1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:00,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. 2 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 2: Every day waiting Breakfast Club finish for y'all done morning. 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 3: Everybody is the j n V. Jess hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club. 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 3: We got a special guest in the building, Yes, sir, 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 3: got Gerbo. Welcome and congratulations man the number one record 7 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago, grass Man. 8 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm good. I'm good. I'm glad to be here. 9 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: How a feeld number one record? I feel good. I'm 10 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 2: not gonna lie. I feel great. It feel great. 11 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 4: I'll just be trying to like stay in the moment 12 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 4: real just just keep it like up, you know, like 13 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 4: when you where you got those type of moments you 14 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 4: just trying to figure out like all right, well I 15 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 4: me personally, like. 16 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 2: I gotta figure out what's the next best thing, Like 17 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 2: what do I do next? From that? 18 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 4: Like I try to live in a moment and grasp 19 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 4: up that energy. But just keep it going. You're not 20 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 4: trying to catch another number one. 21 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to keep it going. 22 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 3: Did you expect that to be the record because it's 23 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 3: not your typical course, Well, it was just you just spitting. 24 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 4: Nah, Hell Noah, for sure. I was just literally, I 25 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 4: can't say it enough. It was just me just having 26 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 4: fun in the studio. I was in New York and 27 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 4: was in the studio me south Side Smack and you 28 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 4: know south Side Like I really, I'd be having to 29 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 4: give a lot of credit to Big Bro because he 30 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 4: want the only people that could tell me like, rap 31 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 4: on this, just rap on this and figure it out 32 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 4: like just rap And that's what I did and that 33 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 4: that should changed my life? 34 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 3: Who picked it as a single? Like was it just 35 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna release and see what happened? 36 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 2: And it just took over. That's what I'm saying. 37 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 4: That's why I like, as artists, you gotta like really 38 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 4: just bet on yourself for real, for real. Because I 39 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 4: was in the in a mold of just trying to 40 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 4: do music and see what the streets connected to. 41 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 2: I didn't even like that. 42 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 4: Song came out and December on my app. I got 43 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 4: an app on my own app, like where I just 44 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 4: put out music material content. All this is just for 45 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 4: the people who really support me. Like you know what 46 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 4: I'm saying, my fans, theyn't know about the g app. 47 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 4: I put it out on my app on a project 48 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 4: that I was just recording. 49 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: All samples too, Like I did a project with all. 50 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 4: Samples and it couldn't even go on Apple Music. 51 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: It couldn't go on DSPs. You know what I'm saying. 52 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 4: Like I put it out on the app in December, 53 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 4: and the label put it out on DSPs in like 54 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 4: March April. So it's like you gotta just trash it 55 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 4: and just see what the streets fuck with gra app. 56 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. 57 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: Has it changed the bag? Has that single changed your bag? 58 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 2: Absolutely? 59 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 1: Because see I'll be thinking that. You know a lot 60 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: of people be fronting on like the power of radio 61 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: and having a big radio record. 62 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 2: Speak to that. 63 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 4: Man for sure, And you gotta put money in radio though, 64 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 4: like you gotta, like you know what I'm saying, what 65 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 4: you put in it, come out, We'll go out on 66 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 4: the wash, come out on the wrist. 67 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: Whatever they're saying is you know what I'm saying. So like. 68 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 4: I've always been like I knew because I've been independent 69 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 4: this whole time, So I know about like analytics, I 70 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 4: know about like residuals, I know what, Like one record 71 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 4: can really change your life, you know what I'm saying, Like, 72 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,399 Speaker 4: and I finally caught that record that like that life 73 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 4: changing records. 74 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, the bag been. 75 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: Crazy and the royalties from radio are better than the screaming. 76 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely for sure. 77 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 4: And it's like once you once you get a song 78 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 4: that really go radio. 79 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: It's like it's just like it just changed everything for real. 80 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 4: Change the places you actually perform at for sure, Right 81 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 4: exactly like you could put you could put you put 82 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,679 Speaker 4: money in radio for sure for what to do what 83 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,679 Speaker 4: it's supposed to do. But just like even like it's 84 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 4: a difference between like putting something in radio for just 85 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 4: get on the radio for shit to get like rhythmic 86 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 4: play playlists, you know what I'm saying, Like all of that, 87 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 4: it's just a big super difference. 88 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: Like I'll be talking to like Make all the time. 89 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 4: It's just like once you get a record, Like I'm 90 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 4: not even talking about what legit Like there's certain records 91 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 4: that like the format where you know it could go radio, 92 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like I feel like every 93 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 4: artist all you need is like one radio record a year, 94 00:03:59,400 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 4: just one. 95 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: Like you feel I'm saying, it ain't that easy to 96 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,119 Speaker 2: get one. It's not easy at all. 97 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 4: But like you know, hit Maker, that's my big brother, 98 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 4: Like he the god of this ship, like you fee 99 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like he know the whole formula he 100 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 4: do it like and that's why he's so rich, like 101 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 4: that Nigga richest shit because he on radio every year 102 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 4: at least. 103 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: Point it out right for sure. Willow Herb Willer Herb. 104 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 4: I was just trying to like tap into like that 105 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 4: old hunger, like my old self. And when I be 106 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 4: rapping good and shit, like I be reading comments and shit, 107 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 4: sometimes my fans be like, oh that ain't they Ain't 108 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 4: you heard what? That's little herd, you know what I'm saying. 109 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 4: Like I feel like that was like one of my 110 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 4: best errors of rap. Like I always been able to rap. 111 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 4: I'm an EMC, so it's like I don't care if 112 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 4: I'm not even all the way tapped into like my 113 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 4: confidence and all of that shit. I'm always gonna be 114 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 4: able to rap good, you feel me, But like once 115 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 4: you really focus on straight rap, it's different. 116 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 2: That's what I was trying to do. 117 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 4: So that's why I went and like name my album 118 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 4: or Herb, like I was going up like listening to 119 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 4: old interviews, listen to old music videos. I mean, watch 120 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 4: old music videos, listen to old songs and shit like that, 121 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 4: and like I was just trying to find like a 122 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 4: higher level of rap for myself, you know what I'm saying. 123 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 4: And I say this all the time, like you could 124 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 4: really get caught up in what's in front of you, 125 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 4: Like always been the type of person Like I say 126 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 4: this a lot a lot of rooms that I was in. 127 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 4: I wasn't really in the rooms, you know what I'm saying, 128 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 4: because I'm thinking about like my past. I'm thinking about 129 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 4: what I gotta do when I get out the room. 130 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 4: Like I'm just saying what's up, Like there's certain conversations 131 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 4: that I really couldn't have because my mind is all 132 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 4: over the place. You feel me, Like so like in 133 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 4: this like era where I am mentally, I was just 134 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 4: trying to. 135 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: Like find that old hunger that made me enjoy what 136 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 2: I have now, you know what I'm saying, Like like. 137 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 4: That's that's why I really named my project Little Herb, 138 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 4: because like you were like on the day to day, 139 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 4: I'm thirty years old. I've been rapping since I was 140 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 4: like sixteen for real, for real, Like you feel me, 141 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 4: and I was trying to figure out like damn, like 142 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 4: it's like all the steps to that it took me 143 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 4: to get here. You feel what I'm saying, Like I 144 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 4: forgot a lot. 145 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. It's a lot of shit that 146 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 2: I did that I forgot. 147 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 4: So it's like I wanted to make myself remember, so 148 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 4: I had to like go back in and like tap 149 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 4: in with my old self for real. 150 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: I heard you say a little herb is a full 151 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: circle moment and it's a return to the fundamentals. But 152 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 1: you closing the chapter on the little herb area, what 153 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: what is closing that chapter actually look like? 154 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 2: Closing that chapter is like for real, just letting go. 155 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 4: Like it's a lot of shit that I held on 156 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,239 Speaker 4: to that I just don't need no more. 157 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 2: Like for real, for real, like the street. 158 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: Therapy talk right there, just. 159 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 4: Letting go for real real, and it is. It is 160 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 4: definitely therapy that helped me. It's like a lot of 161 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 4: that you hold on to you just like just let 162 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 4: it go, just let it go and just let. 163 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 2: It find you. 164 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like, no, for real, Like 165 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 4: I was one of the people that just like my 166 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 4: heart is so big, and I feel like people knew that, 167 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 4: Like people knew that, Like they grab me and I'm 168 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 4: grabbing them back. You fee what I'm saying, Like I'm 169 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 4: holding on to that type of shit. It's like that's 170 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 4: just letting that chapter go, like I should like and 171 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 4: people been saying this to me for years and I've 172 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 4: been knowing it, but I never really acted on it. 173 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 4: Like I shouldn't focus on nothing but music and my 174 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 4: family and like God, like that's the only thing that 175 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 4: I should wake up and care about. 176 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: I shouldn't really give a fuck. 177 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 4: About how somebody else eat or how somebody else get 178 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 4: the work or get the sleep or any of that shit, 179 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 4: and not worried about that for years. Like let's be 180 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 4: closing that chapter, like I'm gonna tap into this, tell 181 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 4: my story and just let go for let go and 182 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 4: let God for real for and that go for everything 183 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 4: and everybody. And it's a whole other chapter opening for 184 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 4: me because everything that got me here, I don't I 185 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 4: don't even really have it no more, for real real, 186 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 4: like all my friends dead. I'm finna be a real, 187 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 4: one hundred percent independent artist, Like I don't got no label, 188 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 4: no production company. I'm one hundred percent a real new 189 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 4: person and a new artist. 190 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 2: So it's like I just. 191 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 4: Want to just tap into this shit, do what I 192 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 4: need to do, and I'm already doing it for real, 193 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 4: but just like letting go for real, like I don't. 194 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 4: I don't want to have no attachments other than family, 195 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 4: No bullshit. 196 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: How did you balance revisiting like those old traumas with 197 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: the grown man you are now like you're thirty, So 198 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: you did your whole new level of life. You don't 199 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: shift to the fad shot that kid, nineteen year old kid? 200 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 4: No more? 201 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, for sure. 202 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 4: My homie, my one of my best friends, he used 203 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 4: to say this shit like he only probably like eight 204 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:51,599 Speaker 4: months older than me. 205 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: He like, bro, once you touch thirty, you just gonna start. 206 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 4: I think he's He used to tell me like, I 207 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 4: can't wait you turn thirty, like he turned thirty. He like, 208 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 4: I can't wait till you turn thirty because it's just 209 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 4: like it's like a light switch. 210 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 2: Like shit, just you know what I'm saying, just tap in. 211 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 4: For you and it's for me for real, like I promise, I'm. 212 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: Like, I don't. 213 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 4: I don't be wanting to sound like cliche or corny 214 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 4: and none of this type of shit. But like my 215 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 4: girl is like my toughest critic, Like she wanted people 216 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 4: who really just like stay on me, like she tell 217 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 4: me a lot of shit that I know and I 218 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 4: don't act on you know what I'm saying, which is 219 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 4: coming to like my business, niggas around me. You feel 220 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, like all of that you feel me 221 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 4: like and like to kind of like tap into the 222 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 4: what you were saying. The question is like you just 223 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 4: gotta you just gotta really like just go with your gut, 224 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 4: your intuition. You fee what I'm saying. Like a lot 225 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 4: of times niggas question theyself and feel like all right, 226 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 4: but you know you might know the answer, you might 227 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 4: know right from wrong and not do it because you 228 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 4: question it has going to like affect other people. You 229 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 4: feel what I'm saying, And I'm one of them type 230 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 4: of people, but like I'm one of them type of 231 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 4: people that think about how it's going to affect other people. 232 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 4: And like I was saying that, like because my girl 233 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 4: she like she don't give a fuck, like she don't care, and. 234 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: You need that, like you need it because like I really. 235 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 4: Got to stop caring for real for real, Like I 236 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 4: feel like I care too much and I like done 237 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 4: certain shit or not done certain things because I'm figuring, 238 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 4: I'm feeling like it's going to affect people in a 239 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 4: negative way or whatever way it is. 240 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 241 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 4: It's like if you got a good heart, if you 242 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 4: just lead with what is right for you, like it'll 243 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 4: work out for sure. 244 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 3: Now you talk about Meek Mill changing your life, right, yeah, 245 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 3: he was your inspiration. Yah, break that down to what 246 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 3: you've seen in milk, that meat that made you think 247 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 3: that you can do it. 248 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 2: Bro. 249 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 4: Literally, I've just got done listening to We're Gonna Get 250 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 4: this money right now on my way here. 251 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 2: Like, Meek is my. 252 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 4: Favorite rapper for real, Bro, It's my big brother. And 253 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 4: I was just with Meek last night. We just did 254 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 4: a song last night. 255 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 2: We was in the studio last night, I believe, yeah, 256 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 2: two nights ago. Who's list in the studio the other day. 257 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 2: But Meek is. 258 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 4: Just like like he's like I used to listen to 259 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 4: me and watch me when he was a battle rapper. 260 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 4: But when he really got rich and made this shit happen, 261 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 4: It's like all right, But that like it's different for 262 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 4: me watching like Wayne. 263 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 2: And hole Man. 264 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like I couldn't like I 265 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 4: could relate to it. But it's like when I grew 266 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 4: up and me, I've seen them niggas rich already, Like 267 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 4: I seen Meek turn rich coming from the streets and 268 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 4: going through all the shit that he went through and 269 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 4: really like talking about it and preaching like positivity and motivation. 270 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 2: That shit made me feel like I. 271 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 4: Just want to be like that for real, real, Like 272 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 4: that nigga really like helped me grow into the artist 273 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 4: that I am today, for real real because like damn, 274 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 4: like this nigga, Meek, like it's not like he was 275 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 4: an artist and he was like far away, you knowe 276 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like I felt like. 277 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 2: I could grasp on to that shit and become that. 278 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 4: Like this nigga is a real street nigga that became 279 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 4: the biggest in the world. Like he became the biggest 280 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 4: best rat and he's. 281 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 2: A rap guy. 282 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 4: Like I love rapping. I'm an mc so I studied 283 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 4: that first and foremost. But just a blueprinter like that nigga, 284 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 4: Like he like he gave you the real blueprint. Like 285 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 4: you get on, you take care of niggas, you do 286 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 4: what you supposed to do. You take care of your family, 287 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 4: your mother, like that nigg used to make me like 288 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 4: I just used to have to just get money to 289 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 4: my mama. 290 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 2: Just like thinking about that type of shit. 291 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 4: You fee what I'm saying, Like I retire my mom 292 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 4: when I was sixteen years old, bro literally and they 293 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 4: put a lot of pressure on me. I told my 294 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 4: mama stopped working when I was sixteen. 295 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 2: She never worked. 296 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 4: Since I'm taking care of her, my aunties, my whole 297 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 4: family since I was sixteen, that's a lot of pressure. 298 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 2: I hell, lo the pressure, a lot of pressure. 299 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 3: But how I was one question I was gonna say, 300 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 3: So now you're the meat meal for a lot of 301 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 3: these younger artists. So what do you show them to 302 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 3: show them that they can do it? 303 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 2: What do you do different? 304 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 3: So because you know you got a lot of kids 305 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 3: watching me, they want. 306 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 2: To be increble for sure. 307 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 4: Like for me, it's I just try to like what's 308 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 4: the word, Like you gotta like show them's like like. 309 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 2: What Mek did for real, like show feel tangible. 310 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 4: You just gotta showing like Like the thing with me 311 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 4: that I feel like make a difference a lot is 312 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 4: I let people see me in a physical like you 313 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 4: gotta see it, like have conversations. 314 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 2: Like seeing is believing. 315 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 4: You feel what I'm saying, Like, you know you could do 316 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 4: this when you could actually get in front of somebody 317 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 4: like me. Growing up, I never seen nobody that I 318 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 4: looked up to, and I wanted to be like in 319 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 4: front of me talking to me. You know what I'm saying, 320 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 4: Like I just had to have a manpower, like I 321 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 4: could do it. 322 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it. You fee what I'm saying. And 323 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 2: it happened for me. 324 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 4: And when I got a certain age like nineteen twenty eight, 325 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 4: like those ages when I started traveling and having conversations 326 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 4: with people that I looked up to, But like fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, 327 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 4: them years really matter whereas like you know what I'm saying, 328 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 4: and I try to be the person where I just 329 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 4: go back and do certain things and go touch the community, 330 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 4: and you know what I'm saying, tell them that they 331 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 4: could really make it, Like this shit is nothing for real, 332 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 4: but like and I ain't gonna say it's nothing like 333 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 4: it's it's a task. 334 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 2: For sure, it's hard, but it's easy at the same time. 335 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 4: All you gotta do is wake up and strive to 336 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 4: go get it and want to do it and believe 337 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 4: that you could do it. 338 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 2: You just gotta have a vision, you fee what I'm saying. 339 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 4: And when I go look at like these kids and 340 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 4: be going to talk and have conversations, like they got 341 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 4: the same power that I got, Like they really got 342 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 4: something in them. They just don't think it's possible. This 343 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 4: shit is really possible, like they when you wake up 344 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 4: and all you got is this four block radius and 345 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 4: your hood and the shit that you're dealing with every day, 346 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 4: you think that's your life, but it's like it's so 347 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 4: much outside of that. All you gotta know is how 348 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 4: to break that cycle. And you feel what I'm saying, like, 349 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 4: that's that's the thing with me, Like I feel like 350 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 4: that's what make a difference in why people like believe 351 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 4: in me because I try. 352 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 2: I let him touch me. I let him, you know. 353 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: Paul's like, you know what I'm saying. I go see 354 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 2: the people. 355 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about something now, And you made me think 356 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: about it when you said you've been rapping since she 357 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: was nineteen, because I can remember like your first friend, 358 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: I can remember your first early breakfast club interviews. Right. 359 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: But then it started getting me thinking about all of 360 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: these artists we've seen from Chicago that have come through 361 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: come through here the past fifteen years. 362 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 2: You talk about what's possible. 363 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: Man, you are proof that's surviving as possible, and Chief 364 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: Keiths proof that's surviving. 365 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 2: Is sure so so definitely know what I mean? 366 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: People like Dirk that's locked up, people like Bond that's 367 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: no longer here, plenty of other artists you probably interview 368 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: from Chicago. 369 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 2: How does that feel? It feel great? 370 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: Man? 371 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: You know, And I'm gonna say this again. 372 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 4: I'm gonna shout make out real quick because he just 373 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 4: told me the other day and it's like he told 374 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 4: me this before, but him telling me the other. 375 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 2: Day is just like. 376 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 4: If a difference, a different feeling to him saying. It's 377 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 4: like he's like, man, want you to chosen one. It's 378 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 4: certain things that just affect you differently, you know what 379 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 4: I'm saying. And I learned that from the streets, Like 380 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 4: I didn't bump my head so many times and did 381 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 4: so much and been arrested in and fell off and 382 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 4: came back or whatever the case may be. 383 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 384 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 4: It's like when you do certain things, God just punished 385 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 4: you differently because you can't get. 386 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 2: Away with that. 387 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 4: You fee what I'm saying, Like you would think you 388 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 4: would see somebody else doing it, like, oh he did it, 389 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 4: and you can't do that because God got a different 390 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 4: path for you. 391 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: And like. 392 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 4: Surviving in Chicago, just making it out of the streets 393 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 4: alone is a blessing. Like it's literally like I'd be 394 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 4: seeing some of my homies and certain people that just 395 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 4: like but and I understand that other people don't get it. 396 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 4: Like it's certain people where you just like you just 397 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 4: like wash your hands with everything. I know, certain niggas 398 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 4: that was real menaces in the streets that don't do 399 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 4: nothing but just be at home with their girl and 400 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 4: their kids now because they just want peace. Like damn, 401 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 4: I made it out this shit. I can't believe I'm 402 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 4: still alive. Like a lot of people never experience life 403 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 4: to that capacity where they're just grateful that they're alive, 404 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 4: that they still here, you knowe what I'm saying. And 405 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 4: it's a lot of people when it comes surviving, you 406 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 4: gotta you gotta make decisions, and it gotta be calculated, 407 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 4: and it's a lot of people that's just raised off 408 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 4: survival or. 409 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 2: You will do anything. 410 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 4: It's a difference like when you survive and you just 411 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 4: raised off survival, Like I'm trying to explain that with Like, 412 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 4: it's certain people where if you just like survival is 413 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 4: your first. 414 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 2: Instinct, you will do anything. 415 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 4: You will kill your closest friend, you a snitch, rob 416 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 4: steal from your mama, your grandma, and and you gotta 417 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 4: understand this, like it's just life. It's certain people who 418 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 4: don't know nothing else. They was raised off of survival. 419 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 4: They mother and father raised them off of survivals. So 420 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 4: it's like a lot of people don't understand that, you 421 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, It's just me being here today. 422 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 4: I try to, Like I think that's one of the 423 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 4: reasons why, like I probably got took advantage of so 424 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 4: much because I understand both sides of the fence, and 425 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 4: I try to get everybody the benefit. 426 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 2: Of the doubt, you know what I'm saying. 427 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 4: Like I try to, like I try to think about 428 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 4: putting myself in other people's shoes before I make a decision, 429 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Like I always before I 430 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 4: do anything, I always think about the consequences, repercussions, everything. 431 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 4: So if I do something to anybody or do anything, 432 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 4: I thought about it. So many times, I'm comfortable with 433 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 4: how it play out, you know what I'm saying, and 434 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 4: like you like, it's only certain people that think like that, 435 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 4: especially in life and coming from Chicago, you gotta think 436 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 4: about both sides of the fence. It's certain people that 437 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 4: think a lot, and it's certain people that don't think 438 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 4: at all. You feel me and this shit like, it's 439 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 4: a blessing to be for sure, for sure, because I've 440 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 4: seen a lot. I experienced a lot. I've seen a 441 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 4: lot of death. 442 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 2: And. 443 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 4: I just come from one of the toughest neighborhoods in Chicago, 444 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 4: like one of the most poverty struck in neighborhoods where 445 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 4: it's like I was a kid and people used to 446 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 4: like a lady walked out. I think I said this 447 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 4: before on a breakfast club interview when I was when 448 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 4: I was in Shorty, Like a lady walked up on me. 449 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 2: I'm waiting on my mom. She coming from the laundry. Man. 450 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 2: Lady walked up on me, like, you got some C 451 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 2: I'm like m hmm, like what. I'm like what. She's like, 452 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 2: you got some C? 453 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 4: She asks for crack. I'm like nine years old, I'm 454 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 4: like nineteen. Wait, on my mama to come in the 455 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 4: house like you got some sea. I'm like, what, Yeah, 456 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 4: she asked me if I had cracked, literally a kid 457 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 4: three in the morning, I'm outside because that's now you're selling. 458 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: Crack for real, for real, So when did you get some? 459 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: That's the statute of limitations with this ship for real 460 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 2: crack a statute of limitations for sure. But I always 461 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 2: been one of them kids. It's like. 462 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 4: I just wanted to get money. I knew how to 463 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 4: get money early on, you know what I'm saying. And 464 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 4: I used to do shit to just get fly, like 465 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 4: get fresh and shit, you know what I'm saying. And 466 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 4: I'm blessed that I didn't have to do it for long. 467 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 4: You feel me like I ain't got Like I started 468 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 4: really making money off music at sixteen years old, but 469 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 4: I was outside two for sure. 470 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: What the first record you made money off it? What 471 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: did the Nicky record right with Chicago? 472 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,479 Speaker 2: Oh? The first record? 473 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 4: I actually like when we started making money, like after 474 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 4: Killshit came out? 475 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, killed Shit. Yeah. 476 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 3: I was gonna ask what you know? He mentioned Sosa, 477 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 3: He mentioned Vaughan mentioned Dirt. 478 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 2: Have you spoke to Dirt? 479 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? 480 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, I supposed to I supposed to Smirk saw the 481 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 4: dirt probably like a month, a month or two ago. 482 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 3: How is he doing? 483 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, he doing good for sure, like mentally And that's 484 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 4: the thing about Smirk. If you know him, you know 485 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 4: he good like that. Nigga's really a real discipline mentally 486 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 4: strong nigga for real, for real like this shit just 487 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 4: like he just like this is just a part of 488 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 4: his journey. Like he know he coming from under this shit. 489 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 4: We all know he coming from under this the shit, 490 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But like he's he he 491 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 4: won them type of niggas, like he never gonna lose hisself. 492 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 4: All he doing is praying, talking to his family, like 493 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 4: connecting with God. You know what I'm saying, Like shit 494 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 4: like that, and yeah, Smirk definitely good. I spoke to him. 495 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 4: I sent them like a little snippet of music that 496 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 4: I'm putting out and the music that I like was 497 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 4: saying his name and shit like that. You feel what 498 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like smart brother, Yeah, we. 499 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 5: Smirked so for little Herd. Right, do you are you 500 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 5: getting personal? Like are we hearing the pain? Because you 501 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 5: have been through a lot, said you lost your friends 502 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 5: and then go the rest of your dad. So you 503 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, You've been through a lot of shit. Yeah, 504 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 5: So are we getting the personal getting the pain? 505 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 2: Definite? Definitely. 506 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 4: I'm speaking about like everything I feel like I've I 507 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 4: covered a lot in this album. I'm really talking about 508 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 4: a lot, a lot, A lot, a lot, and it 509 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 4: makes me feel good though, you know what I'm saying. 510 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 4: Like it's like rap always been a form of like 511 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 4: therapy for me, you know what I'm saying. So it's 512 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 4: like certain I don't really like when I'm in the studio, 513 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 4: I just rap, and just like I got to a 514 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 4: point in my life in my career where I don't 515 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 4: think about like how people gonn receive it, like how 516 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 4: the world gonna receive it, how my family gonna receive 517 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 4: it or whatever. I just speak about whatever is on 518 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 4: my mind and go from there. You fee what I'm saying, 519 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 4: And that's how I picked the records. You feel what 520 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 4: I'm saying, and I don't. I'm saying that to say, 521 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 4: like I don't really realize all the shit I'm talking 522 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 4: about and what I cover until I'm hearing it. 523 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 2: Like I'm a. 524 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 4: Speaker, you know what I'm saying, I just go in 525 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 4: the studio and rap and like he had a week later, 526 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 4: two weeks later, like damn, I just said some shit 527 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 4: like like yeah, now for sure that this album is. 528 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 2: And you know, artists say this all the time. 529 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 4: I feel like I always feel like this, but like 530 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 4: you would say, like, oh, you're this is one of 531 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 4: my best projects, Like I don't I'm not even gonna 532 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 4: say this is my best project or my best body 533 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 4: of work. I really don't feel like it's my best 534 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 4: body of work. But I just feel like it's my 535 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 4: best era of rap. I feel like I'm rapping better 536 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 4: than I ever rapped before. Like however they receive it 537 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 4: or whoever feel like this project better than this one 538 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 4: or not, Like I just know for a fact I'm 539 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 4: rapping so good and I gave it my all for sure. 540 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 1: That therapeutic was this album though, in regard to your 541 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: grieving process, because I hear you mention your brother a lot, 542 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: especially on Give It All? How did that help? 543 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie that I've been dealing with DELF 544 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 4: since I was a kid. Bro Like I lost I 545 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 4: started losing friends when I was like fourteen years old, 546 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 4: you know, like, and I'm talking about that. I'm touching 547 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 4: on that my and my album, my project. But you 548 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 4: gotta really like realize I'm thirty years old. I've been 549 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 4: losing people I love for fifteen years and still managing 550 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 4: to wake up and make it happen and beg herbo 551 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,959 Speaker 4: and take pictures and smile for the fans, Like I 552 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 4: really didn't lost some of my best friends and had 553 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 4: to go do a show that same day, you know 554 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like my homie Cap died twenty fifteen, 555 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 4: I had to perform in front of ten thousand people. 556 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 4: I just had to find an emmy. A lot of 557 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 4: people can't do that. A lot of people like, man, 558 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 4: I just lost my homie. Fuck this shit, I'm gonna 559 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 4: go spind like I want to go do the show. 560 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 4: So it's like, I feel like I'm really destined for 561 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 4: this shit. I chose my own destiny, I chose my 562 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 4: own path. And I'm saying that, like for me, they 563 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 4: experience all of that death and feel like I was 564 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 4: numb to it. When my little brother died, it changed 565 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 4: my life. That was some of the worst pain that 566 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 4: I ever felt in my life. 567 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 2: Ever. 568 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 4: I could never I never could fathom like and I'm 569 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 4: a street nigga. Like when I wake up, when I 570 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 4: walk out the house, I feel like I'm gonna die, 571 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 4: like you know, like I really feel like that, and 572 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 4: that's what get me home. You feel what I'm saying, 573 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 4: Like every step, every move that I take is calculated. 574 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 4: And I never felt like he was gonna die, you 575 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like, no bullshit. I never ever 576 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 4: think like him. Hell no, I just I never. 577 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 2: Thought he was going to die. 578 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 4: Every day I wake out, wake up, I really feel 579 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 4: like I'm gonna die. I feel like somebody would do 580 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 4: something to me. And that's just the life I live. 581 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 3: And that's just you still feel like that because I 582 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 3: remember the last day you said you feel like that. 583 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 2: You said you were going to therapy to help you, 584 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 2: and it helped me with it helped me with it. 585 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 2: But like, nah, hell no. 586 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 4: And I'm glad that even going through therapy and and 587 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 4: like growing and healing the way that I've healed in 588 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 4: my life, I'm kind of glad that I never lost 589 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 4: that edge for real, because that's how I protect myself, 590 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 4: That's how I protect my children, that's how I make 591 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 4: sure I get back home. You feel I'm saying like, 592 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 4: and I'm not out here thuging. I ain't wild, and 593 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 4: I ain't doing no crazy shit. Some days I leave 594 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 4: the house and it just be just me by myself, 595 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 4: no security, nothing, But I'm still on point. I'm still 596 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 4: watching my back, I'm still aware of my surroundings. You 597 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 4: feel I'm saying. So it's like I'm glad that I 598 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 4: never lost that edge for real, for real, And when 599 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 4: like going back to what you know what I'm saying, 600 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 4: what you said, Charla Magne, Like when I when my 601 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 4: little brother died, I lost myself, Like I became an alcoholic, 602 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 4: like a badass alcoholic. I never used to drink bro 603 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 4: I used to drink a fifth of liquor every single day, 604 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 4: like every day by myself. 605 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 2: Like, and. 606 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 4: My girl was pregnant when he died, you feel me, like, 607 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 4: and I was like I was trying to like. 608 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 2: Not be that weak around her. 609 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 4: You feel me because she she know I didn't been 610 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 4: through shit, like she didn't been around me, and I 611 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:49,959 Speaker 4: didn't lost homies. 612 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying, Like, and. 613 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,239 Speaker 4: She used to like say shit like snap out of it, 614 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 4: like you feel me like she used to like say it. 615 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 2: But it's like I can't. It was just so hard 616 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 2: for me. 617 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 4: I really couldn't for real, Like I used to have 618 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 4: to leave the house just to go cry, like swear 619 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 4: to God, like just go get in the con just 620 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 4: cry for hours straight because I ain't want to do 621 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 4: that in front of her. And I felt like I 622 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 4: should have. I should have, I should have, but I 623 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 4: was like. 624 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 5: I don't know, I just And when she said snap 625 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 5: out of it, what does she mean, like. 626 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 4: Not snap out of the grief, snap out of the healing, 627 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 4: snap out of the crashing out like drinking, drinking every 628 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 4: day and wanting to go to the club and just 629 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 4: feel something because I really can't. 630 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 2: Feel nothing, you know what I'm saying. 631 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,479 Speaker 4: Like that was like that's what she used to tell 632 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,360 Speaker 4: me to snap out of and it was like it 633 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 4: was hard, man, I ain't gonna lie. 634 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: Did people in your family try to like blame you because, 635 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: you know, for whatever reason, when you're the person that 636 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: made it when something bad go happen, they feel like 637 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: your success and your money could have kept that person 638 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: from being in that situation. 639 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 4: Nah, not really for real, for real, Like honestly, they didn't. 640 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 4: And that was like the the biggest blessing. Nobody ever 641 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 4: blamed me for real, real, And I had a conversation 642 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 4: with my grandma and I said this when I did 643 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 4: the This Ship with Shannon Sharp, I just did an 644 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 4: interview with him. And I had a conversation with my 645 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 4: grandma and she made me like she It was one 646 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 4: of the conversations that made me snap out of drinking 647 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 4: and crashing out because she like, man, I already lost him. 648 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 2: I'm not finna lose you to this shit. You feel 649 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. 650 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 4: And she didn't blame me, but like it was like 651 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 4: my little brother was real, like good nigga, a solid nigga. 652 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 4: And I know for a fact he got killed because 653 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 4: somebody wanted to hurt me. For sure, it wasn't my fault. 654 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 4: But she like, you gotta do it the right way, 655 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 4: like if you felsh Like no, everybody we grieve and 656 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 4: we all going through the same shit, but you can't 657 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 4: grieve like that, like you gotta go make it like 658 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 4: you gotta make this shit happen for him, because it's 659 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 4: like he not finna die vain, you feel me like 660 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 4: that was the conversation that she held me, and that 661 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 4: shit just turned me up and one of the last 662 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 4: conversations I sort of got. My brother died at eleven 663 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 4: am or some shit. We was texting at four or 664 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 4: five in the morning. My last conversation with him was 665 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 4: just like, Bro, I don't want to do nothing to 666 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 4: see you win, Like I ain't never ask you for nothing, 667 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 4: like he never really asked me for no money. Everything 668 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 4: I ever gave him, everything we ever did was just 669 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 4: like a bonus like that. Nigga never asked me for 670 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 4: no money ever. He never asked me like give me this, 671 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 4: buy me this, put me on, do this, do that, 672 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 4: And he been with me every step of the way. 673 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 4: You feel me, he just enjoyed the fruit of my label. 674 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 4: That Nigga literally never asked me for no money ever 675 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 4: in life. And our last conversation was, Bro, I just 676 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 4: want to see you win, like I just want you 677 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 4: to do this shit. 678 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 2: And we was. 679 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 4: Talking back and forth, and I saw to God the 680 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 4: next morning that Nigga died. 681 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: So so were you blaming yourself That's why you was 682 00:29:58,960 --> 00:29:59,719 Speaker 1: trying to escape? 683 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, I was definitely blaming myself because I 684 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 4: just felt like and I used to have these conversations 685 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,959 Speaker 4: with him, like I used to really tell him. And 686 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 4: that's the reason why I had to go back and 687 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 4: think and reflect because I used to tell that nigga. 688 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 2: Like, bro, move to La, like he got kids, just 689 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 2: like I got kids. 690 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 4: I used to really tell that nigga, like, man, go 691 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 4: back and take care of them every now and then, 692 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 4: or do whatever you need to do. Send that shit 693 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 4: like Bro, just come with me, please, Like I used 694 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 4: to have that conversation with him, like Bro, just come 695 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 4: to La, move to La, like please just come out here. 696 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 4: You feel what I'm saying because I know what that 697 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 4: shit like, Bro, Like you feel what I'm saying Like 698 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 4: I used to. I used to talk to that nigga 699 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 4: and be like, Bro, just stop going back for real, 700 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 4: for real, because I'm thinking about that shit like he 701 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 4: he my brother was in the streets, but I feel 702 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 4: like he was just naive to the fact like he 703 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 4: really like like I said, like I used to leave 704 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 4: out the house and feel like I'm gonna die every day. 705 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 2: He didn't have that man set. He didn't think like that. 706 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 4: You feel me, I used to think like that, and 707 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 4: it's scammy, Like I hate to see somebody I love 708 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 4: walking like man, this nigga could die like you feel 709 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, And I was blaming myself in a 710 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 4: way because I just felt like I should have, well 711 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 4: I could have. I ain't gonna say I should have, 712 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 4: Like I felt like I could have just like changed 713 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 4: everybody in life by force. 714 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 2: And you can't do that. 715 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 4: You can't feel like you could save everybody, you know 716 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And I stopped blaming myself when I 717 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 4: just realized that, like I realized, like you, like it 718 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 4: was nothing I could do for real, like I used 719 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 4: to really I used to think, like that's why I 720 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 4: was so fucked up, because I felt like even me 721 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 4: being g Herbo, being an artist, being a star, I 722 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 4: wish I was really with him when that shit happened, 723 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 4: because it wouldn't have happened like that, Like I would 724 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 4: have put my life on the line. I would have 725 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 4: put everything on the line one thousand percent, like the scenario. 726 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 2: On how he died. 727 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,959 Speaker 4: I feel like if I was you can't feel like that, 728 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 4: like cause you know you're thinking about every. 729 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 2: Scenario like I'm thinking, like if it was me in there, 730 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 2: like it probably wouldn't have happened like that. I would 731 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 2: have did this this way. 732 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 4: But you don't know like, you know what I'm saying 733 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 4: God is that like he's he is the person who 734 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 4: control your destiny and say, how like shit happened. But 735 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 4: I'm thinking about that, and it's like I really used 736 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,479 Speaker 4: to like really wish I was with him, Like I 737 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 4: just really felt like I wish Like still to this day, 738 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 4: I really wish I just would have been there, like 739 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 4: because I feel like it wouldn't have happened that way. 740 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 3: But how do you stop yourself haashing out right? Like 741 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 3: we've seen it with Gilly and the Bad. One of 742 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 3: the worst things about the internet is the internet to 743 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 3: make you you you lose yourself right here. They'll trick 744 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 3: you into taking you off the street. 745 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 2: How did you say? 746 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 3: You know what, I'm just gonna stay focused and grieve 747 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 3: my brother, but still focus on my family. 748 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, because a lot. 749 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 3: Of times people are like, now, I gotta get my 750 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 3: I gotta get my get back, I gotta do this, 751 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 3: I gotta do that, and it put you in So. 752 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 4: We're talking about like what I what I said on 753 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 4: the interview I just did with Gilly. 754 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 2: It's like. 755 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 4: Naturally, it's like every action deserves a reaction, and I 756 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 4: come from a place where it's like you gotta react 757 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 4: like certain shit you do, Like even if you like 758 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 4: some shit might happen to you today and you make 759 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 4: it home when you get in the house, you're thinking 760 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 4: about what the people gonna say, like what the. 761 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 2: Hood gonna say when I come back, I gotta do something. 762 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 4: You feel what I'm saying, and I want them niggas 763 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 4: like me personally, if I go to sleep, like with 764 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 4: it on my mind, like if I'm thinking about it 765 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 4: all day, I'm gonna have. 766 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 2: To do something like for real, for real, Like if that. 767 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 4: Shit stay on my brain and I think about it 768 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 4: three times, full times, five times, that's what I feel 769 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 4: like it is eligible for me to not crash out 770 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,959 Speaker 4: but react because I'm never gonna crash out because if 771 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 4: I was. I feel like the definition of when people 772 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 4: say like crash out is when you react right then 773 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 4: off emotion. 774 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 2: That's a crash out. 775 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 4: You feel what I'm saying, Like whatever I do to you, 776 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 4: if I didn't thought about this shit and calculating my 777 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 4: steps and whatever consequences happened behind that, that's not a 778 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 4: crash out because. 779 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 2: I'm a choice. I'm okay with what happens. 780 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,239 Speaker 4: You fee what I'm saying like and for me, like 781 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 4: how I stop myself from doing that? Is like certain 782 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 4: shit is not worth it. Like I know for sure, 783 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 4: I know my power, I know what I could do, 784 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. It's like certain shit is 785 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 4: just like I'm automatically like not a person that like confrontation. 786 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 4: I hate confrontation because I only know how to deal 787 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 4: with it one of two ways. Somebody gotta fight or 788 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 4: die or something, you know what I'm saying, Like, I 789 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 4: only know how to approach it that way. Like I'm 790 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,439 Speaker 4: not a person that could have a two hour long 791 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 4: conversation about something and get to the bottom of it. 792 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 2: That's just not me. 793 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 4: So I avoid it every chance I could get, you 794 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 4: feel I'm saying. So it's like, just you gotta know yourself. 795 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 4: You gotta know like you you gotta know when people 796 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 4: say things or try to push your buttons and just. 797 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 2: Let them have it. 798 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 4: Like I don't care about nobody saying I'm a pump 799 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:40,240 Speaker 4: or nobody saying. 800 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 2: I'm a bitch or none of that type of shit. 801 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 4: And I used to for sure you feel what I'm saying, 802 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 4: But it's like at this point, I just think about 803 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 4: my kids, like literally, That's the main reason why I 804 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 4: don't do crazy shit because I think about my kids. 805 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 2: It's like, my kids don't understand what I got going on. 806 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, My kids don't understand if 807 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 4: I end up in jailing them be like, what the 808 00:34:59,040 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 4: fuck how my daddy go? 809 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 2: And I know what put me in jail, you know 810 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. 811 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 4: Like, I know what got me there, I know what 812 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 4: I did, But a lot of times people don't explain 813 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 4: that to their kids, you feel what I'm saying, And 814 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 4: being a father, like you gotta be transparent as with 815 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 4: your kids, like with like that, Like if you make 816 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 4: a crazy decision or life changing decision, you got to 817 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 4: explain that to your kids for real, for real, so 818 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 4: they don't make the decision, so they understand why my 819 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,439 Speaker 4: dad and not coming home all that type of shit. 820 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 2: So I just