Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted Social
Speaker 1: Distancing Style from Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spoffer,
Speaker 1: joined as always by my trusted colleague west Hodkowitz, who
Speaker 1: is no longer in the bonus room above his garage.
Speaker 1: Weston from whence do you come? I upgraded, Mike. I
Speaker 1: am now inside my office here at lambeau Field, and
Speaker 1: I'm happy to be here. I know who am I kidding?
Speaker 1: I don't have an office, I have a cubicle. I'm
Speaker 1: in my boss's office, Duke Bobber who is still socially
Speaker 1: distancing at home. So if you have a free room,
Speaker 1: you take the free room. And here I come to
Speaker 1: you live from lambeau Field. Well, I am here in
Speaker 1: our studio and I think we got some of the
Speaker 1: lighting issues figured out in here. Look good? Um yeah,
Speaker 1: starting to look a little bit better. These zoom cameras
Speaker 1: are not quite the same as your professional high tech cameras,
Speaker 1: so we've had to make adjustments along the way. But
Speaker 1: more importantly, Wes you know what, the Packers have two
Speaker 1: training camp practices in the books. Here at the time
Speaker 1: we are taping this, and shortly after we are done
Speaker 1: taping this show. There will be practice number three, which
Speaker 1: will be the first one in pads, and we will
Speaker 1: get to more of that later in the week. But
Speaker 1: through these first two practices, a lot going on, a
Speaker 1: lot to keep an eye on. Let's break things down
Speaker 1: here in terms of our key observations on the offensive
Speaker 1: and then the defensive side. So starting on offense, what
Speaker 1: jumped out to you from days one and two, Well,
Speaker 1: both days that you and I walked back from practice
Speaker 1: again from a socially acceptable distance, Uh, I said to you.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if it's just because you
Speaker 1: and I didn't have an offseason program, although you've covered
Speaker 1: those years before, I haven't. But it just seems like
Speaker 1: there's been more happening in these first two practices than
Speaker 1: I can remember in the past. And and you know, offensively,
Speaker 1: what is really stuck up stood out to me one? Uh,
Speaker 1: it has to start with Tim Boyle. The conversation all
Speaker 1: off season has been once again about Jordan's love being
Speaker 1: the first round pick, Aaron Rodgers, YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA,
Speaker 1: get your clicks, everybody, have a great day. But Tim
Speaker 1: Boyle has sort of been the forgotten guy. And all
Speaker 1: this in Boil, as I wrote in our what we
Speaker 1: Learned from Monday's Practice story on packers dot Com, every
Speaker 1: single year he starts off really strong to camp and
Speaker 1: for the most part, he's always sustained it. And this
Speaker 1: year has been no exception. I thought he's made some
Speaker 1: really terrific throws. You know, you go back to two
Speaker 1: thousand eighteen, Mike, it was all about the big throwing ability.
Speaker 1: We you know, I play around with my friend Michael
Speaker 1: Cohen and the Tim Boil Laser show deal. But what
Speaker 1: has impressed me is how over the years, uh, he's
Speaker 1: becoming a pretty good pinpoint precision pass or two in
Speaker 1: these practices. And that's how he has enabled himself as
Speaker 1: an undrafted rookie two years ago to now be going
Speaker 1: into his third NFL season last year, is the primary
Speaker 1: backup to Aaron Rodgers. A couple throws of note that
Speaker 1: he already had Markquez Valdes scantling the very first practice
Speaker 1: puts one right where only his receiver can catch it,
Speaker 1: probably forty yards down field. And then he's also made
Speaker 1: some really nice intermediate throws too. I think about the
Speaker 1: one that he had in the slot to Darius Shephard
Speaker 1: on Monday, and then also a nice one that he
Speaker 1: had delivering the ball in stride through traffic to a J.
Speaker 1: Dillon who was coming out of the backfield on kind
Speaker 1: of a wheel route. So, Tim Boyle, you can in
Speaker 1: Jordan Love. Certainly there's gonna be a lot made about that,
Speaker 1: and he's an exceptional prospect. But there's a reason Tim
Speaker 1: Boyle's here, And I thought through the first two practices
Speaker 1: he reminded every one of that. Yeah, I've been really
Speaker 1: impressed with Boil as well, and you everybody knows about
Speaker 1: his arm strength. You mentioned the deep ball to MVS.
Speaker 1: Those kinds of things don't necessarily surprise me. But I
Speaker 1: think what stood out to me in addition to what
Speaker 1: you said, is that through these first two practices, just
Speaker 1: the the overall command and comfort and the sharpness and
Speaker 1: the smoothness of everything. You can tell. Okay, he's in
Speaker 1: his third year in the NFL. Now he's in his
Speaker 1: second year in Matt Lafleurs system, and it's some of
Speaker 1: the little things like just when he takes a checkdown throw,
Speaker 1: the timing of taking the check down is much quicker
Speaker 1: and sharper as opposed to maybe holding too long onto
Speaker 1: those first couple of reads before you just check it
Speaker 1: down and give the checkdown guy a chance to make
Speaker 1: a play. It's it's hard to describe. I don't know
Speaker 1: if I'm describing that quite right, but those are the things,
Speaker 1: those are the things that I've recognized these first couple
Speaker 1: of practices. And that's where I the word I keep
Speaker 1: coming back to his command. He just seems to have
Speaker 1: a command of the offense that is at another level.
Speaker 1: Now we're not really we're not obviously not going to
Speaker 1: get to see that in the preseason games as we've
Speaker 1: done in the past, but um, but certainly he's off
Speaker 1: to uh to a strong start. And you know, we
Speaker 1: talked about with with as far as Jordan's Love has
Speaker 1: to go, having not had any on field work in
Speaker 1: the off season as a rookie and being thrown into
Speaker 1: the new system and everything like that. I mean, the
Speaker 1: odds are very strong, and they were even before these
Speaker 1: last before training camp started that Tim Boyle is going
Speaker 1: to be the number two quarterback I think behind Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: His experience level is just too hard to ignore, and
Speaker 1: he's certainly proving that he's out to lockdown that job. Yeah,
Speaker 1: totally and and this is the thing too. I mean
Speaker 1: last year he was in that number two role that
Speaker 1: that is a job in and of itself. People just
Speaker 1: think it's the guy sitting there holding the clipboard waiting
Speaker 1: for the quarterback to get hurt and then he enters
Speaker 1: the game. It's not like that. As Tim Boyle even said,
Speaker 1: there's so much that goes into it. During the week,
Speaker 1: he is one of the primary guys responsible for helping
Speaker 1: Rogers and the quarterback coach Luke GETSI, you know, game
Speaker 1: plan to understand what tendencies are of the cornerbacks that
Speaker 1: they're gonna be facing too, you know, pick up on
Speaker 1: little nuances that could potentially help Rogers to be an
Speaker 1: extra set of eyes when he's on the sideline. That
Speaker 1: that all plays into this and it's something that you know,
Speaker 1: Jordan's love is going to be learning in this process.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is still a very young quarterback in
Speaker 1: exceptional prospect. Like I said, but Rome wasn't built in
Speaker 1: a day. And I think the NFL, the way that
Speaker 1: this has trended over the last ten years, everybody wants
Speaker 1: to draft a quarterback in five minutes later, they want
Speaker 1: to have that guy in the system. Playing starting and
Speaker 1: sometimes that works and sometimes it doesn't. But if you're
Speaker 1: not in a position where you're trying to save a
Speaker 1: head coach's job or you're not trying to change a culture,
Speaker 1: heck even sells season tickets, if you're not in one
Speaker 1: of those spots, I still think there's a lot to
Speaker 1: be said for allowing a guy to develop. Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: certainly wasn't behind Alex Smith as long as you know,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is behind Brett Farve. But still even that
Speaker 1: one year I thought made all the difference for that
Speaker 1: young man in what is now turned into a twenty
Speaker 1: four year old m VP of this league. So one
Speaker 1: of those things that consider, but beyond that, Mike uh
Speaker 1: in order for Boyle to look good, that means the
Speaker 1: offense has to have moments and and through these first
Speaker 1: two practices, whether it's been a J. Dillon, the way
Speaker 1: that the Packers have used Tyler Irvin, the you know
Speaker 1: this cat back that they claimed last year, and the
Speaker 1: returner Alan Lazar Darius Shepard, there's been a lot of
Speaker 1: guys that have stepped up and made plays, and you know,
Speaker 1: you've have been able to see some of the depth
Speaker 1: at these positions that have some question marks. Well as
Speaker 1: far as the starting offense, the number one unit is concerned,
Speaker 1: there is a competition underway. It was underway right from
Speaker 1: the get go in the first practice on Saturday. And
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about is the right side of the
Speaker 1: offensive line. The Packers, Matt Lafleur, the offensive coaches are
Speaker 1: are shuffling things around in the different eleven on eleven
Speaker 1: reps as they go through practice. There are times that
Speaker 1: Billy Turner is at right tackle with Lane Taylor. The
Speaker 1: whole Turner Taylor thing. I know I'm going to screw
Speaker 1: that up at some point, but anyway, Billy Turner at
Speaker 1: right tackle, Lane Taylor at right guard. There are other
Speaker 1: times when Rick Wagner is at right tackle and Billy
Speaker 1: Turner is at right guard. Obviously the other combination is
Speaker 1: Taylor at guard and Wagner at tackle. So the coaches
Speaker 1: are trying to find what is the best combination that
Speaker 1: is going to work on the right side of that
Speaker 1: offensive line for the Packers. And uh, this is not
Speaker 1: something that's going to be decide did tomorrow where the
Speaker 1: next day was. I think this is a competition that
Speaker 1: the coaches are gonna let this play out pretty much
Speaker 1: through the majority of camp, at least for the first
Speaker 1: couple of weeks before they they settle on what that
Speaker 1: starting lineup is going to be in Week one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and once they made the decision to to keep
Speaker 1: Lane Taylor and to figure that thing out for this season,
Speaker 1: I felt pretty confident that he was going to be
Speaker 1: in a competition for a starting job. I mean, he
Speaker 1: brings a lot of versatility. He can play both guard spots.
Speaker 1: He can play right tackle. Um, heck, I mean he
Speaker 1: played left tackle. He started a game at left tackle
Speaker 1: in this league already in a bitch So uh, certainly,
Speaker 1: this is a guy that you just didn't want to
Speaker 1: see him walk out the door. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: when you lose somebody like Brian Balaga, Mike that that's
Speaker 1: one of the best tackles that has ever walked in
Speaker 1: the doors at lambeau Field in this franchise's history. So
Speaker 1: to go ten years with him and then to try
Speaker 1: to replace him, you can't just have one remedy. You
Speaker 1: have to have multiple options. Rick Wagner was a part
Speaker 1: of that. Keeping Lane Taylor was a part of that,
Speaker 1: and keeping in mind Billy Turner's versatility is also something
Speaker 1: the Packers are considering. Going back to last year, it
Speaker 1: made a lot of sense for him to come in
Speaker 1: and probably take that right guard spot. But one of
Speaker 1: the reasons why Green Bay went out and signed him
Speaker 1: was because he can play multiple positions. The green Bay
Speaker 1: Packers when they go to Minnesota and Week one, they
Speaker 1: want to have their best five offensive lineman on the field,
Speaker 1: and this is gonna be an opportunity for those three
Speaker 1: guys to show that they can be that guy. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: shifting gears to the defensive side. There was a big
Speaker 1: piece of news on the first day of practice, and
Speaker 1: that is the uh I guess you'd call it the
Speaker 1: long awaited contract extension for Kenny Clark because GM Brian
Speaker 1: Goodakounts had been talking about this, you know, even dating
Speaker 1: back more than a year, that he wanted to get
Speaker 1: Kenny Clark in the fold long term for this defense.
Speaker 1: It took a while. Everything with the pandemic and salary
Speaker 1: cap ramifications and all that maybe delayed things a little
Speaker 1: bit in terms of finally reaching an agreement. But that
Speaker 1: agreement has been reached and the contract is official and
Speaker 1: Kenny Clark will be a centerpiece literally and figuraively in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways for the Green Bay Packers defense
Speaker 1: for the next several years. Yeah, and a remarkable signing
Speaker 1: and a remarkable job by Clark and his team to
Speaker 1: get this thing done before the start of training camp.
Speaker 1: Twenty four years old, Mike, he doesn't turn twenty five
Speaker 1: until October. Uh. An incredible rise he's made. You know,
Speaker 1: this is a guy. You know, we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: Rashan Gary here in a little bit, But Kenny Clark
Speaker 1: came in as a twenty year old rookie. He had
Speaker 1: to go through his you know, kind of bumps and
Speaker 1: bruises along the way. But man, in the December of
Speaker 1: two thousand, uh seventeen when he really started to come
Speaker 1: on there and that last month of the season, you
Speaker 1: saw exactly what Ted Thompson and this personel department liked
Speaker 1: about him and where they thought his career was headed.
Speaker 1: And to be honest with you, Mike, I feel like
Speaker 1: this kind of completes, uh, you know, a five six,
Speaker 1: seven year of evolution of this defensive front. When I
Speaker 1: started covering this team, as Kenny Clark alluded to in
Speaker 1: his press conference with the media, it was all about
Speaker 1: you know, gap filling defensive tackles, and they had one job,
Speaker 1: and that was really to take some blockers and allow
Speaker 1: the people behind them to make plays. It's not like
Speaker 1: that anymore. Kenny Clark can do it all. And when
Speaker 1: the Packers drafted him six ft three pounds, he wasn't
Speaker 1: a Ryan Pickett type, but he also wasn't like a
Speaker 1: Mike Daniels type. He was right in the middle, and
Speaker 1: he can pretty much give you everything that you want
Speaker 1: out of that one nose tackle position and allows him
Speaker 1: also to have some pass rushing opportunities. The closest distance
Speaker 1: between the defensive line and the quarterback is right up
Speaker 1: the middle, and I think Kenny Clark has shown the
Speaker 1: value in that, and certainly Brian goodcouins this organization wanting
Speaker 1: to maintain that commitment to him and keep him in
Speaker 1: the fold now with a defense, mind you, that has
Speaker 1: a lot of key pieces in place now for the
Speaker 1: next three, four or five seasons. Yeah, I'm really curious
Speaker 1: to see what the next step is going to be
Speaker 1: for Kenny Clark in the past rushing world, because he's
Speaker 1: had six sacks each of the last two years, which
Speaker 1: is a real solid number for an interior defensive lineman
Speaker 1: in this league. But here's the thing, West, you know
Speaker 1: this as well as I do. He's had a couple
Speaker 1: of different months in his career where he's had three
Speaker 1: and a half or four sacks just in the span
Speaker 1: of a month. So if a guy can do that
Speaker 1: from an interior D line position, then you wonder can
Speaker 1: he get double digit sacks a dozen sacks in a
Speaker 1: regular season like the guys on the outside are used
Speaker 1: to getting. And I'm I'm really curious to see if
Speaker 1: if Kenny Clark starts to h to push those sack
Speaker 1: numbers up as as he really comes into his own
Speaker 1: here in the NFL. Yeah, I'm with you on that,
Speaker 1: because the thing is, if you look at all those
Speaker 1: Next Gen stats and Pro Football Focus, i mean, they're
Speaker 1: talking about this guy's had I think it was something
Speaker 1: around fifty pressures last year. He was around the quarterback
Speaker 1: a lot. It's just so happens that well, he had
Speaker 1: two pretty decent outside linebackers chasing after that same quarterback. Yeah,
Speaker 1: those other guys were finishing off the edges and you know,
Speaker 1: and but Kenny Clark was definitely involved in a lot
Speaker 1: of that. But as Clark said, I mean, one of
Speaker 1: the things that he's talked with Mike Petton about and
Speaker 1: Matt Laflour is they want to probably move him around
Speaker 1: a little bit more this year, create more opportunities for him.
Speaker 1: The major question I have is when push comes to shove,
Speaker 1: when the regular season starts, you you're gonna have Kenny Clark,
Speaker 1: assuming he's healthy, for X amount of snaps. Do you
Speaker 1: want those snaps dedicated to help stopping the run where
Speaker 1: he can help you a lot, or getting some pressure
Speaker 1: on the quarterback where he also can help you a lot.
Speaker 1: That's where the Packers have to be cognizant of this
Speaker 1: because he's played over the snaps here the last couple
Speaker 1: of seasons when he's been on the field. That's a
Speaker 1: really tough number for a three fifteen pound body to fit. Fortunately,
Speaker 1: he's been young and productive and been able to do it.
Speaker 1: But it's going to be incumbent on those other defensive
Speaker 1: linemen in that room to help take some snaps out
Speaker 1: of him, because I really think that sweet spot is
Speaker 1: probably around se That's where you're gonna get the most
Speaker 1: out of a really well conditioned defensive tackle, but also
Speaker 1: still allow Kenny Clark to have the explosiveness that everyone
Speaker 1: really likes about his game. Yeah, well, you mentioned Rashan
Speaker 1: Gary earlier, and he's another guy who's uh, certainly making
Speaker 1: some noise here in the early portion of camp. You
Speaker 1: and I've been doing this for a while. West. You
Speaker 1: look at the first couple of practices, especially when you're
Speaker 1: into August here like we are, even though the pads
Speaker 1: are only going on for the first time later today.
Speaker 1: But when a guy is getting a lot of reps
Speaker 1: with a first unit, that's sort of that sends a
Speaker 1: signal that the coordinator, in this case, Mike Petton, the
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, he's definitely got plans for Rashawn Gary in
Speaker 1: this defense in because we have seen Gary on the
Speaker 1: field a lot with the number one defense, with both
Speaker 1: of the Smiths out there as well, all three of
Speaker 1: those guys officially listed as outside linebackers, but all taking
Speaker 1: the field together with the number one unit, And those
Speaker 1: are the kinds of things that, as I say, they
Speaker 1: send signals for what the defensive coordinator is has in
Speaker 1: mind for later down the road, and we just have
Speaker 1: to see what those plans are going to be as
Speaker 1: they unfold. Yeah, I think this has been the truest
Speaker 1: testament of the Packers trying to get their best eleving
Speaker 1: guys on the field. I think they feel like Rashan
Speaker 1: Gary is one of them and they need to find
Speaker 1: ways to create for him. Uh. The thing I keep
Speaker 1: telling people one the kids twenty one years old, he
Speaker 1: was twenty one years old. I know he's the twelfth
Speaker 1: overall pick. I know people are super excited about that selection,
Speaker 1: and you need to have some patience with them. I mean,
Speaker 1: much like I even made this thing in an insider inbox. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know Rashawn Garry's twenty two ZA Darius Smith didn't
Speaker 1: even take his first NFL snaps he was twenty three,
Speaker 1: and it was a few years after that where he
Speaker 1: really became a difference maker for Baltimore. This is a
Speaker 1: tough game. You need to be able to develop and
Speaker 1: you know, really find yourself as a pass rusher. Now
Speaker 1: that being said, I thought he checked all the boxes
Speaker 1: you wanted him to check. This offseason. You know, he
Speaker 1: looked to tone up his body a little bit more.
Speaker 1: As he said, he still is around that to seventies six.
Speaker 1: Market's not like he's had like this huge uh you know,
Speaker 1: you know, just he looked drastically different from last season.
Speaker 1: It's just as he was saying, you know, eating clean,
Speaker 1: a little bit more conditioning, you know, doing a little
Speaker 1: bit more of those high school drills of running bleachers
Speaker 1: and gas ers because of the restriction in place because
Speaker 1: of the quarantine. But also, Mike, it's a twenty one
Speaker 1: year old man going to a twenty two year old man,
Speaker 1: and then there's just certain maturation that goes along with that.
Speaker 1: But the one thing I think we're gonna learn this
Speaker 1: year is I think I think Rashawn Gary is gonna
Speaker 1: be more than just a dime rusher, which is what
Speaker 1: the role he predominantly played last season when the Smiths
Speaker 1: needed a breather and often was Kyler Facrol going in there.
Speaker 1: And I think Gary is going to be that guy
Speaker 1: this season that's going to be able to compliment them
Speaker 1: and then potentially even have some opportunities to be on
Speaker 1: the field with them together. But he's a part of
Speaker 1: that trio and the Packers. They last year was the
Speaker 1: emergence of the Smiths. I think this year the Packers
Speaker 1: want to be able to give more of those opportunities
Speaker 1: to Gary as well. Yeah, and one stad to throw
Speaker 1: out there about Gary too. Yes, he only had two
Speaker 1: sacks as a rookie, but this is the stat west.
Speaker 1: He had nineteen quarterback pressures in approximately two d forty
Speaker 1: defensive snaps. That's that's actually pretty good production for limited
Speaker 1: playing time, and I think I think the Packers are
Speaker 1: are looking for him to build on that. Okay, one
Speaker 1: last thing before we go. A very interesting development on Monday.
Speaker 1: In Monday's practice, the first interception of training camp in
Speaker 1: the eleven on eleven work was turned in by none
Speaker 1: other than the new guy on defense, Christian Kirksey at
Speaker 1: inside linebacker. He took a deep zone drop and picked
Speaker 1: off and Aaron Rodgers past that was intended for Davante Adams.
Speaker 1: Just kind of neat that the it was the new
Speaker 1: guy on defense that that you know, got the old
Speaker 1: man at quarterback so to speak. Yeah, And it was
Speaker 1: off a zone drop into coverage. He was probably about
Speaker 1: fifteen yards deep and they were trying to hit Davante
Speaker 1: Adams on a crosser. Just a really good job of
Speaker 1: recognizing what was in front of him and reacting to it.
Speaker 1: We didn't get a chance to talk to Kirksy after
Speaker 1: this practice. We actually talked to him after Saturday's practice.
Speaker 1: But you gotta imagine that that was a feel good
Speaker 1: moment for him. This is a guy that again, mind you,
Speaker 1: he's only played in nine games the last two seasons. Uh.
Speaker 1: The fact that he's just in there calling this defense
Speaker 1: right now. You see when the plays gets re relayed
Speaker 1: from Mike Petton from the sideline. Uh, Kirksy is already
Speaker 1: the general. He's already stepping into that role and they
Speaker 1: need him to step into that role. He's the only
Speaker 1: proven commodity that they have at this time at inside linebacker.
Speaker 1: But he even said it's been a long journey for him.
Speaker 1: It's been a long road back and then obviously having
Speaker 1: to wait through this quarantine to be able to get
Speaker 1: into Green Bay and start to meet these guys in person. Uh,
Speaker 1: that that had been a big moment for him, and
Speaker 1: it did you a lot of good moments for the
Speaker 1: defense so far. I thought, Vernon Davis, excuse me, Vernon Davis,
Speaker 1: Vernon Scott. Vernon Davis was not at practice on Monday.
Speaker 1: Vernon Scott was the rookie seventh round pick out a TCU.
Speaker 1: He had a couple of past deflections. I thought you've
Speaker 1: seen some really nice play recognition so far from you know,
Speaker 1: some of those defensive backs trying to make a run
Speaker 1: for a roster spot. In addition to Zadarius Smith and
Speaker 1: Preston Smith, they were saying after Saturday's practice they felt
Speaker 1: like the defense set the tone and they wanted to
Speaker 1: keep it that way. So watching this battle between especially
Speaker 1: now that we're gonna see more ones verse ones in
Speaker 1: these eleven and eleven periods, Uh, these battles are gonna
Speaker 1: be terrific to watch, and I think you're really going
Speaker 1: to get a good sense for where both of these
Speaker 1: sides of the field are. Well. One last thing on
Speaker 1: Kirksey before we go, and you mentioned kind of his
Speaker 1: long road to these last couple of years, dealing with
Speaker 1: a lot of injuries and everything. He just looks and
Speaker 1: sounds like a guy who's having a blast being back
Speaker 1: on the football field and being the guy in command
Speaker 1: of the defensive huddle and running things. And obviously he
Speaker 1: knows pett and system from earlier in his career. Just
Speaker 1: a veteran guy who really seems to have rediscovered the
Speaker 1: joy of the game that he loves and it's fun
Speaker 1: to watch. Yeah, and I gotta mention too. I want
Speaker 1: to get your thought on this. Uh. And Broyke Martinez
Speaker 1: is terrific and I wish him well with the Giants.
Speaker 1: It's not this is not has nothing to do with Blake,
Speaker 1: but considering Blake is gone and seeing Kirksey for the
Speaker 1: first time, I mean, since fans are not able to
Speaker 1: watch this right now, I just need to say. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is a guy that looks like a three down
Speaker 1: inside linebacker. He just he has a certain presence about him.
Speaker 1: I think you look at his physique and the way
Speaker 1: that he carries his weight very evenly. I I just
Speaker 1: I think when you see a guy like Christian Kirksey,
Speaker 1: when fans finally get a chance to actually see him
Speaker 1: on the field, Uh, and not just a couple of
Speaker 1: photos here and there are a couple, you know, two
Speaker 1: second videos. Uh, this guy is gonna impress you just
Speaker 1: based on the way that you know he brings He's
Speaker 1: exactly what you think think that position should look like
Speaker 1: in in this time and age. Yeah, I would absolutely
Speaker 1: agree with you. But with that we do have to go.
Speaker 1: So thank you for tuning in everybody for West I
Speaker 1: am Mike. We will be back again later this week.
Speaker 1: To talk more Packers Training Camp West. We're talking about practice.
Speaker 1: Does it feel good? Mike feels as it feels awesome.
Speaker 1: Thanks again for tuning in, everybody, We'll see you next time.