1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 1: Vcas outsourced America's manufacturing crisis built by Grid six. I 2 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: love quotes. We're gonna talk about America manufacturing. How do 3 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: we get it back here tonight? But I want to 4 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: talk about a quote I love first and oddly we're 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: going to go overseas for this quote. Isn't that weird 6 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: for an America first special? Yamamoto? You've heard of him. Yamamoto, 7 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: the Japanese admiral who was the author of the Pearl 8 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: Harbor invention, well, the Pearl Harbor invasion invention and the 9 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 1: Pearl Harbor invasion. He's the one who came up with 10 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: this quote. And I think about this quote a lot 11 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: as I look at American Now. You see, when we 12 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: think back on things like Pearl Harbor and World War Two, 13 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: we're proud, aren't we. We're very proud of what our 14 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 1: country was able to do, what our boys in uniform 15 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: were able to do. But do you want to know 16 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: why we won World War Two? On top of all 17 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 1: that bravery? Do you want to know why we won 18 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: World War Two? Well, don't take it from me, take 19 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: it from Yamamoto quote. Anyone who has seen the auto 20 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: factories in Detroit and the oil fields in Texas, knows 21 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: that Japan lacks the national power for a naval race 22 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 1: with America. The truth is this, Oh all that, all 23 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: that blood and guts out there, and the troops, yeah, 24 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: no question about it, they were the tip of the spear. 25 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: But when we look back on things like that, we 26 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: won World War Two in the manufacturing plants, churning out 27 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: tank after tank after tank, bomb after bomb, bullet after bullet, 28 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: rifle after rifle, over and over and over again. While 29 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,639 Speaker 1: other modern nations simply had their equipment shatter, their food 30 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: run out, America's manufacturing giant arm awoken and simply turned 31 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:58,279 Speaker 1: on the juice, and we overpowered everybody on the manufacturing line. 32 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: Fast forward to where we are now. Once the last 33 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: time you took a drive or maybe you actually live 34 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: in it through the rust Belt. See, I was born there. 35 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: And there are so many towns across the United States 36 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: of America that used to be bustling rust belt towns, 37 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: manufacturing towns. One of those towns where everybody is tied 38 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: in some way to the local steel mill. The kids 39 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: get new shoes on their feet every single school year 40 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: because of the steel mill. The wife gets pretty diamond 41 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: earrings at Christmas time because of the steel mill, and 42 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: those things are gone. They're gone, and instead we have 43 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: a drugged out, listless rust belt now because the elites 44 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: in this country sent all of our jobs over to China, 45 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: and I hate it. I want them back. How do 46 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: we get them back? We've given China all this power 47 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: over us. God forbid we have another World war. All 48 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: those tanks and planes won't be coming out of our 49 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: factories because the factories are gone. But that aside, how 50 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: do we get back to having American jobs in this country? 51 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: Can we? Is it even possible? Well, I promise you 52 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: we're going to dig into that tonight. It's going to 53 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: be fun, all right now. I do want to make 54 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: sure that I do this over and over and over 55 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: and over again. We talk on the show about putting 56 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: our money where our morals are. I will tell you, 57 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: for the longest time, I did not do this. I 58 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: didn't care about Made in America. I don't care. It's 59 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: give me whatever's cheapest. You've probably done that too, don't 60 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: feel bad about it, but I want to change that. 61 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: When I talk to you about GRIP six, it's more 62 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: than the quality. I know you already know about the wallets. 63 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: Everyone knows about the wallets. By the way, this is 64 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: RFID blocking meeting. Those thieves can't do that little scanner 65 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: thing where they get your credit card just walking up 66 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: to you. They can do that to you, not to me. 67 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: My cards locked in. You know what you know about 68 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: the wallets. You know about the belts, No more little 69 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: notches in the belt, fully adjustable, whatever's perfect for your waste, 70 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: best belts ever. You know about the socks, wool socks 71 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: that don't itch. They're good in the summer. I live 72 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: in Houston and I wear wool socks in the summer. 73 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: That's how good Grip six socks aren't. But you know what, 74 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: forget about that, forget about that. Made in America. Grip 75 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: six makes it a priority made in America. A lot 76 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: of their stuff is not just made in America, it's 77 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: made in house by Americans. That's why I love grip six. 78 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: Go support an American company and get the coolest wallet ever, 79 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: most comfortable socks ever, best belt. Grip six dot com 80 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: slash Jesse. All Right, grip six dot com slash Jesse, 81 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: We'll be back. You're watching outsourced Americas manufacturing crisis built 82 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: by grip six. You're watching outsourced Americas manufacturing crisis built 83 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: by grip six. I wrote in two thousands fifteen in 84 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: book Most Industrial Revolution, and I mentioned twenty three or 85 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: twenty four technologies which we change the world, our life. 86 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: In ten years from now, we'll be completely different, very 87 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: much affected. And who master or so technologies in some 88 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: way will be the master of the world, Master of 89 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: the world. That's an interesting aspiration. Joining me now, Patrick Newman, 90 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: fellow of the Mesa's Institute. Okay, Patrick, that doesn't sound 91 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: like he has America's best interests at heart. But maybe 92 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: I just heard him wrong. Yeah, that's certainly he's looking 93 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: for more of a globalist perspective where the United States 94 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: is kind of subservient to broader, more worldwide interests. Of course, 95 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: these interests are a smaller that's really running the show 96 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: in various countries. Okay, but he's talking a lot about 97 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: the Fourth Industrial Revolution and things like that. But this 98 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: stuff goes beyond many people. Many people were educated in 99 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: America's education system books. We won't go into the details. 100 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: Why don't you act like I just got here from 101 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: another planet and tell me what the First Industrial Revolution was? Sure, 102 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: So the First Industrial Revolution, initially starting Great Britain, then 103 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: it was in the United States. This is really late 104 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: seventeen hundreds, early eighteen hundreds up until about the eighteen 105 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: thirties a period of massive change. You saw movement away 106 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: from hand processes and craftsmen to interchangeable parts. This is 107 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: the rise of the steam engine, so actually creating machines 108 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: to power things aside from being powered by animals or 109 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: humans or water. You saw the rise of iron manufacturing 110 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: and also mass produced clothes or the textile industries it 111 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: was called basically making clothes through wool and cotton. You 112 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: saw the rise of chemicals being manufactured, particularly sodium carbonate 113 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: in various other type of chemicals used in glass and 114 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: soap and so on. So this is a really big 115 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: change that happened in the early eighteen hundreds that really 116 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: revolutionized human society. Okay, the second one, what was it? Well, 117 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: the second one took place about forty years later. Really 118 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: started in the eighteen fifties and then continued throughout the 119 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: rest of the decade, and you saw a bit more 120 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: technology and more advanced manufacturing. We now see the railroads 121 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: being utilized, right, So the railroads are being developed. This 122 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: is how people are traveling across the continent of the 123 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: United States. The rise of electrical power. You see petroleum though, 124 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: people are using oil or kerosene to first to light lamps. 125 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: Then they're using it to power automobiles that become a 126 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: big thing in the early nineteen hundreds nineteen twenties, thinking 127 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: Henry Ford in general, motors and so on. This is 128 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: really the beginning of sort of the modern economic society, 129 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: with mass produced consumer products as well as a lot 130 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: of the things we take for granted, such as toilets, sewage, electricity, 131 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: as I've mentioned, plumbing and so on. Okay, I'm sure 132 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: you're guess where I'm going next. The third What was 133 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: it before we get to his desired fourth. Yeah, well, 134 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 1: the Third Industrial Revolution. This really picked up after World 135 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: War Two, and this is really the digital age, right, 136 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: So this is the rise of processing machines. So you 137 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: see computer chips, computers. Of course we think of computers 138 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: as being the more modern computer we all know, but 139 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: these really had started off in the even in the 140 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: seventies and eighties. So you saw the rise of again computers, 141 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: video game consoles, digital cameras, so on. So this is 142 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: really when more and more things are being processed and 143 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: sorted through an electronic machine and we are able to 144 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: communicate with each other electronically. Of course, the major culmination 145 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: of this at the beginning of the twentieth century in 146 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: the late night the excuse me at the beginning of 147 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: the twenty first century was of course the Internet. All right, now, 148 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: why is the fourth one bad? Because you're hearing Bond 149 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: movie villains like Klaus Schwab talk about the fourth One 150 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: and you think, man, that's gotta be terrible. Whatever that 151 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: guy once must be bad. Is it bad? Well, there's certainly. 152 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: The fourth industry revolution, like the other industry revolutions, can 153 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: provide a lot of things to make people better off. 154 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: But of course, in the wrong hands or with the 155 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: various government policies, it can make things make the lives 156 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: of many people work. So the big thing we could 157 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: say here with the industrial revolution the fourth Industrial revolution 158 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 1: is the rise of AI artificial intelligence and how artificial 159 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: intelligence will be used. And of course, wrapped up with 160 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: this concept of a fourth industrial revolution is how are 161 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: we going to power things? Right? In the first and 162 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: second and third industry revolutions, we powered machines we powered 163 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 1: society through I guess you could say, you know, with 164 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: various pollutants. The not green technology so tied in with 165 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: this fourth industry revolution is supposed to be this this 166 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: total overhaul of how we power society and through various 167 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: green technologies and so on, and how this will interact 168 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: with artificial intelligence and who's going to be the government's 169 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: going to have a lot more control over people's lives 170 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 1: and being able to monitor what exactly they're doing, as 171 00:10:55,120 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: well as how to shape them to engage in certain activities. Okay, 172 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: how are we going to power things? And I ask 173 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 1: this because it seems like the forces around the world, 174 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 1: governments around the world, are attempting to force a transition 175 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: from our current power sources that work into ones that 176 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: simply don't provide enough power. Yet, you can't shut down 177 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: a coal plant and just put up solar panels. That's 178 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: not how it works. The solar panels don't produce enough juice. 179 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 1: Are we forcing it? Are we going to hurt ourselves 180 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: by trying to force something? I'm of the opinion and 181 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: I think the evidence backs this up that yeah, by 182 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 1: us forcing these types of technologies, are these so called 183 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: green technologies, solar panel even to move to more electric 184 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 1: cars in not using gasoline and coal and other sorts 185 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: of quote unquote pollutants. This is going to hurt us. 186 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 1: Of course, it will help the companies that are producing 187 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: those that are getting various subsidies from the government. It 188 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: of course will help other countries that are trying to 189 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: get a leg up. And really the main result of 190 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: this is that in order to industrialize other parts of 191 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: the world with these new technologies and with these new 192 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: methods of power, we are going to the United States 193 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: is going to have to get hurt. So this is 194 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 1: it's going to create a lot of up people, up people. 195 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: It's going to enrich certain businesses and government officials that 196 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: are involved in this kind of environmental racket, I might say, 197 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: And it's going to could really hurt human living standards. 198 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: Can we bring manufacturing back here, Patrick, who has it 199 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: gone forever? I know we've shipped so much of it overseas. 200 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: We want to control some of our supply chain, obviously, 201 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: especially the critical parts. But is it possible? Where is 202 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: that a pipe dream? And we're just a globalist world 203 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 1: now and that's just the way it is. I think 204 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: it's possible to bring back certain types of manufacturing. We 205 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: have to think about why did certain manufacturing companies leave 206 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,479 Speaker 1: the United States. Some of this is just comparative advantage. 207 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: Certain countries have access to better raw materials, or they 208 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: have cheaper labor, they have more favorable regulations, etc. Other 209 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: reasons is inflicted by the government policies, so we can 210 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: have stronger labor standards, osha that we have stronger environmental standards. 211 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: And thinking of the EPA, for the longest time, we 212 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: had the highest corporate income tax rate in the world, 213 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: at least statuted the statutory rate, and even with various 214 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 1: exemptions and so on, it was still very high. And 215 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: these discouraged various companies from continuing to produce in the 216 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: United States and encouraged them to move to China, to 217 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: move the Southeast Asia, other parts of the world, and 218 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: so on. And in those types of industries, we should 219 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: certainly try to encourage back by getting rid of taxes 220 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: and regulations. Debt discourage entrepreneurs in America from setting up 221 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: businesses in the country. Patrick, I appreciate you man, Yeah, 222 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: thanks for having me on my buddy. Ross Kennedy joins us. 223 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: Next he knows more about supply chains than anybody, So 224 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to ask him some questions about that. Let's 225 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: get a little bit smarter. Are you ready for that? 226 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: Hang on, you're watching Unsourced Americus Manufacturing Crisis Builts by 227 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: GRIP six. You're watching Unsourced Americus Manufacturing Crisis Builts by 228 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: GRIP six ten years ago. How many you knew what 229 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: Tellbill supply chain was? No, I'm serious. You know everybody 230 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: made fun of Joe Biden for that. But I remember 231 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: the beginning of COVID when fifteen days to slow the 232 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: spread was initially proposed. I remember this Fauci and Trump 233 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: up there. Hey it's fifteen days, and I remember sitting 234 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: there screaming at everybody, do you understand our supply chains work? 235 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: And everybody told me to shut up, that I want 236 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: to Grandma to die, and that we could just pick 237 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: up the remote control and just unpause the economy after 238 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: we pause it. I remember that like it was yesterday. 239 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: So maybe Joe Biden accidentally stumbled into something legitimate. Maybe 240 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: people really do not understand our supply chains work. So 241 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: let's bring in the expert. My buddy Ross Kennedy, fortis 242 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: analysis and also a supply chain expert in National security 243 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: expert Ross. Okay, this is going to be the ultimate 244 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: dumb down for a guy like you, But pretend like 245 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: I've been educated in America's education system, I therefore know 246 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: nothing about supply chains in the business world. What's a 247 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: supply chain? Well, I mean, essentially, it's just all the 248 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: different things and partners that come together to make another thing. 249 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: If you're talking about legos, you know, the people that 250 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: would be making the plastic material that the legos are 251 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: formed from, the people that are making the machines that 252 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: actually mold the legos. You know, if a physical thing 253 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: is being made and transported, or in some cases the 254 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: software and design elements of a complex thing, that all 255 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: constitutes a supply chain. So it's just how a thing 256 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: gets made and moves to another place to be eventually consumed, 257 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: whether it's by a business or by consumer. Ross. How 258 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: does this work when we bring in other countries? And 259 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: this is the part of it that it gets so 260 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: convoluted even in my mind, and I understand supply chains 261 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: because Okay, I've got to make my legos, But in 262 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: order to make the plastic or whatever it is to 263 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: make the legos, I need this special ingredient from Nepal, 264 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: but I also need another ingredient from the Philippines. But 265 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: what the government just changed its policies. There's an extra 266 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: tax on what it's from. You see what I mean? 267 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: It gets so confusing when you make it international, does 268 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: it not? Yeah? It does. It's we went international. Globalism 269 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: became the dominant way. It became the default mode for 270 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: the Harvard Nbas of the world in the eighties and 271 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: the nineties, because at the end of the day, it 272 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: was all about getting to the lowest cost per unit. Now, 273 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: whatever that widget is that you're making, you want to 274 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: make it as cheaply as possible, of course, and sell 275 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: it for as much as you possibly can. And so 276 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: what you saw happening was was that manufacturers and suppliers 277 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: began to collocate. They're manufacturing at the cheapest place they 278 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: could purchase and then combine and assemble all of the goods. 279 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: Usually the limiting factor was going to be energy costs, 280 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: labor costs, or regulations. So in the US, as we 281 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: began to implement more expansive regulatory reform related to the 282 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: Clean Water Act, clean air, as our energy got more 283 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: expensive as it became more difficult than expensive to hire 284 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: people to make chemicals, whatever it may be. Places like 285 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: China stepped up to fill the gap because they were 286 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: very cheap for labor. They obviously didn't care much about 287 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: the environment. And then what built up around that was 288 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: a transportation method, a transportation supply chain element, which was 289 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: how do we get the things we're making over there 290 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: to here? And then you begin to see the ocean 291 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: carriers begin to drive their own costs down, and the 292 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: rise of containerization made it so that things could be 293 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: made and transported to and made in one place and 294 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: then the finished product transported here to be consumed. So 295 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, the generally the more 296 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: expensive or difficult it is to make a thing, the 297 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: less likely a given government is going to be, you know, 298 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: supporting the manufacturing of those things. Globalism, when it comes 299 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: to an economy, is it bad? Is it all bad? 300 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: Or is some of it good? What's the rows analysis? 301 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: The more you can control the things that you desperately need, 302 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: you know, the bottom of Massle's hierarchy. If you will food, water, energy, shelter, clothing, 303 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: the better off you are. Globalism gets I guess more 304 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: useful if you're looking at luxury goods, or if you're 305 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: talking about things that are nice haves, not need to have. 306 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: But in the case of the United States, so many 307 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: things that we desperately need that would be a leash 308 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: or handcuffs on us or a way to control us 309 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: if those things were to go missing or were to 310 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: be cut off. We are far too dependent on global 311 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: sources for that. So it's not even that they're made 312 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: in the neighboring country that's friendly. There are a lot 313 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: of these things are being made in distant countries that 314 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 1: rely on very fragile modes of transportation that can get 315 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 1: very expensive and hurry, and they're being made in countries 316 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: like China and Russia that are adversarial to US interests. 317 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: So in that case, globalism extremely bad. And before we 318 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: even tackle the question to what extent is globalism good, 319 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: we should probably at least be able to take care 320 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: of ourselves and then worry about the bigger picture. You 321 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: mentioned China a couple minutes ago when we were talking 322 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: about things being made there and how much cheaper labor is. 323 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: I'm scared to even ask the question, but ross, how 324 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: much does slave labor come into part come into play 325 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 1: when we deal with the things that we buy in 326 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: this country are more than we'd like to admit to ourselves. 327 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: If nothing else it is it's not just in Shinjiongga 328 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: involving the weakers, though of course that's the one that 329 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: that's the issue that's gotten a lot of shine in 330 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: the last few years. But if you look at China's 331 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: dominance in the rare earth metals industry, if you look 332 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: at their dominance in various forms of high end manufacturing, 333 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: even if you look at their dominance in textiles, if 334 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: you take all of these things together, the one common 335 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: link is is that many of the large production centers 336 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: for them come from areas or the supply chains for 337 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: those industries begin and some of the far flowing just 338 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: to provinces of China where they do absolutely utilize force labor. 339 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: But it's not just in those provinces where manufacturing is 340 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: a problem. It's the coal that gets dug out of 341 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: the ground all over the country to power their various factories. 342 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: Endemic with prison labor, force labor, other one. Anytime you 343 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: see poverty alleviation programs where a company or a Chinese 344 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: province says oh we participate poverty alleviation. That's code for 345 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: internal migrant trafficking. And what they're doing is they're taking 346 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 1: very poor people and conscripting them into incredibly low paid 347 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: slave like conditions and moving them from one province to 348 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: another and forcing them to make things, you know, in 349 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: some factory that's a thousand miles from their home and families. 350 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: Are we Is this something we need to be more 351 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: proactive about as a nation ross and all seriousness, I'm 352 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 1: not even picking political parties here, or is this just 353 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: kind of how it is? The second you start taking 354 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: things from other countries, you're going to have slave labor 355 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: as part of your economy. Sure it is. And it's 356 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: not just China. It's in the Congo, you know, very 357 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: famously they utilize artisanal mining as a way, if you will, 358 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: but which just essentially means a you know, a mom 359 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: with a baby on her back and a pickaxe, you know, 360 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: smacking at the rock. These types of things are all 361 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,719 Speaker 1: over the world. It is that way, but it doesn't 362 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: have to be that way. There are a lot of 363 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: ways that we can decouple ourselves from these types of situations, 364 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: and we can get more aggressive about pursuing human rights 365 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: and the bottom line, there doesn't have to be attention 366 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: between them. In the US, we've used the utilized UFLPA, 367 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: the Weak or Force Laber Prevention Act, and recent discussion 368 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: I was having with some high level of Customs and 369 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: Border Protection officials who is one of the regulating agencies 370 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: and enforcing that act. There's seventy eight thousand companies right 371 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: now under active investigation, either Chinese entities or US entities 372 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: that are suspected of being involved and are having shipments 373 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: detained and investigate it under UFLPA. So we're not doing 374 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 1: nothing about it. It's certainly the most aggressive that we've 375 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: ever been in trying to enforce this, but there's a 376 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: huge amount of work to be done and we're not 377 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: seeing the amount of restoring activity yet. Then one might 378 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,479 Speaker 1: suspect they would be if you know, they're importing from 379 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: China and getting you know, getting their shipments detained for 380 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: suspension of the actor, kind of just waiting it out 381 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: or setting up new companies and trying to bypass or 382 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 1: get the goods in through Canada or Mexico or some 383 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: other way. Ross. Thank you, my brother, come back soon. 384 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: Thank you Jesse. You know I talked to you a 385 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: lot about Grip six and what do I do? What 386 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: do I do? I pull out the wallets, because everyone 387 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: loves the wallets. This these cool little card holders and yeah, 388 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: my cards lock in. You've seen you look, you've seen 389 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 1: it a hundred times. I'm not even gonna do it. 390 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: I've talked to you about the belts. I talked to 391 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: you about the socks. I've talked to you about the 392 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: quality of everything. That's not really what appeals the most 393 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: to me about it. I love that it's all American made, 394 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: American made, American maide. And I'll tell you to my shame. 395 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: I never used to place a big priority in that 396 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: when I was younger. In fact, when i'd have an 397 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 1: old timer say, ah, buy American, sometimes i'd roll my eyes. Okay, buddy, 398 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: if I'm gonna go with what's cheaper, and those days 399 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: are past. We need to make American made, the American 400 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: work or American quality, the lack of American slave labor 401 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: a priority. I love. I love that about Grip six. 402 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: I do, to be honest with you, full disclosure, I 403 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: would probably buy their socks if they weren't even that great, 404 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: because they're made in America. Now they happen to be 405 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 1: the best freaking socks ever, the best belt ever. You 406 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: already know about the wallet, but I love that. Praise 407 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: the boys a grip six for that for sure, and 408 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: I love that they have new stuff coming to By 409 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 1: the way, if you want a wallet, and you should, 410 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: or socks or a belt, whatever they make made in America. 411 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 1: That's putting your money where your morals are, go to 412 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: grip six dot com, slash Jesse, or I had to 413 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: give you a special discount out there, gripsix dot com 414 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: slash Jesse. We'll be bad if you're watching them unsourced 415 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: America's manufacturing crisis built by grip six. You're watching them 416 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: America's manufacturing crisis built by grip six. Where in the 417 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: hell's have written that says America can't lead the world 418 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: of manufactured again? Where is that written? I don't know 419 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 1: where it's written. It's not going to be on my watch, 420 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, we're getting You see him getting criticized 421 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: internationally for my focusing too much in America. The hell 422 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: with that? Who's saying that? Where is it written? Where 423 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: is it? You know what? Joining me now? John Carney 424 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: bribe Bart News Finance and Economics editor John I hate 425 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: to interrupt the president when he's having conversations with himself, 426 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 1: but what has Joe Biden actually done to bring manufacturing 427 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: back here? Because I having grown up in the Midwest, 428 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: I know what's happened to the russ Belt. Where did 429 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: our manufacturing go? What's he done to fix it? Well, 430 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 1: first of all, yes, our manufacturing went to China. The 431 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: whole world said they're manufacturing to China. He hasn't done 432 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: anything to fix it, except surprisingly, he has not repealed 433 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: the Trump tarraps. People screamed that these were going to 434 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: destroy the economy, you know, causing plays and do all 435 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: this stuff when Trump put him in place. But we 436 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: now see that that was all Trump derangement syndrome because 437 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: Biden's kept almost all of the tariffs in place, and 438 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 1: you know, the world keeps going on and people don't 439 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: even notice it anymore. Okay, did they help? I'd always 440 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: kept them in place. Did they help? What did they do? 441 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: Should we be doing more of it? Yeah? They helped 442 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: a little bit, but not very much. Did we need 443 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 1: to do a lot more? We're you know, one of 444 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: the things we found out during the pandemic is how 445 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: dependent we are on China. When China lockdown its manufacturing cities, 446 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: there was a lot of things we just couldn't get 447 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: in the United States. Things that even we that are 448 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: mostly made in America often have Chinese components to them, 449 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: and so when China wasn't shipping us those stuff, we 450 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: couldn't do it. We couldn't make it. Toy companies or 451 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: you know, people wanted to buy toys for their kids 452 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: because their kids' schools were locked down, and you couldn't 453 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: get toys because all the toys came from China. We 454 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: probably need a lot stronger of a trade barrier to 455 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: prevent China from you know, running rough shot over us. 456 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: And frankly, the trade deficit with China is rising very rapidly. 457 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: So whatever we've done, it just isn't enough yet. Beyond tariffs, 458 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: which I don't even know how I feel about tariffs, 459 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: it's just that it doesn't ever seem to work out 460 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: the way it looks like it's going to work out. 461 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: But beyond those, whatever we feel about them, how do 462 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: we start making more things here again? And I'm not naive, 463 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: I know it's not the year eighteen hundred. I know 464 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 1: that it's a global economy and that's the way it is, 465 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: but I would like it if if a Midwest rust 466 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: belt town could have a couple of steel mills and 467 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 1: have people earning good wages and have a good life. 468 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: It's pretty insane. We used to be one of the 469 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: greatest furniture makers in the world, the United States. We 470 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: produced lots of furniture. I was recently trying to buy 471 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 1: a kitchen table and trying to find one made domestically 472 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 1: was really difficult. I could not find furniture made in America. 473 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: Why is that? How can it make sense that, you know, 474 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: my kitchen chairs come from China like that? That seems 475 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: a long way. Why aren't they coming from Tennessee or Ohio. 476 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: We used to have a huge furniture manufacturing base here 477 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: and we don't anymore. We gave it up. Can we 478 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: get it back? Because I realized it's the labor thing. 479 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: I'm not naive. I used to work for my family business. 480 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: I know when Dad looked at the profit loss sheet, 481 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: it was always the labor market. That was never a 482 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: good mark, and so companies are always trying to reduce 483 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: that mark, reduce that number Okay, well, we can't start 484 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: having slaves here in America. I don't think anybody would 485 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: prefer that, Lord Willing China does. We don't. How do 486 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: we compete with people who have slave labor? Yeah, basically, 487 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: what we need to do is just have a rule 488 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: that we're not buying stuff from China. I mean, I 489 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: don't think a numerical tariff can be high enough to 490 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: justify buying stuff from countries that have slave labor. So 491 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: I would say, no, you know, nothing from China. That 492 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: should be the rule. It'll take some time to get there, though, 493 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: because over the last twenty three years, we've become incredibly 494 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: dependent on China, and we are going we can rebuild 495 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,959 Speaker 1: American manufacturing, don't We don't even just have to rebuild 496 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: American manufacturing. If we just took half the jobs we 497 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: exported to China to enrich China's peasantry and put those 498 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: in Central America, that would go a long way to 499 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: solving our border crisis. People are One of the reasons 500 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: that our neighbors to the south have remained so poor 501 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: is that many of the jobs that economists twenty five 502 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: years ago assumed would be migrating into Meca and from 503 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: Mexico south from there actually all ended up in China. 504 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: So yes, American manufacturer has been devastated by China. By China, 505 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: but so has Central and South America. The jobs that 506 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: would normally, you know, they would be exporting stuff to 507 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: us ended up all going to China. Okay, that's very 508 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: interesting to think about. So is that one of the 509 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: things because this has always been a frustration for me. 510 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: I realize we're getting sidetracks. We're supposed to be talking 511 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: about made in America, but whatever. One of the things 512 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: that's always frustrated me is the condition of Mexico. It's 513 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: such a disaster and it shouldn't be. I just love it. 514 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: I love the people, I love the vacation there. I 515 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: love the beer, I love the music, I love the food. 516 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: They have great natural resources, they have two oceans. I 517 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: look at Mexico and I think this should be a superpower, 518 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: and instead they suck. Why. I do think China played 519 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: a big role. When we put in place Dafting ninety five, 520 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: this was going to be a huge opportunity for Mexico. Instead, 521 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: a few years later we allowed China into the wto 522 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: China took all the jobs. If I were a Mexican 523 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: I would be very upset at the way China basically 524 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: was a predator on the Mexican economy. Jobs that would 525 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: have been being done in Mexico are now being done 526 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: in China. I think we can reverse that process, though 527 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: I don't think it's too late. You know, just because 528 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: we're buying so much from China now doesn't mean ten 529 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: years from now we have to keep doing that. And 530 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,479 Speaker 1: in fact, I don't think we can keep doing it. 531 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: I think the change is inevitable, and we need some 532 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: politicians who will actually start to put policies at place 533 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: to make this happen. Is there any willpower for that, though, John, 534 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: when it comes to our politicians, because look, we talked 535 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: about Trump, and I'm grateful that we have a more 536 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: America first GOP, more America first focused GOP right now, 537 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: they have a long way to go. But it still 538 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: seems like this has been a boat party thing of 539 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: just hey, American manufacturing doesn't matter, screw it. It seems 540 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: like we're a million miles away from reversing that. But 541 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: are we closer than I'm selling it now? We are 542 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: pretty far away. You're right that the exporting jobs was 543 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: popular with both parties. I think though that American Americans saw. 544 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: But twenty years ago, when Pat Buchanan was warning us 545 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: that this was going to happen, people said, oh, his 546 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: fear mongering. You know, the jobs aren't really all going 547 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: to go to China. You know. Now we could look 548 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,959 Speaker 1: back and we say, okay, we didn't get the bargain 549 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: we were sold. We didn't get advanced manufacturing jobs while 550 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: we sent the you know, the primitive ones off to 551 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: orn Land. In fact, we just wiped out entire communities 552 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: throughout the American Midwest. So we can undo that. We 553 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: don't have to keep the policies in place that allowed 554 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: this to happen. It is within our power to change 555 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: our policies. All right, John, who needs who more? I 556 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: wrestle with this that I should have just called you 557 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: because you're the smart one. Who needs who more? Us 558 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: are China? And I think about this because look, we 559 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: are competitors, but we somehow need each other. We're competitors, 560 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: but we're married. There's scary things going on right now 561 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: in the world. So let's say God forbid, World War 562 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: three kicks off here. Who is going to be in 563 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: more trouble. I think so China needs our market. They 564 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: do not have enough of a domestic demand economy to 565 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: support all the jobs that they have in China, so 566 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 1: they need us. But I think they could get by 567 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: for a few years without us. We can't get by 568 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: without China. We have become dangerously dependent on China. If 569 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: China decided, you know what, we don't like the way 570 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: you're treating Russia, We're going to put economic sanctions on 571 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: you and not sell you anything for two years, we 572 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: would be in a lot of trouble. We are too 573 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: dependent on that. We need to wean ourselves from that dependency. 574 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: And frankly, I don't really you know, we had Trump 575 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: and he talked to a good game, but even his 576 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: policies didn't go far enough, and so we're going to 577 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 1: need something even stronger than that. All right, John Carney, 578 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: thanks brother, come back soon. The GRIP six boys, I 579 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: want to talk about American manufacturing or the boys from 580 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:42,280 Speaker 1: GRIP six join us. That's you're watching unsourced Americas manufacturing 581 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:50,280 Speaker 1: crisis builts by GRIP six. You're washing unsourced Americas manufacturing 582 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: crisis builts by GRIP six. I've been obsessed with belts 583 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: for a long time. I wear a belt every day, 584 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: and there was like three things that always show me 585 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: crazy about belts. You have all these holes, but you 586 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: only use one of them. This big flat hanging off 587 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 1: the front, and it usually sticks out under your shirt. 588 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: And so I'd search high and low for a belt 589 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: that would not do any of those things, and I 590 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: couldn't find it. There's enough things in life that are 591 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: super complicated, and I like to simplify things down. As 592 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: an engineer, I thought it'd be fun to try to 593 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: design something myself that would actually be able to do that. 594 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 1: So the belt's really cool because it solves those exact 595 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,399 Speaker 1: three problems. There's no holes, there's no flap, and it's 596 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 1: super flat, like low profile. When you put it on, 597 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: it doesn't stick out nder your shirt. It ends up 598 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,399 Speaker 1: being super comfortable, and it's just extremely simple. We make 599 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: our products right here in the USA. The webbing's a 600 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: military webbing that we have custom made for us. It's 601 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: rated at like three thousand pounds. It's got just a 602 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: ton of strength. The buckle that goes with it is 603 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: an aerospace grade aluminum and we actually make them ourselves 604 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: in our shop. This strap and the buckle will come 605 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: apart super easy, and you can mix and match anything 606 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: that you want, so you can make like forty five combinations. 607 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,439 Speaker 1: We have a ton of confidence in our product because 608 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: we wear it every day and we know that people 609 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: that buy it absolutely love it, and so we're more 610 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: than happy to say just give it a shot, because 611 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: if you don't love it, we'll totally give you a refund, 612 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 1: no problem. You know how I knew I was getting 613 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: old when I started to prioritize things like my socks 614 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 1: in my belt and I started complaining about my wallet. 615 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 1: And that's what I knew. And now when you improve 616 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: on those things, you find, actually the quality of your 617 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: life is better. My Grip six belt doesn't pinch me 618 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: and the little fat thing I have right here on 619 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: the hip joining me now. BJ Minson, the founder of 620 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: Grip six, and David Burton, General counsel Director of Marketing 621 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 1: at Grip six. Okay, Bj, the belt itself, let's just 622 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 1: set aside everything else. Why did it take so long 623 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: to find a belt for me to find a belt 624 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,839 Speaker 1: that didn't have the holes. It's the whole thing that's 625 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 1: the problem for me, because they all looked gnarled like that, 626 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 1: every single one of them does, and it drives me 627 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: absolutely up the wall. This is the only belt I've 628 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: ever seen like this. Yeah, you know, I'm not sure 629 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: why I took a long time for that belt to 630 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 1: come out. I hated the belt with holes for a 631 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: long time, and so I was actually I used to 632 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: wear one of David's military belts and it was much better, 633 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: but it still was really bulky. So it was kind 634 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: of like, how could you make a belt that's like 635 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: the military belt and doesn't have the holes but isn't 636 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: so bulky, And that's kind of That's kind of how 637 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: I came up with the belt David made in America. 638 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,240 Speaker 1: I've lived in the past just doing stupid T shirt 639 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: ideas or various other dumb things I do on this show. 640 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: I've I've looked at things like this, and it's so 641 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: hard to find good stuff that is made in America, 642 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: or if you find it, it's super expensive. Yet that's 643 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 1: what we've been talking about a lot tonight. Yet you 644 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: were able to do it. You guys were a want 645 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: to do that, put together outstanding products that don't break 646 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: the bank, made in America. I don't want you to 647 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 1: give away all the trade secrets. But how'd you do it? 648 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 1: You know? I think when we started GRIP six, we 649 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: had this idea that we needed. We didn't want to 650 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 1: just be a business that was successful. We wanted to 651 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 1: be a business that helped change a little bit, you know, 652 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: for the better in America. And so kind of like 653 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 1: our underlying mission is to affect manufacturing. And the only 654 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 1: way we can do that is to make products that 655 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: are that we can do in scale. We can do 656 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,760 Speaker 1: mass quantities, and we can do them really high quality, 657 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: they're innovative, and that they don't break the bank. And 658 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: so as we go through things or we price things out, 659 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: we're really pricing as low as we can and looking 660 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:55,399 Speaker 1: at getting as much manufacturing experiences as we can as well. 661 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 1: And so I guess the answer is if you have 662 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: that as an idea going forward, you push to that, 663 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: you put your energy into it, you can be successful 664 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: at it. Manufacturing in America people complain rightfully so about 665 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 1: it leaving our shores, and it has left our shores 666 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: sadly for decades. Since you are both knee deep in this, David, 667 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,879 Speaker 1: I guess I'll stick with you for this one. Can 668 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 1: we bring it back. You've been successful, you built this 669 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: great company. Everyone's thrilled with everything. I get emails every 670 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: single day, Jesse the socks, Jesse, my wallet. But is 671 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,799 Speaker 1: this something on a larger scale that we as Americans 672 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: can do? Can we bring it back? Look, Jesse, it's 673 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: not just that we can do it. We have to 674 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 1: do it right. I mean, manufacturing is the backbone of 675 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: any economy, and especially for America. You know, you're looking 676 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,319 Speaker 1: at America fifty years ago or so, and we were 677 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: we were the kings of manufacturing in the whole world. 678 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: So a lot of our economic success was built on 679 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 1: the backbone of manufacturing. And the loss of manufacturing to 680 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: us has been devastating. And maybe we don't feel it 681 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: right now, but you know we will fill it in 682 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 1: the future when we've lost the expertise and you know, 683 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,439 Speaker 1: the knowledge, skills and abilities that we that we really 684 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: have to have to be a strong economy. So as 685 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 1: as manufacturing overseas, we lose control of it, and that 686 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 1: means to some degree we lose control of the economy. 687 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,800 Speaker 1: And so we believe in a free market and and 688 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 1: and global trade, but an understanding of the importance of 689 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:37,399 Speaker 1: things being made by us right is critical for Americans 690 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: to regain and and the ability to do it again 691 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 1: is is to have the pride in it ourselves and 692 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 1: not making just not just making products, but products that 693 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 1: last a really long time, that are you know, like 694 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 1: I said before, innovative. And you know, we give everything 695 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,879 Speaker 1: for example of GRIP six a lifetime warrantee to make 696 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: sure that we can test ourselves and making sure that 697 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,320 Speaker 1: we're following in line with our own values and principles. 698 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 1: But the key to the future of American manufacturing is, 699 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: in our opinion, we've we spent a lot of time 700 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 1: thinking and discussing and moving in this direction is modernizing 701 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: manufacturing and being nimble, being you know, using automation and 702 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: robotics and technology to be competitive. We can never be 703 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 1: competitive with China or India for labor prices, for example, 704 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: but we can be more than competitive with technology and innovation, 705 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 1: which is what our strength is currently in any case, 706 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 1: So I think that manufacturing in America we have to 707 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 1: rethink what it looks like. It looks nimble, it doesn't 708 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 1: look like the old boy system and manufacturing one hundred 709 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: years ago. And as we accept that, and it looks 710 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 1: really cool. You know, modern American manufacturing is it looks 711 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 1: great and I can say, you know, working at Grips six, 712 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 1: it's it's something that is super fulfilling. So as we 713 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: as we you know, rebuild the American kind of manufacturing 714 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 1: in several industries. Not only is it really essential for economy, 715 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 1: but it's also rather fulfilling for the people that work 716 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: in it. You know, we get a lot of technical jobs, 717 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 1: technical labor, engineering and machining and problem solving skills that 718 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: will help us for many years to come. BJ. I'm 719 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 1: actually glad the founder himself is here because I have 720 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 1: to ask you a question. I'm there's currently a war 721 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 1: going on within the Kelly household. You see, everyone knows 722 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,319 Speaker 1: that this is my Grip six wallet, that I've held 723 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,360 Speaker 1: it up in front of the camera eight thousand times. 724 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,879 Speaker 1: This is my Grip six wallet. I wanted to try 725 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 1: one without the loop. I now have this wallet and 726 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 1: where my cards, as you can see, currently are by 727 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: the way, cards not falling out until I want them to. 728 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 1: My youngest son is outraged that I have dropped the 729 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 1: American flag and gone with one that did not have 730 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: the American flag. I explained, I wanted one without a loop. 731 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 1: I'll give it up to the founder. Your call, So 732 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: what's your question as far as loop or no loop, 733 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 1: loop or no loop? Which wallet do I go? American 734 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 1: flag with the loop or straight black? Um? I love 735 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 1: the American flag obviously, and I'm a loop guy myself. 736 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,320 Speaker 1: The loop is super nice to be able to grab something, 737 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,319 Speaker 1: pull it out, play with it a little bit, use 738 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,360 Speaker 1: your cards, and you don't have risk dropping it because 739 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 1: you have such a firm hold on it. So I'm 740 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 1: a loop guy myself. I would I would go at 741 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:29,360 Speaker 1: the loop. J David Grip six. Okay, each of you 742 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 1: thirty seconds. David will start with you, Grip six. What's 743 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 1: the next product you want? Don't tell me you're going 744 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 1: to stop at belts, socks, and wallets because you already 745 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: make the three best things in the country. What's the 746 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 1: next one? Give it to me? Uh. I think we're 747 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 1: gonna jump out and go into something that's not an accessory, 748 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 1: so pick a ball paddles. We're also working on disc 749 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 1: golf discs, and the call that we keep getting is 750 00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 1: um for for wolf hoodies and woolf sweaters. So that's 751 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 1: my desires to go in in that route. We need 752 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 1: to build out more machines and get our you know, 753 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:11,839 Speaker 1: technical expertise and manufacturing expertise into that, and I could 754 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 1: say that within a year happening b J. Yeah, I 755 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 1: mean we've talked about it internally. I would just echo it. 756 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 1: David said, yeah, I think we've got the pickleball paddles, 757 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 1: which are actually very close to and will probably happen 758 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 1: by this summer. And then we kind of want to 759 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 1: get out of like the accessory thing and kind of 760 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 1: into some bigger markets, and obviously that requires bigger manufacturing, 761 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 1: and that's something that we're always happy to do. So yeah, 762 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 1: we're always kind of looking for the next thing. You 763 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 1: guys have no idea how angry my wife is going 764 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: to be that you're coming up with hoodies. Now, hoodies 765 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 1: are my favorite thing in the world. I think I 766 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 1: have like twenty of them, and now I'm gonna have 767 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 1: grip six footies on top of it and pretty prolific 768 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 1: frisbee golfer. We called it falls back in the day. 769 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 1: B J. David. Thank you both so much. Man, I'd 770 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 1: love you guys, you know I do. Thanks for having us. 771 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 1: Thanks Jesse of course. Group six Boys made in America. 772 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 1: Talk about putting your money where your morals are there. 773 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 1: It is right there, all right. Now, let me talk 774 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:23,240 Speaker 1: about this for just a brief moment. Made in America matters. 775 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 1: We try to make sure we will bring you products 776 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 1: as often as we can that are made in America. Now, 777 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:34,840 Speaker 1: what responsibility to do you and I have. Let's patronize 778 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:39,320 Speaker 1: those businesses right wherever you can find it. Patronize those businesses. 779 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 1: Next time we need some socks, a bell wallet, you 780 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 1: know where to go.