1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: There is something that comes up in us where we're like. 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 2: Oh, like they're a little bit too brash or too right, 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 2: They're not going to understand you. But I have to 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 2: tell you, I love and respect and appreciate them so 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 2: much for being brave enough and having the courage to 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: show up authentically as themselves in every space. And I 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: think it is a challenge for all of us to say, 8 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 2: what is what is it in us that makes us 9 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: feel like eh when they're just being themselves. 10 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 3: And that was a black female athlete who's done it 11 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 3: at the heist of levels, giving her take on the 12 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 3: up and comers such as Angel Reese and she carry 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 3: richardson We get naked in this podcast y'all with Sonya 14 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 3: Richard Dross back in a moment. 15 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 4: It's the greatest discourse and entertainment can make you win. 16 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 4: Carry champions and carry champion is to be a champion, 17 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 4: a champion, the CA champion and care with chapion. 18 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: And care with. 19 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 5: So we have had a week, couple of huge weeks. 20 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 3: So I'm just gonna kind of encapsulate what's been going 21 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 3: on in the last few months U and especially at 22 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 3: the top or the end rather of March beginning of April. 23 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 3: The women's basketball collegiate collegiate folks has been really special. 24 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 3: Everyone knows who Kitlyn Clark is, everyone knows who Angel 25 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 3: Reese is. These women have done something particularly special for 26 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 3: the sport women's sports in general. If I'm being honest, 27 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 3: and I know that you all know the conversation and 28 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 3: the narrative around Caitlin versus Angel and what will happen 29 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 3: when Angel gets to the w NBA, and what will 30 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 3: happen when Reese Angel Reese gets to. 31 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 5: The WA and what will happen when Kaitlyn Clark gets 32 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 5: to the w NBA. 33 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 3: But I wanted to have a conversation with someone who's 34 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 3: lived this life, who knows what it feels like to 35 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 3: be at the top of her sport, to be young, 36 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 3: to be a black woman more specifically, and how to 37 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:12,679 Speaker 3: handle the overnight success and the perceived narrative around these 38 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 3: young black female athletes she carries. It's not it's not 39 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 3: my accident that she carried. Richardson and Angel Reese have 40 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 3: been villainized but loved also at the same time, it's 41 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 3: not an accident that both of these women are polarizing 42 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 3: and their young black female athletes that are at the 43 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 3: top of their sport. It is not an accident that 44 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,399 Speaker 3: black women in general, when they do rise to the top, 45 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 3: if they don't fit a certain narrative that mainstream America 46 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 3: seems to embrace, there is the conversation around each of 47 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:41,839 Speaker 3: them that they're difficult. 48 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 5: And what I have been told. 49 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 3: On both sides is well, you can't talk trash and 50 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 3: then lose and then say it's not fair. 51 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 5: If you're an athlete, you talk trash, talk trash, But 52 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 5: when you lose, when you lose. 53 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 3: In whatever capacity, you got to take that l and 54 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 3: you got to take the trash talk that comes with it. 55 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 5: That is you usually how the game goes. 56 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 3: However, I'd like to say in both instances with the 57 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 3: she Carri Richardson and with an Angel Reese, when they 58 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 3: won and they trash talked, America still had a problem 59 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 3: with it. It didn't sit right with some folks, myself included, 60 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 3: because I was just like, oh, I come from that 61 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 3: school of look, yeah, be your authentic self, but come 62 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 3: on now, let's just let's win with some grace and 63 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 3: some elegance. 64 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 5: And these young women are like, yeah. 65 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 3: No, I'm talking my ish and if you got a 66 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 3: problem with me talking ish, so what. 67 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 5: Now? For me? That was Jari. 68 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 3: But I started to loosen up, and I'm like, you 69 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 3: can't tell them anything. Life will teach them, for better 70 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 3: or for worse, Life will humble them. There's no reason 71 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: for me to come in and say you shouldn't have 72 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 3: said this or that. 73 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 5: Life will teach you. 74 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 3: I Eh, Carrie Richardson, she rose overnight, she fell, she 75 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 3: rose again, and when she rose again, she just let 76 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 3: her feet do the talking. She just started to win. 77 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 3: She said nothing, she didn't brag about winning. She didn't 78 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 3: do Now She's like, I'm still that girl, and I 79 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 3: had to learn She's still there. 80 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 5: And I believe the same is true or will be 81 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 5: true for Angel. 82 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 3: But I wonder why we have to take as young 83 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: black women in this sport, why they have to take 84 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 3: so much heat, why people have to be so harsh 85 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 3: and cruel to them. 86 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 5: Bad moments don't define who we are. 87 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 3: A single moment where you show up wrong, you say 88 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 3: something wrong, you talk bad about somebody, you appear arrogant, 89 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 3: that doesn't define you. 90 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 5: I hope that life shows. 91 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 3: Them that there's more out there and more ways to 92 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 3: see the world. And more ways to receive the world. 93 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 3: That is my hope for them. But I surely find 94 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 3: it not coincidental that they both have to be villainized 95 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,799 Speaker 3: quote unquote humbled and then go on about their lives. 96 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 3: I wonder what that is? I asked Anya Richard's Ross 97 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 3: her opinion. She is arguably one of the most decorated 98 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 3: track and field stars there is. She is an Olympic 99 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 3: gold medalist, a five time world champion. I mean she really, 100 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 3: she's done it all. She's now an analyst for track 101 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 3: and field. During the Olympics, you'll see her covering the 102 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 3: sport talking about Sha Carrie because she has been there. 103 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 3: She is legendary, and I say to myself, what is 104 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 3: this about. She's very honest, she shares her opinion and 105 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 3: it's fair. How about that, guys? You know I like 106 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 3: when we're fair. So without further ado, we got Sonya 107 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 3: Richards Ross on the podcast and she is being naked 108 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 3: and she also has a very special announcement. I hope 109 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 3: you enjoyed this edition of Naked with Carrie. 110 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 5: Champion, Champion and Carri Chapion and care with CHATPI. 111 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 3: Well, first off, thank you so much for joining me 112 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 3: on all my platforms. You are always so good to 113 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 3: me and I appreciate it. I want to say something 114 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 3: to you. I like to tell these personal stories, and 115 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 3: I've done this to you before. When I first met you, 116 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 3: when I was on first take, I remember you coming 117 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 3: on and I didn't know I had so much going 118 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 3: on in that time in my life. It was just 119 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 3: a lot coming very fast, and I didn't know if, 120 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 3: in fact we had had a bond or reconnected and 121 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 3: I had really put you in a category. 122 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 5: I was like, Okay, I can't really so I don't 123 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 5: know how nice of you. Don't do she nice? 124 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 3: And then you had turned around and you were so 125 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 3: generous and kind to me, And it just reminds me 126 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 3: that time tells the story for everybody, you know what 127 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 3: I mean. Still, over the years, we've gotten to know 128 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 3: each other, and I've watched you go from this you know, 129 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 3: this Olympic track star to obviously seeing you as a mother, 130 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 3: seeing you as a wife, seeing you as an analyst, 131 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 3: seeing you host your own show, your entertainment show. 132 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 5: And that is scary in itself. 133 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, And what I have seen each and every time, 134 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 3: because I know it's hard to do this. You just 135 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 3: show up your full self, whether you whether you feel comfortable, 136 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 3: whether you know that you're doing it, but I need 137 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 3: to show up and give your best. 138 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 5: Where does that fearlessness come from? 139 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I just want to thank you 140 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 2: for always inviting me to all your platforms. 141 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: It means a lot to me. 142 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: And I think I've also told you this before, but 143 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 2: it's I just I respect what you do so much 144 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 2: and I admire you so much, and you so needed 145 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: in every space that you're in. So I'll always show 146 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: up for you and be there, be there alongside you. 147 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: So thank you for that. 148 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 2: You know, it's so funny that you talk about fearlessness 149 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 2: because my mom always says because my mom is actually 150 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 2: the complete opposite of me. You know, she has a 151 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: lot of fear. Yeah, she's the one who was afraid 152 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: to try. And you know, I think that God blessed 153 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: me with her because through me and through my fearlessness, 154 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: she's also found her strength and her courage. And I 155 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: would say that, you know, between my mom and my dad, 156 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: my mom also helped me see it in myself, you know, 157 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: like she my dad was always the parent who always 158 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 2: saw the vision. 159 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: It would always push me and always encourage me. 160 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: But my mom was also my soft place to land, 161 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: So I needed both of them to be able to 162 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: embrace this fearlessness that I think was naturally inside of me. 163 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: And I'm that person who always says yes to life. 164 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: So it's like, whatever it's come my way, I'm like, 165 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go for it, and even if it doesn't work, 166 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 2: I'm going to fail forward and figure it out. 167 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: And I think that it's been my superpower for the 168 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: majority of my career. 169 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 5: You said your mom isn't fearless. 170 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 3: That's so interesting because normally we take after the people 171 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 3: who raise us. Your dad, however, you and to me, 172 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 3: it's not. It's not unusual for a man to be fearless. 173 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 3: Where are your parents from, because I know they were 174 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 3: both athletes. Where are they from originally? 175 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so both my parents are from Jamaica. We were 176 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 2: and I was born and raised there as well. I 177 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 2: didn't migrate to the States so I was twelve and 178 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 2: so both my parents were athletes. 179 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: My dad was a great soccer player. 180 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 2: You know, I think if you were born a different 181 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: time and there was different infrastructure when he was competing, 182 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 2: he would have gone on to be one of the 183 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 2: best in the world. All of his you know, colleagues 184 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 2: say that about him, and I actually saw film with him. 185 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: He was really great. 186 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 2: My mom ran well, but she didn't go on you know, 187 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: she ran in high school and then kind of transcered 188 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 2: out of sports. But they both were very athletic, and 189 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: like I said, saw my dad especially saw that talent 190 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 2: in me and that drive as young as night, you know, 191 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 2: and really nurtured it. 192 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 3: Being Jamaican, what do you think your quality as a 193 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 3: person as a as an African American woman here in 194 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 3: the States. 195 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 5: What's different? 196 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 3: Because I believe Caribbean culture is different and you bring 197 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 3: that to the States. Yeah, what's one of the big 198 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 3: things that you've noticed your friends that are born in 199 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 3: race here and saying, girl, we don't do that, or 200 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 3: y'all do that, and yeah, y'all got that. Or your 201 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 3: values are different morally or family's key, whatever it is. 202 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 3: What have you noticed the difference? I'm really curious. 203 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say there are a couple of things. 204 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: I would say that there is this. 205 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 2: I think it's true for anyone who was born in 206 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 2: a country where it's predominantly the same race. Right, So 207 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: Jamaican is predominantly black. So the Prime Minister was black, 208 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 2: the teachers were black, the doctors are black, the coaches where. 209 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: Everybody is black. 210 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 2: And so I think that without even you know, someone 211 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: having to tell you or say anything to you, it 212 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: instills confidence in you that you can do and become anything, 213 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 2: you know. And I think that that's one of the 214 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 2: things that I brought to the States was that I 215 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 2: always saw myself as someone who could be great, Like 216 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 2: there was no if answer but about it, like it 217 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 2: was just going to happen. It was about just me 218 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 2: doing the work. And so I would say that that's 219 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 2: you know, a part of growing up in a culture 220 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: where you see yourself reflected in every space. 221 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: So I would say. 222 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 2: That I also do think that I obviously I say this, 223 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: you know, there are obviously American families that are as 224 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 2: close as we are as a Jamaican family. But I 225 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: do think that there is a multi generational bond that 226 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: you know, like where it's like your parents remain a 227 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 2: huge part of your life for a long time, you know, 228 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 2: Like I think like in Chinese cultures and other cultures 229 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 2: where you know, like you nurture that relationship and they 230 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 2: you know, they're always. 231 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: They always hold that really high place in your life. 232 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: It's not like I think American cuture where's I think 233 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 2: it's eighteen, you move out and you move on and 234 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 2: find your own life. 235 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: To me, that's not as traditional in Jamaica. It's like, hey, 236 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: you know, we're a unit for forever, and you know, 237 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: to find that balance. 238 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 2: Because obviously my husband's American, so you'd be like igur 239 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 2: with you need to be on your own, so you 240 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 2: know what I mean. And and but I think he 241 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 2: also sees it as you know, there are definitely benefits 242 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 2: to it as well. So I would say probably those 243 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,599 Speaker 2: two things, Carrie, have been the two most things that 244 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: I've made the most impact on my life. Is one, 245 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 2: seeing other black people being excellent all the time and 246 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: kind of that you know family bond that is just 247 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: never broken. 248 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 3: I was once told the story and first of all, 249 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 3: you're the familial aspect of you is so beautiful. I 250 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 3: think oftentimes I gravitate towards people who have who have that. 251 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 5: That more in them. 252 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 3: I am very much head down, do my job, figure 253 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 3: it out. I was always a social loner and I 254 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 3: and I and I and I thrive as you know, 255 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 3: being raised I have brothers and sisters, but being raised 256 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 3: as only child, I think I thrive, you know, just 257 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 3: in my solowness, which doesn't always work in my benefit 258 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 3: because people be like she stuck up, and I'm like, no, I. 259 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 5: Being by myself, I'm not. I just I'm sorry. 260 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 3: So, but I envy you, and I am attracted towards 261 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 3: that because I too want to let that part of 262 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 3: my my myself show. I think you, as a black woman, 263 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 3: are the antithesis of what they they they they believe 264 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 3: we are right because there's perception, and it's always there. 265 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 3: It's always their bias when they meet us. But if 266 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 3: you look at the jobs that you've had, and I'm 267 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 3: and and I'm in and I'll get to track and field, 268 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 3: but post your career, still working in track and field, 269 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 3: still being a host, how have you been perceived on 270 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 3: an offset? 271 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 5: Oh? 272 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: That is a good question and a very deep one 273 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 2: that I've never been asked. 274 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: And I don't know, I don't know how much thought 275 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: I really put into that. 276 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 5: How about what's the narrative versus who you are? 277 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? You know? 278 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: So, I think that I have been fortunate to mostly 279 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: be in spaces where I have really been invited and 280 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 2: honored and cherished, right, people want me to be there, 281 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: and so, you know, there is this feeling of like 282 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 2: people see me as a champion. They see me as 283 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 2: someone who's in a work hard who is a good teammate. 284 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 2: And I think for the most part, my experiences have 285 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: been really good in my work environments. 286 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: I think that I guess they're you know there. 287 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 2: I think what I've had to do at times, and 288 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 2: I think that you would also, you know, appreciate and 289 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 2: understand this too, is that I've had to have people 290 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 2: understand that it takes a little bit more for me 291 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 2: as a black woman to show up in these spaces 292 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 2: than it does for the traditional you know man or 293 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 2: whoever else is there. I've had to demand certain things 294 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 2: when it comes to hair and makeup and you know, 295 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 2: things that make me feel comfortable, that make me happy, 296 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 2: and you know, I remember there was one point where 297 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 2: I was I was going to be doing the host 298 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 2: and stuff, and I had my hooks in and my 299 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 2: producer was like, can you the who why you gotta 300 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 2: wear those hoops like they're distracting from the mic? I said, 301 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 2: what they're about, black girl magic, and I'm not taking 302 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: them off like it's a part of who I am. 303 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 1: Like it, and you know, he quickly was like, oh, 304 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: no problem, you know. 305 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: And so I think that I've I have this confidence 306 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 2: to speak up for myself because of you know, my 307 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 2: sporting exploits and you know, all of those other things. 308 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: But I would say, for the most part, Carrie, I 309 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: feel like I've shown up and been perceived as really 310 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 2: who I am, largely because I feel like I'm very authentic. 311 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: What you see is what you get. My social media 312 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: reflects who I am. So it's a really good question. 313 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 2: I want to be more thoughtful about it, Carrie. But 314 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 2: for the most part, I feel like I have been 315 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 2: perceived as who I am. 316 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 5: Who I am. 317 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 3: Hey, everybody got to take a quick break, pay some bills. 318 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 3: Thirty thirty second fast Forward if you need it, or 319 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 3: fifteen whatever whatever app you're listening. 320 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 5: To it on. 321 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 3: We got to pay these bills back in the moment 322 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 3: with Sonya Richards Ross. 323 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 4: Every champion and carry champion is to be a champion, 324 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 4: a champion and carry champion and carry chat be out 325 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 4: a champion and carry chappion and carry chat. 326 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 5: Me great it is a sport. And then naked work. 327 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 4: Carry champion, and Carrie Chappion is to be a champion. 328 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 4: A champion and Carrie Chapion, they girly play a champion 329 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 4: and carried Chapion and carried chap. 330 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 5: Naked work. 331 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 3: Hey, everybody, thank you for being patient and also supporting. 332 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 5: We have more from sr R. 333 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 3: Hope you enjoy The thing is and there's been this 334 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 3: conversation around Angel reclately and and how she is perceived. 335 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 3: And you are a female athlete, you are a black athlete, 336 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 3: And if I'm being honest with you, which is why 337 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 3: I try to come here and be very naked, I do. 338 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 3: I do take not necessarily issue, but I do wish 339 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 3: there was more polish around her etiquette and what that 340 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 3: means for me simply as someone who covers her and 341 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 3: wants to present her because I know who I see 342 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 3: me as you can see yourself in her and qualities 343 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 3: and meaning like the black the young black woman trying 344 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 3: to figure it out in a space where she's rare. 345 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 3: It's easy for them to cast dispersions in label women 346 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 3: they are not familiar with R. But I do know 347 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 3: that oftentimes when I feel like, oh gosh, okay, I 348 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 3: think you, I think I think I think you taunted 349 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 3: a beat too long. I do know that when I 350 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 3: feel that, I know that people feel that way about 351 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 3: me who don't understand me, meaning when I bring my 352 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 3: full self to work, they're like no, or. 353 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 5: Whatever it may be. So I try to be very. 354 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 3: Gentle when offering analysis or critique on her, on the 355 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 3: Shakri Richardsons of the world, because there is something that 356 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 3: is polarizing and I and I know I have been 357 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 3: judged as well in that same space. What are your 358 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 3: thoughts on a young black athlete such as a Shakari 359 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 3: Rigison or an Angel Reese trying to figure it out? 360 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 3: Because when you become an overnight star, it's crazy, it's hard. 361 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 2: So I love this conversation, and you know, I think 362 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 2: it's it's very important because I agree with you. 363 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: I feel like, especially you and I who kind of 364 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 1: come from that. 365 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 2: Old school wing athletes and black women showing up, there 366 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 2: is something that comes up in us where we're. 367 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,919 Speaker 1: Like, oh, like they're a little bit too brash or 368 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: too right. 369 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 5: They're not going to. 370 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: Yes, yes exactly, they're not going to understand you. 371 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 2: But I have to tell you, I love and respect 372 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 2: and appreciate them so much. For being brave enough and 373 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 2: having the courage to show up authentically as themselves in 374 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 2: every space. And I think it is a challenge for 375 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 2: all of us to say, what is what is it 376 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 2: in us that makes us feel like eh, when they're 377 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 2: just being themselves, you know what I mean? 378 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: And Carrie, I grew up. I'm from the era of 379 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: you know, we. 380 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 2: Just want to make t Usa proud and like, you know, 381 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 2: like when you're in the back of your play, you're like, 382 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 2: I'm about to. 383 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 5: Give you buck, like you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah no. 384 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 2: And so I certainly think it challenges our sensibilities when 385 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 2: we see that. But I truly, truly, truly admire and 386 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 2: respect because the truth is you said at Carrie, they 387 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 2: are They're gonna keep evolving, and the woman that they 388 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 2: are today they won't be in five years, they won't 389 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 2: be in ten years, just like I have evolved so much, right, 390 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 2: But they should be given the space and the freedom 391 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 2: to evolve because as they mature, you know, the way 392 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 2: that they operate, the way that they think it's. 393 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: Going to change, They're gonna mature. 394 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 2: But I gotta say I really admire and have a 395 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 2: lot of like you said, a compassion for the Angel 396 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 2: Reesis and the Shaki Richardson's because they have. 397 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: To carry this heavy load while also competing, Like you know, 398 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: like I can't imagine like having to deal with so 399 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: much chatter around me when I'm trying to be my 400 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: best self in sports. Like it's so hard to juggle 401 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: the mental weight of it all with that plus the competition. 402 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: And I'm just like, man, like, thank God, these girls 403 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 1: keep showing up the way that they do, and you know, 404 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: I just that all of us can just give them 405 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: the space to be who they are. 406 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 3: Although I will tell you she'll carry Richardson to me, 407 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 3: maybe not in your world, but to me in front 408 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 3: of the camera life. And this is what I said 409 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 3: about like especially everyone was kind of hot about Ammanu 410 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 3: OCTO's take, and I. 411 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 5: Said this, I said, life will humble you. Why do 412 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 5: we need to do it? I will humble you. 413 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: Exactly. That's sick. 414 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 3: That is It's like I don't need to come on 415 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 3: TV and say what you what what you did do 416 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 3: wrong or what you did do like what you did 417 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 3: do wrong and how you need to be better, because 418 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 3: life is going to show you that. I I Eh, 419 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 3: carry Richardson in my opinion, I'm not in your world. 420 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 3: But in my opinion, after she went through all she 421 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 3: went through and she was still knuck if you buck 422 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 3: yep something someone some circumstance allowed her to realize, all right, 423 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 3: I'm gonna handle this differently. 424 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 5: I'm gonna let my work speak for itself as opposed 425 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 5: to my words. 426 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 3: And so I I think that is when I said, okay, 427 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 3: I respect it because you figured it out. And she 428 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 3: figured that out quick. I tell you, she figured that 429 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 3: out at lightning speed. And so life humbled her because they. 430 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 5: Came on her, they came to her heart. She we 431 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 5: rolls her like this and they never saw where's mad 432 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 5: at her? 433 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 3: And I was like, yo, so I feel like that 434 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 3: will happen with angel I come from the same school 435 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 3: that you come from. However, however, srr, let's talk about this, sonya. 436 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,400 Speaker 3: When we get comfortable and we know are worth, there's 437 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 3: only so much pleasing we can do in these spaces. 438 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 3: Because you said your black girl magic is your ear rings. 439 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 5: I still need to. 440 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 3: Show up like me and if that makes you uncomfortable, 441 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 3: it prevents me from doing the best that I can do. 442 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 3: If I'm not myself, when do you how do you 443 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 3: what is the conversation that we need to have so 444 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 3: that they understand that we are here to stay and 445 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 3: this is who we are. Because I don't know why 446 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 3: we have to have this conversation around black women and 447 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 3: their etiquette on camera as athletes over and over again. 448 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 5: Why do we have to be labeled over and over again? 449 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 5: How do we change that? 450 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a really good question, and I think, you know, 451 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: if one of us had the answer that we change 452 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: the world right like now, it's like, what is it? 453 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: And I think, but I do think it's playing out 454 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: right in front of our eyes. 455 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 2: I think it is these unapologetic young women who are 456 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 2: just doing it, you know, without meeting permission and without 457 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 2: necessarily addressing the conversations. You know, It's like you said 458 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 2: about Shakari Richardson, It's like rose to fame overnight. I 459 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 2: mean the kind of fame that you know typically doesn't 460 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 2: happen in our sport. And then you know, she was 461 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 2: up there fighting every battle, and then she realized, I 462 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 2: gotta stop fighting. I'm using all the energy that I 463 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 2: need for the track fighting everybody on social media. And 464 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 2: then she did let her feet do the talking. And 465 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 2: now she's able to even more so be all of 466 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 2: who she is. So I don't know if it's so 467 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 2: much a conversation as it is just continuing to follow 468 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,719 Speaker 2: the lead of these young people and young women who 469 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 2: are just doing it, you know, because the more we 470 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 2: see it is, the less it feels like something new 471 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 2: and something rare, and it just is just like everyone else, 472 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: you know, and people get to be themselves authentically, and 473 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 2: it also impacts their performance. 474 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: Like look, I mean, look at where women's basketball is because. 475 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 5: Of what you know, I mean huge. 476 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 3: We needed, we needed storylines, and we need villains and 477 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 3: and we need and we need angels and we need 478 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 3: Let me tell you something. I I'm not calling anybody anything. 479 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 3: Karry Rigison, like you said, provided a storyline, and I 480 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 3: hate that it had she had to learn she she 481 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 3: did this, But I hope she understands her value and 482 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 3: what she brought to the sport, right. Yeah, and you 483 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 3: started it, I mean in the Allison Felixes started it. 484 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 3: But these they're like, this is my personality. You gotta 485 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 3: take it. 486 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 5: I wonder. 487 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,479 Speaker 3: I wonder because you have kids, until I wonder, how 488 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 3: would you teach your your daughter to show up? 489 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 5: Do you have a daughter, you do, right, I have. 490 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: I have two sons, two boys. Okay, Gods, I thought 491 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: you had. 492 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 5: I don't. You just said a three month old and 493 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 5: that was little boy. Okay. If you had a daughter, 494 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 5: how would you teach her to show up? 495 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? I prayed for a little girl, but God so born. 496 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: But I love my boys are the best. 497 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 2: But if I were, if I were a girl mom, 498 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 2: I would one hundred percent want my daughter to show 499 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 2: up fully, authentically as herself. And I think that that 500 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 2: begins by making her feel like who she is matters. 501 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 2: That's one of the things my dad used to tell 502 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: me every day. You are beautiful, you are smart, you 503 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 2: are I mean, yeah, the way he poured into my 504 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 2: sister and I, there was no way that we weren't 505 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 2: going to step out into the world and have first 506 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 2: of all, great husbands, which we do, and really show 507 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 2: up fully and do the things that we were created 508 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 2: to do because of his love and support. And so 509 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: you know, I provide that same atmosphere for my daughter 510 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 2: by making her feel like she's enough and she doesn't 511 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 2: have to go out into the world to seek validation 512 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 2: like she would be and I do with my sons. Listen, Lie, 513 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 2: I'd be like, dang, I got it. I might want 514 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 2: to tell it back a little bit. I don't want 515 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 2: him to be too cocky. But every day you know 516 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 2: how handsome he is and how grady is and all 517 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 2: the things that he's going to be able to do 518 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 2: in this world, because you know, it starts at home. 519 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 2: And so yeah, I would do the same thing for 520 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: my daughter. Obviously, I would try to guide her. I 521 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,479 Speaker 2: would try to get for every opportunity to experience all 522 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 2: the things that she wants to do. And then you know, 523 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 2: I do I do, however, think and I you know, Carrie, 524 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 2: I obviously I do love what these girls are do 525 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 2: I do think that it does come with some balance. 526 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 1: Any balance. Balance is the key to life. Yeah, yeah, 527 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: balance is the key to life. 528 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 2: I do think that you have to figure out, like 529 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 2: how to show up authentically in a way that is 530 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 2: still honors your family and God and all the things 531 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 2: that matter to you as well. So you know, there 532 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 2: has to be balanced when it comes to those things. 533 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 2: But yeah, everything I could to make her be, you know, 534 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 2: herself authentically. 535 00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: I love you. 536 00:24:58,880 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 5: I love this conversation. 537 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 4: Every champion and carry champions to be a champion, a 538 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 4: champion and carry Champion and carry chat be out a 539 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 4: champion and carry chapion and Carrie Chappy Rafraid is the 540 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 4: sports and entertainment cant nacket work every champion and carry 541 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 4: champions to be a champion, a champion and carry Champion, 542 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 4: the girl pity shout a Champion and carry Champion and 543 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 4: Carrie Chappy Praid entertainment getting necket ward. 544 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 5: I know that you have some projects that you're working on, 545 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 5: but first of all, when is the time? But you 546 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 5: know what, there's this. 547 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 3: Does this offend you when people say because I remember 548 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 3: when I was in college, I had eight jobs like 549 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 3: you had eight jobs like you are Jamaican and I 550 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 3: did that. Does that offend you when people say that, okay, 551 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 3: good because I want to make sure okay, so your 552 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 3: work ethic it speaks for itself. 553 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 5: It's in the DNA. Tell me about the latest project 554 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 5: that you're working on. 555 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: Yes, Carrie, so I am so excited. 556 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 2: So I have worked on some really cool things in 557 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 2: the past, but this one is really special to me 558 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 2: for a lot of reasons. First of all, it's the 559 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 2: first time my husband and I are working on our 560 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 2: project together. That's nice and you know, we wanted to 561 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 2: do something that we felt like was a real reflection 562 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 2: of like where we are in our lives right now, 563 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 2: like the things that really matter to us. And so 564 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 2: that's family, that's fashion, that's creating lasting memories. That's if 565 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 2: you follow me on social you know we love coordinating 566 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: the family. That that's my thing and been nine yes, 567 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 2: go on yes, And so you know, we launched this 568 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 2: company called Coordinates last year, and we launched it just 569 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 2: in time for Christmas with the idea that families loved 570 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 2: to coordinate around Christmas, and we felt like there wasn't 571 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 2: anything quiet on the market that was like super like 572 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 2: you know, jazzy and kind of had that cool flair. 573 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 2: So we launched in November, sold out for our collection 574 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 2: in December. So you know, going into the new year, 575 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 2: we're like, what can we do that we fresh and different? 576 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 2: And I was like, we've never as a part of 577 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 2: Team USA gotten pajamas or lounge. Were as a part 578 00:26:55,840 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 2: of our gifty and so went to the USOC to 579 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 2: this idea and we are officially the Team USA Pajama 580 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 2: and Lounge where licensee holders for this Olympics in Paris 581 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 2: for the next one and the one in La. 582 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: So I'm sorry, this is amazing. 583 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 5: This is huge. 584 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 3: Okay, So they can pajamas, they get in all kinds 585 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 3: of good stuff. So what does that mean when you 586 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 3: present girl? 587 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 5: This is huge? 588 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 3: I really think this is really special and so smart 589 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 3: of them to allow you to do that. So how 590 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 3: do you how do you go to them and say, hey, 591 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 3: I want to provide this, this this service, I want 592 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 3: this to be a part of the gifting and I 593 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 3: want to see if it works. 594 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 5: So what do they say to you? How does that 595 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 5: process go? 596 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 3: So? 597 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 2: Actually, you know, and one of the things that I 598 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 2: would always say to people, you know, as we're all 599 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 2: transitioning and pivoting through life, is that you know, if 600 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 2: you really think about it, you have more resources and 601 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 2: connections than you realize. So first I went to the 602 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 2: CEO of uy Say Track and Field, Max Sigel, who 603 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 2: I'm really friendly with, who has been a great, great, 604 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 2: great ambassador for me throughout my career and beyond that. 605 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 2: He it's like, okay, I'll connect you with the team 606 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 2: USOC person who handles partnerships and so you know, you 607 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 2: put me in. 608 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 1: A room, honey, and I will close the deal. Okay. 609 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: So I had a meeting with him. 610 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 2: And you know, explain to him why I thought it 611 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 2: was important and the value of sleepwear and how it 612 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 2: could be such a great way for people back home 613 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 2: because obviously we get to get it to the entire 614 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 2: team USA, but ultimately it'll be available to fans. And 615 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 2: I think it's the new unique way for you to 616 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 2: engage with the team because you know you're watching at home, 617 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 2: you got your pjs on, and you know you're kind 618 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 2: of like supporting the team, you know, and you're wearing 619 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 2: merchandise that they actually are wearing as well. 620 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 5: So genius, it's genius. 621 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 3: I am so excited for you, and Honey, all I 622 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 3: know is I'm buying all of them and you can 623 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 3: send me some if you want to too. But I'm 624 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 3: still supporting, so I appreciate you, and I know it's 625 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 3: gonna look good, like I'm not even concerned. And long 626 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 3: and fitted for the tall people, for the for the 627 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 3: people who yeh you got you got all the things, 628 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 3: you cover all the areas and aspects. 629 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 2: Yes we have, yeah everything. We're gonna have the onesies, 630 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 2: the button downs, and our collections are super dope. We 631 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 2: have a blacked out collection too. We have the red, white, 632 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 2: and blue. We did it all, so it's gonna be 633 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 2: super dope. 634 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 3: I'm really really proud of you. The transition is real, 635 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 3: the business is real. I love that the ingenuity. Honestly, 636 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 3: there are people who don't know how to extend or 637 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 3: take it to a next level and transition, and I 638 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 3: love that you're doing that. I think that the next 639 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 3: thing that we are working on after this is this 640 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 3: a book, how to to do it all? 641 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 5: How to to do it all? We have that book 642 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 5: for me. The deal done. That book. 643 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: An idea, you know I'm making it right. I will 644 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: take another job. Okay, So do not play an idea 645 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: in my spirit because my husband gonna be like, what we're. 646 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 3: Doing now, what we're doing now, I'm right there with you. 647 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 3: I'm right there with you. 648 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 5: Another idea, the creative ingenuity. I appreciate it. 649 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 3: It inspires me because I love to be around creatives 650 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 3: and people who know something that's genuinely a part of 651 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 3: their line, and you coordinates. 652 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 5: It sounds truly who you are, so that makes sense 653 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 5: to me. 654 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 3: So that's the passion that you you people want to 655 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 3: be excited about something you're excited about, so that makes sense. 656 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, awesome, Thank I. 657 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 3: Appreciate you for coming on the podcast, young lady. And 658 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 3: is there anything else that you wanted to add that 659 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 3: you're doing because you're covering the Olympics, right, you're going 660 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 3: over to parents. 661 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, that'll be nice, that'll be nice. 662 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 2: Excited yeah, oh man, Like you know, there's certain places 663 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 2: that I feel the Olympics are already special, but then 664 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 2: you take it to a certain place, then it makes 665 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 2: it like uberpcial and I feel like curious is yeah, 666 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 2: one of those places that it's just going to be 667 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 2: a beautiful backdrop for what I expect to be one 668 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 2: of Team usas, especially in tracker field best Olympics. 669 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,719 Speaker 1: Like the stars that are coming up. 670 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 2: You know, America is going to have a lot to 671 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 2: look forward to and be really proud of, you know 672 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 2: because from the sprints to the distance, the field events, 673 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 2: they're just loaded. 674 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 3: So it's going to be really funny. I tak it's 675 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 3: gonna be great. I'm excited. You know, I'm tuned in 676 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 3: all night. Track and Field is the tune in event. 677 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 3: That's that's that's the popcorn and get your popcorn ready event. 678 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 3: That's what we'll be ready the rest of the stuff, 679 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 3: I guess, but you know, I'm just saying, s RR, 680 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 3: thank you for coming on the podcast and being so 681 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 3: naked and honest and just sharing your wisdom and congratulations 682 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 3: on all things I'm here to support. 683 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: Thank you. 684 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 2: I appreciate that. And you don't have to buy anything. 685 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 2: I'll be sending you the collections. 686 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 5: Okay, let me send you my address. One of my 687 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 5: pajamas with the Olympics and stands. 688 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 3: So not only will you see SRR as I call her, 689 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 3: covering the Olympics, but true to the Jamaican she says 690 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 3: she is, she has several jobs. Not only does she 691 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,239 Speaker 3: have this new pajama line that's going to outfit all 692 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 3: of Team USA. She's returning to the Real Housewives of Atlanta. 693 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys know her from there. 694 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 3: There are some folks who don't even cover sports or 695 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 3: no sports, and y'all know her from Real Housewives of Atlanta. 696 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 3: She is returning, and I didn't get into the particulars 697 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 3: of that, but I figured she she likes it. To me, 698 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 3: some of those shows, I gotta be honest with you, 699 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 3: they really are a good marketing platform. They're a good 700 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 3: way to sell your products and further your brand. I 701 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 3: have friends now who are considering doing it. It's really 702 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 3: gotten into that space where you're like the game has changed, 703 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 3: it doesn't have that same feel or branding to it. 704 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,719 Speaker 3: Being on those shows really do help you in other 705 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,959 Speaker 3: aspects of your life. And she has talked about being 706 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 3: the master of a pivot, so that is what she 707 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,959 Speaker 3: is going to do. So you will also see her 708 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 3: there continue to support her pajama line. I think that's great, 709 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 3: and we have all the information in the bio of 710 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 3: Naked with Carrie Champion. Thank you all for listening. I 711 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 3: appreciate you all, and we'll be back next week.