WEBVTT - AFC West Preview + Panthers Problems 

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to NFL Daily, where we are not members of

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<v Speaker 1>the New York Giants. I'm Greg Rosenthal here in the

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Westling podcast studio, ready with my friend Jordan Rodrieg

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<v Speaker 1>to start our division preview series going around the AFC

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<v Speaker 1>West today.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. I'm so excited. This was a fun exercise.

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<v Speaker 1>You haven't even done it yet, but yeah, I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>excited about it too. We're going to put twelve minutes

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<v Speaker 1>on the clock talk about these four teams. We got

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<v Speaker 1>different categories. It's a lot of fun. But as I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned on What was It Wednesday? Show, training cape has

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<v Speaker 1>started for a couple teams, so you know, the first

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<v Speaker 1>couple of days of training camp are a little Panthers

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals heavy. And unfortunately, we start the news with a

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<v Speaker 1>bad injury update out of Carolina, the first team to

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<v Speaker 1>be on the practice field on Thursday morning, and it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't take long until we learned that Nick Scorton was

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<v Speaker 1>carted off the field was in tears and it already

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<v Speaker 1>has been reported that he has a torn right knee

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<v Speaker 1>ACL and that is absolutely brutal. Mike Kay of the

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<v Speaker 1>Charlotte Observer said, if he was listing and this is

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<v Speaker 1>before we knew for sure that it was a torn

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<v Speaker 1>acl the ten players they could least afford to lose,

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<v Speaker 1>this second year ed rusher Nick Scorton would be on

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<v Speaker 1>that list. Why do you think he put Scorrton in

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<v Speaker 1>that level of importance.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he was supposed to be such a huge part

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<v Speaker 2>of their defense, taking another step forward after already taking

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<v Speaker 2>a step forward, especially near the end of last season,

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<v Speaker 2>he was coming along so well. You could see the progress,

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<v Speaker 2>the explosiveness, the speed to power, some of the moves

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<v Speaker 2>he was starting to develop in his arsenal. The way

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<v Speaker 2>he could turn the corner at the end of the

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<v Speaker 2>season to get to the quarterback was really starting. You

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<v Speaker 2>could really see something there. And then they go out

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<v Speaker 2>and they signed Jalen Rager in free agency, me Jalen

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<v Speaker 2>Phillips in free agency, and that tandem was supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be their starting pass rush tandem for them. And this,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this is brutal. And the reporting of how

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<v Speaker 2>distraught teammates were in the moment, I mean, it's just awful,

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<v Speaker 2>awful news.

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<v Speaker 1>First day of camp. That is absolutely brutal. Your heart

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<v Speaker 1>hurts for him. And yeah, he was just a big,

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<v Speaker 1>strong athlete and it's a position where they're rather thin,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're backups. They have Patrick Jones who was with

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<v Speaker 1>the Vikings, kind of a journeyman type, Princely Uman Miellen

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<v Speaker 1>who did not look great as a rookie. They haven't

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<v Speaker 1>had a ton of hits this front office in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of their draft classes, and he was looking like a

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<v Speaker 1>real important core piece. So just something to keep an

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<v Speaker 1>eye on. There are some edges out there in free agency.

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<v Speaker 1>Could we have a Jedevian Clowney reunion every year?

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<v Speaker 2>You think?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it makes a lot of sense. To be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know if Joey Bosa wants to play football again,

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<v Speaker 1>but if he did, this would be a good spot

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<v Speaker 1>because look, they're looking to compete, and that's a devastating news.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the negative news out of Panthers camp. I did

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<v Speaker 1>notice mentioning Mike k though. You know, he put up

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<v Speaker 1>this post on Blue Sky, and I saw our old

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<v Speaker 1>friend Darren Gant, who I used to work with at

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Football Talk, you know, showing different clips and it

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<v Speaker 1>was just a picture if you're watching on YouTube of

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<v Speaker 1>his training camp notebook. I love this stuff. I live

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<v Speaker 1>for this stuff. This is the first day of training

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<v Speaker 1>camp notebooks in any notes, this is Jonathan Brooks's first

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<v Speaker 1>ever participation in a training camp practice in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>He was out there, Jonathan Brooks, who was a high

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<v Speaker 1>pick a couple of years ago and has suffered these

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<v Speaker 1>you know, awful knee injuries and back to back seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>He was out there taking reps with the first team

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<v Speaker 1>after practice. You know, Canalis said he expects, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's back to the old Jonathan Brooks. So there's some

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<v Speaker 1>positivity and just the fact that we're taking training camp notes.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate that we had to start with an injury,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just feel like, Okay, it's our season. We're here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and shout out to Mike k because he also

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<v Speaker 2>writes notes to us the reader of the notes that

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<v Speaker 2>he posts, and I love it this. He does this

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<v Speaker 2>every year's been doing it forever. You note at the

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<v Speaker 2>bottom if you're watching this on YouTube, sorry for the delay.

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<v Speaker 2>Phone service is bad. And I love that stuff. I

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<v Speaker 2>love when you break the fourth wall as a beat

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<v Speaker 2>writer because you're sharing your I just like it. I

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<v Speaker 2>like how personal it feels. He's there, he's taking attendance

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<v Speaker 2>those beat writers in Charlotte. Mike k Joe Person, Darren Gant,

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<v Speaker 2>they are Cassidy Hill. They are taking attendance as well,

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<v Speaker 2>they're checking boxes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's a big thing attendant taking my own word

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<v Speaker 1>that I always admire the attendants taking because I'm when

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<v Speaker 1>I go to a training camp practically, that's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of work to go through and like figure out who's

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<v Speaker 1>there who's not. But that's why they're there every day

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<v Speaker 1>and we just fly in for a day at least

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<v Speaker 1>speaking for myself. So it's Blue Sky Note season, It's

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter note season. A couple other small things as we

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<v Speaker 1>wait to get the AFC West Division preview ready. Nick

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<v Speaker 1>Emon Warri, we found out why he wasn't available to

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<v Speaker 1>practice for the Seahawks. He's on the pup list to

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<v Speaker 1>start training camp. He had ankle surgery this offseason. That

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<v Speaker 1>happened sometime after you know, he did some offseason work

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<v Speaker 1>with the team, so he's probably hoping to avoid it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it happened. They do hope and think that he'll

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<v Speaker 1>be back at some point before the season starts, so

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like they expect him to be back for

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<v Speaker 1>week one. Year Old buddy Jimmy Garoppolo is now putting

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<v Speaker 1>it out there through through the reports that he is

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<v Speaker 1>open to playing again. So it sounds like it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>full in LA. They don't need him with the Rams,

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<v Speaker 1>but he might he might play again.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's I think enough worry about the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>all of the news out of training camp was that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, oh, Ty Simpson and Stetson Bennett are still

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<v Speaker 2>competing with each other, and you're like, you don't trust

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<v Speaker 2>your first round pick to be the backup. No, but

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<v Speaker 2>the the which, by the way, I don't. I think

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<v Speaker 2>we'll we'll see clearly kind of where everyone's at in

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<v Speaker 2>training camp. What I loved about this was that there

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<v Speaker 2>was a lot of reporting and also rumors, and more

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<v Speaker 2>than that, if you're me like thinking about him going

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<v Speaker 2>to the Cardinals, his bond with Mike Lafleur, their their buddies,

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<v Speaker 2>they you know, they've talked about playing together, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in the past. And then this Jacoby Brissette contract, he

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<v Speaker 2>keeps holding out, holding out, holding out. The day after that,

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<v Speaker 2>Jacoby Brissett's like, oh, I'm going to get a raise

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<v Speaker 2>and come back to camp. Then Jimmy Garoppolo is like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm ready to play against Okay, when he was like

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<v Speaker 2>floating retirement rumors. Was it because he didn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>play for the Cardinals? And now, I mean how they

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<v Speaker 2>were a friend.

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<v Speaker 1>You would think you could just say no directly that

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<v Speaker 1>he did. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Men can be real passive aggressive.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fair. And I could see Jacoby and I could

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<v Speaker 1>see Jimmy g not wanting to be a guy disappoint people.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, Jacoby is there. We haven't heard whether he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be out there a practice as of this taping,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not really that concerned with that situation. The

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals also announced that their fourth round pick Caleb Proctor,

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<v Speaker 1>who was a prospect a lot of draft knicks really

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<v Speaker 1>liked as a as a defensive tackle could just shake

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<v Speaker 1>things up from a small school, it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>out for the entire season. We didn't know he was

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<v Speaker 1>hurt earlier in the off seat, that this was a possibility.

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<v Speaker 1>But he is gone. And that's just the little you know,

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<v Speaker 1>bits and bobs from the two teams that are at

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<v Speaker 1>training camp. But training camp, as we know, from hard knocks,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll be watching the Seahawks hard knocks in a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks. Is speech season and I couldn't help

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<v Speaker 1>but notice the Giants put out this series online on

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<v Speaker 1>their website going through their entire offseason, and we got

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<v Speaker 1>a little sneak preview into speech season that on Hard

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<v Speaker 1>Knocks by getting to hear a part of John Harbaugh's

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<v Speaker 1>introductory speech to the New York Giants. Standing up here

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<v Speaker 1>in front of the New York Giants, the New York Giants,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a New York.

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<v Speaker 2>Giants said in this room, the New York Giants.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna be using that all year, the New

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<v Speaker 1>York Giants, and I hope you give me a better

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<v Speaker 1>reaction than those players gave.

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<v Speaker 2>I was trying to sit as you talk, just like

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<v Speaker 2>players in that room.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you say something and you don't get much

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<v Speaker 1>of a reaction, so then you just say the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing again, but louder, the New York Giant.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly how I have my conversations with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Not that far off. Also used to be big news

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<v Speaker 1>with the number one overall pick signs with his team

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<v Speaker 1>right before training camp start, but that's because there used

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<v Speaker 1>to be worry that a guy wouldn't. For whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 1>none of the quarterbacks in this class had signed coming

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<v Speaker 1>into training camp, but Carson Back, the third round pick

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<v Speaker 1>of the Cardinals, just signed before camp, and then Fernando

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<v Speaker 1>Mendoza has officially signed as a member of the Raiders,

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<v Speaker 1>and reportedly there was, you know, some back and forth

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<v Speaker 1>about like how his guaranteed money was going to be paid,

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<v Speaker 1>but it will be paid and it will be paid soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Just imagine that dollar figure, twenty million or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But you think Tom Brady was trying to negotiate that

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<v Speaker 2>he pays it to him in like defunct bitcoin company.

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<v Speaker 1>Or wow or that you know, he puts a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit into his contract that he has to be part

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<v Speaker 1>of his new WWE storyline.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh kill me.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get into our first ever around the AFC West

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<v Speaker 1>or around any division division preview, trying something a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit different. What we're gonna do here. We're gonna put

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<v Speaker 1>twelve minutes on the clock because famously we like to honk,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do think constraints make great art. Saw The

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<v Speaker 1>Odyssey last week and if you would think, oh that

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<v Speaker 1>that was a long movie, but there was some reporting

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<v Speaker 1>that because of the Imax cameras and how the projectors were,

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<v Speaker 1>he knew it had to be under three hours because

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost three hours, but you feel like it could

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<v Speaker 1>be even longer. That thing could be like three and

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<v Speaker 1>a half four hours. They had to speed. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think constraints in general can make great art, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what's going to happen here.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, for the listener, as we sat down, Greg already

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<v Speaker 2>tried to add three minutes. I'm thinking about doing fifteen minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're going to constraints over here.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, either way, it's a constraint. But yes, after the

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<v Speaker 1>AFC West, if I feel like fifteen minutes was a

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<v Speaker 1>better number, we might switch it to fifteen for other

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<v Speaker 1>divisions and we'll get those three minutes back for all

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<v Speaker 1>four of these teams, so it's even at some future dates.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna do some categories for each of the

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<v Speaker 1>teams that I threw out there, but in general, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a free flowing conversation. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about what's bringing us joy. We're going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about something schematically related. I call that scheme dream just

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<v Speaker 1>something you wanted to point out, coaching or schematically. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about the most important non quarterback on

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<v Speaker 1>the team. You can't pick a head coach can't pick

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<v Speaker 1>a quarterback, but who else is important that you want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about. We'll say things will go wrong for

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<v Speaker 1>this team if it's just just kind of biggest concerns.

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<v Speaker 1>If we've got anything left over, I'm calling that a

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<v Speaker 1>little land yap, you know, just a little something extra

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<v Speaker 1>at the end. And then at the end of each

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<v Speaker 1>team we'll kind of talk about the ceiling, the floor

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<v Speaker 1>and at the very end of the show, and you

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<v Speaker 1>got it, that means you gotta stay with us. We

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<v Speaker 1>will make our predictions of how this division is ordered,

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<v Speaker 1>which I hadn't really thought about because to me, it's

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<v Speaker 1>so it's early to be making predictions, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel that strongly about this division. I thought about it

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<v Speaker 1>as I was parking the car to I don't even know.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna see how the vibe hits me during this show.

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<v Speaker 1>But we will go in alphabetical order, Jordan. We will

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<v Speaker 1>ask our great producer Eric Roberts to put twelve minutes

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<v Speaker 1>on the clock right now, and we'll start with the

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<v Speaker 1>Denver Broncos to last year, of course, number one overall seed.

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<v Speaker 1>You were high on them coming into this season. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we thought they were your sleeper team. They win fourteen games.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone knows their one score game record was absolutely outrageous.

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<v Speaker 1>They probably would have made the Super Bowl if bo

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<v Speaker 1>Nicks had not hurt his ankle. Have among the most

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<v Speaker 1>continuity of any team in the entire NFL. I'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to that. What is bringing you joy? Let's start there

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<v Speaker 1>with the Broncos.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it kind of ties into what we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about about scheme dreams and the things that make

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<v Speaker 2>us happy schematically or that we're interested in. But as

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<v Speaker 2>I was going through and I was watching them from

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<v Speaker 2>last season, God, I was thinking about how much I

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<v Speaker 2>loved watching Corland Sutton play. I just think he's always now.

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<v Speaker 2>I know he's not slept on just collectively in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of like the analyst community and all of that, but

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<v Speaker 2>some of the catches he made, some of the connection

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<v Speaker 2>between he and bo Nicks, especially down the back stretch

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<v Speaker 2>of the season, and then sometimes Bonis would be a

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<v Speaker 2>little streaky, but then Courtland Sutton would just sort of emerge,

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<v Speaker 2>right and just be this prototypical receiver that we think,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, what we think about when we think about

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<v Speaker 2>like a Sean Payton offense essentially, And I started thinking about,

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<v Speaker 2>first of all how joyful I am to be watching

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<v Speaker 2>that again, and how we're probably going to get even

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<v Speaker 2>more of that because of the addition of Jalen Waddle.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I think about when I think of

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Payton offense as an especially wide receiver, rooms that

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<v Speaker 1>he's very good at having different types and then finding

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<v Speaker 1>the right roles in Courtland Sutton is that Tecmo Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl type where they do that close up of him

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<v Speaker 1>just rising over the receiver, and it matches up really

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<v Speaker 1>well with what bon Nicks does well, which is I

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<v Speaker 1>think he throws to the outside, well, he throws it

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<v Speaker 1>deep well, better than we expected I think coming into

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<v Speaker 1>the league. And so that's a great shout. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think having Wattle there and then maybe Totons a one,

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<v Speaker 1>B or A two, and then suddenly the battle for three,

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<v Speaker 1>which is Troy Franklin, Pat Bryant, Marvin Mims, like they're

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<v Speaker 1>all in better spot. So I love that for bringing

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<v Speaker 1>this straight. My idea for bringing me joy is more

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<v Speaker 1>of just the build in general. It is an old

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<v Speaker 1>school team build, and going through their projected starting lineup,

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed that the entire offensive line has been on

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<v Speaker 1>this team for at least four seasons and they've started

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<v Speaker 1>together for three seasons. The center Luke Wattenberg, who was

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<v Speaker 1>there before but he was on the team out, has

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<v Speaker 1>been starting for three years. You know, you got McGlinchey,

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<v Speaker 1>you got Garrett Boles who's gotten better, Quinn Minors is

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<v Speaker 1>in all pro. Wattenberg's really emerged as a good young center.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, wow, that's how you want to build an

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line. And Sean Payton's so good at and then

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the entire defensive line. They've all been

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<v Speaker 1>on the team for at least three years as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, Jonathan Franklin Myers left, that was one of

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<v Speaker 1>their big departures. We'll get into the addition's departures during

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation, but everyone else that's there, including Malcolm Roach

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<v Speaker 1>who's probably stepping in, has been there any You could

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<v Speaker 1>even go back to their linebackers and Justin Strenat and

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Singleton, they've all been there. So this is a

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<v Speaker 1>team and you look at the lines first. I think

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<v Speaker 1>when looking for good teams that has been together for

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<v Speaker 1>so long, it is so rare and so hard to

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<v Speaker 1>do that in the NFL. And it's a mix. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like half draft picks half not somewhere here before these

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<v Speaker 1>this GM some some not a lot of pickups, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty impressive how they've kept this group together on

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<v Speaker 1>both sides.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think what I A lot of people were

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<v Speaker 2>sort of laughing or questioning, and rightfully so. It's rare

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<v Speaker 2>when you see in free agency a team like the

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<v Speaker 2>Broncos that don't do anything right. They did nothing until

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<v Speaker 2>you know, much later in the waves of that period,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they went out and got Jalen Waddle, right,

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<v Speaker 2>who will contin you talk about a minute. But the

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<v Speaker 2>reason why is because they're built like this. The reason

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<v Speaker 2>why is because they have an above average player at

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<v Speaker 2>at least all of those positions across on either side

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<v Speaker 2>of the line, if not a very very good player,

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<v Speaker 2>and then around them they have continuity. It is what

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<v Speaker 2>really opens them up. I think on the defensive side,

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<v Speaker 2>for Vance Joseph the defensive coordinator to be very very

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<v Speaker 2>comfortable throwing so much heat, but in simplistic format like

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't. He doesn't do a lot of things that

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<v Speaker 2>are when teams play as much man coverage, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>as the Broncos do, which is the most in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 2>he can also drop them into zone, and he's not

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<v Speaker 2>sending like these crazy he blitzes. But he's not sending

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<v Speaker 2>like these exotic pressures all the time or doing things

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing relatively, I don't want to say simple, because

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<v Speaker 2>it's NFL and the NFL is hard, but they're not

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<v Speaker 2>sitting there and they're basically saying, our guys can beat

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<v Speaker 2>your guys, and we're gonna throw some crazy stuff at

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<v Speaker 2>you sometimes, but other times we're just gonna sit back

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<v Speaker 2>and let our guys beat your guys because we can

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<v Speaker 2>rush our entire front.

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<v Speaker 1>So I know, you know, throwing this category in here

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<v Speaker 1>is dangerous scheme dream we could just lose for it

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<v Speaker 1>in for the next ten minutes. Stop that maya that scheme,

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<v Speaker 1>but no, I'm really excited as something that you wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to point out schematically that interests you with this team.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I love that you mentioned it. You've also

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned it on Quarterback Casting Call earlier this year, Greg

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<v Speaker 2>about Bonnick's allergy to the middle of the field. Really

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<v Speaker 2>does not like to throw to the middle of the field.

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<v Speaker 2>It was something like nineteen percent or sixteen percent of

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<v Speaker 2>his throws overall actually were designed to be into the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the fields as intended by the concept and

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<v Speaker 2>not just him working out of structure or dumping things off.

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<v Speaker 2>And Jalen Wattles addition, people, I think when you first

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<v Speaker 2>think about all that speed, you think, oh, more perimeter

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<v Speaker 2>attack for Bonnicks, more burner speed. And you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>majority of Jalen wattles routes last season with the Dolphins

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<v Speaker 2>were vertical, right like he would at least start them vertically.

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<v Speaker 2>But his in breakers, where his second most volume of routes,

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<v Speaker 2>run at thirty eight point five percent per next Gen Stats.

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<v Speaker 2>And he gets there fast. And that's what I think

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<v Speaker 2>is the key here. He runs those in breakers and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not talking just like slants, you know, I'm talking

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<v Speaker 2>deeper digs. I'm talking middle of the middle range digs.

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<v Speaker 2>And he gets there so fast that I think that

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<v Speaker 2>builds your confidence as a quarterback when you are in

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<v Speaker 2>an offense that wants to play faster, as Davis Webb

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<v Speaker 2>says he wants to do. When you're in a space

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<v Speaker 2>where you want to diversify what you have in your

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<v Speaker 2>past game and where you're targeting those voids in the field,

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<v Speaker 2>you have a Courtland Suttlent Sutton who can then get

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more single coverage down the field. Jalen

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<v Speaker 2>Wattle just not only opens up pretty much anything because

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to align him anywhere. He also I think

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<v Speaker 2>starts to heal that middle of the field target share,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that really opens up everything else for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I want this to be a place if you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been totally locked in this offseason, that you do

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<v Speaker 1>get updated about the big news that's happened with each team. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>trading for Jalen Wad was was an incredible, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>show of intent by this team. So was Sean Payton

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<v Speaker 1>giving up play calling to Davis Webb.

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<v Speaker 2>Shocking, He just like blew everyone's mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we'll see how that goes and we'll talk about it,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure throughout the course of the season. My schematic

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<v Speaker 1>thing I'm kind of keeping an eye on is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the one spot this does not look like a Sean

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<v Speaker 1>Payton team has been the running game, right. He just

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<v Speaker 1>has not had the same consistent running game that he

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<v Speaker 1>had when he was in New Orleans. They bring back JK. Dobbins,

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<v Speaker 1>They draft Jonah Coleman, who is a good mid round pick.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's something I want to see them figure out

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's with the pace, innovatively, whatever they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do to improve that running game. And then I'm also

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<v Speaker 1>just wondering, and this could go and things go wrong

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<v Speaker 1>if and what we'll switch to that here that you

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<v Speaker 1>know as vance, Joe's gonna still be able to keep innovating,

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<v Speaker 1>still have his fastball. It is just tough for a

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<v Speaker 1>defensive coordinator who's been on a heater for year after

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<v Speaker 1>year and you saw maybe just at times that not

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<v Speaker 1>be as effective last year all the blitzeing, but for

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<v Speaker 1>the most part it was. So he's going to have

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<v Speaker 1>to like keep innovating, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it is go a little more I mean, he

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<v Speaker 2>does blitz, but maybe it is go a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more funky, a little bit more crazy, because it's not

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<v Speaker 2>simple what he does at all, let me be clear.

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<v Speaker 2>But they just have better dudes, right, So then let

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<v Speaker 2>your players play and play in those mixed coverages, whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's man or zone like they like to do. I

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<v Speaker 2>can see why you fall into something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And part of that things could go wrong if Jonathan

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper is suspended. So he was arrested a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>times this offseason, for a domestic assault allegations. I asked around,

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody knows if he's going to get suspended. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a world where the Broncos just let him go.

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<v Speaker 1>That hasn't happened in the past. The NFL has often

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<v Speaker 1>waited for the legal process to play out, So it

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<v Speaker 1>might not play out before this season. That's just a

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<v Speaker 1>question mark. But he is a strong first step number

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<v Speaker 1>two pass rusher to Nick Benito, who's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>very best in the league and kind of fits what

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<v Speaker 1>they do. And if you have to like pick knits

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<v Speaker 1>for this entire team build, it's maybe the backups on

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive side we just haven't seen much from. There's

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<v Speaker 1>some younger mid round picks we haven't seen much. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little thin edge, so that those are a

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<v Speaker 1>handful of things all connected that things could go wrong

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<v Speaker 1>with you don't have Cooper if they're just a little

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<v Speaker 1>thin on the defensive side and then injuries hit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's top heavy teams who aren't necessarily thinking

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<v Speaker 2>that they have to replenish every year in the draft

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<v Speaker 2>or they need to find starters in the draft. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>they will operate like this, right, you just don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what the backups are forty nine ers who kind of

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<v Speaker 2>been in this I would say, quote unquote trouble for

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<v Speaker 2>the past. I mean aon basically. I mean I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's a little bit more of an exaggerated version of this,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think this, you know, this is a really

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<v Speaker 2>serious situation and still has a lot to play out.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm interested to see how they recalibrate in camp because

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<v Speaker 2>it's almost like, Okay, you've got more defensive backs and

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<v Speaker 2>more corners than you know what to do with at

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<v Speaker 2>this point, and you got more corners than you have

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<v Speaker 2>spot to play them at this point, and you're really

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<v Speaker 2>still questioning what's going to happen with some of the

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<v Speaker 2>peer pressure that they're bringing when they want to rush,

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<v Speaker 2>like out of base or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>We were already through ten minutes, which means we're going

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<v Speaker 1>the most important non quarterback and I'll just I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>quick on this, which is like it's it is pat

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<v Speaker 1>Certan to me. Yeah, they're so deep in the secondary

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<v Speaker 1>that they don't even have a starting spot right now.

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<v Speaker 1>For today, Baron we talked about his battle with Riley Moss,

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<v Speaker 1>like and yet if Sirtan is in Certan and just

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<v Speaker 1>making everyone better around him in the secondary. Like the

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<v Speaker 1>secondary I think is what helps make this team really special.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the safeties too, but it only makes sense

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<v Speaker 1>when you have potentially the best cover corner in the

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<v Speaker 1>entire NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>In certan, Yeah, I mean, I'm going to go with

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<v Speaker 2>the offensive line because overall, I think it's the best

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<v Speaker 2>offensive line in football. It has been for a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years now. That also means you mentioned it in

0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:53.280
<v Speaker 2>scheme dream got to run the ball better. Number nineteen

0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:56.960
<v Speaker 2>in rushing dboa last season. That is not befitting of

0:21:57.000 --> 0:21:59.439
<v Speaker 2>what they want to do with this offense, and that

0:21:59.560 --> 0:22:03.680
<v Speaker 2>makes Jonah Coleman accidentally became very very important work. Lots

0:22:03.680 --> 0:22:07.000
<v Speaker 2>of buzz around this fourth round rookie locally and obviously JK.

0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:09.680
<v Speaker 2>Dobbins and RJ. Harvey are still the leaders there. They

0:22:09.720 --> 0:22:11.640
<v Speaker 2>need more from that entire group, and so I make

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<v Speaker 2>them maybe the most important.

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<v Speaker 1>The Brogress fans were mad that JK. Dobbins like wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>ranking in the top twenty on some of the things

0:22:16.800 --> 0:22:19.200
<v Speaker 1>that were down to a minute here my land yapp here,

0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:22.680
<v Speaker 1>which is just something a little extra some buzz. Jared

0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Stidham might lose his backup quarterback job to Sam Ellinger.

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<v Speaker 1>How about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I have it in my notes. This is the team

0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:32.000
<v Speaker 2>that should go get Jimmy Garoffolo to play backup quarterback

0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:34.600
<v Speaker 2>for them because we all watched you, Jared Stidham in

0:22:34.680 --> 0:22:37.960
<v Speaker 2>that game last year. Much respect to your career overall,

0:22:38.000 --> 0:22:39.640
<v Speaker 2>but my goodness, my friend.

0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:41.360
<v Speaker 1>That was tough. Yeah, it was a tough situat. I mean,

0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:43.720
<v Speaker 1>Drake Bay wasn't that much better. It was a tough,

0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:46.639
<v Speaker 1>tough weather day. Justin Strnad, who is one of our

0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:50.000
<v Speaker 1>friend Dolly Connolly's very favorites as a rush linebacker, has

0:22:50.000 --> 0:22:51.679
<v Speaker 1>a much bigger role now as a starter. They got

0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:54.600
<v Speaker 1>rid of Drake Greenlaw if our listeners missed that. And

0:22:54.640 --> 0:22:57.960
<v Speaker 1>then I just noted with the opening schedule they have

0:22:58.960 --> 0:23:05.600
<v Speaker 1>the three NFC West teams plus the Chargers and the

0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:08.399
<v Speaker 1>Chiefs and the Jaguars in the first six weeks of

0:23:08.440 --> 0:23:11.320
<v Speaker 1>the season. That is brutal. I mean that is five

0:23:11.560 --> 0:23:13.720
<v Speaker 1>playoff teams for you go, three of the best teams

0:23:13.720 --> 0:23:16.760
<v Speaker 1>in the league from the NFC West. That's crazy. Let's

0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:18.679
<v Speaker 1>wrap up. We're at the end of our twelve minutes,

0:23:19.000 --> 0:23:21.119
<v Speaker 1>but we'll go over with our ceiling and our floor

0:23:21.119 --> 0:23:22.800
<v Speaker 1>for the team, it is sort of I mean, we

0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:24.120
<v Speaker 1>haven't done the ceiling floor part.

0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I think this is the best team

0:23:26.000 --> 0:23:26.920
<v Speaker 2>in the AFC West.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and then so what's the floor you think? So

0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:33.159
<v Speaker 1>then you think it's more like a while the floor.

0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:34.960
<v Speaker 2>Is they can't run the ball and the quarterback gets hurt,

0:23:35.000 --> 0:23:35.480
<v Speaker 2>and it's more of.

0:23:35.440 --> 0:23:38.480
<v Speaker 1>A okay, yeah, I'm trying to take getting major players

0:23:38.480 --> 0:23:40.280
<v Speaker 1>injured because we could say that for everything, because I

0:23:40.280 --> 0:23:41.080
<v Speaker 1>did think about.

0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:43.919
<v Speaker 2>That too for every tea. I think with everyone healthy,

0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:46.040
<v Speaker 2>still that's the floor because if they can't run the ball,

0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:48.159
<v Speaker 2>better teams are just going to start kying on them

0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:48.600
<v Speaker 2>way more.

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<v Speaker 1>So, I think judging about what you're saying, like, even

0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:53.679
<v Speaker 1>in a worst case scenario, as long as they have

0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:56.080
<v Speaker 1>good health, you see them as a playoff yes, and yeah,

0:23:56.160 --> 0:23:58.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean I think the ceiling is winning the super Bowl.

0:23:58.280 --> 0:24:00.600
<v Speaker 1>It's not that it's the same one of the teams

0:24:00.600 --> 0:24:02.959
<v Speaker 1>that could do it. I think in this division they

0:24:02.960 --> 0:24:05.119
<v Speaker 1>could be a third place team, though I don't think

0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:09.040
<v Speaker 1>it's that crazy to imagine them in that spot. If

0:24:09.080 --> 0:24:10.760
<v Speaker 1>just a couple of the things we talked similar to.

0:24:10.720 --> 0:24:13.119
<v Speaker 2>The NFC West last year. I think this year is the.

0:24:13.119 --> 0:24:16.200
<v Speaker 1>AFC and it's tough. If you're the third place team

0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:18.000
<v Speaker 1>in your division, it's tough to make the playoffs. You

0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:20.960
<v Speaker 1>can do it, but you're back in that spot where

0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:22.520
<v Speaker 1>they were a couple of years ago, where you're like

0:24:22.600 --> 0:24:24.520
<v Speaker 1>on the road in the Week one against a good

0:24:24.520 --> 0:24:28.600
<v Speaker 1>team like the Bills. It's time for the offseason ride

0:24:28.640 --> 0:24:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Along presented by Toyota. It's tough division and that's because

0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:37.399
<v Speaker 1>it includes the defining team of the last decade. The

0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Kansas City Chiefs had one of the best seven year

0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:46.000
<v Speaker 1>runs of all time in the NFL. Maybe it's right there.

0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:49.399
<v Speaker 1>Three titles, two more conference titles where they lost the

0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl, and two more conference championship losses. So they

0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:55.680
<v Speaker 1>came up one year short of what I thought was

0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:58.000
<v Speaker 1>the most unbreakable record in the entire NFL, which was

0:24:58.040 --> 0:25:01.440
<v Speaker 1>the Patriots eight straight conference It's championship game appearance. You're

0:25:01.440 --> 0:25:03.520
<v Speaker 1>in the final four eight straight years. They were one short.

0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:06.440
<v Speaker 1>They win six games. Last year. They were bad even

0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:09.640
<v Speaker 1>before Mahomes tears his ACL And so I really do

0:25:09.720 --> 0:25:12.560
<v Speaker 1>look at that as like the beginning of something. Is

0:25:12.600 --> 0:25:16.720
<v Speaker 1>this the start of a new Chiefs era or do

0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:18.480
<v Speaker 1>we end up looking at at last year as like

0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:20.560
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a blip when you look at

0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:24.040
<v Speaker 1>them overall, We'll start with what's bringing joy in terms

0:25:24.080 --> 0:25:24.840
<v Speaker 1>of their situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, like anyone with healthy boundaries, Greg, I decided to

0:25:28.240 --> 0:25:31.760
<v Speaker 2>reframe your question and say, what helps me keep my

0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:34.199
<v Speaker 2>joy as it pertains to the Kansas City Chiefs, and

0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:36.680
<v Speaker 2>it is just solely focusing on the idea of getting

0:25:36.680 --> 0:25:41.000
<v Speaker 2>a healthy Patrick Mahomes back. Then stop right there. Okay,

0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:42.880
<v Speaker 2>don't think about what the run game may or may

0:25:42.880 --> 0:25:43.439
<v Speaker 2>not look like.

0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh this doesn't sound joy.

0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:47.200
<v Speaker 2>Don't think about the receiver's room, that the tight ends

0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:49.520
<v Speaker 2>room maybe stagnant. Just don't think about sounds.

0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:50.600
<v Speaker 1>I think that could go wrong.

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:53.359
<v Speaker 2>All I'm saying is I'm keeping my joy and I'm

0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:58.040
<v Speaker 2>thinking about what healthy Patrick Patrick Mahomes returning means for football,

0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:01.119
<v Speaker 2>for our fun level, for our excitement, for our joy.

0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:02.359
<v Speaker 2>And that's where I stop.

0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:06.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad we had a good media conversation about Mahomes

0:26:06.880 --> 0:26:10.040
<v Speaker 1>on the Quarterback Island casting call, so everyone checked that

0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:12.040
<v Speaker 1>out from Wednesday. So I don't want to repeat myself.

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 1>But what's bringing me joy for this team specifically is

0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:19.160
<v Speaker 1>them being in a different spot, like we were getting

0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:21.600
<v Speaker 1>a little bored. I was getting a little bored. And

0:26:21.680 --> 0:26:24.639
<v Speaker 1>it's these all time greats. Three guys who I think

0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:27.359
<v Speaker 1>are obviously Mahomes and Andy Reid are going to the

0:26:27.400 --> 0:26:29.760
<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame. I think Steve Spagnola should, yeah one day.

0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:32.320
<v Speaker 1>And it's three guys Chris Jones you could throw on

0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:35.240
<v Speaker 1>that list too, who are in just a different position

0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:38.720
<v Speaker 1>that they're having to kind of box their way out

0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:44.680
<v Speaker 1>of lowered expectations, a lesser roster, and just a year

0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:47.760
<v Speaker 1>to go. Show us like, wow, they really are different.

0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Because if they come back this year and they win

0:26:49.560 --> 0:26:51.520
<v Speaker 1>the division, or they win twelve or thirteen game, they're

0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:55.240
<v Speaker 1>winning in the play, it's just it's just pretty unprecedented

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:59.200
<v Speaker 1>what they've accomplished. But there's more doubt coming into this season,

0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:02.840
<v Speaker 1>and that kind of variants gets me excited. I know,

0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:04.840
<v Speaker 1>schemes get you excited. And so I'm going to go

0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:08.600
<v Speaker 1>first on scheme dream why not? And it's how spags

0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:11.159
<v Speaker 1>is going to deploy this new secondary. Yeah. So they

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:15.440
<v Speaker 1>drafted Mansor de Laine in the top ten and they

0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 1>bring in a lowie. Gilman is going to be at

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:19.800
<v Speaker 1>safety at Nickelback, they have Cater Kohu. They don't have

0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Trent McDuffie anymore, but they drafted a couple guys. Kennedy

0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:27.240
<v Speaker 1>is another player, and then bring back Lagerius Snead who

0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:29.520
<v Speaker 1>had some great years for them before he went to Tennessee.

0:27:29.880 --> 0:27:33.440
<v Speaker 1>And so they were pretty middling last year. They weren't

0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:37.000
<v Speaker 1>as effective with the blitz. In the end, Spegnolo kind

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:38.480
<v Speaker 1>of figured it out to where they were like a

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:41.480
<v Speaker 1>plus defense, but not a great defense. And so I

0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 1>want to see how Spags uses this secondary, including like

0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:45.359
<v Speaker 1>a top ten pick.

0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:49.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that's a great choice because he's like

0:27:49.200 --> 0:27:52.199
<v Speaker 2>our he did it again kind of guy, where you know,

0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:54.840
<v Speaker 2>it's like, oh, give him, give him your draft picks

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 2>and your rookies and he will turn them into the best,

0:27:57.320 --> 0:27:59.800
<v Speaker 2>one of the best, and most terrible to play if

0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:03.400
<v Speaker 2>you're offense. Defense is in the entire NFL and has

0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:06.359
<v Speaker 2>that reputation for a reason. I think something that goes

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:08.960
<v Speaker 2>part and parcel with what you're saying is I don't

0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:10.840
<v Speaker 2>know if they can rush the passer from the edges.

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:13.719
<v Speaker 2>I still am not sure about that. But when they

0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:16.080
<v Speaker 2>brought in like Kyrie's Tanga for example, who was my

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:19.119
<v Speaker 2>most important non quarterback on this team because of what

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:23.120
<v Speaker 2>this defense looks like on paper. Greg it's because he

0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:27.119
<v Speaker 2>is supposed to and has the expectation of being able

0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:30.000
<v Speaker 2>to free up Chris Jones because he's acquiring more of

0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:31.920
<v Speaker 2>the double teams. Chris Jones was like at a thirty

0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:35.240
<v Speaker 2>eight percent double team rate. Kyrie's Tanga didn't play every

0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:38.040
<v Speaker 2>snap he's for the Patriots and missed a game or two,

0:28:38.440 --> 0:28:42.000
<v Speaker 2>but he also was double teamed like on half of

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:43.880
<v Speaker 2>the snaps that he did play, So he's going to

0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 2>be eating up that extra attention. If you can rush better,

0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:49.320
<v Speaker 2>even if you could move the pocket better like they

0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:52.320
<v Speaker 2>want to with Chris Jones from the interior, your secondary

0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:54.680
<v Speaker 2>is going to be better. Your life is not as

0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:57.200
<v Speaker 2>hard for those young guys. Steve Spagnolo has a has

0:28:57.200 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 2>a better table set for him. So I can see

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:01.840
<v Speaker 2>the I'm a little dubious.

0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:04.560
<v Speaker 1>I can see the vision, but I was surprised Tonga

0:29:04.600 --> 0:29:07.200
<v Speaker 1>got such a big contract, especially from a team that

0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have a lot of money to spend, Like he's

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:11.360
<v Speaker 1>a twenty five to thirty snap a game guy for

0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:15.600
<v Speaker 1>the Patriots, but he was really emerging. Yeah, and it's

0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 1>a body type and it's a it's a position that

0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 1>tends to age well and get better. Chris Jones, like

0:29:23.960 --> 0:29:27.200
<v Speaker 1>his cap figure is so big. That was a contract

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:29.120
<v Speaker 1>that they almost felt like they had to give. But

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:32.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's bigger than Patrick Mahomes. It's way higher

0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:34.920
<v Speaker 1>than anyone else at the position. And you mentioned, yeah

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:36.880
<v Speaker 1>that the edge spot is one of my things that

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:39.240
<v Speaker 1>could go wrong, which is you have Carl Loftis, who's

0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:42.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of an average player, maybe a little above average,

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:44.240
<v Speaker 1>on a big contract too. And then at the other

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:46.280
<v Speaker 1>spot is one of the position battles. I never got

0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 1>to with CHOOKI was our Mason Thomas is like sneaky important.

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:52.600
<v Speaker 1>He's a second round pick and he's going to be

0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:56.840
<v Speaker 1>batting Ashton Jilotti, their old first round pick. Felix in

0:29:56.920 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 1>a d que Zama and those guys they just haven't

0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:04.479
<v Speaker 1>hit for Brett Beach. He needs someone to hit our

0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:05.240
<v Speaker 1>Mason Thomas.

0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:08.719
<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe because Felix and you said it better than

0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:12.240
<v Speaker 2>I will just hasn't. Injury has been some of it,

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:13.400
<v Speaker 2>but just been underwhelming.

0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Did you have a scheme dream?

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:17.920
<v Speaker 2>By the way, I do, And I'm really excited about it. Okay,

0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:20.480
<v Speaker 2>Kenneth Walker obviously being there, they think that's going to

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 2>fix so much of the offense and offense by the way,

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:26.360
<v Speaker 2>which I can't wait to watch some of the clips

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:28.040
<v Speaker 2>that we're going to get out of training camp because

0:30:28.040 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 2>I want to see how much Patrick Mahomes is under

0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:32.320
<v Speaker 2>center with Eric Banemy back and some of that twenty

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 2>twenty two stuff that they did that really worked. But

0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:37.520
<v Speaker 2>also because Kenneth Walker said in the off season he

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:40.160
<v Speaker 2>prefers to run from under center because he has so

0:30:40.320 --> 0:30:43.240
<v Speaker 2>much more of a vision on the defensive backfield and

0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 2>on the linebackers when he can do that so he

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:47.960
<v Speaker 2>can set up He's very artistic the way that he runs.

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 2>But I mentioned it the other day and I was

0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 2>really hoping to get into a bar with you with

0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 2>him on screens my favorite play from last year, A

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:57.640
<v Speaker 2>couple of my favorite plays from last year where the

0:30:57.640 --> 0:31:00.360
<v Speaker 2>Seattle Seahawks featuring Kenneth Walker as the past at your

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:04.120
<v Speaker 2>on screens, he had the highest second highest EPA on

0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 2>screen passes of any running back who caught at least seven.

0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 2>It's a small sample size for running backs on screens.

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:13.440
<v Speaker 2>I understand that, Yeah, he made magic happen when he did,

0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 2>because he runs he treats it like he's running outside zone.

0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 2>So even if they change some of their blocking, even

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:21.160
<v Speaker 2>if they change some of the under center and the plan,

0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:24.200
<v Speaker 2>even if they do those different things, they I suspect

0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:26.160
<v Speaker 2>are going to treat the especially because of the way

0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:30.120
<v Speaker 2>Kenneth Walker runs these screen passes and as an extension

0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 2>of how he hits those layers to the perimeter on

0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:37.239
<v Speaker 2>outside zone runs, and he is absolutely so visual and

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 2>like he's an artist when he does it. So I'm

0:31:39.720 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 2>really excited, and I think it's why they didn't do

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:43.560
<v Speaker 2>more with their tight ends. I think it's why they

0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 2>didn't do more with their receivers because they think of

0:31:45.800 --> 0:31:47.280
<v Speaker 2>how much of a factor he's going to be in

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:47.880
<v Speaker 2>the passing game.

0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:50.880
<v Speaker 1>I picked Chris Jones as my most important non quarterback,

0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:53.720
<v Speaker 1>but I think Kenneth Walker would also fit. They're really

0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:57.560
<v Speaker 1>counting the lot yes on Kenneth Walker because Patrick Mahomes

0:31:57.600 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 1>is not going to be able to run as much

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:01.680
<v Speaker 1>as he did a year ago coming off that torn

0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:04.959
<v Speaker 1>acl look. The Seahawks had some seasons where they were

0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:07.440
<v Speaker 1>counting a lot on Kenneth Walker too, and he didn't

0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:11.560
<v Speaker 1>always come through like everything wasn't his Super Bowl MVP performance.

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 1>He hasn't been like the guy the guy, and they

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:15.960
<v Speaker 1>were a team last year that was still good running

0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:18.880
<v Speaker 1>in short yardage, but they had no explosiveness. They bring

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:21.280
<v Speaker 1>back Eric b Enemy, So again, if you're just kind

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:24.760
<v Speaker 1>of tuning in, you know, they're long time offensive coordinator

0:32:24.960 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 1>who hasn't been with the team for a few years.

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:29.400
<v Speaker 1>They're expecting his return to help the running game, to

0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:32.600
<v Speaker 1>help the details, to help the offense. And I think

0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 1>that could happen and all connected to that. My number

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 1>one thing is things could go wrong. Of where things

0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:40.040
<v Speaker 1>would go wrong is if the offensive line is an

0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:43.400
<v Speaker 1>elite and this is my way of saying, I think

0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:47.040
<v Speaker 1>they could be elite, you know, like if you're creating

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 1>a path for them to win the division, to go

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:52.440
<v Speaker 1>deep in the playoffs, it's that the offensive line is

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 1>the best in the league or close to it. I

0:32:55.280 --> 0:33:00.560
<v Speaker 1>think that's a reasonable thing to hope for Josh Simmons.

0:33:00.600 --> 0:33:03.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, he has the potential. We'll see could he

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:05.960
<v Speaker 1>be the next like Laramie Tunzel type of player, Like

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 1>I think he could. We'll see it. They already have

0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:10.720
<v Speaker 1>an all prone in Creed Humphrey. They have a guard

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:12.959
<v Speaker 1>they love in Trey Smith's who Mattea got better. They

0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:15.920
<v Speaker 1>have a highly paid right like with the enemy there

0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:20.200
<v Speaker 1>if their elite, everything else gets like, yeah, those wide

0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 1>receivers that we don't love, they look better. Mahomes's injury

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 1>is less of a big deal. The running game like

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:27.760
<v Speaker 1>they could, they hold the ball more. Everything is better,

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 1>and I think it's possible that, to me is the

0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:32.240
<v Speaker 1>route to them being the Chiefs again.

0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:34.760
<v Speaker 2>The one red flag I have about this because I

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:37.480
<v Speaker 2>think true and I you know me, I came in

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:42.080
<v Speaker 2>here fired up last offseason a Josh Simmons believer saying

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:44.120
<v Speaker 2>a team is going to get an absolute steal on him.

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:46.360
<v Speaker 2>It so far looks that way other than you know,

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:48.200
<v Speaker 2>you need to count on him for a full season,

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:50.480
<v Speaker 2>and so that's that's a factor after you missed part

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 2>of last season with personal stuff going on. My red

0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:57.560
<v Speaker 2>flag is right tackle right, because everyone, all the local

0:33:57.560 --> 0:34:00.400
<v Speaker 2>beat writers are talking down there right now out how

0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:03.640
<v Speaker 2>Jalen Moore is actually going to have competition. Andy Reid

0:34:03.720 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 2>is not. Maybe it's a motivational thing. Andy Reid has

0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 2>not just said this is our starting five and Jalen

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Moore is.

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 1>They're paying in fifteen million dollars right.

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:13.760
<v Speaker 2>He came from seeing and Asapol and even Khalil Benson

0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:17.799
<v Speaker 2>were actually thought to be legitimately in the mix for

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:20.840
<v Speaker 2>that job, and so this is going to be interesting.

0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:24.759
<v Speaker 2>They say that at Kansas City Chief training camp, you

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:27.160
<v Speaker 2>could pretty much tell right away in the early days

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:31.360
<v Speaker 2>of the practices because they're so grueling. Basically who Andy

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:34.160
<v Speaker 2>Reid wants there full time. I think it's probably rare

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:36.680
<v Speaker 2>that someone loses their job after they start out that

0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:38.640
<v Speaker 2>way if they if they perform well, so we'll know

0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:40.520
<v Speaker 2>very soon about what that will look like.

0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do worry about that a little bit. They've

0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:46.319
<v Speaker 1>been able to coach it up over the years. It's

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:48.120
<v Speaker 1>been a little more up and down the last few years.

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:50.320
<v Speaker 1>My most important ne quarterback, as I mentioned was, was

0:34:50.400 --> 0:34:53.520
<v Speaker 1>Chris Jones, just because the way their team salary cap

0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 1>structure is, they just don't have superstars on defense. Delane

0:34:57.160 --> 0:35:00.279
<v Speaker 1>maybe could be that guy. His play was a little

0:35:00.360 --> 0:35:02.560
<v Speaker 1>down last year, but not that far down, like he

0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:05.560
<v Speaker 1>was averaging about eighty eighty five pressures a season in

0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:08.680
<v Speaker 1>the regular season. In the three years before that, he

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:11.560
<v Speaker 1>was down to sixty eight last year, like just down,

0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:15.200
<v Speaker 1>but not that far down. They just have to have

0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 1>him be incredible and so that's why he's important. Where

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:20.359
<v Speaker 1>was did you have a things go wrong? If as

0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:21.279
<v Speaker 1>we get well.

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:23.640
<v Speaker 2>I think I've kind of said it as I've gone

0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:25.000
<v Speaker 2>I do want to tell you it's sort of a

0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 2>land yap kind of thing.

0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:26.759
<v Speaker 1>Let's go.

0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:30.920
<v Speaker 2>It's just this trickeration that Andy Reid likes to do.

0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:32.880
<v Speaker 2>It goes back to Mike Kenneth Walker and our point

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:34.719
<v Speaker 2>that how much of a factor he's going to be

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 2>in the offense. There are certain things that Kenneth Walker

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:40.760
<v Speaker 2>does and that they could design with him. In Seattle

0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 2>last year, that one really set up bait essentially, and

0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:48.319
<v Speaker 2>we often see past blockers bait the rusher. We see

0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 2>that all the time, blitz pick ups, things like that.

0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:52.480
<v Speaker 2>There's a play a twenty yard gain in the first

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 2>quarter of Seahawks forty nine ers in Week eighteen. He

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 2>fakes like he's going to pick up the blocker, a

0:35:57.040 --> 0:35:59.680
<v Speaker 2>totally typical, you know, fake blitz pick up where you're

0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 2>baiting the delayed rusher. It's because they saw that San

0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:06.040
<v Speaker 2>Francisco was going to send an extra rusher late. So

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:09.920
<v Speaker 2>delayed Blitz, so Kenneth Walker basically just like swung open

0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:12.120
<v Speaker 2>the door for that guy just popped out in the

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:14.000
<v Speaker 2>middle and there was like a little he had to

0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 2>sell it. It was a trickeration almost like he had

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:18.520
<v Speaker 2>to he had to really commit to it, step out

0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:20.719
<v Speaker 2>of the way of the train just in time. And

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 2>then they obviously have the math advantage on that side

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:25.719
<v Speaker 2>for the screen the tunnel screen at that point because

0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:28.719
<v Speaker 2>he has numbers back into the pocket trying to get

0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:31.480
<v Speaker 2>to the quarterback. That's like tricky stuff. That's the way

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:33.400
<v Speaker 2>you have to sell those things. Andy Reid and Patrick

0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:37.040
<v Speaker 2>Mahomes love that stuff. That was my little land yep

0:36:37.080 --> 0:36:39.759
<v Speaker 2>of like, oh, I could really see that working there

0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:42.440
<v Speaker 2>if it worked in Seattle with Sam Darnold, like with

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Patrick Mahomes and the ballsmanship, like I could one hundred

0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:46.880
<v Speaker 2>percent see that working.

0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:49.520
<v Speaker 1>It used to be a cliche what's Andy Reid gonna

0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:52.000
<v Speaker 1>show early in the season that everyone is going to

0:36:52.080 --> 0:36:54.799
<v Speaker 1>stop start copying? Like what's Andy Reid got in his

0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:59.080
<v Speaker 1>back pocket in September? Not saying you know he's getting

0:36:59.120 --> 0:37:01.560
<v Speaker 1>older here, but has he had that the last few years?

0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. We're out of time but like we

0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:07.680
<v Speaker 1>could use Andy Reid, like getting some schematic groove back

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:10.239
<v Speaker 1>because on the show, I don't think they're the most

0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 1>talented team in the world. All right. I guess how

0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:14.880
<v Speaker 1>we're doing it now is like we use the twelve

0:37:14.880 --> 0:37:17.360
<v Speaker 1>minutes to talk Eric and then we do the ceiling floor.

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:19.719
<v Speaker 2>At what did I say? What did I say of it?

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:25.600
<v Speaker 1>This connor Or our friend at Sports Illustrated, And he

0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:28.319
<v Speaker 1>had the call I saw as I'm walking through the

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:34.560
<v Speaker 1>newsroom on Wednesday that Fox Sports has a whole segment

0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 1>about connor Or wrote down fourteen teams for Sports Illustrated

0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:40.440
<v Speaker 1>that have a chance to win the Super Bowl, and

0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:42.759
<v Speaker 1>he did not have the Chiefs as one of his.

0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:45.760
<v Speaker 2>Ohoh so you know who? I bet that made mad

0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:46.640
<v Speaker 2>Nick right?

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:48.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and yeah, they had a whole segment about it.

0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:52.640
<v Speaker 1>That's why I know I disagree with Connor. They would

0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:54.840
<v Speaker 1>be on my list of teams that could win the

0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl. And that is almost entirely in my almost

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:03.239
<v Speaker 1>blind faith in Patrick Mahomes and him being able to

0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:07.040
<v Speaker 1>prove a lot of people wrong when you least expect it, Andy,

0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Andy Reid and enough talent still there. So the ceiling

0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:14.360
<v Speaker 1>to me is that's the very high ceiling. But I

0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 1>think winning the division is a realistic goal. It is

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:21.040
<v Speaker 1>more likely that they become a normal team, and a

0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:23.920
<v Speaker 1>normal team. It's like, we're fighting to make the playoffs,

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:26.280
<v Speaker 1>and there's a world where we don't make the playoffs.

0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:30.799
<v Speaker 1>But whether they are still the Chiefs Capital Chiefs like

0:38:30.840 --> 0:38:32.880
<v Speaker 1>we will find out. I don't think that's the most

0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:33.520
<v Speaker 1>likely outcome.

0:38:33.640 --> 0:38:37.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think they're a worst team collectively over all

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:40.120
<v Speaker 2>in their build than the Denver Broncos or the Los

0:38:40.160 --> 0:38:43.120
<v Speaker 2>Angeles Chargers, So that automatically puts their floor super low

0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:46.919
<v Speaker 2>for me because of the division that they're in. Right,

0:38:47.400 --> 0:38:50.640
<v Speaker 2>But I have in my notes once again, this team

0:38:50.680 --> 0:38:53.360
<v Speaker 2>will go as far as Patrick Mahomes takes them. The

0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:56.359
<v Speaker 2>thing that so many of those teams that are sort

0:38:56.360 --> 0:39:00.920
<v Speaker 2>of middle right don't have are an exceptional, extraordinary quarterback.

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:03.280
<v Speaker 2>And so for me, if he's right, if he stays

0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:07.840
<v Speaker 2>right like that is there's no limit to what's possible

0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:09.120
<v Speaker 2>when he is your quarterback.

0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:11.360
<v Speaker 1>And yet, yeah, coming off of torn acl you just

0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:14.080
<v Speaker 1>glance over that, like, we don't know for sure that

0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:16.080
<v Speaker 1>he's back week one. We don't know what he's going

0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:18.960
<v Speaker 1>to be like during the season. That's what we expect.

0:39:19.080 --> 0:39:21.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, we've seen great quarterbacks come back from torn

0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:25.080
<v Speaker 1>acls and not quite be the same, including you know,

0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:27.040
<v Speaker 1>the guy who has the closest career to him, Tom

0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Brady was was not wasn't bad, but it wasn't quite

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:30.840
<v Speaker 1>his best.

0:39:30.719 --> 0:39:32.399
<v Speaker 2>Go had to change his play style a little bit in.

0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Two thousand and nine and it was one of the

0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:37.080
<v Speaker 1>only season they won eleven games, but they did not

0:39:37.120 --> 0:39:39.719
<v Speaker 1>make the playoffs that year with Tom Brady. That was

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<v Speaker 1>your people. Let's talk about the Loss Vegas Raiders. Oh my, Now,

0:39:56.440 --> 0:39:58.920
<v Speaker 1>if you haven't been paying attention, this was one of

0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:02.640
<v Speaker 1>the most active teams. Not only did they sign NFL

0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Daily guests Clint Kopiak to be their coach, you know,

0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:07.479
<v Speaker 1>right after we talked to him after the Super Bowl,

0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:11.960
<v Speaker 1>but they signed Tyler Linderbaum, big time center, like reset

0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 1>the market. They replaced like who was it at linebacker

0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:21.799
<v Speaker 1>last year that it was ridiculous? Was playing like oh

0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:24.560
<v Speaker 1>the void, yes, just a total void. And then you

0:40:24.840 --> 0:40:27.840
<v Speaker 1>give a lot of money to Nikobe Dean and Kuay Walker.

0:40:27.880 --> 0:40:30.520
<v Speaker 1>They somehow kept Max Crosby by mistake after trying to

0:40:30.560 --> 0:40:32.680
<v Speaker 1>trade them. They now have a surplus of passers. They

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:35.799
<v Speaker 1>signed Quitty pay. They brought back Mountain Koont's like a

0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:38.359
<v Speaker 1>lot of off season moves. They signed Jalen Naylor, who

0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:40.840
<v Speaker 1>was a receiver with the Vikings, w will play a

0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:43.520
<v Speaker 1>big role here. So this is a team that was

0:40:43.640 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 1>very active. They look a lot different than they did

0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:51.319
<v Speaker 1>when they ended last season the new look Raiders. What's

0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:52.000
<v Speaker 1>bringing you joy?

0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:54.520
<v Speaker 2>I like watching a bad team try to get good.

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:58.760
<v Speaker 2>That really you. I love team building. I love team building.

0:40:58.880 --> 0:41:02.200
<v Speaker 2>I like chananging processes. I like trying to understand how

0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:05.440
<v Speaker 2>processes are changing, how coaching methods are changing, which I

0:41:05.440 --> 0:41:07.840
<v Speaker 2>think is a big one here. Just I think that

0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:10.280
<v Speaker 2>this scheme lifts a lot of players that are already

0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:12.840
<v Speaker 2>on the roster, which we'll get to. But just like

0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:15.680
<v Speaker 2>I just like watching. We don't know how this is

0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:18.680
<v Speaker 2>gonna go. I like watching a bad team try to

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:19.280
<v Speaker 2>get good.

0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:22.880
<v Speaker 1>And it's interesting because they kept their GM. John Spytech, what.

0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:24.719
<v Speaker 2>Does that say about me psychologically? No?

0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 1>I think that makes you gave me a little concern. Look,

0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:31.600
<v Speaker 1>you're into the front office. Maybe you can imagine if

0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:33.800
<v Speaker 1>you were going to be somewhere in the NFL, it

0:41:33.840 --> 0:41:36.280
<v Speaker 1>would be in the front office. You like the process,

0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:37.080
<v Speaker 1>you love process.

0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:38.440
<v Speaker 2>I do love process, and.

0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Part of the Raiders process was to keep John Spytech,

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:45.359
<v Speaker 1>who was the GM, and so they actually did keep

0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:47.680
<v Speaker 1>a decent amount of their players from last year in

0:41:47.760 --> 0:41:49.560
<v Speaker 1>terms of like the middle class, but they brought in

0:41:49.600 --> 0:41:52.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot of money. What's bringing me joy is just Mendoza.

0:41:52.200 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean he is a walking ball of joy. True's

0:41:54.640 --> 0:41:57.160
<v Speaker 1>I got too carried away. This is a franchise that

0:41:57.239 --> 0:41:58.760
<v Speaker 1>just hasn't had a lot of hope. I know Derek

0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:02.319
<v Speaker 1>Carr was a franchise quarterback, but I never believed in

0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:05.239
<v Speaker 1>him as a difference maker. As a difference maker, I

0:42:05.320 --> 0:42:09.000
<v Speaker 1>just didn't. This is I don't think people realize how

0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:11.440
<v Speaker 1>bad the Raiders have been for a team that is

0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:13.760
<v Speaker 1>I would say the second most popular team in the NFL.

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:18.640
<v Speaker 1>They have had a winning record twice since they made

0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:20.520
<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl. That was in two thousand and two.

0:42:21.400 --> 0:42:21.919
<v Speaker 1>Do the math.

0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:23.440
<v Speaker 2>How old were you during that?

0:42:23.520 --> 0:42:27.680
<v Speaker 1>I was ten, I was I don't know, twenty three

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:30.799
<v Speaker 1>or something. Yeah, like that was twenty two years ago,

0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:36.840
<v Speaker 1>twenty three years ago, they've had a winning record twice. Yeah,

0:42:36.880 --> 0:42:41.000
<v Speaker 1>like Mendoza just he gives him a chance. That the

0:42:41.480 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 1>word is that Kirk Cousins is gonna be the quarterback

0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:47.239
<v Speaker 1>all year. I just don't believe that. If he looks good,

0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:50.319
<v Speaker 1>we'll see, Like and I just don't believe Kirk Counins

0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:52.359
<v Speaker 1>would even stay healthy for an entire year anyways. They

0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:54.360
<v Speaker 1>know that in the back of their head. By the way, anyways, like,

0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:56.600
<v Speaker 1>what are the odds that Kirk Cousins at this age

0:42:57.600 --> 0:42:59.840
<v Speaker 1>stays healthy? What keeps you going? When it comes to

0:42:59.880 --> 0:43:00.640
<v Speaker 1>the scheme.

0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:01.960
<v Speaker 2>Well party, I mean, Colton Miller is going to be

0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:04.359
<v Speaker 2>back in terms of protection, but in particular, it seemed

0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:06.040
<v Speaker 2>like some of the moves that they did make, including

0:43:06.080 --> 0:43:09.560
<v Speaker 2>Tyler Linderbaum, was specifically for to help buoy the run.

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:12.360
<v Speaker 2>And obviously that's a young quarterback's best friend, having a

0:43:12.400 --> 0:43:14.960
<v Speaker 2>center like that. But he's supposed to help grade the road.

0:43:14.960 --> 0:43:18.279
<v Speaker 2>He's not necessarily known for his past protection, right, so like.

0:43:18.280 --> 0:43:20.920
<v Speaker 1>He will help I've heard road grader. I don't know

0:43:20.920 --> 0:43:22.279
<v Speaker 1>if I've ever heard grade the road.

0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:26.319
<v Speaker 2>That's the active verse. Yeah, that's the active.

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:28.239
<v Speaker 1>Sid I think, where are you going, Tyler? I'm going

0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:29.280
<v Speaker 1>to go grade the road.

0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Grade the road. Hey, I think that for me, I'm

0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:35.640
<v Speaker 2>really curious about, Like you mentioned that middle class of players.

0:43:35.960 --> 0:43:38.839
<v Speaker 2>I think that there are some traits that they seem

0:43:38.880 --> 0:43:41.479
<v Speaker 2>to draft for that didn't make sense at all once

0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:43.799
<v Speaker 2>we saw what Chip Kelly's scheme actually was going to be,

0:43:44.239 --> 0:43:47.560
<v Speaker 2>including some of the receivers, Jack Besch being a prime

0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:50.040
<v Speaker 2>example of that, who sort of projected as like this

0:43:50.160 --> 0:43:51.919
<v Speaker 2>power slot who's going to do a lot of work

0:43:51.960 --> 0:43:56.080
<v Speaker 2>away from the ball. That is what a Kubiak family

0:43:56.320 --> 0:43:59.600
<v Speaker 2>offense is going to ask of the receiver, and certainly

0:43:59.600 --> 0:44:01.919
<v Speaker 2>of the type although I think they're gonna use brock

0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Bowers in every way possible. But that is what I'm

0:44:05.440 --> 0:44:07.920
<v Speaker 2>curious about. Can this scheme, and that's probably what they're

0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:10.360
<v Speaker 2>waiting to see, is can this scheme elevate some of

0:44:10.400 --> 0:44:13.480
<v Speaker 2>the skill guys that otherwise would have wasted draft picks on.

0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:15.680
<v Speaker 1>Ashton Genty was a top ten pick last year that

0:44:15.760 --> 0:44:17.680
<v Speaker 1>might have been more of a Peak Carroll pick, and

0:44:17.760 --> 0:44:21.759
<v Speaker 1>yet they could maximize him with their offensive line. If

0:44:21.760 --> 0:44:24.280
<v Speaker 1>you're looking for a ray of hope, this maybe doesn't

0:44:24.880 --> 0:44:28.160
<v Speaker 1>fit into any particular category, but they drafted a couple

0:44:28.239 --> 0:44:30.759
<v Speaker 1>guys in the third round last year on the offensive line.

0:44:30.760 --> 0:44:33.239
<v Speaker 1>They got playing time late last season sitting what was it,

0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:36.319
<v Speaker 1>Caleb Rogers, another one this year in trade soon. You

0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 1>look at the offensive line in general, Jackson powers Johnson

0:44:40.120 --> 0:44:43.080
<v Speaker 1>is there. You have Colton Miller, you have Linderbaum, you

0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:46.920
<v Speaker 1>have dj gl like you have depth. I think if

0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:50.480
<v Speaker 1>John Spytech can feel quietly good about something related to

0:44:50.480 --> 0:44:53.120
<v Speaker 1>the team build, he's like, this offensive line might be

0:44:53.239 --> 0:44:58.040
<v Speaker 1>something that we have fail safes. If there's injuries, it's

0:44:58.080 --> 0:44:59.839
<v Speaker 1>going to be an identity people don't know. Maybe it's

0:44:59.880 --> 0:45:02.080
<v Speaker 1>our identity yet, kind of like with his old team,

0:45:02.120 --> 0:45:04.759
<v Speaker 1>the Bucks, like it was quietly built into their identity.

0:45:05.120 --> 0:45:09.279
<v Speaker 1>And that makes everyone skill position wise better, including gent

0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:11.799
<v Speaker 1>who didn't wow me last year, and including all the

0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:15.160
<v Speaker 1>receivers you mentioned Jack Besh. It's a pretty underwhelming receiver group.

0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:18.759
<v Speaker 1>It's Jack Best, Trey Tucker, and Jalen Naylor as their

0:45:18.800 --> 0:45:22.000
<v Speaker 1>top three wide receivers. Bowers is their one, and you

0:45:22.040 --> 0:45:23.680
<v Speaker 1>have Michael Mayer at tight end too, So you have

0:45:23.760 --> 0:45:25.640
<v Speaker 1>some depth, but it's not a lot of star power.

0:45:25.640 --> 0:45:28.160
<v Speaker 2>I think, and again talking sematically, you have to give

0:45:28.200 --> 0:45:32.040
<v Speaker 2>those guys a second job. Those guys have to exist

0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:36.160
<v Speaker 2>in large part to spring your talent skills open and

0:45:36.320 --> 0:45:38.560
<v Speaker 2>Ashon Janty in the past game is a talent skill,

0:45:39.000 --> 0:45:42.880
<v Speaker 2>and especially some of those like heavy power screens that

0:45:42.920 --> 0:45:45.600
<v Speaker 2>you would see Clint Kubiak run at the start of

0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:47.719
<v Speaker 2>last season and then went away from it because people

0:45:47.719 --> 0:45:51.960
<v Speaker 2>were starting to scout them loading up in twelve personnel

0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:54.960
<v Speaker 2>four by one with both of your tight ends and

0:45:55.040 --> 0:45:57.840
<v Speaker 2>your heavy power slot in Cooper Cup on the one side.

0:45:57.880 --> 0:46:00.600
<v Speaker 2>My favorite play I saw all last season, and it's

0:46:00.640 --> 0:46:03.200
<v Speaker 2>a screen and they layer it out all down the

0:46:03.200 --> 0:46:05.560
<v Speaker 2>field like they're doing a micro version of an outside

0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:08.880
<v Speaker 2>zone run, and it's Kenneth Walker just like skipping his

0:46:08.920 --> 0:46:12.919
<v Speaker 2>way down the field freely, untouched. Ashton Jenty can run

0:46:12.920 --> 0:46:16.920
<v Speaker 2>in space. I trust him maybe less, you know, I

0:46:17.000 --> 0:46:18.560
<v Speaker 2>just need to see more. I need to see more.

0:46:18.680 --> 0:46:20.440
<v Speaker 2>But he can run in space, and I think that

0:46:20.480 --> 0:46:21.880
<v Speaker 2>is where you're gonna try to maximize it.

0:46:21.960 --> 0:46:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, you talk about road Grady, and I think this

0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:26.520
<v Speaker 1>is a good looking offensive line in terms of running

0:46:26.520 --> 0:46:29.560
<v Speaker 1>the ball. No running back in the league maybe was

0:46:29.640 --> 0:46:32.480
<v Speaker 1>less suited than Ashton Gendy to deal with that terrible

0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:35.600
<v Speaker 1>offensive line because ultimately he's not Kenneth Walker. He's not

0:46:35.600 --> 0:46:37.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna make you miss in a phone booth. He is

0:46:38.040 --> 0:46:40.680
<v Speaker 1>going to run you over. He will get broken tackles

0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:43.200
<v Speaker 1>and miss tackles, but he needs a little bit of

0:46:43.200 --> 0:46:47.080
<v Speaker 1>a runway, like a Derrick Henry for him to do

0:46:47.200 --> 0:46:49.160
<v Speaker 1>his best. And I think they could be that type

0:46:49.160 --> 0:46:52.040
<v Speaker 1>of offensive line. My scheme dream here is just pointing

0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:54.759
<v Speaker 1>out who their defensive coordinator is. It's thirty eight year

0:46:54.880 --> 0:46:57.840
<v Speaker 1>year old Rob Leonard, who they know because he was

0:46:57.840 --> 0:47:00.440
<v Speaker 1>on the staff and they decided to keep him. But

0:47:00.560 --> 0:47:04.920
<v Speaker 1>he's never called plays before, and I think quietly it

0:47:05.040 --> 0:47:08.799
<v Speaker 1>was a big loss, you know, changing defensive coordinators because

0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:15.000
<v Speaker 1>as average as their defensive you know performance was a

0:47:15.040 --> 0:47:18.520
<v Speaker 1>year ago. I actually think they were pretty well coached up.

0:47:18.680 --> 0:47:21.960
<v Speaker 1>And so you have a first time coordinator in Rob Leonard,

0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:23.960
<v Speaker 1>who's going to have to show he has more talent

0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:26.960
<v Speaker 1>to work with. I mentioned up front, you know they're

0:47:27.040 --> 0:47:29.600
<v Speaker 1>much better. They're pretty deep in terms of their pass rush.

0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Now with Crosby.

0:47:30.520 --> 0:47:33.239
<v Speaker 2>Kept Max Crosby, right, you kept Max Case.

0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:36.920
<v Speaker 1>You're under a Rosby and you're paying a lot of

0:47:36.920 --> 0:47:39.759
<v Speaker 1>money at linebackers that could go a few directions, but

0:47:40.160 --> 0:47:41.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, we got to see it's a guy who's

0:47:41.680 --> 0:47:43.080
<v Speaker 1>never done it before in Rob Leonard.

0:47:43.200 --> 0:47:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Yes, double edged coin there too, because yeah, that's going

0:47:48.080 --> 0:47:50.800
<v Speaker 2>to be a sort of a baptism by fire essentially,

0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:54.520
<v Speaker 2>but it's also totally unscouted, like what is his system right,

0:47:54.560 --> 0:47:57.239
<v Speaker 2>and it's not going to be probably anything quite like

0:47:57.400 --> 0:48:00.840
<v Speaker 2>the tree quote unquote that he comes from. I think

0:48:01.080 --> 0:48:03.040
<v Speaker 2>when we're talking about all this stuff, like, I think

0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:05.080
<v Speaker 2>that this team overall, Greg is going to have to

0:48:05.120 --> 0:48:08.160
<v Speaker 2>be really scheme heavy, Like they're gonna have to because

0:48:08.200 --> 0:48:10.479
<v Speaker 2>they're just talent that we know of so far. Until

0:48:10.480 --> 0:48:12.680
<v Speaker 2>we see some of these guys develop as the course

0:48:12.719 --> 0:48:15.279
<v Speaker 2>of the system, as the course of the season continues.

0:48:15.640 --> 0:48:17.600
<v Speaker 2>I just think they're gonna have to get the best

0:48:17.719 --> 0:48:20.520
<v Speaker 2>out of putting guys in position to be successful. Like

0:48:20.560 --> 0:48:24.560
<v Speaker 2>I mentioned, giving players multiple jobs to help spring open

0:48:24.640 --> 0:48:27.880
<v Speaker 2>or create space for some of their stars. And we

0:48:27.960 --> 0:48:31.239
<v Speaker 2>cannot leave this segment without talking about Brock Bauers, who

0:48:31.320 --> 0:48:34.239
<v Speaker 2>is like a my real reason for joy be my

0:48:34.360 --> 0:48:36.440
<v Speaker 2>land yapp see just.

0:48:36.600 --> 0:48:39.240
<v Speaker 1>As most important on Quarterback's important.

0:48:38.920 --> 0:48:41.719
<v Speaker 2>Most quarterback, which is what I said and I think

0:48:42.120 --> 0:48:46.480
<v Speaker 2>I think that there's this sort of people are looking

0:48:46.520 --> 0:48:48.920
<v Speaker 2>and I've done the same thing looking at some of

0:48:48.920 --> 0:48:51.359
<v Speaker 2>the Seattle concepts last year. With that Clint Kubiak ran

0:48:51.880 --> 0:48:53.680
<v Speaker 2>to try to get a sense of what they're gonna

0:48:53.719 --> 0:48:55.840
<v Speaker 2>do and what kind of player brock Bowers will be

0:48:56.360 --> 0:48:58.399
<v Speaker 2>in this offense. I think that might be the wrong

0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:00.200
<v Speaker 2>place to look, because if you were going to take

0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:02.279
<v Speaker 2>a J. Barnard Seattle tight end and put a jet

0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:05.200
<v Speaker 2>pack on him and then like you know, double him

0:49:05.280 --> 0:49:07.439
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, it's just not right. I think you look

0:49:07.480 --> 0:49:10.360
<v Speaker 2>back at those twenty three twenty four George Kittle seasons

0:49:10.520 --> 0:49:13.120
<v Speaker 2>where he goes over one thousand yards per season as

0:49:13.160 --> 0:49:16.400
<v Speaker 2>a pass catcher, and the entire offense is re coordinated

0:49:16.719 --> 0:49:19.800
<v Speaker 2>to funnel through what he does. He's a move player.

0:49:20.160 --> 0:49:22.840
<v Speaker 2>He is doing really interesting things out of stacks in

0:49:22.840 --> 0:49:25.919
<v Speaker 2>different formations. Yes, he's blocking in the run game as well,

0:49:26.160 --> 0:49:28.600
<v Speaker 2>but that passing game really reverted out of need at

0:49:28.600 --> 0:49:30.799
<v Speaker 2>that time to funnel through him. Clay Kubiak, excuse me,

0:49:30.800 --> 0:49:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Clint Kubiak, Geez, there's a lot of freaking kubas he

0:49:35.239 --> 0:49:38.759
<v Speaker 2>was he is following from that playbook. Is kubaks a

0:49:38.840 --> 0:49:40.719
<v Speaker 2>kettle a kettle of kubiaks.

0:49:40.960 --> 0:49:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Bowers is the best player on the team. I think

0:49:43.080 --> 0:49:45.239
<v Speaker 1>he's better than Mack if I had to choose, you know,

0:49:45.280 --> 0:49:49.080
<v Speaker 1>I take him over at Crosby and again he can

0:49:49.239 --> 0:49:51.319
<v Speaker 1>open things up in a way that just others can't.

0:49:51.360 --> 0:49:53.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he is a guy that has Hall of

0:49:53.160 --> 0:49:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Fame hours. I love you. Man has like Hall of

0:49:57.560 --> 0:50:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Fame talent and so hurt last year and it was

0:50:01.000 --> 0:50:03.240
<v Speaker 1>hurt for parts of last year. Is not the biggest

0:50:03.360 --> 0:50:05.680
<v Speaker 1>tight end in the world. I think things go wrong

0:50:05.719 --> 0:50:09.319
<v Speaker 1>if the secondary gets fried. Yeah, you mentioned, you know,

0:50:09.360 --> 0:50:11.279
<v Speaker 1>they've got to scheme things up. Patrick Graham was the

0:50:11.280 --> 0:50:13.920
<v Speaker 1>coordinator I should have mentioned earlier that did a good job. Look,

0:50:13.960 --> 0:50:17.960
<v Speaker 1>their number one corner is Eric Stokes. I said, a

0:50:17.960 --> 0:50:20.040
<v Speaker 1>fourth round pick, Jumont McCoy, who has a lot of talent,

0:50:20.040 --> 0:50:22.960
<v Speaker 1>could be battling for the other starting job. They drafted

0:50:23.000 --> 0:50:26.000
<v Speaker 1>a player trading Stukes in the second round, who could

0:50:26.000 --> 0:50:29.359
<v Speaker 1>be a slot, who could be a safety. They brought

0:50:29.400 --> 0:50:32.319
<v Speaker 1>in Tarron Johnson who was good for the Bills, but

0:50:32.320 --> 0:50:34.200
<v Speaker 1>they let go of them. I think for a reason,

0:50:34.280 --> 0:50:39.360
<v Speaker 1>like it could work, but that's it's a pretty unproven

0:50:39.400 --> 0:50:43.319
<v Speaker 1>secondary and it's also a linebacker group in Nikobe Dean

0:50:43.360 --> 0:50:45.279
<v Speaker 1>and kway Walker who.

0:50:45.320 --> 0:50:46.960
<v Speaker 2>That's a variance.

0:50:47.239 --> 0:50:50.520
<v Speaker 1>Variance is right, Like they they have given up some

0:50:50.560 --> 0:50:52.879
<v Speaker 1>big plays, They've made some big plays. They're getting paid

0:50:52.880 --> 0:50:55.279
<v Speaker 1>a lot of money. So if things go wrong, I

0:50:55.320 --> 0:50:58.080
<v Speaker 1>think it's that the past Russ doesn't even have enough

0:50:58.120 --> 0:51:00.600
<v Speaker 1>time because the back end just is fried.

0:51:00.840 --> 0:51:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, their defense minus you know, a couple of spots,

0:51:06.160 --> 0:51:10.120
<v Speaker 2>including whatever side Max Crosby is lining up on to rush,

0:51:10.680 --> 0:51:14.160
<v Speaker 2>is a huge red flag to me. Even what I understand,

0:51:14.840 --> 0:51:19.839
<v Speaker 2>drop my pen. I understand why bringing in like those

0:51:19.880 --> 0:51:23.080
<v Speaker 2>linebackers it makes sense to me. You know exactly who

0:51:23.120 --> 0:51:25.120
<v Speaker 2>they are if you're the coach, like we don't know

0:51:25.160 --> 0:51:27.480
<v Speaker 2>what it's gonna look like here. They know they can

0:51:27.520 --> 0:51:30.359
<v Speaker 2>sort of level set around them. They need stability. They

0:51:30.360 --> 0:51:32.719
<v Speaker 2>needed veterans on that side of the ball too, that

0:51:32.760 --> 0:51:35.480
<v Speaker 2>are not just occupied up front on the line of scrimmage,

0:51:35.520 --> 0:51:38.400
<v Speaker 2>that can communicate. Like I understand all of this, I

0:51:38.560 --> 0:51:42.279
<v Speaker 2>just man, I don't. Last year was so rough through

0:51:42.320 --> 0:51:44.799
<v Speaker 2>most of it for the Raiders. I don't think it

0:51:44.840 --> 0:51:48.120
<v Speaker 2>can get any worse. But I do think that there's

0:51:48.160 --> 0:51:50.799
<v Speaker 2>gonna be some real bumps for this defense along the way.

0:51:51.000 --> 0:51:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I love the edge group with Crosby and could he

0:51:54.480 --> 0:51:56.680
<v Speaker 1>pay as the two key run Crawford was a good

0:51:56.760 --> 0:51:59.600
<v Speaker 1>draft pick. Malcolm Koons is a year healthier, so they

0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:02.720
<v Speaker 1>have some talent. What is our ceiling and our floor

0:52:02.760 --> 0:52:05.080
<v Speaker 1>for this team? What is success for the twenty twenty

0:52:05.080 --> 0:52:06.480
<v Speaker 1>six Raiders progress?

0:52:06.840 --> 0:52:10.359
<v Speaker 2>Right? I have him anywhere. I could see potentially four

0:52:10.400 --> 0:52:13.200
<v Speaker 2>wins on their schedule. I could see him as high

0:52:13.200 --> 0:52:13.600
<v Speaker 2>as six.

0:52:13.719 --> 0:52:17.319
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I thought four was the ceiling. That's tough.

0:52:17.400 --> 0:52:19.759
<v Speaker 2>Noo. Six four to six wins is sort of my

0:52:19.920 --> 0:52:21.600
<v Speaker 2>range for them to.

0:52:21.600 --> 0:52:23.319
<v Speaker 1>Me, And this is unfair. I'm taking the question in

0:52:23.320 --> 0:52:25.840
<v Speaker 1>a different way. Success is just Mendoza.

0:52:26.480 --> 0:52:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well yeah, I mean, if you'd spent the.

0:52:28.920 --> 0:52:31.279
<v Speaker 1>Refer t he's gonna play and if he just looks good.

0:52:31.320 --> 0:52:36.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we've seen rookie quarterbacks be pretty promising right away,

0:52:37.080 --> 0:52:39.799
<v Speaker 1>very recently in this league. CJ. Stroud, Jayden Daniel Like

0:52:40.040 --> 0:52:42.839
<v Speaker 1>it happens if he goes out there, and whether whether

0:52:42.840 --> 0:52:44.560
<v Speaker 1>it's early in the season or late, and he just

0:52:44.600 --> 0:52:46.560
<v Speaker 1>looks good. I don't even care what the record is,

0:52:47.120 --> 0:52:49.120
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, it's hard. It's hard with their schedule. The

0:52:49.239 --> 0:52:51.479
<v Speaker 1>entire AFC West, like I mentioned, has to play the NFC.

0:52:51.560 --> 0:52:55.400
<v Speaker 1>West's hard to imagine anything higher than seven or eight wins.

0:52:55.400 --> 0:52:58.640
<v Speaker 1>But to me it, you know, it's just Mendoza. If

0:52:58.640 --> 0:53:01.799
<v Speaker 1>Mendoza looks if if he only plays three games, but

0:53:01.880 --> 0:53:04.480
<v Speaker 1>those three games are really promising, that's funny.

0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:06.560
<v Speaker 2>So would you say he's your Mendoza line?

0:53:06.640 --> 0:53:15.120
<v Speaker 1>Hey over under on Mendoza starts, I'm setting at twelve.

0:53:16.040 --> 0:53:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's a lot more than I probably not by

0:53:18.040 --> 0:53:20.680
<v Speaker 2>the hype. Yeah, I'm I'm going to say I don't.

0:53:20.400 --> 0:53:22.080
<v Speaker 2>I have to go back and look when they're bye

0:53:22.160 --> 0:53:23.520
<v Speaker 2>week is but i'd say after.

0:53:23.360 --> 0:53:28.400
<v Speaker 1>The bye week sure, yeah, we will wrap up. And

0:53:28.480 --> 0:53:30.920
<v Speaker 1>I think this is going great. I'm having a lot

0:53:30.920 --> 0:53:31.400
<v Speaker 1>of fun.

0:53:31.239 --> 0:53:33.600
<v Speaker 2>Jeordan with this next one, can we just like triple

0:53:33.640 --> 0:53:34.000
<v Speaker 2>the time?

0:53:35.800 --> 0:53:38.440
<v Speaker 1>Come on? We will be going to Chargers camp at

0:53:38.440 --> 0:53:42.319
<v Speaker 1>one point, famously low budget here at NFL daily in

0:53:42.400 --> 0:53:44.960
<v Speaker 1>terms of our early travel, so we travel to the

0:53:45.000 --> 0:53:47.520
<v Speaker 1>places that are close. Uh, and the Chargers are like

0:53:47.560 --> 0:53:49.400
<v Speaker 1>ten minutes away. We're going to go see the Chargers

0:53:49.400 --> 0:53:51.160
<v Speaker 1>in a couple weeks so you can talk about them more.

0:53:51.520 --> 0:53:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Sure then? Okay, Chargers coming off in eleven and sixth season,

0:53:56.640 --> 0:54:00.440
<v Speaker 1>only seventeenth in DVOA last year, though, that kind of

0:54:00.440 --> 0:54:00.960
<v Speaker 1>cut my eye.

0:54:01.120 --> 0:54:01.319
<v Speaker 2>M hm.

0:54:01.760 --> 0:54:05.239
<v Speaker 1>The bad playoff game is a factor. They really invested

0:54:05.840 --> 0:54:08.680
<v Speaker 1>in getting their blocking better. They bring in Charlie Kohler,

0:54:08.960 --> 0:54:13.200
<v Speaker 1>They hire Mike McDaniel, an offensive you know, running game wizard.

0:54:13.200 --> 0:54:16.200
<v Speaker 1>They remade the entire interior of their offensive line. They

0:54:16.239 --> 0:54:18.760
<v Speaker 1>signed Tyler Biattas, who's been a good center for Washington.

0:54:19.040 --> 0:54:22.600
<v Speaker 1>They signed Cole Strange, who was in Miami with Mike McDaniel.

0:54:22.920 --> 0:54:26.759
<v Speaker 1>They drafted Jake Slawder in the second round, and so yeah,

0:54:26.800 --> 0:54:31.279
<v Speaker 1>they really emphasized getting a little tougher up front, like

0:54:31.320 --> 0:54:34.319
<v Speaker 1>an old school Jim Harbaugh team, especially in terms of

0:54:34.440 --> 0:54:37.360
<v Speaker 1>running the ball. That's just a little bit of an overview.

0:54:37.400 --> 0:54:40.239
<v Speaker 1>We obviously can't hit everything here of where they're at

0:54:40.440 --> 0:54:42.960
<v Speaker 1>entering the season, what is bringing you joy other than

0:54:43.040 --> 0:54:43.799
<v Speaker 1>Mike McDaniel.

0:54:44.000 --> 0:54:47.760
<v Speaker 2>This quote from tackle Rashaun Slater on the new blocking scheme.

0:54:47.920 --> 0:54:50.680
<v Speaker 2>The rule is just get off and just go destroy

0:54:50.920 --> 0:54:54.360
<v Speaker 2>everything in your path. So honestly, just fun to block,

0:54:54.560 --> 0:54:55.720
<v Speaker 2>doesn't take too much thinking.

0:54:56.040 --> 0:54:59.480
<v Speaker 1>That is a beautiful way to think about this Chargers team.

0:54:59.600 --> 0:55:03.120
<v Speaker 1>And and yeah, all Joe allt They're left tackle and

0:55:03.200 --> 0:55:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Rashaun Slater the right tackle. Them being back and us

0:55:07.560 --> 0:55:10.360
<v Speaker 1>just being in the time of the year before anything

0:55:10.440 --> 0:55:14.000
<v Speaker 1>horrible happens to the Chargers. It gives me joy. I'm

0:55:14.000 --> 0:55:14.879
<v Speaker 1>always way too high.

0:55:14.960 --> 0:55:18.600
<v Speaker 2>They realist in every time I do it. Every time willingly,

0:55:19.120 --> 0:55:21.920
<v Speaker 2>willingly they tell me, girl, delete the number, and I

0:55:22.040 --> 0:55:23.840
<v Speaker 2>just say, you know, but maybe I can, Maybe I

0:55:23.880 --> 0:55:24.839
<v Speaker 2>can change them this year.

0:55:24.960 --> 0:55:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing. And I don't know if you want

0:55:26.280 --> 0:55:28.239
<v Speaker 1>to get into McDaniel in terms of scheme dream, but

0:55:28.400 --> 0:55:32.160
<v Speaker 1>it is year three of this Jim Harbaugh build. I

0:55:32.200 --> 0:55:36.120
<v Speaker 1>always think year three is the year for the new regimes.

0:55:36.160 --> 0:55:37.880
<v Speaker 1>And I know it's the first year of McDaniel, but

0:55:37.960 --> 0:55:41.320
<v Speaker 1>it's year three of Harbaugh. You have these tackles coming back.

0:55:41.880 --> 0:55:45.560
<v Speaker 1>Like the vision of whatever this Harbaugh Joehorties team was

0:55:45.600 --> 0:55:48.279
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be. It's now and they've had success. They've

0:55:48.280 --> 0:55:50.360
<v Speaker 1>made they've made the playoffs and back to back seasons.

0:55:50.520 --> 0:55:53.759
<v Speaker 1>But it's now, yeah, you know, and they're not third

0:55:53.840 --> 0:55:57.200
<v Speaker 1>year forty nine ers Jim Harbaugh. And maybe that's they

0:55:57.200 --> 0:55:59.120
<v Speaker 1>suffer a little bit because I'm always comparing them to

0:55:59.160 --> 0:56:02.560
<v Speaker 1>those old forty nine it's not and they're not there,

0:56:02.680 --> 0:56:05.680
<v Speaker 1>there's potential maybe, and tell tell us scheme wise how

0:56:05.680 --> 0:56:06.720
<v Speaker 1>they could get that potential.

0:56:06.880 --> 0:56:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, they got to run the ball better, which that

0:56:09.200 --> 0:56:11.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, we've talked, we have talked, we will talk.

0:56:11.200 --> 0:56:13.680
<v Speaker 2>I think so much more about this Mike McDaniel run

0:56:13.680 --> 0:56:15.480
<v Speaker 2>game and what it's supposed to be. I think it

0:56:15.520 --> 0:56:18.279
<v Speaker 2>will take some time to really see the full expression

0:56:18.320 --> 0:56:20.680
<v Speaker 2>of what the run pass game with him is going

0:56:20.719 --> 0:56:22.399
<v Speaker 2>to be because it's so detailed, and I just want

0:56:22.400 --> 0:56:24.600
<v Speaker 2>to touch on it very briefly, the run part, the

0:56:24.680 --> 0:56:27.799
<v Speaker 2>run game part of it, which you're smiling because you're like, brief.

0:56:27.520 --> 0:56:29.839
<v Speaker 1>Moment whatever you say, very briefly, you're like.

0:56:29.880 --> 0:56:34.000
<v Speaker 2>No, she's got paragraphs. Because I think they're going to

0:56:34.360 --> 0:56:36.719
<v Speaker 2>use motion more. I mean, it's it's pretty obvious. It's

0:56:36.800 --> 0:56:39.160
<v Speaker 2>you watch any of his other schemes on the in

0:56:39.200 --> 0:56:41.640
<v Speaker 2>the run game specifically, the Chargers were not a really

0:56:41.760 --> 0:56:44.799
<v Speaker 2>predominantly motion team, particularly not in the run game last

0:56:44.840 --> 0:56:47.360
<v Speaker 2>season and certainly for the last few seasons. And I

0:56:47.400 --> 0:56:50.600
<v Speaker 2>think with this because he uses tight end, tight ends

0:56:50.600 --> 0:56:53.800
<v Speaker 2>and fullbacks to execute a lot of the motion concepts

0:56:53.840 --> 0:56:57.600
<v Speaker 2>in the Run game specifically, that means he's he's changing

0:56:57.640 --> 0:57:00.480
<v Speaker 2>gaps so your linebackers will shift or or they'll be

0:57:00.640 --> 0:57:02.880
<v Speaker 2>staying stagnant and they won't rotate till after the snap.

0:57:02.920 --> 0:57:06.239
<v Speaker 2>Against this team, particularly, you probably are going to have

0:57:06.320 --> 0:57:09.200
<v Speaker 2>to try. Do you think they're running the ball counter

0:57:09.280 --> 0:57:11.920
<v Speaker 2>rotating to where they're motioning, because otherwise a gap is

0:57:11.960 --> 0:57:14.600
<v Speaker 2>going to be open. Because he uses the big guys

0:57:14.640 --> 0:57:16.640
<v Speaker 2>to basically say, Okay, I'm gonna pick up this gap

0:57:16.680 --> 0:57:18.240
<v Speaker 2>that I have and I'm gonna move it over here.

0:57:18.480 --> 0:57:21.040
<v Speaker 2>And now the linebackers and the safeties do not know

0:57:21.080 --> 0:57:22.919
<v Speaker 2>what gap they're supposed to be covering or they're out

0:57:22.920 --> 0:57:25.520
<v Speaker 2>of their gap assignment because of the way that they end.

0:57:25.560 --> 0:57:28.680
<v Speaker 2>So he does it with formations, big personnel. So that's

0:57:28.720 --> 0:57:30.280
<v Speaker 2>what I think is part of what will make this

0:57:30.520 --> 0:57:31.480
<v Speaker 2>run game so effective.

0:57:31.520 --> 0:57:34.200
<v Speaker 1>And it's a lot to deal with, especially early in

0:57:34.240 --> 0:57:36.440
<v Speaker 1>the season. One of my little land yap things was

0:57:36.480 --> 0:57:39.400
<v Speaker 1>this is on paper, one of the toughest schedules in

0:57:39.440 --> 0:57:44.200
<v Speaker 1>the entire NFL, but they open with their two easiest

0:57:44.200 --> 0:57:47.120
<v Speaker 1>games on the entire schedule, Cardinals Raiders at home back

0:57:47.120 --> 0:57:50.959
<v Speaker 1>to back. So that's like a nice little you better

0:57:51.000 --> 0:57:54.960
<v Speaker 1>win those games. But I just think McDaniel has a

0:57:55.040 --> 0:57:58.360
<v Speaker 1>lot to work with, Yeah, but also a lot to

0:57:58.480 --> 0:58:03.920
<v Speaker 1>work on. Yes, new players, new tight ends, tackles, coming

0:58:03.960 --> 0:58:07.080
<v Speaker 1>back from injury. Yes, it's just a lot, and it's

0:58:07.120 --> 0:58:09.160
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a prove it year for McDaniel

0:58:09.200 --> 0:58:12.360
<v Speaker 1>in a way that to I think Aaron Shots pointed out, Well,

0:58:12.400 --> 0:58:15.080
<v Speaker 1>he's not exactly a made man. Even we've never seen

0:58:15.120 --> 0:58:17.960
<v Speaker 1>him as an offensive coordinator running his own offense. We've

0:58:17.960 --> 0:58:20.400
<v Speaker 1>seen the Dolphins, but even as great as the Dolphins were,

0:58:21.080 --> 0:58:23.320
<v Speaker 1>they never kept it going the whole season. They're often

0:58:23.360 --> 0:58:25.200
<v Speaker 1>he's supposed to be an O line guy. The old

0:58:25.280 --> 0:58:26.760
<v Speaker 1>line was up and down there. He's supposed to be

0:58:26.760 --> 0:58:28.840
<v Speaker 1>a run game guy. It was great when it was great,

0:58:28.880 --> 0:58:30.920
<v Speaker 1>but sometimes it was it was pretty bad. You know,

0:58:31.120 --> 0:58:35.160
<v Speaker 1>like Tua gave him limitations, but it wasn't all perfect.

0:58:35.160 --> 0:58:37.200
<v Speaker 1>So it's just a lot for him to do.

0:58:37.320 --> 0:58:39.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you said that because there are so many

0:58:39.280 --> 0:58:43.160
<v Speaker 2>details where I'm not sure we see this. I think

0:58:43.200 --> 0:58:45.200
<v Speaker 2>our expectations are so high for what this is. I'm

0:58:45.240 --> 0:58:47.440
<v Speaker 2>not sure that this offense meets them immediately. I think

0:58:47.480 --> 0:58:51.000
<v Speaker 2>over time it does, but immediately there's so many things.

0:58:51.040 --> 0:58:53.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he changed justin Herbert's footwork, This year, and

0:58:53.480 --> 0:58:56.320
<v Speaker 2>this goes into some of the passing game tweaks that

0:58:56.320 --> 0:59:02.040
<v Speaker 2>they're doing. There's so much intricate, meticulous, small, tiny timing

0:59:02.120 --> 0:59:04.520
<v Speaker 2>things that go into how he wants to do this.

0:59:04.600 --> 0:59:07.280
<v Speaker 2>He does not have the speed that he had in Miami,

0:59:07.320 --> 0:59:10.520
<v Speaker 2>but he's going to use space in very very similar ways.

0:59:10.600 --> 0:59:13.960
<v Speaker 2>And so they flipped justin Herbert's foot front foot, so

0:59:14.000 --> 0:59:17.120
<v Speaker 2>his left foot's forward now because in Mike McDaniel's mind

0:59:17.160 --> 0:59:19.240
<v Speaker 2>has always been this way that you can get the

0:59:19.280 --> 0:59:21.960
<v Speaker 2>ball out faster. Well, that can't just happen in a vacuum.

0:59:22.000 --> 0:59:23.760
<v Speaker 2>What they will also do, and you'll see a lot

0:59:23.800 --> 0:59:27.040
<v Speaker 2>of this, I think, is use motion with the receivers

0:59:27.400 --> 0:59:30.360
<v Speaker 2>to inform a checkdown, not necessarily use motion to go

0:59:30.400 --> 0:59:34.480
<v Speaker 2>on these long developing plays. Justin Herbert had very few answered,

0:59:34.560 --> 0:59:37.440
<v Speaker 2>quick answers, quick options to mitigate pressure. That was some

0:59:37.480 --> 0:59:40.080
<v Speaker 2>of the things that really drove fans crazy watching in

0:59:40.120 --> 0:59:43.280
<v Speaker 2>some of these years. And what Mike McDaniel does differently

0:59:43.320 --> 0:59:46.560
<v Speaker 2>about his checkdowns is he uses motion and he uses

0:59:46.600 --> 0:59:49.160
<v Speaker 2>formation changes to set those up to where they can

0:59:49.200 --> 0:59:51.920
<v Speaker 2>gain more yards out of a small pass when the

0:59:52.000 --> 0:59:54.640
<v Speaker 2>quarterback's under pressure than they normally would as sort of

0:59:54.720 --> 0:59:57.760
<v Speaker 2>a desperation option. So I think all that's so based

0:59:57.800 --> 1:00:01.080
<v Speaker 2>on timing. It takes Its going to take some time.

1:00:01.080 --> 1:00:02.680
<v Speaker 1>And Herbert's been a guy who likes to hold on

1:00:02.720 --> 1:00:04.440
<v Speaker 1>to the ball and then make a big play, and

1:00:04.480 --> 1:00:07.480
<v Speaker 1>I do think this could help him potentially stay healthier, Like,

1:00:07.520 --> 1:00:09.880
<v Speaker 1>can we have a normal justin Herbert season? The story

1:00:09.920 --> 1:00:12.680
<v Speaker 1>half the time is him just playing through some injury

1:00:12.680 --> 1:00:15.120
<v Speaker 1>and being heroic about it. But you don't always want

1:00:15.160 --> 1:00:18.640
<v Speaker 1>him to be a hero. I'll mention something we haven't

1:00:18.680 --> 1:00:21.200
<v Speaker 1>mentioned yet in like the first five minutes they played

1:00:21.240 --> 1:00:22.800
<v Speaker 1>defense for the charges too.

1:00:22.920 --> 1:00:25.040
<v Speaker 2>It's so sweet that you think we've only gone five

1:00:25.080 --> 1:00:25.680
<v Speaker 2>minutes now.

1:00:25.760 --> 1:00:29.840
<v Speaker 1>I think that's true. Roughly. Chris O'Leary is their new

1:00:29.840 --> 1:00:32.680
<v Speaker 1>defensive coordinator, so a lot of attention on Mike McDaniel,

1:00:32.680 --> 1:00:35.240
<v Speaker 1>but they have two new coordinators. Jesse Minner was thought

1:00:35.280 --> 1:00:37.760
<v Speaker 1>of as one of the best coordinators in the entire league,

1:00:37.800 --> 1:00:40.400
<v Speaker 1>so these are big shoes to fill. They sent Chris O'Leary,

1:00:40.440 --> 1:00:43.760
<v Speaker 1>who was with the staff before, to Western Michigan to

1:00:43.840 --> 1:00:47.000
<v Speaker 1>try out some fun schematic stuff, and then they bring

1:00:47.120 --> 1:00:49.680
<v Speaker 1>him back. It's like a farm system. What does he

1:00:49.840 --> 1:00:53.800
<v Speaker 1>bring now? It's not an overwhelmingly talented defense. I don't

1:00:53.800 --> 1:00:56.960
<v Speaker 1>think it's not an untalented defense. But when you're looking

1:00:56.960 --> 1:01:00.400
<v Speaker 1>for real difference makers, you know, Derwin James is getting

1:01:00.440 --> 1:01:03.800
<v Speaker 1>up there in years. But but is that guy Tully

1:01:03.800 --> 1:01:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Poloto is a great edge, But is he you know,

1:01:09.440 --> 1:01:12.960
<v Speaker 1>a great number one edge? You know, I think he's somewhere.

1:01:12.960 --> 1:01:15.680
<v Speaker 1>He fits somewhere between like the twentieth and twenty fifth

1:01:15.720 --> 1:01:18.080
<v Speaker 1>you know edge in the league. What they have is

1:01:18.160 --> 1:01:22.000
<v Speaker 1>continuity of their eleven projected starters that I looked at.

1:01:22.320 --> 1:01:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Ten were on the team last year, and most of

1:01:25.240 --> 1:01:27.520
<v Speaker 1>them have been with the team for a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>So I will get to kind of a larger point

1:01:30.320 --> 1:01:33.000
<v Speaker 1>of like where this team can get better. But I

1:01:33.040 --> 1:01:36.080
<v Speaker 1>do think like seeing what O'Leary has to play with

1:01:36.120 --> 1:01:38.280
<v Speaker 1>because this was a very extreme team last year. They

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<v Speaker 1>played with the lightest box in the league. They play

1:01:39.840 --> 1:01:41.920
<v Speaker 1>the most six defensive backs in the league. Like, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see if he keeps that same style, well, I.

1:01:43.960 --> 1:01:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Think he could be extra an extreme team in other

1:01:46.040 --> 1:01:49.600
<v Speaker 2>ways too. Western Michigan they were scoring defense, so that's

1:01:49.600 --> 1:01:51.680
<v Speaker 2>sort of feast or famine, right, And so I think

1:01:51.680 --> 1:01:54.360
<v Speaker 2>that with they want him to be very much like

1:01:54.480 --> 1:01:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Jesse Minter. That's that's my impression. But they also are

1:01:59.480 --> 1:02:02.760
<v Speaker 2>they send down to the college game to work on

1:02:02.800 --> 1:02:05.760
<v Speaker 2>some front structures and pressures and different types of spacing

1:02:05.800 --> 1:02:09.560
<v Speaker 2>and flexing his mind about making game plans where the

1:02:09.560 --> 1:02:12.439
<v Speaker 2>spacing is different at that level. That's what they've done,

1:02:12.680 --> 1:02:15.720
<v Speaker 2>the Harbaughs have done now in this second like reinvention

1:02:15.800 --> 1:02:17.880
<v Speaker 2>of them both in the NFL. And so I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I'm curious about is how aggressive will this

1:02:21.520 --> 1:02:24.040
<v Speaker 2>defense be? How much will it depend on what Chris

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<v Speaker 2>O'Leary did in a very small sample size of actual

1:02:27.000 --> 1:02:30.479
<v Speaker 2>defensive coordinator slash coaching that we've seen him do, game

1:02:30.520 --> 1:02:33.960
<v Speaker 2>planning we've seen him do, And then will he continued

1:02:34.000 --> 1:02:37.840
<v Speaker 2>to sort of operate this bespoke package for Derwin James

1:02:37.840 --> 1:02:39.840
<v Speaker 2>like he helped build with Jesse Minter when he was

1:02:39.880 --> 1:02:40.360
<v Speaker 2>first there.

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<v Speaker 1>So that connects with my things go wrong if yeah,

1:02:43.360 --> 1:02:46.560
<v Speaker 1>and to me, it's if the D fence looks sneaky old,

1:02:46.880 --> 1:02:51.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, Derwin James, Khalil Mack, Dalvin Tomlinson, who is

1:02:51.440 --> 1:02:55.160
<v Speaker 1>the one news starter that they brought in. Tony Jefferson

1:02:55.240 --> 1:02:56.960
<v Speaker 1>might not start, but he's going to have a big role.

1:02:57.080 --> 1:03:01.760
<v Speaker 1>Denzel Perryman, Dante Jackson's like about thirty. Even their draft

1:03:01.760 --> 1:03:04.600
<v Speaker 1>picks a key Messidor is old. You know, he's like

1:03:05.200 --> 1:03:09.800
<v Speaker 1>twenty six year old rookie, So that that worries me

1:03:10.200 --> 1:03:13.280
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. They have some young players on the roster,

1:03:13.360 --> 1:03:15.920
<v Speaker 1>and this is a more overall kind of idea I'll

1:03:15.920 --> 1:03:18.560
<v Speaker 1>throw at you with the Chargers. To me, the only

1:03:18.600 --> 1:03:20.160
<v Speaker 1>way they're as good as we think they're gonna be

1:03:20.440 --> 1:03:24.360
<v Speaker 1>is if they're younger players, specifically on offense really turn

1:03:24.400 --> 1:03:28.280
<v Speaker 1>into some of those great pillars that his old forty

1:03:28.360 --> 1:03:30.920
<v Speaker 1>nine ers teams have. And that means Joe all actually

1:03:30.960 --> 1:03:33.520
<v Speaker 1>being like the best left tackle, and rashond On Slater

1:03:33.800 --> 1:03:37.280
<v Speaker 1>fulfilling his potential and lad McConkie really taking a step

1:03:37.360 --> 1:03:40.040
<v Speaker 1>up and Herbert taking a step up. When I looked

1:03:40.080 --> 1:03:42.920
<v Speaker 1>at like areas for improvement for this team, it's the

1:03:42.960 --> 1:03:45.800
<v Speaker 1>young receiver too. It's I think, especially on offense, like

1:03:46.160 --> 1:03:48.880
<v Speaker 1>they just need to develop these guys and there's been

1:03:48.920 --> 1:03:51.800
<v Speaker 1>a lot of potential on this team, Like that's the

1:03:51.840 --> 1:03:53.320
<v Speaker 1>only way they're gonna be as good as we think

1:03:53.320 --> 1:03:56.200
<v Speaker 1>they are as all of those young dudes taking a

1:03:56.200 --> 1:03:56.920
<v Speaker 1>big step up.

1:03:57.040 --> 1:04:01.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. They I really was sort of of just gobsmacked

1:04:01.840 --> 1:04:03.480
<v Speaker 2>by this when I went to their camp last year

1:04:03.480 --> 1:04:06.439
<v Speaker 2>as the man they passed the eye test. They are

1:04:06.480 --> 1:04:09.800
<v Speaker 2>massive at every position, even they're smaller receivers like tray hairs,

1:04:09.880 --> 1:04:14.280
<v Speaker 2>like they are giant players like everywhere. They've got all

1:04:14.320 --> 1:04:16.720
<v Speaker 2>this size, they've got mismatched personnel, they've got all the

1:04:16.800 --> 1:04:18.800
<v Speaker 2>kinds of new fangled ways you want to play offense

1:04:18.840 --> 1:04:20.960
<v Speaker 2>and all the kinds of old school plays ways that

1:04:21.000 --> 1:04:23.320
<v Speaker 2>you want to play offense. And with Mike McDaniel, you

1:04:23.320 --> 1:04:25.080
<v Speaker 2>know they're gonna match it all together and I'll be fine.

1:04:25.080 --> 1:04:27.200
<v Speaker 2>But I think if things do go wrong, it's because

1:04:27.640 --> 1:04:30.960
<v Speaker 2>collectively it takes too long, first of all, for all

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<v Speaker 2>these little detailed things to happen, which I know is

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<v Speaker 2>why you wanted to bring in alec Ingold and Charlie Kolar,

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<v Speaker 2>because those are two guys who can kind of jump start.

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<v Speaker 1>That block full back and a block cafe full.

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<v Speaker 2>Back and a blocking titan who can catch the ball,

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<v Speaker 2>who are going to activate that entire surface run in pass.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, I almost got a tattooed on me this offseason.

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<v Speaker 2>I was on PTO, you know, wild times, it was

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<v Speaker 2>really like, it's really like if if it takes too long,

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<v Speaker 2>it almost might be too late, right because everything is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be so competitive in that entire division, And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it. I don't think fans should mind

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<v Speaker 2>if it takes longer than they expected. I think expectations

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<v Speaker 2>are out of the gate. They kick doors down. But

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<v Speaker 2>if it if it starts to delay a little too much,

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<v Speaker 2>like that's when people are going to start to get

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<v Speaker 2>real restless about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have Lad McConkie kind of representing that entire

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<v Speaker 1>group as the most important non quarterback of all these

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<v Speaker 1>younger guys who have a ceiling they could get to.

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<v Speaker 1>But I feel like they're going to all need to

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<v Speaker 1>do it together, you know, Rondi Gadson's in that mix,

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<v Speaker 1>some of their young cornerbacks, Cam Hart, Like they all

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<v Speaker 1>need to kind of grow up together.

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<v Speaker 2>Grow up. Do you know what my land yap is

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<v Speaker 2>Their tight ends room is Aronde Gadson, Charlie Colar and

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<v Speaker 2>David Nijoku. If that doesn't make you smile, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what would.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty good in the running back room with Amari

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<v Speaker 1>and Hampton and Kamani Vitel and Keaton Mitchell. All. I

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<v Speaker 1>love how in both those rooms they're all doing different things.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a star studded skill group, but it's very deep.

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<v Speaker 1>Herbert has more than enough around them. Yeah, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>make the excuses this year. All right, Ceiling and floor

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<v Speaker 1>for this team if you were doing the exercise, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe Connor's way of thinking about it is instructive and helpful,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll do it that way. Like would you put

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<v Speaker 1>them on that list of teams that could win the

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I would too. I think they're like

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<v Speaker 1>they're reasonable. Ceiling is winning the division certainly, like having

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<v Speaker 1>a home playoff game or two. And the floor is

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<v Speaker 1>that they're the freaking Chargers. Like it's amazing how much

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<v Speaker 1>has gone wrong injury wise for Jim Harbough and yet

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<v Speaker 1>they've won eleven games the last couple of years. But

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<v Speaker 1>the floor is that just disaster strikes. Yeah, yeah, even

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<v Speaker 1>if healthy, like they could be third place in this division.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say that for all three teams. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think there's that much separation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have big depth questions about them on off

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<v Speaker 2>the offensive line and on defense like you mentioned, but really, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>their ceiling is about as high as any team with

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<v Speaker 2>talent in the league, and certainly with that exceptional quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>Their floor is what wild stuff is going to haunt

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<v Speaker 2>us this year. As it pertains to the Los Angeles Chargers.

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<v Speaker 1>We've reached the part of the show I was most

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<v Speaker 1>fearing slotting the division in. No, I really have to

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<v Speaker 1>come up with it, because I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 1>picking things just because oh, well, everyone's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>doing this, or you know, like or picking just what

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<v Speaker 1>you want to root for. But I do that a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit because you like, why not. You don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you're going to be right or wrong anyway, so

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<v Speaker 1>you might as well you go first, one to four.

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<v Speaker 2>One to four. I'm going Broncos, Chargers, Chiefs, Raiders.

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<v Speaker 1>I have this feeling about the Broncos that the season

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<v Speaker 1>when the expectations are so high, when everyone agrees it's

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<v Speaker 1>like the best roster, when nothing's changed, when the last

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<v Speaker 1>season ended with some like bad luck loss, and then

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<v Speaker 1>everyone just kind of pencils you in the next year.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just setting you up for big disappointment. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how or why it's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>work for them, but I have them third in the

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<v Speaker 1>race for third, and that might just be like a

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<v Speaker 1>ten win season or whatever. But I hate the teams

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<v Speaker 1>that are like that and they just expect to start.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not beating the allegations.

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<v Speaker 1>Not beating the allegation.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not beating the allegations.

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<v Speaker 1>Although I've been called many times in my socials a

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<v Speaker 1>Chiefs hater and just like way too in the bag

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<v Speaker 1>for the Chargers, but I do have this gut feeling

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm going to go with is I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>take the Chiefs to just find a way this year

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<v Speaker 1>and win this division. And so I think if, if

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<v Speaker 1>and when NFL dot Com asked me, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>they will to prick all the playoff teams, I'll probably

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<v Speaker 1>put all three of these teams in, but I will

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<v Speaker 1>put it in order, Chiefs, Chargers, Broncos and then Raiders.

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<v Speaker 1>H Give me the Chiefs in a season where they're

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<v Speaker 1>like not expected to win the thing, I just.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and then they do that. Nobody believes in us

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<v Speaker 2>except for Greg Rosenthal. No, I think this is a

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<v Speaker 2>master takesmanship. By the way, by the way you taught

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<v Speaker 2>me about this, Yeah, I do believe it. I do

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<v Speaker 2>think I do think that they're all they all are.

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<v Speaker 2>All three of those are playoff teams.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think that, and I do think they're all

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<v Speaker 1>about the same. And it seems like a cop out,

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<v Speaker 1>but I really think the top of the AFC and

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<v Speaker 1>I would put these teams in it. It's a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>even six or seven teams, and I think these are

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<v Speaker 1>three of those teams that should feel really good about themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the Raiders. You got a kid to be

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<v Speaker 1>excited about. I'm excited to do the rest of these

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<v Speaker 1>division previews. Now we nailed it. I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I signed myself up for so many of them.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how we want to do it. All Jordan, all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, all gas, no breaks, well especially before you

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<v Speaker 1>do some of your training camp tour. That's it for

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<v Speaker 1>our week. But as you hinted at, we're doing the

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<v Speaker 1>NFC West. We decided to do West is Best first,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that division preview is coming on Monday, in

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<v Speaker 1>addition to a bunch of training camp news. It's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be happening. Teams are showing up Seattle, the Patriots,

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<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl teams will be there on Monday. Calculam mhmm.