WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema: Trancers II 0:00:03.040 --> 0:00:10.080 Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:14.680 Hey you welcome to Weird House Cinema. 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:17.639 This is Rob Lamb and this is Joe McCormick. And 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:21.360 today it's all Time Cops. It's not the movie Time Cop, 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:25.759 it's another Time Cop movie. This is one where you know, 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:28.800 there are different ways you get into a piece of 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:31.680 B cinema. Sometimes you watch a trailer and it really 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:35.800 grabs you. Sometimes you just hear the pitch and it 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:40.120 gets the hooks in. But for me, this movie transfers 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:43.400 to the Return of Jack Death. It lured me in 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:47.479 with one of the best B movie posters I've ever seen. 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:50.839 I can't remember how I first came across this. How 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:53.120 did we get started on the transfer train? You were 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:55.520 talking about transfers and then I found this poster. 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:58.360 I think, yeah, a couple of things came together. I 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:03.560 think I got a preview of a Full Moon Entertainment 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:06.679 streaming channel in order to watch shock Waves, and then 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:09.160 forgot to unsubscribe, and you know, so I had it 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:11.280 for a month, and then we were talking about Full 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:15.800 Moon Entertainment and the question was raised, I think by 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:20.840 Seth are all the films in the Full Moon Entertainment 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:23.880 Catalog or they are they all essentially Evil Bong and 0:01:23.959 --> 0:01:26.400 Ginger dead Man. And I was like, no, no, no, no, 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:28.520 you know there's some early stuff. I think there's some 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:31.480 good stuff in there, maybe the Transfer movies. I haven't 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:33.640 seen them yet. And then the next thing I knew, 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:36.920 I had a bout of insomnia. So I fired up 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:38.560 Transfers one and started watching it. 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:41.160 Okay, that's right. So you were talking about Transfers one 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:43.679 and you were pitching me on the concept, which which 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:47.600 sounded quite enticing, sort of similar. It sounded like a 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:53.000 cross between Time Coop and there's a series of video games. 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:56.840 I've never played one, but the games are called Assassin's 0:01:56.920 --> 0:02:01.600 Creed and the premise of them is that you don't physically, 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:04.320 in your body go back in time, but you can 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:08.880 send your mind back in time to inhabit the body 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:10.960 of one of your ancestors. Is that right? 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:14.359 I think that's how it works. Yeah. I'm not really 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:15.440 versed in those games. 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:18.560 Either, Okay, And so that's one of the basic plot 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:22.000 mechanics of Trancers, right, that it has a drug based 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:26.239 time travel mechanism where you can send your brain, or 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:29.959 at least your consciousness back into the body of one 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:32.519 of your long dead relatives. 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:35.520 Correct. Yeah, Roughly speaking, if we're going to lean into 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:39.440 what's going on, there are seemingly two methods of time 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:42.680 travel in the film. There's the genetic ancestral drug technique 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:46.840 to move consciousness and a physical time travel technique with 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:50.200 severe limitation. So there is a continuation or survival of 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:53.720 consciousness in these films akin to reincarnation, as well as 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:56.639 a consciousness based model of time. And it seemed to 0:02:56.680 --> 0:03:00.359 indicate that time is largely an illusion created by conscious 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:04.399 and can be manipulated through pharmacology and manipulated to such 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:07.880 a degree that then physical time travel is possible as well. 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:11.480 That's right. Transfers too gets deep. This is I remember 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:14.440 when I first signed up for Netflix many many years ago. 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:17.079 It was interesting because, like, you would tell it what 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:20.920 movies you liked, and then it would start suggesting its own, 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:25.880 Like Netflix curated thematic subgenres for you. And I remember 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:29.320 one of the little categories that curated for me based 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:32.560 on the movies that I had liked previously was mind 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:36.840 bending thrillers. And so I think this is technically a 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:38.240 mind bending thriller. 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:41.720 Yes, it bends the mind. 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:44.840 It's a little bit. Yeah, it bends it in multiple directions. 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:47.320 But I got to come back to this poster. So 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:49.960 you were telling me about trancers, and then I looked 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:52.960 up the poster but ended up seeing the poster for 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:57.840 transfers to the Return of Jack Death. This thing is beautiful. 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:01.920 It belongs in the Eufisia. It's so it's got a 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:05.280 painting of the main guy in the movie. But I 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:07.320 was not familiar with this guy. I guess his name 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:12.040 is Jack Death, right like mega death, not like the 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:14.880 actual word death. And then the painting he looks like 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:18.480 Elaine's boss from Seinfeld, you know, the guy with the 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:22.480 like very smooth, slickback white hair and the dark eyebrows, 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:25.200 and he's looking kind of like Sam the Eagle, looking 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:28.240 kind of stern and handsome with a strong jawline. But 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.800 he's got a long coat on. It's almost like, you know, 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:35.680 he's like a flasher creep, but inside the coat it's 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:39.120 not his body. It's like a galaxy full of stars. 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:42.000 And then there are a couple of people standing with him, 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:46.280 two women each holding guns. One of them is Helen Hunt, 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:50.200 kind of smiling in a mild way, holding a shotgun 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:54.200 and wearing the mom jean'siest mom jeans that have ever 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.960 been created. Oh and they're also like standing on the 0:04:56.960 --> 0:05:00.000 surface of Mars, which doesn't correlate to anything that happened 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:03.640 in the movie. Right. Do you know why in this 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:06.919 poster Jack Death has a galaxy inside his coat? 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:10.359 Well, I mean, there's nothing in the film to indicate 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:12.920 why this would be, but I guess if we lean 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:15.080 into it, he's a you know, he's from the future, 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:18.040 so he is. He has a sci fi nature to him. 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:21.560 And if you can, I don't know, you're spending time 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:24.840 and space. That's about as much as I can come 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:25.200 up with. 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:28.480 Okay, So I guess one thing we should acknowledge is 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:31.240 that this is yet another episode where we're covering a 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:34.479 sequel without having covered the original film. And I think, Rob, 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:37.680 you're going to sort of do recap duty for us, Yeah, 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:41.080 to tell us about the first Transfers movie. But we 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:43.440 do not apologize for doing this. In fact, I think 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:46.359 some of my favorite episodes of Weird House Cinema have 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:49.040 been where we covered a sequel without covering the original. 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:51.800 I don't know why that often works out so well. 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:54.400 Something about it is kind of liberating, But I feel 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:56.960 like it's something we're going to keep doing, and we 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:59.640 maybe even need like a dedicated word for like the 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:01.960 seq velocity episodes. 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:04.960 Or yeah, because I think one of the reasons that 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:09.200 it works is that when you're dealing with sequels, especially 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:13.160 sequels of this caliber, you know, in sequels of genre films, 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:17.040 there are at least one of two things are likely 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:20.200 to be happening here. So on one level, a sequel 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:22.839 is a chance to move beyond the establishing setting and 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:25.880 origin stories and get into the meat of a new, 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:29.680 fresh story, provided, however, that you don't have to then 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:32.480 reset heaven and Earth to make a sequel work. So 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:35.279 I would say that a great example of this is 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:38.760 Blade two, where Giama do Toro did not have to 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:41.200 deal with any of like the origin story of Blade 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:43.080 for the most part, and just got to get into 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:47.280 just run right into a new adventure with only minor resetting. 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:49.760 It's kind of like getting to start a movie in 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:50.640 the second act. 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:54.520 Yeah. Probably, I love this film, obviously, But a bad 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:57.400 example of this would be Highlander two, where everything was 0:06:57.440 --> 0:06:59.680 wrapped up in Highlander one, so in order to do 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:02.479 a equal they really had to reset having an Earth 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:04.240 and inject a whole bunch of new material. 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:06.880 Yeah, there are a lot of sequels that have to 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:10.920 essentially undo the previous film in some way in order 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:14.080 to exist, and on certain occasions that can be a 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:17.760 kind of like bold and gutsy and admirable move. This 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:21.440 is a widely hated movie, but one one that does 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:23.120 this in a way that I think could have been 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:26.760 great is Alien three. Alien three. I mean, I guess 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:28.680 I'm not gonna spoil anything for a movie that's been 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:32.200 out this long. Alien three begins by killing most of 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:37.360 the characters that survived Aliens. Yeah, and and love characters, yeah, 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:40.559 beloved characters that all die right at the beginning, actually 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:43.880 off screen. It's just like it happens in between the films, 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:46.160 and a lot of people like this, but something about 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:48.560 me always kind of appreciated like this could be the 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:52.240 setup to a real powerful gut punch of a third 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:55.520 Alien movie. Unfortunately, Alien three is it's one of those 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:58.640 movies that is it's hard to say it's bad because 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:01.480 I think it's essentially an unf finished film. We don't 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:04.160 we didn't ever get to see what Alien three would 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:04.680 have been. 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:08.560 Yeah, so so many great aspects to it, I mean, 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:09.880 has a wonderful cast. 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:13.760 Pete Posselway, Charles S. Dutton. Yeah, it's got an amazing cast. 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:17.320 And Dance as a oh arly likable human being, which 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:19.600 or at least a more relatable human being than he 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:21.520 tends to play. I don't I don't remember all the 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:25.920 wrinkles in his character, but he wasn't a complete bastard desire. 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:29.160 Call Charles Dance is just wonderful. Yeah, it has a 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:32.040 great cast, has in a way a strong setup. It's 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:34.760 just yeah, like I said, it's basically an unfinished film 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:38.480 that was nevertheless released and kind of really suffers for that. 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:41.800 It's sort of held together by duct tape and paper clips. 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:45.440 But that was all a tangent to say. There are 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:47.760 some cases where it feels like it can be really strong. 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:50.199 Most of the time, when your sequel has to undo 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:52.840 the previous film, it's just really irritating. 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:57.240 How do you feel about Halloween one Halloween two? Because 0:08:57.240 --> 0:09:00.400 Halloween One ends with like Donald Pleasant is like finally 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:03.800 we have killed him, and then Halloween two begins with 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:06.440 oh wait, my bad, I'm sorry I missed him, or 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:07.400 he's not dead. 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:11.840 You know, I mean Halloween two is not the worst 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:15.120 slasher movie and not the worst slasher sequel. Like it's 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:20.120 a pretty competently executed slasher horror movie. But yeah, it's 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:22.920 it's totally unnecessary, and it's quite clear that it was 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:25.760 just just kind of a cash grab. It's like the 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:28.360 first movie was really successful, we got to do another one. 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:30.760 I mean, I don't think it doesn't feel it like 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:33.720 Carpenter didn't even direct it. I think he co wrote 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:37.480 the screenplay if I'm not mistaken, but I could be 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:41.360 wrong about that. But whoever was all the creative forces 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:45.080 behind it. It is a competently made horror movie, but 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:46.520 their heart wasn't really in it. 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:50.320 Yeah, so yeah. The next thing about sequels is definitely 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:54.520 the rehash and redo area of sequel making it in 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:57.360 its worst case, you have a like direct to video 0:09:57.440 --> 0:10:02.360 cash in that is intentional, it just complete, letely lacking 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:05.120 of the originality of the first film. But you also 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:08.080 see this this reverse and that's when you have particularly 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:11.800 a lower budget or an indie picture that does really well, 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:16.640 and then the sequel is a chance to essentially redo it, 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:20.280 hopefully with improvements to the budget, cast, script, et cetera. 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:23.520 I think prime examples of this would be Evil Dead 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:27.680 Too and Fantasm Too, both of which benefited from larger 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:31.440 budgets and are both kinds of sequel slash remakes. I 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:34.400 know fans are torn on some of the issues regarding these, 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:37.520 and there are arguments about like what's better Phantasm War 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:40.839 or Phantasm Too, But undeniably these are cases where the 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:43.600 filmmakers got to go back and spend a lot more money, 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:48.319 maybe with a lot more you know, caveats attached to 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:51.679 how they use that money, but still they got to 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:54.040 explore the same dream with more cash. 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:55.840 I don't know if the same is true of Phantasm 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:57.920 two because I haven't seen it, but certainly with Evil 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:01.280 Dead two there's a big difference, not just in in budget, 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:03.400 not just in the resources they had to work with, 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:05.360 but in the tone of the movie. Whereas the first 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:08.600 Evil Dead movie is like a is like a dark, straight, 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:12.480 gross horror movie, the second one is a comedy essentially. 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:15.160 Yeah, yeah, so you get to tweak the tone even 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:17.480 in cases, and then sometimes I can think it can 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:18.360 have great results. 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:20.800 But now, how does this apply to transwers, Because if 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:23.360 I'm not mistaken, I think the first one actually got 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:26.560 a theatrical release, and this one, I don't know, but 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:28.959 it feels extremely straight to video. 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:32.680 Yes, this one was straight to video, unlike the previous one. 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.400 I couldn't find any information about the actual budget for 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:40.400 Transwers too, so this one maybe cost as much, maybe 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:44.120 cost more, but I doubt it. I think it costs less. 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:47.440 It's certainly made at least one key upgrade, and that's 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:49.480 in villain casting, which we'll get to in a bit. 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:52.040 But they largely rehashed the plot of the first one, 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:57.120 except with additional complications and additional characters. But I feel 0:11:57.120 --> 0:12:00.560 like they brought almost everybody back, so you know, it's 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:03.120 kind of like a cast reunion to a certain extent. 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:06.640 Okay, well, so if you're about to recap the first 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:09.080 movie for us, the first thing I've got to know 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:12.040 is it's called transfers to the Return of Jack Death. 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:15.320 Where did he return from? Did he return from the 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:18.199 future to the past or from the past to the future. 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:22.640 No, he doesn't return from anywhere. He returns to your 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:27.280 TV screen basically. Okay, that's the only thing that returns 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:30.880 to because there's talk of him returning to the future, 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:32.839 but he does not return to the future. He doesn't 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:34.720 return to the future until Transfers three. 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:37.240 So it just literally could have been called Transfers to 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:39.360 Jack Death is in another movie. 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:44.960 Yeah yeah, all right, so previously on Transfers. Okay, So 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:47.959 angel City of the twenty third century, it has a 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:51.040 lot of problems. Most of Los Angeles is underwater and 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:54.640 a psychic mastermind known as Whistler, who uses his psychic 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:58.760 powers to turn other humans into transfers zombie like thralls. 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:03.280 You know, these these are psychically controlled sleep ragents who 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:07.080 can be triggered into a monstrous rampage. But luckily you 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:10.480 have some transfer hunters on the case. And there's none 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:16.920 more excellent at singing trancers than old Jack Death. 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:20.000 Jack Death is sort of the Harley Stone of trancers. 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:23.480 Yeah, so he's a pro at taking them out. Pro 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:27.559 it sings in those trancers. Meanwhile, the police actually have 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:30.720 Whistler's body, They have the super bad guy's body, but 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:34.000 they don't have his mind because Whistler, we find out, 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:37.439 has used the time travel drug to send his consciousness 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:41.560 back in time to nineteen eighty five, where his consciousness 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:45.800 now inhabits his ancestors body and his ancestor in nineteen 0:13:45.800 --> 0:13:48.520 eighty five is a police detective, so complications. 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:49.280 Uh oh. 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:52.720 Now, while in the past, Whistler hasn't just been hiding, 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:56.360 he's been hunting down and murdering the ancestors of his 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:59.800 key enemies in the future members of the ruling Council 0:13:59.880 --> 0:14:03.480 of Angel City. So he's you know, he's basically running 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:07.120 a terminator game on his enemies here. So Jack Death 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:10.360 has been hired by the one remaining member of the 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:14.760 ruling Council to follow Whistler quote down the line, down 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:19.240 the timeline by using the time travel drug, and Jack 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:23.080 Death's consciousness emerges in his own nineteen eighty five ancestors 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:27.080 body a reporter in in nineteen eighty five Los Angeles, 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:32.560 but before he goes, he shoots Whistler's future body, his 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:35.600 comentose body dead before he goes, So he's kind of like, 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:37.480 I'll go get him, but I'm not bringing him back alive. 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:40.360 He's not coming back to this body. Too dangerous to live, 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:43.280 all right, Okay, So where does Helen Hunt come in. 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:46.040 She's kind of okay. Once in the past he meets 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:48.760 up with this punk girl named Lena, and that is 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:52.240 Helen Hunt, Okay, And so she's she's she's in it. 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:54.920 She's gonna help him. She you know, she gets her 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:58.160 eyes are open to the time Shenanigan's going on, so 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:00.120 she's she's right there with him to help him to 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:03.240 fight the battle. They fall in love, et cetera, you know, 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:06.760 as one would expect, and they hunt down the drunken, 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:10.960 homeless former pro baseball player hap Ashby, who is the 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:14.640 nineteen eighty five ancestor of the future ruler who is 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:17.560 in jeopardy. So in this quest, death is aided by 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:20.320 some high tech equipment that is also sent back through 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:23.880 time and space to him, presumably via a different time 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:26.440 travel methods. So once you've had your consciousness zipped back, 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:29.640 they can send you a small box like the size 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:32.800 of a cigar box that has a few, you know, 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:34.280 special tools that you can use. 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:37.480 Does this include the watch that allows you to stop 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:38.720 time for ten seconds? 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:41.800 Yes, this includes the watch that gives you a long 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:44.160 second if you push a button. The long second is 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:46.400 just pausing time for a second, letting you do some 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:47.760 bullet time stuff. 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:49.200 But heredibly. 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:53.960 Yeah, But he also has two doses of a serum 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:57.440 that he can use if the serum is injected into 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:01.760 somebody who is a conscious from the future occupying a body. 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:04.480 Then it will kick that consciousness out and send it 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:07.720 back to the future. So these two doses. One is 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:10.400 to allow Jack death to return to the future for 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:13.560 his consciousness to leave his ancestor's body. The other dose 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:18.280 is to send Whistler out of his ancestor's body. But 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:21.120 since Whistler is dead in the future, he'll just go 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:25.640 into oblivion. Okay, all right, So he defeats Whistler, but 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:28.960 he faces a problem. Only one of the two consciousness 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:32.440 booting doses survive the battle. He can only inject one 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:36.720 of them. He can kill Whistler in the past and 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:39.600 use the one dose to return himself, but that means 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:42.960 killing the body that Whistler inhabits, which is an innocent 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:46.400 man with a family. So instead he ejects Whistler's consciousness 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:50.880 into oblivion, thus sparing Whistler's ancestor, and remains behind. In 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:54.400 nineteen eighty five to Mary Lena played by Helen Hunt 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:56.880 and live in the twentieth century. 0:16:56.880 --> 0:17:01.560 Happily ever After with in the nineteen eighties in southern California. Wow. 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:07.480 Perfectly serviceable movie, but I think in some in some 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:10.640 ways a better movie, but ultimately I think Transfers two 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:11.080 is more. 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:14.600 Fun I'm gonna guess that Transfers two is significantly funnier 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:15.640 than the first movie. 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:19.520 Yes, it definitely leans into the comedy a little bit 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:24.439 more without getting into like full blown yu you know, 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:26.919 yuck a minute mode that you kind of see in 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:30.720 the later full Full Moon Pictures releases. And we'll get 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:33.760 into some of that in a bit here. But Transfers 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:36.560 one did have a few laughs, and I'll mention one 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:37.479 or two of them as we go. 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:41.280 Okay, so that's the previous movie. What's the elevator pitch 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:44.680 on the second movie? Jack Death is back, Baby, Jack 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:48.399 Death all over again. Yeah, I was trying to think. Okay, 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:51.359 I've got an all pitch on the second movie, which 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:55.800 is that, due to unforeseen trancers, Jack Death realizes that ooh, 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:58.440 he had another wife in the future that he forgot 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:01.080 to tell Helen Hunt about, and now she's back in 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:03.800 the past, and so now he's faced with the dilemma 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:06.760 must he choose between them or can he marry both women? 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:09.320 Let's hear that trailer audio. 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:11.760 My name's Jack Death. I'm a transfer hunter from the 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:12.840 twenty first century. 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:15.240 It's been seven years since I went down the line 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:16.600 at Old California. 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:20.119 Life's been good. I thought i'd send my last transfer, 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:22.080 but nothing lasts forever. 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:35.199 Jack Transfers too, the Return of Jack Death, Jack twentieth 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:36.320 cent She must be getting to you. 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:41.679 You have no idea. I actually haven't listened to this, 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:44.600 but I imagine there's a really good in a world 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:45.480 narrator in it. 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:49.600 Yeah, the trailer. I actually don't advise watching the trailer 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:51.880 in full because the one that the official one that's 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:55.480 uploaded by Full Moon, is like three minutes long and 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:58.080 is basically a summary of the entire film. If let 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:00.439 me shows you everything, and I know it's late. Not 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:02.760 that spoilers are going to ruin your enjoyment of Transfers too, 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:05.800 but you know, I think it's it's worth going into. 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:08.080 Fresh Oh wait a minute, then, should people not listen 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:09.520 to this episode before they watch? 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:10.760 Oh no, they can do that. 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:11.560 That's far right. 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:14.120 I mean, I think everybody who's been listening to weird 0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:16.720 El Cinema, you know the deal. We're gonna you know, 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:18.760 we're going to talk loosely about the movie. We're going 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:20.640 to talk about the people in it, and then we'll 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:22.520 get more into the plot. So if you need to 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:25.160 jump out halfway through, you know where to jump out at. 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:27.320 You know, if you need to go watch the movie 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:29.800 and you want you don't want any spoilers, otherwise we're 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:31.800 going to spoil pretty much everything. Well. 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:34.520 I greatly enjoyed transfers too, but I would not say 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:37.200 a lot was hanging on the outcome of the plot 0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:37.520 for me. 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:41.280 Yeah, it's pretty predictable. You know what's going to happen, 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:42.080 all right. 0:19:42.160 --> 0:19:43.200 So who made this thing? 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:47.639 Well, Charles Band, of course he's the director. He has 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:51.400 an original story credit on this. Born nineteen fifty one. 0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:55.360 We've discussed his bio before, but briefly, he's the man 0:19:55.440 --> 0:19:59.520 behind Empire International Pictures and then Full Moon Features, and 0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:02.280 he directs did some really awesome eighties and nineties sci 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:04.960 fi and horror films, you know, lower budget, fair for sure, 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:10.240 before going increasingly in the Evil Bong Ginger dead Man direction. 0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:14.840 This is I believe our third Charles Band production, but 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:16.920 our first film that he actually directed. 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:20.600 What were the other two? He was a producer on Robot. 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:22.920 Jocks, right, Robot Jocks and Arena. 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:25.840 Two absolutely glorious films. And I think there's a Robot 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:27.399 Jocks tie in later on here. 0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:30.840 Yeah. Yeah, So he has sixty eight directorial credits, and 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:33.760 I'd say most, if not all, of it from recent 0:20:33.800 --> 0:20:37.080 decades is certainly of the Evil Bong sort. But this 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:39.320 movie is from the era in which Band was still 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:42.240 making films that seemed to aim to be more genre 0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:47.240 action entertainment without just being you know, abject horror comedy 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:50.879 and so forth. I'm talking stuff like nineteen eighty two's Parasite, 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:55.560 which starred Demi Moore, metal Storm, The Destruction of Jared 0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:58.720 Sin from nineteen eighty three, which which I really enjoyed. 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:03.600 That's a fun, sort of otherworldly post apocalyptic mashup thing. 0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:06.959 Nineteen ninety two's Doctor Mordred, which is kind of a 0:21:07.000 --> 0:21:11.639 Doctor Strange picture before we had a Doctor Strange picture, okay. 0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:15.440