1 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 2: I peanut to him and this is the NFL Player's 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 2: Second Act podcast and with me as always as my 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 2: trust to co host mister Roman Harper. 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: What's up. I'm doing well, man. 6 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 3: Really excited about this our next guest, because I've competed 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 3: against this man. We have friends of similar friends, and 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 3: it's been really really cool to actually get down and 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 3: sit to talk to him, compete against him in college, 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 3: and now actually getting to see face without them face 11 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 3: mask and underneath the helmet and actually get. 12 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: To talk to him. I'm fired up about it. 13 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 2: Hey, he's a seven year event. He is the founder 14 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 2: and creator of a headphone company. Ladies and gentlemen, please 15 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: welcome to the pod. Mark Clayton's. 16 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 4: Appreciate it. I appreciate you. 17 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 2: Appreciate you coming on. 18 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 4: Mann. Glad to be here. 19 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 2: I see you're still rapping out of that Baltimore Ravens. 20 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 5: I love it, you know. At this point, to me, 21 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 5: I'm like a big fan. I'm a fan that has 22 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 5: creative ideas. 23 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm just a fan. 24 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: Are you a creative? 25 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 4: I am a creative. Be an architect. 26 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 5: I wanted to be an architect actually, and then those 27 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 5: Labs was whooped my ass, and so I. 28 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 3: Went on, okay, yeah, because you know, so I didn't 29 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 3: know what a creative was. My wife is a creative. 30 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 3: And then we've done the pod with Nate Berlisson. He's 31 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 3: a self proclaimed creative as well. So when you meet one, 32 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 3: you're always I'm always a little Fascinated's like you guys 33 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: think with the other side of brain than I do. 34 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 3: When you guys look at things, you look at it 35 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: from a total different lens. 36 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 5: Everything is a math problem. Everything is is something can 37 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 5: be better. You always are looking, well, not even that 38 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 5: you're looking. You just see a solution in a situation, 39 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 5: no matter what it is. You just that's just how 40 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 5: your mind is wired. 41 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 3: So absolutely so how serious were you in high school 42 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 3: about joining the Air Force? After high school? I think 43 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 3: you said, I received my first college letter from Texas 44 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 3: A and M, which is Armed Forces University. In a way, well, 45 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 3: they actually have more than anybody because they got them 46 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 3: all overseas. 47 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: True that that's a very large court right there. 48 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 3: And and you said you started to getting more from 49 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 3: engineering schools because coach Ozzie made it a point to 50 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 3: know what we're what we were interested in. And reached 51 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 3: out to the schools on you guys behalf. 52 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 5: Indeed, coach Oz was a god saying bro like he was. 53 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 5: He he made it a point to know his guys 54 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 5: like he spent time with us. We didn't, you know, 55 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 5: exit meetings was not a thing in high school. 56 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure it was not. 57 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 5: And so he would spend time with us and just 58 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 5: ask questions and get to know the players one by one. 59 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 5: And that led to getting the offers from the engineering schools. 60 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 5: And you know, I really was going to go to 61 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 5: the Air Force because my whole family background was military. 62 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 5: I had had an uncle in the Army, h granddad 63 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 5: in the Navy, and we had a marine. But nobody 64 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 5: had went to the Air Force, and I thought learning 65 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 5: to fly would be dope, and so that in architecture, 66 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,399 Speaker 5: I felt like I could fall in one of them 67 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 5: in the Air Force and be good to go school. 68 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 5: I wouldn't get recruited. I was a j I was 69 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 5: on junior varsity, I was starting on junior varsity. And 70 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 5: then I would line up or I was third string 71 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 5: on varsity that quarterback. The two starting quarterbacks got or 72 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 5: the starter got hurt, the backup got hurt. I had 73 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 5: to play. We played de Soto. We went over there 74 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 5: and we left there bait beat down. And after that, 75 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 5: coaches like, hey, look, I think we're going to change 76 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 5: your position and movement the receiver. 77 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 4: And that's that's. 78 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. 79 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 3: So you guys get beat down by the Soto, which 80 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 3: is normal, fairy, I agree. 81 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 4: To this day. 82 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that happened. 83 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 3: Was it that bad that he was like, hey, we 84 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 3: got to move you or it just the way you 85 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 3: explain that story, just tell you took a. 86 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 5: Big a little bit more in depth. So we were 87 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 5: not let's relive it. We threw the ball, but we 88 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 5: didn't really throw the ball. I wasn't I could throw 89 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 5: the ball, but I could run it. I was quicker 90 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 5: more than I was arm. So we ran a little 91 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 5: ran a little option, and then we got the eye 92 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 5: formation and then we would play pass and try to 93 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 5: throw the ball down the field. That game, I think 94 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 5: I think we probably crossed the fifty yard line twice. 95 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: Damn. 96 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:35,119 Speaker 5: So whoever leading this, that's really that. It was thirty 97 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 5: to zero. You know, defense kind of held up, you 98 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 5: know for offense that didn't. 99 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: It's pretty good and you know, ain't nobody got in 100 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: high school. 101 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 5: So yeah, rolling, Yeah, I ain't really like that either. 102 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, it was pretty bad, okay, but yeah, 103 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 5: I mean and it sent me to receiver. I played 104 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 5: one game at the end of that I had one 105 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 5: catch for ten yards, I remember, and then we got 106 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 5: in the spring in seven or seven hit and it 107 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 5: just clicked. 108 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 2: That's when seven on seven really started to start. Ninety 109 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: eight kind. 110 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 4: Of yeah, and had the big state. 111 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: The state terment. 112 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, we went there. See. 113 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: It's crazy how Texas is because nobody else in the 114 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 3: country is doing seven on sevens like this. 115 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: We've been I've been doing it to Texas. 116 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 3: We've been doing California is another school because California has 117 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 3: always thrown the football, even when the eighties and early 118 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 3: nineties when everybody was still just run the football. 119 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: California. Yeah yeah, def Tevor all those guys. 120 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 3: California's always throwing the ball, so you always went and 121 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 3: got your quarterbacks. Texas is right on that list as well. 122 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 3: I got to give you guys tons of credits for 123 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 3: text Thank you. 124 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 2: I take them, I appreciation, thank you. 125 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: I still rather take Florida, but I'm I. 126 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: Don't know why don't set it out loud again. 127 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 4: You might get you we do. 128 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 2: When do you think you started to take football real seriously? 129 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: Uh? 130 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 5: My junior year in college, well, going into my junior 131 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 5: in college, before that, I was a I took basketball, 132 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 5: that was all about basketball, and then getting into college 133 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 5: was I was kind of happy, go lucky. 134 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 4: I wasn't. 135 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 5: I didn't expect to go to college and so to 136 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 5: be there was just you know, I'm playing with house money. Yeah, 137 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 5: and I treated it like that. Going into my junior year. 138 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 5: One of my boys will people's he uh he just 139 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 5: he challenged me. 140 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 4: Over the summer. 141 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 5: I was just kind of coasting through, you know, our 142 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 5: drills and all that. Was like, bro, what the hell 143 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 5: you doing? Like like, bro, you so like you got this, this, this, 144 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 5: and you just waste like you you're wasting your time. 145 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 5: Like bro, you can be great, like put the work. 146 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: In and yeah. 147 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 5: And so from there, for whatever reason that that that stuck, 148 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 5: and you know, me and Jay White uh started spending time. 149 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 5: I was like, hey, let's let's go after and we 150 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 5: just started spending extra time together. And then from that 151 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 5: day going forward that junior year, I ended up you 152 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 5: know the first time I made All American team yeah, uh, 153 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 5: the numbers were crazy. And then then I saw I 154 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 5: got that the letter that you get, you know, once 155 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 5: you get done with the season, I give you your 156 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 5: draft grade. That made it, you know, it made it 157 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 5: very real as to where I was at. And then 158 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 5: going into that spring if my senior year we all 159 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 5: came back, we decided to stay because we had just 160 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 5: lost to L. 161 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: S U. 162 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 4: A and a tough one with that spirits had to 163 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 4: pick six on this. 164 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 5: Ye put it away, but uh yeah, and you would 165 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 5: get back. And that year for me was like it 166 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 5: made sense as to my position just as a leader, 167 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 5: and so putting the work in and then bringing guys 168 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 5: with me was a lot of my senior year. But 169 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 5: prior to that, it took you know, my boy will 170 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 5: to you know, getting my ass. 171 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 2: Is there any regret as to why you didn't probably 172 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: work that hard or taking that seriously your first three years? 173 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 4: No, I had a great time. Like, yeah, I had 174 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 4: a great time in college man. 175 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 5: I you know, again it was just like my life 176 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 5: where I come from and what my future was in 177 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 5: my mind. This was absolutely it blew that out the water. 178 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 5: And so I had a great time. I enjoyed, you know, 179 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 5: college young. I enjoyed my friends, I you know, enjoyed 180 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 5: the coaches, the mentors. 181 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 4: Beginning to speak. I started to speak for the first time. 182 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 5: And remember my sweaty palms before I go out in 183 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 5: front of the church to you know talk, right, all 184 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 5: that at seventeen and eighteen. 185 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 4: I did not regret that at all. It was it 186 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 4: was it was awesome. 187 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: Did you have to do the Eastern speech? 188 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 4: Not the Eastern speech? Okay, it was it was the 189 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 4: high school. It was like the youth group at my 190 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 4: first yeah, yeah, yeah. 191 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: So you know, first of all, I fill in some 192 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 3: blanks for what Mark just said. Jay White is actually 193 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 3: Jason White, the quarterback I played against him. I was, 194 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 3: I was thinking I was at the game I played against. 195 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 3: He tours a c L Yes, what year was that? 196 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 3: In Norman and Norman that was versus us I was 197 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 3: actually playing versus Alabama. He tours a cl like right, 198 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 3: and from it, nobody touching, nobody touched. He literally just 199 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 3: went down. 200 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 4: Both of his a cls was untouched. 201 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 3: Like yes, all right, so out couch double damn ye. 202 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 3: But Jay White was a great college quarterback. Great and 203 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 3: then Jamal Brown has a very similar story. Big Priers 204 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 3: about you. He's like, dude, this du Mark clam was 205 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 3: like nobody, bro, and then just out of nowhere. And 206 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 3: I think, I don't know if he knows that story 207 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 3: what you're talking about with your boy Will just like 208 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 3: sometimes it takes somebody to tell you how great you 209 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 3: can be before you actually believe it yourself. 210 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: I think it's that's true. 211 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 2: So we had this conversation before, like, it's just something 212 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: So for me, I always thought that everybody that made 213 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 2: it to the league wanted to be in the league, 214 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 2: like all the good players, yourself, myself, you. I thought 215 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 2: everyone just wanted to do it since they were a kid. 216 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 2: And not until you and I were talking, would you 217 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: say you're going in into your junior year? Someone said, ye, 218 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 2: senior year, Yeah. 219 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: You're I can go to the league. It's just this 220 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: is my year in college. I didn't even think I was. Yeah. 221 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 2: But for both of y'all, that baffles me because I'm 222 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: just like, you didn't know you were that good to 223 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 2: not go to the league. Nah, And I'm I was 224 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 2: the complete opposite, where I was just like, this is 225 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: what I gotta do. I got here and I had 226 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 2: goals and plans and I wrote everything out like this 227 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 2: was my vision. So I always think it's it's I 228 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 2: don't want to say crazy, but it's just I'm also 229 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: just kind of like, damn, they didn't. 230 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: Think they were good enough to go to the league. 231 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 2: It took them that long, Like you didn't know you 232 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: were that like natural naturally talented athletes. 233 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 3: Like it's just no, yeah, So that when I hear 234 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 3: your story, it makes me think of myself and then 235 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 3: it's exactly what Pete that's saying, bringing us aw full circle. 236 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 3: It's like people have these times and getting to know 237 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 3: you through the lens of my boy PRIs Jamal Brown, 238 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 3: like who talked about you all the time. 239 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: You guys are all same draft class pretty much, and 240 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: so it was it year before, but or you got 241 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 1: the same. 242 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 4: Uh no, no, same he was before me. 243 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 3: Okay, yes, So it's just really really cool to hear 244 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 3: your side of it all. And what I want to 245 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 3: know is, like, what does it feel like to be 246 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 3: one of six wide receivers taken in the first round 247 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 3: In that two thousand and five draft class. You had 248 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 3: Braylan Nevers whose number three overall, Troy Williamson number seven, 249 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 3: Mike Williams I mean, man, dude, everybody knew Mike Williams 250 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 3: at the time, and then you had Dog and then 251 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 3: you had Matt Jones. 252 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: Who Matt Jones the quarterback jack? 253 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, like college, he got me one time we played 254 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 2: played him. No, he ran like an r p O 255 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: and then oh he riding. 256 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 1: And then that stride. I mean it was like, you know, dude, 257 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: and I was. 258 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 2: Like, who the hell is this forest coup? Then I 259 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: was like, the first time in college the only person 260 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 2: to ever run away from me, couldn't couldn't get him. 261 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: I was hurt my soul. 262 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, he hurt Jones. 263 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 3: I played against them three three dude, Oh yeah, he 264 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 3: ran away from this. 265 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: From did that versus everybody? 266 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 4: He's six six yeah, yeah, thirty yeah, forty yeah. 267 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 3: And then three eight you were the twenty second overall pick, 268 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 3: right behind him, and then Roddy White. 269 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: Yes, Atlanta. So how did that feel when you are 270 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: in that list? H I mean, I mean you had 271 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: a quarterback drafted in front of you that play wise, 272 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: that's kind of weird. 273 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 5: But it was six six and ran a four three yeah, 274 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 5: project little We'll take a chance. O. Man, It's amazing. 275 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: I mean you. 276 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 5: It is thinking through everything that you had been through 277 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 5: and all the you know, all the work you put in, 278 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 5: but kind of those moments where it was like my 279 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 5: freshman year in college, I was going to quit because 280 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 5: of the workouts was too hard. Big Priz told you 281 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 5: about my you know, stature. But I was one forty 282 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 5: eight when I got there, and I couldn't do one 283 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 5: thirty five. 284 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 4: We got to when I got to college. 285 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: So I say that again. 286 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 5: I was one forty eight, Yeah, and I landed on 287 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 5: campus in Norman, and I could not lift one thirty five. 288 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 5: I got stuck on that. And then we went out 289 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 5: and run fo I ran a four seven four, And 290 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 5: then it was so on the nut to work out. 291 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 5: Oh No, I played all the other sports so I 292 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 5: didn't have to do the offseason workouts. 293 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: So I was just coach, I'm too busy. 294 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 5: I'm in basketball and I'm not doing football workout. Then 295 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 5: I go to track, I tried tennis, I tried anything 296 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 5: just to not do the off season workout. 297 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 4: I wasn't. Football was not I was. I wanted to 298 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 4: play basketball anyway. 299 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 5: First, right fast forward, and it's like, you know, you're 300 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 5: you're thinking back to these moments of I struggled in 301 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 5: the weight room. I was going to quit the university. 302 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 5: I tried to my grandmother's in Oklahoma City Lord wrestler. So, uh, 303 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 5: I go up there and I'm like, I'm I'm I'm 304 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 5: home for the summer. Like we don't, we don't have 305 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 5: to go back. We're off, and so I'm just gonna 306 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 5: get a job and work the rest of the summer. 307 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 5: And I was going to just be working. Probably a 308 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 5: few days into a girl it's like, I'm you know, 309 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 5: I'm sure you're supposed to be doing the workhouse right now. 310 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 4: And I was like, nah, we're good, We're good. So well, 311 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 4: let's go up there and ask coach. So she rolled 312 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 4: me right on up there. She wrote you right back, 313 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 4: and it was like what you doing? Where you being? 314 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 4: Where you being? 315 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: Mark? 316 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 4: You know, she was like, well he told me that 317 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 4: they off, y'all gonna be on. 318 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: I was like. 319 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 4: The whole ride up there just like a damn, I know. 320 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 5: Here we go, and so, you know, getting office and 321 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 5: Coach like, you know, what's what's up? What's going on? 322 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 5: Like I'm like, man, this is tough. Like I don't 323 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 5: I tore my peg muscle. You know, trying to lift 324 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 5: all you know. Way, he was like, man, look it's hard, 325 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 5: but you ain't the only one struggling. Bro, Like you're 326 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 5: gonna be all right, Like you say something, you feel 327 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 5: like that coming off, Come say something, and you know 328 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 5: from there it was just like the other bros came like, Bro, 329 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 5: like you're trying to quit for real, but they're like 330 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 5: we too, Like you had to just suck, but it's 331 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 5: we're gonna get We get through it together. 332 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 4: Absolutely So came back to university. 333 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 5: But I'm thinking those moments you know along the way 334 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 5: and the other coaches pulling it to your boys, pushing you. 335 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 5: That led to being able to get drafted in the 336 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 5: NFL and being the first round pick on top of 337 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 5: that was just like mind blowing. I couldn't you know, 338 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 5: contain like much. You know, a lot of guys you 339 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 5: start weeping. 340 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 4: It was. It was beautiful. 341 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 342 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: So two thousand and five, you're in the draft, go 343 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 2: to your team. What was that welcome to the NFL 344 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 2: moment for you? 345 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: Night? 346 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 5: It was on the field. It was a Monday night game. Uh, 347 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 5: the first game, rookie game, Monday night game. We played 348 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 5: Coats actually, so Peyton Manning, Reggie Stoke, Harrison like they're 349 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 5: on that side, you know, doing the warm ups, and 350 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 5: it was real at that point for me, who I've 351 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 5: looked up the Peyton you know they're doing. So I 352 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 5: was like, I'm I'm standing you know, you're on the 353 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 5: half and the other half. And I was close to 354 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 5: the fifty kind of watching them do their thing where 355 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 5: we were supposed to be doing our thing, and coach like, Clay, get. 356 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 4: Your ass over here. You got cast there, I got. 357 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 5: And then you know, shortly after that, it's time for 358 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 5: announce and then and then Ray uh comes out there 359 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 5: introduced defense and Ray came out. 360 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 2: How was that seeing Ray? How was that seeing Ray? 361 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: Like the whole thing the first. 362 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 5: Time, that first time, the first speech and the first dance, 363 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 5: is like I felt like I was on I could 364 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 5: go on defense. 365 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 4: I can knock somebody out. 366 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, it makes hair on your you know, your next 367 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 5: stand up like he just he got that fire bro. 368 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 4: It was it was just I was like, wow, this 369 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 4: is crazy. You're in the whole. 370 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 5: You know, you're in the huddle and the guys in 371 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 5: the front and here and then you get further to 372 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 5: the back. 373 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 4: You got here. But really with Ray. Bro, you could 374 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 4: feel it, like. 375 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 5: In the in the back the circle, like that dude 376 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 5: was just ferocious and it came through and you know, 377 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 5: I'm on offense, but I felt like I want to 378 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 5: go in safety, run the alley. 379 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 3: You know, did you did you ever play in Baltimore 380 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 3: and see Ray come out? 381 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? You did? 382 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 2: We played him in We played y'all one year. It 383 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 2: was a snow. 384 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 4: Storm and we came to you guys. 385 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 2: Know we we played you guys one year. There was 386 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 2: like a huge snowstorm to where we came and it 387 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 2: was like the snow messed up our travel. We ended 388 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 2: up losing the game. 389 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: But did you coming? I don't think that's no. 390 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 2: I think my mind no, I didn't. My mindset was 391 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 2: just like trying to hit somebody. I don't think it's 392 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 2: like that for the teams Like. 393 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 3: I would probably have to disagree because I was I 394 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 3: was on the I was just sideline and my man 395 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 3: Pierson Pralue, who had seen him. He's like, I was 396 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 3: like looking down trying to go with some heart right 397 00:17:59,160 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 3: about to come out. 398 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: You gotta see this. He's like, I'm like, Bro, I'm 399 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: not stating that heart. Stand up. You got to see this. 400 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 3: So I stood up on the bench just to watch, 401 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 3: and then I got it because like you hear about it, 402 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 3: you see it on TV, but actually witnessing and watching it, 403 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 3: it is different. 404 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 4: It's a real gladiator, it is. 405 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 2: But it just didn't do it for me. 406 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: I was fine. 407 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 2: I guarantee, you and I are probably just saying if 408 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 2: you was on another team, ain't nowhere like yeah, I'm 409 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 2: just I'm gonna go absolutely. 410 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 4: You say that, you know I don't remember. 411 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 2: I don't remember him doing it. 412 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm talking to Mark. 413 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 3: You say that, and you're the same guy that got 414 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 3: yelled at for staring at Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne 415 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 3: like when you're supposed to be working. 416 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 5: So my appreciation for an elite, elite passing attack a 417 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 5: whole nother level. 418 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 3: Okay, So what was it like joining the Ravens team 419 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 3: that was so veteran led I mean with guys that 420 00:18:54,440 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 3: you knew ed Reid ray Lewis promise thirty thirty seven, 421 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 3: thirty seven, wie roll yea el Carter Oh role was there, 422 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 3: he was Derek Mason, Derek Mason. What was it like that? 423 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 3: And that would never happen again? You'll never have that 424 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 3: thirty Yeah, I think it's. 425 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 5: That team and then that Washington team probably before that 426 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 5: when they brought off from veting, but uh no, that 427 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 5: that was. 428 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 4: It was incredible. So as a as a. 429 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 5: Rookie, you know, you go in and you know, I 430 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 5: kind of expect something similar to college in that you 431 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 5: know everything is going to be you know, organ organized 432 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 5: in in a way where you have to be on 433 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 5: this schedule, do this, you gotta do this, you gotta 434 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 5: with Billy, we the veterans kind of set the schedule 435 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 5: and what we were going to do. 436 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 4: And you know, I didn't. 437 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 5: I didn't even have to stay at the training camp 438 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 5: my rookie year. It was weird, Like I was like, 439 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 5: this is different. I'm not hindsight. I'm thinking about like, 440 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 5: dang was crazy. I mean I remember practices where you know, 441 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 5: and Raby like or I'd be like, hey, hey, coach, 442 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 5: this is that it was too sloppy, and it was 443 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 5: too sloppy. All right, weep, we're done. We'll come back 444 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 5: out here later. That's that's enough. Somebody gonna get hurt. 445 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 5: We're out here and then we'll come back put the 446 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 5: work in. And it was just crazy to see how 447 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 5: coach Billick worked with Ed ray J like the veterans 448 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 5: to put the team or set the schedule or do 449 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 5: whatever it was gonna or or whatever it's gonna be. 450 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 5: And so that was Yeah, that was special. I mean hindsight, 451 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 5: listening to other stories and how it was in other 452 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 5: places like that, was that was really special to experience. 453 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, we ain't never had none of that. Coach said, 454 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 2: get out there and go. 455 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: You gonna go? 456 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean it. What did you learn about 457 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 3: leadership being in those guys, being around those guys. 458 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 4: Saying saying the saying the necessary. 459 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: In college leadership? Yeah, then when you went to the NFL. Yeah, 460 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 1: completely different. 461 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 4: It is different. 462 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 5: Everybody. Yeah, everybody grown. They do their own thing and 463 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 5: that you know, I think the part of that is upstairs, 464 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 5: like knowing who you bringing in there, and then there's 465 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 5: there's a knowing who you can say what to, you know, 466 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 5: knowing who you can yell at or whatever or not. 467 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 5: But in the in the league, it was it was 468 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 5: like everybody's expected to just show up and do your job, 469 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 5: Like I don't. Yeah, it's not like uh college where 470 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 5: you need all these pep talks and you need coach 471 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 5: to you know, get in your ass on the time 472 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 5: and all that stuff. It was it's more, it's more work, bro. 473 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 5: It was like, you show up, do your job. Leadership 474 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 5: was more to me the guys that just showed up 475 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 5: and did what they needed to do and if somebody 476 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 5: was really struggling, like reach out and help. But apart 477 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 5: from that, it was lead by example more so than 478 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 5: burb like you, I don't I don't think you need 479 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 5: like a pep talk, you know at that point, like 480 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 5: you know how to get yourself ready for a game 481 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 5: and go get your I've done. 482 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 2: One of the things that I noticed when we played 483 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 2: music wasn't a big deal, and then when it finally 484 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 2: came out, everyone had chords and then they had to 485 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 2: put their the phone or whatever on their armp or 486 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 2: they pocket or they put it on the thigh or 487 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 2: something real quick. 488 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 4: And you got this longs yep, you. 489 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 2: Got this chord like this that you're trying it to 490 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 2: the way you're trying to move it around. At what 491 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 2: point did you know, like, yo, I want to create 492 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 2: a headphone. I want to get into this headphone business. 493 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 2: Because they had I'm sure I don't even know, Like 494 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 2: at what point did you know, you want to get 495 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 2: into the headphone business. 496 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 5: So the actual business didn't happen, or thinking like, oh, 497 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 5: this can actually be a business was twenty fourteen, okay, 498 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 5: prior to that. Prior to that, it was I just 499 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 5: had I had my problems with the headphone, yanking the chord. 500 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 5: That one fell off, I broke that one. I broke 501 00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 5: that one over there and this one. I don't want 502 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 5: to get wet in the pool, so I can't really 503 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 5: like go too hard, so I want to take my time, yea. 504 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 5: So in all those experiences, it was just like, man, 505 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 5: I don't want. 506 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 4: It in here. 507 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 5: I like I like over here is I like big bass? 508 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 5: I like the sound just closed off. So I love 509 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 5: that that that full immersive experience. And it was like, 510 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 5: why isn't there an over headphone that is more secure 511 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 5: than all of these headphones that are out here? And 512 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 5: that happened in the in the the little treadmill swimming 513 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 5: pool in Saint Louis, And so from there I went 514 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,239 Speaker 5: and sketched the design because the few that I had 515 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 5: broke flew forward and I was like, man, what if 516 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 5: the headband set back a little bit? And we added 517 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 5: we added some tension to it, but sitting it back, 518 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 5: I think gives you a point of contact plus the 519 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 5: two on the side that'll give you a little more security. 520 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 4: And so that's where the concept started. 521 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 3: You know what, you guys just take me back to 522 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 3: when I was trying to run out there with the cord, 523 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 3: and that was when the iPhone would break because the covering, 524 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 3: you know, I mean the sections on them weren't that great. No, no, like, 525 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 3: so the moment it hits was cracked. It's just that 526 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 3: was a bad place for me because that was the music. 527 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 4: Though, I mean, it's one of my music. 528 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: What of your music? 529 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 3: But that is a that's a very personal bad time 530 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 3: and I think I broke two or three iPhones at 531 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 3: the time. 532 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 2: Understand are they are they waterproof so or sweat proof? 533 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 4: As far as like so sweatproof, water resistant. 534 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 2: Water resistance, So what's just what's the difference between water 535 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 2: resistant and waterproof. 536 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 5: So water proof is the ability to take those headphones, 537 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 5: submerge them underwater for at least five minutes and they 538 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 5: still function. Okay, well really thirty you up to thirty 539 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 5: minutes and they still function. Water resistance is of the 540 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 5: ability to sweat or have the headphones be sprayed by water, 541 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 5: running in the rain or something like that. Water resistant, 542 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 5: and there's different levels of water resistance, but ultimately you 543 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 5: is needed to not crap out when you're sweating, and 544 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 5: if you want to run the ring, that's an option. 545 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 5: But waterproof is not possible because there's sound, and so 546 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 5: sound is basically moving air, and if air can't move, 547 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 5: you're not getting base. And so you would have to 548 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 5: completely seal the cavity to create a waterproof headphone. 549 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 4: But it will sound like you can do it, but 550 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 4: it won't sound good. 551 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 3: Hold on, so you pick up on all that because 552 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 3: I don't think. 553 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: I don't think. 554 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 3: I don't think I knew sound was just air like 555 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 3: yeah yeah, movement like movement. 556 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. 557 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 3: So it does make sense because like you really really 558 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 3: can't hear anything. 559 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: When you're underneath water. 560 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 4: Sounds like it's muffled, yes, yeah, yeah yeah. 561 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 3: So actually, okay, I get it. That doesn't make sense. Now, Okay, 562 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 3: you're connecting dots to me. And so for all of 563 00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 3: those that want to look at your headphones as a 564 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 3: different option, why. 565 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 5: Why Because anybody that has worked out, or has ran, 566 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 5: or has done anything active in an over your headphone, 567 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 5: and to this day continue to do so because the 568 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 5: over experience is a full, full, immersive sound experience. Anybody 569 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 5: that has done that has had the problems that I've 570 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 5: had and many of us have had with even just 571 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 5: a little of that and that circuit flying down there, 572 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 5: laying back right here, and that's circer flying over there. 573 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 5: But just when it comes to an over your headphone, 574 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 5: there needed to be a headphone that was designed from 575 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 5: the concept to a final that was for the active lifestyle. 576 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 5: And so our deal is anybody that today works out 577 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 5: in and over your headphone, we're for you. Like the 578 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 5: security doesn't only offer the ability to move more, but 579 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 5: it also gives you the ability to have a better 580 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 5: sound haul. And so what I talk about often is 581 00:26:55,560 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 5: passive noise cancelation. Everybody knows active noise cancelation, which is 582 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 5: done through some microphones or whatnot, But passive noise cancelation 583 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 5: is the result of a really good seal on your headphone. 584 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 4: And you get that with the. 585 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: Sorry. 586 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 3: Okay, so what because like you know, you always think 587 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 3: about scale when you have a business and you're starting 588 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,719 Speaker 3: up things, how do we we sell? But then all 589 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 3: of a sudden, how do we scale and I keep 590 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 3: hearing you and I guess I've never really thought. 591 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: About it that much. I just always did what was easier. 592 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,959 Speaker 3: But the actual overhead headphone, it's a total different client 593 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 3: than some that just prefer just the hearing. We had 594 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 3: this discussion in here before you came, because I didn't 595 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 3: realize how big of a difference to client. Tell is 596 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 3: that some people just like, no, I want this is 597 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 3: what I want, and some people like, I just want this, 598 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 3: And so how do you how do you get those 599 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 3: that probably don't want overhead to come over here and 600 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 3: once you try it, you're not gonna want to go back. 601 00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: Well. 602 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 5: Over your headphones is actually recently, in the last couple 603 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 5: of years is beginning to outpace in ears because things 604 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 5: like here for tig, you know, and you can wear 605 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 5: in ears and they're perfectly find which we have in 606 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:13,959 Speaker 5: heres too. 607 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 4: You know, we have a suite of product. But this 608 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 4: is this is you. 609 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 5: Know, for me, if you're going to go to market 610 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 5: and really playing this space is really hard, like you know, 611 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 5: having to start a business and building it is hard, 612 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 5: and so your market fit you need to go where 613 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 5: there is the lower barrier of entry. And to me, 614 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 5: in the over over ear space. There wasn't a there's 615 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 5: there's ones that people use and work out in, but 616 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 5: there wasn't one design to work out in. And so 617 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 5: that's that's where that's where we're entering the market. And 618 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 5: then all the products that will follow will be versatile 619 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 5: active products. And so so a person that wears in 620 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 5: the in ear that still deals with the inner. 621 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 4: Falling out, does it still happens. 622 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 5: You lose one, you break one, you step on one 623 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 5: because it failed right there, it still happens. Our message 624 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 5: essentially is the same. We're identifying with a similar pain 625 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 5: point and we're offering a solution that says, you know what, 626 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 5: we're gonna limit just all of what's happened with headphones 627 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 5: in falling or falling out or whatever it is while 628 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 5: you're being active. 629 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 4: And so that's what Live offers. 630 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 5: And so we can we can cross you know, platform 631 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 5: and go with the overer people and the inner people, 632 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 5: and we'll we'll pull some inner people you know into 633 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 5: the fold. But that's i was not our focus. We 634 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 5: have something for them too, which I just found another 635 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 5: pattern which is going to be really dope on an 636 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 5: in their piece. 637 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 2: So I want you to look into the camera right there. 638 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: Take ten seconds, fifteen seconds. Tell the people where they 639 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 2: can buy your product, the name of your company, what 640 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 2: it is that show camera. 641 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: Right there there? 642 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 5: What's up everybody? It's Mark Clayton, founder of Live Audio. 643 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 5: And you can go to liveaudio dot com and check 644 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 5: us out if you want to see a lot of 645 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 5: all our content that were put together. 646 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 4: Live Audio on Instagram. 647 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 5: And TikTok, Facebook across all platforms, but l I v 648 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 5: V audio dot com check us out. It is the 649 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 5: first luxury sport over ear headphone made for the active lifestyle. 650 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 2: Now where did you come up with the name of the. 651 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 4: Live so when? 652 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 5: So the first concept that I made, I thought it'd 653 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 5: be a good idea to have free runners, the parkour 654 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 5: guys that jump off stuff and do all the flips, 655 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 5: test it. Uh, And so I connected with because I mean, shoot, 656 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 5: you don't have an over here that stayed put. Are creative, 657 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 5: These guys are going to really push it to the limit. 658 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 4: And so I had, you know, a good group of guys. 659 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 5: And one of the guys still up with Jesse Leflair, 660 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 5: who he's a stunt double from Marvel Marvel. 661 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: He was this his real last name La Flair. 662 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 5: Like, yeah, for what he does. I'm like, Bro, your 663 00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 5: mom knew right, that's a great guy. I knew no, 664 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 5: But I had one of the guys in Miami. 665 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: Uh. 666 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 5: He was doing the past with the over on and 667 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 5: we talked after. I was like, what did you think 668 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 5: you ever thought you could do any of that well 669 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 5: with some over your headphones? Like no, it was crazy. 670 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 5: I just felt like I was just flowing. I could 671 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 5: just free flow. And it was just like I could 672 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 5: just I. 673 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 4: Was just living. And when he said living live stuck 674 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 4: to me. I was like, oh, like you just you live? Huh. 675 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 5: And from there it was just like, yeah, I think 676 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 5: live would be a good name. And then you know, 677 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 5: you get creative with it and as you think through 678 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 5: what the security and the over offers is more life, 679 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 5: the ability to kind of live freely from the distractions 680 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 5: from all of the things that we have all experienced 681 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 5: in an over ere and the inner headphones. 682 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: Well, let me be one. 683 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: Of the first to congratulate you on securing a million 684 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 2: dollars in funding. That's that's that's a huge accomplishment. I 685 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 2: don't even know, Like, so how does one go about 686 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 2: the funding? Is it just hey, you pitch it to 687 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 2: a company, a group individuals. 688 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: Ourselves, friends and family first. 689 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 5: And first, you know, I had to believe in it first. Yeah, 690 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 5: I had to you know, put up cash first. And 691 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 5: part of that where it was like, all right, I'm 692 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 5: in kind of you know, put uh steal cold to 693 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 5: my feet and it was like, let's get it, and 694 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 5: then you know, making sure. So hearing really like in 695 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 5: the beginning was like hearing people say no, but being 696 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 5: fortunate to hear guys tell me why they said no 697 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 5: really helped me craft and hone my message. And then 698 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 5: I saw, like you know, all every every pitfall or 699 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 5: every kind of you little space where I needed to 700 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 5: fill in the blank. I was able to fill it 701 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 5: in through connecting with people who would give you critical feedback. 702 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 5: And so as an athlete, we're built like that and 703 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 5: I'm like, no, it's I'm okay, thank you all right? 704 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 4: So what was it like? What did you think? 705 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: Like? 706 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 4: What do I need? What? What would make you say yes? 707 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: Right? 708 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 5: And a lot of those conversations helped me get to 709 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 5: the place where you know, not only was the product 710 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 5: in a good spot on the back end from a 711 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 5: development standpoint, but the business model was in a much 712 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 5: better place, and I understood, I learned, and so I started. 713 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 5: Twenty thirteen was kind of the first where oh Live 714 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 5: could be a thing, going back and forth to China, 715 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 5: dealing with industrial designers, dealing with fulfillment centers. Look at 716 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 5: I mean really, learning supply chain management ultimately is like 717 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 5: I just pay for an education post career in supply 718 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 5: chain management and product development and industrial design and marketing, 719 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 5: and I'm getting these experiences just because I'm trying to 720 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 5: get this headphone done, which was really cool. And so 721 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 5: now when I'm in a room and depending on who 722 00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 5: I'm talking to, I can speak to all aspects of 723 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 5: the business because I've actually lived it now. And so 724 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 5: that investment piece is really you're just you're just moving 725 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 5: and you know, there's investors, angel investors all over the place. 726 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 5: There's you know, other athlete investors, and and you're just 727 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 5: having conversations. You know, everybody asked you know what you've 728 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 5: been up to or what what are you up to lately? 729 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 5: What are you into now? And in that space is 730 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 5: you know the opportunity to kind of to pitch if 731 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 5: you will, and then you know, from there, either develop 732 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 5: a relationship that goes beyond what comes from an investment 733 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 5: or not, it doesn't matter. And I think part of 734 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 5: it that is that too. It's not you know, trying 735 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 5: to get the investor. It's looking for a good relationship 736 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 5: that will help spur you along that could lead to investment. 737 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 5: And so the first you know, Guy Mark Brian was 738 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 5: one of my first guys. We bet on a golf 739 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 5: course and so I always talk about golfing the value 740 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 5: of golfing and you know, being able to get on 741 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 5: a golf course and have conversations, conversations and at superb. 742 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 3: Sorry, you've got time you start talking about golf, getting excited, 743 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 3: get a little I could little ants. 744 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: A little antsy. 745 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 2: You're looking at Taylor like. 746 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: Squeeze in. 747 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 3: That's number one. Great job on the on the elevator pitch. 748 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 3: I can tell that you've practiced it. You watch yourself 749 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 3: in the mirror, do it? You all these things the 750 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 3: important things that you have to do when you start 751 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 3: out a company. How many times did you work on 752 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 3: this elevator pitch? Because I love the word in terms 753 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 3: that you use luxury brand, Like I'm telling you what 754 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 3: it is and you're not guessing I'm giving it to 755 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 3: you right now. 756 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 1: This is not just anything. This is luxury brand. 757 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 3: That is why the price point is where it is 758 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 3: because these are not average headphones. 759 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,720 Speaker 1: These are not just athletic used headphones. This is different. 760 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: This is different, tell me about it. 761 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 5: And so, as you know, in all of these conversations, 762 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 5: the cool part is when you get you know, somebody 763 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 5: who can see the vision and then their wheels their head, 764 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,320 Speaker 5: they start they will start spending. As to being creative, 765 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 5: and that is a huge part to like you said, 766 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 5: it's like a creator, you know, like being creative. It's 767 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 5: like creatives and everybody's creative. But sometimes it takes other 768 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 5: people to help bring out creativity in other people. And 769 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 5: so in a conversation, somebody will get going and be like, 770 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 5: oh man, well what about what if you called it this? 771 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,839 Speaker 4: Or what about that? Or what maybe we should get 772 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 4: it into this place. 773 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 5: And I get excited because I'm like god them like 774 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 5: we're in you see, like you see what I see? 775 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 5: Like now we're about to do something special, which is 776 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 5: the same with all all of our investors and you know, 777 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 5: all of our influencers and athletes that are with us. 778 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 5: But with with that piece is just like if I can, 779 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 5: if I can get you on the same page, then 780 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,359 Speaker 5: we're we're we're gonna be We're gonna be good together. 781 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 4: Like I'm we're gonna be great. 782 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 3: So where do you see this company in its future? 783 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 3: Like what is ultimately your goal? 784 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 5: My goal is to is to is to build it 785 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:25,240 Speaker 5: to a point it's to exit, it's to to still 786 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 5: kind of walk through my really walk through my my 787 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 5: product plan. I got a product roadmap that's really dope. 788 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,479 Speaker 5: I think I think there's a place for a lot 789 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 5: of advancements and integrations in the audio space, uh, headphones, virtuality, 790 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 5: a number of things, and so you know, getting it 791 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 5: to a point, exiting a bit, and then staying involved. 792 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 5: From a product standpoint, I love just concepting and designing 793 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 5: and I mean our in ears. I'm so excited that 794 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 5: we just last week without the patent on it, and 795 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,839 Speaker 5: so it's that's really cool. 796 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 2: That really so I want to see how creative you 797 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 2: are with this next one. You get four people, four 798 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:14,720 Speaker 2: picks of mount rushmore. People that have had influence, people 799 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 2: that have loved you, people that have poured into you, 800 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 2: people that have when you did something wrong, they kind 801 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 2: of got your right back on the path of righteousness 802 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 2: from the time you were born till right now. Yeah, yeah, 803 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 2: fourteen six. So who would those four people be? 804 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:38,319 Speaker 4: Just good? 805 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 5: And so let me see Grandma. 806 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 3: Mom. 807 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 5: Uh, those are the Grandma because she's shaped mom and 808 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 5: my mom is in my experience with my grandma was 809 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 5: was was so blessed. 810 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: And just the one that brought. 811 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 5: Praying Grandma, that's the one that brought me back. You know, 812 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 5: life is full of many little deaths and resurrections, and 813 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,720 Speaker 5: that was one of them. But now that that Grandma 814 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 5: that took to me back. Uh, and then my mother 815 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 5: obviously the roast she's played is like it's invaluable that 816 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 5: I'd say brit Venables walking in people school BV coming in. 817 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 5: It just completely shifted the trajectory of what. 818 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 4: Was going on. 819 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:41,359 Speaker 5: And then posts that I'd say, a guy named Dale 820 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 5: a lot. Uh, he's kind of walked with me into this. Uh, 821 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 5: he's just I got a half that one person through 822 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 5: and then this one has like half a face half 823 00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 5: of faith. One is Dale is the guy named Tillian introduction. 824 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 5: He's he's like a big brother pastor speaker. And then 825 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 5: Dell is similar pastor creator and so he's designer and 826 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:17,399 Speaker 5: then Tullan is just you know, period gospel U. But 827 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 5: those those guys are have been anchors just in terms 828 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 5: of me growing post career as a CEO, an inventor, 829 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 5: a creator as well as a man of God. 830 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: That's beautiful. 831 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 3: At what point did you start talking earlier in this 832 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 3: conversation you said, I didn't talk? 833 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: No, what changed for you? 834 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 3: Because you're not only a leader, but you're a business owner, 835 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 3: You're an entrepreneur. Like all the things that you have 836 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,359 Speaker 3: to speak on, you got to lead it. You gotta 837 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 3: sell it before anybody else buys it. 838 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 1: Like what changed for you? 839 00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 3: Because I look at you, I couldn't imagine you like 840 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 3: just being a non talker. And this was even in 841 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 3: throughout high school. You said that, Yep, what changed for you? 842 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 5: I think the more I did it, it was like 843 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 5: it was like it's not that bad. And then when 844 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 5: you know, kids or somebody else will come up and say, 845 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 5: I really appreciate what you said. I really appreciate that. 846 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 5: Like I was going through this and I needed to 847 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 5: hear that those moments were a part. Yeah, do is 848 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,919 Speaker 5: like you know, you get to what life is really 849 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 5: about and it's about connection. 850 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 4: It's about relationships. 851 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 5: It's about loving people, and that which is what I 852 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,080 Speaker 5: see through my business and the guys that you know, 853 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 5: our on the team we work, you know, work together, 854 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 5: want to love them, love their family as well, set 855 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 5: them up to do well. And we do that for 856 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 5: each other. And then you know, same with my family, 857 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 5: same in community. But speaking came from or just feeling 858 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,959 Speaker 5: more comfortable. Speaking was the fire that was put there 859 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 5: that I now know that the Lord uses me to 860 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,240 Speaker 5: inspire people, to encourage people, and to love people. 861 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 2: That's the beauty of a I think the beauty of 862 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 2: this podcast is the relationships that Rome and I get 863 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 2: to build with the guests that we have. And it 864 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 2: just we often say it all the time, like we 865 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,439 Speaker 2: get inspired from all the guests. We pull and take 866 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 2: something man from every single guest that we have that 867 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 2: you guys pour into us and by you sharing your story, 868 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 2: I can't thank you enough. Congratulations. You know, you got 869 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 2: the you got your headphones, and you got more things 870 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 2: coming up in your business. 871 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 1: More than. 872 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 5: Wife shout out, shut out, shut out wifey No. 873 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 2: But you just you seem like a solid dude who's 874 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,959 Speaker 2: got a lot of great things. Happening in his life 875 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 2: right now, and you put it in the work. You've 876 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,319 Speaker 2: done the work, and I'm really excited to see the 877 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 2: next season for yourself and your company and your family. 878 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,840 Speaker 2: And I'm just wishing you the best of lucks in 879 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 2: that in that next season. 880 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,399 Speaker 4: Man. I appreciate that, brother, no doubt. 881 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 3: Man. 882 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,720 Speaker 1: All I've learned is that encouragement matters. 883 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, it changed Mark Clayton's life. Do you may just 884 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,319 Speaker 3: have a young person who not even think about Hey, 885 00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,319 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. The encouragement piece is beautiful. So thank you, man, 886 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 3: appreciate your sharing. 887 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:30,439 Speaker 1: Mark. 888 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 3: And I hope all of our viewers and listeners really 889 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 3: enjoyed this podcast today and uh wherever and I want 890 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 3: to thank you guys for always tuning in. Make sure 891 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 3: you give us a five star rating, give us a 892 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:41,919 Speaker 3: wherever you pick up your. 893 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,240 Speaker 1: Podcast is Apple Podcast. 894 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 3: iHeart radio, and make sure leave us a review five stars, 895 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 3: like comments like subscribe or. 896 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,840 Speaker 1: Work. Yeah that word did it right? I get us 897 00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 1: out of it. 898 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 2: Check us out. Check out our NFL YouTube channel. You 899 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 2: can check us out all the good stuff. I'm Peanut. 900 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 1: That's Mark. 901 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,479 Speaker 3: And when I mess up on here, I don't say hey, cut, 902 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 3: let's start it over. 903 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: I just get through it. I treat you like live TV. 904 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,399 Speaker 1: We out, we out,