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Speaker 1: Stamp as we sit here and watch Baker Mayfield and
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Destroyedles on Sunday. That makes for
Speaker 1: a victory Monday. Here inside the SWBC podcast studio, Bill
Speaker 1: Jones with Mickey Spagnola, Everson Walls has already called in.
Speaker 1: In fact, he called in on Friday. I think, yes,
Speaker 1: I think he's sick for Monday. Not sick, but he's
Speaker 1: got other things he has to do today. We're hoping natean.
Speaker 3: Frisco comes are running here in just a second.
Speaker 4: But in the meantime, I bet we can find enough
Speaker 4: to talk about.
Speaker 1: It's a victory Monday because the Eagles lost. Although we
Speaker 1: now need to turn our attention a little bit towards
Speaker 1: the commanders as well, in that nfcas too are sitting
Speaker 1: all alone atop the division right now, just the way
Speaker 1: you projected, exactly right and Jayden Daniels is on an
Speaker 1: MVP pat not a Rookie of the Year path, but
Speaker 1: an MVP path right now. And there's breaking news even
Speaker 1: after we signed off on Friday, although we suspected it
Speaker 1: would happen. From on the injury front with the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: there's injury news as far as this week's opponent, the
Speaker 1: Steelers are concerned, who are no longer unbeaten because of
Speaker 1: what the Indianapolis Colts did to them today they are
Speaker 1: is so much to get to on a reset Monday
Speaker 1: after a mini by weekend.
Speaker 5: So is this like a seventy two hour rule now
Speaker 5: something like that? We played the song after hours after Thursday,
Speaker 5: and we did play it on Friday, right right, So
Speaker 5: that's right now we reset for the week, and there's
Speaker 5: a lot of resetting to do. Is this is a
Speaker 5: workday here at the Star in Frisco for the Cowboys
Speaker 5: players and coaches. Well, they have paid a high price
Speaker 5: for that victory on Thursday, with the two injuries that
Speaker 5: we knew they suffered to Michaeh. Parsons and DeMarcus Lawrence,
Speaker 5: and I think over the weekend brought some clarity on
Speaker 5: just what those injuries are, and it looks like the
Speaker 5: Cowboys defensive end positions gonna get depleted for at least
Speaker 5: one to two weeks, if not more. And that's the
Speaker 5: last thing they needed to have happened.
Speaker 4: MICHAEH.
Speaker 5: Parsons with a high ankle sprain and those things you
Speaker 5: know that. I think Stephen Jones on Friday called it
Speaker 5: week to week, and they hadn't given up for this week.
Speaker 5: But if it is indeed a high ankle sprain, depending
Speaker 5: on the severity, I would imagine at least one week,
Speaker 5: if not too knowing the history of high ankle sprains,
Speaker 5: And then from DeMarcus Lawrence, it was initially a mid
Speaker 5: foot spraying, and I think as reports have come out,
Speaker 5: it's a Lists Frank injury with the chance that he
Speaker 5: would miss four to eight weeks. And normally on those
Speaker 5: bill I think from history tells us the end part
Speaker 5: is usually the high, not the low. So if the
Speaker 5: Cowboys indeed end up putting him on injured reserve, that's
Speaker 5: at least four weeks that you would have to miss,
Speaker 5: and it's a pretty painful injury.
Speaker 1: So those are two words you do not want to hear.
Speaker 1: Liz Frank, Yes, do you know who that's name is. No,
Speaker 1: I do not, but I'm about to find out. I've
Speaker 1: got some his searches done. Here Doctor Jacques Liss Frank D. S.
Speaker 1: Martine sounds like a Frenchman, was.
Speaker 4: A French doctor.
Speaker 5: And during the Nopoly Napoleonic wards, okay, the cavalry guys
Speaker 5: were suffering this injury, and he discovered it was a
Speaker 5: high foot sprain to the bones on the top of
Speaker 5: your foot that was caused to the soldiers that were
Speaker 5: in the cavalry for their foots being in the horse stir.
Speaker 4: And the pressure hanging on.
Speaker 1: I thought they had some It was only affecting those
Speaker 1: who were rushing the quarterback. Well, they weren't rushing the
Speaker 1: quarterback then, they were rushing the enemy and trying to
Speaker 1: stay up on their horses, and they kept fracturing bones
Speaker 1: on the top of their foot.
Speaker 5: So he discovered this. So they named the injury after.
Speaker 1: Him, so the list Frank. So the injury is the
Speaker 1: top of the foot exactly. Okay, even though we're taping
Speaker 1: the bottom of the foot.
Speaker 5: Now that's for the other injury that you tear at
Speaker 5: the bottom of your foot, right, But on.
Speaker 1: This side they were taping the bottom of the probably
Speaker 1: wrapping up. It appeared the way at his foot there
Speaker 1: it looked like, okay, that looks like an arch problem.
Speaker 1: But it was the top of the foot instead of
Speaker 1: Liz Frank, that's what the injury.
Speaker 3: That was a Liz Frank. What did Jordan Lewis have?
Speaker 4: Similar?
Speaker 5: But he had a surgically repaired broken or fractured bones
Speaker 5: and so they.
Speaker 3: Had to do so try to remember was that a
Speaker 3: list Frank?
Speaker 5: Yeah, well it was like the most severe because not
Speaker 5: only I think if I remember correctly, did he have
Speaker 5: fractured bones, he also had some torn ligaments uh in
Speaker 5: there also, so uh it doesn't sound like they're doing
Speaker 5: surgery on tank.
Speaker 4: So that's a good thing.
Speaker 5: But again, you know four weeks that takes you, what
Speaker 5: up until the San Francisco game. You got Pittsburgh this week,
Speaker 5: Detroit the bye, and then another week before you play
Speaker 5: San Francisco, and that would be the least amount of time.
Speaker 4: It looks like he'd be out.
Speaker 1: If it's taken eight weeks and you're taking it to
Speaker 1: thanks Thanksgiving, right, I mean, because you look at the
Speaker 1: schedule for the Cowboys. Now we've been talking about the
Speaker 1: next six games well, we need to include the next
Speaker 1: seven games now because Washington is that seventh game. Yes,
Speaker 1: where you've got at Pittsburgh this week, at home against
Speaker 1: Detroit the bye week, and then at San Francisco, at Atlanta,
Speaker 1: home against Philadelphia, home against.
Speaker 3: Houston at Washington.
Speaker 1: Yes, I do have it memorized because it is the
Speaker 1: most perilous stretch of the season for this team, and
Speaker 1: they're hitting.
Speaker 5: It right now, especially with the Commander sitting there now
Speaker 5: at three and one after losing their opener. They've won
Speaker 5: three straight this past Sunday, beating the Cardinals forty two fourteen,
Speaker 5: and they've scored all already on twenty three drives.
Speaker 4: They went.
Speaker 5: Six of seven of seven when they beat the Giants,
Speaker 5: they went six of six when they beat Cincinnati, and
Speaker 5: seven of nine possessions they scored against the Cardinals. So
Speaker 5: they're scoring at least a field goal, if not a
Speaker 5: touchdown on all these drives over the first part of
Speaker 5: the season. On top of the rookie quarterback Jaden Daniels
Speaker 5: completing eighty two point one percent of his passes, highest
Speaker 5: ever for a quarterback in the first four games of
Speaker 5: a season, not first four for a rookie first for.
Speaker 4: Anybody for a season.
Speaker 5: So you know, these last three games, they've scored on
Speaker 5: twenty of twenty two full possessions. And I guess that's
Speaker 5: why dan Quinn decided to give Cliff Kingsbury the game
Speaker 5: ball on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Well, and they're back in Arizona, yes, and so had a.
Speaker 4: Little bit to do with both guys, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Cliff Kingsbury Bowl.
Speaker 1: And you know, but this NFL is so crazy, and
Speaker 1: it's a week to week proposition because all those numbers
Speaker 1: you're talking about with Jaden Daniels and he's doing great.
Speaker 1: We were saying the same things two weeks ago about
Speaker 1: Derek Carr and the New Orleans Saints, right, and they've
Speaker 1: turned around and they've lost two straight games, and against this
Speaker 1: Philadelphia team, the Baker Mayfield lit up yesterday. He couldn't
Speaker 1: do anything against them the week after he tore up
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. And by the way, which brings us to
Speaker 1: the Sunday night game this week Buffalo.
Speaker 3: Going into the weekend, the so called.
Speaker 1: Experts across the country were saying that Buffalo has the
Speaker 1: best team in the league, the most high powered offense
Speaker 1: in the league, and Baltimore was and the Dallas defense
Speaker 1: was just horrendous, and they were with night straight games
Speaker 1: of giving up so many yards rushing and Dallas turns
Speaker 1: it around against uh far inferior your Giants team in
Speaker 1: terms of running the football compared to the Ravens, but
Speaker 1: twenty four carries for twenty six yards. But back to Buffalo,
Speaker 1: they got thet they're the hottest team in the league.
Speaker 1: They go into Baltimore and they're basically trailing in the
Speaker 1: second quarter by as much as the Cowboys were against
Speaker 1: the Ravens.
Speaker 5: Too, and ended up giving giving up the exact same
Speaker 5: amount of rushing yards.
Speaker 4: Believe it that it was.
Speaker 1: Seventy four and Derrick Henry was at one ninety nine
Speaker 1: and they were trying their hardest to get him a
Speaker 1: two hundred yard game and to no avail, but they
Speaker 1: wind up losing thirty five to ten.
Speaker 5: And gave up an eighty nine yard touchdown run eighty
Speaker 5: seven eighty seven. Excuse me to a guy that's too
Speaker 5: about two forty.
Speaker 3: I don't know too, he's much more.
Speaker 1: He came into the league at two fifty, but he's
Speaker 1: also runs twenty two miles an hour, and he was
Speaker 1: running away from those DB's.
Speaker 3: That was the amazing party. They weren't catching up, by
Speaker 3: the way.
Speaker 1: I don't know this for sure, but that is the
Speaker 1: longest run in Raven's history. And I believe tied for
Speaker 1: second was the Lron McLain eighty two yarder in the
Speaker 1: final game at.
Speaker 3: Texas I think with Jamal Lewis.
Speaker 1: And in the top five was also Willis mcgahe's seventy
Speaker 1: seven yarder in that same game against the Cowboys in
Speaker 1: the last four minutes of that last game ever played
Speaker 1: at Texas Stadium. But I mean, Derrick Henry is just
Speaker 1: a freak of nature. And they talked about it in
Speaker 1: the Ravens Cowboys game, the diet that he is on
Speaker 1: and how well he is taking care of his body,
Speaker 1: and it shows.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, And just to remind every says, well, why did
Speaker 5: the Cowboys sign him? Well, he signed a two year,
Speaker 5: sixteen million dollar deal with Baltimore nine million dollars guaranteed
Speaker 5: and the big cap hit is next year. The second year,
Speaker 5: I think it's ends up being eleven million. It's five
Speaker 5: million this year, so.
Speaker 3: It was I believe nine million guaranteed.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So the Cowboys were, you know, knowing there what
Speaker 5: they were going to have to do with Dak what
Speaker 5: they were going to have to do with Ceedee Lamb,
Speaker 5: and knowing that Micah was coming up, they were very
Speaker 5: hesitant to spend that much money on a twenty nine
Speaker 5: year old running back going on thirty. But maybe he's
Speaker 5: got the secret sauce because he doesn't seem like he's
Speaker 5: slowing down.
Speaker 1: Okay, so back to the lead story with the Cowboys
Speaker 1: as they're back here after their long weekend and what
Speaker 1: to do about the edge rusher situation?
Speaker 3: Well, what to do about him? By the way, uh,
Speaker 3: locker room Joe, twelve forty five. Yes, you want to
Speaker 3: break early right to get in there at least.
Speaker 4: By twelve forty five.
Speaker 3: Maybe we will take our extra five into the locker room.
Speaker 1: And then McCarthy is at three point thirty coordinators coordinators
Speaker 1: after that, which will be our first time in a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks to talk to the coordinators because of
Speaker 1: the short week last week.
Speaker 4: Right, so they're gonna.
Speaker 5: It.
Speaker 3: I mean, who are the names that popped mind?
Speaker 4: Marshawn?
Speaker 5: Start with Kneelan, your second round draft choice. I'm sure
Speaker 5: he's starting at one of the defensive end spots.
Speaker 1: And when they drafted Marshawn Neelan the way I looked
Speaker 1: at that, he is the heir apparent to DeMarcus Lawrence right.
Speaker 3: Over the next several years.
Speaker 4: And he's playing.
Speaker 3: That would be next year before he would.
Speaker 4: Be the start.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but he has played the most snaps of any
Speaker 5: of the guys we're getting ready to talk about. He's
Speaker 5: had one hundred and eight snaps so far. He's got
Speaker 5: nine tackles. I believe that's right. A couple let's see
Speaker 5: five quarterback hits, a tackle for a loss in this
Speaker 5: last game.
Speaker 4: And so.
Speaker 3: And he had thirty six snaps.
Speaker 1: In this past game, which part of that is because
Speaker 1: Lawrence went out, so that increased his snaps at the
Speaker 1: end of the game. But he also had forty four
Speaker 1: snaps in the season opener at Cleveland. In between just
Speaker 1: eighteen against the Saints and ten against Baltimore.
Speaker 5: So he's immediately a starter. And if you remember, he
Speaker 5: was one of the stories in training camp on how
Speaker 5: well he played.
Speaker 4: As a rookie.
Speaker 5: And then after that, well, here are the names. Carl Lawson.
Speaker 1: He's the next guy that came to mind from me
Speaker 1: that they need Carl Lawson to step up, right with
Speaker 1: the absence of Mike. I look at Nielan as quote
Speaker 1: unquote the next man up, Roy Lawrence Lawson, the next
Speaker 1: man up for Parsons.
Speaker 5: And Lawson has is on the practice squad. Still technically
Speaker 5: we're assuming that Lawrence is going on injured reserve, which
Speaker 5: that means he's out at least four weeks. Lawson has
Speaker 5: been elevated the last two games off the practice squad,
Speaker 5: so he's got one elevation left, and I would imagine
Speaker 5: they will judge his performance if indeed they put him
Speaker 5: on the fifty three man roster after this Pittsburgh game.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I don't know Lawson had twenty
Speaker 1: two snaps in the game on Thursday against the Giants.
Speaker 1: I was looking at Carlos Watkins, who had carl Lawson
Speaker 1: had twenty taps.
Speaker 5: So in these two activations he's got thirty snaps.
Speaker 4: Now here's the him.
Speaker 5: You know, he first came here and initially they didn't
Speaker 5: like what they saw or heard and they let him go.
Speaker 5: And then when they had the injury to Sam Williams,
Speaker 5: which is another guy at that position, so your top
Speaker 5: three defensive ends going into the season are now no
Speaker 5: longer available for several weeks. It looks like then they
Speaker 5: brought laws and back put him on the practice squad
Speaker 5: where he remained to get ready since he hadn't been
Speaker 5: with anybody in training camp, and then he's been called
Speaker 5: up these last two games. But if you look at
Speaker 5: his history, and it's kind of weird because last year
Speaker 5: when he signed a contract, well in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 5: he signed with the Jets, he played seventeen games and
Speaker 5: had seven sacks. Last year, he only played six games
Speaker 5: with the Jets and only had five tackles, and they
Speaker 5: released him and nobody touched him during the offseason until
Speaker 5: the Cowboys signed him to the practice squad. So they
Speaker 5: desperately need twenty twenty two version of Carl Lawson because
Speaker 5: at least he's played in the league. Right after that,
Speaker 5: it's Chauncey Golston who's been kind of a career backup.
Speaker 5: And Chauncey started training camp off as a defensive tackle.
Speaker 5: They had moved him inside and now they've moved him
Speaker 5: back to defensive end. He had twenty five snaps in
Speaker 5: the game, and so we'll see just how much he
Speaker 5: can do. So between those three guys, that's sort of
Speaker 5: what they have bill at defensive end.
Speaker 1: I think you're looking at practice squads around the league, yes,
Speaker 1: and looking to poach somebody.
Speaker 3: We can't get into names.
Speaker 1: I've got someone in mind myself, but I'm not going
Speaker 1: to say it on the air because we are able
Speaker 1: to talk about other players. Write down here for a secret.
Speaker 1: I will let you know, and I will let you
Speaker 1: know if it doesn't happen. Who who I had in mind?
Speaker 5: Because they don't have any other defensive ends on their
Speaker 5: own practice squad. Some I heard somebody suggest that they
Speaker 5: could move like a defensive tackle.
Speaker 3: You know, you know Tyros Wheat who has been games.
Speaker 3: I got to mention it. It was inactive for the
Speaker 3: game of the day. But he is he's another guy.
Speaker 4: That will He's a body and he's not He's.
Speaker 1: A second year guy. They've had here, you know now
Speaker 1: for you know, in his second year to where he's
Speaker 1: gonna he falls into that next man up category.
Speaker 4: He's active.
Speaker 5: He was active the first two games and then inactive
Speaker 5: game day. He's got thirteen snaps so far this season,
Speaker 5: two tackles. So yeah, that's the other name. From a
Speaker 5: depth standpoint, Uh, you know you you kind of got
Speaker 5: to I mean, it's like you've got to keep at
Speaker 5: least those four guys active for the game at this point.
Speaker 4: But again, it's just the same.
Speaker 1: And even if Parsons is able to go against Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: or gives it a shot against.
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh, you have to be.
Speaker 1: Fortified with depth there because you don't know once he
Speaker 1: gets out there and really pushes.
Speaker 3: It, what what he's able to do.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you would need losson and uh, we active
Speaker 5: for sure.
Speaker 1: And but you did mention Chauncey Goldston as a guy
Speaker 1: who's going to really get increased opportunities here too, all
Speaker 1: those guys on the on the defensive line, and and
Speaker 1: by the way, when you look at how the defensive
Speaker 1: line played against the Giants, and in particular the way
Speaker 1: Mozzie Smith played against the Giants, that was a real
Speaker 1: sign of encouragement for this team going forward. If Mazzy
Speaker 1: can continue to play like he did against.
Speaker 5: The Giants, right, And I think Lynnville Joseph played better
Speaker 5: in that game. And again, these are guys that just
Speaker 5: weren't especially him, They wasn't in training camp.
Speaker 4: You know, no one had signed them.
Speaker 5: So the Cowboys, you know, we're doing their best to
Speaker 5: fortify that position. But it was with guys basically coming
Speaker 5: off their couch. So that's kind of the you know,
Speaker 5: as if you don't have enough problems, this added to
Speaker 5: it for paying a high price to win that game
Speaker 5: against the Giants.
Speaker 1: Okay, Steelers are having problems of their own coming off
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Speaker 1: All Right, it's going to be an interesting week. Is
Speaker 1: the Cowboys play the Steelers this week? And we talk
Speaker 1: about the Cowboys' injury concerns. Well, in Pittsburgh, they've got
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of injury concerns themselves, and especially on
Speaker 1: their offensive line where word comes this morning James Daniels,
Speaker 1: offensive guard out for the year torn achilles.
Speaker 4: Toarnicchilles yesterday's game.
Speaker 1: They already were missing Isaac Salmalo, who was projected to
Speaker 1: miss a month with a strained peck. So they've got
Speaker 1: two backups that will be projected to start an offensive
Speaker 1: guard for them against.
Speaker 4: One of them.
Speaker 5: I think I saw was a rookie draft choice fourth round.
Speaker 5: I think it was their fourth round pick, and they
Speaker 5: had a seventh round pick also that they were and
Speaker 5: they had already lost their center, Nate Herbig with a
Speaker 5: torn rate rotator cuff.
Speaker 3: He's out for the year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so everybody's got problems.
Speaker 1: Now. They do have Zach Frasier, who's the second round
Speaker 1: draft pick starting center for them out of West Virginia.
Speaker 3: A lot of people liked him and.
Speaker 1: Projected him perhaps to the Cowboys in the draft in
Speaker 1: the if they had taken the center in the second
Speaker 1: round of the draft, although he went before the Cowboys
Speaker 1: picked in the second round. But yeah, I mean, every
Speaker 1: team's got issues. And the guard that you're talking about
Speaker 1: is Mason McCormick, who has been starting for them with
Speaker 1: sal Malow out. Actually he got twenty five snaps last
Speaker 1: week and then out of South Dakota State. He was
Speaker 1: a fourth round draft pick. And Spencer Anderson is the
Speaker 1: seventh round draft pick from last year who actually started
Speaker 1: the first two games of the year, so he was
Speaker 1: the guy that was filling in for sal Malo.
Speaker 5: So Salamlo comes back, then McCormick could play the Daniel's position, then.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, or actually maybe that Spencer Anderson would be
Speaker 1: the yeah yeah, But anyway, regardless, they've got issues and
Speaker 1: how they do rushing the football. Yesterday, well, Najie Harris
Speaker 1: had thirteen carries for nineteen yards against Indianapolis.
Speaker 3: Now he did have three catches for fifty four yards.
Speaker 1: Right, they fell behind seventeen nothing to the Colts and
Speaker 1: then they came back. Justin Fields has actually been playing
Speaker 1: pretty well for them. And of course Russell Wilson, who
Speaker 1: was the guy that was projected to be their starting
Speaker 1: quarterback after coming over after being with the Broncos, and
Speaker 1: they've got him on a veteran minimum deal because Broncos
Speaker 1: are still paying his big bucks. But Wilson's been out
Speaker 1: and so Field says it's been Field's job from the first.
Speaker 3: Game this season, and he's actually very well rushier. You
Speaker 3: know what.
Speaker 1: He has if I can read my writing.
Speaker 4: Here as the leading rusher of this past game.
Speaker 3: Ten carrier.
Speaker 1: Let's see against Indy he had ten carries for fifty
Speaker 1: five yards yesterday, two touchdowns, sacked four times, and passed
Speaker 1: for three hundred and twelve yards. Wow, yep, twenty two
Speaker 1: out of thirty four with a touchdown, no picks. That's
Speaker 1: the big thing is he hasn't been turning the football.
Speaker 4: So I wonder do they stay with.
Speaker 3: Them when Wilson is ready?
Speaker 1: Well, they were staying with him as they were winning games,
Speaker 1: and they were three and zero before yesterday. Now they
Speaker 1: lost a game, but he played well in the game,
Speaker 1: and so I meant had a chance to go back
Speaker 1: and watch the game to see exactly if the but
Speaker 1: look at the stats, he played well yesterday. So I
Speaker 1: fully anticipate that fields should be starting for them this week.
Speaker 5: They've beaten Atlanta, Denver and the Chargers and then they
Speaker 5: lose to Indy with Joe Flacco's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so they probably had a better chance with
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco. I mean at a worse chance with Joe
Speaker 1: Flacco quarterback in the Colts.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so boy Richardson just can't stay healthy.
Speaker 3: Yep, that's right.
Speaker 4: Well he better quit run it.
Speaker 5: He's not built like these other quarterbacks that are running
Speaker 5: the ball like Hurtz by the way, Who's going to
Speaker 5: put himself in some trouble if they keep running him
Speaker 5: as much?
Speaker 1: So how did you spend your Sunday? Did you watch
Speaker 1: these games?
Speaker 4: I watched the noon game?
Speaker 1: And then which which noon game? Did you watch both
Speaker 1: of them?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 5: Eagles Tampa Bay and the Minnesota's playing Green Minnesota?
Speaker 1: And I think that's that's the games we got over
Speaker 1: the air here, and.
Speaker 5: I think did both games get off to like twenty
Speaker 5: eight to nothing starts?
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right yep, and Tampa Bay kind of stayed
Speaker 1: that way, but the Packers came back.
Speaker 5: On the Vikings, yeah, and made it close. And then
Speaker 5: I monitored the first part of the night game and
Speaker 5: watched the.
Speaker 4: Rest of it.
Speaker 3: Did you watch the Kansas City game?
Speaker 5: I was only monitoring I think highlights of that one.
Speaker 1: Okay, So we're talking about the run game with the
Speaker 1: Cowboys and so forth, and with just in general, you
Speaker 1: look around the league, you would see what Baltimore's doing
Speaker 1: running the football.
Speaker 3: Of course, they're built that way.
Speaker 1: But even the Kansas City Chiefs when it came down
Speaker 1: it's a ten game in the fourth quarter and just
Speaker 1: underscores the even with Patrick Mahomes at quarterback. For you. Now,
Speaker 1: they lost their leading receiver Roushi Rice to what appears
Speaker 1: to be a season ending eight ACL injury, and he
Speaker 1: had been going off for them the first couple of
Speaker 1: last couple of games. They had to run the football.
Speaker 1: They wore down the Chargers, who were missing Joey Bosa
Speaker 1: and Derwin James on defense, but it was there and
Speaker 1: they're depleted at running back. They've got Kareem Hunt running
Speaker 1: the football because they've lost but check go had Kareem
Speaker 1: Hunt primarily and then some I JP Ryan got the
Speaker 1: go ahead touchdown. But they had one drive where they
Speaker 1: started deeping their own to the field and by running
Speaker 1: the football an occasional passy. It was a fifty yard
Speaker 1: drive or whatever, and then they were to flip the
Speaker 1: field on the Chargers.
Speaker 3: And then the next.
Speaker 1: Drive basically same stuff where they were able to punch
Speaker 1: it in for the go ahead score and then they
Speaker 1: had to finish them off at the end but your
Speaker 1: ability to be able to run the football to win
Speaker 1: football games is something that I don't know if the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are ever going to get there with what they're
Speaker 1: got in the run game right now, what they've got
Speaker 1: on the offensive line, but it's necessary to win these
Speaker 1: close games. In Kansas City was a great proof of
Speaker 1: it yesterday, even with the best quarterback in the game.
Speaker 5: And I'm glad you mentioned the offensive line because when
Speaker 5: I see, and I continue to say this week to
Speaker 5: week when I watch these other games, these running backs
Speaker 5: have got huge holes to run through and I just
Speaker 5: don't see that that often with this Cowboys running game.
Speaker 5: And I don't know if how that they're designed the
Speaker 5: blocks or how the plays are scripted, but I just
Speaker 5: don't see that many open spaces.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 5: It was better against the Giants. I thought rico'dodell I
Speaker 5: had a couple carries there that were there was room
Speaker 5: to run. But for the most part, it's it's just
Speaker 5: not there. Uh and and and it's not all on
Speaker 5: the two rookies that are that are starting guiding Cooper Bebee.
Speaker 5: I think it was across the the board. They're just
Speaker 5: not run blocking that well. To give those guys an opportunity.
Speaker 1: Let me give you an idea on this Chiefs game.
Speaker 1: I've got their play by play up here, and it
Speaker 1: just shows you how you've got to establish this run
Speaker 1: game in order to have success throwing the football too.
Speaker 3: This is winning football. Okay.
Speaker 1: It's a ten to ten game. Fourth quarter, and the
Speaker 1: Chiefs started off at their own three yard line.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt for six yards, Kareem Hunt for and he
Speaker 1: just got here this week, right, Kareem Hunt for six yards,
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt for seven yards, Kareem Hunt for five yards.
Speaker 1: P Ryan for two yards, so they've dug out of
Speaker 1: the hole. They're only at the twenty three yard line.
Speaker 1: Mahomes scrambles for thirteen out to the thirty six. Kareem
Speaker 1: Hunt for six yards, and then an incomplete pass and
Speaker 1: then a pass to Kelsey and they wind up having to.
Speaker 3: Punt the football away. Okay.
Speaker 1: They get a stop, a three and out, okay, and
Speaker 1: then they get the ball back. And this was their
Speaker 1: touchdown drive which they had flipped the field. They're starting
Speaker 1: at their own forty yard line now, and they start okay,
Speaker 1: because they run the football so well. They start with
Speaker 1: a twenty nine yard pass to Noah Gray a tight
Speaker 1: end and then it's Hunt for nine, Hunt for five,
Speaker 1: short pass to Hunt for nine, an incomplete pass, and
Speaker 1: then p Ran a touchdown two yard run. But you're
Speaker 1: talking eighty percent of their plays are run plays. And
Speaker 1: then they get the ball back at the end of
Speaker 1: the game and it's a one score game. They get
Speaker 1: it at their own four yard line. Again, the game's
Speaker 1: not over. They got to get a first down to
Speaker 1: end this thing. And Hunt goes for four. Hunt goes
Speaker 1: for no gain, and then they threw a past to
Speaker 1: Worthy for sixteen yards and in the game.
Speaker 5: So they established that run game, that's right, And it's
Speaker 5: not so much who was running the ball, it was
Speaker 5: the fact that the offense produced a running game because
Speaker 5: Hunt was he wasn't with anybody, no training camp.
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Speaker 1: Natan Frisco has joined us, these six time Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: offensive lineman for your Dallas Cowboys, and we were just
Speaker 1: having me talking offensive line and the need for the
Speaker 1: offensive line to kind of set the tone for things
Speaker 1: on this offense. What are you seeing out of this
Speaker 1: offensive line now? Coming out of that Giant s game.
Speaker 9: The thing about this offensive line is it's a battling, hard,
Speaker 9: fighting offensive line. And I yes, I left tackling, struggling,
Speaker 9: but the other guys are holding up and so they're
Speaker 9: getting through this. The run game was a little bit better.
Speaker 9: There was a few holes this game. Uh, we don't
Speaker 9: know how bad the Giants are or how good we are,
Speaker 9: but we won the game, and our offensive line was
Speaker 9: a part of that win. And it was ugly for
Speaker 9: I left tackle. Yes, it was truly ugly. He has
Speaker 9: to learn that it's better to run guys around the
Speaker 9: horn than it is to let them come inside. I said,
Speaker 9: since training camp, technique technique technique, believing those long arms.
Speaker 9: He's not as strong as he will be after a
Speaker 9: full off season. He will still keep his keep his feet,
Speaker 9: He'll firm him up, he'll get tougher. But as long
Speaker 9: as he don't give up and continue to battle, my
Speaker 9: hat's off to him. And I just believe that this
Speaker 9: year it's a soft it's a soft rebual. You're trying
Speaker 9: to rebuild while maintaining some type of stability. But far
Speaker 9: as the offensive line, they played, okay. Uh, I give
Speaker 9: this whole team probably about a C plus a B,
Speaker 9: with Dak being an A. You know, with Dak being
Speaker 9: the only A that I'm giving up at this point.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 9: But the rest of the team seemed to be holding
Speaker 9: in there, in there battling.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 9: They're a rat way I thought they would be. I mean,
Speaker 9: every week, I'm gonna pick them to win. I don't care.
Speaker 9: I'm just a cowboy fan. I've been a home all
Speaker 9: my life. But the reality is the Cowboys are gonna
Speaker 9: have been a great fight this week, and we're gonna
Speaker 9: be missing some star players, and our offensive line can
Speaker 9: take another step to being a little bit better playing
Speaker 9: as a unit.
Speaker 4: Where you're happy with bbi's play.
Speaker 9: I was okay with it. I make for me to
Speaker 9: say that I went back and just studied him a
Speaker 9: lot of times. My first inclination of a guy are
Speaker 9: the offensive line as a whole. It's probably okay, And
Speaker 9: I think bb did what he had to do, because
Speaker 9: understand me. If he didn't, I promise you, seventy nine
Speaker 9: Dexter Lawrence would have exposed them. I promise you. This
Speaker 9: is a this is a man full of grown and
Speaker 9: then some so by him and the two guys, the
Speaker 9: left guard and right guard, they handled their business. I mean,
Speaker 9: we're looking for the one hundred yard Russia, the two
Speaker 9: hundred yard Russia, and Henry, could you just be an
Speaker 9: active so our fans can quit smogling over you, including me.
Speaker 9: Just go away, Henry.
Speaker 4: Okay, oh, Henry.
Speaker 9: Every time he rushed for more than one hundred yards.
Speaker 9: I listen to every show, and I'm okay with the Cowboys.
Speaker 9: But no, you're not okay with the cowboy Henry. Could
Speaker 9: you go away your nightmare?
Speaker 4: He was a nightmare in that game, right, Yes you were.
Speaker 9: I just I enjoyed the weekend. I listened to the
Speaker 9: I'm a red zone guy, not a fantasy guy, but
Speaker 9: I'm a red zone guy because they keep your breast.
Speaker 9: Whoever that guy is, he's very good at what he does,
Speaker 9: keeping you popping around the league and keeping you up
Speaker 9: to dating. So but that game last night, it just
Speaker 9: proved one thing. Nobody is invincible. The Bills, even Kansas
Speaker 9: City is fighting. When you have a Mahomes, it's just special.
Speaker 9: That's all I'm gonna tell you. It's just special.
Speaker 3: That's what I was just talking about when you came
Speaker 3: in here.
Speaker 1: Is even though they have mahomes, what won the game
Speaker 1: for them is they were able to run the football
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter of that game against the Chargers.
Speaker 9: Yes, he made enough big plays early to sustain them.
Speaker 9: The thing that this team has to develop and it
Speaker 9: has to build into their culture I'm talking about the
Speaker 9: Dallas Cowboys, is we have to have a tough, a
Speaker 9: tougher mentality. That's the only thing that has kept us
Speaker 9: out of the NFC championship game. It's that tougher mentality.
Speaker 9: We have talent, we have coaches that can put the
Speaker 9: talent into proper places, but are you dog mean mad
Speaker 9: enough to just take it when it comes down because
Speaker 9: the schemes by the fourth quarter everybody, know, everybody, it
Speaker 9: ain't like you coming up with something new, you know,
Speaker 9: like Uyi tittling finna make something happen. Come on, man,
Speaker 9: you are you just gonna go out there, you know,
Speaker 9: grab it man, you know, you know, like Jimmy said,
Speaker 9: grab them by the you know. But hey, we got
Speaker 9: to learn to do that.
Speaker 4: Yep, you know.
Speaker 5: And that's one of the reasons why those teams that
Speaker 5: got off to those fast starts on Sunday, Yes, couldn't
Speaker 5: sustain it because they were still having to throw the ball. Yes,
Speaker 5: they weren't running the ball well, yes, and that allowed
Speaker 5: Green Bay to get back in that game. So yeah, it's, uh,
Speaker 5: you need that part of the game. And it's not
Speaker 5: all based on the running back.
Speaker 9: It's the more this league tried to run away from
Speaker 9: the running game. What everybody has to do now are
Speaker 9: the smart coaches are doing these first four to six games.
Speaker 9: They're trying to keep it close with their running game.
Speaker 9: They're trying to maintain some stability, some balance to not
Speaker 9: let this other team get away from them. And if
Speaker 9: you're watching the Ravens game, how they have been letting
Speaker 9: people back in the game. But they say, you know what,
Speaker 9: they took their run game up another notch, so it
Speaker 9: didn't allow the team the other team to get back
Speaker 9: in the game because they just kept it. They ran
Speaker 9: the errors. But we'd like to say, run the air
Speaker 9: out of the ball. Our offensive line, I think is
Speaker 9: getting better.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 9: They're not technique sound now. Our two guards are. But
Speaker 9: our two guards don't look as good as they normally
Speaker 9: look because the players around them are not as good.
Speaker 9: If you take our guard, right guard and left guard
Speaker 9: and plug them in with the forty nine ers, they
Speaker 9: would be unstoppable. And so people be like, what, yeah,
Speaker 9: you plug our left guard and our right guard into
Speaker 9: the forty nine ers and in the forty nine ers
Speaker 9: of being invincible. And I believe that with all my heart.
Speaker 9: It's who you're it's who you're around. Like Magic Johnson,
Speaker 9: the Lakers were Kareem Worthy, uh Norm Knicks. These guys
Speaker 9: were already there. But when Magic came, oh, now you're
Speaker 9: talking about a whole different story, and I ain't gonna
Speaker 9: bring up to Washington com I'm not gonna do that
Speaker 9: because that kid. I asked everybody around here. I gotta
Speaker 9: ask y'all, what do you think about this kid from Washington.
Speaker 9: Don't give me all this and all, what do you
Speaker 9: think about that kid? The kid from Washington.
Speaker 5: He's playing the best football of his life. And this
Speaker 5: is better than winning the Heisman last year?
Speaker 4: Atsu. I think he took another step, yes, sir, from
Speaker 4: where he was in college.
Speaker 1: If I had the first pick in the draft, I
Speaker 1: would have taken Jaden.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you said that the other day.
Speaker 1: Nothing against Caleb William, Yes, but I would have taken
Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels.
Speaker 9: My thing is this right here, I'm asking people around
Speaker 9: the building and they keep telling me what he got
Speaker 9: this and he got that. Hey, y'all, he come from LSU.
Speaker 9: It's a world of talent down there. People misjudge Louisiana.
Speaker 9: I don't. These kids are outstanding. This coach that they
Speaker 9: have maybe not a great people person, but if you
Speaker 9: listen to him, he can get.
Speaker 3: You ready for the next we'll talk about LSU. LSU's coach.
Speaker 9: You may not like him as a human being, and
Speaker 9: he may not always seem to be went in the
Speaker 9: right way like he you know, even at Notre Dame,
Speaker 9: he would kind of why did they lose things? But
Speaker 9: his kids seemed to be intelligent.
Speaker 1: And then right in the case of Jaye Daniels, before
Speaker 1: that he was at Arizona State.
Speaker 9: Yes, Irm Edwards, Yeah, thank you, stay homeble my brother man.
Speaker 1: Okay, speaking of college football, did you see Alabama and Georgia?
Speaker 4: I did?
Speaker 9: Oh my god. I turned it off after the first
Speaker 9: fourteen you know what.
Speaker 1: I turned away because my wife's aid tech grad and
Speaker 1: so Texas Tech was playing.
Speaker 3: So I'm watching. She had the Tech game on. Okay,
Speaker 3: she had the.
Speaker 1: Big TV shit, and so I'm watching the Alabama Georgia iPad.
Speaker 1: And then it was twenty eight to nothing or whatever,
Speaker 1: and then it was even. It was Alabama kicked a
Speaker 1: field goal or something made it thirty three to fifteen.
Speaker 1: I said, okay, I'd done with And so I was
Speaker 1: sitting there, what the Tech game was close?
Speaker 3: I'm watching.
Speaker 1: So then I went and checked the score and there
Speaker 1: were three minutes left and it was thirty three to
Speaker 1: twenty eighth.
Speaker 3: Tech with this Tech game I flip.
Speaker 1: Over just in time to see the Georgia touchdown pass
Speaker 1: that gave them the lead on the first play of
Speaker 1: their possession and then the next play for Alabama. Do
Speaker 1: you know how old Ryan Williams is.
Speaker 4: The wide receiver for his eighth year of college?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, the wide receiver. Oh for Alabama?
Speaker 4: I thought you were talking about the tight end.
Speaker 1: Seventeen years old. I think his first name is seventeen
Speaker 1: years old, right, because every time takes the ball, right,
Speaker 1: seventeen year old Ryan Williams, who might be the best
Speaker 1: receiver not only in college football.
Speaker 3: But in the NFL right now Saturday night.
Speaker 9: But what a game the NFL. I mean it is
Speaker 9: the baby NFL. But isn't it time to put a
Speaker 9: cap and get out kids? Back on? His twenty four
Speaker 9: years of age in college is all the time?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, as far as well, you know what this
Speaker 3: is COVID.
Speaker 5: This the last year of the extra year of extra
Speaker 5: years for COVID.
Speaker 4: But you're right, I'm so sad that he's grown me
Speaker 4: grown men.
Speaker 9: Yeah, twenty eight, twenty nine, thirty years old. Some kick
Speaker 9: a thirty two years old.
Speaker 1: Here's a kid that did not play his senior year
Speaker 1: of high school. He should be in high school right now.
Speaker 1: Instead he's tearing it up at Alabama.
Speaker 4: That's him.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 9: They all while I was listening earlier doing today. You
Speaker 9: know college game day? Is it a saving thing? Is
Speaker 9: it an Alabama thing? Hey, it must be Alabama.
Speaker 5: So I got I got a solution for you. You
Speaker 5: got to have two TVs going at once.
Speaker 3: We've done that before, my big one.
Speaker 5: I had LSU on because and then I was like, okay,
Speaker 5: they're gonna kill South within Obama.
Speaker 4: So then I switched. They got the small tier.
Speaker 1: The rules at our house, when my daughters and their
Speaker 1: husbands are over, we can bring the extra TV and
Speaker 1: we set it up there when it's just me there.
Speaker 3: No, I cannot bring the extra TV. Watched it five,
Speaker 3: didn't get control of my scene.
Speaker 4: Just go upstairs and put two TVs on.
Speaker 9: We got it go yeah yeah, yea. But I saw
Speaker 9: my I saw my my wife on the college game day,
Speaker 9: and sell your family on that. You gotta just turn
Speaker 9: you on your wall.
Speaker 3: That's right, all right?
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