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Speaker 1: It is Thursday May. This is Jaguars Happy Hour and

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Speaker 1: now America's raining Animal Crossing Champion Jay Peace. I have

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Speaker 1: no idea what that means, but welcome into Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: Its Thursday May twenty one. J. P. Shaddick from the

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Speaker 1: Palatial Home Studio Side Sports Extra Room. Yet again, we're

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Speaker 1: two months in and it could be a little longer

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Speaker 1: while we're doing the show here. We've got plenty of

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Speaker 1: show ahead today. Jaguars analyst Jeff Lackerman coming up shortly.

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Speaker 1: Senior writer John Osier will break down his podcast this

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Speaker 1: week featuring Paul pas Leslie a little bit more, and

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Speaker 1: we'll hear from CBS sports play by play announcer I

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Speaker 1: An Eagle. He's also the Thursday night football announcer on

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Speaker 1: West with One with Tony Boselli. He is also an

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Speaker 1: announcer for the NBA on T n T. He is

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Speaker 1: also an announcer for the Brooklyn Nets on television, so

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Speaker 1: he has a multi faceted approach to what's going on

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Speaker 1: right now, NBA, NFL, Radio, TV, All the rest will

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Speaker 1: here from Iron coming up. So a good show coming

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Speaker 1: up today. Glad you have chosen to join us on

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Speaker 1: tinton A m in Jacksonville and on the Jaguars social

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Speaker 1: media channels. The podcast archive coming up a little bit

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Speaker 1: later as well. Let's go to the phone line and

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Speaker 1: welcome in our co host, Jaguars analyst Jeff Loghuman. Good afternoon,

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Speaker 1: Jeff KP. It's like Iron Eagle, Inc. That'd be the

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Speaker 1: best way to call him, right, pretty much, He's everywhere.

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Speaker 1: That's the way it's supposed to be, right. I build

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Speaker 1: the brand, and the brand keeps building, you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's he's Uh, he's a good guy too, you know. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, we we get to come across a lot

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Speaker 1: in the sporting industry, and and uh, he's one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite guys down earth. Works hard and has earned

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Speaker 1: everything that he's gotten and and deservedly. So he's a

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Speaker 1: very talented guy. Well here from my coming up obviously,

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Speaker 1: but I was looking through his bio and stuff the

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Speaker 1: last couple of days, and um, I've done it for

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Speaker 1: a while obviously, but I didn't realize he's been doing

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Speaker 1: NFL game since a long time. Yeah, when I was playing,

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Speaker 1: and him crossed pass Gosh years ago. And uh and

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Speaker 1: then obviously, uh he made his name in the NFL

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Speaker 1: is kind of where he really cut his teeth. And uh.

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Speaker 1: But good dude, you know, you root for guys like that,

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Speaker 1: and uh, he's gonna be around for many years to come,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean, at some point somebody's got to

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Speaker 1: replace the Jim Nance and the and the al Michael's, right,

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Speaker 1: He's knocking on the door for sure. Lot going on logs,

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Speaker 1: Let's uh, let's talk a little ball. You know, I

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Speaker 1: don't even know if it's really talking ball right now.

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Speaker 1: these days, obviously with the everything going virtual. But um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: could start it, you know, last It could have started

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Speaker 1: to start Phase one opening. It's very limited, no coaches,

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Speaker 1: Paul was maybe the most interesting to start off with,

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Speaker 1: just for the reason that you site he uh. I

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Speaker 1: had read a couple of things and talked to Paul.

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Speaker 1: I think it was last summer, and I was always

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Speaker 1: struck by how open and how he was really sort

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Speaker 1: of trying to embrace the fact that it was going

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Speaker 1: to be difficult, and he he talked a little in

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Speaker 1: the podcast, which I'm sure JP you listened to, but

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Speaker 1: he talked a little bit in it about he thought

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Speaker 1: it was important to acknowledge that it was going to

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Speaker 1: be hard, because in a sense, why wouldn't it be,

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Speaker 1: you know, when you play at the level of the Paul,

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Speaker 1: as he retired at thirty three, probably means he's been

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Speaker 1: routine based in football for two decades. And as he said,

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Speaker 1: when you play the way he does, an approach which

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Speaker 1: most pros do if if they're playing long enough to

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Speaker 1: retire and not get cut. It's all about your diet.

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Speaker 1: You're you're obsessed with when you're working out on vacation,

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Speaker 1: you're trying to figure out a place to go work out.

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Speaker 1: It's always running through your mind. So to separate from

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Speaker 1: that is very difficult, and it strikes me from having

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Speaker 1: talked to him last week that he's doing it a

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Speaker 1: really smart job of acknowledging it's going to be difficult,

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Speaker 1: not ignoring that it going to be difficult, and eventually

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Speaker 1: finding his way to what he wants to do, which,

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Speaker 1: by the way, no surprise, and he didn't say this.

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Speaker 1: I hope I'm not putting words in his mouth. I

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Speaker 1: would be stunned if he's not coaching the next two

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Speaker 1: or three years. We talked about it a little bit

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Speaker 1: and he, uh, you know, he's he's working with t

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Speaker 1: A bank now he has worked as he's fascinated with

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Speaker 1: air you know, with with airplanes and did that and

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Speaker 1: I he talked at the end of the podcast about

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Speaker 1: how he really thinks that at first you want to

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Speaker 1: get away from football, but you can tell in his

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Speaker 1: voice the poll is there. He said, it's not fair

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Speaker 1: to his team. We're gonna be a great player just

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Speaker 1: because you mean, a great coach, just because you played.

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Speaker 1: But jp you were around him, You've been around coaches players.

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Speaker 1: If anybody who was a very very very good player

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Speaker 1: can go be a very very good coach, it's this guy.

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Speaker 1: I would be surprised. I think he head coach continued,

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Speaker 1: that's that I think he'd be fantastic at it, and

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Speaker 1: I think he gets back into it, he will be

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Speaker 1: a rock star of the coach. There is. The stories

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Speaker 1: of him around the building watching video and doing that

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Speaker 1: kind of thing are pretty epic. Obviously, you know, on

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Speaker 1: the regular week's worth of work, and then even after

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Speaker 1: a football game, he would stay after a game and

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Speaker 1: go back in the film room that afternoon that night,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, he's just played the game. And even beyond that,

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Speaker 1: there's an element of you know, we're not like this JP.

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Speaker 1: When people are around us, they don't aspire to be us.

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Speaker 1: You know, we don't lead people, you and I. But

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Speaker 1: great coaches and great leaders have an element that when

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Speaker 1: you're around them, you think, you know, it would be

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Speaker 1: good to follow this person's leap. Well, certainly because Lesnie

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Speaker 1: had that sort of an ATM. You know, he's got

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Speaker 1: that element. You can see him standing in front of

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Speaker 1: a room and players, you know, agree with him or not.

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Speaker 1: He's the kind of person who can lead other people.

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Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I know that he's not quite

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Speaker 1: ready to make that jump. And whatever he's committed to,

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Speaker 1: whatever he's doing, he's gonna commit to it. But it

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Speaker 1: feels to me like the poll is pulling him back,

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Speaker 1: and I think once he does it. A lot of

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Speaker 1: these coaches do that. A lot of the coaches who

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Speaker 1: who played in the NFL, they take two or three

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Speaker 1: years and then all right. When I was in Indy,

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Speaker 1: my last couple of years in Indy, Frank Reich was

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Speaker 1: a grad assistant. And it's not gratissist in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: but it's like quality control case. I remember talking to

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Speaker 1: him right before I left the Colts and thinking, this

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Speaker 1: guy is it's gonna be honest, way I couldn't pretty

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Speaker 1: could be a head coach, but it don't like that

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Speaker 1: he's been away from it for a while. Then the

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Speaker 1: poll comes back and uh, you know other guys trying

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Speaker 1: to be really good coaches. I'd be surprised. Positivesn't that?

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Speaker 1: Senior writer Jaguars dot Com John Osan joining us on

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday. Let's see the owners

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Speaker 1: meetings are going on. So they had a meeting I

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Speaker 1: think last week or late early this week, and then

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Speaker 1: they're gonna have another one next week. The Owner's tabled

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Speaker 1: the resolution to incentivize hiring of minority coaches and gms

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Speaker 1: that was kind of thrown out there as an idea.

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Speaker 1: They tabled that idea, but later teams must now interview

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Speaker 1: at least two external minority candidates for head coaching jobs

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Speaker 1: and at least one for coordinator jobs, and John teams

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Speaker 1: are now prevented from blocking assistant coaches from interviewing for

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Speaker 1: coordinator positions. That's also for assistant GM positions as well,

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Speaker 1: So some changes there that that second part is a

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Speaker 1: general change for the whole league. The interview minority candidates

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Speaker 1: is as as an extension of the ruining rule of sorts.

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Speaker 1: So it's obvious that the league wanted to address this

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Speaker 1: in some way this offseason, and at least so far

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Speaker 1: they have. Well, you like this the idea that the

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Speaker 1: League of I'm sure I tell you wants to do.

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Speaker 1: Don't fall asleep on it. Acknowledge it, and continue to

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Speaker 1: push and look for ideas. When you're looking for an

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Speaker 1: idea on how to fix this kind of a problem,

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Speaker 1: it's not going to be a consensus solution and it's

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Speaker 1: not gonna be an overnight solution, unfortunately. I mean, so

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Speaker 1: what the league is clearly trying to do is okay.

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Speaker 1: At first, when the ruining rule came around. I forget

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Speaker 1: what it was, but it was that mid two thousand.

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Speaker 1: It feels like because I used to talk to Tony

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Speaker 1: Dungee a lot about it when I was with the

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Speaker 1: Colts and he was working there, because he was a

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Speaker 1: big believer in it, the fact that if if you

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Speaker 1: got names out there that otherwise wouldn't be out there.

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Speaker 1: The hiring process is often guys get fluted one year,

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Speaker 1: you go interview someplace one year, the next year you're

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Speaker 1: talked about all offseason as a candidate, and then your

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Speaker 1: name gets into the coaching circle, and then a couple

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Speaker 1: of years later you get hired because owners are now

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Speaker 1: thinking about your name. So that's why he liked the

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Speaker 1: Rooney roll, because it forced minority candidate to be interviewed,

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Speaker 1: where at one time perhaps that wasn't happening. Well, that

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Speaker 1: lost its momentum. So I haven't talked Tony about it,

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Speaker 1: but I'm sure he would like the idea of the

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Speaker 1: fact that now the the coordinator positions are going to

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Speaker 1: be required to have a minority candidate interview, And to me,

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Speaker 1: that is a huge Now you're going to get more

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Speaker 1: at that level, meaning at the coordinator level, you're going

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Speaker 1: to get more minority coordinators at those levels. It's hard

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Speaker 1: to make the jump from assistant I mean wide receivers

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Speaker 1: coach to head coach. You got to get the coordinator

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Speaker 1: situation fixed first. So uh, this feels like a step

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Speaker 1: in the right direction. But it also feels like now

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Speaker 1: that they have addressed this, uh and not addressing They've

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Speaker 1: been addressing it, but it's become a huge issue this offseason.

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Speaker 1: My senses, the pedal will remain on the gas and

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Speaker 1: you'll have more and more ideas like this being discussed

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Speaker 1: over the next couple of years in the next couple

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Speaker 1: off season. John Oshey with US Jaguars dot Com seen writer.

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Speaker 1: It also means now that you know, since they can't

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Speaker 1: block assistant they can't block assistant coaches from interviewing for

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Speaker 1: coordinator positions anymore. Of the is you better have a

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Speaker 1: pretty good depth chart of coaches on your roster to

565
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Speaker 1: promote from. With that, if somebody gets picked off, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's big for all coaches because there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of There is a lot of blocking that goes on

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Speaker 1: all the time, more than you hear about, I think well,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes more than the coaches that don't hear about. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: a team will block us and uh and I even

571
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,239
Speaker 1: know they got a call and uh so that's a

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Speaker 1: major step forward for individuals. Uh. Again, it's the only thing.

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Speaker 1: What's good for individual is not always great for the team.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure there are teams that won't love that you're

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Speaker 1: you're losing good assistance. But as you said, JP, it

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Speaker 1: puts the pressure on continue to develop, coaches, continue to

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Speaker 1: churn it. Uh. I know teams will be very upset

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Speaker 1: about this, you know me, JP. I think coaching on

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Speaker 1: some levels sometimes gets way overblown and discussing the off season.

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Speaker 1: So I think generally speaking, the good teams, with the

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Speaker 1: good coaches will be able to adapt to this and

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Speaker 1: develop from within and have guys that they're ready to

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Speaker 1: do the job. All right, John, you've got about an

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Speaker 1: hour until cash you' s Marsh, what do you want

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Speaker 1: to hear from him today? Uh? You know, I think

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Speaker 1: it'll be interesting just to see what he thinks of

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Speaker 1: the Jags coming in. Uh I play and ask him

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Speaker 1: Curtis Marsh. I have fond memory of interviewing Curtased even

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Speaker 1: the dynamic kids. Uh So, maybe that'll come up. He

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Speaker 1: called him a kid about that. That was when I

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Speaker 1: covered and needed a kid now, but so was I.

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Speaker 1: We're not kids anymore, baby, We're all grown up, that's right. Uh,

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Speaker 1: we're all kids at heart though, John, good stuff. Good

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Speaker 1: to talk to you as always, and we'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you soon, all right, buddy. Thank you. Great holiday weekend.

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Speaker 1: It's always a good visit with Iron Eagle. The partial

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Speaker 1: I an Eagle. Good to see you, I And how

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Speaker 1: We're doing well. Everything is running smoothly here, thank you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Let's start though. I know you worked with Tony Boselli

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Speaker 1: best guys that I've ever partnered with. Let's go back

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Speaker 1: the NETS television games. It was college basketball conference tournament

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Speaker 1: What do you remember about that day and where were

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Speaker 1: And then lay her that night. That Wednesday night, the

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Speaker 1: that initial reaction was very personal of trying to get

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Speaker 1: but we know that there's some trepidation moving forward as

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Speaker 1: You touched on a moment ago the NFL. Uh. You know,

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Speaker 1: It's all a big question. Nobody has an answer right now,

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Speaker 1: but right so far it's been so good, but you

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Speaker 1: had is time on their side. This happened to coincide

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Speaker 1: some people initially that thought it was a bit tone deaf,

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Speaker 1: was welcomed and it was a nice distraction. We understand

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Speaker 1: but it is not the top priority. The top priority

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Speaker 1: is getting our country and our society back up to speed.

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Speaker 1: But sports plays a role in that it certainly covers

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Speaker 1: So the NFL did fill a void, but they're now

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Speaker 1: your players ready and you have to practice. There's no

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Speaker 1: sport in my mind out there that requires more of

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Speaker 1: it's interconnected in that manner. The way the schedule is

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Speaker 1: their goal. Their goal is to play a seventeen week schedule,

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Speaker 1: sixteen games for each team. Still respecting the buy but

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Speaker 1: in and day out at a facility. You can limit

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Speaker 1: when players go back home, you don't know who they

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Speaker 1: I think that's where the jigsaw puzzle is going to

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Speaker 1: get very challenging for the league. A lot of players,

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Speaker 1: more so than any other sport. An Eagle, CBS Sports

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Speaker 1: with us here on Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars Radio.

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Speaker 1: This might be a little bit premature on that note,

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Speaker 1: but NFL on CBS telecasts will announcers be allowed in

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Speaker 1: the stadium? We know it's gonna be on TV if

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Speaker 1: there are no fans, but um, how would you call

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Speaker 1: a game if you're not allowed in the stadi? Well,

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Speaker 1: two things there jp the first part of your question. Look,

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Speaker 1: I think if you compare it to the NBA, it

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Speaker 1: You are away from the action to begin with. It's

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Speaker 1: it be men and women working the cameras, so I

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Speaker 1: could envision a plan that might include announcers at the site.

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Speaker 1: Now the question is going to travel to these cities freely?

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Speaker 1: And is there enough travel that's working throughout the nation

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Speaker 1: that will allow announcers to come and go. Is there

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Speaker 1: out with all of the people in play. The second

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Speaker 1: off of a monitor in a remote location. I've done basketball,

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Speaker 1: I've done tennis, I've done golf. It can be done.

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Speaker 1: It's it's challenge, yes, certainly. If there are no fans

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Speaker 1: So you're gonna have to really check your energy and

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Speaker 1: And you're now limited to only what you see on

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Speaker 1: a little Jaguars football. Now. Life happens fast in the

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Speaker 1: National Football League. Nearly the entire starting defense is gone.

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Speaker 1: Avery Jones is here, Miles Jack is still here, Unique

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Speaker 1: and may or may not be here. That's a different

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Speaker 1: moment to where we are today in terms of personnel

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Speaker 1: there was no fear. He just didn't strike you as

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Speaker 1: that into something special. Some updates this week, The Competition

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