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Speaker 3: that there are no survivors of the submersible the group

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Speaker 3: It apparently imploded under water and they found the debris.

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Speaker 3: They have not found any bodies, but they found debris

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Speaker 3: Full report in about thirty minutes from ABC News here

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Speaker 3: on the Seawn and Ken show. We're now going to

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Speaker 3: bring on the Orange County District Attorney Todd. Spitzer haven't

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Speaker 3: talked to him in a while, and one thing that

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Speaker 3: came up was, well, the House Speaker Kevin McCarthy appeared

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Speaker 3: in Orange County before Todd was there, along with a

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Speaker 3: number of Congress members from Orange County or Republicans, and

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Speaker 3: Todd the first thing I noticed this story and what

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Speaker 3: we call the Elsigundo Times. Did you read it, Todd?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? It was terrible. Oh my right. They made this

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Speaker 4: about illegal immigration. This has nothing to do with illegal immigration.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let me explain, because first they highlighted the fact

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Speaker 3: that you ran a campaign where Orange County's not going

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Speaker 3: to become La when it comes to crime.

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Speaker 1: And what we're talking.

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Speaker 3: About here was home invasions and burglaries and Chilean gangs

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Speaker 3: that are carrying this out. These are legitimate issues. But boy,

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Speaker 3: they really tried to put you in your place in

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Speaker 3: this story.

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Speaker 1: Ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So, if I can let me frame it. First

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Speaker 4: of all, jury duty may be difficult, but it's a

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Speaker 4: duty and it's an important one, and I rely on

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Speaker 4: jurors every single day to use their good common sense

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Speaker 4: right to see through the bs that it's put on

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Speaker 4: by the defense to make sure we keep our communities safe.

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Speaker 4: So I apologize you had to do that yesterday, but

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Speaker 4: it's very important to right.

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Speaker 3: Well, I got out in three hours. I was pretty

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Speaker 3: So you know they're not going to put me on

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Speaker 4: Well, I understand that if I could frame the issue,

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Speaker 4: So let me when these smashing grabs and the robberies

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Speaker 4: have been, as we all know, pervasive throughout the United States,

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Speaker 4: but really pervasive here in southern California. So I started

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Speaker 4: are committing these smashing grabs and these home burglaries both

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Speaker 4: off the charts. Well, we have now rested over one

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Speaker 4: hundred and fifty individuals that have committed these crimes in

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Speaker 4: Orange County. You haven't had me on lately because we've

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Speaker 4: been working very very quietly to put these cases together

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Speaker 4: to arrest these people. And this is basically how it

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Speaker 4: breaks down. We have Los Angeles Criminal Street gangs who

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Speaker 4: is Chilean nationals individuals who are coming here Ken from

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Speaker 4: Chile on a visa that I had no idea even existed.

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Speaker 4: The United States of America has a visa program. If

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Speaker 4: you paid twenty one dollars and sell out an online application,

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Speaker 4: two years ninety days at a time with this simple

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Speaker 4: world that participate, including Chile. The sending country is responsible

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Speaker 4: we can decide who should come in and who cannot. However,

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Speaker 4: existing federal law, not new law, not about illegal immigration,

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Speaker 4: It's about a visa program. And that's where the La

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Speaker 4: I talked about with Speaker McCarthy, but I cannot show

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Speaker 4: him Ken because I have authority to see this Homeland

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Speaker 4: Security document with over four hundred photos of Chilean nationals

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Speaker 4: who have been arrested in the United States for committing

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Speaker 4: these crimes. But the Speaker of the House was never briefed,

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Speaker 4: never told by Homeland, never told by the FBI that

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Speaker 4: and getting worse. The good news is, after having Kevin

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Speaker 4: no more funding for Secretary Myriarchists to administer the Homeland

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Speaker 4: to the Chilean visa program less and until he can

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Speaker 4: certify that his Secretary of myarchus and Chili that they're

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Speaker 4: doing the background check and they're not sending their criminals

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Speaker 3: How many countess how many countries do you say you're

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Speaker 3: getting involved in this visa waiver program?

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Speaker 1: How many countries around the world.

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Speaker 4: So there's forty internationally, but there's no South American country

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Speaker 4: except for Chile. Because Argentina and Columbia have been kicked

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Speaker 4: off for failure to comply for exactly these kinds of reasons.

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Speaker 1: And the other thirty nine countries do this background check.

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Speaker 4: They all do the background check, and they're all in

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Speaker 3: So what's the problem with telling Chile to do the

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Speaker 4: The program because this problem. We had a briefing me

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Speaker 4: and the Speaker and some of the other members of Congress.

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Speaker 4: We met in my offices on Friday last week with

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Speaker 4: Homeland Security and with the FBI, and the problem has

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Speaker 4: the administration since twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen. Yet there's been

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Speaker 4: nothing done by the Biden administration by Secretary of Mayorcus,

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Speaker 4: Secretary Blincoln, of the Secretary of State to stop Chili.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why they're so interested in protecting the

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Speaker 4: country at Chile. But you know, Ken, how many people

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Speaker 4: this visa?

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Speaker 3: I dude, have no idea into the United States.

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Speaker 4: How many came in on this online twenty one dollar

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Speaker 1: I'm going to guess you over time a couple of thousand.

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Speaker 4: How about three hundred and fifty thousand?

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 1: And how many of them are part of the crime rings.

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Speaker 4: Well, obviously it's a very very small percentage. And listen,

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Speaker 4: I love the country of Chile. I want people to

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Speaker 4: come here from all over the world. I think that's fantastic.

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Speaker 4: But the fact of the matter is they're sending their criminals.

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Speaker 4: So on June fourteenth, the ambassador from Chile to the

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Speaker 4: United States apologized profusely to me in a letter he

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Speaker 4: sent me. And now he said, within the next couple

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Speaker 4: a new online security system to protect Americans. I want

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Speaker 4: it to happen. I hope it happens, but I'm telling you, Ken,

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Speaker 4: we need to ramp up the pressure. It's the Chileans

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Speaker 4: in large numbers who are coming here using the visa,

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Speaker 4: burglarizing us, stealing our property, scaring the heck out of us.

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Speaker 4: And then they go back and oh I didn't mention this.

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Speaker 4: When I take them to court, guess what the judge says, Well,

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Speaker 4: what's the criminal background on this person? So we can

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Speaker 4: hold them in custody, they'll have it, and we say

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Speaker 4: we don't have any So you know what they say,

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Speaker 4: zero barro. Guess what happens. Not one of them has

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Speaker 3: And you know that down in Chile, these organized groups,

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Speaker 3: they're aware of all of this, So this is exactly

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Speaker 3: how they plan this. Let's send people to the United

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Speaker 3: background check and there's no consequences because they don't know

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Speaker 3: our background being criminal.

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Speaker 4: And guess what, ken they're now sending their lawyers into

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Speaker 4: because that's just the cost of doing business, right. They

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Speaker 3: And you said this was a Chilean ambassador who reached

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Speaker 3: out to you and said that they might do something.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so, Juan Gabriel Valdez, he's the ambassador of Chile

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Speaker 4: to the United States. We have ramped this up, and

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Speaker 4: there's been so much press in the country of Chile,

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Speaker 4: like I've been all over Chilean TV, which is crazy

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Speaker 4: and they want to do more interviews. I have no

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Speaker 4: the government of Chile is finally feeling the pressure. But

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Speaker 4: thanks to Kevin McCarthy who put this on the front burner,

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Speaker 4: we now have potential legislation to cut Chili off from

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Speaker 4: coming here and burglarizing our homes and just.

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Speaker 3: To keep it fair here. The Orange County Register did

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Speaker 3: a much better story on this, and they even cited

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Speaker 4: Well, let me tell you. The agent that briefed us

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Speaker 4: from Homeland Security and the FBI told us unequivocally, there

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Speaker 4: And it's now time for Secretary of Majorcas to step

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Speaker 4: up and protect the United States of America. For goodness sakes,

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Speaker 4: he is the secretary to the United States Department of

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Speaker 3: He should be impeached. All right, Todd, thank you so

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Speaker 3: much for coming on.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate your work on that so much.

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Speaker 3: All right, Rarenz County District Attorney Todd Spitzer. Yeah, one

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Speaker 3: of his deputy senior Deputy DA says that of one

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Speaker 3: hundred and fifty cases he's handled in the last year,

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Speaker 3: twenty eight involved Chilean nationals. That was Todd Spitzer to

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Speaker 3: talk about this problem with a visa program. It's called

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Speaker 3: a visa waiver. You can come from Chile to the

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Speaker 3: United States and stay for a period of time, but

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Speaker 3: there's no background. The other countries are involved in this,

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Speaker 3: and Todd said, there's thirty nine others do background checks.

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Speaker 1: Jilli wouldn't.

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Speaker 3: But now he's got word from the ambassador that they

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Speaker 3: are going to take steps to check on the people

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Speaker 3: who are taking advantage of this visa waiver program, some

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Speaker 3: of whom are criminals. These are these break ins and

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Speaker 3: we talked about this for a while. It's occurring not

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Speaker 3: just in Orange County but La Sambordino counties. They have

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Speaker 3: very sophisticated methods to to break into people's homes. More

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Speaker 3: Going that deep nothing is safe, And of course he's

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Speaker 3: referring to the submersible the Titan, owned by a company

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Speaker 3: Why the state of Washington's overtaken California. They implemented a

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Speaker 3: He's been defending this, saying two point one billion in

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Speaker 3: and our focus will be, of course, the big story

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Speaker 3: Of course, the big news this afternoon, which broke with

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Speaker 3: In this case, it was the wreckage of the Titanic,

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Speaker 2: Alex, Hey there, Kennon, Yeah, I mean, this was the

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Speaker 2: And then again like we've been describing, and not to

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Speaker 2: and that's what they believe happened, likely on Sunday. They've

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Speaker 6: It gave way.

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Speaker 2: They think they were looking at Titanic or close to it,

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Speaker 7: The debris is consistent with a catastrophic loss of the

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Speaker 6: That's a rear Admiral John Mauger there.

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Speaker 2: So they found it thirteen thousand feet down, just a

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Speaker 2: And they say that teams are going to begin wrapping

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Speaker 6: Then they would handle that then. But they're going to

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Speaker 5: The initial thing we found was a nose cone which

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Speaker 6: We then found a large debris field.

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Speaker 2: And Ocean gave that company you were talking about, Ken

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Speaker 2: a lot like an airplane where repressurized and depressurized so

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Speaker 2: many times that he was worried about that it would

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Speaker 2: go undetected and ripped between the layers of titanium. But

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Speaker 2: then he was fired for bringing that up. They settled

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Speaker 2: out of court. Boeing and University of Washington and NASA

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Speaker 2: they've been separating themselves, saying that they didn't play a

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Speaker 2: role in this. NASA saying they gave a little bit

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Speaker 2: of help on design early on, but that they didn't

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Speaker 2: build it, they didn't test it. Boeing saying it had

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Speaker 2: nothing to do with this capsule. University of Washington, which

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Speaker 2: they had been quoted as from the company, is having

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Speaker 2: a role in this.

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Speaker 6: They say they didn't either. So can the company survive?

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Speaker 6: Who knows.

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Speaker 2: But as of today, no website and they know that

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Speaker 2: the five aren't coming back, so we don't know what's

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Speaker 2: going to go on with them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if indeed it did implode, you wonder

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Speaker 3: about the maintenance records and exactly what they do to

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Speaker 3: check these submersibles after they send them down each time.

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Speaker 3: What people probably don't realize Alex, and I know you do,

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Speaker 3: is going to this kind of depth in the ocean.

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Speaker 3: And I heard the Coastguard officials say it every time

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Speaker 3: he's asked a question. This is incredibly complex, and this

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Speaker 3: is of course very dangerous thing to do.

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Speaker 2: It is dark, it is murky down there, it is

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Speaker 2: cold down there. Communications don't work without a tether going

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Speaker 2: all the way down there. The pressure is absolutely incredible

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Speaker 2: that even titanium and carbon fiber was not enough. And

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Speaker 2: you know quite often when sea explorers will go down

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Speaker 2: that they're in a capsule that may be used once

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Speaker 2: or a couple of times. They were using this like

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Speaker 2: a what was a commercial venture in the sense of,

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Speaker 2: you know, pay money and you could go down and

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Speaker 2: see Titanic. They had done I think twenty five somewhere

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Speaker 2: around twenty five of the trips down there that it

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Speaker 2: was being used over and over again. So if what

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Speaker 2: the security concern of that ex employee was of pressurizing, depressurizing, pressurizing, depressurizing,

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Speaker 2: filling up like a balloon and then whoops, you get

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Speaker 2: a rip in the carbon fiber. That's something they're going

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Speaker 2: to have to figure out. But is it safe to

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Speaker 2: be doing it like this? I mean this, this may

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Speaker 2: be proof.

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Speaker 3: No, this was quite a rescue. It was at least

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Speaker 3: three countries. I saw Canada, France and the US all

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Speaker 3: involved in this.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the UK as well. A lot of money.

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Speaker 2: We don't know, you know, technically who pays for it,

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Speaker 2: although the individual countries will handle it, but there were

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Speaker 2: a lot of resources they came into.

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Speaker 1: It, all right, Alex, thank you very much for that report.

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Speaker 3: You got it, Alex Stone, ABC News for KFI covering

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Speaker 3: of course since this unfolded. Sunday is when we first

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Speaker 3: got word that this submersible was missing. After contact with

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Speaker 3: the ship that was monitoring it ceased and they apparently

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Speaker 3: would text each other, which is kind of bizarre, and

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Speaker 3: as everyone said the first day or so, that's not unusual.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes they do lose contact for hours, which led everyone

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Speaker 3: to believe that they could be alive. And then it

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Speaker 3: was this countdown as to how much oxygen they had left,

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Speaker 3: and then the drama was even if they popped to

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Speaker 3: the surface, they have to be pulled out of there

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Speaker 3: because it bolted from the outside.

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Speaker 1: But it looks like and I read this.

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Speaker 3: The first day or so from one of the experts

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Speaker 3: who said, I have a feeling that the whole thing

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Speaker 3: imploded and there may be no hope. So it was

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Speaker 3: British billionaire Hamish Harding, French Titanic expert Paul Henri Nargalay,

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Speaker 3: the Ocean Gates CEO doctin Rush, and then the Pakistani

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Speaker 3: businessman his name is Shazada the Wood and his nineteen

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Speaker 3: year old son Sulan are the five that apparently perished

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Speaker 3: on the submersible. More coming up Johnny Ken Show KFI

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Speaker 1: Moistline.

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Speaker 3: We'll have the calls tomorrow, So this is my last

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Speaker 3: seven eight eighty six. Just talked about, of course, the

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Speaker 3: big story this afternoon that the five people that will

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Speaker 3: aboard the submersible, which is called titan a company called

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Speaker 3: ocean Gate, where they go way down in the ocean

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Speaker 3: to looking interesting things like the wreck of the Titanic.

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Speaker 3: Apparently that vessel imploded and they don't know whether they

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Speaker 3: can never recover the bodies, but the wreckage confirms that

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Speaker 3: it did fall apart. I tried to get somebody on

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Speaker 3: who'd been on one of these things. We're going to

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Speaker 3: pick up this story from NBC four. I'll tell you

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Speaker 3: now this was recorded and played before today's news, but

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Speaker 3: they do interview a man from California who did go

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Speaker 3: on the ocean Gate titan a couple of years back.

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Speaker 3: This is from Alex Rosier and NBC four.

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Speaker 8: It's very traumatic for me.

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Speaker 9: Bill Price spoke of his concern and heartache knowing his

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Speaker 9: friends are on board the missing submersible.

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Speaker 8: I'm hoping like in our instance, everyone is focused on

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Speaker 8: not necessarily the worst case scenario, but how do we

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Speaker 8: resolve the issue and get up safe.

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Speaker 9: Bill knows two members of the crew, Paul Henry Nargalaie,

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Speaker 9: a French diver and Titanic expert, and Stockton Rush, the

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Speaker 9: captain and CEO of ocean Gate, the company in charge

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Speaker 9: of the voyage, that.

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Speaker 8: If anyone's going to be able to get the crew

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Speaker 8: back safe.

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Speaker 1: It's those guys.

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Speaker 9: He met them in twenty twenty one when he was

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Speaker 9: on board that same submersible when they attempted to reach

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Speaker 9: the Titanic twice.

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Speaker 1: The first voyage also had problems.

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Speaker 8: The first dive did not go as planned. After about

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Speaker 8: an hour or so, we lost contact. At that point

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Speaker 8: in time, there was no concern at all. I think

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Speaker 8: everyone had full faith in Stockton and the rest of

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Speaker 8: the crew because they had been down so many times.

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Speaker 8: In the process of trying to correct it was found

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Speaker 8: out that the one side of the propulsion system was

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Speaker 8: not working. So at that point we figured it it's

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Speaker 8: time to call it quits, and we made the decision

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Speaker 8: to ascend. They were able to determine the issues involved,

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Speaker 8: wrecked those and established some safety features and protocol At

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Speaker 8: the same time. With that in mind, sucked and had

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Speaker 8: asked if I wanted to go the following day.

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Speaker 9: The second trip was a success.

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Speaker 8: This was the first time that we actually made it

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Speaker 8: down to the Titanic itself. I was fortunate to be

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Speaker 8: there the first time we had seen.

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Speaker 1: The bow section.

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Speaker 9: Is this safe in your view?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 8: Nothing is safe when it comes to going that deep.

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Speaker 8: They make that very clear on the onset. They say

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Speaker 8: that if you have the sub and you put about

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Speaker 8: twenty five seven forty seven's on top, that equates to

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Speaker 8: the amount of pressure that's being put onto the submersible.

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Speaker 8: So everyone knew going in at the risks, absolutely you

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Speaker 8: sign everything, you know the risk. Again, in my case,

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Speaker 8: I'd put my faith in the people.

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Speaker 9: Now two years later, Bill is once again putting faith

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Speaker 9: in the people on board and the search cruise.

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Speaker 8: If anyone can pull it off, these guys can.

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Speaker 9: He's still keeping hope. He's hoping for a miracle.

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Speaker 8: For me because I've had not only the experience but

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Speaker 8: also the relationships that makes it very very difficult.

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Speaker 9: Bill is not only concerned about the rescuer's ability to

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Speaker 9: retrieve the submersible, but he's also saying that it will

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Speaker 9: be a process if they find them, just to get

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Speaker 9: the people out. But he is encouraged by these small

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Speaker 9: signs of hope, and he's hoping for more good news

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Speaker 9: in the next few hours.

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Speaker 3: Well, as I said, that was recorded before the tragic

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Speaker 3: news today, and if you heard that part, Bill Price

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Speaker 3: was his name from California. He was on that vessel

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Speaker 3: a couple of years back. He talked about all the pressure,

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Speaker 3: how many seven forty seven's of pressure come down on

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Speaker 3: the submersible and could be one of the reasons that

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Speaker 3: it imploded, just too much to send it two.

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Speaker 1: And a half miles deep into the ocean.

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Speaker 3: So all right, Conway, Hey.

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Speaker 6: We have the latest on this.

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Speaker 10: I guess the US Navy heard what it believed was

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Speaker 10: the explosion. Oh really, yeah, so we'll we'll have fun.

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Speaker 3: Did you ever figure out what the tapping noises or

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Speaker 3: the noises that they heard yesterday was a big story

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Speaker 3: or no?

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Speaker 10: No, you know they say that sound underwater can travel

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Speaker 10: one thousand miles. Yeah, so it could be you know,

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Speaker 10: a guy in the Bahamas, you know, banging on his

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Speaker 10: motor boat.

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Speaker 6: It could have been.

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Speaker 3: Well, most of us aren't going to spend two hundred

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Speaker 3: and fifty grand on an adventure like this anyways, that's right.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, I worry about the risks what we

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 10: Look, we have very subtle things that we do, you know,

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Speaker 10: that are are less complicated and less dangerous, like flying

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Speaker 10: to Hawaii. Oh wait a minute, A plane had to

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Speaker 10: come back from La Extra, Hawaii because smoke filled the cabins.

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Speaker 6: No, I guess you can go anything you do.

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Speaker 1: You know you can get screw anything.

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Speaker 3: You can do if you're in the air Underwater's right.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Dodgers employees union agree. They agreed to a deal.

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Speaker 10: And you know what, I'm not joking here. They have

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Speaker 10: a very difficult job. If you've ever seen drunk guys

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Speaker 10: at a one o'clock Sunday game, try to get a

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Speaker 10: beer after a seventh inning, that's a that's a big ask.

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Speaker 1: Your life is on the line, that's right.

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Speaker 10: That's right when you say only two beers and the

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Speaker 10: guy once you know guy, the guy has two beers

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Speaker 10: every eight seconds, wants to load up.

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Speaker 6: And then Dean Sharp is coming on.

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Speaker 10: We'll talk about homes and it'll be a great Thursday afternoon.

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Speaker 10: By the way, I don't know if you've been outside

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Speaker 10: for any long period of time. This is one of

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Speaker 10: the most spectacular weather days we've ever had in southern California.

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Speaker 1: The last couple of days have been nice.

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Speaker 3: We had a lot of marine layer here in the

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Speaker 3: morning here at the beach, but up nicely this afternoon.

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Speaker 1: It's beautiful.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 6: You know, you gotta get out. I don't know if

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Speaker 10: Or you're on the late shift, but if you're at home,

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Speaker 10: got to get out and feel part of this day.

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Speaker 6: That's right. We always have to remember to do that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and a good dig dog too.

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Speaker 6: You alright, that's it coming up.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much.

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