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Speaker 1: Backgrounds intruding me now, my friend host of the John

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Speaker 3: Fairly benign question.

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Speaker 1: People were acting like it's real journalism, that's a basic

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Speaker 3: The answer was awful.

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Speaker 1: She's running a billion dollar campaign, staffers advisors that they

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Speaker 3: What is wrong with these people?

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Speaker 6: Well, she has split more times in the Chevrolet corvet.

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Speaker 6: thing for them. Which, okay, that will make the Democratic

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Speaker 2: And I think that's why so much panic is set in.

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Speaker 1: she's underwater, she's underwater. But look, not long ago, I

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Speaker 1: She tried to run a primary and she bombed. She's bombed.

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Speaker 1: As vice president, if I'd pinned down John Phillips and

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Speaker 6: They Because I don't think they were on the same page.

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Speaker 6: enjoy yourself, and move on. But she had all this

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Speaker 6: think Kamala is Joe's revenge for doing what they did

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Speaker 3: Laugh after all.

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Speaker 1: Okay, now that is an interesting theory, and I had

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Speaker 1: I couldn't figure out the why. So if they didn't

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Speaker 6: Well, my guess is Joshapiro. I mean, he's certainly the

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Speaker 6: And I think if you lose Pennsylvania, you lose the election.

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Speaker 6: That decision that they made for vice president and the

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Speaker 1: Let's circle back to Kamala Harris, because obviously everyone's talking

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Speaker 3: It's the view, it's Howard.

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Speaker 1: Stern a couple questions on sixty minutes, if that weren't

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Speaker 3: Bombing so so badly.

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Speaker 1: And John, I don't understand this woman almost sixty years old.

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Speaker 1: Why can't she even talk?

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Speaker 6: When she ran for office here in California, I had

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Speaker 2: And the most.

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Speaker 6: Common answer that Kamalo would give when they'd ask her

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Speaker 2: And that's what you're seeing happen with her right now

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Speaker 6: You also know that her staff doesn't trust her, which

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Speaker 2: Interviews for a very long time.

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Speaker 6: Well, if you ever played golf forever, you know, played

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Speaker 6: She hasn't done this in a very long time, and

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Speaker 1: So I realized they were desperate just as we wrap

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Speaker 3: I know she needs some help right now, but this was.

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Speaker 1: A mistake, right John, If you don't have a candidate

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Speaker 2: Well, they feel like they have no other choice.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you look at where she is compared to Joe,

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Speaker 6: It's just essentially single women who are keeping her viable

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 6: So you either need to go out, you need to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 1: It's election day because of early voting. It's election day now, today, tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: That all right, John Phillips, I gotta let you go.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, my brother.

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Speaker 1: It's you almost if they weren't terrible people. Like I

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Speaker 3: You don't have the fighter, you don't have the guy.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, it's doctor Leise Smith. Is he Ron really trying

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Speaker 1: we do that, let's do this. Let's talk to you

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Speaker 3: It's cake, go do it. We'll be bad.

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Speaker 4: Do we have a real close ally in prime Minister?

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Speaker 4: It and Yahoo.

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Speaker 5: I think, with all due respect, the better question is

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Speaker 5: do we have an important alliance between the American people

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Speaker 5: and the Israeli people? And the answer to that.

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Speaker 1: Question is yes, pretty interesting stuff.

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Speaker 3: There's lots of interesting.

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Speaker 1: Stuff going on with this administration, Iran assassination attempts, and

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Speaker 1: we're going to bring in an interesting guy to talk

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Speaker 1: about it, my friend Lee Smith, of course, author of

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Speaker 1: the book Disappearing to President.

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Speaker 3: I really read everything Lee Smith writes.

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Speaker 1: So, Lee, I have been fascinated just trying to be

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Speaker 1: as dispassionate about this topic as humingly possible. I've been

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Speaker 1: fascinated watching the White House since October the seventh try

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Speaker 1: to do this balancing act and walk this tight rope

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Speaker 1: of yeah, it's bad to massacre a thousand Jews and

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Speaker 1: burn babies in the oven. At the same time, those

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Speaker 1: people kind of had it coming. And I love the Palestinians.

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Speaker 1: It has been fascinating to watch the messaging.

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean it's big trouble for the United States.

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Speaker 7: I mean not just this particular administration, because I mean,

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Speaker 7: Israel is an important ally and when you start undermining

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Speaker 7: allies the way that the Biden Harris administration has done

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Speaker 7: you send a message to lots of people around the world,

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Speaker 7: not least of which are the bad guys, the people

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Speaker 7: who have us and they're crosshairs. I mean, the one

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Speaker 7: really excellent thing that's happened here, and it's a terrible

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Speaker 7: thing for an American to have to say, but that

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Speaker 7: the government of Israel, the Prime Minister of Israel, Benjamin Etna,

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Speaker 7: who has ignored Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and has

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Speaker 7: gone about dismantling the Iranian access which has caused problems,

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Speaker 7: has caused problems for the United States since nineteen seventy eight,

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Speaker 7: and they have a tremendous amount of American blood on

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Speaker 7: their hands. So while we celebrate the accomplishments of Benjamin Netanya,

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Speaker 7: who we rue the fact that our own government has

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Speaker 7: not supported an important ally and has in fact undermined

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Speaker 7: it and continues to fund the different terror enclaves, including

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Speaker 7: Lebanon and Gaza, where people again, where people are plotting

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Speaker 7: against Americans as well as American allies.

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Speaker 3: Lee, I'm going to.

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Speaker 1: Ask a question you and I've discussed before privately and

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Speaker 1: on camera, But to what end it's hard for logical, normal,

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Speaker 1: decent human beings to look at such a pro Iranian

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Speaker 1: regime like Obama was, and of course now like Biden was,

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Speaker 1: which that's the same thing. But it's hard for people

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Speaker 1: to understand the why. There's no question this country has

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Speaker 1: been enemy of ours for decades, as you rightly pointed out,

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Speaker 1: they have gallons of American blood. How many American service

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Speaker 1: members are maimed or dead courtesy of Kassan Solmani's training

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Speaker 1: in Iraq. I go down the list, But why the

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Speaker 1: sympathy affinity for Iran? Explain it to us in a

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Speaker 1: way we can understand.

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Speaker 7: I'll start with a dispassionate response, because that's kind of

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Speaker 7: how it starts. It's an academic theory, and the academic

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Speaker 7: theory is. The academic theory is you balance off different

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Speaker 7: powers in a region to bring stability.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 7: It's academic, it's foolish, and this may be the way

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Speaker 7: that Europeans sought in the seventeenth and eighteenth century, trying

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Speaker 7: to balance off different small war in European states. The

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Speaker 7: fact is that the United States is a superpower, and

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Speaker 7: our foreign policy is best conducted when we identify different

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Speaker 7: allies who not only share our value and with whom

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Speaker 7: our interests often intersect, but who are powerful and who

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Speaker 7: can get the job done, and that's why Israel is

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Speaker 7: so important. But back to the academic theory very briefly,

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Speaker 7: So the idea is to balance off different powers against

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Speaker 7: each other. You want to have everyone more or less

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Speaker 7: as strong as everyone else, so they've all been deterred.

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Speaker 7: The problem with that is, though, is that you wind

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Speaker 7: up empowering different people who are actually adversarial to your

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Speaker 7: own interest. And that's what's happened by assisting the Islamic

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Speaker 7: Republic of Iran. This is what's happened. The fact is

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Speaker 7: there's also another element, and I'm not going to be

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Speaker 7: dispassionate about this, is but Barack Obama is a leftist

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Speaker 7: right and the Islamic Republic of Iran has been a

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Speaker 7: leftist cause since nineteen seventy eight, nineteen seventy nine, the

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Speaker 7: date of the Islamic Revolution. And why is that because

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Speaker 7: they're anti American at its core. Anti Israel stuff is

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Speaker 7: an effect of that. They hate Israel because Israel is

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Speaker 7: allied with the United States. It's primarily us that they

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Speaker 7: hate because we represent the West. So for the left

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Speaker 7: to align itself with the Islamic Republic is what's been

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Speaker 7: going on for nearly half a century.

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Speaker 8: So these two different things intersect.

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Speaker 7: The academic stupidity about trying to balance off a different region,

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Speaker 7: which would be fine if we were a tiny European

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Speaker 7: state in the eighteenth century, but we're not. We're the

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Speaker 7: world's greatest nation and a superpower, a formidable power, the

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Speaker 7: world's greatest power.

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Speaker 8: Ever.

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Speaker 7: So again there's the academic theory and there's the leftism,

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Speaker 7: and both of these things have led to profound moral

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Speaker 7: rot inside of Washington, d C. Particularly on the left

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Speaker 7: and right now zeroed in on sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue.

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Speaker 1: Lee, I guess we're going to get a little philosoph

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Speaker 1: offical today, just because I love to pick your brain

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Speaker 1: about this stuff. I understand why I leftist to communists

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Speaker 1: like Obama, you know, the Susan Riceis of the world.

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Speaker 1: I understand why they would embrace Islamists, because you know,

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Speaker 1: communists are just about power and destruction and the horrible

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Speaker 1: evil commedy things.

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Speaker 3: What I don't.

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Speaker 1: Understand fully is why the Islamists would embrace communists. Those

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Speaker 1: two things don't necessarily seem to line up.

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Speaker 3: Explain that for me.

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Speaker 7: Well, they will to a certain to a certain extent.

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Speaker 7: I mean, this is what happened with the Islamic with

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Speaker 7: the Islamic Revolution. I mean, all of the communists thought

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Speaker 7: that they were you know, the communists thought, Yay, finally

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Speaker 7: we've got a we've got a horse, wee can ride

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Speaker 7: into power, meaning the Islamist and then of course, within

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Speaker 7: two years and within two years they were flushed at

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Speaker 7: not only of.

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Speaker 8: Not only out of the regime, but out of the country.

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Speaker 7: A lot of the different not in the United States,

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Speaker 7: but if you look in Europe and a lot of

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Speaker 7: the Scandinavian countries, all those Iranians there are their parents

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Speaker 7: and grandparents are Communists, and that's why they got fleshed

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Speaker 7: out of Iran.

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Speaker 8: So it works for a bit.

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Speaker 7: It's a temporary arrangement, and that's presumably what we're seeing

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Speaker 7: right now. Remember that it's not as if the Iranians

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Speaker 7: have shown vast amounts of gratitude to Barack Obama and

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Speaker 7: the Obama team for all the sanctions relief that we've provided.

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Speaker 7: We're legalizing their nuclear weapons program. Remember, they're still extremely hostile,

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Speaker 7: so you know, the communists can can coddle them can

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Speaker 7: coddle their green friends. That's what it's called the Red

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Speaker 7: Green Alliance, of course, so the reds can coddle their

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Speaker 7: green friends, but at a certain point the Greens get angry,

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Speaker 7: they take the power, and they start throttling the Reds.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very reminiscent of the Nazi Japanese Alliance, both of

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Speaker 1: whom fighting a war of racial superiority. That is just

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Speaker 1: so odd how either of them thought that was going

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Speaker 1: to work out in the end. Anyways, setting that aside,

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Speaker 1: you wrote a fascinating piece about Trump in Iran, the

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Speaker 1: FBI's potential involvement and all that.

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Speaker 3: Lee break it down for us.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I want to make very clear first of all,

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Speaker 7: is I think there was a little bit of misunderstanding

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Speaker 7: about the piece. The Iranian regime is definitely keen to

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Speaker 7: kill Donald Trump, right, and we know that not from

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Speaker 7: what the FBI has said, but from what the Iranians

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Speaker 7: have said themselves. Why Because Donald Trump went after the Iranians,

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Speaker 7: he killed their terror chief Customs Sullymani, and the Iranians

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Speaker 7: have also tried to kill other Trump officials, including Secretary

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Speaker 7: of State Mike Pompeo, Iran envoy Brian Hook and two

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Speaker 7: of Trump's national security advisors, John Bolton and Robert O'Brien,

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Speaker 7: So they definitely want to go after Trump. But what

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Speaker 7: happened here was is that Biden's DNI briefed the Trump

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Speaker 7: campaign at the end of September that there was an

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Speaker 7: Iranian plot. Well, if you go through the documents, what

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Speaker 7: you find out it's not an Iranian plot at all.

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Speaker 7: There is no evidence that went through official Iranian channels,

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Speaker 7: and every other example we have of genuine Iranian plots,

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Speaker 7: we see very clearly how it went through official Iranian

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Speaker 7: channels IRGC, especially kuods force.

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Speaker 8: This is how it happens.

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Speaker 7: This was a Pakistani national who entered or who tried

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Speaker 7: to enter the country in Texas in April twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 8: Jesse, here's the insane thing about the story.

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Speaker 7: Customs that the border was not going to let this

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Speaker 7: guy enter again, a Pakistanian national was not going to

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Speaker 7: let him enter. FBI Dallas Dallas office sponsored his entry

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Speaker 7: into the government and he stayed in this country for

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Speaker 7: several months before he was arrested astonishingly July twelfth, the

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Speaker 7: day before the first attempt on Donald Trump's life. So

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Speaker 7: there's no evidence I mean, you and I can talk

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Speaker 7: about that, and I'm sure your audience has You know,

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Speaker 7: your audience has been following this closely too. What happened

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Speaker 7: with the first assassination attempt July thirteenth? Was this strictly

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Speaker 7: in competence? Was it worse than that? Was it malevolence?

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Speaker 7: What I'm saying here is we don't have any evidence

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Speaker 7: of why this man, of whether this man was set

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Speaker 7: up to kill Donald Trump.

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Speaker 8: I think that's not the case.

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Speaker 7: But I think that the FBI has lots of questions

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Speaker 7: they need to answer about the SF Merchant case. And

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Speaker 7: that's the name of the Pakistani national that the FBI

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Speaker 7: let in in April, and that's who they arrested in

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Speaker 7: the Iran plots. The plot was hatched by the FBI.

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Speaker 7: So again, Christopher Ray needs to answer questions. Unfortunately, not

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Speaker 7: all of our elected representatives have done a very good

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Speaker 7: job of holding his feet to the fire, which is

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Speaker 7: where they need to be.

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Speaker 8: For us to get the answers that we that we deserve.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm sure the House and Senate g ope will

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Speaker 1: be cracking down on him in any moment.

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Speaker 3: Lee. Why are the intelligence agencies?

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Speaker 1: Why do they hate Donald Trump so much how much,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. We can decide how much we believe

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Speaker 1: they're involved in these attempts, But why do they hate

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Speaker 1: him so much?

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Speaker 7: Well, you know, Jesse, I'm working on a follow up

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Speaker 7: to that piece, and one of the things that one

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Speaker 7: of the things that I'm finding is one of the

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Speaker 7: reasons they're cooking this stuff up is they want to

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Speaker 7: keep and you might remember some of the reporting right

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Speaker 7: right after the January thirteenth attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania on

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Speaker 7: President Trump's life. The Secret Service is keen to keep

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Speaker 7: Trump out of the away from these big rallies, right

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Speaker 7: because this is I mean, this is this is how

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Speaker 7: Trump breathes, It's how he lives. He feeds off of

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Speaker 7: this energy and he and he feeds his audiences with energy.

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Speaker 8: It's amazing. I call it the Church of America.

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Speaker 7: There's actually a section there and in my book Disappearing

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Speaker 7: to President on Trump rallies, which are just amazing American alebrations,

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Speaker 7: and this is what the regime wants to take away

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Speaker 7: from Donald Trump. So I think that this is one

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Speaker 7: of the reasons that they're doing and also, of course

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Speaker 7: they want to deflect attention away from the fact that

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Speaker 7: it's it's Democrats who are trying to kill Donald Trump. Right,

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Speaker 7: Iranians hate Donald Trump, they'd like to kill him. But

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Speaker 7: the attempts on Donald Trump's life were made by Harris supporters.

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Speaker 8: So that's one reason.

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Speaker 7: But again I think that a very big reason is

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Speaker 7: they want to keep Donald Trump hid an underground, as

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Speaker 7: they did in twenty twenty with COVID. They want to

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Speaker 7: lock them up in a basement. And that's not where

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Speaker 7: Donald Trump lives. Donald Trump is like he's like the

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Speaker 7: bald eagle who needs to spread his wings and be outside,

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Speaker 7: sharing laughs and sharing information with Americans.

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Speaker 8: But that's what they want to do.

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Speaker 7: They want to ground him and turn him into Joe Biden,

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Speaker 7: or they want to turn him into Kamala Harris, who's

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Speaker 7: basically running the Biden campaign in a basement.

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Speaker 1: That is fascinating. I hadn't really even considered that angle

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Speaker 1: of it. Of course, they just want to hide him

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Speaker 1: in a house. Lee Smith, thank you, my brother. As always,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's talk some legal and local next. We

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Speaker 1: love to talk presidential politics. We're obsessed with it. Look

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Speaker 1: I talk a lot of presidential politics myself, but what

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Speaker 1: is it you and I discuss all the time on

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Speaker 1: this show, Legal and Local. That is how we will

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Speaker 1: take this country back locally drain the swamp. You can't

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Speaker 1: drain the swamp from the swamp. You have to take

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Speaker 1: back the country locally. Take back your community, take back

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Speaker 1: your town, take back your county. That those are wins

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Speaker 1: we can have and it's a way we can save

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Speaker 1: the United States of America. Joining me now, Kimberly Herman,

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Speaker 1: executive director of the Southeastern Legal Foundation. Okay him, speaking

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Speaker 1: of Legal Local, You're knee deep in a segregation critical

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Speaker 1: race theory case right now.

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Speaker 3: What's this all about?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so, I mean talking about taking your communities back

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Speaker 9: and your schools back. We're representing a brave teacher up

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Speaker 9: in Evanston, Illinois. She filed a complaint with the Department

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Speaker 9: of Education all the way back in twenty nineteen because

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Speaker 9: her school district is segregating teachers and segregating students. When

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Speaker 9: I say segregation, I am talking These teachers go into

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Speaker 9: a staff meeting. The white teachers are put into one room,

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Speaker 9: the non white teachers are put into another room, and

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Speaker 9: then they are taught lessons about how to bring race

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Speaker 9: into the classroom.

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Speaker 10: So she filed this complaint. The Department of Education agreed.

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Speaker 9: With her, but then Biden took office and the Biden

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Speaker 9: Harris Department of Education is now saying segregation's okay. They

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Speaker 9: dismissed basically this case and they have ignored the letter

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Speaker 9: of finding. So we filed a federal lawsuit on her

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Speaker 9: behalf and now we're fighting tooth and nail to stop

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Speaker 9: segregation up in Evanston.

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Speaker 1: Illinois, separating the white teachers from the non white teachers.

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Speaker 3: What a what a country we live in?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about this Riley gains case. You're involved

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Speaker 1: in Riley Gaines, what's doing a little speaking tour?

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Speaker 3: What are you doing?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so, Riley Gaines, as everyone knows, is going around

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Speaker 9: the country raising awareness about Title nine and trying to

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Speaker 9: stop boys from being in girls' locker rooms, trying to

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Speaker 9: stop boys from being a girls' sports and turning point.

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Speaker 10: USA wanted to bring her to speak on the.

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Speaker 9: Campus at the University of New Mexico, and they said,

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Speaker 9: you can bring her to speak, but you have to

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Speaker 9: pay us ten thousand dollars first to have security fees.

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Speaker 9: While all the time, while there's a drag Queen event

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Speaker 9: going on on campus with no security fees. So of

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Speaker 9: course we filed a lawsuit, and the judge there has

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Speaker 9: issued a preliminary injunction. We're very excited about this, saying

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Speaker 9: that the school can't discriminate based on viewpoint, that it

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Speaker 9: can't charge one group ten thousand dollars and another group

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Speaker 9: nothing bring speakers onto campus. And so we're going to

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Speaker 9: keep on litigating it. But you know, Riley's got to

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Speaker 9: be able to speak on campus. We have to be

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Speaker 9: able to raise awareness to Title nine and gender ideology

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Speaker 9: and this obsession with transiting all of our young children

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Speaker 9: across the country.

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Speaker 1: You take on these universities, how deep does the rot go?

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Speaker 1: Because it's easy if you spend too much time focusing

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Speaker 1: on the headline stories and online videos of some dirty

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Speaker 1: comedy professor, it's easy to come to the conclusion we

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Speaker 1: should just essentially raise America's university system to the ground

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Speaker 1: and start over again.

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Speaker 3: But how deep does the rock go? Kim? You're in it?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean you're not off base here in saying that.

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Speaker 9: I mean the rot goes all the way down to

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Speaker 9: our student governments. Right, We've got kids that are coming

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Speaker 9: up in this k through twelve system.

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Speaker 10: They're being taught to hate one another.

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Speaker 9: They are being taught that America should be a communist

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Speaker 9: and socialist country.

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Speaker 10: Right, they are believing in all of this.

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Speaker 9: It's what they're taught every single day, and then they

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Speaker 9: go off to college they silence the other students. So

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Speaker 9: it's not just the college professors, it's not just the administration.

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Speaker 9: We certainly need alternate and alternative options, right.

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Speaker 10: We need to see more of what we're seeing in Florida.

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Speaker 9: We need to see more of what we see at

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Speaker 9: schools like Hillsdale and University of Austin and things like that,

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Speaker 9: where kids can.

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Speaker 10: Go to college and they can speak their mind.

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Speaker 9: They're not discriminated or punished because they simply don't agree

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Speaker 9: with those on the progressive left. You want to take

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Speaker 9: our country in a completely different direction, Kim.

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Speaker 1: What's going on with Title nine? I feel like that

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Speaker 1: was hot in the news about six months a year

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Speaker 1: ago and that it's just kind of disappeared.

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Speaker 3: What's going on with it?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we've definitely got to keep this at the forefront.

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Speaker 9: And I know that you guys talk about it a lot,

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Speaker 9: but Title nine, it's our law that protects our girls

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Speaker 9: and our women's on college campuses. The Biden Harris administration

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Speaker 9: is trying to change the definition of sex to now

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Speaker 9: mean gender identity.

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Speaker 10: So if your daughter.

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Speaker 9: Wants to speak out about having to change in a

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Speaker 9: locker room with a boy, she is now going to

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Speaker 9: be the one punished. So we filed a lawsuit on

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Speaker 9: behalf of Young America's Foundation and Moms for Liberty. There

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Speaker 9: are twenty six states and many other organizations across this

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Speaker 9: lawsuits suing also, and the judges across this country are saying,

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Speaker 9: whoa Biden Harris Department of Education? Slow down, stop. You

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Speaker 9: cannot change the definition of sex to mean gender identity.

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Speaker 9: And so we're continuing to fight those We know we're

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Speaker 9: going to have to take it up to the Supreme Court,

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Speaker 9: but they will not stop on the left until they

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Speaker 9: change that definition, and we will not stop until we

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Speaker 9: win and make it so that they can't do that.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Moms for Liberty, I love them, and I

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Speaker 1: love that a bunch of moms got sick and tired

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Speaker 1: of all the crap they saw during COVID and they

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Speaker 1: rose up and fought back. But is that anger? Is

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Speaker 1: that activism? Do you see it fading? Away or are

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Speaker 1: they just as angry and involved as they were. Essentially,

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Speaker 1: I want everyone to stay involved, not just get angry

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Speaker 1: because your kid had to wear two masks and social studies.

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Speaker 3: Are people still mad.

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Speaker 10: You know they're mad, but in how they fight, they're joyful, right.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I myself am a Mom's for Liberty member.

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Speaker 9: We have to stand up for our kids. We you know,

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Speaker 9: as an organization, Moms for Liberty stands over one hundred

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Speaker 9: and thirty thousand parents strong. And you know, you can

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Speaker 9: see the joy and the happiness and the love that

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Speaker 9: all of these parents have for their kids. We were

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Speaker 9: just recently up in DC at the National Summit, an

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Speaker 9: extremely successful event. President Trump came and spoke and Tiffany Justice,

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Speaker 9: one of the co founders, got to interview him on

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Speaker 9: National TV.

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Speaker 10: It was, you know, it was invigorating.

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Speaker 9: And these parents are again, they're joyful in how they

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Speaker 9: fight because they know that we have to win for

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Speaker 9: our kids. And our kids are watching, right, Tiffany says

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Speaker 9: that all the time they are watching how we fight

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Speaker 9: for them and how we fight for their rights and

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Speaker 9: to protect them.

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Speaker 10: And so I don't see it slowing down out.

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Speaker 9: I only see it picking up and it's a really

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Speaker 9: exciting thing to be part of.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, keep going, Kim, appreciate you very much.

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Speaker 1: All right, we have light in the mood. Let's make

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Speaker 1: fun of Chuck Schumer next. All right, it's time to

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Speaker 1: lighten the mood. Have you ever heard a theory. It's

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Speaker 1: a conspiracy theory that the people who rule the world

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Speaker 1: they're not actually people. I've heard different versions of the theory.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they're aliens who take the form of lizards on

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Speaker 1: the planet, or maybe they're actually lizard people. Have you

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Speaker 1: ever heard about the lizard people? Look, I obviously don't

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Speaker 1: believe that they're lizards. They are human beings. But every

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Speaker 1: now and then I will tell you something happens and

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Speaker 1: it kind of gives me pause. Meaning, these people are

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Speaker 1: understand they have to pretend to be like us, They

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Speaker 1: have to pretend to share our concerns and share the

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Speaker 1: lives we have, but they're so devoid of anything resembling humanity.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they are really lizards that they can't even do

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Speaker 1: that well. And I was actually snickering about something today.

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Speaker 1: That's all really, as we light the mood here, Remember

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Speaker 1: I think this was independence date, I remember, right, So

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Speaker 1: that would be July. Remember when Chuck Schumer, Senate majority leader,

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Speaker 1: Remember when he posted a picture of.

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Speaker 3: Himself grilling out only.

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Speaker 1: That picture, As you can see, those are raw burgers.

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Speaker 1: It's completely raw. They clearly were just throwing on the grill.

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Speaker 1: And then someone threw on a raw slice of American

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Speaker 1: cheese on the raw burgers.

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Speaker 3: And it just gives me the giggles. It just does.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what's.

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Speaker 1: Funnier that somebody staffer is probably more than one person

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Speaker 1: set up that photo shoot, right, so they didn't understand

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Speaker 1: what it's like to even grill. They don't even relate

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Speaker 1: to you at all, so they.

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Speaker 3: Set up the photo shoot. That part of it's funny.

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Speaker 1: And the other part of it that I think is

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Speaker 1: maybe even funnier is Chuck Schumer.

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Speaker 3: Didn't look down and say anything. It didn't even occur

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Speaker 3: to him.

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Speaker 1: He looked down, he didn't The burger's raw, The cheese

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Speaker 1: isn't even melted.

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Speaker 3: This doesn't look real. Wouldn't that occur to you? It

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Speaker 3: would occur to me, But I'm not a lizard person. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: it makes me laugh. I see them all