16.960 moving more towards like unibomber status where you live in 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:19.160 a shack in Montana. I would love to call me 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:22.440 your hermit's way away from everyone and just send like 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:25.960 explosive letters. I don't know if I'll do that part, 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:28.320 but yeah, I do want my own little place away 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:30.280 from it all. That's self sustainable. I just want to 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:32.320 have my own ecosystem. 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:34.240 Basically off the grid. Oh yeah, absolutely. 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:36.000 Have you picked a state you're gonna move to? 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:37.760 Well, Ben, if it's off the grid, I can't tell 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:38.600 you that, can I? 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:40.800 Well no, I mean you can tell me, okay, because 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:42.440 I mean it's off the grid. I won't be able 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:45.920 to find off the grid around the woods somewhere in Montana. 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:48.480 I mean, I love you, I consider you a friend, 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:50.760 I like you a lot. You're You're important, thank you, 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:54.000 but not that important. I'm not going to the moods 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:54.720 of Montana. 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:56.640 Go on, what if I have brisket at eight am 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:57.000 for you? 0:07:57.120 --> 0:08:01.120 Well, I mean maybe then maybe then will consider it. 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:03.760 But I I'm an introvert, as you know, but I 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:09.400 love from time to time going to Venice Beach and 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:13.240 wandering around and looking at all the weirdos, all the 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:14.840 my fellow human beings. 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:17.440 Right Ben, I'm telling you, this is the one thing 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:20.400 that COVID took from us and it'll never happen again. 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:24.800 Was the three am Walmart trips. Those were where you 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:27.240 could see some of the most interesting people in the world. 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:29.640 Yeah. Well, the good news is even at three in 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:36.360 the afternoon at Walmart, you still see some very interesting, right, 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:39.360 human beings, some very interesting. 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:41.640 Questionable human beings. Are you really human? I don't know 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:42.040 right now. 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:45.840 Yeah, so we we tailgated from eight in the morning 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:50.960 when the foods was served, until about eleven eleven fifteen 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:54.800 Kansas City time. Because being in the Midwest, I'm not 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:57.400 used to this. Obviously, in California and most of my 0:08:57.440 --> 0:08:59.920 experiences on the East Coast or the West. On the 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.120 East coast, the games kick off at one o'clock, but 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:06.559 in Kansas City it's an hour before hour back from 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:09.880 Eastern time. So the game kicked off at noon. And 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:13.439 the Chiefs have been so good. How good have they been? 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:18.040 The Chiefs have been so good that they normally play 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:20.440 later in the day. They normally play at three o'clock 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:25.000 or at seven o'clock. They don't typically play at noon. 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:27.600 So this is like a rare treat. People can get 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:32.320 up early and celebrate and eat and be merry and 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:35.000 drink and all that stuff, and the game starts at noon, 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:39.480 and so we got into the stadium about eleven twenty 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:43.800 or so. Never been to Arrowhead awesome, watched many games 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:48.760 my childhood on big national TV games and saw some 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:52.280 great moments there, certainly recently with the Chiefs. So got 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:57.960 in and settled in. Had seats at the fifty yard line, 0:09:58.120 --> 0:09:59.760 which are I know you're not a football guy, Alex, 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:05.280 those are primo seats. Why primo seats? I got hooked up. 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:09.680 I got spoiled. I did. I got spoiled. Bob and 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:12.400 the guys in Kansas City from ninety six point five 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:16.480 to the fan, they took good care of me, really 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:19.080 good care. So it was. It was awesome at a 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:24.600 great time, and all that watched the game he had 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:28.240 access to. Bob and the station have a luxury box, 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:30.680 so we were able to go in there from time 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:33.960 to time and hang out with some of the executives 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:36.080 from the radio station and some of the you know, 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:38.600 the big advertisers were there and I got to schmooze 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:43.960 and had at a fine time. And the game came 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:47.600 down to the very end and Denver looked like they 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:51.440 were gonna win. It was all set up, and then 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:54.120 the Chiefs blocked the field goal on the final play 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:58.280 of the game and procured a two point win, and 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:02.280 the crowd went wild. It was my my guy, Bob Fesco, 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:06.040 the Morning Guy. I was standing behind him as that 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:10.040 play unfolded. And the thing that I will remember for 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:13.880 years and years is when the Chiefs won the game, 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:19.400 it was like watching one of those televangelists on TV, 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:23.760 because it was it was insane his reacit. It was 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:25.719 like it was like a religious experience, you know what 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:29.600 I mean, You know, as somebody's like shaking feeling joy 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:30.400 and it's like. 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:31.120 There's no way. 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:36.520 Yeah, you get that from if you're really invested in sports, 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:40.240 you get that. And you know, there's not a lot 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:42.080 of things in life that can give you that feeling, 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:43.000 you know what I mean. I mean, I don't know 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:45.640 what you for you like in your world? What what 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:47.040 gives you that kind of feeling? 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:51.360 Maybe out hugging a tree, a fresh redwood that hasn't 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:54.319 been hugged in a while, ye squoia the giant forest 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:56.120 or something like that. Right, I'll be honest with you. 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:57.959 If I see a view for the first time I've 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:00.400 never seen or find like this secret ghetto or a 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:02.560 place that not too many people know about, and I 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:04.720 experienced it on my own, I'd say it's close to 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:05.160 that feeling. 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:08.960 Ben Yeah, all right, well, well fair enough. We had 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:11.840 a great time. It was just perfect, and I was 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:14.400 very worried because we stayed to the very end of 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:16.040 the game. There was some talk we might leave early 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:18.040 if the game was a blowout. If you know, Kansas 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:21.280 City won by lot, lost by a lot, and and 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:25.040 Ralph and the guys because they're regulars, the locals, they 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:27.880 knew which exit to go to. We got out of there. 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:30.600 There was no traffic. I've never been to I've been 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:32.439 to a lot of NFL games of years, I've never 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:34.319 been to one without traffic. 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:38.560 So I don't know how. 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:40.240 They figured that out. But it was, you know, sixty 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:43.880 thousand people all leaving at the same time and no traffic, 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:47.160 which was which was pretty nice, and just that it 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:49.520 just a wonderful day. Went out, had some more barbecue 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:52.760 last night in Kansas City. Drove my wife around a 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:54.400 little bit, showed her some of the places I had 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:59.360 seen on Saturday. Went over, had a had a meet 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:02.000 and greet with my friend Bob at his house over 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:03.760 in Kansas, and we hung out with him and then 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:06.640 got up early and moved back to LA. I flew 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:10.839 back to LA and that was wow. That was that. 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:15.040 So it was just a perfect weekend. And then unfortunately 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:17.920 I came back to LA and I was on a 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:22.000 rocky mountain high or a Kansas City high, and came 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:27.080 back and lost not dead, but many of our colleagues 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:29.800 lost their job unfortunately on Monday. So it was not 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:35.120 not a great day. After a great weekend, I felt 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:36.640 like I was on top of the world. I came 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:39.400 back and I was like, oh boy, can I go 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:41.920 back to Kansas City. It was like that line You're 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:44.559 not in Kansas anymore from Wizard of Oz. I was like, 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:48.080 I'm not in Kansas anymore. I'm in the big city. 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:53.160 And it ain't pretty. It's not not pretty. And if 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:55.640 you missed it, we did have Eddie on the Friday 0:13:55.720 --> 0:14:00.839 podcast chance to do what I thought was a therapeutic 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:06.360 show Alex because in radio, as in, you don't get 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:09.320 a final show now, you never know it's your final show. 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:13.160 It's just your final show. They don't tell you. And 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:16.200 so I didn't get to work with Eddie on Sunday 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:18.000 and the Monday because I was traveling back and I 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:21.240 wasn't doing the show that night. So when I worked 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:24.800 with you the next night, there was no Eddie. The 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:27.800 chair was empty. And so getting to do the show 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:31.080 this week to record an episode of the podcast, it was, 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:33.880 as I keep going back to that word therapeutic, I 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:37.600 can imagine something I needed to do. And you know, 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:40.600 Eddie said he'll come on the podcast from time to time, 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:44.000 so we'll put him on and you'll have a good time. 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:47.120 Now let's get to the mail bag. 0:14:47.280 --> 0:15:06.680 It's thank you very much, ohio Al who sent that 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.400 one in beautiful man sent that in a while ago. 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:13.240 So this is the mail bag, actual letters from actual 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:17.080 consumers of the show. Now I was not going to 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:21.280 start with this, but since you're here this weekend, I 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:25.400 wanted to start with this, producer, Okay, yeah, because this 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:28.040 is right in your wheelhouse, because this is something we've 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:31.520 talked about in the past. This one comes from Mike 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:38.080 who is in Austin, Texas, and Mike says, I want 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:42.680 to know, as a fellow media guy, Ben, what are 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:48.800 your thoughts on what happened to Alex Jones and his 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:54.520 his business info Wars and so, Mike, I don't know 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:57.120 that the masses know this. Maybe they do by now. 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:02.320 This happened several days ago, happened a couple days ago. 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:07.080 But the the story, uh, the the satire website, The Onion. 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:11.160 You've heard of that, right, the Onion. Yes, yeah, the 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:17.840 people that own The Onion have purchased Info Wars. They've 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:25.120 acquired Alex Shones website. Yes, a satirical website. The Onion 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:31.680 has purchased the Info war Wars Empire from Alex Jones. 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:36.080 It was a court ordered auction and all this because 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:39.920 of that lawsuit, the Sandy Hook story years ago, and 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:44.960 the the payment that you know, there's no way Alex 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:47.520 Jones you have that kind of money. Nobody does the 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:50.600 amount of money that has to pay. So so anyway, Uh, yeah, 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:56.680 the Onion purchased info Wars, and Mike asked what I 0:16:56.720 --> 0:17:00.440 thought about I mean, I really haven't thought uh out it. 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:05.399 I know you you've talked about Alex Jones and what he 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:07.679 was able to do by one man. He started that 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:11.720 in the nineties, yeah, and uh, late nineties and built 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:15.200 up a pretty decent sized media company, considering it was 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:18.200 a a mom and pop shop had a lot of followers, 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:23.440 and uh was certainly on the on the fringes. Even 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:25.399 if you love Alex Jones, you would admit he's on 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:30.239 you know, on the fringes. And yeah, he ended up, 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:33.159 you know, saying some things that he should not have 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:37.720 said and about the families of Sandy Hook and was 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:43.760 ordered to pay one point five billion. Imagine that's one 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:44.720 point five billions. 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:46.159 Was he supposed to do any of that? 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:49.440 Yeah? I mean, oh my gosh, there's no chance unless 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:52.560 you're Elon Musk, you know, right, that's just a Tuesday 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:56.760 for him. Yeah. So anyway, so that's it. The the onion, 0:17:56.960 --> 0:17:59.720 I guess is a gag bought bought the info Wars 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:04.000 web site and took him, took him out of business. Wow. 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:06.040 So I really haven't thought about it much, Mike. I mean, 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:08.040 it's you know, it's what happens when you get soon 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:12.280 gets involved in all that stuff. I don't even know 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:15.160 how it works. Could Alex Jones just starts something else up? 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:20.280 I mean I would assume possibly, But yeah, I mean money, Yeah. 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:21.240 That's tough, you know. 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:23.480 I think the thing that sucks the most about it is, like, 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:25.520 as you mentioned, it was a mom and pop right, 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:28.080 So it was before real social media or anything like that. 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:31.439 He started his own brand really about trying to find 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:34.040 truth within a world. And he was one of the 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:37.800 first people to release the videos of Bohemian Grove. This 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:41.399 little secret place in the Sanford Francisco or San Fernando, 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:43.080 San Francisco was Where's Cisco. 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:43.400 Yeah. 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:45.199 Yeah, it's supposed to be like a secret meeting of 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:47.040 the wealthy and the elites, and they have their own 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:50.240 rituals and et cetera. And he was like one of 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:52.000 the first to bring a lot of these things up. 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:54.680 And then he had like such a drive to bring 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:57.879 people's awareness to chemtrails or like one of the most 0:18:57.920 --> 0:18:59.840 prominent things I saw on TikTok and stuff. He's like, 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:02.240 you're making the frogs gay, you know, Like he has 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:05.000 like these little things where he gets so into it 0:19:05.400 --> 0:19:08.040 that I can see why a lot of people were 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:11.199 turned off by him, because there's like a proper and 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:13.080 improper way of doing things. 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:13.240 Ben. 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:15.280 And you know this perfectly because you're in media. You 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:17.320 talk for a living, you talk very well for a living. 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:19.840 That it's how you say things and the way you 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:22.840 say it and what's behind it. So if you're giving 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:25.600 people a lot of things that they've never thought about 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:28.160 or heard, or that's on a deeper level. If you're 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:32.560 yelling and screaming and almost sporading people's eardrums about it, 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:35.359 it can kind of almost like take away from the taste. 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:37.719 It's like if you like spicy food, right Ben, if 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:41.080 it's too spicy, do you really enjoy it then anymore? 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:41.280 You know? 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:43.840 Like so, I it's kind of like a double edged 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:45.560 sword for me because a lot of the stuff he 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:48.280 talked about and I'm by no means like an info 0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:48.680 war fan. 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:50.760 I've never even looked at the website myself. 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:52.679 I just know that a lot of the stuff he 0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:55.880 did talk about had some validity of things to investigate 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:58.760 about food and different chemicals and et cetera, and what's 0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:02.160 going on behind the scenes fifty one, Like it's really interesting. 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:04.840 I like to think outside the box. But again, he 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:07.000 hurt himself because I think he got caught up in 0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:08.840 the whole thing, which a lot of people do in media, 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:11.159 which is the ego that he wanted to be like 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:14.480 always the first one. So like Sandy Hook, it's all fake, 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:16.280 all this this is It's like, Okay, Well, even if 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:19.880 you have this insight or maybe some intel or things. 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:23.040 That you believe. You gotta be careful about certain things. 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:25.200 I mean, we even had something happen here that one 0:20:25.240 --> 0:20:27.200 time with Doug and stuff. You know, like it's it's 0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:30.160 the way you do it, how you say it. And again, 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:33.120 I mean, he could have really been true or right, 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:36.159 but it doesn't matter now because again, the way that 0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:39.240 everything works in the system, et cetera. When you bite 0:20:39.280 --> 0:20:41.600 the hand that feeds Ben, you're only gonna get away 0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:45.159 so long with doing that. And so unfortunately this was 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:48.160 finally something that brought him down and then it almost, 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:50.200 in my opinion, the reason why it does suck again 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:53.359 is that it takes away everything he's done now. So 0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:55.720 it doesn't matter if he really did some good stuff 0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:57.760 or brought up something that should have been talked about. 0:20:58.040 --> 0:20:59.679 This is all that resembles now, and this is all 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:01.639 that'sa and it's it kind of it's it's a lot 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:02.080 of heartbreak. 0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:07.360 Yeah, and the thing that he's obviously on the fringe, 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:10.080 Alice Jones, but he did a lot of stuff like 0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:13.000 Art Bell when I grew up, did stuff, but he 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:16.040 did it in a very calm delivery, and he was 0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:21.360 he would ask questions, yes, quizzing people. But as you said, 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:26.399 the abrasive style the firebrand of Alex Jones, and he was. 0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:31.600 He was intertwining, he was combining like storytelling, and some 0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:35.159 of it was embellishment, but the way he delivered it, 0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:38.240 you couldn't tell what was embellishment. And I learned early 0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:41.760 on in my broadcast career, I had a program director 0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:44.960 who pulled me aside. He kind of taught me the 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:47.399 birds and the bees of of how this works, and 0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:50.359