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Speaker 1: Yo spectorate on podcasts. My name is Brian b Do Miller,

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Speaker 1: Liah Wilson. Good see Elliott post things. Happy Turkey Day

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Speaker 1: to everyone. Everybody has some good turkey out there. We

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Speaker 1: got here working all right, yes, sir man, working hard, hard,

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Speaker 1: hard hard. Yo. I was wondering, man, everything we're doing,

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Speaker 1: I wondered, when we're gonna get that big guests man,

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Speaker 1: A big guest man. I think every guest is a

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Speaker 1: big guest man. I want, but I want to shake

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Speaker 1: up the hollidays. We know how they see the time.

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Speaker 1: I think about, like, you know, the classics, we dropped

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Speaker 1: on Christmas and stuff, and we always we always turned

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Speaker 1: up for the holidays. You know how great partners an

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Speaker 1: interval of giving us the holidays days off for the schedule.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not really into days off, man. I like

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Speaker 1: to work. If we can pull a heavyweight, I think

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Speaker 1: they'll let us drop one on a holiday, right produce

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Speaker 1: a Lorrid's put a bug in the air and said,

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Speaker 1: you know we can get a heavyweight. We'll see, We'll see,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean, there's only so many names you

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Speaker 1: could float around. But I feel like all our guests

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Speaker 1: in everyweight, including the one we have lined up today.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yes, we'll get to that in a minute. Though.

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Speaker 1: What you what you think of Grammys nominations. I think

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Speaker 1: that I think it's getting better. I mean, I see

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Speaker 1: a couple of grumblings about I think DJ Khalid and

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Speaker 1: maybe Future and Jack Hollins and God did. But I'm

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Speaker 1: not mad at put your Tea in Kendrick Lamar being included.

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Speaker 1: I would have rather had seen I don't know who

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Speaker 1: would have been admitted, but I wouldn't mind seeing Vince

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Speaker 1: Staples on there. Um. I think Joey Badass deserved the

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Speaker 1: look um and even maybe Freddy Gibbs. I think his

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Speaker 1: project is solid as well. So I guess I can't

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Speaker 1: be too upset. Yeah, I guess it. Kind of we

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Speaker 1: had that one year were kind of more the underground

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Speaker 1: independent artists got represented. This is this year feels very

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Speaker 1: like more mainstream, more major label, like when you get

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Speaker 1: like Atlantic with Jack Hollow or A Cold and stuff.

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Speaker 1: But I'm happy for klid Man, and I also think

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Speaker 1: that you know, it's it's gonna be hard to beat

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Speaker 1: the boy Kendrick Man. I just don't think like this.

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Speaker 1: The McLamore. Uh, I don't see him losing in any

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Speaker 1: of the hip hop categories. I don't see any I

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Speaker 1: don't see Kendrick losing to anybody in the hip hop space.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, if Kendrick is on the ballot

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Speaker 1: tucking ship in man like, I don't think just go home.

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Speaker 1: You know you beat him in the rap category, not

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Speaker 1: with off this album, I don't think and like, And

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Speaker 1: then he said every one of his albums has also

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Speaker 1: been up for Album of the Year, so you know

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Speaker 1: he's in that. Beyonce is in the mix. The Carters

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Speaker 1: we got. We gotta shout out the Carters. Absolutely what

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Speaker 1: most nominations of all time. They both have. They broke

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Speaker 1: all the records. Man, the Grammy family, Man, all the

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Speaker 1: Grammy family. Indeed, I think Beyont is well deserved. She's

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Speaker 1: you know, it's funny. I hate the fact that the

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Speaker 1: Album of the Year nominees are like been extended. It

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Speaker 1: used to be like with like five nominees. Now it's

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Speaker 1: like too many choices, like ten nominees. Right, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't like that. I don't like that. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: it should be like for five, right, good number? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: eight is enough? Yeah. Then now they turned into a

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Speaker 1: puzzling ships like there's ten albums like even no, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: i'd like to see I'd like to see, you know,

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Speaker 1: Kendrick gonna be win, Like I like to see somebody

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Speaker 1: obviously from the culture win. We've only really won hip

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Speaker 1: hop cultures only one album yor twice right, still the

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Speaker 1: Lauren Hill and the Outcast. Yeah, and that Outcast albums

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Speaker 1: almost twenty years ago. It was that two thousand three,

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Speaker 1: been a while since we've had someone representing from the

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Speaker 1: culture for the album of the year. So hopefully Beyonce

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Speaker 1: or Kendrick takes it home. Do you think of that

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Speaker 1: NAS album Man, and then you love that Magic record?

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Speaker 1: You love the NA Magic King Disease three is tough.

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Speaker 1: I think Magic is better. It's a better project, you

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Speaker 1: know that Magic Man. I feel like it's spotless. I've

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Speaker 1: been listening to it NonStop. I'm still upset that he

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Speaker 1: think it was easily the best rap album. Um, no

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Speaker 1: I think it was. It was definitely superior. How do

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Speaker 1: you feel about it. I like, I like Kings of

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Speaker 1: the second one of the best. I love that record done.

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Speaker 1: That's a queen's anthem. That's an instant queen's anthem. You know.

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Speaker 1: He shouts out that he's not at the whole jb

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Speaker 1: We've got a lot of love there. Um. But yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I think I'm just excited that he really did it

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Speaker 1: with hit Boy and they did four albums. Like I

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Speaker 1: remember those those loans where Knaves wouldn't put music out

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Speaker 1: and like leaping out here. Now for him to really

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Speaker 1: put out four albums in two years, like, it's it's ridiculous. Man,

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Speaker 1: I got shot four albums and two years. I could divide.

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Speaker 1: That's not bad. It's a good ratio. The only thing

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Speaker 1: now be a nice man. We gotta gets man that

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Speaker 1: doesn't want to talk to us man. And I think

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Speaker 1: this is his first album without only guest features, first

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Speaker 1: time ever. Huh. Yeah. If you don't know, if you're

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Speaker 1: not kind of like lost tapes, what about Nostra Thomas,

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Speaker 1: I had ron Osley genuine wow, you know, so holding

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Speaker 1: it down all by himself, big nas man, heavyweight, but

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Speaker 1: I guess today is also a heavyweight everyway in the

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Speaker 1: business side of things, right, Yeah, Burning Man shout out

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Speaker 1: to him, Man, like this guy's killing it on both sides.

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Speaker 1: You got hit me like, Yo, what do you think

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Speaker 1: of Burning? And I'm like, wait, Burning, Like I've always

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Speaker 1: like how successfully he's been, Like but I didn't really

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Speaker 1: connect the dots of the level that he's at right now,

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Speaker 1: Like crazy, He's been in the game for years, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And I feel like now it's

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Speaker 1: the right time to speak to him. He's on the

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Speaker 1: cover of Forbes magazine. He just opened up a flagship

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Speaker 1: is crazy because he hasn't been he's not a rap star,

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Speaker 1: but he's continually puts our albums and love the culture.

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Speaker 1: You can just tell him like remains dedicated. Like even

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Speaker 1: kind of mastered it. Yeah. I thought it was kind

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Speaker 1: of dope how he said he's not chasing a hit,

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Speaker 1: you know, like artists are usually chasing the record, you know,

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Speaker 1: the same. Yeah, and I'm glad we went there. I

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Speaker 1: think the one cool thing we always do is that

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Speaker 1: the bay, right, That was my first time in the bay. Man.

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Speaker 1: It took pictures by the Golden Gate Bridge like a

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Speaker 1: talking about your secret gold and Gold photo shoot? Man,

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Speaker 1: But it was just dope to like see how like

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Speaker 1: this guy's knew, Like what's it? What would you even

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Speaker 1: call like a compound factory? Like, yes, it's a compound

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Speaker 1: Ernest definitely investing in himself and in all facets, all

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Speaker 1: You know, they put more respect on his name. Man,

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Speaker 1: like he he should be always mentioned in that conversation

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Speaker 1: It's all significant to be on the Rap Rate Up podcast. Man.

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Speaker 1: Everybody doesn't get that. Look, man, that's a fact. That's

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Speaker 1: a fact. Jack. Let's get into it, man, specially rap

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Speaker 1: errate U podcast Live on the Bay But Burner, let's

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Speaker 1: get into it. Yo, it's a rap rate off podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is beat Elliot Wilson. Ellie, how are you feeling, man?

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Speaker 1: Feeling good? Man? We're in the Bay Area, Man, we're

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Speaker 1: rerappering the colors that basically you know what I'm saying

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Speaker 1: green and yellow. I'm like, but this man, man, rapper, entrepreneur,

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Speaker 1: cannabis king, the real life. I'm here. I'm here, brother,

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Speaker 1: I'm here to appreciate that. Brother. Can we start there? Man,

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Speaker 1: that's not that's no small feat. Man. We've been in

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Speaker 1: media for a minute. Man. Yeah, that's a it's the

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Speaker 1: next level of like recognition as a businessman, like a

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Speaker 1: lot of I know a lot of billionaires, but I

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Speaker 1: don't know a lot of billionaires. I got that cover,

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Speaker 1: and so, you know, it felt good to get that,

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Speaker 1: like they really recognizing the business to level up, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, so it feels good you get that call.

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Speaker 1: Like was it a power call like coming or bubblicist?

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Speaker 1: Like what was the process? Like they called me and said, yo,

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Speaker 1: they want you to be on the cover of Forest magazine.

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Speaker 1: And said, really, well that's amazing. Where they based out it,

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Speaker 1: they said, you know New York. I said, well, I

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Speaker 1: but I'm chilling with the family and i'd just be cancered. Right.

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Speaker 1: So I was at the house in Montana and I said,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not really down to get on the plane

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Speaker 1: get the craziest lineup of artists possible and there was

424
00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,119
Speaker 1: very feature heavy. Yeah, and it was A and R

425
00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:34,719
Speaker 1: Like it was A and R like a fucking pro.

426
00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,760
Speaker 1: Like you listen to some of them records on God,

427
00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,000
Speaker 1: He's like, wow, how y'all pull this ship off? Right?

428
00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,960
Speaker 1: But we're with from C to sales. I just beat

429
00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,400
Speaker 1: the cancer situation. I wanted to kind of ball haul

430
00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,760
Speaker 1: a little bit, kind of like double down, Like, look,

431
00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,960
Speaker 1: I've been doing this for X amount of years. My

432
00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,120
Speaker 1: my success is only climbed and never like really dropped.

433
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,080
Speaker 1: I never had the pressure of being on the radio

434
00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:55,760
Speaker 1: or being like a mainstream artist. So I was like,

435
00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:57,600
Speaker 1: let me just do for my fans what they want

436
00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,879
Speaker 1: to hear, which is like just like you know, my

437
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,800
Speaker 1: myself on a lot of these records and just kind

438
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,480
Speaker 1: of like the beats I I really funk with and

439
00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,320
Speaker 1: ship like that, I didn't really feel the pressure like

440
00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,800
Speaker 1: I felt on Gaudi felt pressure. I was like, oh

441
00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,520
Speaker 1: I might die. I gotta make the sickest album without

442
00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,600
Speaker 1: trying to like sound commercial and wrap like other cats,

443
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,240
Speaker 1: like how do I do that? And so this one

444
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,800
Speaker 1: I was like I could just do my thing, you know.

445
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,400
Speaker 1: So it was just like a brother of fresh air.

446
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,680
Speaker 1: You put out a project every year since damn yeah,

447
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,000
Speaker 1: probably multiple. I remember in two thousands, like two thousand

448
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,720
Speaker 1: nine or two thus eleven one of them. Here I

449
00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 1: put out five and they all did really well for me.

450
00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,600
Speaker 1: But you know, music was kind of like a thing

451
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,439
Speaker 1: I was just doing as a hobby. I had some

452
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 1: bread and I kind of funked with it as a fan,

453
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,000
Speaker 1: like just want to put artists on different type of beasts.

454
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,439
Speaker 1: But then when I needed to start working and started working,

455
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,360
Speaker 1: like when I walked away from from the street ship

456
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 1: and walked away from everything I did coming up, and

457
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,199
Speaker 1: I needed legal money to be there. It's the craziest thing,

458
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 1: Like I could survive all of my music, and that's

459
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:58,360
Speaker 1: why I laughed like people, but rap checks are beautiful.

460
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,880
Speaker 1: I own my whole catalog. I got forty seven of them,

461
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,400
Speaker 1: a lot of big group albums, you know, dope group albums.

462
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 1: So you know when I needed that music money to

463
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 1: kick in and kicked in, and I'm able to get

464
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 1: paid great money for shows and festivals. So I'm I'm

465
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 1: black a lot of That's what the Good Brother empire, right, Yeah, absolutely,

466
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,119
Speaker 1: I was. I think I was one of the guys,

467
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,199
Speaker 1: these first clients. I was at Ingrews and one day

468
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 1: you called me. It's like, yo, I switched your catalog

469
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 1: over to my new ship. You rock with me. I

470
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 1: was like, you did what? And and and guys. I

471
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 1: was the kind of guy used to go up to

472
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,399
Speaker 1: guys and but here's the Hunter Bucks. I blow my

473
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,160
Speaker 1: ship a sad and he's like, you know, I gotta

474
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 1: pay me. It's yeah, yeah, like I would walk in

475
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 1: on you guys, bload this a sad brother here, Hunter Bucks.

476
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,120
Speaker 1: He's like, that's my job. I got it. So he's

477
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,400
Speaker 1: seen he's seen a dedication too the crap. But I've

478
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,439
Speaker 1: been down with him since since then. We put a

479
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 1: lot of ship. But the propres like, do you have

480
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 1: a hit record or things like that, I don't want

481
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 1: to hit record. Yeah, because the second you you have

482
00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 1: a hit record, you come on the radio, Burns Pope

483
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 1: and Burnber. Then the second year off the radio man

484
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 1: what happened? He felt like, look at how many you know,

485
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 1: Like I don't want to say any things, but look

486
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 1: how many people had a big record. And then there

487
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 1: it's like I don't want the pressure. I like what

488
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 1: I got right now. It's cool, Like I honestly get

489
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 1: paid for some festivals more than some of these dudes

490
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 1: with big records get paid. And I could sell out

491
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 1: shows more than some of these dudes that with big

492
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 1: records could sell out shows. Like I see news about

493
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,199
Speaker 1: people hating to council tours and council shows or you know,

494
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 1: do discounts on tickets, Like it's good. It's good having

495
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 1: like a cult following, and like owning your lane, like

496
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 1: I own my lane. I'm good with that. I don't

497
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 1: I don't want the pressure of having a big record

498
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 1: like that, even like when I send records a big artist,

499
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 1: like I'm not going to send it to him here,

500
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 1: and and I'm a rap on a beating like this

501
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:49,719
Speaker 1: is gonna go to this person. I don't even want

502
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 1: the pressure having to follow him up doing that. I

503
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 1: think from from the sales, because we cover everything from

504
00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,159
Speaker 1: from from actual breeding to like you know, selections, to

505
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:06,199
Speaker 1: growing the flower, holding the dispensaries, making the hash um.

506
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 1: Everything you can do from from seed to sale, we

507
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: actually do. We're fully integrated, you know, we we handle everything.

508
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 1: So I don't know what low temp means in the

509
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 1: sense I love the song, but yeah, low temp is like,

510
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: have you ever seen people take dabs? Remember when corrupt

511
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,479
Speaker 1: your brother took that dab and fell over? Remember you

512
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: ever seen that? So like there was a whole era

513
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 1: of like hot dabs where people will take a dab

514
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 1: and it's really hot. It's a temperature when you're smoking hash.

515
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,919
Speaker 1: So before you guys came here, I was smoking a

516
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: bunch of hashdown stairs and we're hitting. Yeah, that's why

517
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: I haven't even picked up. I'm loaded right now, really

518
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 1: loaded right now. But you know, the low temp allows

519
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 1: for better taste and better experience, and you don't have

520
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,360
Speaker 1: to coughe your lungs out like I'm gonna grown ass man,

521
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 1: I have to prove nothing to nobody, Like all those

522
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,439
Speaker 1: big hot rips that everyone's choking and blown out. How

523
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: to smoke like, I don't have to do that, taste

524
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: that like a player. And it released with this project.

525
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,479
Speaker 1: It was with a stream, right, the booty stream from

526
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: Yeah Yeah. So no one's ever released a body of

527
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: music with genetics right, and so my goal was to

528
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,959
Speaker 1: give people exclusive, one time released genetics right. And that

529
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: that the reason why I actually turned out to be

530
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: a duble. We were waiting for the Seed project to

531
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: be done. It takes multiple years to breathe something right,

532
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: to do it right, and it took a little longer inspector,

533
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: so I had a little extra time. That's why I

534
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: added so many records. But we released the album with

535
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 1: the pack of seeds. So my fans that bought the

536
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 1: pack of seeds are in a private discord room with me,

537
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: and as they pop their seeds, they're gonna be able

538
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: to share their progress with me, let me see where

539
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: they find. And then the hold of private cannabis cut

540
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 1: for everyone that bought the seeds to see you know

541
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: who found the best variety from this from the Spheno hunt.

542
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,239
Speaker 1: So it's a really interactive project with the music, Like,

543
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: besides the music, they're able to engage with me on

544
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: something that we all bond together, which is you know,

545
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 1: weed cultivation. So I thought I thought it was pretty

546
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: genius and it was kind of like similar to NIPS

547
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 1: Proud to Pay campaign, Like I don't really want to

548
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 1: get into like the numbers and stuff like that, but

549
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: that that project rand it up, and we rand it

550
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: up like that for sure. Even with the success that

551
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 1: you have in throughout this project, it seems like wow,

552
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 1: listening to you, feel like you're becoming more cynical of

553
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: people in business throughout this project, like like no more

554
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 1: deals something that people hurt you? Bert, who hurt you?

555
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: Who did you hurt? Man? That day? I was so

556
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: mad at. I was so mad at that day man,

557
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: Like I'm really a CEO for real, Like I really

558
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: actually deal with my company a hands on with employees,

559
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 1: with deal structures, with you know, business partners. I have

560
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 1: hundreds of business partners and I and you know, in

561
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: business it's cutthrow right, And so I feel like and

562
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: no more, no more deals is hell of funny because

563
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: I was just like, again, it's my journal. I was

564
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 1: like hung up with car. I was like, I'm cool

565
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: off all this ship. I'm good. No more deal. I'm

566
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: not doing no more deals. And it's funny even became

567
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: a song. It's I can't believe that we put that out,

568
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 1: but it's just it's what's happening. So I think I'm

569
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 1: just getting fed up with people's creed. Man, I've seen

570
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 1: a lot of true colors and just getting the more

571
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: I grow, the more they come out. It was Alliance said,

572
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: Loyal's is the only thing you regret. Yeah, I mean

573
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: a lot of people we've been loyal to just switch up.

574
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 1: You know, that's in every industry that's a music, but

575
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: in cannabis it's like the new dot com. So everyone's

576
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 1: trying to rush to like the top. We know only

577
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: a few players will make it, and so we constantly

578
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: use our platform and elevate people to bring people into business,

579
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: to bring people into the market. Then they get a

580
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: little shine, a little juice, and they just act like

581
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 1: they're the biggest. They want to build around you instead

582
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: of building with you. And that shipped to me, especially

583
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: after the cancer ship has just played me out like

584
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I can't really see that no more.

585
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: Like I don't care. I'm comfortable where I'm out in life.

586
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: I'm comfortable who I am as a businessman. I know

587
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna get done. But it sucks to try

588
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: to bring someone up with you and put them on

589
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: real game and spend time and energy with him, and

590
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,199
Speaker 1: then they just try to build around you in a

591
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,239
Speaker 1: very like, very spiteful way. It would think a motherfucking by, Bro,

592
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: I'll leave you for for the look, I'm gonna go

593
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,360
Speaker 1: ahead and spend off and do this, but now they're

594
00:26:58,359 --> 00:26:59,959
Speaker 1: trying to sink you and want to take you down.

595
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of sick of having my guard up.

596
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: It's like, I really want to live my whole life

597
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: with my guard up, but I want to I could

598
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: retire right now, but so addicted to working. So that's

599
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: why you're kind of hearing the music because that's what's

600
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: going on right now. It's my way eventing. That's why

601
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: I still make music. That's how you did tweets on

602
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: Holloway's the time to play ball boys. My mother raised

603
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: me right. I believe in Calma. My heart has always

604
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: been pure, and you stay the same. I was like, okay, nobody, Yeah,

605
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: you know, I can't wait to just speak about predatory investment. Bro.

606
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: You know when when that when I'm able to open

607
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: my mouth and talk, I'm gonna talk to my ship,

608
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: but not only talk to them to educate people. I'm like,

609
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 1: this is how people try to really get you in business,

610
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: predatory investment. Yeah about us you interplated Tupac touched on

611
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: like two face to kind of folks. He said, investors

612
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: try to bring you down while you were sick. Is

613
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 1: that kind of alluding to what you're talking about? Yeah,

614
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 1: and I can't really talk about it, but just that

615
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 1: line right there, like picture having cancer, right and like

616
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: picture fighting for your life and you know, and still

617
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 1: running your company and someone just trying to take advantage

618
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: of that moment, right, Like, that's funked up. That's a

619
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: cold hearted motherfucker. And they're lucky that this is not

620
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: twenty years ago, you know, because I'd probably be thinking

621
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: a lot different. But again, like that's therapy side of music.

622
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: And that's why I love my music, because it's real

623
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: and I'll be able to look back at it like

624
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: a journal one day and be like, yeah, during that time,

625
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: I was going to do that, but and the next

626
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: album you probably hear some major elevation and yeah, slid

627
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: right through that motherfucker real quick. Right, So, because it's

628
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: a lot of joys, like you know, cut through a

629
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: whole new Lands. I'm like, Yo, somebody's pissing. Yeah, yeah, Yeah,

630
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 1: it's a lot of somebody's. Man, it's a lot of people.

631
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: It's a lot of people roll. But you know, they

632
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: hear those albums too, and I get so mad because

633
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: it's very no one knows who it is or what

634
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: it is, but they know what the fun is. You know,

635
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: they know who the funk they are, and so it's difference.

636
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: It's like it's like you know when rap beef comes

637
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: out and someone drops, oh yeah, you gotta dude, like

638
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: I'm doing that with you know, you know some whole

639
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: other level type dudes. They just they don't even know

640
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: how to respond to the you know. But I guess

641
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: that's the other that it comes from. Bone puts out

642
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: the list and say these are the wealthiest hip hop

643
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: artists in the names we know like jay Z, Puff, Kanye,

644
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: Dr Dre and you're right there. Burner's right there in

645
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: that group. Like everything comes with that, right man. That ship,

646
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: that ship hit on the birthday. I got that call

647
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: on the birthday. I was like, you're fucking ki. What

648
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: the well that's gonna come with a whole lot of

649
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: new ship. Sure, it's like having a hit record. It's

650
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: worse Bernard fourth wealthiest. It's like and the way that

651
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: you know that Burnard passed up Dr Dre's that's funked up, an't.

652
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to want to read that ship. That

653
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: sounds scary. It sounds like a lot of responsibility. You

654
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: took lor. But Burder's out here and yeah, but that

655
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: was cool too because you know, like a lot of

656
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: people people say, well, Burner is not rapper and he

657
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: got all his money from something else. We so did

658
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: everyone else on that list. J did his same with business,

659
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: so the puff so do you Burman and Drake the

660
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: music it became Drake is super paid off music, but

661
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: he's not a man. And I respect then that Drake

662
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: is on but he's on that list, right, And it's

663
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: the business side of things that really elevate you. And

664
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: I feel like there's like a small percent of people,

665
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: you know, fifty fifty gets it, a bunch of other

666
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: you know, there's a couple other people that get it.

667
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: But that business side of it. If you use music

668
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: as your platform and build your business and it's the

669
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: biggest I don't understand why people don't get it. And

670
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: we celebrate that too. I just feel like maybe people

671
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: still sleep on you a little bit with that, right, Yeah,

672
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: you're one of the most successful businessmen and hip hop

673
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: and that's what we promote. The music elevates that. Yeah.

674
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: I love being an underdogar though. It makes me happy.

675
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: Like when people are like, oh, this ain't real, I

676
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: wonder if this is. That was anal question. It's just real.

677
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: Hey man, that guy he did. That guy looked at

678
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: tax returns, He looked at a bunch of things. It

679
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: was like it was probably like a six month process.

680
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: A lot of due diligence, you said, passion, patience, persistency,

681
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: and purpose made this possible. Get to get the way. Yeah,

682
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: I've been passionate. I've been very assistant. I've been very patient.

683
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: I've waited. I could have gave up a long time ago.

684
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: A lot of things happened to me that would have

685
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: made a lot of people give up. And then I

686
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: have purpose behind what I'm doing. I love what I

687
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: do because it genuinely brings people together. If you think

688
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: about weed, I wouldn't know how to be what I

689
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,479
Speaker 1: know now. If it wasn't for weed, I feel like

690
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: we just the one thing bringing peace um to the table.

691
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: It's it's uniting people all over the world. I can

692
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: go somewhere and um, someone would be waiting in line

693
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: for a cookie store does not speak English, and and

694
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: it's just totally obsessed with the brand that I've seen

695
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: people in Spain, Scotland and Ireland, Italy with our tattoos,

696
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: you know, on their head, their arms are It's like, oh,

697
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: this ship is a real It's really uniting people. So

698
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: that's why I still do. I got purpose behind what

699
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: I do. It's not just about the bread. The bread

700
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: is cool, you know, but I invest my bread and

701
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: things like where you're at right now, this is a

702
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: creative I just want to put it all back into

703
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: the you know, the process. You talk about this place. Yeah,

704
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: you're you're you're in the trap. Pause right now. You

705
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: know this is this is the only functional room right now,

706
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: but you know it's square foot billion in decades like media,

707
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: creative design, um, just just marketing, branding, like everything that

708
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: we've done. I've never had an office. So if I

709
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: made the top four wealthiest rapper with no office, and

710
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: what am I gonna do with the compound? Wow, I've

711
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: been working from the house on the couch for that billy.

712
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: This man, I'm coming forward. Man. You know my name

713
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: is burn. It starts with to be I. I'm trying

714
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: to get there. Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to get there,

715
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: but you know, very classy. I want to get there

716
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: in a very classy, respectful way. I want people to

717
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: respect you know, the process to get there. I've been

718
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: working my ass off. I worked nineteen hour days. I

719
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: don't stop so that hustle. Man, Is it something in

720
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: the water here in San Francisco? Because you called the

721
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: city the birthplace of independent music? And what is it

722
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: about this city that you know we have? We have

723
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: some pioneers, man, like you look at like you look

724
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: at the forty he laid, He laid the independent blue

725
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: pant for us. You've got the people like Jo Big,

726
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: a figure from the city, and you know you got

727
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,719
Speaker 1: Master Pas out Yeah. Master Pa was out here when

728
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: he learned a lot of game about independent music and

729
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: took that ship to a whole at the level. So

730
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: the Bay Barrier has always been setting them trends for

731
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: the independent music, but also I think we were so

732
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: unrecognized out here. Think about how many people from the

733
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: Bay actually really made it, like to a whole another level. Right,

734
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: So I feel like we also have that drive in

735
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: us still want to push harder and harder. And you know,

736
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: ship Man, I'm Mexican too, bro, So the work, I

737
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: think it's just in me my dad. My dad is

738
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: one of the hardest working dudes I've ever met, and

739
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: he works his ass off. Right, you said on double Up,

740
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: it's still cut throat in the Bay, right, what man, Listen,

741
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: don't leave nothing in your car. Do not leave nothing

742
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: in your car. They will pop these windows so fast

743
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: out here. But you know, the Barrier is a very

744
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: small place. And going back to what I said, not

745
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: many people have made it out here, so there's a

746
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: lot of envy. It's a lot of weird energy. It's

747
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: like any city. If you still live in your area

748
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: and you made it, you're gonna have to deal with things.

749
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: But you know, the Bay is a cutthrow spot. It's

750
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: cool to see like you and Larry June guys, that

751
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: Collabal one of my favorites cooks and orange juice, and

752
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: he's from the Bay as well. Like working together in

753
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: the Yeah, man, I gave Larry June a lot of game.

754
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: He gave me a lot of good energy. It was

755
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: a good energy transfer for sure. Like he's a good dude.

756
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: He brings a lot of good vibes to the table,

757
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: for sure. I love Conglomerate. I was telling beat Up,

758
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: we don't even realize that the homie Momz is inconcrated

759
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: right now a lot of us. Yeah, he actually bro

760
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 1: He came there the night before he went to go

761
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: turn himself in. Like me and Mazzy got a closer relationship.

762
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: We bring a lot of energy out of each other.

763
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: He reminds me of the Jack rest in piece to

764
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: the jack. But when I used to do albags in

765
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: the Jack of um, like he brought a certain kind

766
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: of energy out of me, and he brings the energy

767
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: out of me, and I think I do the same

768
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: for him. But we recorded the that song another song

769
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: before we had to go in, and we had some

770
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: chicken parmer genre and some never tried that. He was

771
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: fired up on it, but he never he never tried

772
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: chicken parme genre and cas pepe before that night. Yeah,

773
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: we had my little my fiew meal. Conglomerates a great record,

774
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: my brother Cosmo and the Hookie producer as well, And

775
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: that's the type of ship I just feel like a

776
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: lot of artists are running from right now. I'm not

777
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: really in the catchy tunes. I want some show you

778
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: could really ride too. I saw that you said, is

779
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: you're really proud of is a co champagne for lunch?

780
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: You said this record is deeper than what many may

781
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 1: think special. Now that's um. So if you listen to Hook,

782
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: it's like, now there's no more stress for months and

783
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: cold champagne for lunch. So when I got done with

784
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 1: the cancer treatment, they make you do a test every

785
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: three months, and it's a it's a blood test and

786
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: looks for a circulating tumor DNA. So basically, you know,

787
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: you take this test every three months and it tells

788
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: you whether there's some cancer stuff flowing around in your

789
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: body or not. And I told the homies that didn't

790
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: really quite understand. I was like, that's like if you

791
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: raw a dog the random chicken Vegas and you took

792
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: a test and you're you're waiting to get it back.

793
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: I gonna be a little nervous, right, Except this is

794
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: a lot realer. You know you had cancer. You know

795
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 1: you just did surgery, you know you just did chemotherapy.

796
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: Is it still in your body or not? So when

797
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: I got the information that when I got the new

798
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: was back that it wasn't, it was like, fuck, well,

799
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: at least I know I got three months without worrying

800
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: about this ship finally for the first time in six

801
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: or eight months. Right, So that Cole Champagne was like,

802
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: it was like my first record after getting that news.

803
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: Pretty much every pretty much you're gonna have to check

804
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: every three months for five years. Wow. But the more

805
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: you passed, the better it looks for you. And you

806
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: also appre back with we're doing a pressman forgot that

807
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: it was only detection, right, you have hired a private doctor.

808
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: That's how you found out. Yeah, it's weird because it

809
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: stays three. So the way colon cancer works in a

810
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: lot of black and browns are getting this in the

811
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 1: early thirties right now. So everyone should screen for this asap,

812
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't matter how healthy you are, trust me,

813
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: the food we've been eating as fucked. So you know

814
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: I was stayed three. It was about to bust you

815
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: my cold on wall. But the sad thing is you

816
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: don't feel symptoms and cancer until it's too late. So

817
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: if I was throwing up blood or my kidneys my

818
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: side heard or whatever and whatever the other Simpsons would

819
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: have been, it would have been staged for already, and

820
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: it's almost impossible to really fixed all the way I

821
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: did a random I was sitting there one day. I

822
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: was like, Man, I got bread, I got everything I

823
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: need in life. What is it that I'm missing right now?

824
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,439
Speaker 1: I was like, probably get a private doctor, probably looking

825
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: to my health a little bit and make sure I'm cool,

826
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: because I want to be here for my kids, you

827
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And when I found this private doctor, um,

828
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: he offered a test um that just came out two

829
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 1: months prior, that test for fifty different types of cancer.

830
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: And I was like, sure, I'll take it, blood tests, whatever,

831
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: and he found it like that. So I think it

832
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: was one of the first people that that test actually saved.

833
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: And unfortunately I didn't really fit the demographic for their

834
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: target audience, UH to actually really get behind the real

835
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: campaign for that test. But I went on the radio

836
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: still and I told everyone about it. Was well, even

837
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: if you guys don't want to use me in the

838
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: platform you guys have, I'm fit to talk about this

839
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 1: ship and where I go, because yeah, because we should

840
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: know about this ship and we should be taking a ship.

841
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: It costs a thousand dollars to do that test. Motherfucker's

842
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: out here buying Gucci belts and going the club and ship.

843
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 1: You might as well lit get this test because we've

844
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: been we've been getting played right. You don't know, nightmare

845
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: as you talk about that too, he said, like when

846
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: things change when you're closer to death, Like, what are

847
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: some of the things that you know change your perspective. Yeah,

848
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: like just not allowing negativity to really affect me, no more,

849
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: enjoying every single day as much as I can, enjoying

850
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: the family. Put in the family first, just like I

851
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: did with the forest cover. When they called, I was like, no,

852
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 1: I'm chilling right now, Like I don't feel the pressure

853
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: I have to do that. Also, like picking your projects

854
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: a little more wiser, and you know, just kind of

855
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: like tying up the circle a little bit, and you know,

856
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: just just really understand, like, man, this ship is really precious.

857
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: You could change overnight. They could change again overnight, or

858
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: a change overnight. So we're blessed to be here, I

859
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: faced my biggest fear. I ain't really tripping no more.

860
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: Like I'm not scared to fly anymore. I used to

861
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: be scared as the fly, Yeah, and I used to

862
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: be really bad. And uh, the other day we had

863
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: probably the worst turbulence we had in years, and I

864
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: was sitting next to a therapist and We're just talking

865
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: about life and ship and seeing a little palms all

866
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 1: and sweating and ship. I was helping her out. You know,

867
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: we're blessed to even be here to feel this ship.

868
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, don't worry about it.

869
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: The food weeds worse than this, Like you know what

870
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like I feel way less safe driving with

871
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: my assistant. We're good. We're good right now. So they

872
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: just really helped me. It's crazy he talked about being

873
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: afraid to fly because you talk about those trips on

874
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: Southwest Airlines. Man. See, now here's the thing. It was

875
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: weird because like when I was young, I wasn't scared

876
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: to fly, right, and I was flying doing my things

877
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: shout to Southwest. We was on the bird with things, right,

878
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: so I wasn't really scared to fly. But when I

879
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: started getting like face successful, Like when I had my

880
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: baby and I started getting face and I thought there

881
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: was this weird I thought, like I could get rich

882
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 1: one day. What if I dined in the plane. I don't,

883
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't get a chance to get rich. And it

884
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: was the weirdest fear ever. And you know that comes

885
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: to some other things too, like, Um, I had the

886
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: FEDS with me for a long time when I was

887
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: getting off the planes at L A x D. Yeah,

888
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: DA used to be waiting for me to go through

889
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 1: my ship searched me, question me, asked me an hour

890
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: and a half questions make me miss my connecting flight. Um.

891
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: I went through a tropical tropical storm one time coming

892
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: from Jamaica that really scared the ship out me and

893
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: the stewardess gave me his anex. I think I asked her.

894
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 1: I said, I don't think I'm about to have a

895
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: heart attack on this bitch. I knee something and she

896
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: gave me something and I was all like out of

897
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: it when I got to play in the feeds and

898
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: pulled me when I got off to Jamaica flight. And

899
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 1: so I think my trauma from flying was like mixed

900
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: with the treblence but more about the experience with the

901
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: fucking fens that ship was whacked. It was like a

902
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: three year period. They're just fucking with me. Yeah, a

903
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: lot of people fucking with the weed. Man. It seems

904
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: like you're really concerned with this Fedanel crisis that's going

905
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 1: on right now. Man, you talk about it on pain

906
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: like fenels trying to kill us all. Yeah, you know.

907
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: Fenel was like, it's more for the people, like people

908
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: don't want to do like a adderall they bought on

909
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: the street, or people that want to do some coke

910
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 1: or do some blow that they bought her, people that

911
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: want to do like his. Like a lot of people

912
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: are doing drugs and don't know where the funk is

913
00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: coming from. And I feel like, you know, I want

914
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 1: to get conspiracy down, but I feel like there's some

915
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: group of people flooding our country with fenel on purpose.

916
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 1: And I'm just you know, I lost my cousin too,

917
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: I lost my little nephew to it. Rest in peace,

918
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: you know. So I've seen a lot of people close

919
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: to me starting to die from fentol and I think

920
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: it's some bullshit because none of them wanted to die,

921
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: and none of them wanted to do. Fanyl was just

922
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: and ship that they were taking. So I think that

923
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: there's um, there's an overproduction of fanol. It's coming into

924
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: the US. It's not the cartels. People are saying it's not.

925
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: The cartels are pissed. There's been messages out there saying

926
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: that if we find out who's lacing ship with fanol,

927
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: it's a rat for everyone because you're working with our business.

928
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 1: Because people are scared to do drugs that which, hey, look,

929
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: drugs are bad. You shouldn't sniff or putting anything in

930
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 1: your mouth. Just stick with the mushies, stick with stick

931
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: with the earth. But for the people who do want

932
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: to party, because they've been doing it since before we

933
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: were here, they shouldn't have to worry about dying for

934
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: some fucking drug that's being made and sat here in purpose.

935
00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 1: You do much making this album too, right, Yeah, mushrooms Now,

936
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: I can't do anything like that. I'll be on the

937
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: roof of head jumping off. Man. If you just micro

938
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: docea a little bit, it's good from mine, it really,

939
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: mushroom is good for your body. I don't know, I

940
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: think too much, so I'll start tripping out man and

941
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: talking to myself and pacing back and forth. And I

942
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: do that sometimes too, but it's okay. Looked like Mike

943
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: Tyson didn't that crowd recently, he was. He was in

944
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: there talking to stuff, my boy shots with my boy

945
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: Iron Mike Man. He was loaded the crap shout was

946
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: another guy you try to get attention to. Elon Musk. Yeah,

947
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit down and dude, he's he's a smart dude.

948
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 1: A lot of people are, like a lot of celebrities

949
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: want to talk to him, you know, because he's one

950
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: of the richest dudes and ship. I just think the

951
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: dudes got some really created people around him. I went

952
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: to SpaceX. I got two or SpaceX employees over there

953
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: are very forward thinking. There's a lot of black and

954
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,720
Speaker 1: browns in the building doing their dang young very creative,

955
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: very innovative, and I think that he's the one dude

956
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: breaking the barriers right now. If you think about this

957
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: stuff that they're about to pull off, probably like in

958
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: three or four years, you better to go up in

959
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: this big spaceship, let the world orbit, and then come

960
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: right back down where you're supposed to go. So no

961
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 1: more flying across country, no more turbulence. Right, you're gonna

962
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: go up and save all kinds of gas by going up,

963
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: lend the world orbit and coming back down you can

964
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: get to this says something like New York to Lendon,

965
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: like in like ninety minutes or some ship like that.

966
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 1: So this I funk with that, Like we've been told

967
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: by NASA that it's very far, and it's very Then

968
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: motherfucker came in here and started doing all kind of ships.

969
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: I just funk with innovation, really, and you want to

970
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: do some sort of cross pollination with him, and now

971
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: you know, my whole goal with him was like, look,

972
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: if you guys are really going to call an eye

973
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 1: of Mars, you guys are gonna need hemp. You're gonna

974
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: need cannabis if you're gonna try to put humans on Mars. Right,

975
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: if that's your goal, whether it be three hundred years

976
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: or three thousand years, I know some of the best

977
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: nexts in the world, not just from us, from all

978
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 1: all my breeder partners all around the world. And we

979
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: know who has the best sustainable himp, like you know,

980
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: the best hemp genetics as well, And because you're gonna

981
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 1: need that for rope trees, all that you can't just

982
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: grow big as trees on Mars. You know, you don't

983
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: have to get in that greenhouse and have rows and

984
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 1: hemp to use for material. As we know how how

985
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: good hemp is. So I just want to bless him

986
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: with the time capsule and say this is a goot

987
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: for me and my friends around the world. Whenever you

988
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: guys make it to Mars, just make sure I got

989
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: a little statue with myself up there. And that's it

990
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: for y'all. Y'all hold it. You guys can have the

991
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: best weed. You guys have the best hemp, and people

992
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: will be able to do something to keep their mind busy.

993
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: Because I don't see someone going to Mars without smoking weed. Man,

994
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 1: that's just me. Maybe I'm think it's small or whatever.

995
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: But you're gonna go to a whole another planet and

996
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: build that bitch out and getting the good earth. Man.

997
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: Let him put some plants by the tomato plants. Man.

998
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: Let me let him harvest that good weed, clear his

999
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: mind after a long day of farming and ship, you know,

1000
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: before going to Mars, going to Hollywood. Man, how are

1001
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: you acting now? Yeah? Low one theory. Man, I got

1002
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: my first acting role. Man, like we'll see how I do.

1003
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I really want to do it. Um. Besides that,

1004
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: I got a scripted serious coming on on a pretty

1005
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 1: big network. It's called packs. Um. It's about the Bay Area,

1006
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 1: about the rise of designer weed, about trafficking. It's like

1007
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 1: a real it's a real based on true events story.

1008
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a scripted show on on on a

1009
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: pretty big network. I can't say which network, but kind

1010
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: kind of you know, based on my ship. I'll be

1011
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: in the writing room created by me along with some

1012
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: other people. So that's gonna be dope. And I thought

1013
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: would be the perfect layup to start building out my media,

1014
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 1: uh you know, media portfolio, whether it be acting in films,

1015
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: doing short films, writing my own films, Like I would

1016
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 1: love to get that look from this big network and

1017
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 1: then have a portfolio on my own ship to follow

1018
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: up afterwards. That's what kind of show should I hold?

1019
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: What kind of content? Yeah, fans, we're gonna build some

1020
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: sets here. I'm gonna do a couple of shows here

1021
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: and just trying to see what people want. I'm a foodie.

1022
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: I want to do some food stuff, not with me

1023
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: in it, but like I want to curry some really

1024
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: good cooking shows. I wanna I want to do like

1025
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: a like a shark Tink style show where like actually

1026
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: created fun with the cup o other dudes. Right, find

1027
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: a couple other minorities that think like me, create like

1028
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: a three hundred four and a thousand dollar fund. Have

1029
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: people come to the show and pitch us things actually

1030
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: investing besides the investing part of things, actually showing like

1031
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: what we like and what we don't like. Let's see

1032
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: what the fund do. Like so season one, whereas I

1033
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: find out did we lose money? We make money? Who

1034
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: funked up? Who's the bad guy in the group? You

1035
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: know we're gonna kick someone? So I want to do

1036
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 1: something like that, so it shows like that. You know,

1037
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: I just ship too. I like content man, Did you

1038
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: really lose a quartered ticket in the mail? You know? Ship? Uh?

1039
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: Things things go really wrong with the mail man. You know,

1040
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,959
Speaker 1: like once once I should lose your leaves your hands.

1041
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: You have no you have no control of it, bro,

1042
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: whether whether someone yanks or whether whether it be a

1043
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: post office employee finding it and yanking it, whether the

1044
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: fees take it, hold it to see if something's going on,

1045
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: whether your partner says that got intercepted and just fox you. Um,

1046
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: I think the show Packs will have a lot of

1047
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: that gut butterfly in your stomach kind of five to

1048
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: it because a lot of dark sh it happens in

1049
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: that game. Oh my god, I'm glad. I gotta deal

1050
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: with that. That bullshit no more, right, So this is

1051
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: illegal drug money. You know, it might have been all yeah,

1052
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: you know, based on you know, fictional events, you know,

1053
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean that's the good thing about Packs.

1054
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: There's gonna be so much game about, like the game

1055
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: and the Bay Areas rolling in the South, roll in

1056
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: Atlanta and Houston's rolling the weekend Like a lot of

1057
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: crazy shit happen. Never realized to them. We so much

1058
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: because of banks and stuff what's found upon. So it's

1059
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,479
Speaker 1: such a cash heavy business, right like certain banks would

1060
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 1: even allow you to you know, put bro they kicked

1061
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: they kicked me out of Welles, they kicked me out

1062
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: of the first republic Um. What's that? What's that one

1063
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: bank that's super nice that takes care of all the celebrities,

1064
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: like a celebrity driven bank. I was in that thing

1065
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: for a little while. I don't know, I keep on

1066
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 1: money on the Mattress. Well, I got kicked out a

1067
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: lot of banks that had nothing to do with cannabis.

1068
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: I'm talking about from my music money, straight from iTunes first,

1069
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 1: straight from Empire to this bank account, right, not even

1070
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: my touring money. My touring money was in a different

1071
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: How you gotta go, I'm like, but it shows for

1072
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: many years a check coming from Empire distribution to this account.

1073
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: How is that anything? We don't like what you represent,

1074
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 1: you gotta get out of the bank. So they've been hating,

1075
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: but when they come back around when things go federal,

1076
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: we're not gonna bank with none of those motherfuckers. We're

1077
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,439
Speaker 1: gonna remember who what's cool to us, and we're going down.

1078
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if you have your own bank burner.

1079
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 1: I would only do it to get the picture like

1080
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: Mohammed Ali alive, like with that safe do it? Like yeah,

1081
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 1: Ali photograph was just sick. I finally buy a bank.

1082
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: Just we bought a bank and made the Canvas club

1083
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: already we already did that. That was pretty cool. Well,

1084
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: you bought a bank. Yeah, there's a bank and in

1085
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: heyward's an old bank. Now that's a cookie store. That's

1086
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: that's fun. That kind of counts. It kind of counts.

1087
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: But when you're out there, you have was there a

1088
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 1: time when you had a lot of money on you

1089
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: was just stressed up carrying let's be so cash heavy

1090
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: and running around town. Hell yeah yeah, I mean before

1091
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: the federal so right now, of the unions except cash.

1092
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: You have to pay like a cool like a little

1093
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 1: amount on it. But like bro, I mean you're talking

1094
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: about the business is all cash, and you get to

1095
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: get creative on ways that I didn't move it around. Man,

1096
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: you can share video games, my guy, video games. I

1097
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 1: was living in a real life video game with the ship.

1098
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: It's sucked up. It's very scary. It's very scary. But

1099
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: you know, we were were blessed to make it out

1100
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: of that era. And now they've got credit unions that

1101
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: take cash, and I can't wait to I think that

1102
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: show like now. So the show will cover kind of

1103
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 1: like the street side of cannabis, the medical side of canabs,

1104
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: and the legal side of cannabis. And the cool thing

1105
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 1: is the legal side, just as cut throwers the street side,

1106
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: especially with some of these regulations and having to move

1107
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: cash around like that, and some of these crazy as

1108
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: investors and ship like that. So it gets it, get

1109
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: it stays rocky the whole time. It's not like, oh

1110
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: my god, it's legal. It's all yeah, yeah, right with

1111
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: a whole another animal right now, a whole another animal.

1112
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 1: These guys are more scary than streetcasts you talk about like, um,

1113
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: those partnerships are kind of tough, like on the Legacy

1114
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: on the Gaudia album. So you dissolved another partnership. You

1115
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: don't even care about it at the time. Yeah, I

1116
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: want to say which one. But you know, it's like partnerships, man,

1117
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 1: Like you partner with someone, you you try to build

1118
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: something something not everyone gets the idea of, like a

1119
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: long term building something for the long term. People want

1120
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: the brown bag right now, well now, not all the time,

1121
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: just a brown bag coming. And how many times, how

1122
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: many times you partner with someone and they're doing all

1123
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 1: kind of side deals and get all kind of bread

1124
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: and just pocketing and not keeping the truth to the group,

1125
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: And so you know that that particular partnership was like,

1126
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: thank God, this partnership is out of here, because it

1127
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: was more of a headache than a benefit to me.

1128
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 1: And I wasn't really wanting to build up anyone like

1129
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: that anymore. I'm kind of like, let me just focus

1130
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: on my core, our core brands, my court, my core group,

1131
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: and stop trying to expand so much, trying to help everyone,

1132
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: because now everyone's gonna want to appreciate the help to

1133
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: know what to do with the juice and three now

1134
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: to keep solids. Yeah, speaking of Stout, I feel like

1135
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: i'd like to see the connection you have a with

1136
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: Khalifa right like he's done the current album. It's like,

1137
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: I guess that was kind of the first like hip

1138
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: hop CoA sign you've got in the sensor right here. Yeah, yeah,

1139
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: he um. He gave me a good opportunity with Taylor

1140
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: Gang early on in my career, and I think he

1141
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: brought a lot of eyes toit table for me and

1142
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: we had a really good sound together to that people enjoy.

1143
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: We got good chemistry and yeah, man wisdom man. So

1144
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,479
Speaker 1: I've been working in since like two thousand and nine

1145
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 1: something like that, but never it's never switched up. It's

1146
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: still now that's my brother right there. Yeah. I mean,

1147
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people want to group

1148
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: album for us from us, and hopefully it happens one day,

1149
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: you know, That's what people have been asking for. But

1150
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: I than that. Man, we've been solid since. You know,

1151
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: I help him with some of this cannabis stuff, and

1152
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: you know, he's doing this thing right now, and I

1153
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: think that we've both elevated each other in a lot

1154
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: of different ways. Another rapper you've been connected with is

1155
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 1: Jay Z. Right. Yeah, I got opportunity to talk to

1156
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: him a couple of times. Yeah, you talked. You said

1157
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 1: the level up with legendary talk about some of the

1158
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: conversations that you guys had. You know, I just got

1159
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 1: a chance to talk to him about business. And the

1160
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: fact that I got a chance to talk to him

1161
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 1: was like ship. I mean, that dude, he's a dude,

1162
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: and he's like the guy that we all look up

1163
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: to be, you know, and as a hip about partists

1164
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: as far as spreading your wings and and being able

1165
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: to like get into business outside of music. And so

1166
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: when I got a chance to talk to him, when

1167
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: he first got into his his side, you know, his

1168
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: dealing cannabis, like it was tright to the fact even

1169
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: reached out, you know, I got a chance to talk

1170
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: to him. It was like wow, all right, well fucking

1171
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: that's wild. So we're getting there now. You know, so

1172
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: shot to j uh, probably like one of the smoothest,

1173
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 1: most unique dudes I've met as far as like business conversation.

1174
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: You know, some some artists be all over the place

1175
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 1: and don't really know what they want to do. Or

1176
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: he's very calculated, he's very he's very smooth. For sure,

1177
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: Puff is in the business. And he did he did

1178
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: a good move. He bought pretty pretty big assets, three

1179
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: of them so on the East Coast, and I think

1180
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: I think he knows what he's about to do as well. Yeah,

1181
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 1: I mean I seem like you seem like you were

1182
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: saying the stories like be your stuff, you use other

1183
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: people like you seem open to, you know, welcoming to

1184
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: other people coming into the stuff. And look, the more

1185
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: people that look like us, the better, because what's out

1186
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: there right now, ain't it? And the good thing is

1187
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 1: if I ever get a chance to talk to Puff

1188
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: right and he asked any advice about his business, I'll

1189
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: be able to tell him like, hey, here's the real

1190
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: genuine players right here that deserve that platform right there,

1191
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I know I could

1192
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: at least lead some of these bigger guys that get

1193
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: big assets in the right direction of you know, the

1194
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: real legacy players stuff like that, you definitely wouldn't And Kamer,

1195
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: when the Elliott made reference to earlier, you said, you

1196
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: remember days you thought you'll never win, right, Well, was

1197
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: some Why did you feel like that at that time?

1198
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: Life be hard? You know? I mean when I was

1199
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,760
Speaker 1: growing up and when I was living in my dad's apartment.

1200
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: You know, his apartment was on top of our restaurant,

1201
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: you know, studio apartment. Me and my little brother and

1202
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 1: my dad and one of the chefs all in one

1203
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: little space, you know, and the ship. It's just tough.

1204
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 1: And then you know, coming up and and and being

1205
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 1: involved in the ship, I would being things going wrong

1206
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: was tough. And also being the underdog is tough. I said,

1207
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 1: I love it, but stuff, you know, it's like even

1208
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 1: when you get the flowers, you're so scarred from being

1209
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: the underdog for so long that like it's still tough, right.

1210
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: And so when I felt like I wouldn't make it,

1211
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: like I was working my ass off, I was doing

1212
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 1: everything right. Nothing would hit. It wouldn't hit, it wouldn't click,

1213
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: it wouldn't click. Like everything I was doing it just

1214
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: wasn't working. I just remember sometimes feeling like, man, should

1215
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: I just really go back to just the ship I

1216
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 1: came from, shout, really risk everything again, just do what

1217
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: I know how to do. Or should I stick with

1218
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 1: this dream of being a real CEO entrepreneur being a

1219
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: clothing guy Like I didn't I didn't go to school

1220
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: for clothing and I didn't go school for business. I

1221
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,439
Speaker 1: never graduated in high school. So you know, I took

1222
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: a big, deep investment in myself and that ship was tough.

1223
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: You talk about like back in the days like ninety eight,

1224
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: we had a smaller circle and hitting messages like what

1225
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: was even though with the success and you know, the expansion,

1226
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: Like why do you go back and think about those days?

1227
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: Because it was pure you know what I'm saying. Those

1228
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 1: those dudes are my friends because they were my friends.

1229
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: You know. It wasn't like, uh, what can we do

1230
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: with burn How can how can we use what Burns

1231
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: built to get us on it? Like there was no

1232
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: alternative motive. We're young, we're getting high, we're having fun, right,

1233
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 1: and the circle was real, like those are the guys, Like,

1234
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: god forbid, if I've had to do some ship today,

1235
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: Like someone really fucking fucked me over, I call the

1236
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 1: same dude and we joke about it. You know, we're

1237
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: all older now and ship, we're all out of shape

1238
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: and whatever, but we all know one thing. We're solid,

1239
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 1: We're real. Motherfucker's right. And so the cats you come

1240
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,240
Speaker 1: up with, like man, like, I miss that smaller circle

1241
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 1: because you know what's real. You know, you know who's who,

1242
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: and you know, to this day, I still keep a

1243
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: small circle. You see me with a few people like

1244
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 1: my brother calls Mom, my brother Stingy, a couple of

1245
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: people I would really be around, and my team that's

1246
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,240
Speaker 1: in the building right now. These are people I allow

1247
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: myself to be around. But I do miss that before

1248
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: it was Burner days. You know, that Ship was fun.

1249
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: This new project, man see the Sale is definitely one

1250
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: of the fun most fun listeners I had this year. Sure,

1251
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 1: that's just super real and like there's a lot of

1252
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: details and what I went through, and I almost didn't

1253
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 1: put that Ship on there, and I was like, man,

1254
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: it's a little it's kind of negative and ship my,

1255
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: but going back to it's it's what's real, that's what's happening.

1256
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: I'm actually glad that you guys even checked out the

1257
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 1: album you know, I was. I didn't expect you guys

1258
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: to be even looking at what I'm doing. Music business.

1259
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:36,919
Speaker 1: Music business that makes sense, but music like the fact

1260
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: you guys checked out and you funk with it, that

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00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 1: means a lot to me too, because we do put

1262
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 1: a lot of effort into this music, like from like

1263
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: you know, the production side of it, to the mixing master,

1264
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 1: Like we really mixing master every beat, and like I

1265
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: see a lot of acts now, some of the biggest

1266
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: acts in the world. I'll get a beat folded from someone.

1267
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: I'll hear a tag on that beat, right, and then

1268
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: someone comment but actually went to so and so. Then

1269
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: I'll hear the album come out like a day later

1270
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: and the tagle I didn't even max that beat, and

1271
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: it's the biggest song in the country and they didn't

1272
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: mix that beat. I'm like, we're sitting in We're sitting

1273
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: there for fourteen hours working with kicks and drums and

1274
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 1: all this bullshit, and they even makes the beat. But

1275
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:15,879
Speaker 1: it's good to hear that y'all actually took a listen

1276
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: because I feel like the music like it's it's like

1277
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: a polo shore. It's gonna sound good ten years. I

1278
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: think it's crazy that you have so many so much

1279
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: content you put out already, but I feel like this

1280
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: run you around kind of with Gotti, and now this

1281
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: record is like to me, it's bringing a lot more

1282
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: eyes to it, Like you put a lot of work

1283
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: into getting this and this, it seems like business wise,

1284
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: and even with the music, things are continuing to elevate. Yeah,

1285
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna keep elevating. I think the music

1286
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: is gonna get like a little more interesting. Um, the

1287
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: kind of collapse I'm trying to put together an hour

1288
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: insane like insane like not even like anything that anyone

1289
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: would ever picture, and not even really on some rap

1290
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: Sure it's just on some music ship. And I think

1291
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 1: that once those kind of things will come out. I

1292
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be big. I'm gonna put in the

1293
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: universe right now, and I hope I don't blow my load,

1294
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: and it's probably the worst thing I could possibly do.

1295
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna put it out there. But me Eric

1296
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: about doing Bob, we were talking about doing something right

1297
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: now and just on a just on a on a

1298
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: song you're talking about the Grateful Dad, But I do

1299
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: and burn like that's just a total different vibe that

1300
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: no one's ever gonna How would that even sound? How

1301
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: how would that record sound right now? Who knows? Hopefull

1302
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: you get a chance to hear that. Mother this just

1303
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: because I feel like you always talk about, you know,

1304
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: your passion as an artists, but you also have that

1305
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: sort of a and our side. I feel like that's

1306
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: really like also part of you. I'm gonna get into that,

1307
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: like if um, you know, when I decided to put

1308
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: down to the mic officially, which every artist says they're

1309
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: gonna do it, never does it say that. But when

1310
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: I get bored of actually like putting full projects together,

1311
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: I really want to. I want to air on our

1312
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: Mamzy album bad, real bad. I really want to get

1313
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: with Massy and do a whole project. I want to

1314
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: an our Whiz album really bad, really bad. I can

1315
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: see you do the Callet type ship. I guess you

1316
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: really just put artists together in different slots in the

1317
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: whole situation because we've been doing this so much. When

1318
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: you when you got forty seven bodies of music and

1319
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: you have to fill in these gaps and you're doing

1320
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: group albums, you understand like, who would sound good on this?

1321
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 1: Who wouldn't sound good on this What would be different

1322
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: for this artist? Just if you take this artist like

1323
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: and put them on a sample beat, how would that

1324
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: sound like? When I took down South artists and put

1325
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 1: them on sample beats, it sounds so sick alone was

1326
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: ever doing that? There was all rapping on trap beats

1327
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 1: like that. So I feel like we we bring some

1328
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 1: cool ship to the table. How do you look at

1329
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: the state outside of your music, the state of hip

1330
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: hop right now? Do you feel inspired the things that

1331
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 1: stand out to you? I feel like the biggest problem

1332
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: with hip hop is probably like how fast things move.

1333
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: Like you drop something and it's cool for like three

1334
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: days and then people are just moving. So I was

1335
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: saying it's lasted a little longer, but that's just you

1336
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: have the tap would change. I think the biggest problem

1337
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 1: with hip hop is to stream ship. They got paid

1338
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: more for that ship. It will make no sense that

1339
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: stream of ship don't make no sense business lass like

1340
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: they I missed the day is when I would go

1341
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: to City Hall Records and drop off ten thousand physical

1342
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: albums and get paid five dollars the album and get

1343
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 1: my cash. Mis I'm miss cash every time I get

1344
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: it out, played with it extra long. I just sit

1345
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 1: there with it. I'll pay with it, you know what

1346
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But how the treat you like a criminal

1347
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 1: when you pull up with cash? Ye? People spent to

1348
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: be tipped anymore like casts like its I'm just like

1349
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: I'm old school. I keep it. I keep a little

1350
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:24,919
Speaker 1: sticks and the back pocket for musical As you said

1351
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: that also on Twitter, you said that you love that

1352
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: you never switch your style, your sound for new trends.

1353
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 1: That's the biggest flex. Yeah, I ain't doing that because

1354
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 1: a lot of people do do that, especially like when

1355
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: you get when you get on a record with someone else,

1356
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: like people will switch their whole ship up just to

1357
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: try to please an artists not people want to hear

1358
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: me from me right, And I've seen a lot of

1359
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: artists try a bunch of different things and get lost.

1360
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 1: And I think I blame that on the labels. A

1361
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,959
Speaker 1: label tell someone this ain't it. How are you gonna

1362
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: tell someone just went to spend all the time making

1363
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: some music, which is they're creative, right, they're creative process

1364
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: to make something that that's not it. I've never had

1365
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: no one tell me that, So maybe I'm played myself.

1366
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: Maybe I didn't, But my my biggest flexes, I've stayed

1367
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: true to me. I've never switched up my style. I

1368
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 1: still wear baggy ass clothes. I still sag. I still

1369
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 1: don't give a funk, you know what I'm saying. Like

1370
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 1: I still wrapped away. I was coming into a little

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01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: smoother delivery and and the same same purpose behind every project.

1372
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 1: That's why I love to sell. Even though you have

1373
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: the chip on you showed up, which I enjoy. It

1374
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 1: has a real cool vibe to it, you know. Yeah,

1375
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: Because even I'm mad these guys in Player, we could

1376
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 1: sit down and figure it out. What I'm saying don't

1377
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 1: come from me. They expect me not to do nothing.

1378
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna talk to my ship like a player though,

1379
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: because I feel like when you're going to rant, nothing

1380
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: really gets hurt. I agree. You can play as Cooks

1381
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 1: and Orangees. That's the first song, and then you and

1382
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 1: Larry reunite for that sequel. Maybe were you at Larry

1383
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: come pull up to this is not? Yeah? Now, we

1384
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 1: we talked about doing something because when we dropped that,

1385
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 1: we didn't really get a chance of what happened? Was

1386
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: it COVID? It was COVID. It came out during it

1387
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 1: came out during COVID, so we didn't really get a

1388
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,919
Speaker 1: chance to do like a merch clap and a proper drop,

1389
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: like we don't really run that bishop like we were

1390
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,439
Speaker 1: supposed to. And we did it so fast. I think

1391
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 1: me and Larry talked about doing something else. Yeah, and

1392
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 1: no notice before we get out of here. You know,

1393
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: we had seat the sale. Probably that that was guiding

1394
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: he had what's up with the Mafia? Yeah, So I

1395
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 1: like to do if you look at my ship, I

1396
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 1: do my thing like in Trio. So I did be

1397
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: like draw season one, Draw season to job season three,

1398
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 1: they'd be like, you know, l chivo la plaza and

1399
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:28,439
Speaker 1: what was the other one there was? There was another

1400
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 1: one that was like themes on the Latin side, right,

1401
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: So with the Mafia series, it was it was Russ Buffalinoy,

1402
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 1: sister Roll and then Gotti and I ended Gotti. I

1403
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: ended the Mafia series like with the Best Way Possible.

1404
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 1: Unreleased audio of John Gotti Senior that was unreleased that

1405
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 1: was from wire taps. So when I met John Jr.

1406
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: We just we hit it off. We became good friends,

1407
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 1: and he told me for this album What would make

1408
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 1: this album special is me taking some wire taps to

1409
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 1: my father no one's ever heard, and let him kind

1410
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 1: of you know, be a part of the project, you know,

1411
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 1: through interluding stuff like that. I was like, wow, So

1412
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 1: he actually brought surveillance tapes and ship like that. We

1413
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 1: ripped the audio from that. So, um, that was like

1414
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 1: the strongest way to end the Mafia series. Now we're

1415
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: on the Weed series. You know, from C to sale.

1416
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 1: You know what's gonna be the next one? Probably be

1417
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 1: two more, you know what I'm saying. Probably me and

1418
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 1: Be Real will come with one on some Weed ship.

1419
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 1: I'll be like our fourth album together. Um. But yeah,

1420
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 1: I like I like the trios. I like it's like

1421
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: some E. P M D type ship. Yeah, it's like run.

1422
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,920
Speaker 1: Now we're in the Mafia vibe. So I'm gonna run

1423
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 1: this vibe right now, and now we're back in the Weed.

1424
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 1: When we're back in Weed world, all right, slicking Vester

1425
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 1: talk this and that, business deals and you know, maybe

1426
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 1: to Be Real album will be more focused on just

1427
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: big high iTunes. You know, I don't know, but that's

1428
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 1: how I like to do. Split it up cool and

1429
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see you at Cookies Christmas. Yeah to Novo.

1430
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 1: This is my first time doing Cookies Christmas in l A.

1431
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: I think we did have like nine or ten years

1432
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 1: straight in the Bay sells at every time at the Warfield.

1433
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 1: I've known l A has been really really supportive on

1434
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 1: on the streaming side of the things. They've been one

1435
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 1: of my biggest fan basis. So the goal is to

1436
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 1: do it this year in l A and then next

1437
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 1: year do the Barrier in l A. So the Bay

1438
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 1: don't hate me. What's your aspect from the show, you know?

1439
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 1: I like to just provide a good experience for the fans.

1440
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: We come out, we get super high, always bring out

1441
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 1: a big guest. Um. I brought out a lot of

1442
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 1: big guests. UM. I don't know what I'm gonna bring

1443
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 1: out this yere. I don't know if it's gonna be

1444
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 1: like more like my entourage, like intimate, like people are

1445
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 1: really really funk with im. It brings someone super big

1446
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 1: out for them. But whatever it is, that place is

1447
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 1: gonna be extra foggy, and if you don't smoke, motherfucker,

1448
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 1: you float out that big, really really float out. Cookies

1449
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 1: Christmas for sure float on top of the forms list.

1450
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: Every year. Man on a big cloud, dressed like Santa

1451
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 1: Claus rich rapper list and everyone's gonna want to see

1452
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 1: me at Santa Claus this year. What's your gifts up? Well?

1453
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 1: Thank you for saying the MS man. Appreciate you, Yes, sir,

1454
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: appreciate you coming all the way out here to give

1455
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 1: a flying right back man and out if you want

1456
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 1: to flow home, I got something. Just got a lot

1457
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 1: of hash in too for the people saying he even

1458
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 1: hit it that hard. This is full of hash J

1459
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 1: right here. This is one of them big J. So yeah.

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01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: See the sale podcast. Yes, rapp rator is The Interval

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01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 1: Presents original production from hyper House, produced by Laura Wasser,

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01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 1: Hosts and producers Elliott Wilson and Brian b. Dot Miller.

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01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: From Interval Presents executive producers Alan Coy and Jake Kleinberg,

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01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 1: Executive producer Paul Rosenberg, editing his sound design by Dylan

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01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 1: Alexander Freeman, Recording engineer Yoshi Rodriguez. Special thanks to Charlie Jenkins,

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Speaker 1: Tammy Kim and Jasmine Sanchez, Kaz Benny Blanco and Young

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Speaker 1: Stingy Chowder. Operationous Lead Sarah You, Business Development Lead Chef

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