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Speaker 1: Welcome to the battle Ground Podcast and exclusive interviews with

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Speaker 1: some of your favorite wrestlers.

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Speaker 2: Got what's going on, guys? It is battle and today

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Speaker 2: is an exciting day here on the show because we

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Speaker 2: got a guy that has been on our radar for

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Speaker 2: a very very long time and he's gone viral with

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Speaker 2: his memes that everybody likes to share when certain things happen.

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Speaker 2: Let's give it up everybody for the TNA World Heavyweight Champion,

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Speaker 2: Nicknameathi is here with us.

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Speaker 3: Nick.

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Speaker 2: How are you doing, sir?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing great. I I forgot about all the memes

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Speaker 4: about me.

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Speaker 3: And it should have been me usually, so it's it's

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Speaker 3: sometimes it's other stuff, but it's usually something Rhea is doing,

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Speaker 3: and then everyone goes, it should have been me, and

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Speaker 3: I get it, Yes.

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Speaker 2: And I want to know because I mean, at the time,

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Speaker 2: you didn't think anything that that was going to happen.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever think that, you know now looking back

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Speaker 2: on it, that that would have been a pivotal moment

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Speaker 2: that a lot of people still talk about that moment,

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Speaker 2: whether it be for that promo or for the meme itself.

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Speaker 4: You know, I did not at all.

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Speaker 3: I was just trying to find something else that would

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Speaker 3: stand out instead of just me being like I've been

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Speaker 3: here for eighteen years, let me fight you again, like

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Speaker 3: we needed something better, something, There's some reason there's some

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Speaker 3: genuine hatred toward Kofi Kingston, which is practically impossible, by

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Speaker 3: the way, he's the last baby face in the world

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Speaker 3: that's still full time and never went the other way,

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Speaker 3: so it's impossible to get something dirt on him. But

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Speaker 3: to have some maniacal change in my brain that everyone

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Speaker 3: is celebrating the guy that I'm better than and then

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Speaker 3: drove me insane that it and it always should have

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Speaker 3: been me getting everything in that manium moment Koffee Mania.

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Speaker 3: Oh it burned me up inside watching him get that

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Speaker 3: opportunity while I was sitting on the bench. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: that perfectly worked out storyline wise, But I did not

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Speaker 3: see it coming that. Anytime rehab pined somebody that's people

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Speaker 3: would be throwing that meme in there.

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Speaker 2: But hey, I'm on so great because it's like every

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Speaker 2: other thing when you scroll through, it's that meme. But

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Speaker 2: I we're here to talk about some fun stuff. Speaking

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Speaker 2: of fun, you've got to defend that TNA World Championship

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Speaker 2: match against Josh and a one hour iron Man match

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Speaker 2: at TNA Emergence Live Friday, August thirtieth on TNA Plus.

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Speaker 2: How do you, I guess, prepare mentally and physically for

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Speaker 2: this kind of a match, and also somebody like Josh Alexander.

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Speaker 3: Uh, that's a great point. It's gonna I don't know

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Speaker 3: if it sounds cliche or dumb. I prepare that way

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Speaker 3: the same way I would go, hey, you have you

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Speaker 3: have a match with a local guy on Monday, and

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Speaker 3: you go, okay, great. What I do is I don't

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Speaker 3: take vacations. I don't have an off season. I don't

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Speaker 3: taper off my workouts. I work out seven days a week,

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Speaker 3: and if I miss a day because of flights or

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Speaker 3: the next time. So I don't miss workouts, I don't

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Speaker 3: miss training. I don't miss any opportunity to somehow make

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Speaker 3: myself better. And who knows how this window is gonna end.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I'm done wrestling at forty six, Maybe I wrestle

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Speaker 3: till I'm sixty. You don't know what that window is,

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Speaker 3: but to make it a realistic world champion. I got

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Speaker 3: a few years left to prove that I can do that.

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Speaker 3: So I always want to be in the absolute best

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Speaker 3: I legitimately still have it because there were people that

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Speaker 3: because I don't get tired, because I feel like the

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Speaker 3: because these are his matches. I know his go tos,

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Speaker 3: know he has this tendency to step backwards instead of forwards,

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Speaker 3: because you have to have that ring IQ two and

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Speaker 3: damn it, you better believe Josh does.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And like you said, I mean, he's been

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Speaker 4: We've all seen the tape on him with that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we saw an incredible one with him and

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you've probably studied that match as well. But

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Speaker 2: there's been a lot of buzz about the resurgence of

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Speaker 2: TNA lately with of course, you know, TNA working with

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Speaker 3: All, that buzz was there before working with other companies,

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Speaker 3: But yeah, that's that's a huge part of it right now.

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Speaker 3: And Joe Henry getting WWE their most liked videos is

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Speaker 4: Uh so.

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Speaker 3: But the really cool thing is, I've said this fifteen times.

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Speaker 3: In a world where every roster on every company is

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Speaker 3: same goal, all going above and beyond to help the brand.

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Speaker 3: No one is being selfish and saying I need to

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Speaker 3: the rebrand where everyone's on the same page behind the scenes, Tommy, Gail, Ariel,

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Speaker 3: goal get one percent bigger audience every single week. Becose

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Speaker 3: huzz of the work we put in, because of the

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Speaker 3: offer to the fans who come live or watch on

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Speaker 3: When you see it.

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Speaker 4: You go, damn, that's a great show.

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Speaker 3: Because you can complain like this show has twenty minutes

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Speaker 3: we try to find that perfect balance of storyline, behind

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Speaker 3: It makes me smile seeing how awesome our roster is. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And you can definitely tell watching the product how

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Speaker 2: And I want to know, from your thought perspective, being

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Speaker 3: I mean, do you have a few? Because what really

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Speaker 3: And I got there and was blown away at what

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Speaker 4: So I love that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Joe Henry's doing stuff all over the world

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Speaker 3: I feel like that would be a huge moment for teenages.

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Speaker 3: And things like that are really cool. ABC I wrestled

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Speaker 2: I can actually tell you recent guests of the show,

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Speaker 2: Mike Santana had a lot came to you and your

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Speaker 3: The way, but he said that there's thirty guys in

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Speaker 3: not to say that that's not true, it's very true.

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Speaker 4: We interviewed him.

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Speaker 3: On Busted Open, on Serious XM, and man, he got

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Speaker 3: into like some changes he made in his life, his family,

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Speaker 3: you not rooting for this guy. He came back to

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Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And I think that that's gonna be a

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Speaker 4: And the big deal with Josh Alexander.

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Speaker 3: It's an iron man match with a guy who's thing

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Speaker 3: twenty years.

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Speaker 3: So many guys that I love Bill Murray, Dangerfield freaking awesome.

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