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Speaker 1: This episode deals with sexual assault and violence, and we

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Speaker 1: are going to put graphic on the screen of resources

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Speaker 1: you can reach out to. Welcome to Brief Recess. I'm

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Speaker 1: Michael Foot Melissa Albret. Today we're going to talk about

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Speaker 1: the great City of Boston. I like, We're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about Melissa's unfiltered thoughts on picky Eaters. We're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about her mother and how she's going to

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Speaker 1: She's going to teach us how to do it like

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Speaker 1: a lady.

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Speaker 2: A lady. Wait, no, that sounds wrong, it sounds very bad.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about the Nolan Wells case, which

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Speaker 1: has incredible traction online right now. And we have a

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Speaker 1: special guest, Elena Bamfield, who's a stand up comic and

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Speaker 1: has a new special out. And we're also going to

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Speaker 1: answer all your burning questions from the dm So stick around.

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Speaker 2: The migrating Killers today about migrating fillers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the all the MAGA influencers with migrating fillers that

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Speaker 1: hate immigrants. How are you going to hate immigrants?

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Speaker 2: Your faces melted?

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Speaker 1: Why is your cheek over there without a green card?

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Speaker 2: Girl?

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Speaker 1: It's and you know it's true. These fillers are unregulated.

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Speaker 1: You know what, Let's immediately get into a sidebar about

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Speaker 1: plastic surgery.

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Speaker 2: Because what's in the fillers.

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Speaker 1: People are getting dog walked by their fillings.

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Speaker 3: Thing about it is that you could be given permission

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Speaker 3: to do fillers after taking like a course. So your dentist,

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Speaker 3: for example, whose expertise should be teeth, is now this

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Speaker 3: best side hustle is the filler. Yeah, you know, not

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Speaker 3: to say that that can't work, but I think that

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Speaker 3: when it comes to like your face, that's not the

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Speaker 3: time to look for a discount a bargain, do you know,

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Speaker 3: But do you know.

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Speaker 1: What I mean?

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Speaker 3: Like, you should not go for the cheapest version, yes,

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Speaker 3: of the.

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Speaker 1: Thing anywhere else on the body, but the face. I

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Speaker 1: mean Actually, because I'm getting my NAD injections from a

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Speaker 1: lady that I met on the internet and I've never

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Speaker 1: met her. She just mails it to my house. And

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Speaker 1: now that I think about it, these supplements are from

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Speaker 1: someone that don't know, but they come from she orders them.

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Speaker 1: She's like a doctor. But they come from a pharmacy.

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Speaker 1: I think it says pharmacy on it.

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Speaker 2: I could do that. I could make you well, I

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Speaker 2: could scrapatize you a label. Right now, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, but it's working. It feels great. I love the

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Speaker 1: NED injections they're doing.

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Speaker 2: What do they do for you? I'm not really sure.

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Speaker 2: So you know how we sort of joke.

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Speaker 3: Around a lot that, you know, we think that we

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Speaker 3: both have really bad ADHD.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I think it's from the injections.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, maybe so I haven't been joking. I definitely

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Speaker 3: a lot of women have gone undiagnosed with ADHD. It

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Speaker 1: Course they didn't study they were like, oh, we only

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Speaker 3: So there's a there's a woman who is should not

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Speaker 2: But anyway, she did this whole study.

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Speaker 3: She has a center and there was and I went

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is burving. You don't have ADHD honestly, the

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Speaker 2: Because I do that too, because I would have forgotten

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Speaker 1: If, yes, if that's what I had to do. People

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Speaker 1: My text to myself reminders that's where the realty is,

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Speaker 1: You know so much license, No, I have.

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Speaker 2: I memorized it, okay.

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Speaker 1: Because I memorized it because I wanted to sign up

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Speaker 2: But we all did it. We all did it.

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Speaker 3: We're all done to children. When I was in college,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they did this to you all.

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Speaker 3: When I was in college, the the credit card companies

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Speaker 2: But here's a cup, here's a cup. Sign up for

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Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, I cannot and I mean interest. And the

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Speaker 3: thing about it is is like people will get excited, like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: got a free toaster. I'm doing it, Michael. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: Like, oh no, And so what was your first credit card?

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Speaker 3: It was it was a city bank, like Visa or something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're already in debt with the student loans, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you went to college in Boston.

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Speaker 1: Was I just assumed there's very few things to do

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Speaker 3: So I think, Michael, I think you should speak directly

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Speaker 2: I think what you need to do, don't tell me

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Speaker 3: I'm going to say to you. I'm going to say

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Speaker 3: going to say to you that you should reiterate that

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to stop you right there because I

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Speaker 2: To do that. So so you like this, You enjoy this.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, This has been the joy of this is Christmas Morning.

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Speaker 1: Opening up the comment section about Boston. They got off

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Speaker 1: Anis Takaia and they can take all of that and

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Speaker 1: shove it, because I'm coming for you, City of Boston.

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Speaker 1: You ain't got nothing on me. You're all stuck in traffic,

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Speaker 1: going for you, and you know it, and that's why

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Speaker 2: Dogs they're very cute.

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Speaker 1: So that Boston, I'll give you the Westies because that

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Speaker 1: Time you're in line at duncan, you can come for me.

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Speaker 1: You can because next time you're cutting someone off without

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Speaker 3: I mean your edges are non existent. Boston, you heard

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Speaker 1: As long as it's not food picky eater, just as

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Speaker 1: like picky eaters. How about a picky eater in Boston.

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Speaker 1: Let's get them on the show. Where's that representation? Where's

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Speaker 2: I'm sure there is, because they are the picaters are

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Speaker 3: I think, especially because I thought that I was clear

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think I think I thought I was

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Speaker 3: Is that is absolutely true. What I was really talking

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Speaker 2: That's not at all. That's not it at all. I

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Speaker 3: And what The other thing I really really hate is

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Speaker 2: That makes me so mad.

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Speaker 1: That makes me that to you, oh well, we don't

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Speaker 3: But I mean, but the only listen to a husband,

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Speaker 2: I find that so I find it really rude. I

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Speaker 3: The What and it becomes a problem for me is

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Speaker 3: I'm in no problem.

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Speaker 1: Well, the cheesecake factory. First of all, they have everything.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, the cheesecake factory is what the UN used

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Speaker 3: So I am not going to Belgium with somebody who

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Speaker 2: That's the parade, that's what I mean. Going to hell

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Speaker 3: The other thing is, my mom will accept anyone's friend.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna block up, We're gonna we're trying to protect

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Speaker 1: It's not what y'all are gonna say Ani Melissa's mom

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Speaker 3: My mom My mom accepted someone's friend requests randomly, and

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Speaker 1: It, Melissa, why are you fighting with your own mother?

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Speaker 3: So basically what it is is that this woman didn't

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Speaker 3: But so I responded to my mother and I and

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Speaker 3: All right, I'm done talking about Maglie because she's she's

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I've been completely subsumed by videos about the

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Speaker 1: About Edges bumped with vengeance. Yes, because she is here,

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Speaker 2: Blue eyeliner. Yeah, she's in it. No, no, no, I.

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Speaker 1: But I'm so glad that she's here because I've had

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Speaker 2: Part of the course. And it is exactly it really is,

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Speaker 1: All the makings of potentially becoming oops. You know, we

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Speaker 1: It had all the fixings for that to possibly happen,

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Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 1: Don Lemon was talking about it since the beginning. He

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but we would I'm sorry, we would expect Don

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Speaker 1: So it happened on Horne Island, which is a ten

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Speaker 3: One of the things that I, you know, I never

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Speaker 6: So the friends went there with three boats, right, seven

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Speaker 2: On that boat.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and the autopsy inconclusive, so the family is paying

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Speaker 1: Was his body was in the water for over a day.

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Speaker 1: So that call to the Cetau distress call the boat sinking.

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Speaker 1: it wasn't on the island.

443
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 3: It returned and his mom said that when she went

444
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 3: through his phone, all the things that should have been

445
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 3: there were missing, like Snapchat delivers, all those things were deleted,

446
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,160
Speaker 3: and she said that she knows her son. That never

447
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 3: would have happened. I mean, who's deleted? I mean, nobody

448
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 3: is really deleting unless you're trying to hide something. Nobody

449
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,239
Speaker 3: is deleting messages off their phone, no way. You know,

450
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 3: anytime I see like the.

451
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 2: Lone black kid with a group of white friends, I

452
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 2: get worried.

453
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 1: Especially in the South. I mean in Mississippi.

454
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 3: I mean having been occasionally the when when I was younger,

455
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:55,199
Speaker 3: When I was younger, occasionally the only black friend in

456
00:22:55,240 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 3: a group of white people. There have been things that

457
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 3: have been said that I wish that when I had

458
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 3: heard those things when I was sixteen, that I would

459
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 3: have had the voice that I needed to be able

460
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 3: to say something to those people. I'm always concerned about

461
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 3: seeing one black friend with a group of white friends. Now, obviously,

462
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 3: most black people who are friends with all white people

463
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,719
Speaker 3: don't die mysteriously, right, So I don't want to make

464
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 3: it seem that way, But there is I feel like

465
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,479
Speaker 3: we need to tell black and brown kids to just

466
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 3: be careful, to be on alert.

467
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 1: We have to tell white kids to not be pieces

468
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 1: of shit.

469
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 3: We do, we do, But you can't control that. But

470
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 3: you can control what you tell your kid. Sure, yes, right,

471
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 3: so you can control what you tell your kids. No, Like,

472
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 3: there are things I say to KP because she's my kid,

473
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 3: do you know what I mean?

474
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 1: Also, it's also like the way that black and brown

475
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 1: people get treated by white kids is learned behavior, just

476
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: learned behavior from parents, from other adults in their life,

477
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: from other kids. Yeah, so that's at least like what

478
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,719
Speaker 1: I see coming from white communities. I see people who

479
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 1: have kids who treat other black kids a certain way,

480
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I see where that came from. You

481
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: know what I mean, There's so many racial dynamics going

482
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: on in this case, right, I mean the notion that

483
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: if there was an accident and those kids were that

484
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: whatever the accident was, whether it was someone's fault, whether

485
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: someone tripped and fell, whatever it was, or if there

486
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: was malice, The fact that a group of teenagers thought

487
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: it was okay.

488
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. I don't know that somebody

489
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 3: would let's assume that this was an accident, right, I

490
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 3: don't think that anybody who's involved in an accident would

491
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 3: assume that it's okay. I think panic takes over and

492
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 3: you do the first thing. You know, You're like, how

493
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 3: am I going to hide this? Because I don't want

494
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 3: to get caught up and I'm going to get in

495
00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 3: so much trouble.

496
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 2: Right, I don't do.

497
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 3: This, So it doesn't make it okay, obviously, But I

498
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 3: think that, Yeah, I think panic sets in. And what

499
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 3: I think is really interesting is whenever there's like a

500
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 3: terrible idea, no matter what the idea is, right, Oh,

501
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 3: let's say this kid got hurt, he died. And if

502
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 3: I say to you, if you and I are involved,

503
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 3: and I say to you, Michael, let's just leave it

504
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 3: and just run away, and I get you to agree

505
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 3: with it, and then you tell CJ and CJ the

506
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 3: way that a bad idea is infectious. Absolutely, it's so contagious.

507
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 3: And that's especially especially when you're that age. And then

508
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 3: that fear right, I'm going to get in trouble. And

509
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 3: this is huge trouble, right, And the thing is a

510
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 3: secret is no longer a secret if more than two

511
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 3: people know about it, right? And I don't know how

512
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 3: many people are involved in this at this point, it's

513
00:25:59,080 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 3: going to collapse.

514
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: Yes, in my mind it's bifurcated. It is what happened

515
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: on the boat, everyone who was there, right, and then

516
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: what happened after we found a body in the water.

517
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: The district Attorney's office, the investigators, the medical examiners, the

518
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: person conducting the autopsy, the people who transported the body

519
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: without the throat and the neck. In my mind, it's

520
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: like a bunch of teenagers, but also government officials in Mississippi.

521
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: What are they doing right? How has this been mishandled?

522
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 2: By them from the inception.

523
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: Right July sixth and when the body was found, right, so,

524
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 1: and I.

525
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 3: Mean, and where are these other kids? Who's talking to them?

526
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? What? Like? What is happening?

527
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 4: Right?

528
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,479
Speaker 1: Where's the girl that he was allegedly on the island with?

529
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 2: Who is she?

530
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: Where's the search? Where's the man hunt for her?

531
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 2: Is she missing?

532
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 4: Like?

533
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 6: What?

534
00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: As a defense attorney, I'm always what's that behind you?

535
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 2: Boom?

536
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: Hitting the head with fucking evidence of digital footprint evidence

537
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: that is so damning that it totally screws up my defense.

538
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 1: My entire case. That's screwed up because by the phone record,

539
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 1: by the So, where is that in this case?

540
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: I think if they how how come they didn't? Where

541
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 2: is that?

542
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 1: With the investigators in the DA's office, we.

543
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 2: Don't find this.

544
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 3: It is because they don't want to exactly, because I

545
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 3: think that there are too many people. There's and you

546
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 3: know there is always a week link, right?

547
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: And are these white affluent families and a small town

548
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: is the safe?

549
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 2: I mean, but no matter the group, there's always a

550
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: week link.

551
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 5: Right.

552
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 3: I don't care if you're rich, I don't care if

553
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 3: you're poor. There's a week link someplace. Find the weak

554
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 3: link and push down on it. I wonder what's going

555
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 3: to happen.

556
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: I'm really interested to watch because I think I'm really hope,

557
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,959
Speaker 1: I'm really hoping that there will be accountability, that there

558
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 1: will be some sort of I hope.

559
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 2: So, I hope.

560
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: So they are in the throes of the investigation right now,

561
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of attention on this, so every

562
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: little piece of information is getting highly scrutinized.

563
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 3: And you know, the stories like this always bring up

564
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 3: similar stories of other situations. There have been the lone

565
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 3: black or brown person in a group of white friends

566
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 3: who sort of goes missing and what and you know,

567
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 3: and it's always like there was an accident, but the

568
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 3: cover up, the attempt at a cover up.

569
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 2: I don't know if you.

570
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 3: Saw this, but there was this absolutely reprehensible person who

571
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 3: posted a TikTok I'll find it for you, and a

572
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 3: white man who was just like, yeah, that's what we do.

573
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 3: We take we know y'all can't swim, and we take

574
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 3: you guys out, and that's what we do. And then

575
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 3: there was another story. It was a woman in her

576
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 3: family is the white woman, and her family was kayaking.

577
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 3: They were kayaking and she came across this young African

578
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 3: American teenage boy whose friends had left him knowing that

579
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 3: he couldn't swim. She could hear them, and you can

580
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 3: hear it in the video, them in the background thinking

581
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 3: this is the hilarious making monkey sounds.

582
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 2: I'll just find away.

583
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 3: They think, I'm but I can bro you have a

584
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 3: life jacket.

585
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 4: I'm going to die.

586
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 2: I was like, really really disgusting things. And that's and

587
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 2: that is the thing.

588
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 3: I know that people moved to certain parts of the

589
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 3: country to better their lives. Right, you want to give

590
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 3: your kid the best opportunity, and sometimes that means that

591
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 3: your kid is going to be in a predominantly white space.

592
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 2: You gotta be careful.

593
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 3: It's the only thing that I can say about it,

594
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 3: because speaking from myself who grew up in Queens in

595
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 3: a very multicultural environment, but sometimes I was in a

596
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 3: predominantly white space. And I can remember moments of being

597
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 3: not in danger. I was never in danger, but moments

598
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 3: of being uncomfortable.

599
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: You were in physical danger.

600
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 2: I was in physical danger, the.

601
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: Psychological emotional danger, for sure.

602
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 3: I mean, these are things and it's so interesting. These

603
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 3: are things that every now and then just pop into

604
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 3: my head.

605
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 2: I just remember it.

606
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 3: Yeah right, And I'm like, and I wish so badly that,

607
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 3: but you can't. Sixteen year old you is not thirty

608
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 3: whatever you.

609
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: Do, you know, and that hindsight is always twenty twenty.

610
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: I just like, I keep thinking, I keep coming back

611
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: to this, like all those tropes that you just talked about,

612
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: like swimming monkey noises, like those are from before the

613
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: turn of the ninth the twentieth century, Like these are

614
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: one hundred year old, two hundred year old racial tropes

615
00:30:54,360 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: that kids in America are still perpetuating. Yeah, it's just.

616
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 2: They hear it somewhere.

617
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: Exactly, Mom, Dad, Yeah, yeah right. I don't know this

618
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: notion that like those things are not powerful.

619
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 2: It's like they're very powerful.

620
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 3: And I think that people because it makes people uncomfortable,

621
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 3: they don't want to talk about it. And you know,

622
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 3: and people who are of a certain ilk will say,

623
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 3: this is wokeism, this is you want you want white

624
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 3: kids to feel bad. No, we don't want black kids

625
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 3: to feel bad, and we want to educate everybody. These

626
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 3: are the reasons why this is harmful. Because again, in

627
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 3: the second video that I'm telling you about with the

628
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 3: woman with the kid.

629
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: They thought it was hilarious.

630
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 3: Worry about you, right, they thought it was hilarious, not

631
00:31:55,040 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 3: really understanding because their kids the impact of at what

632
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 3: that is going to do to this young because they're kids.

633
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 4: Right.

634
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 2: So the things that I heard.

635
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 3: When I was sixteen, I don't think that the person

636
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 3: who said those things and did those things ever thought

637
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 3: that forty years later that I would be thinking about

638
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 3: it and talking about it.

639
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

640
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: I think about like I see these videos of like

641
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: teachers or principals who have the all are welcome sort

642
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: of like shirt or sign in their office, and you know,

643
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: there are all sorts of conservative people who don't like

644
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: that and attack the school and the teacher or whatever.

645
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: But there is this one woman video where she's the

646
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: woman's like, well, what what is on your shirt? And

647
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: she's like, you know what's on my shirt? We've talked

648
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: about this. You know who I am. You've been in

649
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: my office.

650
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I still distress. She was a principal.

651
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, She's like, you know exactly who I am. You

652
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: don't have to ask my name. We have already discussed this,

653
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: you know, or my office is.

654
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 2: That you have a nice day, missus Smith. Yeah, I

655
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: saw that ye keep it basically holding up the traffic. Yes,

656
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 2: say that, Yeah she did.

657
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: But it does make me think about like those people

658
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: who are the one person who is the safe person

659
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: for you to come talk to it school, everyone had

660
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: like I hope that all.

661
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 2: Kids I do.

662
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 3: To the woman who was kayaking with her family, I

663
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 3: left her message she posted on Instagram. Moms just like

664
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 3: a She's like a mom, thank you for your super

665
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 3: mom Jean right, you are such a good example for

666
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Speaker 3: your kids.

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Speaker 2: Are you okay?

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Speaker 4: Hey?

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Speaker 7: Are you okay?

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Speaker 5: Okay?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Okay. I would.

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Speaker 3: And I sent a message to the kid and I

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Speaker 3: was just like, you need to listen to your auntie

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Speaker 3: and your internet auntie Melissa. And I'm telling you that

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Speaker 3: these are not your friends. It's not funny, it's not you.

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Speaker 2: Were in danger. Better to have no friends. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Also, like, don't strive to be don't strive to be

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Speaker 1: a good a good mom to your kids. Strive to

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Speaker 1: be the mom that all the other kids come to

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Speaker 1: with the problem, be the safe.

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Speaker 3: Mom for all the kids at the I mean I

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Speaker 3: had never seen this woman's contents before, but in that moment, yeah,

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Speaker 3: what a good mom, Yeah, what a good mom.

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Speaker 1: They're Yeah finding like one mom like that at the

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Speaker 1: school who was like.

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Speaker 2: The good the good mom, the cool mom.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, let's take a break.

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Speaker 2: We've got to Oh we have a guest. We do. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm really excited. Yeah, we'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the pod. We are here with Elna Bamfield.

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Speaker 1: She's a Brooklyn based stand up comedian who just released

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Speaker 1: her debut special Untouchable on YouTube. At age thirteen, Elena

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Speaker 1: was among the survivors of the USA gymnastics doctor Larry Nasser.

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Speaker 3: She co hosts the Delightly Spooky Bedtime pregame live stream

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Speaker 3: with fellow comedian Abby Vohman Monday nights at eight pm.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to brief re Sas.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for being Thank you so much for having me,

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Speaker 2: So excited to have you.

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Speaker 1: So we were just talking about Brooklyn and how Melissa

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Speaker 1: are going to thrift Con.

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Speaker 3: With our friend Alyssa, who we talk about on the

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Speaker 3: podcast all the time.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and it is going to be chaos. You should

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Speaker 2: totally come. She's an agent of chaos.

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Speaker 5: What day is thrift Con?

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Speaker 2: Saturday? August?

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Speaker 1: Oh, this Saturday, Saturday? So aris on Thursday, So this

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Speaker 1: all so on Saturday. Anyway, I'll text it to the detail.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to tell the viewers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but we're going to be there.

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Speaker 1: But we love thrifting anyway, welcome to the show. Super

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Speaker 1: excited to chat with you. You've got this incredible special

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 2: How's it going?

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Speaker 1: It's going reception then it's hysterical by the way, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love it. I've seen so many clips on TikTok too.

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Speaker 1: They're all over my feet. So everyone like and following, comment,

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Speaker 1: engage with the posts.

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Speaker 2: Content friends, it's all the content.

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Speaker 5: That's all the game is now is content. Content. But no,

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Speaker 5: it's been going really well.

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Speaker 4: I'm actually I can't be more happy with how it's gone, honestly.

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Speaker 4: I mean it's been almost two months and it's almost

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Speaker 4: got fifteen thousand views, which is wow, way more than

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Speaker 4: I thought, you know, I would have by now.

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Speaker 5: I guess it's just one of those things. Fro'm like,

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Speaker 5: it's not monetized.

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Speaker 4: I don't make anything off of it, so I just

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Speaker 4: like kind of feed off of people watching it and

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Speaker 4: being like, hey, this was great. Unfortunately I relate and

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Speaker 4: it made me feel better, you know, like.

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Speaker 2: What has been.

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Speaker 3: I guess what's the most common comment that you're getting.

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Speaker 4: The most common comment that I'm getting is like people

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Speaker 4: being like, this is real like dark humor, which also,

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Speaker 4: like I think touches me in a way, I guess,

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Speaker 4: just because I'm like, I loved like rosebud Baker.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys are familiar with.

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Speaker 4: Her work at all, but she had a special on

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Speaker 4: YouTube called Whiskey Fist when I first started, and it

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Speaker 4: was kind of about like her abusive acts that would

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Speaker 4: drink and you know, try and hit her but could

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Speaker 4: never land.

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Speaker 5: A punch because he had whiskey Fists or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Oh, so this is but it's dark humor, but dark.

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Speaker 5: Humor, yeah, and so be able.

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Speaker 4: Like my goal was, I guess, to talk about something

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Speaker 4: horrible in a funny way and make other people laugh

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Speaker 4: about it.

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Speaker 5: So it's the biggest badge of honor.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel I'm getting as people be like, oh,

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Speaker 4: this is actual dark comedy. It's not just like shocking

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Speaker 4: and like offensive, you know, right.

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Speaker 1: And so for people at home who don't who maybe

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Speaker 1: haven't seen it yet, you want to just give like

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Speaker 1: a quick log line of what the special actually is.

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Speaker 1: Someone focuses on.

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Speaker 4: So it's basic It's a special called Untouchable. It's about

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Speaker 4: getting molested. Trigger warning if you're watching, but it is

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Speaker 4: essentially like twenty five minutes of just set up punchline

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Speaker 4: about it's like, you know, every everything I could think of,

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Speaker 4: I guess for like what had gone on without being

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Speaker 4: like graphic or offensive, you know, but even taught like

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Speaker 4: making fun of like his name being you know, going

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Speaker 4: by doctor Larry instead of doctor Lawrence.

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Speaker 5: Or you know whatever it is.

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Speaker 4: But I've like I cover everything from like how stupid

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Speaker 4: this guy was, to like how stupid other people can be,

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Speaker 4: kind of like towards sexual assault survivors. Like I have

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Speaker 4: a section in the special where I'm talking about like

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Speaker 4: kind of stupid questions and I've been asked before. One

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Speaker 4: of the jokes in the special is about how Larry

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Speaker 4: Nassa got stabbed in prison, and everyone in my family,

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Speaker 4: like all my friends and family sent me a like

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Speaker 4: screenshot of the article and they were like, hey, check

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Speaker 4: it out.

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Speaker 5: It's your guy.

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Speaker 4: And then I'm like, oh, this is really triggering, but

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Speaker 4: I'm glad that it's bringing everyone together. Yes, exactly, But

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Speaker 4: it's so funny because anytime there's any sort of Larry

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Speaker 4: Nassar News.

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Speaker 5: Even after the special came out, people will still send

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Speaker 5: it to me and be like, hey, did you look

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Speaker 5: at this?

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Speaker 4: And I'm like, dude, you know, I wonder.

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Speaker 3: I wonder what people are hoping your reaction. What are

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Speaker 3: they anticipating Your reaction will be.

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Speaker 2: Like, I'm yeah, I was stabbed. I'm here, yes exactly.

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Speaker 5: I don't think that that's what they think.

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Speaker 4: They think that I'm going to like throw a party

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Speaker 4: or something because my abuser was hurt and I'm and

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Speaker 4: I guess it bothers me just a little bit because

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Speaker 4: I just am like, I don't know, this guy is horrible,

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Speaker 4: but I don't want anyone to die.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, you know what I mean. Like that's

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Speaker 5: not really like my moral compass, I guess you know.

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Speaker 4: What I mean.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes people said in that guest and they say we

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Speaker 1: do want them to die. That is actually really interesting.

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: There's this whole I have the whole stupid like Christian

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Speaker 4: forgiveness thing inside of me still.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean, It's not stupid, but it's

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Speaker 3: it's your moral code and that's how you live your life,

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Speaker 3: and you're allowed to think and nobody is allowed to here.

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Speaker 3: I am telling you, but nobody is allowed to tell

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Speaker 3: you or anybody how you should be feeling about a

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Speaker 3: certain thing. Right, So, like, if the idea of your

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Speaker 3: a Viezer getting stabbed in prison does not bring you joy,

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Speaker 3: that's okay. Like, yeah, if it did bring you joy,

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Speaker 3: that would also be okay. Ye are entitled to feel

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Speaker 3: how you feel about the.

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Speaker 5: Thing, thank you.

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Speaker 4: I do. I agree with that too, because it's also

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Speaker 4: a thing where it's like, I mean, when you got stabbed,

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Speaker 4: I wasn't sad, you know what I mean. It was like, no,

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Speaker 4: my poor buddy. Yeah, I was just kind of like, oh,

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Speaker 4: I hope he lives to be stabbed again. I guess,

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Speaker 4: like I don't know, you know, I.

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Speaker 3: Wonder if people are just like this person was such

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Speaker 3: a heinous monster that they would like him to suffer

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Speaker 3: as much as possible, so they're like happy about it

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Speaker 3: on your behalf, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 5: No, it does make sense. I'm never like offended, you know,

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Speaker 5: when someone sends me a thing, but it is just

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Speaker 5: a thing. We're like, God, God, it's.

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Speaker 1: Urney with the trial. Everything that happened in court.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So the trial is actually like it's like slightly

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Speaker 4: traumatic for me, but not in the way of like, oh,

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Speaker 4: I don't want to like relive it, more in the

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Speaker 4: sense of I have.

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Speaker 5: Like regrets about the trial a little bit.

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Speaker 4: I at the time was working like part time at

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Speaker 4: a pet grooming place in my small town. You know,

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Speaker 4: just a lady that like cuts dog hair. But I

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Speaker 4: was like the groomer's assistant, just giving dogs baths and

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Speaker 4: expressing anal glands and all the fun stuff. And but

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Speaker 4: she was like I don't know if it was just

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Speaker 4: because she had cancer at the time or what the

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Speaker 4: deal was, but she was just like a very crotchety

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Speaker 4: woman for a moment, you know what I mean, where

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Speaker 4: she was just very angry, and she would like come

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Speaker 4: in in the morning. I remember I was going to

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Speaker 4: ask for the time off to read my own victim

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Speaker 4: impact statement in court essentially, and like that morning I

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Speaker 4: like came in.

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Speaker 5: I was like, Hey, what's your name? How are you

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Speaker 5: this morning?

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Speaker 4: And she was like, oh, I'm fine. Tired of watching

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Speaker 4: the news, you know, I turn on the news this morning.

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Speaker 4: Every time I turn on the news, it's just all

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Speaker 4: these little girls getting on the stand and seeing who

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Speaker 4: can cry the hardest for the most money, and I

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00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 4: was like, oh my god, I'm just gonna let some.

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Speaker 5: Court lady read that shit.

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Speaker 4: Like I can't.

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Speaker 5: I can't ask you.

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Speaker 4: I can't be like, hey, I need could I have

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Speaker 4: Tuesday off? I'd like to go cry in the stand

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Speaker 4: for money, like you know. So I didn't. I was

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Speaker 4: I had like a really great lawyer who was a

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Speaker 4: family friend, you know. He just took care of everything

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Speaker 4: for me. And some lady from the court read my

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Speaker 4: victim impac state. But that was kind of the first

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Speaker 4: time I really felt like a comic because she was

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Speaker 4: reading it and I was like, well, and you're butchering it.

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Speaker 4: And I haven't even done comedy yet, but like the

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Speaker 4: victim impact statement, I felt like it was my first

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Speaker 4: ever like roast battle sort of thing, you know of

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Speaker 4: just like like my lawyer was like, hey, so I

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Speaker 4: don't know, we're allowed to stay on your show. But

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Speaker 4: I'm just like but he's just like, hey, you can't

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Speaker 4: like say boner and like next game is honest, you

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Speaker 4: can't say that in the court of law, so you

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Speaker 4: need to like find some new words for this thing,

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Speaker 4: you know. And so I made a court appropriate and

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Speaker 4: sent it in and then some lady read it, but.

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Speaker 1: It was still supposed to be like kind of chat

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Speaker 1: you couldn't ask. Yeah, now you can ask chat ChiPT

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Speaker 1: give me another word for boner.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. Erection is what I went with.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I guess you got last chat for Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: really my that's.

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Speaker 4: My I don't know everyone else feels, but I feel

885
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Speaker 4: like erection is scarier than boner.

886
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: Get in the comments. I want you to let us know.

887
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: Do you prefer to say in court erection or boner?

888
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,439
Speaker 1: And I want to know Press one for erection, press

889
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: two for bon right into c J. We had a

890
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: gay porn star on the show.

891
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 2: CJ was trying to research. I met him at a party,

892
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: so I didn't know his like legal name. I only

893
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 2: knew his Google is when you google him, it's it's

894
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 2: right there.

895
00:43:55,320 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, what he's known for. And so just you know,

896
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: at a party, CJ, this guy's coming on the show.

897
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 2: I didn't warn him. Yeah, and this porn man just trying.

898
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 5: To do his job.

899
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

900
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 4: Anyway, investigating a gay porn star with your pregnant wife

901
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 4: is amazing.

902
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 2: Okay, so that was your trial experience. You watched the trial.

903
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 2: What was sort of the It was a little weird.

904
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 5: It was hard.

905
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 4: I feel like I watched just specifically my part on YouTube.

906
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 4: I had to work the day of it, obviously because

907
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 4: I didn't ask for it off, so I didn't watch

908
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 4: it like on the news or anything. But my lawyer

909
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 4: did send me the like live stream that they had

910
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 4: posted with like my time stamp or whatever, so I

911
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 4: was able to watch it. And then I had a

912
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 4: couple other friends that were there to read theirs in person,

913
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 4: so I watched theirs too.

914
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 5: But yeah, that was.

915
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 4: Essentially my trial experience. And so I guess I felt

916
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 4: a little like, I mean, I'm just regretful that I

917
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 4: didn't ask for it. Often read it myself, and you

918
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 4: know what I mean, like stand you know what I

919
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 4: mean in front of him and say it. But I mean,

920
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 4: I can't do anything now other than I guess put

921
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 4: out a comedy special.

922
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I think what you're doing now is I mean,

923
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 3: not better or worse, but like it's this is how

924
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 3: you're handling it right. And also and I think that

925
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 3: this because it's on YouTube, will have a greater reach.

926
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 4: That's what I'm hoping, you know what I think partially

927
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 4: why we just like me and Sam Talent, decided not

928
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 4: to monetize it.

929
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 5: We just want as many views as possible.

930
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 4: And you know, because I mean, and I know it's

931
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 4: not for everybody, you know what I mean, what I've

932
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 4: made isn't for everybody. It's not going to be for

933
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 4: every survivor. Everyone handles everything differently. But I hope that

934
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 4: it helps people.

935
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 5: I don't know.

936
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 4: My favorite comment I ever got is someone being like, hey,

937
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 4: I had a similar experience with my volleyball coach when

938
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 4: I was thirteen.

939
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 5: This is really great.

940
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 4: I hope I find something that like pulls me out

941
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 4: from underneath it, the way you find something, you know.

942
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 4: And I just like kind of like I don't know

943
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 4: if I was po messing or what, but I just

944
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 4: like broke down and cried because it's sad, you know

945
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 4: what I mean. I really do feel lucky that I

946
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 4: have something, an outlet and you know what I mean,

947
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 4: something to get it out of me, because so many

948
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 4: people just they sit silencely with it.

949
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: And well, I was going to ask you about like

950
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: the healing journey, right, because like so many people go

951
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: through what you went through. Not everyone get there's not

952
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: always a high profile trial. There's not only like you're

953
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: hilarious beyond just that subject matter of your set, right,

954
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: like you are the stand up comic like on all subjects, right, not.

955
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 2: Just yes, yeah, you're assault absolutely.

956
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: So it's sort of like, what has your healing journey been, Like,

957
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: what has your career been like with this, you know,

958
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: with you right, and how have you been sort of

959
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: navigating that.

960
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 5: I feel like it's obviously I'm not healed.

961
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 4: I don't think you know, I'm knowing that makes a

962
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 4: thirty minute com special wile getting loss it is fully okay.

963
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 4: But I guess the probably it's been a lot of therapy.

964
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 4: I started going to therapy for the first time in

965
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 4: my life after the news broke. I also wasn't like,

966
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 4: it's not like I got abused under the guys of

967
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 4: medical treatment at thirteen and then sat. I mean, I

968
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 4: guess I did say with it subconsciously, but I had

969
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 4: friends that were seeing him, right. I was referred, you know,

970
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 4: to his office, and it's kind of a thing where

971
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 4: it's like you I went and told my friend what happened,

972
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 4: and she was like, oh, for sure, like you know,

973
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 4: that's what happens with me. Too, don't worry about it,

974
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 4: like he's a doctor whatever. And then you also have

975
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 4: like sort of this illusion of he's the best because

976
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 4: he was. He was the Olympic team doctor, and you know, yeah,

977
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 4: you don't have question especially back then, you know what

978
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 4: I mean, this kind of I guess Jerry Sandusky had

979
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 4: broke maybe by that point, but no one really you know,

980
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 4: questioned their doctor like that the way that they do now.

981
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 4: And so for me, I basically I feel like I

982
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 4: found out with everybody else. I there saw just an article.

983
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 4: I think my mom even maybe had sent it to me,

984
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 4: and I was like, oh my god, that's what happened

985
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 4: to me. And my alm was like immediately called me

986
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 4: and she's like, what are.

987
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 5: You talking about?

988
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: You know you're folks sitting No, they didn't know.

989
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 5: I didn't say anything about it.

990
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: I never been like you didn't totally understand.

991
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 7: No, I was what it was.

992
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 5: I think I was better off before I found out.

993
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 4: Frankly, I was just like, that's what happened at the doctor,

994
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like it's just the doctor

995
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 4: or whatever.

996
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 5: It was clinical until it was not.

997
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 4: You know. That's how it like felt in my mind.

998
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 4: And so I feel like I struggled, But looking back

999
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 4: on it, it's I mean, I was like, don't drink,

1000
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 4: like drinking and smoking weed and sneaking out and doing

1001
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 4: acid at school and like, so it was obviously affecting me,

1002
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 4: and I just didn't like, didn't really.

1003
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: Realize what it was segment before you got here hindsight

1004
00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: is twenty twenty.

1005
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, everything absolutely, and so I'm like, oh, I was

1006
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 4: totally doing that because of that for sure. But I

1007
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 4: felt like nineteen is kind of where it started. Like

1008
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 4: it hit me like a ton of break, Like finding

1009
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 4: out I got molested is how it felt, you know,

1010
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 4: Like I was like, oh, is that help them? Is that?

1011
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 6: How like that?

1012
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 2: I didn't know, you know, like how old you were

1013
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 2: when the news came out? You were nineteen?

1014
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 5: Yes, it was nineteen.

1015
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 4: I think I was like freshly nineteen when the news

1016
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 4: came out, And yeah, so then I just started dealing

1017
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 4: with it from there, and going through the court process

1018
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 4: was like the one of the first times I had

1019
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 4: gone to therapy at all, because there's like a whole

1020
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 4: damages portion where it's kind of like how many days

1021
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 4: of work did you miss because you were depressed about this?

1022
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 3: Or you know.

1023
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 4: So then it was a weird thing where I kind

1024
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 4: of felt like therapy. It felt more like we were

1025
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 4: putting a price tag on what was wrong with me.

1026
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 4: And it was less therapeutic and way more just like, Okay,

1027
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 4: we got to figure this out, so we can get

1028
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 4: this all in here, and like I can just say, yeah,

1029
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 4: like definitively you are fucked up, okay.

1030
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 2: Right, right, okay.

1031
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 1: So it wasn't really like healing therapeutic. No, it was

1032
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 1: definitely like court mandata, right.

1033
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 2: And it was it sounds very much like a way

1034
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 2: of how do we put a dollar amount?

1035
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 5: And it sucks, but you have to you know, no,

1036
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 5: I know.

1037
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 2: And it's just it's so awful that that's the way

1038
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 2: that it is.

1039
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 5: But that's the way that it is.

1040
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,919
Speaker 3: So that sort of this idea though of like thing

1041
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:30,439
Speaker 3: A happened, so she gets this amount of money, had

1042
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,479
Speaker 3: BC and D happened, she would get this other money

1043
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 3: or had it happened.

1044
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1045
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 4: That is it. It is crazy, and that is kind

1046
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 4: of exactly how it is. And after the fact, I

1047
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 4: don't know about other girls, I don't know about anyone

1048
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 4: else's case, but I just know that I'm not supposed

1049
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 4: to say, because if they're still settling things, they could

1050
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 4: use it as leverage by being like, oh, Lena Bamfield

1051
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 4: was molested X amount of times, okay, and she received

1052
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,959
Speaker 4: X amount of money, but my client was molested toye

1053
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 4: set amount. She's receiving less, you know, And so it's

1054
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 4: this whole it's very weird thing that I think about

1055
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 4: that is reprehensible.

1056
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I just think, you know, Michael and

1057
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 3: I talk about this a lot, just sort of the

1058
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 3: way that we treat women, the way that we don't

1059
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 3: believe girls, the way that it sort of comes down

1060
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 3: to dollars and cents, and you know, people have to say, well,

1061
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 3: you know, the children are the future, like super shit

1062
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 3: like that, but then this is how we're behaving.

1063
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also like how much we see like we

1064
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: were just the Epstein Files comes up a lot in

1065
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: this studio. How much society hates women, women he women,

1066
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: men hate women, how much society hates women. How many

1067
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 1: times about the gay club and people are like, why

1068
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: is there a woman here? And I'm like, I thought

1069
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: there was a space for everybody. Why are you being

1070
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: such a bit.

1071
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 5: About It's crazy it is crazy.

1072
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 2: Why do we have to be so to women?

1073
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 4: And then it reminds you of because around the same

1074
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 4: time that this all happened to me too, movement was

1075
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 4: what twenty sixteen, and I think that's right around was

1076
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 4: I nineteen and twenty sixteen, It's right around the same time.

1077
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 5: But there was this whole video going around about like

1078
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 5: how much is a little girl worthy? You know, and like.

1079
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 4: And I just think and back to like kind of

1080
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 4: what you guys are saying just about like hating women.

1081
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 4: This joke didn't really make it into the special. I

1082
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 4: guess it's not really because it wasn't really a joke.

1083
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 4: It was just more of a statement, you know, because

1084
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,399
Speaker 4: people are kind of like always think I'm like rich

1085
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 4: or whatever, because like they always want to know, like

1086
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 4: how much money I got for getting lost in And

1087
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 4: I'm like, how much do you think that the American

1088
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 4: justice system values women and children? You know what I mean?

1089
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 5: Like that's crazy.

1090
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 2: I think they'd make it into the special?

1091
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 5: Did it? Okay?

1092
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: Well?

1093
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 4: That the second part I think is where I was

1094
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 4: like there was a full there was a lady there

1095
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 4: like arguing against my lawyer to make sure that I

1096
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 4: didn't get too much money, you know, like, and it's

1097
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 4: I mean, that's it has to be someone's job. It's

1098
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 4: not her fault specifically, you know what I mean. Like,

1099
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 4: but it just is crazy that that's where it's at, right.

1100
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 2: Like that she had a choice.

1101
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, this is my launching patch.

1102
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 2: You always have a choice. Yeah, as Meryl says, we can.

1103
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 3: Cut this out if you don't want to answer the question, right.

1104
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 3: I I was talking to CJ. And I was wondering

1105
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 3: about this when I knew that you were coming. Do

1106
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 3: you remember when you met him?

1107
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm sorry. And do you remember what your first impression.

1108
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 5: Of him was? Of him was? I remember it. I

1109
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 5: was thirteen when I first met him, and it was.

1110
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 4: And I remember I can almost like remember it's like

1111
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 4: a weird distant memory where I'm like I can see

1112
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 4: the building in my head and I can like count

1113
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 4: the windows and tell you, like which corner one, like

1114
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 4: two down, all the way over it was, and I

1115
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 4: can remember like seeing like the trim in the room

1116
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 4: and like talking to him. All I remember is he

1117
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 4: made my mom laugh a lot, Like he was just

1118
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 4: very charming and charismatic.

1119
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 5: Which you have to be if you're going to be

1120
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:11,280
Speaker 5: a predator.

1121
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 3: You know, so that people think that you're saying yes, yes,

1122
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 3: And I remember a nice guy.

1123
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 4: There's a nice guy, and I remember him calling me

1124
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 4: a butt head was a big thing that I remember

1125
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,800
Speaker 4: because I was like, oh, my neck is really hurting.

1126
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 4: And I was like expecting, especially at this time when

1127
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 4: I'm running around doing like physical therapy. I thought physical

1128
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 4: therapy was going to be someone like giving me a

1129
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 4: massage and making.

1130
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 5: Me feel better. But it's like actually hard work that

1131
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 5: makes your body hurt.

1132
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 4: And so I was like coming from that and I'm like,

1133
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 4: my neck hurts and he's like, oh, okay, put on

1134
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 4: these paper shorts and change into this gown. Essentially, but

1135
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 4: I remember he told me and my mom that I

1136
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 4: was a butt head. He did not say that he

1137
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 4: was going to enter my body in any way, you

1138
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 4: know what I mean. But essentially it was just like, oh,

1139
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 4: the problems up by your head, but we're going to

1140
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 4: fix it down at your butt. Essentially, I was like, oh,

1141
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 4: maybe I'm a butt head and that's why my you know,

1142
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 4: neck hurts as well, like you know what I mean,

1143
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 4: just still woman being like okay, that sounds good, Like

1144
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, like sounds plausible. I don't know,

1145
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 4: you know, why would she know? But I think the

1146
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 4: first time I met him, I remember him calling me

1147
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 4: a butt heead and being in just being in that

1148
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 4: corner office, and he recommended, Uh, I was wanting to

1149
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 4: go into all star cheerleading and I wanted to go

1150
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 4: to a Michigan Extreme It's just a gym that was

1151
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 4: one of the gyms in Michigan, And he was like,

1152
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 4: why would you go there when you could go here

1153
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 4: to like Capital City cheer And he pulled up their

1154
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 4: website on Facebook, showed me and my mom like they're

1155
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 4: like facility and stuff.

1156
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 5: And I ended up cheerleading at that gym.

1157
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 4: For like four or five years because of that suggestion essentially,

1158
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 4: which I mean it was some of the best four

1159
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 4: or five years of my life, you know, But but yeah,

1160
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 4: that's what I remember from first meeting him is he

1161
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 4: recommended my cheerleading gym and like my lifelong friends that

1162
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 4: I now have, which is super weird.

1163
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 3: Because I you know, I think when we imagine what

1164
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 3: a sexual predator looks like, you put an image in

1165
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 3: your head, right, like it's like this creepy yeah, sort

1166
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 3: of like weird.

1167
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: Like from like the Norton Security app like or you know, and.

1168
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 2: We're all guilty of this.

1169
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 3: Sometimes you you'll see the image of somebody like I

1170
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 3: would have known it in a second. Look at his face,

1171
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 3: look at those beady eyes.

1172
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, like.

1173
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 3: Like he's giving off. But I think, but what we

1174
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 3: have since learned, right, is that sure, it could be

1175
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 3: the creepy person who's weird in the corner, but it

1176
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 3: could also it's your priest, it's your rabbits, you know,

1177
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 3: someone you know who when you find out, oh my god,

1178
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 3: I can't believe that it's so and so it seems

1179
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 3: like such a good guy.

1180
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 4: It's it's it's crazy. And I mean that was the

1181
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 4: general consensus of Larry Nasa before the news like broke,

1182
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 4: you know, was that this was a good guy and

1183
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 4: you could take your kids home. I mean, he was

1184
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:07,720
Speaker 4: involved in other he was involved in other things pretty

1185
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 4: positive allegedly. I'm pretty positive that he was involved in

1186
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 4: like the whole public schools like nursing program, Like not

1187
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 4: nursing program, but sort of like their athletic doctor. Does

1188
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 4: that makes any sense for high school in the area.

1189
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 4: He had an office at Michigan State University Sports athletic

1190
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 4: you know thing. So he just had like a big

1191
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 4: we had his fingers spread, you know what I mean.

1192
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 4: Web was wide right, this is not your job to

1193
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 4: educate me on this.

1194
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 3: But let me ask you, do you know if he

1195
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 3: did this to other children in the other parts of

1196
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 3: his work or was it did he focus solely on

1197
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 3: the gymnast?

1198
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 4: I think that he he was He just was an opportunist, Okay.

1199
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 4: I have said since the beginning, like one of the

1200
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 4: reasons I decided all so to like file because at first,

1201
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 4: you know, it was my friend had seen him so

1202
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 4: much more than me. Her mom would like drop her

1203
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 4: off at his house to like get like her back

1204
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 4: adjusted in his basement and shit, and I just was like, oh,

1205
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 4: I'm not a basement case. My mom took me like

1206
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 4: I legitimately in the beginning was like, oh, what only

1207
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 4: happened to me like three or four times, you know,

1208
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 4: like maybe I don't you know, like deserve to like

1209
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 4: say anything about it, which is obviously bullshit.

1210
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 5: Hindsight is twenty twenty eight, you know.

1211
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 4: But at first I was like a little bit hesitant

1212
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 4: because I just, like, I guess and I have learned

1213
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 4: now this is like a common feeling amongst survivors of

1214
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 4: a lot of things, which like I didn't feel like

1215
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 4: I had it bad enough, you know.

1216
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 2: I think it becomes almost like the oppression Olympics, right,

1217
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 2: like who who is worse off? Well, I'm not like

1218
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 2: this person. Yeah, so I should feel lucky.

1219
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 5: I should feel lucky and I should feel good.

1220
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 4: Yes, exactly exactly, and but also through because like I've

1221
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 4: I've had other things happen and this was the only

1222
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 4: one where you know, like four or five hundred people

1223
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 4: are behind me being like and yes it did, you know,

1224
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 4: like me to us.

1225
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 2: Too whatever, you know, there's like a dud exactly.

1226
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 4: So even though it was super hard, it was the

1227
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 4: easiest sexual assault I've ever had to report, like because

1228
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 4: of that backing, you.

1229
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 2: Know, behind you.

1230
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:24,439
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1231
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 1: I was going to say, is there like a community

1232
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: of support now amongst survivors?

1233
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 2: Like are do you keep it?

1234
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 5: Sure? There is? I'm not a part of it. I

1235
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 5: feel I don't know.

1236
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 4: I again, I just I feel it like some people

1237
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 4: start organizations and nonprofits and like that's fucking great, and

1238
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 4: like it's just like you know what I mean, Like

1239
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 4: I can't like sit in that space of you know

1240
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 4: what I mean, like it just it feels clinical itself,

1241
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 4: being at a nonprofit or whatever.

1242
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 2: It is, Like I'm just like, but you know, so,

1243
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 2: I mean, that doesn't have to be your space.

1244
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 5: The stage is a exactly and so I'm like, I'm

1245
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 5: so I can do this and that's something different and.

1246
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 2: Then hopefully still in the nonprofit space, can't do what

1247
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 2: you do. Yeah.

1248
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1249
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 4: When going into making the special, one of the big

1250
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 4: things for me is that I was like, well, I

1251
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 4: anticipated doing decently well just because Sam Talent, amazing comedian

1252
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 4: and headliner that I go on the road with. He

1253
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 4: was like already going to put it out on his

1254
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 4: YouTube and it's got like thirty five thousand subscribers or something,

1255
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 4: so I knew that people were going to see it

1256
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 4: when I put it out like on his.

1257
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 5: Page.

1258
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 4: So I really like kind of was like, oh, well,

1259
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 4: people might see it and I might get something like

1260
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 4: there might be some momentum from it, you know, I

1261
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 4: might get like bookings and things.

1262
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 5: That I really want to do.

1263
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 4: And I don't want to run around doing this material

1264
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 4: the whole time and it's only like thirty minutes. Anyways,

1265
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 4: I'm not going to write another thirty minutes so that

1266
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 4: I have an hour, Like what if someone wants me to.

1267
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 5: Tour damn it?

1268
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: And I don't know, so the like Larry Nuts or

1269
01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 1: Survivor to work. Yeah, untouchable, true, sure other material about focus.

1270
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 4: On my thirty minutes now is like pretty much exclusively

1271
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 4: like about my family and growing.

1272
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 2: Up and why what happened growing up?

1273
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 5: Nothing? Well I got molested, but I'm just kidding.

1274
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 2: But uh, my dad, that was also such a super.

1275
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 3: But this is you know, I don't know if you listen,

1276
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 3: but like that's the kind of thing where I get

1277
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 3: uncomfortable and I faked me.

1278
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 2: But I put it out there and now I can't

1279
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 2: do it and now I need I need another thing.

1280
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 2: But wait, what about your time?

1281
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 5: My dad grew medical marijuana like legally in our home.

1282
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 4: Love that I was going to say, all, yeah, no, no,

1283
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 4: it was like fully like Lewis, like Michigan I think

1284
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 4: legalized it in two thousand and eight.

1285
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 5: So we were one of the first dates.

1286
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 4: I think we were maybe the first date after California

1287
01:01:56,480 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 4: to legalize marijuana or not recreational medical marijuana. And so

1288
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 4: my like my dad did that, and so I was

1289
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 4: kind of like a stinky kid.

1290
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 5: Like I smelled like weed and that was hard.

1291
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 4: So I feel like I have I've been working on

1292
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 4: jokes about that. He doesn't love it, but it's I mean,

1293
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 4: but it's something.

1294
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 2: It was legal and everything else that's happening in your life,

1295
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 2: it'd happened.

1296
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 4: No exactly and so like, but it was just that

1297
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 4: was a little bit difficult. I just grew up in

1298
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 4: a very small rural town. Me and my brother were

1299
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 4: latchkey kids for a long time. So I have a

1300
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 4: lot of jokes about like how I would be the

1301
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 4: worst in a Stanford prison experiment because like of the

1302
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 4: things I did to my brother.

1303
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 2: I have.

1304
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 4: I had two dogs for a long time and then

1305
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 4: one of them she just kicked it in December. So

1306
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 4: I've been working on a lot of dead dogs stuff.

1307
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:54,439
Speaker 4: It's all pretty dark.

1308
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 5: It will continue to be dark, I think, but I

1309
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 5: don't know so I but it was important to me

1310
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 5: that I had.

1311
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 4: An hour before I recorded the special that wasn't about

1312
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 4: that at all, so that I could prove to myself

1313
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 4: and others.

1314
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 1: What's your relationship advice? You said you've been throwing a

1315
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 1: lot of break tips.

1316
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 5: Oh God, don't do them. No, I keep getting cheated on,

1317
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 5: And would you just steal from me or something more exciting,

1318
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 5: you know.

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Speaker 2: Like, how else please?

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Speaker 1: I had a friend she went out with the doctor

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Speaker 1: and stole his prescription pad.

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Speaker 5: Oh that's kind of fucking slick.

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Speaker 4: I like that.

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Speaker 1: It was back in the day. I don't even think

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Speaker 1: that pymore.

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Speaker 2: It was a while ago.

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Speaker 5: They don't have pads anymore.

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Speaker 2: It's electronic.

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Speaker 1: It's all like they phone it in lame. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: anything else we missed CJ anyone else before? We like

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Speaker 1: button out?

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Speaker 6: How did you guy get into farming medical marijuana? Like like, yeah,

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Speaker 6: I don't know looking to get into it. He just

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Speaker 6: wants to know for research purposes.

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Speaker 4: I don't really know exactly what happened. I know that

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Speaker 4: our next door neighbor I knew that he must have

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Speaker 4: been thinking about it for a long time. And our

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Speaker 4: next we had a the weirdest situation. We had a

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Speaker 4: rental house in the country as our neighbor. So every

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Speaker 4: year we'd get like a new family that.

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Speaker 2: Dad love talking to the next door Oh yeah, my.

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Speaker 5: Dad was like, don't come over here.

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Speaker 1: It's like we're going to live in the middle of nowhere.

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Speaker 1: I want there to be a rental next door. Who

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Speaker 1: I don't talk.

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Speaker 4: It was a family for the longest time, and then

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Speaker 4: they got a divorce and the dad moved to Florida

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Speaker 4: and then kept the house and rented it out.

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Speaker 2: It's still to this day, but the family the seasonal rental.

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Speaker 5: No like a like a just people just live there. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, it's like a regular ship house, you know,

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Speaker 4: like next to my parents ranch style home, you know which,

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Speaker 4: And also I don't know if you guys do you

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Speaker 4: guys know what a ranch style home. It's okay, cool

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Speaker 4: make it's like a trailer with a roof and in

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Speaker 4: a basement. But uh but anyways, they started one of

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Speaker 4: the families that lived there for the longest time. I'm

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Speaker 4: actually the godmother of her child that she had when

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Speaker 4: she was a teenager.

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Speaker 5: Shout out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: But they moved in and we just started smelling it.

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Speaker 5: You just started smelling it. And the story from my

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Speaker 5: mom is.

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Speaker 4: That they were standing like looking out the kitchen window

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Speaker 4: and my dad was just like fucking arms crossed looking

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Speaker 4: at the neighbor's house. And some of my dad's friends

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Speaker 4: had also started to grow eat indoors and my mom

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Speaker 4: was like, just do it, about it, just do it,

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Speaker 4: and so he went out and got his license and

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Speaker 4: then we weren't allowed in the basement anymore.

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Speaker 5: So I thought we got a tanning bed.

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Speaker 1: But all right, so thank you for joining us. Where

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Speaker 1: can people catch you? Where can they watch the special?

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Speaker 1: Let them know at home?

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Speaker 2: Are you on tour or anything?

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Speaker 5: I'm not on tour currently, but if you guys follow me,

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Speaker 5: I can be.

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Speaker 4: Follow me on Instagram so that all of the clubs

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Speaker 4: in Manhattan will let me come Now, if anyone watching

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Speaker 4: is in Brooklyn. I have a free weekly show every

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Speaker 4: Tuesday at eight o'clock at Artichoke Pizza off the Wire

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Speaker 4: or off the Jefferson El stop on y Coff Avenue.

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Speaker 1: And I've been drunk at that art Choke have you.

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Speaker 1: It's a good place to be to start to choke

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Speaker 1: Pizza's I've been drunk. Yeah, I mean, so people aren't.

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Speaker 5: Eat dude, it is pretty it's pretty heavy.

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Speaker 4: Bring a lactate to my show, but I do that

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Speaker 4: every single Tuesday. Me and my friend Abby do live

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Speaker 4: stream on Mondays. We won't be doing it this week.

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Speaker 4: We'll be back next week. Watch my special on YouTube.

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Speaker 4: It's called Untouchable and my Instagram is at Atlanta Bamfield.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you so much, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Welcome back to brief Recess. This

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Speaker 1: is till from the DMS, where we answer honestly just

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Speaker 1: Swedish Latina's messages because.

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Speaker 2: She's right and Tina, do you want to be on?

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Speaker 2: Can we just have you on? He's got the best comments?

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Speaker 3: Well, friends, what do I always say? While Michael is

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Speaker 3: a lawyer, he's not your lawyer, So get your Sweetishanina. Okay,

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Speaker 3: wall I'm gonna read this because she's so funny. Okay,

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Speaker 3: stop right there. I was born with one hand and

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Speaker 3: I always getty percent off of manicures.

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Speaker 2: Like I don't even need to ask Sergio, you messy bitch,

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Speaker 2: what do you really slash?

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Speaker 1: She's been writing in every week with one hand.

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Speaker 2: I love it. Oh my god, I think of that.

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Speaker 2: That's not what I meant. No, that's not what I meant.

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Speaker 2: They're going to be call me a wh hates Boston.

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Speaker 2: That's not what this week anyway, I did. I did

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Speaker 2: because of the Pi eater thing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Taylor Swift wedding guy clash disabled Danny wrote

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Speaker 1: in a wedding venue that is another.

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Speaker 3: One who's always in the comments. Hey, disabled Danny and

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Speaker 3: sweetest carrying the show disabled.

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Speaker 1: A wedding venue that is secretly operated by the mob

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Speaker 1: is the most NYC thing I've ever heard.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I'm convinced that it was. You know what,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to know neither.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I'm looking at I've got enough people on me. Uh, Melissa,

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Speaker 1: please hear the green seasoning recipe.

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Speaker 2: I promise next episode I will. Oh someone wants that

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Speaker 2: I want, I do too. I'll make you some. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you also said you would. Okay, God, some of us

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Speaker 2: are busy. I can't.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you're right, you're right. It's not your responsibility to

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Speaker 1: educate the white man on how to.

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Speaker 2: Wash chicken. To wash my chicken, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I haven't answered any anyone's legal questions

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Speaker 1: lately because we've been talking about a one armed woman

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Speaker 1: getting a manicure for three episodes.

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Speaker 2: So let's see, is there any question? Are there any questions?

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Speaker 2: Just everyone writing about the hell it was like? And

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Speaker 2: people want me to have a cocktail every podcast. I

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Speaker 2: will not.

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Speaker 3: My husband had to pick me up guys okay, and

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Speaker 3: looked very worried for me, looks so concerned. He was like,

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Speaker 3: are you sure.

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Speaker 2: AND's coming to get you. I'm like, yeah, he's coming,

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Speaker 2: Are you sure?

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Speaker 7: Yes, it's left your eyes. And then he's like walking

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01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 7: away slow and he's like, get home safe. Melissa, Okay,

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Speaker 7: Melissa and Michael. So many things I want to say.

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Speaker 7: I don't know who wrote this in we don't have

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Speaker 7: a name, but first time, Michael, screw you for hating

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Speaker 7: Colorado people. I don't hate Colorado people.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, this is Jenny. This is Jenny.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Jenny, about the Denver Airport, you said that no

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Speaker 1: one goes to Denver, but yeah, it's actually one of

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Speaker 1: the busiest airports in the world.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Have you read all the weird conspiracy stuff around the

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Speaker 1: Denver Airport. CJ was telling me about this. Okay, next

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Speaker 1: episode when we start, I'm going to talk about we'll

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Speaker 1: do I want to research all the Denver Airport conspiracy

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Speaker 1: theories because people are saying it's run by the Illuminati,

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Speaker 1: and honestly that it doesn't make sense why the shuttle

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Speaker 1: does that, so it might actually be the Illuminati. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna put on my tinfoil hat for that one,

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to get I'm going to get this

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Speaker 1: is a deep dive that I have to do with

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Speaker 1: three in the morning after a gummy. So I'm going

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Speaker 1: to do the research. I do the hard work so

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Speaker 1: you don't have to, uh, and I'm going to get

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Speaker 1: back to you on the Denver airport.

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Speaker 2: Please do We're rivetted. There is a DM question.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, so Kate Mulligan says, Hi, friends who don't

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Speaker 3: know me, but I love everything about the boof that

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Speaker 3: you thanks, Kate. Do you have any information about Habeast documents?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Like HABEAS? Okay, So she just.

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Speaker 3: Signed up to volunteer in so Cal hoping it's legit

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Speaker 3: because it gives me tangible.

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Speaker 2: To do and to be of service.

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Speaker 1: So I think which is probably asking about is HABEAS

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Speaker 1: corpus claims in federal cores. So basically what's happening right

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Speaker 1: now is because the bond rules that the Trump administration

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Speaker 1: and ICE arem hoosing on immigrants in America are so

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Speaker 1: strict that what's happening is many attorneys are taking the

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Speaker 1: case from Immigration court and filing a separate hearing for

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Speaker 1: a habeas petition saying that this person is being un

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Speaker 1: wrongfully detained for extended periods of time and therefore should

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Speaker 1: be granted a habeas petition because they're like basic human

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Speaker 1: rights are being denied and Immigration court sorry, and so

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Speaker 1: they get that decision from the federal court. That's the

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Speaker 1: circuit of wherever you are. This person's at California, and

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Speaker 1: then you would take that decision back to immigration court

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Speaker 1: and be like, look, the federal circuit is granting relief,

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Speaker 1: you need to grant them bond because the bond rules.

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Speaker 2: Are so strict. Okay, Ken, you explain what Habe's corpus is.

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Speaker 1: So a Habe's petition is just like as a formal

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Speaker 1: way to make people who are jailing, you produce the

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Speaker 1: prisoner and say why they're holding them. Okay, So it's

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Speaker 1: like it's a mechanism that way.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's a form of accountability. But you can volunteer.

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Speaker 1: So this is another cool way that volunteers and people

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Speaker 1: who work at nonprofits can help people who are detained.

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Speaker 1: Because a lot of the times when I go to

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Speaker 1: court for a bond hearing, they're like, we won't even

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Speaker 1: hear it because of these rules, I don't even get

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Speaker 1: a chance to litigate it sometimes. Okay, so then people

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Speaker 1: like Kate who wrote in are working for a nonprofit,

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Speaker 1: then they go to.

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Speaker 2: A different court with it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we're trying to like glue it together sort

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Speaker 1: of is how that's working anyway. Thank you for watching

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Speaker 1: this episode everyone. This is Brief Recess. I'm Michael Foot,

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Speaker 1: I'm Melissa albranch I'll see you in court, not me.

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Speaker 1: This has been an exactly right production recorded at iHeart Studios,

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Speaker 1: Posted by me Michael Foot.

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Speaker 2: And me Melissa Albranch. Our producer is CJ. Ferroni. This

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Speaker 2: episode was edited by Nicholas Galucci.

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Speaker 3: Our associate producer is Christina Chamberlain, and our guest booker

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Speaker 3: is Patria Kottner.

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Speaker 1: Our theme song was composed by Tom Briyvogel with artwork

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Speaker 1: from char Delarue Mnessa Lilac, with photography by Brad Obono.

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Speaker 3: Brief Recess is executive produced by Karen Kilgareff, Georgia hart

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Speaker 3: Stark and Danielle Kramer.

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Speaker 1: You can find me on Instagram at Department of Redundancy

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Speaker 1: Department or on TikTok at Michael Foot and.

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Speaker 2: I'm on both Instagram and TikTok As.

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Speaker 1: Melissa Malbranch got legal questions, reach out at brief Recess

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