1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to desperately devoted Join us as we explore the 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: human experience through the lens of the iconic show Desperate Housewives. 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: I'm Terry Hatcher, I'm Andrea Bowen. 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: And I'm Emerson Tunny. 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: We are so glad to be back because this week 6 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: we are getting to hear from someone with more memories 7 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 1: from the street where it happened. This week, we have 8 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: an incredibly talented actor who you'll know not only from Housewives, 9 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: but from shows like Madmen and Homeland. You might think 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: his character is creepy, but stay with us because the 11 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: real man behind the gun and the shovel and the tranquilizers, well, 12 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: he is a total sweetheart. Please welcome Mark Moses. So 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: I guess, like, as we talk to you, this is 14 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: going to be interesting sort of spoiler alert, because Emerson 15 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: has not actually seen the show. 16 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: This is my first time. I mean, I've watched the pilot, 17 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: but this is my first time watching the whole show 18 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: all the way through. 19 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: So I think, like, they're like, you'll probably remember a 20 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: big thing much later in the last season that happens 21 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: between Mike and Susan, But like, I'm not saying those 22 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: things because I don't want to give it away, and 23 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. 24 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: I don't know, but if it gets given away, I 25 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: will just I'll just forget it. 26 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: I'll just forget it. 27 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 3: So we're going to I don't think I would know 28 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 3: anything that happens between Mike and Susan anyway, So. 29 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 4: That let's start with that. 30 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 3: I know a little bit about it, vaguely seeing it 31 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 3: again for the first time in so many years. Just now. 32 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 3: Actually it's great now because the commercials are shorter, and 33 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 3: that it was just it was. It was really enlightening 34 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,839 Speaker 3: about what a great show it was. I mean, from 35 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 3: everything from the graphics to the opening, to the how 36 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 3: quickly the plot moved, which I'd forgotten about. It really 37 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: moves quickly. 38 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree with you. I felt like the 39 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: first thing, the first like thirty seconds, I was like 40 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: with Steria Lane is a star like I could not 41 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,279 Speaker 1: believe the way it was shot, the way it was edited, 42 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: the lighting. What you're saying about how quick it moved 43 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: and how much story got revealed so quickly, how it 44 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: just pulled you in. It was it's it stood the 45 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: test of time, don't you. 46 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 3: Think I think it's I look at it now and go, wow, 47 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 3: they are not making serious that good anymore interesting. 48 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: We will. 49 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 3: I thought about it back then, I thought it was 50 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 3: well done, and now I look at it and go, wow, 51 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 3: it really was a good show. And I'm glad there's 52 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 3: a whole new audience like Emerson to watch it. Yeah. 53 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 4: Yo, Yeah, and your character Paul Young is so integral. 54 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 3: You know, everybody's having so much fun and there I 55 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 3: am like gloom and doom in the dark Shadows across 56 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 3: the Street. Third episode with Zach and then he comes 57 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,839 Speaker 3: in and he's so good. 58 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's great. 59 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 3: It was so well cast. And we did miss we 60 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 3: did miss missus Hubert Christine Esterbrook. She was such a 61 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 3: good busy body. 62 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. Like the cast was so great, 63 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: the writing was so great, the way, I mean, just 64 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: the whole It kind of brought up a sense of 65 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: pride of like, wow, I was actually in this, you know, 66 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: because I had sort of forgotten and I hadn't watched 67 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: it probably in twenty years whatever, And yeah, it really 68 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: was kind of stunning actually to just like the pilot, 69 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: especially I mean the opening with Mary Alice and Brenda 70 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: Strong and I mean you never saw stuff like that 71 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: on television. 72 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 3: No, and I was always surprised that there wasn't a 73 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 3: copycat show until Maybe Empire came out. I mean really, 74 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 3: I thought the other nighttime well, it was a little 75 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: bit of a nighttime soap opera, but a funny one. 76 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 77 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Actually, speaking of Terry mentioning the whole thing 78 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 4: with Mary Alice, you know, starting the series off with 79 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 4: someone dying by suicide, and you know how that relates 80 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 4: to you informing your character and your care's journey and 81 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 4: the whole mystery that we don't really understand what's going 82 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 4: on with you and what your relationship was. I had 83 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 4: a question for you about did you and Brenda talk 84 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 4: about what your relationship was like even though we don't 85 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 4: see that much of it playing out on screen. 86 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: No, okay, next question. 87 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 3: Okay, we didn't really talk. I mean we we got along, 88 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 3: we talked, we met, we talked about. One of the 89 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 3: reasons we didn't was because I don't know if Mark 90 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 3: cherry knew exactly where it was going all the time. Yeah, 91 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 3: that's I mean, I think I think it developed as 92 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 3: we went and I don't even think at the beginning 93 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 3: anybody really understood what the Young Family was about. I mean, 94 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 3: it sort of just started that way and then it 95 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 3: was a sort of dark, and then it got a 96 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 3: little darker, and then they'd say, no, just keep playing 97 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 3: it this way, and so it's sort of evolved. I 98 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 3: think some of the other characters and some of the 99 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 3: comedy that Mark wrote was more in his ballpark. But 100 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 3: I think that storyline was a little bit like what 101 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: are we going to do with this? And will it work? 102 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 3: And then but you know that toy chest, you know. 103 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm curious, do you do you remember reading the 104 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 2: pilot for the first time and how much of that story, 105 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 2: I mean kind of what you were saying, like was 106 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 2: there or did you feel like you invented for yourself 107 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: to have motivation as an actor? 108 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 3: Well? I read the pilot and then you know, you thought, Okay, 109 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 3: why am I digging up the pool? What's going on? 110 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: And we're wondering that too? 111 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 3: Well, I thought it was I just thought the image 112 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 3: was so great at the end of the first of 113 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 3: the first show, where he's in this pool chopping it up. 114 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 3: I mean, it didn't really matter what I pulled out 115 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 3: of there. It just was a great visual image and 116 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 3: it set up to suspense and I'm not sure that 117 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 3: was the initial plan. I was told that initially that 118 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 3: storyline wasn't there and put in there. That's what I 119 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 3: was told. It's true. Not maybe Mark Cherry can chime in, 120 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 3: but you know, he uh, I'd known Mark for a 121 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 3: long time. That was the fourth show I did with him. 122 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 3: And it's probably well, what are the shows? 123 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: What have you done with him? 124 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 3: Well, the first show was when he started off writing, 125 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 3: and he was a Back in the day, they had 126 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 3: a spec script, like you like, they wanted to get 127 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 3: writers involved with shows, so every show had to have 128 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 3: one or two spec scripts, and Mark wrote a spec 129 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 3: script for Golden Girls. I was Rue mcclanahan's illegitimate child. 130 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 3: That was the name of this. 131 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: Oh that is the best trivia piece of trivia I've 132 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:35,679 Speaker 1: ever heard. 133 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 3: Was introduced to Golden Girls and then ended up I 134 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 3: think being the head writer on Golden Palace years later. 135 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 3: And you know, to tell you the truth, there isn't 136 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 3: a male flight attendant that hasn't seen that episode of 137 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 3: Golden Girl. 138 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: Wow. 139 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 3: So so that happened, and then he opened up another show, 140 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 3: which was The Crew. I did a guest star on that, 141 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 3: and then the next show is five minutes buchanans and 142 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 3: I was Beth Broderick's husband. So by the time Desperate 143 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 3: Housewives came up, the only thing Mark said to me was, 144 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 3: how come he didn't go up for who's Dug Savon's 145 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: character's name? 146 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 147 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 3: Why does go for Tom? And I said, because you 148 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 3: didn't bring me in. So that part sort of like 149 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 3: opened up afterwards, and then. 150 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: That was the Paul opened up a. 151 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 3: Well, I think so, because from what I was told 152 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 3: he was writing, the script wasn't oh gosh, that wasn't selling. 153 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 3: He lost his agent. Mark was a very loyal guy 154 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 3: and a great funny writer, as we all know, but 155 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 3: he lost his agent so he had to switch agents. 156 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 3: And the agent said, you know, this is a great story, 157 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 3: and he handed it to someone who I think ran 158 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 3: melrose Place and Charles Charles, and he said, you need 159 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 3: to put a mystery in it. And Mark wasn't really 160 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 3: thrilled about it, but that was an added miss and 161 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 3: then it's wow. Yeah. So I think initially it was 162 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 3: just the comedy and the four women in the cul 163 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 3: de sac and the antics that happened, and then that 164 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 3: was an added feature, and I think that's. 165 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: And that's what and that's where that role came. 166 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 3: Well, that's amazing, but that sort of was well that 167 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 3: sounds right. 168 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: I mean the pieces that add up to me is 169 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: that I know that there was a producer and I 170 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: think it was either Chuck or Charles. I mean, it's 171 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: horrible that I don't know who this is, but it 172 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: was like Mark, this guy Chuck Pratt, I think is 173 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: that yeah, yeah, so Chuck and Michael Edelstein and and 174 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: I remember hearing that Chuck had come in with more 175 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: of the structure, which is probably lends itself to like 176 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: serial television. And I know that Mark had written it 177 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: on spec and it had been around for a while 178 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 1: as opposed to kind of going through a normal developmental 179 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: pilot season. So that adds up that I think. I 180 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: think we both have the same perception. Do you have 181 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: memories of like the read through or your first day 182 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: on set or being up on Wisteria Lane at Universal, 183 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 1: Like do you remember. 184 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 3: Remember remember we had read throughs, and very big shows 185 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 3: do have read throughs. I mean mad Men had read throughs, 186 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 3: but this show had to read through and it was great. 187 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 3: We all got together read it and I think it helped. 188 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 3: I think they could lesh out certain jokes that worked 189 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 3: and maybe some that didn't. I have to I have 190 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 3: to tell you right now on the third episode, I 191 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 3: laughed out loud on the dinner table and you break 192 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 3: the ice Breezeline, breeze line. I was on the floor, 193 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 3: the floor with breeze line. Yeah. 194 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: No, it's just it's classic. I mean, it's it's just 195 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: brilliant and she was. It was brilliant delivery on Marsha's 196 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: part and an amazing line. No, but but sometimes too, 197 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 1: you look at stuff like that when you think about 198 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: comedy and you think about the setup. You know, that 199 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: was a minute and a half setup to that joke 200 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: that all of us played our little part in, you know, 201 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: digging away to make it to set up, and then 202 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: she just came with her bat and just like knocked 203 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: that out of the park. And I really do think 204 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: it's a great example of that kind of collaboration comedy. 205 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: There's just nothing better. 206 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 3: And and set pieces, really good set pieces in it, 207 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 3: like when you obviously you lose your towel and then 208 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 3: you know you're naked outside your house, or just little 209 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 3: pieces with Lynette with driving her kids locking them out 210 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 3: and it just set up, set up, pay off. It was. 211 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 3: It's a series worth watching. 212 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so great. 213 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 3: I look at you now, Andrew, and I just go, 214 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 3: oh my god, she's this beautiful own woman now and 215 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 3: she's just like you were. I don't know what thirteen theneen. 216 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, wasn't she great? 217 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 4: Oh gods? 218 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 3: Great, thank you? 219 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: Thanks. Yeah. 220 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 4: I relate to Terry watching it and feeling like I 221 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 4: can't believe I was a part of this, you know. 222 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 4: I mean, it's probably different for her than it is 223 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 4: for me thinking that, but really, I you guys are 224 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 4: all so good, and the fact that I got to 225 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 4: grow up witnessing such talented actors on a daily basis 226 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 4: is something I am so grateful for. 227 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 3: Well, you were thirteen, and when you finished, how old 228 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 3: were you? 229 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 4: I was twenty two when we wrapped. 230 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean because I just worked with Melissa 231 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 3: Gilbert who was on Little House in the Prairie. We 232 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 3: to play in New York and you know, from nine 233 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 3: to nineteen. Yeah, absolutely, same experience and for her it 234 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 3: was a great experience, and it was for you as well. Right. 235 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, I was very fortunate and I consider 236 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 4: it to be an incredible place to have grown up. Yeah, 237 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 4: and look, I mean, look at the relationships formed that 238 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 4: are still in my life. You know, I've watched Emerson 239 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 4: grow up and Terry I was like twenty plus. 240 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 2: Years yeah, seven when the show started. 241 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: I mean, we really do think of ourselves as like, 242 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: you know, like second mom and siblings'. You know, Andrew 243 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: has come to our house for dinner over the years, 244 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: and like I said, I was at the wedding and 245 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: it's it is sort of amazing to have maintained that connection. 246 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: I'm so proud of who she grew up to be 247 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: and was proud of her then too. It's a pretty 248 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: special relationship, it is, for sure. So back to the show. So, 249 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure you never found yourself at the bottom of 250 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: an empty cement pool before or since, did you? It 251 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: started to strike us. I guess around episode three that 252 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: we really felt like the husbands started to land in 253 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: their own lanes, which we didn't really remember, Like like 254 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: Carlos seems a little more abusive than we kind of 255 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: called him. 256 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 3: I didn't, I didn't remember him being so coarse. Yeah. 257 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 3: But however, it was a good thing because otherwise she 258 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 3: would have probably hated Eva and have ever affair. But 259 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 3: it was you know, it was kind of the spiciest 260 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 3: little topic on Desperate Housewives right off the bat with 261 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 3: a gardener. Yeah, so you didn't remember that. And also 262 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 3: I looked at it and thought that Doug Savant as 263 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 3: a guest star in episode three. Yeah, you don't even 264 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 3: really know about their relationship. Although he probably was in 265 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 3: the pilot. I didn't really watch the pilot. He probably 266 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 3: was in the pilot. 267 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was in the pilot, but sort of briefly. 268 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 4: I mean he was in the pilot, but I think 269 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 4: he was mostly an episode away on a business trip, 270 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,719 Speaker 4: So yeah, he was kind of maybe. 271 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 3: Just then you get the idea when it comes back 272 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 3: with a crazy house, so she's living in and you 273 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 3: get a little piece of their relationship and so it's 274 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 3: sort of unfold. Let's face it. It wasn't called Desperate Husbands, right, 275 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 3: it was called Yeah, but did take no longer to 276 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 3: establish characters, But that's because we had less to do. 277 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true, but so did that Like, was that 278 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: weird to be a husband on the housewife show? Like 279 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: out in the world. 280 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 3: You know, we knew that we could only take so 281 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 3: much time on the set, you know, except for except 282 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 3: for one of the husbands who took more time than 283 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 3: the other ones and he ended up dying. 284 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 2: But Okay, said I think I do know this spoilers. 285 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 5: You know, we we all we all talked about, you know, 286 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 5: most most of we've talked about who's going to die? Yeah, 287 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 5: and who's gonna who's gonna stay on the show, you know, 288 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 5: because we would get together and go, yeah, I don't know. 289 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 3: I don't know. And then eventually we got to all 290 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 3: the parties the first year because it was such a 291 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 3: big hit, and Mark Cherry sat down and said, Okay, 292 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 3: Paul Young dies, and I'm saying with him, we're just going, well, well, yeah, 293 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 3: but I've got a great I've got a great idea 294 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 3: for for second season. I'm going to chain this guy 295 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 3: up with the basement and blah blah blah blah blah. 296 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 3: Whoa whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's go back to Paul Young. Yeah, 297 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 3: let's go back to that. 298 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: And so you really Mark Well with the behind the 299 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: scenes if he was telling what. 300 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 3: I was a fellow writer he was, I was like, wait, 301 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 3: he said, wa wa whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wah, I'm 302 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 3: playing Paul Young. I don't want him to die. So 303 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 3: I was saved by Stephen McPherson. 304 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: Ah Steer. 305 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 3: I think he said, you're not killing our j R. Ewing. 306 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: Wow, these were such great moments. Yeah really, and so. 307 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 3: I then the second season happened and I was eventually 308 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 3: sent off to prison, and then I come back, and 309 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 3: then Mike goes to prison and then you know, so 310 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 3: I had that sort of stuff going on. But yeah, 311 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 3: we all wanted to be on it for eight years 312 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 3: at that time, but you know, I got to do 313 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 3: other stuff. But I mean, you know, yeah, we all, 314 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 3: we all. 315 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: I was watching mad Men episodes over the weekend because 316 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: I just wanted to be reminded of how great you 317 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: were in that show too. That was another really iconic show. 318 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 3: You know, if one thing doesn't happen in the business, 319 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 3: then you get an opportunity to do that, which I 320 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 3: wouldn't have had an opportunity to do. Ed off to prison. 321 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 2: Thank God for prison. 322 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 4: You know, it's funny you mentioned that not wanting to 323 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 4: die thing, because you know, as the show continues, we'll 324 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 4: see and you know, experience the shock of different characters 325 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 4: dying throughout. And I always thought in the back of 326 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 4: my head. I think Julie will be safe because she's 327 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 4: a child. I think, you know, I think my character 328 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 4: will be okay. But you know, none of us knew 329 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 4: ever who we were going to open up in that 330 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 4: episode and see who was. 331 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, you know you've already grown up, so they 332 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 3: didn't replace you. 333 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. She was just at the right age to be 334 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: able to age with the show and not not start 335 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: off too young and then suddenly have to do the 336 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: five year jokes. 337 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 4: I would have been so devastated. Yeah, just a couple 338 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 4: of hair changes and then we could sell it. 339 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 3: Well. 340 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: Is there anything do you keep in touch with, like 341 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: Cody or anybody that like from I haven't. 342 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 3: I haven't talked to Cody in a while. I've seen 343 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 3: Ricardo in New York. 344 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: He's done. Yeah. 345 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 3: I wanted Jamie Denton sometimes and Jamie. We ran into 346 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 3: each other, I think a number before I left Los Angeles. 347 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 3: We got together a dog I've not seen in a while. Marcia. 348 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 3: I you know, you know, I knew Marcia beforehand. Uh huh, 349 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 3: lay together down at the Old Globe. We did Two 350 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 3: Gentlemen of Verona before. 351 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: That's cool. 352 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 3: And that's when Marcia was going to quit acting and 353 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 3: become a. 354 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: Therapist, right right, right, and instead she got to use 355 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: all that knowledge and channel it into this complicated character. 356 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 2: I'm so curious. I mean, we've talked about this a lot. 357 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 2: With my mom's character Susan. How so many people think 358 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 2: of her now as Terry Hatcher being Susan. You know, 359 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: she's they think she's not a good cook, They have 360 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 2: certain ideas about her as a mom. I'm curious, did you, 361 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 2: because Paul is such a kind of notorious villain on 362 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: the show, what was your experience like with fans or 363 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 2: with people who've met you who are fans of the 364 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 2: show and then meet you in real life. Did any 365 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 2: of that kind of get mapped onto you and the 366 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 2: way it did with my mom's character. 367 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 3: Well, I think it does when it's on, and I'm 368 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 3: sure your mom could tell you this when it's on, 369 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 3: it's not more often with it, and now that it's rerunning, 370 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 3: oftentimes people come up and they've seen it again. But 371 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 3: in terms of your mom, I mean, you know, I 372 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 3: remember your mom is a bond girl in Lois You 373 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 3: were just born then, but I knew her from other 374 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 3: stuff as well, and so no, but you know it. 375 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 3: I know, you sort of see actors and people go 376 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 3: through different roles and stuff, but this was obviously a 377 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 3: big one for everyone in the show, and I think 378 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 3: everyone really made their mark on the show. And I'd 379 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 3: also like to add, at the time this show was made, 380 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 3: there weren't too many women over the age of forty. Yeah, 381 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 3: you know, it was like you hit forty and your 382 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 3: career was over. Well, I think Desperate House was one 383 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 3: of those shows that really showed people are watching women 384 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 3: get older, except for Eva, who was young, but yeah, 385 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 3: a little more mature. I look at it now and 386 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 3: I go, God, we were babies. 387 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: Don't you feel that way? I feel I totally agree. 388 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: I go like, wow, we were just such babies. But 389 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: I didn't feel like a baby then, But I, oh, 390 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: we really weren't. 391 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it really was older women with 392 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 3: kids and you know, but not but still everyone was 393 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 3: very attractive. 394 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 4: You know, yeah, I a good looking street. 395 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: I used to say that if the network had actually 396 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: been allowed to ask our age, you know, if that 397 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: had been legal, they would never have cast four women 398 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 1: over forty to lead a show at that time. I 399 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: just I think they didn't realize I think they probably 400 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 1: thought we were all thirty five or something, you know, 401 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: because we didn't discover how old we all were until 402 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: in the scene in the pilot where we're sitting around 403 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: having coffee after Mary Alice has killed herself, and it's 404 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: like that first scene together. And when we were shooting 405 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: that actually on the set, we were just getting to 406 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: know each other because nobody had really known each other before, 407 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: and so in between takes, you know, people would say like, well, 408 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: what you know, what's your story? How old are you? 409 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: What do you e been? You know whatever, And as 410 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: we went around, somebody was like, I'm forty two, I'm 411 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: forty one, I'm just about to turn forty, I'm forty three, 412 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: and it's like wait what And then evens of course 413 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: I'm twenty nine, right, you know. But I remember sitting 414 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: at that table and thinking, wow, they cannot possibly have 415 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: realized we were all over forty. Yeah, So it really 416 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: was at first, and I think happened so I don't know, 417 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: organically like a like a marriage with the writing and 418 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: with these sort of stereotypical versions of women, you know, 419 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: the perfectionists, the vulnerable, desperate one, the sort of high 420 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: strung you know, and then the sexy one. It it. 421 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: But I think the reason it's lasted and there's so 422 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: much nostalgia around it is because I think people still 423 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: see themselves in these people, even though that's a weird 424 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: thing that Paul like has this secret in the pool 425 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: and then and it's all this creepy thing. This idea 426 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: that people put forward a face that's happier than what's 427 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: really going on behind the scenes is still I think 428 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: so common and relatable that I think that's one of 429 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: the things that continues to resonate about the show. 430 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 3: And I think that, well, I know that Mark fought 431 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 3: for that title becase any I think the producers wanted 432 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 3: to change the title many times. He said no, And 433 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 3: he had the whole story about his mother, his mother, 434 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 3: you know, watching the the mom drive the van into 435 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 3: the lake or something with the kids, right mother, mom said, 436 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 3: I get that, Oh my god wrote this. 437 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is where that you So you're sort of 438 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: confirming that that is where the initial idea kind of 439 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: came from for him, because we'd heard that. 440 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 3: That's what he said. That's what he said was his 441 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 3: idea about housewives and how desperate they were, and and 442 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 3: you think about it and the whole, the whole Mary 443 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 3: Alice story of shooting herself and how desperate could you be? 444 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 3: Then it reflects on all the women in the cul 445 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 3: de Sac. Yeah, and I think that's relatable. And I 446 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 3: also think that marked an incredible job developing the characters. 447 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 3: Like you'll see shows sometimes and you go, you know, 448 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 3: it was okay the first three or four or five shows, 449 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 3: and then by the six or seventh the characters start 450 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 3: to define themselves. I would say the characters right off 451 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 3: the bat were well defined. 452 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we feel that way almost. 453 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 3: Immediately who they were, what the issues were, the crazy 454 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 3: mom for for kids, and and you know, your character 455 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 3: divorced one who has a loving daughter, and Eva and 456 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 3: Marcia and the perfectionist, and they were all it was 457 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 3: all really well put together. Yeah, I agree, And you 458 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 3: know then I think we were foils off of it, 459 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 3: and maybe they developed how we would be after that. 460 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 3: I look at Tom and I go, well, thank god 461 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 3: I didn't play Tom, because Doug was so good at it. 462 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 4: Yeah he is. 463 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 3: He's so lovable, so I'm not at least going Paul 464 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 3: was probably a great part for me, but you know, 465 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 3: but Doug is, and he was so good in that part. 466 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: Oh well, Mark, it was just an honor to like 467 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: share that journey with you, and how amazing to get 468 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,719 Speaker 1: to see you and reflect back on it, and I 469 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: just I mean, I feel like my takeaway of just 470 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: so grateful to have been a part of it and 471 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: a part of a show that has resonated for generations. 472 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: I mean it really has, don't you think. 473 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 3: Well now a new generation now I'm since watching it. 474 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, no, And it feels it feels relevant 475 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 2: even even today. I feel like I know one thing 476 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 2: that we have been asking each other when we do 477 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 2: our episodes is what what is something in your life 478 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 2: right now that is making you feel desperate? Obviously it's 479 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 2: Desperate Housewives, and we focus around a lot of female characters, 480 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 2: but I think men experience senses of desperation in their 481 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 2: life too. I'm curious either how it relates to your 482 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 2: character in the show and your dynamic with Zach or 483 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 2: now currently in your life, are you having any desperate 484 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 2: moments in your life right now? 485 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 4: Desperate actors, Yeah, that counts. 486 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: They're all desperate or. 487 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 3: Any way any way you do it. It's such a 488 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 3: it's such a hard profession that everybody's slightly desperate. And 489 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 3: I did joke about, you know, all of us wondering 490 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 3: who's going to die, and we did handle it like guys, 491 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 3: but I think everybody was concerned about who is going 492 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 3: to die? And you know it. You look back at 493 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 3: this show and today you get show and it gets, 494 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 3: you know, a blip on the radar screen and it's 495 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 3: a big hit. This opened to like thirty million people. 496 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 3: It doesn't even happen anymore. So it was a huge, 497 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 3: huge hit and it was quite a ride for all 498 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:12,479 Speaker 3: of us. 499 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: So what do you said, You just finished a play? 500 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: What are you working on now? 501 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 3: I finished a play in New York in January called Still. 502 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 3: It was a two hander. I hadn't been on stage 503 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 3: for like fifteen years, so wow, lost like fifteen pounds. 504 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 3: It just got my god, the curtain, you know, the 505 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 3: curtain goes up and you can't take. 506 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: Too Yeah, that's amazing. 507 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 3: Working home again except without another take. And then I 508 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 3: did a short small film down in New Orleans about 509 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 3: Bridge of all things. So we'll see what happens with that. 510 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 3: But other than that, I'm heading off to Scotland to 511 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 3: Edinburgh and taking a trip with Annie. 512 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 4: So we're I was just there, were there and yeah 513 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 4: at the end of March. Yeah, I know, maybe I'm 514 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 4: the pole. I was in at the end of March 515 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 4: and early April. 516 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 2: I was there at the end of March. 517 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 4: Wow, well, we didn't know we could have overlapped. I 518 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 4: did the West Highland Way hiking trail and I highly 519 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 4: recommend it if you were into hiking. 520 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 3: Well, we're doing a hiking through the Caswalts. 521 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 4: Oh, oh my gosh, amazing beautiful. 522 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 3: I mean, next time that one. 523 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 4: But yeah, I do have one more question for you 524 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 4: that I hope to make a thing that we do, 525 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 4: because there seems to be a lot of confusion around this. 526 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 4: How to put you on the spot? How do you 527 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 4: pronounce Susan and Julie's last name. 528 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 3: That's interesting. I pronounced it Bowen and Hatcher. 529 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: Oh okay, I didn't. Yeah. It was clever, very well done, 530 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: Very well done. 531 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 4: The mystery continues. Yes, thank you so much for joining 532 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 4: us and being here. 533 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 3: Good luck. I think it's going to be fun. I 534 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 3: think people are gonna if they can, if they can 535 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 3: watch this while the show goes on. 536 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's our hope. And we like the idea 537 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: of like We really do think that the neighborhood and 538 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: all of the things that Mark wrote about and the 539 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: things that the different characters are struggling with does sort 540 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: of resonate into people's real lives and can be sort 541 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: of a jumping off point to, you know, talking about 542 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: what it's like to be human and live in a 543 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: community and but not but also how great the show is. 544 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 4: So thank you for sharing so many great fun stories with. 545 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 2: Us that we didn't know, so many behind the scenes takes. 546 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: I love it. 547 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, Bye bye.