1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:01,480 Speaker 1: Cut booms. 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 2: If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 2: a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: of the old republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 2: treats crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 2: rich pill poppers in the penthouse. Wow. The Clearinghouse of 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: hot takes break free for something special. The Fifth Hour 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: with Ben Maller starts right now. 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: In the air everywhere. It's a football Sunday, National Football League, 10 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: and this is the unofficial pregame show to your football Sunday. 11 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: Here the Fifth Hour with me, Ben Mahler. Danny g 12 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: is away on assignment on a tropical island, far far away, 13 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: and so in his place we have my friend Alex 14 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: ty Shirt, Alex the vegan as I like footballer. Yeah, you, 15 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: thank you for that. Very nice years. The seventeenth day 16 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: of November and I did not finish the Malard travelog, 17 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: so I wanted to start with that again. I talked 18 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: about the malor meat greet, talked about the barbecue a 19 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: little bit. But on this Sunday morning. Now you've known 20 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: me for a few years now, Alex, you know that 21 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,559 Speaker 1: I am not a morning person doing the overnight show. 22 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: I go to bed in the morning. Yes, I have 23 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: crackhead hours. I don't wake up in the morning for 24 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: anything other than maybe a plane, right, maybe a plane. 25 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: So on Saturday, we did the Mallor meat greet. We 26 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: had a great time, went out, had some app We 27 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: were so full from the Mallard chicken fingers. They're so 28 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: big that we just had some appetizers and a couple 29 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: of drinks and then that was it and called it 30 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: a night. Because I had on NFL Sunday, Week ten 31 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: of the NFL season, we had had a four thirty 32 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: am wake up call. 33 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 3: Stop it. 34 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, four thirty am wake up call on a Sunday. 35 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: And it wasn't to go to church. Well, it was 36 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: the Church of Pigskin is what it was. So get 37 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: up at four thirty. Uh, your wife has to get 38 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: ready and all that she had to get prepared for 39 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: the day. I had to wake up because I was 40 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: driving the rental. So we drove and we met up 41 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: outside a Bass Pro shop somewhere in Kansas. And I'm 42 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: not exactly sure what town in Kansas, but it was 43 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: right across the border. So we we meet. The meet 44 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: point is the place we meet. The meeting point is 45 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: I think we were meeting at six am was the time. 46 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: So we left it. The left hotel at five thirty, 47 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: got up at four thirty, left hotel at five thirty, 48 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: got there at six o'clock. We parked the car and 49 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: I met my friend Bob, the radio guy, and his 50 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,679 Speaker 1: buddy Ralph. These are all his friends, so Ralph, his kid. 51 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: Bob's family was there, his daughters, his wife. There were 52 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: some other people that were there as well that are friends. 53 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: And Ralph pulls up in a Kansas City Chiefs mini bus, 54 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: which is amazing. It's painted for you know, obviously Chiefs 55 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: colors and all that. And this is the tailgate bus. 56 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: We're there to tailgate. 57 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: Right stop it. 58 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. So I have been tailgating a couple of times, 59 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: but never like this. It's just different. And so we 60 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: leave our cars. I guess I shouldn't say that part 61 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: out loud, but we leave our cars outside the bass 62 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: Pro shops. Okay, we get on the little short bus. 63 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: I've been on a short bus before. I know a 64 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: thing or two about short buses. Yeah. So I get 65 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: on there and this thing is is painted, it's it's 66 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: got the Chiefs Red He's got all kinds of sayings, 67 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: Chiefs Kingdom, super Bowl Champions on the side, right and 68 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: all that. So we're driving it's still dark out at 69 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: at six am, and we're just seeing the sunrise as 70 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: we're driving through Kansas back into Missouri, and I watched 71 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: the sunrise. We got to Arrowhead. The gates weren't even 72 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: open yet we got there. By the time we got 73 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: to Arrowhead, it's probably about six thirty or so, six 74 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: thirty six forty five. The gates opened at seven thirty 75 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: in the morning. So we're there's a line of cars 76 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: to get into tailgates. There's no way at Yeah, this 77 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: ridiculous hour it was. It was nuts. So we're waiting 78 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: there and Ralph Wreckett, Ralph the guy the different record, Ralph, 79 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: not the radio record, Ralph, it's a different record, olaha exactly. 80 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: So he's kind of starting up the barbecue in the back, 81 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: trying to get the the thing ready and the smoker 82 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: hit a smoker, and then we are seven thirty the 83 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: gates open. It's a mad dash, right, everyone's you know, 84 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: scrambling to get their cars placed and the griddle and 85 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: the barbecues out and all that stuff, and you know, 86 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: right there, and I didn't have to do anything. I 87 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: just sat in the bus. Everyone did everything. You know. 88 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: I was just a guest, so I didn't have to 89 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: worry about it. And by the gates open at seven thirty. 90 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: By eight am, we are ready to go. We are 91 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: eating Smokehouse barbecue. I know you don't like barbecue, but 92 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: for the rest of us who like barbecue, can my 93 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: Bob's favorite barbecue place. Now, when you go to a place, 94 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: you've got to go where the locals go. Yes, always, 95 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: And I don't live there. My friend Bob Fescal of 96 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: the Morning Guy loves Smokehouse barbecue. I just cannot say 97 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: enough good things about it. And I was like, oh whatever, 98 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: it's probably just like all these other places A dime 99 00:05:55,760 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: a dozen. And no, I don't even like chili. I 100 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: refuse often to eat chili. But they serve barbecue brisket 101 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: chili at eight in the morning, and it please the 102 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: greatest thing I've ever eaten, no way. And then they 103 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: had burnt ends, barbecued burnt ends, which were delicious as well. 104 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: And I'm drinking alcohol and eating barbecue and all that, 105 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: and I paused my fast. I said rare and appropriate, 106 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: and I did a shorter fast and just had a 107 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: wonderful time walked around great people watching, Alex, I can imagine. 108 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: Are you usually go out to the forest by yourself? 109 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 3: Yes, I don't. 110 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: You don't strike me as a people watch like a 111 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: human zoo doesn't really interest you? 112 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 3: Am I not anymore? No, you're correct. 113 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 4: It used to like I used to be very enamored 114 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 4: by Disneyland trips here in SoCal or going to the 115 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 4: B Trick, et cetera. But I have It's funny you 116 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 4: mentioned that I have completely one eighty and I prefer 117 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 4: to be exclusively alone or with my lady and we 118 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 4: go do something, but we prefer to do it by ourselves, 119 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 4: like when we go to the Hot Springs or something. 120 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 4: It's on a week day. Like we don't like to 121 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 4: be around other people because it's almost like the energy 122 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 4: conflicts now with where we're going. And especially when you 123 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 4: say people watching, I'm pretty sure I've seen it all 124 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 4: at this point, so there's not much. 125 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 3: More to see. 126 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I have noticed, like like I think you're 127 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: moving more towards like unibomber status where you live in 128 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: a shack in Montana. I would love to call me 129 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: your hermit's way away from everyone and just send like 130 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: explosive letters. I don't know if I'll do that part, 131 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: but yeah, I do want my own little place away 132 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: from it all. That's self sustainable. I just want to 133 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: have my own ecosystem. 134 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 3: Basically off the grid. Oh yeah, absolutely. 135 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: Have you picked a state you're gonna move to? 136 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 3: Well, Ben, if it's off the grid, I can't tell 137 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 3: you that, can I? 138 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: Well no, I mean you can tell me, okay, because 139 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: I mean it's off the grid. I won't be able 140 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: to find off the grid around the woods somewhere in Montana. 141 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I love you, I consider you a friend, 142 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: I like you a lot. You're You're important, thank you, 143 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: but not that important. I'm not going to the moods 144 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: of Montana. 145 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 3: Go on, what if I have brisket at eight am 146 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 3: for you? 147 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: Well, I mean maybe then maybe then will consider it. 148 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: But I I'm an introvert, as you know, but I 149 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: love from time to time going to Venice Beach and 150 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: wandering around and looking at all the weirdos, all the 151 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: my fellow human beings. 152 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 4: Right Ben, I'm telling you, this is the one thing 153 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 4: that COVID took from us and it'll never happen again. 154 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 4: Was the three am Walmart trips. Those were where you 155 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 4: could see some of the most interesting people in the world. 156 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, the good news is even at three in 157 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: the afternoon at Walmart, you still see some very interesting, right, 158 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: human beings, some very interesting. 159 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 3: Questionable human beings. Are you really human? I don't know 160 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: right now. 161 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, so we we tailgated from eight in the morning 162 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: when the foods was served, until about eleven eleven fifteen 163 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: Kansas City time. Because being in the Midwest, I'm not 164 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: used to this. Obviously, in California and most of my 165 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: experiences on the East Coast or the West. On the 166 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: East coast, the games kick off at one o'clock, but 167 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 1: in Kansas City it's an hour before hour back from 168 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: Eastern time. So the game kicked off at noon. And 169 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 1: the Chiefs have been so good. How good have they been? 170 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: The Chiefs have been so good that they normally play 171 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: later in the day. They normally play at three o'clock 172 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: or at seven o'clock. They don't typically play at noon. 173 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: So this is like a rare treat. People can get 174 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: up early and celebrate and eat and be merry and 175 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: drink and all that stuff, and the game starts at noon, 176 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: and so we got into the stadium about eleven twenty 177 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: or so. Never been to Arrowhead awesome, watched many games 178 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: my childhood on big national TV games and saw some 179 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: great moments there, certainly recently with the Chiefs. So got 180 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: in and settled in. Had seats at the fifty yard line, 181 00:09:58,120 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: which are I know you're not a football guy, Alex, 182 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: those are primo seats. Why primo seats? I got hooked up. 183 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: I got spoiled. I did. I got spoiled. Bob and 184 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: the guys in Kansas City from ninety six point five 185 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: to the fan, they took good care of me, really 186 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: good care. So it was. It was awesome at a 187 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: great time, and all that watched the game he had 188 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: access to. Bob and the station have a luxury box, 189 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: so we were able to go in there from time 190 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: to time and hang out with some of the executives 191 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: from the radio station and some of the you know, 192 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: the big advertisers were there and I got to schmooze 193 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: and had at a fine time. And the game came 194 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: down to the very end and Denver looked like they 195 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: were gonna win. It was all set up, and then 196 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: the Chiefs blocked the field goal on the final play 197 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: of the game and procured a two point win, and 198 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: the crowd went wild. It was my my guy, Bob Fesco, 199 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: the Morning Guy. I was standing behind him as that 200 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: play unfolded. And the thing that I will remember for 201 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: years and years is when the Chiefs won the game, 202 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: it was like watching one of those televangelists on TV, 203 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: because it was it was insane his reacit. It was 204 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 1: like it was like a religious experience, you know what 205 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: I mean, You know, as somebody's like shaking feeling joy 206 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: and it's like. 207 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 3: There's no way. 208 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you get that from if you're really invested in sports, 209 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: you get that. And you know, there's not a lot 210 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: of things in life that can give you that feeling, 211 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I mean, I don't know 212 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: what you for you like in your world? What what 213 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: gives you that kind of feeling? 214 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 4: Maybe out hugging a tree, a fresh redwood that hasn't 215 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 4: been hugged in a while, ye squoia the giant forest 216 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 4: or something like that. Right, I'll be honest with you. 217 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 4: If I see a view for the first time I've 218 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 4: never seen or find like this secret ghetto or a 219 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 4: place that not too many people know about, and I 220 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 4: experienced it on my own, I'd say it's close to 221 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 4: that feeling. 222 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: Ben Yeah, all right, well, well fair enough. We had 223 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: a great time. It was just perfect, and I was 224 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: very worried because we stayed to the very end of 225 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: the game. There was some talk we might leave early 226 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: if the game was a blowout. If you know, Kansas 227 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: City won by lot, lost by a lot, and and 228 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: Ralph and the guys because they're regulars, the locals, they 229 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: knew which exit to go to. We got out of there. 230 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: There was no traffic. I've never been to I've been 231 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 1: to a lot of NFL games of years, I've never 232 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: been to one without traffic. 233 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 3: So I don't know how. 234 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: They figured that out. But it was, you know, sixty 235 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: thousand people all leaving at the same time and no traffic, 236 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: which was which was pretty nice, and just that it 237 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: just a wonderful day. Went out, had some more barbecue 238 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: last night in Kansas City. Drove my wife around a 239 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: little bit, showed her some of the places I had 240 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: seen on Saturday. Went over, had a had a meet 241 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: and greet with my friend Bob at his house over 242 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: in Kansas, and we hung out with him and then 243 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: got up early and moved back to LA. I flew 244 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 1: back to LA and that was wow. That was that. 245 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: So it was just a perfect weekend. And then unfortunately 246 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: I came back to LA and I was on a 247 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: rocky mountain high or a Kansas City high, and came 248 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: back and lost not dead, but many of our colleagues 249 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: lost their job unfortunately on Monday. So it was not 250 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: not a great day. After a great weekend, I felt 251 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: like I was on top of the world. I came 252 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: back and I was like, oh boy, can I go 253 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: back to Kansas City. It was like that line You're 254 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 1: not in Kansas anymore from Wizard of Oz. I was like, 255 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: I'm not in Kansas anymore. I'm in the big city. 256 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: And it ain't pretty. It's not not pretty. And if 257 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: you missed it, we did have Eddie on the Friday 258 00:13:55,720 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 1: podcast chance to do what I thought was a therapeutic 259 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: show Alex because in radio, as in, you don't get 260 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: a final show now, you never know it's your final show. 261 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: It's just your final show. They don't tell you. And 262 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: so I didn't get to work with Eddie on Sunday 263 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: and the Monday because I was traveling back and I 264 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: wasn't doing the show that night. So when I worked 265 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: with you the next night, there was no Eddie. The 266 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: chair was empty. And so getting to do the show 267 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: this week to record an episode of the podcast, it was, 268 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: as I keep going back to that word therapeutic, I 269 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: can imagine something I needed to do. And you know, 270 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: Eddie said he'll come on the podcast from time to time, 271 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: so we'll put him on and you'll have a good time. 272 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: Now let's get to the mail bag. 273 00:14:47,280 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 5: It's thank you very much, ohio Al who sent that 274 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 5: one in beautiful man sent that in a while ago. 275 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: So this is the mail bag, actual letters from actual 276 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: consumers of the show. Now I was not going to 277 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: start with this, but since you're here this weekend, I 278 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: wanted to start with this, producer, Okay, yeah, because this 279 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: is right in your wheelhouse, because this is something we've 280 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: talked about in the past. This one comes from Mike 281 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: who is in Austin, Texas, and Mike says, I want 282 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: to know, as a fellow media guy, Ben, what are 283 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: your thoughts on what happened to Alex Jones and his 284 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: his business info Wars and so, Mike, I don't know 285 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: that the masses know this. Maybe they do by now. 286 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: This happened several days ago, happened a couple days ago. 287 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: But the the story, uh, the the satire website, The Onion. 288 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: You've heard of that, right, the Onion. Yes, yeah, the 289 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: people that own The Onion have purchased Info Wars. They've 290 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: acquired Alex Shones website. Yes, a satirical website. The Onion 291 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: has purchased the Info war Wars Empire from Alex Jones. 292 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: It was a court ordered auction and all this because 293 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: of that lawsuit, the Sandy Hook story years ago, and 294 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: the the payment that you know, there's no way Alex 295 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: Jones you have that kind of money. Nobody does the 296 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: amount of money that has to pay. So so anyway, Uh, yeah, 297 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: the Onion purchased info Wars, and Mike asked what I 298 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: thought about I mean, I really haven't thought uh out it. 299 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: I know you you've talked about Alex Jones and what he 300 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: was able to do by one man. He started that 301 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: in the nineties, yeah, and uh, late nineties and built 302 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: up a pretty decent sized media company, considering it was 303 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: a a mom and pop shop had a lot of followers, 304 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: and uh was certainly on the on the fringes. Even 305 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: if you love Alex Jones, you would admit he's on 306 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:30,239 Speaker 1: you know, on the fringes. And yeah, he ended up, 307 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 1: you know, saying some things that he should not have 308 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: said and about the families of Sandy Hook and was 309 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: ordered to pay one point five billion. Imagine that's one 310 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: point five billions. 311 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 3: Was he supposed to do any of that? 312 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean, oh my gosh, there's no chance unless 313 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: you're Elon Musk, you know, right, that's just a Tuesday 314 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: for him. Yeah. So anyway, so that's it. The the onion, 315 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: I guess is a gag bought bought the info Wars 316 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: web site and took him, took him out of business. Wow. 317 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: So I really haven't thought about it much, Mike. I mean, 318 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's what happens when you get soon 319 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: gets involved in all that stuff. I don't even know 320 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: how it works. Could Alex Jones just starts something else up? 321 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: I mean I would assume possibly, But yeah, I mean money, Yeah. 322 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 3: That's tough, you know. 323 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 4: I think the thing that sucks the most about it is, like, 324 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 4: as you mentioned, it was a mom and pop right, 325 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 4: So it was before real social media or anything like that. 326 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 4: He started his own brand really about trying to find 327 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 4: truth within a world. And he was one of the 328 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 4: first people to release the videos of Bohemian Grove. This 329 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 4: little secret place in the Sanford Francisco or San Fernando, 330 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 4: San Francisco was Where's Cisco. 331 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 332 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's supposed to be like a secret meeting of 333 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 4: the wealthy and the elites, and they have their own 334 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 4: rituals and et cetera. And he was like one of 335 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 4: the first to bring a lot of these things up. 336 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 4: And then he had like such a drive to bring 337 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 4: people's awareness to chemtrails or like one of the most 338 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 4: prominent things I saw on TikTok and stuff. He's like, 339 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 4: you're making the frogs gay, you know, Like he has 340 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 4: like these little things where he gets so into it 341 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 4: that I can see why a lot of people were 342 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 4: turned off by him, because there's like a proper and 343 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 4: improper way of doing things. 344 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: Ben. 345 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 4: And you know this perfectly because you're in media. You 346 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 4: talk for a living, you talk very well for a living. 347 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 4: That it's how you say things and the way you 348 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 4: say it and what's behind it. So if you're giving 349 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 4: people a lot of things that they've never thought about 350 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 4: or heard, or that's on a deeper level. If you're 351 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 4: yelling and screaming and almost sporading people's eardrums about it, 352 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 4: it can kind of almost like take away from the taste. 353 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,719 Speaker 4: It's like if you like spicy food, right Ben, if 354 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 4: it's too spicy, do you really enjoy it then anymore? 355 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 3: You know? 356 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 4: Like so, I it's kind of like a double edged 357 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 4: sword for me because a lot of the stuff he 358 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 4: talked about and I'm by no means like an info 359 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 4: war fan. 360 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 3: I've never even looked at the website myself. 361 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 4: I just know that a lot of the stuff he 362 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 4: did talk about had some validity of things to investigate 363 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 4: about food and different chemicals and et cetera, and what's 364 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 4: going on behind the scenes fifty one, Like it's really interesting. 365 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 4: I like to think outside the box. But again, he 366 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 4: hurt himself because I think he got caught up in 367 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 4: the whole thing, which a lot of people do in media, 368 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 4: which is the ego that he wanted to be like 369 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 4: always the first one. So like Sandy Hook, it's all fake, 370 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 4: all this this is It's like, Okay, Well, even if 371 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 4: you have this insight or maybe some intel or things. 372 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 3: That you believe. You gotta be careful about certain things. 373 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 4: I mean, we even had something happen here that one 374 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 4: time with Doug and stuff. You know, like it's it's 375 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 4: the way you do it, how you say it. And again, 376 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 4: I mean, he could have really been true or right, 377 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 4: but it doesn't matter now because again, the way that 378 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 4: everything works in the system, et cetera. When you bite 379 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 4: the hand that feeds Ben, you're only gonna get away 380 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 4: so long with doing that. And so unfortunately this was 381 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 4: finally something that brought him down and then it almost, 382 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 4: in my opinion, the reason why it does suck again 383 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 4: is that it takes away everything he's done now. So 384 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter if he really did some good stuff 385 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 4: or brought up something that should have been talked about. 386 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 4: This is all that resembles now, and this is all 387 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 4: that'sa and it's it kind of it's it's a lot 388 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 4: of heartbreak. 389 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the thing that he's obviously on the fringe, 390 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: Alice Jones, but he did a lot of stuff like 391 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: Art Bell when I grew up, did stuff, but he 392 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: did it in a very calm delivery, and he was 393 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: he would ask questions, yes, quizzing people. But as you said, 394 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: the abrasive style the firebrand of Alex Jones, and he was. 395 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: He was intertwining, he was combining like storytelling, and some 396 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: of it was embellishment, but the way he delivered it, 397 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: you couldn't tell what was embellishment. And I learned early 398 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: on in my broadcast career, I had a program director 399 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: who pulled me aside. He kind of taught me the 400 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: birds and the bees of of how this works, and 401 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: it was the most important lesson I've gotten in terms 402 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: of liability. And he said, listen, Ben, in this country, 403 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: you cannot be sued for your opinion. So you can 404 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: say whatever you want on the radio or television or 405 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: whatever medium you're on, as long as you say this 406 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: is my opinion, because nobody can sue you for having 407 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: the wrong opinion. But when you report it as fact, 408 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 1: when you reported as this is what happened and it's 409 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: not fact, you've crossed the rubicon, and that's where you 410 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: end up getting in a lot of trouble. So if 411 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: Alex Jones had said exactly what he said but said 412 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: this is my opinion, I don't have any proof this 413 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: is my opinion. He would have never been sued, he 414 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: would have not lost Info Wars, and that would have 415 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: been that that's wild. Yeah, So it's just a simple 416 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: thing you add on in adendum, and it gets you 417 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: out of legal trouble because in any court, you're not 418 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: if you're in media and you give an opinion, you say, 419 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: this is my opinion. And we still have that in 420 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: this country, and we still have that. But the power 421 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: it also goes back to Alex Jones, to the power 422 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: of storytelling. Yes, and how humans have communicated since the 423 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: very beginning of time via stories, right, and if you're 424 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: an orator a communicator, and you have and he's certainly 425 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: not Charles Dickens or Shakespeare, but those are people that 426 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: have been gone for a long time and we still 427 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: reference their work. The great storytellers of our time like 428 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: Lewis Carroll or more modern JK. Rowling, right, Steven Spielberg, 429 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: people like that to tell story, Walt Disney, the modern storytellers. 430 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: So it's it's interesting, but thank you for that, Mike 431 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: steven Tempe writes in he says, Ben, Now I want 432 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: to address this because I've gotten a version of this 433 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: email from like fifteen different people this week. Okay, Ben, 434 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: why didn't you give up some of your multi million 435 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 1: dollar salary to keep Eddie on the payroll. You are 436 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: a selfish asshole and I'm not listening to your show anymore. 437 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: I don't care if you read this email, Steven Tempe. Well, 438 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: thank you, Steve. I appreciate your passion. Now. I love 439 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 1: the fact, Alex, that many people believe that I am 440 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 1: making multiple millions of dollars doing a radio show from 441 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: two am till six am in the morning. 442 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 3: Well, I do see your Bentley Park next to Steve 443 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 3: Harvey's when he's here. Ben, just say. 444 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: Yes, I am Alex. I am genuinely honored and flattered 445 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 1: that you think I make that kind of It really 446 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: warms my cockles that you believe that to be true. 447 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: And I promise you, Steve and all you other wacka doodles, 448 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: that if I did make that kind of money, I 449 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: promise you I would have cut a big fat check 450 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: to Eddie Garcia. And not that it would have mattered 451 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: because they had to get rid of him on the payroll. 452 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: I guess whatever. I don't know how that works, but 453 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: that's not my business. But I would have done everything 454 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: in my power. I unfortunately, I don't want to say 455 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: how much I make. It's not important to say. People 456 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 1: get upset if I say it. But there are jobs 457 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: that some of you have. You make more money than me, 458 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: which is fine. I like my job. That's fine. But 459 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: this misperception, Alex, it's out there, so it's wild. 460 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 3: So that's actually a thing. 461 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: There's a lot of people that think I'm making millions. 462 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: I'm making coward money, Okay, And I promise you, yeah, 463 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 1: that's that's not close sending bu as far from that 464 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: as can be, right. 465 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 4: Dude, one thousand. Even the fact that they think you 466 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 4: had any plot or play to decide any of that 467 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 4: had in that like what yeah? 468 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. Jake from the Bay Area right since says this. Hey, 469 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: he says, been, this bit with Eddie is getting laid off, 470 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: is played out. You need to end to this thing. 471 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: Stop the bit, bring the big Zamboni back. That's from Jake. 472 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: He thinks that this is all a bit. Is it 473 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: a bit, Alex? Is this a bit? Are we doing 474 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: a bit here? 475 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 4: No, to my knowledge, we are not. Because just like you, 476 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 4: I came back on Tuesday after taking Monday off to 477 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 4: be at a hot spring and found out that, yeah, 478 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 4: the entirety of what we knew was no longer the same. 479 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,479 Speaker 1: So yeah, this is our world had fundamentally changed. 480 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 3: Yes, you know. 481 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, anyway, what do we have? Rick writes, and 482 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: he says, I just woke up he wrote this the 483 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: other day. So I browing some coffee, getting ready to 484 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: hear the four am overnight report from Eddie, and I 485 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: hear a different voice did the four am overnight report, 486 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: which I thought was unusual. Then you came back and 487 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 1: you started dancing with an explanation about what had happened, 488 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,239 Speaker 1: and the two had worked together for twenty years. And 489 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: then the dreaded announcement. Now I thought you were about 490 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: to make and you did make it that Eddie was 491 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: no longer on the show. And he said, what the 492 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 1: hell can go wrong? And on a Tuesday, he says, 493 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 1: then he rips the presidential election. He says, firing Eddie 494 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 1: is unconscionable. Well, he got laid off, he didn't get fired, 495 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: which is a technicality, right when you get laid off. 496 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: And it had nothing to do at all with the 497 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: performance of Eddie. 498 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 3: No zero, Freddie's persona and. 499 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: For that matter, everyone that got let go by the company. 500 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 1: This was not a performance based situation at all. And 501 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: I don't know exactly how they make the sausage, and 502 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: nor do I really want to know, But from what 503 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: I've been told is a lot of companies. It's not 504 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: just in radio. We are affected by it because we're 505 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: in radio. Yes, but this is the time of the year, 506 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: in November and December where you clear the books. Yes, 507 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: you get rid of some people off the payroll. Yes, 508 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: because that way it helps you going in the following year. Yes, 509 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: and you keep costs down. And there's reasons for that. 510 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: And so from what I understand, I believe that to 511 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: be the reason this happened. I don't know, Maybe I'm wrong, 512 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 1: Maybe somebody gave me some bad information, which my opinion, 513 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: that's what I've heard, So who knows. But anyway, Rick 514 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: was very upset by this. He said he he's loved 515 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: the show and pucked the world and all of that 516 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: and wants Eddie back. He found the show. He said 517 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: he used to listen to k Fan in Minnesota and 518 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: stop listening because some of the stuff that they were 519 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: doing on the air, and he listens to our show 520 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: and Jonas's show, Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, 521 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: and he says, now what do I do? He says, 522 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: with Eddie being gone, he says, how do I get 523 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: my hockey? Well, Eddie's guy's own podcast, as he talked 524 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: about on Friday, the Puck Podcast. So just listen to 525 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: that and hopefully at some point maybe Eddie will come back. 526 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: I know, Alex, before you worked at the company in nine, 527 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: I was. I was laid off, I was whacked. I 528 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: was still in the a teen January twentieth of nine. Wow. 529 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: I was out of work. And six months and twenty 530 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: six days later they brought me back. 531 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 3: Wow. 532 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: So it does happen, yes time, Yes, all right, Masshole 533 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: Mickey writes, and he says, greeting's been and fellas. I 534 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: really hope you were doing well this weekend after such 535 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: a great trip to Kansas City and then get a 536 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: Mike Tyson punch to the gut and to hear what 537 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:45,959 Speaker 1: happened to Eddie. The militia, as you know, are not happy. 538 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: That is. I've certainly heard the full throated anger, Masshole Mickey. 539 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: He says, my question for you guys is what cheers 540 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: you up when you're sad. I'm sure a lot of 541 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: malle militia could use some advice. All right, Alex, you're 542 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: you're a self help guide. What cheers people up when 543 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: they're sad? 544 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 4: Well, See, that's such a complex and simple question at 545 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 4: the same time, because I think when it comes down 546 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 4: to you realizing that everything doesn't matter, and we give 547 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 4: matter meaning, that's when you start to see things differently 548 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 4: and being so tribilistic as humans, and we get so 549 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 4: caught in the things we love in rotation and humans 550 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 4: by just instinctual nature, we have a hard time letting 551 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 4: go or accepting things end. It's a really tough thing 552 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 4: to find a way to be happy in it. But 553 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 4: I think a simple thing again is just to know 554 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 4: that you should always be happy it happened, even though 555 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 4: it sounds cliche, than not at all. And I think 556 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 4: the beauty is knowing that something so real had a 557 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 4: place to exist. You should take comfort in knowing you 558 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 4: got to experience it rather than never knowing it at all. 559 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 4: That's a big thing for me. 560 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: So nothing matters, yes, but kind of everything does. 561 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 3: Yes. It's crazy right. 562 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: Parallel dimensions, Like nothing really matters in the end because 563 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: we'll all be gone and that. But then at the 564 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: same time. 565 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 4: It's all beautiful in the matters. Yes, wild right, I 566 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 4: love it. So just smile, go outside, put your feet 567 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 4: in the ground, maybe go for a walk, or go 568 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 4: back and re listen to some of your favorite ones. 569 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 4: That's the best way to know it ever happened. 570 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, well it is, it isn't and we listen. Eddie's 571 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: not dead for sure. Yeah, And a lot of people 572 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: seem to think he's dead, but he's not. It's and 573 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: I've tried to explain this, and some of my radio 574 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: friends have been, you know, very very good to me, 575 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: and they point this out over the ears like that, 576 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: there's just it's just a little different the connection that 577 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: you have with like for Eddie's a great example, like 578 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: the radio the magic. Yes, it is not a relative, 579 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: it's not. It's not something you're not gonna like hang 580 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: out with us in real life, although an occasional Mallard 581 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: meet and greets. But yet, and I feel the same 582 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: way about my consumption to media that it is so 583 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: much a part of your being. It's part of your routine, 584 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: you know, you know, radio show, a lot of our 585 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: guys work in factories and they're every night they listen 586 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: for four hours. We like to think we give them 587 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: some solace. So there's that. And then but if you're 588 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,719 Speaker 1: it's you get up. You hear these voices. These are 589 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: voices that are part of your your life. And when 590 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: all of a sudden you don't get that, it's it's 591 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: a body blow, right, it's it really is, and it sucks, 592 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: and it's not fair and and all that and unfortunate 593 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: as the way you know this stuff works, and you 594 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: don't get any warning. Joey the Bellman writes in real quick. 595 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: I know we have much time, he says, Bill Miller 596 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: and Ben Maler could be one of the funniest bits 597 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: you've come up with. Must be tough without Eddie, you 598 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: guys were a great team. Sucks, it's Joey the Bellman. Yeah, 599 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: well that's uh. You know, necessity is the mother of invention. 600 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: And you know Eddie used to do the toss backs 601 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: to me. But Eddie's not there anymore, and they didn't 602 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: replace Eddie. So I'm on my own, and so I 603 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: decided I would go Phil Henry and just make a 604 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: you know, make a I used to do Bill Miller 605 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: back in the day. And I brought Bill Miller back. 606 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 3: That's awesome. 607 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: I brought him back. That's all we have halftime for 608 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: I believe thanks to Mike and Fullerton. I saw alf 609 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: the Alien o'pineer. But we're we're short on time, so 610 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: we gotta get out. I'll be back tonight, God willing. 611 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: I'll be back on the radio eleven o'clock in the west, 612 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: two am in the East with another fresh week of 613 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: the Ben Matler Show. And uh, now what about you 614 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: Alex here you'll be Are you back tomorrow? 615 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 2: La? 616 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: God Willing? 617 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean hey, as of now, that is the plan, 618 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 4: and I plan. 619 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 3: To just do it every day to the fullest. 620 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: All right, And again your podcast, how can people follow 621 00:33:58,640 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: your your work there? 622 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 3: Ben? 623 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 4: Just look up three words Shallow Oceans podcast, because in 624 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 4: a world that seems so vast, it's really not as 625 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 4: deep as you think. 626 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 3: Ben. 627 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: All right, And if you're listening to this early here 628 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: on this Sunday, don't forget Benny Versus the Penny still 629 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 1: available on Peacock and regional cable television. Check that out, 630 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: little gambling show, Benny Versus the Penny, and talk to 631 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: you next time later. Skater