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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show Podcast Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Everybody is here. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show gets

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Speaker 2: started right now. Much discussed. We have some updates on

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Speaker 2: the Israel Hamas war. The IDF has entered the largest

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Speaker 2: hospital in Gaza, the Al Shifa Hospital, because it has

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Speaker 2: terrorists and terror tunnel networks underneath it. That will bring

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Speaker 2: you updates on that as we can. Plus a massive

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Speaker 2: march yesterday almost three hundred thousand people was the estimate

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Speaker 2: that I see that I've seen, and that happened in

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Speaker 2: support of the Jewish people in condemnation of anti Semitism.

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Speaker 2: We shall discuss that heavy FBI is down on Capitol

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Speaker 2: Hill talking about threats of the homeland with DHS's majorcus

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Speaker 2: as well, so you get the FBI boss, the DHS boss.

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Speaker 2: They're getting grilled. Will bring you the most important moments

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Speaker 2: from those exchanges. We talked to you yesterday about the

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Speaker 2: just absolutely horrific beating of a seventeen year old to

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Speaker 2: death in Las Vegas. There have been eight arrests now

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Speaker 2: for murder, so we have an update for you on

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Speaker 2: that one. Clann I will talk to you more about

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Speaker 2: that later on in the program. Plus, on the legal front,

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Speaker 2: some updates on the Georgia case against Trump, as well

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Speaker 2: as the Michigan effort, or the effort in the state

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Speaker 2: of Michigan to take Trump off the ballot. We've got

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Speaker 2: new stories on those fronts as well. But what's really

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Speaker 2: making a lot of waves right now, taking us into

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Speaker 2: the GOP primary here for a moment, Nikki Haley, whom

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Speaker 2: we have invited on the show and are hoping to

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Speaker 2: get on in the days ahead, hopefully not weeks, but

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Speaker 2: days ahead. We have asked our team for to come on.

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Speaker 2: We've got a lot of things we want to ask her.

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Speaker 2: Might even keep her for two segments. I mean, there's

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Speaker 2: a bunch of areas to hit with her. But Clay,

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Speaker 2: she made more news than I think she intended when

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Speaker 2: she said that every person on social media should be

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Speaker 2: verified by name. I want everyone to hear this sound

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Speaker 2: by play sixteen.

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Speaker 3: When I get into office.

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Speaker 4: The first thing we have to do social media accounts,

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Speaker 4: social media companies. They have to show America their algorithms,

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Speaker 4: let us see why they're pushing what they're pushing. The

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Speaker 4: second thing is every person on social media.

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Speaker 2: Should be verified by their name.

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Speaker 4: That's first of all, it's a national security threat when

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Speaker 4: you do that, all of a sudden, people have to

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Speaker 4: stand by what they say, and it gets rid of

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Speaker 4: the Russian bots, the Iranian bots, and the Chinese bots,

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Speaker 4: and then you're going to get some civility when people

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Speaker 4: know their name is next to what they say and

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Speaker 4: they know their pastor and their family members going to

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Speaker 4: see it. It's going to help our kids and it's going.

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Speaker 2: To help our country, all right, Clay, there are two

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Speaker 2: sides to that coin at a minimum, and there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of backlash. We'll get to her walk back already.

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Speaker 2: But what's your first reaction to this? Because this has

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Speaker 2: been dominating the online discussion for about the last I

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Speaker 2: don't know, eighteen hours or so.

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Speaker 5: So first, the online algorithms and being able to understand

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Speaker 5: what's being pushed, I think makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 5: On the social media front, walk through me with this

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Speaker 5: if you will. My understanding is you basically have to

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Speaker 5: be a real person to get a Facebook account, right,

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Speaker 5: that is the intent. I understand that people set up

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Speaker 5: Facebook fake accounts.

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Speaker 2: On Facebook. I think it's.

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Speaker 5: Also true on Instagram that you and again people out

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Speaker 5: I think Instagram accounts have to be connected, at least

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Speaker 5: in theory, to real people. In other words, I understand

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Speaker 5: people game the system and they're faked and everything else,

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Speaker 5: but Twitter and TikTok do not in theory require real identities,

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Speaker 5: right Is that your understanding? Buck For people out there

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Speaker 5: who may not be active on social media, those are

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Speaker 5: and Instagram to others, in Twitter and in uh and

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, yes, because on Twitter when Patriots seventeen seventy

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Speaker 2: I don't know who that is. You know, it's not

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Speaker 2: can say, excuse me, sir. Yeah. But but the the

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Speaker 2: there are two things that I think got everybody a

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Speaker 2: deal with this part of this verse. Yeah, Nicki Haley

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Speaker 2: is increasingly viewed in this primary as a throwback to

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Speaker 2: that she wants major military intervention abroad, endless funding of

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Speaker 2: That so she's very hawkish on foreign policy, and she

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Speaker 2: also is haukished on just a national security state in general.

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Speaker 2: And people on the right are concerned about this because

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Speaker 2: they see what will one what happened in the long

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Speaker 2: term in I Rock at Afghanistan. They also see the

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Speaker 2: expansion of the surveillance state that was supposed to be

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Speaker 2: used against al Qaeda Clay. As we've seen in recent years,

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Speaker 2: that same surveillance state is used against you know, J

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Speaker 2: six protesters, or it's used against parents at school board meetings.

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Speaker 2: There's been an effort to turn the government against domestic extremists,

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Speaker 2: and by that they mean people with right wing views

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Speaker 2: that they don't like. But all the different people that

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Speaker 2: ways of monitoring and collecting and analyzing data that is

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Speaker 2: used now for a lot more than just trying to

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Speaker 2: find bidden laden a co conspirators.

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Speaker 5: Well as a guy who's now got his second irs. Notice,

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Speaker 5: I am very sympathetic to anybody out there who believes

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Speaker 5: that your political.

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Speaker 2: Beliefs will lead to you being targeted in some way.

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Speaker 5: I think personally that the algorithms should favor real people,

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Speaker 5: that is, people with verified identities and real names. I

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Speaker 5: think that's probably the best way to handle this. I

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Speaker 5: understand that people decide that they want to have anonymous accounts.

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Speaker 5: A lot of the problem is, and you know this, buck, you,

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Speaker 5: I think have to be somewhat psychotic to have like

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Speaker 5: army of different accounts that you have created. There are

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Speaker 5: a lot of people who do that, and oftentimes it's

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Speaker 5: used and certainly Rush they found this out better than anybody.

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Speaker 5: They would use it to go after advertisers and try

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Speaker 5: to create this idea of oh, there's tens of thousands

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Speaker 5: they got adept at being able to create this illusion

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Speaker 5: just you know, somebody spinning off a bunch of different

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Speaker 5: Nicki Haley is trying to address. I think the idea

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Speaker 5: of doing away with anonymous accounts in the process in

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Speaker 5: which she laid out is not one that is effective

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Speaker 5: or likely to lead to a truer or more honest

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Speaker 5: marketplace of ideas, which is ultimately, I think what we

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Speaker 2: Ron de Santis pointed out on Twitter Governor Florida that

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Speaker 2: the Federalist papers were written on I know Poublius. There

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Speaker 2: wasn't some guy Publius who was hanging out at the

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Speaker 2: that was particularly useful for Madison, Hamilton and Jay and

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Speaker 2: to be fair, back in the day, I hope we

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Speaker 5: You could be thrown in prison for what you wrote.

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Speaker 5: So here forget this.

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Speaker 2: Even after the adoption of the First Amendment, even after

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Speaker 5: Like that, right before Thomas Jefferson I think got got elected.

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Speaker 2: I think when that was put in place, they wanted people.

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Speaker 2: I mean, some of the founders, including Jefferson, were like, whoa,

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Speaker 2: you can't say that about our war aims or situation.

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Speaker 2: the twentieth century, the fire in a crowded theater line

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Speaker 2: throwing a socialist who was against intervention into the First

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Speaker 2: World War. He was handing out pamphlets and the Supreme

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Speaker 2: Court said, well, that's basically like shouting fire in a

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Speaker 2: crowded theater. It was the Supreme Court's version of your

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Speaker 2: words hurt me. So there's been some big l's, some

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Speaker 2: big losses for free speech over the course of this

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Speaker 2: country's history, even with the First Amendment in place that's

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Speaker 2: supposed to guarantee it. So I think people get a

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Speaker 2: little concerned Clay about a person who is rightly or wrong,

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Speaker 2: And we will ask her about this when she comes on,

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Speaker 2: and I'm sure she will soon viewed as the military

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Speaker 2: if you are a Nicky Haley voter who is all

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Speaker 2: want to hear from people that are saying Nicky's my

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Speaker 2: We will say thank you and end that call. We

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Speaker 2: want Nicky Haley all in. Nobody else can get it done.

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Speaker 2: I want to know how many or if any, are

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would love to hear from the two buck.

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Speaker 5: This is where doing starting off my career in college

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Speaker 5: football is perfect for what's going on right now. If

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Speaker 5: you there are such zelots and diehards in college football

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Speaker 5: Michigan is the greatest school that's ever existed in the

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Speaker 5: history of mankind, and their athletic programs are far superior

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Speaker 5: to everyone else who has ever existed in the history

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Speaker 5: of college sports. Anything short of that, Michigan people, and

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Speaker 5: I'm not trying to just pick on Michigan, but Michigan.

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Speaker 2: People will be like, you hate my team, how dare you?

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Speaker 5: Same thing as true at Alabama at Tennessee, at Texas

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Speaker 5: at usc, all these different schools, big athletic programs. We're

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Speaker 5: in that place right now, Buck, where people are so

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Speaker 5: out from the first votes being cast in the Iowa Caucus,

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Speaker 5: that if you or I or anyone out there that

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Speaker 5: is unaffiliated with any particular candidate says anything other than

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Speaker 5: their favored candidate is the greatest human that has ever

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Speaker 5: existed in the history of mankind, You're a hater. I've

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Speaker 5: done I've seen this for twenty some odd years. It's

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Speaker 5: actually less toxic I think in politics than it is

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Speaker 5: why college football coaches get held to higher job standards

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Speaker 5: than politicians, honestly, but that's where we are right now,

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Speaker 5: where everybody is looking for a fence, and if you

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Speaker 5: say anything other than their chosen candidate is the only

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Speaker 5: person who can win and everybody else is an imbecile,

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Speaker 2: It's really kind of entertaining. The timeline is also now

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Speaker 2: such that people take this stuff more personally because they

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Speaker 2: know that the big game is coming up. I think

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Speaker 2: over this summer there was a little more okay, you

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Speaker 4: Social media companies to verify everybody so that we can get.

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Speaker 6: All of those You never saying that people can't tweet anoun.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's the.

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Speaker 4: Same reason why I think doxing, like you know, you

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Speaker 3: But no, like, if you can have anonymous I don't

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Speaker 5: Welcome Hour number two Clay Ravis Buck Sexton Show. We

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Speaker 5: are joined now by the Governor of Arkansas, Sarah Huckabee Sanders,

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Speaker 5: who recently traveled to South Florida to endorse President Trump

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Speaker 5: as the governor of the great state of arkansaw And Sarah,

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Speaker 5: Governor Sanders, I don't know what we should call you here,

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Speaker 5: I'll call you governor. I guess that's fun, pretty cool.

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Speaker 5: What makes you think Trump is the best choice to

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Speaker 7: Well, happy to answer that question. And first you can

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Speaker 7: call me Sarah, you can call me governor. I've been

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Speaker 7: I'm happy to answer.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think it's really simple and it's really clear.

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Speaker 7: I mean, this is shaping up to be a matchup

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Speaker 2: You know how this goes. Sarah, it's buck. Thanks for

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Speaker 2: That's as far as it would have to go for that.

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Speaker 7: Look, I've done my time in Washington. I absolutely love

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Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you about what you're doing in

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Speaker 2: this buying up of US farmland in states like Arkansas. Well,

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Speaker 7: Well, I think people should be very concerned about the

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Speaker 7: It's a place we know that the Chinese are trying

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Speaker 5: Good for you, Sarah Huckeby Sanders, governor of Arkansas, with us.

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Speaker 7: You know, I think that one of the things that

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Speaker 7: And I always love that Democrats try to own that

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Speaker 7: And it was Donald Trump who did that. And another

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Speaker 2: You know, one thing we continue to see. We're speaking

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Speaker 2: You have a red state there that you're running, and

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Speaker 2: we just saw in California that they were able to

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Speaker 2: up for a meeting with Biden. But they had to

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Speaker 2: There's been a lot of movement. We often talk about

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Speaker 2: Florida Texas Tennessee as the states that get the most

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Speaker 7: we're seeing a massive influx of people coming in, largely

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Speaker 7: coming from either the West Coast, which you're seeing a

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Speaker 7: lot of migration from. We've had over thirty a little

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Speaker 7: over thirty thousand people move into our state just this

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Speaker 7: year alone, a large portion of that from the state

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Speaker 7: of California. People are sick and tired of an out

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Speaker 7: of control, top heavy government that tries to dictate every

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Speaker 7: single part of their life. I think one of the

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Speaker 7: saddest things about what's happened this week where they cleaned

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Speaker 7: up the streets in San Francisco, is they've shown that

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Speaker 7: they're capable of doing it. They're just choosing not to

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Speaker 7: every other day outside of this week. And in a

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Speaker 7: state like Arkansas, not only are we making our safe,

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Speaker 7: our streets safer cleaner, we're making our schools better. And

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Speaker 7: we're doing that not for the Chinese, but for Americans,

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Speaker 7: for our Kansas because we want to see our people

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Speaker 7: succeed and we want to see them live in communities

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Speaker 7: that are thriving and doing well. And I think that

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Speaker 7: other people are seeing that too, and that's why they're

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Speaker 7: moving out of places like California and coming to red

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Speaker 7: states like Arkansas and some of those other neighbors of ours.

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Speaker 5: You are the White House Press Secretary. Carine Jean Pierre

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Speaker 5: is now the White House Press Secretary. How would you

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Speaker 5: assess her performance?

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Speaker 7: Well, I'm always careful because I think it's one of

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Speaker 7: the hardest jobs there is. But the difference is I

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Speaker 7: actually had a good story to tell. We had good

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Speaker 7: things happening the president. Under President Trump, our country was strong,

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Speaker 7: our economy was strong, we were safer, we were more secure,

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Speaker 7: we were prosperous, So I had good things to talk about.

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Speaker 7: I frankly feel really sorry for her. One I don't

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Speaker 7: think she is spectacular at her job, but also she

468
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Speaker 7: doesn't have anything good to go out there and talk

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Speaker 7: about and sell, and that makes that difficult job even

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Speaker 7: harder to do and do well, and so she's got

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Speaker 7: an uphill battle. I certainly don't envy her. I'm glad

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Speaker 7: that I got to take on that role for the

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Speaker 7: president that I.

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Speaker 2: Did, And what do you think should be the president?

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it should be the Republican nominees focus in

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Speaker 2: this presidential race. And if you were to messaging was

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Speaker 2: what you did in the White House, right Obviously you

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Speaker 2: still do it now as governor of Arkansas. But what

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Speaker 2: do you think should be the primary driver, at least

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Speaker 2: with the pieces on the chessboard as they are right now.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I think that you know the contrast

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Speaker 7: between the two candidates, between Biden and Trump. Again, you've

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Speaker 7: got a record of success versus a record of failure,

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Speaker 7: somebody who governed from a position of strength versus a

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Speaker 7: position of weakness that we see from President Biden every

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Speaker 7: single day. I think focusing on the economy, the safety

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Speaker 7: and security of our country, those are things that are

488
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Speaker 7: always top of mind in every election, and the contrast

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Speaker 7: on those particular issues are really strong for Republicans. Under

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Speaker 7: Republican leadership, we had a booming economy, we had secure border,

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Speaker 7: we didn't have a war popping up in a different

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Speaker 7: part of the globe every single day like we're seeing

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Speaker 7: in this administration. And so I think those are the

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Speaker 7: places that we can lean into. But I think when

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Speaker 7: you really get to the core of it and the

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Speaker 7: difference of Republicans versus Democrats, to me, that breakdown is

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Speaker 7: really simple. When we ask people, do you want to

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Speaker 7: make decisions about how to raise your family, about how

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Speaker 7: to engage in your community, how to run your business,

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Speaker 7: or do you want the government to do it. If

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Speaker 7: you want to do it yourself, you're a Republican. If

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Speaker 7: you want the government to make those decisions for you

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Speaker 7: how you raise your kids and what you do in

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Speaker 7: your business, then you're a Democrat. And when you put

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Speaker 7: it in those simple terms, I think it gets real easy,

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Speaker 7: and it's really hard to find a lot of people

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Speaker 7: out there who would prefer the government telling them how

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Speaker 7: to run their life.

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Speaker 2: Sarah, you know you said you know Trump Biden. Obviously

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Speaker 2: you've endorsed Trump. You think Trump is the guy you

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Speaker 2: work for presidents, that's Trump. How confident are you it

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Speaker 2: is going to be Joe Biden. It's a topic a

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Speaker 2: regular topic of discussion on the show.

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Speaker 7: I mean, you know, I'm hopeful frankly that it is,

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Speaker 7: because I think he's such a weak and terrible candidate

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Speaker 7: that that helps Republicans and certainly put President Trump in

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Speaker 7: a better position to win next November. So I'm hopeful

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Speaker 7: that he remains their guy and their nominee. Whether or

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Speaker 7: not he does. I've never been one to pretend that

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Speaker 7: I can understand democratic thinking, so I will leave that

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Speaker 7: to them to figure out their process and just continue

522
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Speaker 7: focusing on how we continue to build a strong coalition

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Speaker 7: of conservative Republicans to propel President Trump across the finish line.

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Speaker 5: Thanks so much, and congratulations on how things are going

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Speaker 5: as Governor, and we look forward to talking to you again.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, Thanks so much for having me on. At some point,

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Speaker 7: you guys need to come down to Arkansas and visit

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Speaker 7: us in person.

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Speaker 2: No doubt, only if I can see my beloved Razorbacks. Hey,

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Speaker 2: there you go. You're learning college football a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Although it's been a rough season for Sarah's Razorbacks right now.

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Speaker 7: It's been a rough season, but you know, we're always

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Speaker 7: optimistic around here. But no matter how bad the season is,

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Speaker 7: we'll still call the Hogs and I'll be happy to

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Speaker 7: teach you how to do that when you get here.

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Speaker 2: Alrighty fantastic, Thanks so much, Governor Sarah Sanders, Thanks so much,

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Speaker 1: They're here to shed lights on the truth every day.

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Speaker 2: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.

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Speaker 5: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. All Right,

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Speaker 5: this was inevitable and I think what's happening to me

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Speaker 5: is going to be happening to a lot of you

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Speaker 5: out there as soon as there was a decision to

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Speaker 5: hire eighty seven thousand new IRS agents. Ultimately, the focus

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Speaker 5: is not just gonna be on billionaires. It's not just

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Speaker 5: gonna be on people and what their costs were on

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Speaker 5: their private jets or how they expensed their fourth different

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Speaker 5: mansion in a third different country. It's ultimately gonna end

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Speaker 5: up on you and me and everybody out there who

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Speaker 5: the IRS determines they're going to treat like a criminal.

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Speaker 2: And I just want to share what's going on. I

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Speaker 2: talked about this.

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Speaker 5: I think it was last week Buck when I said

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Speaker 5: that I was being audited for the first time ever

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Speaker 5: the same year that I began to do this show

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Speaker 5: with Buck, and it got some attention.

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Speaker 2: People are like, oh, what's going on?

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Speaker 5: I also now, Buck have gotten a notice from the

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Speaker 5: IRS that was on my twenty twenty one tax return.

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Speaker 5: I got a notice from the IRS on my twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty two tax return, and in that notice they said

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Speaker 5: that I owed thirty nine dollars and seventy five cents

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Speaker 5: in additional tax. Now, just to put it into context

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Speaker 5: for all of you, I'm very fortunate. I in the

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Speaker 5: last decade have started to do pretty well in my

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Speaker 5: professional career. I have paid over ten million dollars in

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Speaker 5: federal income tax over the past two years. I got

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Speaker 5: a notice on my twenty twenty two tax return that

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Speaker 5: I owed an additional thirty nine dollars and seventy five cents.

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Speaker 5: Mind you, I have paid over ten million in federal

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Speaker 5: income taxes. You cannot tell me that they are not

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Speaker 5: screwing with me now. So I wrote a new check.

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe they wanted the thirty seven dollars. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the ten million that you gave them already. That's all

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Speaker 2: well and good, but there's thirty seven bucks that's left

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Speaker 2: on the table.

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Speaker 5: There to be fair. Thirty nine dollars and seventy five cents.

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Speaker 5: I was tempted to write thirty nine seventy six so

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Speaker 5: they would have to send me a refund for the

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Speaker 5: extra penny and taxes that I had paid. But this

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Speaker 5: is what's going to happen to many of you. And

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Speaker 5: I want to talk for a minute about my twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty one return because I think a lot of you

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Speaker 5: out there that run small businesses, a lot of you

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Speaker 5: out there that are doing everything right, paying your taxes.

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Speaker 5: You don't have Swiss bank accounts out there, buck, I

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Speaker 5: don't even understand how this is legal. On my twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty one tax return, they haven't alleged that I underpaid anything. Again,

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Speaker 5: they alleged that I underpaid thirty nine dollars and seventy

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Speaker 5: five cents in my twenty twenty two tax return, so

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Speaker 5: I legitimately paid that yesterday. But they're telling me we

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Speaker 5: want all of your bank statements for the past couple

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Speaker 5: of years. We want you to hand over any sort

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Speaker 5: of business relationship contracts that you have so that we

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Speaker 5: can review them. And I'm just sitting back and I've

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Speaker 5: got a law degree, but I have not spent a

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Speaker 5: lot of time in tax law, to be fair, But

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Speaker 5: how is it that our federal government can come to

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Speaker 5: me not say that I owe anything at all additional

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Speaker 5: on my twenty twenty one taxes, but man that I

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Speaker 5: produce hundreds, if not thousands, potentially of pages of documents

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Speaker 5: that I hand over to them that they then scour

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Speaker 5: to try and argue that I owe more money. Like

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Speaker 5: you can't just say to someone under existing law. And

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Speaker 5: who knows what Joe Biden, right, let's put a preface there.

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Speaker 5: But an FBI agent couldn't just knock on my door

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Speaker 5: and say we want your cell phones and your laptops

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Speaker 5: and your iPads, and I would say what for, and

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Speaker 5: they would say, well, we just want to review all

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Speaker 5: of them to make sure that you haven't committed any crime.

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Speaker 5: Shouldn't there be probable cause here on a tax return

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Speaker 5: to say hey we think you owe I mean, I've

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Speaker 5: turned in my tax They see all of the bills,

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Speaker 5: you know, they have access to everything that I receive

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Speaker 5: in payment, and there's no allegation that I haven't paid

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Speaker 5: everything that I owe. They're just saying to me, hey,

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Speaker 5: we need hundreds of pages, if not thousands of pages

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Speaker 5: of your records so that we can review them.

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Speaker 2: How is that legal? I just I don't understand it.

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Speaker 5: And the reason why I'm telling the stories when I

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Speaker 5: try to be completely honest with you, But what's happening

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Speaker 5: to me with eighty seven thousand additional IRS agents is

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Speaker 5: going to be happening to a lot of you out

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Speaker 5: there listening right now.

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Speaker 2: We'll also understand, you know, if you go back to

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Speaker 2: the founding, there was the issue of the general warrant

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Speaker 2: or a writ of assistance right where they could go

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Speaker 2: in just because they felt like it and look at everything.

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Speaker 2: So this was the customs officials, So they could go

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Speaker 2: into your homes, look at all your papers, look at

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Speaker 2: all your everything and anything they wanted to because they

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Speaker 2: had a rid of assistance and the Crown wanted to

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Speaker 2: know and that was it. And then they could obviously

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Speaker 2: seize contraband, levy fines and even imprison you. And the

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Speaker 2: notion of a general warrant just an unspecified give us

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Speaker 2: all of this stuff was something that very much bothered

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Speaker 2: the founders and something that you know, helped lead to

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Speaker 2: this country we know of as America because this was

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Speaker 2: this was common with the customs officials and they used

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Speaker 2: it as both a compliance tool but also a harassment

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Speaker 2: tool against people. And you had no means of redress.

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Speaker 2: You know, the IRS effectively operates with a general warrant

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Speaker 2: as and they can just decide that it's your turn.

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Speaker 2: You know, they see something that is some indicator and

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Speaker 2: they decide it's your turn to get the treatment that

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Speaker 2: you are getting right now, Clay. And you know, why

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Speaker 2: should you think about it? It's an additional tax of

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Speaker 2: your money and time to make sure that you are

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Speaker 2: complying with taxes you've already paid. Why shouldn't that Why

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Speaker 2: shouldn't there be a loser pays? For those of you familiar,

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Speaker 2: they have this in some core proceedings in the UK,

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Speaker 2: the government should have to if you complied with all

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Speaker 2: your taxes, the government would have to pay your legal

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Speaker 2: fees if they're going to get your audit. That would

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Speaker 2: obviously change the whole full auto process pretty substantially, but

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Speaker 2: they should They should know. There should be big bright

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Speaker 2: red flags. You know, we think this person did something wrong.

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Speaker 2: That's not what goes on. They're just like, yeah, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna check out all your stuff.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they just said, we want all your bank account statements,

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Speaker 5: we want all of your business related contracts.

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Speaker 2: We want it.

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Speaker 5: Like, so, why should they be able and they haven't

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Speaker 5: alleged any wrongdoing at all? Like, why should they be

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Speaker 5: able to do that? You couldn't again, just knock on

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Speaker 5: my door and say give me your phone. We just

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Speaker 5: want to make sure you haven't done anything wrong. I

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Speaker 5: And to your point, I do think, uh, and I

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Speaker 5: know there's a lot of Republicans out there listening, but

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Speaker 5: I don't even think this is particular part is particularly

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Speaker 5: partisan because obviously people of all different political persuasions. Although

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's a coincidence that I never got

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Speaker 5: audited and then I started doing this show and suddenly

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Speaker 5: they're going through everything with a fine tooth comb. My thing,

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Speaker 5: buck is, why would you not be in a position

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Speaker 5: where the government does have to pay my accounting and

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Speaker 5: legal fees because they're alleging that I've something wrong.

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Speaker 2: I haven't.

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Speaker 5: When they review all of this now, they may try

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Speaker 5: to do the loophole thing, like they just asked for

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Speaker 5: thirty nine dollars and seventy five cents in back taxes,

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Speaker 5: right when you've gotten over ten million from me in

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Speaker 5: the past couple of years. Why again, to just give

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Speaker 5: you a sense of how tiny that percentage of tax

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Speaker 5: issue they're claiming is. There's no way that whoever uncovered

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Speaker 5: the thirty nine dollars and seventy five cents that they

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Speaker 5: claim I owe in any way that our government made

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Speaker 5: money based on the time that they spent pouring over

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Speaker 5: my twenty twenty two tax return. But why should they

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Speaker 5: be able to make these claims? Like I don't know,

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Speaker 5: I need to do full research, but it seems like

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Speaker 5: it should be equitable that if you've done nothing wrong,

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Speaker 5: the government should be on the hook for whatever costs

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Speaker 5: I incur trying to respond to them.

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Speaker 2: I also think it is worth pointing out that the

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Speaker 2: I think it was an employee of the Trump organization

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Speaker 2: in New York. They is elderly guy. They send him

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Speaker 2: to prison for like not you know, listing a company

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Speaker 2: car use or something very accounting, you know, tiki tac,

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Speaker 2: low level tax stuff, and you know they send him

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Speaker 2: to prison for it. So, you know, do you also

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Speaker 2: have this notion that I think, oh, well, you know,

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Speaker 2: if you're a good person, you camply everything's fine. It's like, no,

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Speaker 2: the tax code is so complicated and some of the

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Speaker 2: interpretations are open enough or vague enough that they can

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Speaker 2: effectively find a fault with you, no matter who you are.

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Speaker 2: And so that's a very difficult place, I think, for

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Speaker 2: anybody who thinks we live in a free society, it's

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Speaker 2: a difficult thing to argue that our tax code is

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Speaker 2: anything other than well, it's a mess, obviously, but there's

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Speaker 2: also a lot of special favors and corruption and social

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Speaker 2: engineering and nonsense hidden in the thousands and thousands of

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Speaker 2: pages that comprise the US tax code. Ted Cruz ran

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Speaker 2: a twenty sixteen play on a Bosst and the IRS

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Speaker 2: and a one page tax code. Yeah, we should have

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Speaker 2: a one page tax one hundred per one hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: And for people out there, I think that on my

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Speaker 5: tax return, I think I could hire ten esteemed accountants,

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Speaker 5: super smart guys and gals to go through everything, look

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Speaker 5: at all my documents, look at everything file or return,

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Speaker 5: and I think all ten would come up with a

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Speaker 5: different dollar that I owed and that that should be paid.

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Speaker 5: And I don't think most of them would be that

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Speaker 5: much different in the total dollars. But that's that's not

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Speaker 5: because somebody is like trying to be shady or something.

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Speaker 5: It's because the tax code is so complicated that applying

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Speaker 5: it consistently and evenly, even when you have brilliant people

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Speaker 5: working on it as their full time job, they can't

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Speaker 5: do it, and they can't all agree on the exact

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Speaker 5: same dollars.

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Speaker 2: And so as.

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Speaker 5: As I just I look at this, and I say,

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Speaker 5: anybody out there who saw this for any thing other

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Speaker 5: than what it was, eighty seven thousand additional IRS agents

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Speaker 5: is going to put so many of you who are

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Speaker 5: honestly and legally paying your taxes under the same microscope

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Speaker 5: that I'm under right now. And god forbid, you're donating

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Speaker 5: a lot of money to Republicans or you're doing something

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Speaker 5: that is in the disfavor of the current administration. I

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Speaker 5: definitely believe that puts you under the microscope. Even more so,

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Speaker 5: definitely show up.

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Speaker 2: To your IRS audit wearing your MSNBC hat and if

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Speaker 2: it comes up, just be like, I don't like those

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Speaker 2: Clay and Buck guys. They're bad. I love I love

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Speaker 2: Scarborough and Madow. Because I'm not I'm not even gonna

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Speaker 2: show up.

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna do the IRS agent, who I'm sure

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Speaker 5: hates me and hates the things that I say, I'm

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Speaker 5: not gonna do their They're not going to get the full,

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Speaker 5: uh full excitement of my personal appearance. I'm going to

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Speaker 5: have my attorneys, I'm gonna have my accountants show up.

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Speaker 5: I really want them to just go double birds and

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Speaker 5: say screw you guys. And honestly, I think the IRS

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Speaker 5: should have to pay me for all of the trouble

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Speaker 5: that this is going to incur again. It's just it's

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Speaker 5: it's coming for a lot of you. I think it's

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Speaker 5: just important to understand. But the thirty nine dollars and

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Speaker 5: seventy five cents that the IRS got from me Buck

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Speaker 5: is going to completely handle the thirty three trillion in

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Speaker 5: debt that has been currently incurred.

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Speaker 2: Imagine that, Buck, You got.

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Speaker 5: A company that takes a third of everything that everybody makes,

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Speaker 5: and they still managed to spend thirty three trillion dollars

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Speaker 5: they don't have.

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Speaker 2: Uncle Sam can afford a few more pumpkin spice lattes

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Speaker 2: Senator Ted Cruz is with us now from the great

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Speaker 2: state of Texas. He's got a new book out, Unwoke,

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Speaker 2: to have you back, Sir clay.

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Speaker 8: Buck, great to join you both. Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: Can we start with this I don't know if you've

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Speaker 2: get a chance to see it Centata, because it just

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Speaker 2: came out recently in the last few hours. I believe

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Speaker 2: Quinnipiac poll first one that we have seen here where

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Speaker 2: Trump is up two points nationally on Biden. We are

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Speaker 2: seeing a lot of encouraging numbers in the Swing States

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Speaker 2: with a Trump or honestly even some other Republican candidates

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Speaker 2: as well against Biden. Are you are you cautiously optimistic

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Speaker 2: or are you worried people are seeing these numbers far

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Speaker 2: too soon?

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Speaker 6: Well, look, we're a year out, so the world can

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Speaker 6: change dramatically in a year. But I will say this,

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Speaker 6: the Biden record is a train wreck. Biden came into

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Speaker 6: office three years ago and he inherited peace and prosperity,

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Speaker 6: and we now have inflation hammering working men and women.

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Speaker 6: The cost of everything as skyrocketed. We have crime rates

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Speaker 6: that are out of control, We have the worst illegal

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Speaker 6: immigration in our nation's history, and we have two wars waging.

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Speaker 6: We have the largest land war in Europe since World

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Speaker 6: War Two. We have the worst war in the Middle

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Speaker 6: East in fifty years. All of that has happened under

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Speaker 6: Biden's failed leadership. So I think the American people a

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Speaker 6: large majority recognize we're on the wrong track. I think

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Speaker 6: it is an enormous opportunity to change track, and I

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Speaker 6: hope and pray we do that. I'm committed to doing

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Speaker 6: everything I can to fight to win the election in

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Speaker 6: November in my race, I'm running for reelection in Texas,

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Speaker 6: and nationally, we've got to win the White House back.

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Speaker 5: You've run several races in Texas, You've run national campaigns.

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Speaker 5: What are the numbers look like in Texas right now

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Speaker 5: for Trump? Because we've heard and also for you, but

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Speaker 5: we've heard a lot about Hispanic voters moving to the

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Speaker 5: Republican camp, and certainly we saw that to a large

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Speaker 5: extent down on the border in twenty twenty and twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Both.

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Speaker 5: Are you still seeing those trends in Texas based on

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Speaker 5: the numbers you're seeing. Is the Hispanic movement towards Republicans

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Speaker 5: continuing to grow based on the data you're seeing on

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Speaker 5: the ground in Texas?

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Speaker 6: So yes, and that part of the story is encouraging

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Speaker 6: right now, Trump is leading in Texas right now, I'm

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Speaker 6: leading in Texas. That being said, Texas is a battleground state.

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Speaker 6: You're right that Hispanics are trending right. But at the

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Speaker 6: same time, we've seen nationally the two biggest demographic trends

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Speaker 6: in the country have been blue collar voters moving right.

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Speaker 6: That's moved Midwestern states more Republican. But at the same time,

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Speaker 6: suburban voters, particularly suburban women, moving left, and that's moved

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Speaker 6: big suburban states more Democrat. You know, for Texas. For

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Speaker 6: my reelect, we're anticipating a very serious fight in Texas.

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Speaker 6: My last reelect six years ago was the most expensive

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Speaker 6: Senate race in US history. We were out spent three

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Speaker 6: to one, and I won by less than three points.

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Speaker 6: I won by two point six percent. Chuck Schumer has

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Speaker 6: made clear I'm his number one target in the country.

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Speaker 6: And if you want to give a warning sign of

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Speaker 6: why Texas is a battleground, look no further than Georgia

872
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Speaker 6: and Arizona. Georgia and Arizona four years ago they had

873
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Speaker 6: four Republican senators. Today they have four Democrat senators. Both

874
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 6: voted for Biden over Trump. And that challenge is the

875
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 6: suburban women. Georgia is dominated by suburban women around Atlanta,

876
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 6: Arizona's dominated by suburban women around Phoenix. And in both instances,

877
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 6: those voters throughout two Republican senators and elected two Democrat

878
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:55,240
Speaker 6: senators instead. That's why Schumer has put a bullseye on Texas,

879
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 6: because our demographics are very very similar to Georgia and Arizona,

880
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 6: and so we're anticipating.

881
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 8: A real fight.

882
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 6: We're gonna win, but we're gonna win because we're doing

883
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:04,439
Speaker 6: the hard work.

884
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Speaker 8: We're raising the money.

885
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Speaker 6: By the way, go to Ted Cruz dot org, Ted

886
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Speaker 6: Cruz dot org, Ted Cruz dot org.

887
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Speaker 8: Support the campaign because we're.

888
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 6: Working eighteen hours a day to make sure we win

889
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 6: next November.

890
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: No doubt.

891
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Speaker 5: And I wanted to build on that too, because you know,

892
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Speaker 5: I live here in Tennessee, bucks in Florida. I would

893
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 5: say Texas, Tennessee and Florida have seen a monstrous amount

894
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 5: of new residents coming in. And I'm sure you hear

895
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 5: it all the time. You see don't Texas or don't California?

896
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Speaker 5: My Texas. Yeah, the same thing happens Tennessee in Florida.

897
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Speaker 5: To what extent do you believe the new residence in

898
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Speaker 5: Texas politically help or hurt you and Trump and anybody

899
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 5: else's who's fighting for truth to justice in the American

900
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 5: way in Texas.

901
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 6: So look, it varies and they're cross cutting currents. There

902
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 6: are some people who are in blue states California and

903
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 6: New York or Illinois, and they're fed up. They're fed

904
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 6: up with the high Texas, the high regulations. They can't

905
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 6: stand the woke pols. They couldn't stand the COVID shutdowns,

906
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 6: and they decide they want to leave. And they look

907
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 6: across the country and the folks that pick Texas, they decide,

908
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 6: I want to be in Texas. The data show they're

909
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 6: actually more conservative than the media.

910
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 8: And Texas voter.

911
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 6: They come to Texas, they buy a pickup truck and

912
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 6: boots and a hat and a shotgun, and I call

913
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 6: them refugees for freedom. I want those folks come to

914
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Speaker 6: Texas and live free in our great state. The challenge

915
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 6: in Texas is we also have a second group of

916
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 6: folks coming in, and that is when a company moves

917
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 6: to Texas and they're fleeing terrible economic policies, but they

918
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 6: then transfer their employees and those employees didn't make an

919
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 6: affirmative decision. I want to be in Texas. They just

920
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,399
Speaker 6: see their job move and they stick with their job.

921
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Speaker 6: And I think the data shows those employees vote exactly

922
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 6: like they did where they came from. And so, for example,

923
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 6: you had a bunch of tech companies moving into Austin, Texas.

924
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 6: That's great for economic growth, but they're bringing tech workers

925
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Speaker 6: that are voting like blue state California Democrats. And how

926
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 6: those two groups intersect. I think we'll say a lot

927
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 6: about the impact on Texas or Tennessee. Tennessee has a

928
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Speaker 6: lot of companies moving into it as well, so you've

929
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 6: got both kinds as well. I think Florida in some

930
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 6: ways is better off, and that the people coming to

931
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 6: Florida are predominantly Category one people fleeing seeking freedom. So

932
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 6: Florida's getting reader. But Texas and Tennessee we got so

933
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 6: many companies coming. In some ways, we're victims of our

934
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 6: own success.

935
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Speaker 2: Speaking of Senator Ted Cruz, he's got a new book out, Unwoke,

936
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 2: how to Defeat Cultural Marxism in America. Senator Cruz wanted

937
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 2: to give you the opportunity to just tell us he

938
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 2: wrote the book on this one. It feels like the

939
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 2: wokeness has been actually taking some losses, whether it's the

940
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 2: bud Light phenomenon or some of these box office bombs

941
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 2: that were trying to be very you know, ultra dei based,

942
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 2: et cetera. How do we win? How do we keep

943
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 2: the momentum?

944
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Speaker 6: Well, that is exactly what the book is about. It

945
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 6: just came out this past week. And what the book

946
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Speaker 6: does is two things. It number one describes how the

947
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 6: radical left took over the major institutions in America. So

948
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 6: every chapter of the book addresses a different institution. I

949
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 6: start with universities, and chapter one is universities. I call

950
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 6: universities the Wuhan lab of the woke virus. That's where

951
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 6: it was created, that's where it mutated, that's where it spread.

952
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 6: From universities, the book goes on to chapter two on

953
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Speaker 6: K through twelve education, then to journalism, then to government,

954
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 6: then to big business, then to big tech, then to entertainment,

955
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 6: to movies and TV and sports and music, then to

956
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 6: science and the politicization of science. And the last chapter

957
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 6: is on China as a central nexus intertwined with all

958
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 6: of them. The book explains number one, how these institutions

959
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 6: were seized. But number two exactly what your question is. Critically,

960
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 6: it lays out a practical battle plan for how we

961
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 6: take them back, how we recover these institutions, because if

962
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 6: we don't take them back, we're going to lose our country.

963
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 6: And you pointed to one of the examples that I

964
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Speaker 6: describe at great length, which is big business, which and

965
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 6: I talk at length about bud Light and Target. In

966
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 6: both instances, you had woke executives who didn't give a

967
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 6: damn what the customer said, and they essentially tried to

968
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 6: force their political ideology on their customers and it blew

969
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 6: up in their faces. Both bud Light and Target lost

970
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 6: tens of billions of dollars in marketcap.

971
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 8: And what's powerful about that? In terms of strategies?

972
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,280
Speaker 6: I argue number one for transparency in Sunlight, but number

973
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 6: two for on the cost benefit ledger of going woke,

974
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 6: significantly increasing the costs so that rational actors will say no.

975
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 6: And I think on big business we are seeing real

976
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 6: and meaningful victories. We need to see that across those institutions.

977
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 5: Talking to Senator Ted CRU's new book, encourage you to

978
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 5: check it out. You ever think about challenging anybody to

979
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 5: a fight during a Senate subcommittee hearing.

980
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 6: You know, I'm I'm gonna stick to the to the

981
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:15,280
Speaker 6: verbal and argumentative sword and and and probably.

982
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 2: We saw we saw you in we saw you throwing

983
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 2: down the basketball court, sir. It's not it's not just

984
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 2: the verbal pugilism for you. You you can box out.

985
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 8: You know, it's uh.

986
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 6: I will say you come play hoops with me, and

987
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 6: and I played twice a week, and I'll tell you

988
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 6: our game has has more violence than skill. But but

989
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 6: but we play no blood, no foul, and there are

990
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 6: regularly fouls because we beat the living crap out of

991
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 6: each other.

992
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 8: In fact, I had.

993
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 6: One of my staff members literally broke my thumb playing hoops.

994
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 6: I went up for a rebound. He came down hard.

995
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 6: His guy named Tony from Brooklyn. He's law cler, hell

996
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,240
Speaker 6: of a ball player, but he plays like he plays

997
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 6: like Tony from Brooklyn with with you know, a gold chain,

998
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 6: and he's like ready to rumble. And I told my

999
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 6: daughters when when my thumb was broken, I said, Daddy

1000
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 6: yelled out a very bad word. But we finished the game.

1001
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 6: You'd be proud to know we finished the game. And

1002
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 6: actually I scored again with a broken thumb. I couldn't shoot.

1003
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 6: It hurt too bad, but I did a finger roll,

1004
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 6: scored a layup, and we won the game, and then I.

1005
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 8: Was out for about six weeks in my thumb.

1006
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 5: What I'm just kind of curious, what does Tony's reaction,

1007
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 5: because Doug Bergham, I think tore is acl right or

1008
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 5: his achilles right before one of the debates, and we

1009
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 5: asked him about that. But if you're a staff member

1010
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,720
Speaker 5: who breaks the bone of your boss in a pickup

1011
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 5: basketball game, how nervous do you think Tony was when

1012
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 5: he realized that he had actually injured you.

1013
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 8: Yeah, looks he's a really good guy. I will tell you.

1014
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,959
Speaker 6: I I sort of had my revenge on Tony because

1015
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 6: I went that night on my podcast Verdict with Ted

1016
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,879
Speaker 6: Cruz and I just made fun of Tony. I said, dude, look,

1017
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:53,760
Speaker 6: I'm all for playing hard, but you have to break

1018
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 6: my thumb. Yeah, And so that's that's sort of my

1019
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 6: blowback was to make a little fun on the podcast.

1020
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 6: But he's a great guy and he did did terrific

1021
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 6: work and and look it, Actually, you guys need to

1022
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 6: come play hoops with us, because you know, Clay, you're

1023
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 6: a sports guy. Get it, get out there, and I

1024
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 6: would actually like to play.

1025
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 2: Buck, you were you were, just because I don't like

1026
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 2: college football. I've played three sports growing up competitively. I'm

1027
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 2: ready to rock Senator wire.

1028
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:21,720
Speaker 8: What sports did you play?

1029
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 2: I was tennis, soccer, and basketball. Ready to go?

1030
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 8: All right, well, both of you come on it.

1031
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 6: And by the way, you guys, I'm sorry to tell you,

1032
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 6: so we play. We play old guys against young guys.

1033
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 6: I'm sorry to tell you you're both thoroughly on the

1034
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 6: old guys side.

1035
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 5: Because he's a different generation than me. This is this

1036
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 5: is a shot to Buck's ego in a big way

1037
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 5: that he's on the old guys.

1038
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 8: All right, Buck, how old are you? Buck?

1039
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 2: I'm forty one, soon to be forty two.

1040
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 6: Okay, So so we play mostly with Capitol Hill staffers.

1041
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 6: You know what, Typically the cutoff for young guys is

1042
00:54:54,960 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 6: on Capitol Hill with staffers thirty about twenty six. And

1043
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 6: so we play with all these young guys who are

1044
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 6: body guys. A bunch of them were college athletes.

1045
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 2: Do you keep a lot of like icy hotet and

1046
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 2: bandages for the old guys? Because I things start to hurt,

1047
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 2: you know, my back hurts my knees, so we could

1048
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:14,439
Speaker 2: use some help.

1049
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 6: So look, you will be happy to know the old

1050
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 6: guys win almost every single game.

1051
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 8: And there's a reason. So listen. The young guys who

1052
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 8: are they're stronger than we are.

1053
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 6: They're faster, they have more endurance, they have more skill,

1054
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 6: but they play like horny puppy dogs.

1055
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 8: They're so excited. They go in a triple team. I

1056
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 8: gotta score. I got a score. I got a score.

1057
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 6: They go in a triple team and they screw it up.

1058
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 6: Old guys, we know we can't do that anymore. So

1059
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,720
Speaker 6: we do things like we set picks, we help on defense,

1060
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 6: we talk on defense, we pass to the open man,

1061
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 6: and we play a little bit dirty. If someone's going

1062
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 6: up for a rebound, you grab their shorts and just

1063
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 6: pull it down and something we don't get the rebound.

1064
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 8: I mean, that's that's old man basketball.

1065
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 5: That is old man YMCA basketball. What time do you

1066
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,479
Speaker 5: play about? We will play. We'll come play the next

1067
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 5: time we do our show from up in DC. What's

1068
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 5: the usual game time?

1069
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 6: So we usually play Thursday afternoon. So I'll have my

1070
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 6: team connect with you and when we get good games.

1071
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 6: A number of other senators have played with us. Some

1072
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 6: house members play with us, and so you guys will

1073
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 6: come out and we'll have some fun.

1074
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 5: That'll be fun. That'll be a lot of fun. We'll

1075
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 5: do it, Senator Ted Cruz. Check out the book Unwoke.

1076
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Speaker 5: It's in stores everywhere. And he's just talking to you

1077
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 5: about basketball. You know, Buck's talking about getting injured. We're

1078
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