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Speaker 1: the Volume. Happy Tuesday, everybody, Happy NBA Finals. We finally

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Speaker 1: major matchups for our Chase three point segment for what

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Speaker 1: some schematic things that I expect from both teams, and

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Speaker 1: then I'm gonna give a pick, and then after that

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Speaker 1: let's talk some basketball. I love the NBA Finals. I

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Speaker 1: remember growing up, every single time Game one or any

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Speaker 1: of the games would start, you'd have that really cool

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Speaker 1: throw the ball up at center court. And there's a

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Speaker 1: history there, there's a meaning in like a it's almost

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Speaker 1: And that's why it's a big part of why, like

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Speaker 1: when we're talking about player rankings and you know, one

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Speaker 1: of your guys's favorite players is someone that you think

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Speaker 1: to get there, and why give so much preferential treatment

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Speaker 1: to the guys that have won championships. It has a

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Speaker 1: lot to do with how sacred I think the NBA

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Speaker 1: Finals are. This is the ultimate test of a basketball

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Speaker 1: player to succeed on this stage after everything you've done

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Speaker 1: over the course of the previous three rounds. And so

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Speaker 1: I'm really excited for Nikola Jokic and for Jimmy Butler.

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Speaker 1: They both have an opportunity in this series to stamp

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Speaker 1: matter what, when this is all said and done, either

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Speaker 1: very excited for that. And without any further ado, let's

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Speaker 1: do the usual. We're gonna go through series notes to

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Speaker 1: get started. Denver as of right now as a minus

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Speaker 1: four to twenty favorite rapidly increasing line. Denver swept the

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Speaker 1: season series two zero. Not a ton to learn there.

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Speaker 1: Jamal Murray missed one of the games. Caleb Martin played

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Speaker 1: But there were some stuff to learn, right Like I

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Speaker 1: Number one. Can Miami slow down Denver's offense? So Denver

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Speaker 1: They tried some doubling. There was a play where they

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