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Speaker 2: Look at us now, tip to tip. This is our life,

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Speaker 2: this is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to

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Speaker 1: I'm Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 2: I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat on July twenty fifth. My math

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Speaker 1: is right. Nineteen seventy eight, there was a man who

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Speaker 1: hosting a podcast with a very surly, gray haired man.

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Speaker 1: Forty four years later, that man, ladies and gentlemen, is

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell. I'm Luke Thomas. This is Morning Combat, and

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Speaker 1: not only is it Morning Combat here on this Monday,

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Speaker 1: it's the birthday of my friend and yours, the CTE

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Speaker 1: of ct There he is right there on the light

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Speaker 1: of your screen, to the left of me. What's up, Beacon,

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Speaker 1: how you doing bro? Happy birthday?

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Speaker 2: Yes, thank you, Luke for thank you to everybody who's

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Speaker 2: reached out in response to your tweet and our staff.

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Speaker 2: Forty four year Luke, this, any crisis is moving forward,

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Speaker 2: might hopefully will be of the midlife variety, now you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean. I'd love to live to eighty eight,

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Speaker 2: there's nothing I'd rather be doing on my birthday, Luke

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Speaker 2: than doing this show for the people. And a shout out

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Speaker 2: to MK superfan Lee Selker, Duke Wrestling product. It's his

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Speaker 2: birthday as well today. Happy fortieth to him, Walter Payton

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Speaker 2: Rip Stacey Montalto too, Luke. I went to seventh grade

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Speaker 2: with her.

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Speaker 1: It's her birthday to.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how she ended up though, you know,

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Speaker 1: You know, you know I have a summer birthday as well.

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Speaker 1: How did you always feel about summer birthdays? Because kids

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Speaker 2: No, I actually disagree with that. Having a you know,

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Speaker 2: you know, you're building towards Christmas, Luke. Right, as a kid,

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Speaker 2: you're only thinking materialistically, You're thinking gifts, you're thinking toys, right,

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Speaker 2: So your your your whole focus all year is staying

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Speaker 2: good for Christmas, Luke, especially when your parents don't tell

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Speaker 2: You know, especially when you can combine it with like

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Speaker 2: Baseball Hall of Fame. I've done a lot of great,

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Speaker 2: you know, July birthday trips, Luke. Okay, so that's much

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Speaker 2: You know, it's like, oh, we just had we just

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I had a very sad child. I

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Speaker 1: have you seen this shit. BC'SPCS plus your dms.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, it's a fruitful load of shit

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be fun today, Luke. Okay, hopefully you're gonna

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, I don't have any special elements

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Speaker 2: two Bro. But luckily you me Chuck Mindenhall. We filmed

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Speaker 2: I hear, I hear Luke. I hear soon, right, I hear.

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Speaker 1: So you have a segment called have you seen this Shit?

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Speaker 2: A real man has standards, he has lines, he has boundaries.

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Speaker 2: You cross those, you get cut. Bro Okay, you know

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Speaker 1: That's true, too sweet. This is that shirt right there

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it does it does? You know? That's the thing, Luke.

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Speaker 1: London's main event, A strange one. To put it mildly, BC.

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Speaker 2: I think he's gonna end up benefiting from it, Luke,

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Because he has the losses to Francis

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Speaker 1: He gets to maintain the interesting position in the rankings,

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Speaker 2: That's sort of where I agree with that now in

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Speaker 2: Look or to the absorbent? Either way, I sorbed it.

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Speaker 1: It was actually well above the knee, almost near the hip.

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Speaker 1: So hard to know, I tend to think when stuff

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Speaker 1: Again without knowing what the injury is, that's really hard

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't be ancidental foul because no foul was committed.

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Speaker 2: Do you consider Brent Premis having been the belatory lightweight

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Speaker 2: this not the fight you're willing to the battle you're

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Speaker 1: See that was that was nerve damage. I take that seriously.

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Speaker 2: Personally, Okay, what do you think we say about aspatall now, Luke?

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Speaker 2: I mean, what do you do? You just wish him well,

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Speaker 1: That's my only thing. Is I hope he's not out.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you a generic question about this event,

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Speaker 2: to say about coming back there and forcing another card

429
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Speaker 2: in and we're even going to the level of eventually

430
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Speaker 2: making London a major down the road. But would you

431
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Speaker 2: agree with me that this card, of course, that might

432
00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,760
Speaker 2: be the whole hum main event. Sometimes the undercard sizzle,

433
00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,560
Speaker 2: sometimes they just are blah, but overall this kind of

434
00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,520
Speaker 2: just I don't know, there was something magical about the

435
00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,399
Speaker 2: fight card three months ago. This felt very forced and

436
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,800
Speaker 2: it kind of took away some of that growing like

437
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:17,639
Speaker 2: UK UFC magic.

438
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Speaker 1: Luke it did because I gotta tell you, like, if

439
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 1: you watch like UK boxing events, they just feel uproarious

440
00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,639
Speaker 1: in all kinds of ways they did. I don't know,

441
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,200
Speaker 1: help me understand, BC. Maybe I'm wrong on this one,

442
00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:33,560
Speaker 1: but if I am, tell me and tell me what

443
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,120
Speaker 1: I'm missing when I watch Sometimes these UK boxing events,

444
00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,480
Speaker 1: sometimes the ones before the main event are ho hum

445
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 1: and the crowds into it or they're not. But but

446
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 1: once the crescendo of the main event starts where the

447
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,240
Speaker 1: walkouts began, and then there's the intros and then the fight,

448
00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,000
Speaker 1: it just feels like it all builds these huge moments.

449
00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 1: This one felt like, Okay, Patty had a big pop foreshore,

450
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 1: we'll talk about him, Molly had a big pop, fair enough.

451
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 1: There were some other ones that were interesting along the way.

452
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:03,879
Speaker 1: It just never felt like this one got out of

453
00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 1: second or third gear. For the most part, it just

454
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 1: kind of it didn't crescendo in that same way. And

455
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 1: I guess the wrestling. I think there was like one

456
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 1: stoppage on the on the prelim card, and you know,

457
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,479
Speaker 1: obviously the thing it would had a pretty dominant win

458
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 1: over Charles Rosa. But I don't know, like, am I

459
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 1: saying it wrong? Like why is it that the crowds

460
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,640
Speaker 1: at the boxing events feel a little bit more vibrant

461
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 1: And this one kind of felt that time's good, not

462
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 1: the same.

463
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,880
Speaker 2: And that's kind of what I'm saying. And again, maybe

464
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,120
Speaker 2: it was the unexciting prelimbs, maybe it was the whole

465
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,479
Speaker 2: um of the main event, but it didn't have that spark,

466
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 2: that energy, and turning around and coming back three months

467
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,919
Speaker 2: later was obviously built upon capitalizing on that. And they

468
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,880
Speaker 2: did get the three sort of favored sons and daughters

469
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 2: of this UK, you know, movement back in the cage,

470
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 2: and like you said, we got two wins, but I

471
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 2: don't know, it felt a little forced. And I'm gonna

472
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Speaker 2: make a statement here and look this conversation. I'm sure

473
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,959
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about Patty and Molly's wins in a second.

474
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 2: This conversation is definitely gonna come up. And have you

475
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 2: seen this shit? They almost have their own section of

476
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 2: the show. But Luke, this is a comment I've never

477
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 2: said before at many an Italian restaurant. Too much meatball?

478
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:12,399
Speaker 2: Look too much meatball, Luke, And that's it's hard to

479
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 2: say that and frame it properly and not be looked

480
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:15,640
Speaker 2: at as an asshole.

481
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 1: Again, it was it was a nice wind, dude. What

482
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 1: was wrong with the wind? The win? Was? We talk

483
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 1: I get to it on extra credit, Like what was

484
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 1: wrong with the win?

485
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,119
Speaker 2: Maybe it's the placement on the card. You know, she

486
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 2: didn't necessarily fought one of my favorite fighters. We didn't

487
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,880
Speaker 2: necessarily fight a main card fighter, so to speak. And

488
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 2: again we'll get into it. Have you seen this ship,

489
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 2: But the grandiosity and celebration, Luke, I don't think equal

490
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 2: the triumph or the I don't know, you know what

491
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,119
Speaker 2: I mean. She's a great sidekick for the Patty movement.

492
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 2: She's put together two exciting winds of her own. She's

493
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 2: a legitimate fighter. But I feel like she's getting carried

494
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 2: into this, you know, discussion of the takeover when I

495
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,959
Speaker 2: don't have the same belief in her long term success

496
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,199
Speaker 2: or ability as the other two in this. I think

497
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 2: that's fair.

498
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 1: I see these wins and her winever Hannah Goldie was nice.

499
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 1: It really was like she was from the word go.

500
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 1: She was ready to go. And she and again Hannah

501
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: Goldie is a limited opponent.

502
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 2: I think, what did I tell you? I said, no

503
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 2: head movement, you stand in trade with her? You' getting

504
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 2: knocked out right?

505
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 1: Yeah? And also, like Hannah Goldie, has I talk about

506
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,640
Speaker 1: this in extra credit? Dude, She's like real. She's obviously

507
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 1: super strong and super athletic, but her upper body is

508
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 1: like it's not fluid, Like there's a certain stiffness to

509
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: motion where McCann doesn't have Goldie's physique, but she's a

510
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 1: little bit more able to flow with it. Again, it

511
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 1: stands out for that reason, and so I just felt

512
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 1: like she was coming up short constantly. I think you're right.

513
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, but listen. This is how you build

514
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 1: a market. You build a market with people that the

515
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 1: fans care about, and sometimes the fans care about the

516
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 1: top level quality, which you know, Asmaal didn't show in

517
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 1: this particular case, but to this point has shown. Patty,

518
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 1: I think this was his best win by far in

519
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: the UFC, and one of his better wins in his career.

520
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: Quite frankly, we'll talk about him in just a minute.

521
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,439
Speaker 1: And yeah, McCann fighting, you know, someone who is probably

522
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 1: not long for the UFC. And then and how much

523
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 1: further can she go? I don't know, but I always

524
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: try to be the fairest I can be. Is I

525
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: can't react to what the fans like or don't like.

526
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: Like that that's a very separate equation. And the USC's

527
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: trying to build UK M M A which I'm further

528
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: along anyway, And I appreciate that. The win was nice.

529
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: The win was nice. She did a good job. She

530
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: executed from the word go. She dispatched an opponent who

531
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 1: did not belong in there with her, and she did.

532
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: She's she joins Herkardo homosh As, the only other UFC fighter,

533
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: was back to back, spinning back elbow. Ko was like, dude,

534
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: that's I'm not trying to take that. I hear your

535
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: point that there's people being like, oh my god, she's

536
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 1: gonna you know, I don't want Valentina Chevchenko. Yo, she

537
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 1: doesn't want Valentina hif Chenko. I don't know.

538
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 2: She she called Antonino, which is probably the right call

539
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 2: in her trajectory.

540
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: No, no, But I saw other people saying like, oh,

541
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 1: she's coming for, She's coming for, And I'm like, hey, hey,

542
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: slow your role.

543
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean she did party with Yanna afterwards.

544
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 1: But what I will say is did she go in

545
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 1: and turn in frankly, a very good performance. She did, Dude,

546
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: she did. I don't want to take that from it.

547
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 2: It's just it's like, look, it's like, you know, having

548
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 2: a go to comedic move among your friends that you

549
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 2: do in public, and it's you know, jumping over the cage.

550
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 2: Luke used to be reserved for like Connor McGregor, you know,

551
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 2: knocking out sever in front of Irish fans in Boston

552
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 2: and getting in Josie Aldo's face, right, or or like

553
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 2: Charles Olivera finally winning the title and jumping over and

554
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 2: going up to Dana and stuff. You don't get to

555
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 2: do that, or or maybe the London card three months

556
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 2: ago where we're here and we're taking it all and

557
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 2: all that. You know, yay, okay, you don't get to

558
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 2: do that after being hand of gold. He like, you

559
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Luca, that's my point. That's my point.

560
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that's not altogether unfair. But at the same time,

561
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 1: you know, this was probably going I mean, you know,

562
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: these are some of the better days of her life,

563
00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,959
Speaker 1: the better days of her career. I completely like, you know,

564
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 1: if this ain't this, ain't this, ain't Connor MacGregor jumping

565
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: out and screaming in all those face territory Now it's.

566
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 2: Kind of like if you have a great party trick,

567
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 2: you can't bust it out four times a party. It's like,

568
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 2: you know, if you're a one hit wonder band, everyone's

569
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 2: only a at the venue to see you play that

570
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: one song. You know what I mean? You can't play

571
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 2: it more than once? What are you an asshole? You

572
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Luke?

573
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:20,719
Speaker 1: I mean I was.

574
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 2: I was in a dance club in Jamaica on two

575
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 2: thousand and three, Luke called Bubbles. It was called that

576
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: because they'd fill the whole room up with foam. You'd

577
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 2: have like a foam party. And Luke, they played in

578
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 2: the club by fifty cent every half hour and the

579
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 2: DJ would be like, you want me to play it again?

580
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 2: We're like yeah, And you know, you could do the

581
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 2: math and argue whether I was too old to be

582
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 2: in that setting in two thousand and three, and I'm

583
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: okay with that, Luke. You know what, But the whole

584
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 2: point is like, I don't know, Luke, Okay, that's maybe

585
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 2: I'm just a crusty forty four year old asshole. Well

586
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 2: we'll talk more about this.

587
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: Certainly, that is true. I get your point. I get

588
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: your point that like there's a level of a claim

589
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: that's happening that isn't commensurate with the level of difficulty

590
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: of UH and the difficulty of achievement. Although I'll tell

591
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 1: you I was in Columbia once and I went to

592
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: this club called La Casa Blanca, like literally the White House,

593
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: like that's what they fucking called it, the White House.

594
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: And inside all of the staff were white, all of

595
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: the walls were painted white, and they shot smoke into

596
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,479
Speaker 1: the air in every room, which of course ended up

597
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 1: being white. And I'm like, I think you guys have

598
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: taken this bit a little too far, and sure enough

599
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: it went out of business.

600
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, fuck bubbles of it. And also, cocaine is white, Luke,

601
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 2: I hope that didn't extend to that.

602
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: I hope you doing a big joke there.

603
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 2: With I'm not doing a I'm not doing a nationality

604
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,360
Speaker 2: bit or or anything. I'm just saying, like, I hope

605
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 2: that wasn't the hook there, Luke, Like Studio fifty four.

606
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 2: You came there to do two things, Luke, Okay, one

607
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 2: of them.

608
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: Know what's also white? You? You? You are also white?

609
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 1: Just want to point that out?

610
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 2: White shit?

611
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, all right with that in mind. BC.

612
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 1: So that's what's up with Blades. We're talking about the

613
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: event more generally, let's talk about the weird ass cocaine

614
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: event on top of it. This was another weird one

615
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: where I was like, what the fuck is happening here? Okay,

616
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: Jack her Manson defeats Chris Curtis and did it without

617
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 1: a takedown, which I did not think would be possible.

618
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: I thought for sure he had to get the takedown

619
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: to win. I was wrong, but BC, Chris Curtis never

620
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: really cut him off, and at first he was flipping

621
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: him off when they read the thing and he took

622
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: the Twitter and he was like, I was prepared. I

623
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: should have prepared for a track meet, and then as

624
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: his emotions settled, he thought better of it and realized that, like, hey,

625
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 1: this is the fight game and that's the way that

626
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: it goes. So you know, I appreciate Chris Curtis mentally,

627
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 1: I should say, sobering up in that sense, But BC, like,

628
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: I can't quite make heads or tails of this. Did

629
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: Jack her manson stock go up or did Chris Curtis's

630
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: just go down?

631
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 2: Both? And I can make easy heads and tails of

632
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 2: this because I predicted despite the fact that her Manson

633
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 2: was an underdog, and despite that in each category for

634
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: the most part, we could have given Curtis the edge

635
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: on paper. But the reason why I picked her Manson

636
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 2: and The reason why I wasn't surprised that he ultimately

637
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 2: won this way is because he needed this win way

638
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 2: more than Curtis did. And Luke, if we're being honest

639
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 2: about the thirty five Curtis, who's been very impressive in

640
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 2: sort of having this late run to find out how

641
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 2: good he can be, he's been opportunistic of taking advantage

642
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 2: of this opportunity, you know, going in there getting big finishes.

643
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 2: I had a feeling Jack was going to be as

644
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: gritty as possible, and sometimes being gritty when you need

645
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 2: to win, Luke, means you're stubborn. You always think a

646
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 2: gritty as bite down, go in there and get into

647
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 2: a war. This was more about being stubborn. This reminded

648
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 2: me of Yan Blohovich getting the boring ass five round

649
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 2: decision over Ronaldo Suza at a time where he was

650
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: getting the close up the main event, trying to get

651
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 2: ready for a title shot. We wanted him to bust

652
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 2: through with the Polish power. Instead, he got a boring

653
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: takedown defense win because for him in that moment, it

654
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 2: was survive in advance. For Jack, in this moment, Luke,

655
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 2: it was survive in advance. I don't think it goes

656
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: negatively against his stock. Look at his run. What was

657
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 2: he three and three and his last six all against

658
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: pretty damn good competition at his age, Given how good

659
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 2: he is comparative to the record he's had of late.

660
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 2: To find a way to win, he found that way.

661
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 2: I think you can be dismissive of Curtis, not yeah,

662
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 2: like you said, not realizing the circumstances, leaning more into

663
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: the middle finger, why aren't you gonna fight me? Rather

664
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 2: than figuring out a way to get it done Because

665
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: of the way Jack fought against Strickland, made it so

666
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: close on the feet without needing the wrestling because it

667
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 2: got taken from him. I knew this was possible, and

668
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 2: I'll give him credit. Luke, he pulled it out. He

669
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 2: was stubborn, his shit. He doesn't care if you were entertained.

670
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 2: This wasn't what this is about. This is about getting

671
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 2: another Fight Night main event. This is about climbing the rankings,

672
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 2: It's about getting to that title shot. He did what

673
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 2: he had to do. I'm sorry it was a boring

674
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 2: s cole mane and maybe it played into the overall

675
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: letdown feeling of this card. But Luke, you know he

676
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 2: had a more exciting guy in front of him who

677
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: could do more things. He just played the angles, was

678
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 2: gritty and got it done. Dude. I take my head

679
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 2: off to him. You know what I'm saying. I'm not

680
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 2: saying you're gonna win fans or whatever, but sometimes it's

681
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: about winning, Luke.

682
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: I'll say this. I thought, here's where I was wrong.

683
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: I thought that for her Manson to win, it's not

684
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: that he couldn't win with striking, but that it was

685
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: sort of like Frankie edgar Ish, where it has to

686
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: be combined with the wrestling as a dual threat for

687
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: both of them to do what they want to be

688
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: able to do. And that wasn't the case here. I

689
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: will give credit to Chris Curtis. It is true that

690
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: the Judolpho Vieria fight was a good warm up in

691
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: the sense of takedown defense. Jack Hermanson could not get

692
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: a takedown. In fact, he went zero for six. Good

693
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: job by Chris Curtis stuff in the takedown. He clearly

694
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: was prepared for that. I will also say I thought

695
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: Jack or Manson did a really great job with Rhythm Disruption.

696
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: He was going first, he was maintaining distance, he was

697
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: throwing that high kick to occupy the left hand of

698
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: Chris Curtis constantly right and in the lateral movement and everything.

699
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: He was doing enough where Chris Curtis couldn't get into

700
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: a rhythm and a flow state. He did have some

701
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: decent bodywork, which he always does, but he couldn't really

702
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: make a lot of effective use of it by virtue

703
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: of the fact that he didn't cut off the cage

704
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: at all. He was kind of following and chasing a

705
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: little bit rather than throwing sort of strategic low kicks

706
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: in ways that would limit the potential movement side to side.

707
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: Jack Romanson and so Jack Armnson did exactly what he

708
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: needed to. He was on his horse. It was effective

709
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: lateral movement, it was good rhythm disruption, it was good

710
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: range management. If you had told me could he do

711
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: that for fifteen minutes ahead of time, I would have

712
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: Before the fight, I would have expressed some skepticism about that.

713
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: I would have expressed I don't know. I think that

714
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: Chris Curtis probably would have been able to cut him off.

715
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,959
Speaker 1: Now I think about it, like, why didn't Chris Curtis

716
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: do it? Maybe that's not one of his stronger skill sets.

717
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: He seems to be a little bit more boxing based

718
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: than kickboxing based as a striker. Something else to think about, BCS.

719
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: He does have one fight in the grander UFC octagon

720
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: when he fought on the Usman Covington card, when he

721
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: fought Phil Hawes, but Phil Hawes was kind of like

722
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: a come forward sort of guy, right, He didn't have

723
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: to chase him down. The other fights that he has

724
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: are in the apex, which is the smaller octagon. We

725
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: go back to this all the time. Man, There is

726
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: a real difference, not for every fighter every time, but

727
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: for many fighters many times. If your only experience is

728
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: in the practice room on an open mat or the

729
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: small cage, you don't have the right training or the

730
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: background in terms of what you might need for the

731
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: big cage in learning how to cut off and really

732
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: understanding that as a priority. Jack Armanson has a lot

733
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: of experience big cage, small cage at home wherever, so

734
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: he was really able to make nimble use of this.

735
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: It was it was not necessarily all that entertaining. I

736
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: could tell from them what the fans were saying, but

737
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: it was very effective. I don't here's the thing, b see,

738
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to be back on Jack er Manson.

739
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: He proved he could do something I didn't think he

740
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: could do, and I'm acknowledging I was wrong right up front. However,

741
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: did you get the sense that the guys he's lost

742
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: to by virtue of this performance, you think he can

743
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: now beat that? I did not come up with.

744
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 2: Not, I mean not necessarily. Did he show enough striking

745
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 2: prowess to yeah, to make that leap. No, but he

746
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 2: figured out a striking plan that would work and he's

747
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 2: stuck with it. So again, it was about surviving and advancing.

748
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 2: And I think Curtis, you you broke it down from

749
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 2: a technical standpoint, but I also think it's a mental standpoint.

750
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 2: I think he was playing with house money. I think

751
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 2: he was, you know, kind of happy to be there everything,

752
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 2: you know, everything was starting to come together, and he

753
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 2: just thought it would come to him and he would

754
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 2: figure it out like he'd done of late. And when

755
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 2: it when it didn't, he didn't have the plan B

756
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 2: and the adjustments necessary. So uh, I think it's more

757
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 2: praise for Jack in my breakdown than than negative praise,

758
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 2: you know, the negative comments at Curtis, But it is

759
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: somewhat equal in that regard, and I like your you know,

760
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 2: bringing rhythm disruption into the into the vernacular of this show. Luke,

761
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 2: I haven't seen rhythm disruption like that, and it's when

762
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 2: they except for when they had long dialogue and adult

763
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: films in the nineties. You know, I'm glad they got

764
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 2: rid of those parts, right, Luke.

765
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying you and I never understand

766
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 1: about adult films is why everyone breathed through their teeth.

767
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: Do you ever notice that?

768
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 2: Uh no, but I'll look out for it one day. Yeah,

769
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 2: thank you very much. You know I was more you know,

770
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 2: I see, I was a big cinemas and time an

771
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 2: HBO guy like most thirteen year old's, Luke. I mean

772
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: you remember Night Eyes one, two, and three with the

773
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 2: Andrew Stevens and Shannon Tweet.

774
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: Luke, what a franchise. I can't say that. I do.

775
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: I do remember Red Shoe Diaries, but I don't remember.

776
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: That all Right, A lot of people out there definitely

777
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: just woke up and you know, did the DiCaprio meme

778
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: of you know, BC, I was there with you, right,

779
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 2: not in the same room. That'd be a little awkward, right, So.

780
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: BC, you got Jack Hermanson sitting at eight. Hard to

781
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: say exactly where he might go from here in terms

782
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: of the ranking, because Chris Curtis was coming in off

783
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: short notice and is not ranked. And then Darren Till

784
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: where's Till sitting down? He was sitting at nine. So

785
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: this was eight verses nine, or at least it was

786
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: supposed to be. I should say eight verses nine. Here's

787
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 1: the problem. Number seven is Sean Strickland, who recently recently

788
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 1: ish beat Jack Hermanson. So if you're Jack ar Manson,

789
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: I get your point. Okay, I didn't. I didn't lose

790
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 1: to an. It would have been to the point you raised,

791
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 1: it would have been real bad for Jack er Manson

792
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: from a ranking standpoint, at a bare minimum to lose

793
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: to an unranked guy. But the guys ahead of them

794
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: BC Sean Strickland, Paulo cost To, Alex Paeda, Derek Brunson,

795
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: Marvin Vatory, Jerry Kennedy or Robert Whitaker. I don't know

796
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: if which one of those he's gonna get. Sean Strickland

797
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: just got Kayot already has a win over and Pola

798
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: has quickly. We're un through it. Paulo Costa has the

799
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: bout with Luke Rockold coming up. We'll see how that goes.

800
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: Paeda obviously he's gonna fight Izzy at some point. I

801
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: guess Brunson is sitting out there. That's one you could

802
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: potentially do. Vittoria. I don't know. Kennan here just lost,

803
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: and then Whittaker is gonna fight Vittoria. Sorry, Victoria and

804
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: Whittaker are gonna fight in Paris or soon or after wherever.

805
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: That's supposed to be what happens next.

806
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 2: He should fight Darren Till because Darren Till's name is

807
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: much stronger than his recent track record improven ability of late,

808
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 2: especially since moving up to middleweight. You get a win

809
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 2: over Darren or you get to fight dar Until. It's

810
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: probably gonna be a main event, maybe even be in Europe.

811
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: You know, he's been pushing to get on the Switeen

812
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 2: card coming up. I mean, I'd like that as the

813
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: main event. The whole point here is that Darren Till

814
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: is a little bit of a celebrity still at this point.

815
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 2: I think that that's more valuable to him than trying

816
00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: to move a little bit higher and fight the next

817
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 2: race name who's coming off a loss, who's got some

818
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: no fight till I still think it's a matchup that

819
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 2: that that to some degree he can do well in, Luke,

820
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 2: And I think it's more it's more valuable to get

821
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 2: a win at this point over a name like that

822
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 2: than anything else. I mean, you know, he could fight bruntson,

823
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 2: but we all kind of consider Bruns is now going

824
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 2: the other way, Luke.

825
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: Although he did, he did have a nice win streak

826
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 1: there for a while, but it did get derailed fair enough. Okay,

827
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 1: how about this one though, One more of these, A

828
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: couple more of these. Actually, what about a Jack Hermanson

829
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: versus the guy who won big at UFC two seventy

830
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: six over you Ryah Hall. What about Andre Knees?

831
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 2: Knees you could, Luke, you could.

832
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: You can kind of have grappler grappler there a little bit.

833
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 2: I mean it's not like Jack is in a position

834
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 2: where he has a lot of leverage in this regard.

835
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 2: But that kind of feels like a step back, Luke.

836
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 2: He wants to get back in. He wants to make noise. Luke,

837
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 2: you fight me your knees, you're kind of probably buried,

838
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 2: you know, Like the second fight in the main card

839
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: on a fight night somewhere. You know, you fight till

840
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: you're the main event, Luke. Okay, that's what I'm talking about.

841
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, all right, So let's talk about the

842
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: guy who I frankly thought was the star of the show,

843
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: right at least it turned out that way, Patty Pimblet.

844
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: This was a good win by him. This was a

845
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: very good win by him. I had debated, and I

846
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: think you did on Friday, like, I'm not sure if

847
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick. I'm not sure how much confidence I

848
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: think both of us in the end decided Pimblet was

849
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: the guy. He secures a second round rear naked choke

850
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: victory over Jordan Levitt. You could maybe argue Pimblet or

851
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: Levitt won the first round based on Levitt not doing

852
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 1: a lot of damage but having a lot of control.

853
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: But let's ask the question this WAYBC. What did Patty

854
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: Pimblet prove on Saturday.

855
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 2: I think he continued to prove coming off of the

856
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: submission win in the last fight, something that I sort

857
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: of speculated, because look, you and I were a little

858
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 2: bit negative toward him when he launched on the scene.

859
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 2: We saw and tasted and smell much more hype than

860
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 2: actual product. We saw the opening and vulnerabilities and danger signs,

861
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 2: but something happened since then, Luke two straight wins in

862
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 2: which he was able to show a different side of him,

863
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 2: more well rounded him. But I think if you look

864
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 2: specifically on this camp, in this fight, he came in

865
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: an elite, world class, almost championship level shape. So Luke,

866
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 2: I do think it was a little bit of sort

867
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 2: of like negative fools goal that we built, that we

868
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 2: bid upon when he came and made this debut. Because

869
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 2: he was talking such a big game, almost McGregor liked

870
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 2: to a degree, and because he showed the vulnerabilities, we're like, oh, dude,

871
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 2: he's gonna get stopped when he finally gets in there.

872
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 2: He might be something I speculated last week, a wolf

873
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 2: in sheep's clothing, right, you know, he might be a

874
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 2: lot better than he may have shown, you know, And

875
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: some of that may be nerves. Some of that maybe

876
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 2: he just got in, tried a little bit too hard

877
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: to land the big thing, and got you know, beat

878
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 2: up a little bit in the first fight, but got

879
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 2: the comeback win. It seems to be part of his

880
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 2: DNA to figure out how to come back after somebody

881
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 2: takes an early advantage that just maybe who he is.

882
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 2: But Luke, it took me, you know, the last week

883
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 2: in progress to do it. But after this fight, I've

884
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 2: come around. He's a lot better than I gave him

885
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 2: credit for potentially being coming in. I'm really exc given

886
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 2: the potential of his marketing side, what he actually could be.

887
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 2: I still don't know. We you know, there's still no

888
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: way to know. It's incremental, right, and he's gonna get

889
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 2: probably a continued incremental push. I don't think you're gonna

890
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: see him, you know, against a top ten guy tomorrow.

891
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 2: But he's backing it up, Luke, and he's tough for shit.

892
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 2: And if he can handle himself on the ground like

893
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: he did the last two fights against higher level opponents

894
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 2: to offset the magic that he brings to the striking

895
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 2: game with his you know, intention and power, yeah he could.

896
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 2: He could actually live up to it and be a

897
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 2: real thing, Luke. You know what I'm saying. I mean,

898
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 2: where as it looks right now, could he be Darren

899
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: Till You're damn right? He could, Luke, he could be him.

900
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 2: He could be on that level. He could get there.

901
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's going, how enviable position do you?

902
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this, Darren Till wants fought

903
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 2: for a title. He's still a celebrity in there. He

904
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 2: still fights only elite guys. For the most part. What

905
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 2: I'm saying is, I'm now in my own personal where

906
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 2: is Patty Pimblet's ceiling. I'm pushing up the roof a

907
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 2: little bit more, and he's showing me in the right

908
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 2: sort of incremental step ups that that that he may be.

909
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 2: He may be pretty damn good, Luke, and I may

910
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 2: not always be here for the stick. And I get

911
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: a lot of people d m me SABC, it ain't

912
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 2: a stick. This is what guys like him, where they're from.

913
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 2: That's who they are. Okay, that's cool, right, guys like

914
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 2: from this factory town, that's who we are, right pieces shit, No,

915
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 2: So you know that just may be who he is.

916
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 2: But the shtick doesn't always win me over. But here's

917
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 2: the key, Luke, the fighting is actually starting to win

918
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,439
Speaker 2: me over. Speak to that mister technical, right, Luke. He's

919
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 2: not that bad dude, He's pretty damn good.

920
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: Uh. Well, this again, So this was in some ways

921
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: a tough matchup because you had another kind of tricky grappler,

922
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: and in other ways it was an advantageous matchup because

923
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: two things. One, as we had noted, Jordan Levitt doesn't

924
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: typically bring that like physical intensity to the bout. He's

925
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: much more of a like he has that inverted triangle

926
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: over Matt Sales that was he just kind of trickily applied,

927
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: So he doesn't bring this away the same intensity. And

928
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: he's not really much of a striking threat at this stage.

929
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,479
Speaker 1: And in fact, there were times where he was throwing

930
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: and Patty was kind of flat footed. To me, the

931
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: bigger questions about the striking defense of Patty's game were

932
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 1: not answered here at all. They weren't really really questioned

933
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: one way or the other. But to just dismiss that

934
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 1: because he got a nice grappling win, to me, he's

935
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: very foolish. I would not do that until he really

936
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: answers it against someone who can try to put it

937
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: on him in that way. The questions linger number one.

938
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: The second thing I'd say though, is I thought this

939
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: was a very good win in the way that he

940
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: finally got it where he kind of had that half

941
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: like choke applied from the side of a failed takedown attempt.

942
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: Is able to get his hook in, trap the arm

943
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: and then since the other arm on the other side

944
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: and then fully lock in the choke. That was very,

945
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: very nice. Now, we've always known that Patty has good

946
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: back attacks. I talked about it on Friday. He's known

947
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: for taking the back and his good back attacks. They're

948
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: only getting better. That part of his grappling game is

949
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: very good, very very good. This again, that's a real

950
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 1: nice win that he got. However, if we're being fair,

951
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: the amount of control time that a guy who's not

952
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: really in like a drive forward wrestler in the way

953
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: that Jordan Levitt is. You know, I didn't love that

954
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: so much. He got three and a half minutes of

955
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: control time and Patty stuffed a bunch of takedowns in

956
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 1: that first round, but Levin got three of them in

957
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: the first round and some decent control time. It's like, dude,

958
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: against a guy who's like a real good wrestler in

959
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: this division, that's not a great sign per se, to

960
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: be honest with you. Now, the flip side of that

961
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: argument in BC is well, he endured it, he didn't

962
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 1: get into too much trouble and by the time that

963
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: guy tried it in the second round, having gassed himself,

964
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: he took his back and choked him out. Fair enough, dude, Again,

965
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: he beat a qual He beat the very best opponent.

966
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: I think he's beaten in the UFC by a landslide,

967
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: and maybe one of the better fighters in all of

968
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: his career. It's a nice win. But I think people

969
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 1: are making a little bit of a mistake to say

970
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: the win was nice for some very identifiable reasons. Therefore

971
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: we can forget about all of the other lingering questions

972
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: that didn't really go answered here in this contest by

973
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 1: virtue of how nice the win is. I would caution

974
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: strongly against that. That seems like a big mistake. I

975
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: don't think we should make.

976
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 2: Well, don't don't misinterpret my sudden turn of optimism and

977
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 2: even slight favor to me saying that all the you know,

978
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: check marks, all the ey's and te's have been handed. No,

979
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 2: but I had a pretty to be fair Luke upon

980
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 2: his arrival, had a pretty low expectation of who we

981
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 2: can actually become. So maybe it's a course correction that that,

982
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 2: you know, a self course correction, and I think it is.

983
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 2: But he's starting to win over in the cage and

984
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 2: that's where it's gonna matter the most.

985
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 1: Luke, Okay, maybe first of all, First of all, again,

986
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: I want to say this, he survived all the wrestling attempts,

987
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: he'd never got into too big of trouble, and eventually

988
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: when that guy tried to keep doing it, he choked

989
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 1: him out from there. Like that's a very important thing.

990
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: But you can't look the other way on some of

991
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: the bigger striking questions. And you can't look the other

992
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: way that like the takedown defense not as ironclad as

993
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: it needs to be. If you here's the thing, if

994
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: you really want Patty to be able to contend like

995
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: this is, let me let me go back to this

996
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: here very quickly if I can be seen so this

997
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: fight as it took place, right, this was a lightweight contest.

998
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: Ask me what armand sar Yuki and Matteous Gamrot are

999
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: gonna do to Patty Pemblin. Right, that's who we're talking about,

1000
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 1: and those guys Manteo's Gamroots inside the top ten, armand

1001
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: sar Yuki in is not like this is what I'm

1002
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: talking about. If you want him to be able to

1003
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: contend with those guys, there is a lot of development

1004
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: that has to happen before you can get there. His

1005
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: slickness on the back cannot be understated. He is very

1006
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: good in finding the back, attacking from the back, and

1007
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: finishing from there. He's legit, legit, legit, legit. But I'm

1008
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: trying to tell you, look at all the other other

1009
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 1: fuckers in front of him in this division. You need

1010
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: to see more than what you saw to give you

1011
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: confidence against the sar yuki Ins, the Kuta te Lozzi's,

1012
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: the Gamrots of the world. I think I think that's

1013
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: pretty fair, is it.

1014
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, definitely, And obviously the built in inevitability is

1015
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 2: that he's too popular not to start matching him sooner

1016
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: than later against elite foes. But as long as they

1017
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 2: can stretch this out, giving him the ability against the

1018
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 2: right incremental opponents to stretch out his own game and

1019
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 2: add to it, maybe it's a longer play. Whereas in

1020
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 2: the beginning I thought it was a short play. Let's

1021
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 2: let's throw this firecracker in the middle and let it

1022
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 2: self gebust and we'll all enjoy it. Now, Luke, I

1023
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 2: think it's a little bit of a longer play. And

1024
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 2: although that rarely happens, in UFC matchmaking. Again, this might

1025
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 2: be the guy to do it right. You know, you

1026
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 2: had that market, he could be the face of it.

1027
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 2: And maybe with Aspinall's injury, where Aspinall had a much

1028
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: further ceiling than the three of them from the UK

1029
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 2: that keeps showing up on these cards in terms of

1030
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 2: potential title opportunities, maybe him taking a step back within

1031
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 2: is gonna make the need for Patty to show that

1032
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 2: he really is that good. Uh even more importantly, Luke,

1033
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 2: I mean you know I saw the little exchange of

1034
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 2: him afterwards saying, man on my dream, I can't wait

1035
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 2: to have John Anna call my fight. How far away

1036
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 2: are we from that? I'm not necessarily talking about the

1037
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 2: level of step up in competition, more about the placement.

1038
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 2: How do you promote him moving forward?

1039
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: Luke, I think you continue to give listen. They are

1040
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: matchmaking him appropriately. The first two guys, they wanted to

1041
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: see exactly what they had, the Kazuola of Argus and

1042
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: even forget the other guy who he fought. They were

1043
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: appropriate fights. They were a little bit over match, but

1044
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 1: they got his feet warm. This was a good test.

1045
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: Jordan Levitt is a tricky grappler, and Patti Pimblet choked

1046
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: him out from the back in the second round. That's

1047
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: a nice win. That's a real nice win. All I'm

1048
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: pointing out is you need several more of those steps

1049
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: before you're at dude. And number listen. Listen to who

1050
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 1: eleven through fifteen is in this division Tony Ferguson, Connor McGregor,

1051
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: Which okay, I mean I realized that, you know, those

1052
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: fights are not imminent or anything, but you got Jalen

1053
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: Turner sitting at fourteen, Armansayuki in at ten, demere Isma

1054
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 1: Gulov at fifteen, to those guys are ahead of him,

1055
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: and they're ahead of him by a considerable distance. All

1056
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: I'm trying to ask people to do is it is possible,

1057
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: and I think the right way to look at it

1058
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: is to appreciate this dude beat a very tricky grappler

1059
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: by taking that guy's best effort, letting him tire himself out,

1060
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: not really getting a whole lot with it, and then

1061
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: finishing him off in the second round. That's nice, dude.

1062
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: You can't take that from him. That's nice. That is

1063
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: not evidence that he is ready for the sar Yukians,

1064
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 1: for the Isma Gulavs of the world. There are a

1065
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: few more steps to answer the question. I do think

1066
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: he'll be on pay per view cards. What I think

1067
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna do is probably put him on like main

1068
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: event of the pre Limbs to start or something like that,

1069
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: right like somewhere where see ABC exactly. He's like perfect

1070
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: for that because listen, the fans love him, he is exciting.

1071
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: He's three fights in the UFC, three finishes, right Like,

1072
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: this dude is out there giving you what they're asking

1073
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: him to do. There's no reason to not lean into that.

1074
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 1: But that is not the same thing as saying, oh,

1075
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: he's ready to fight arvinsr yuk. No, that's like not

1076
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: where we're at at all. And I just want folks

1077
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 1: to understand everyone develops at their own pace, Everyone develops

1078
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: in their own time. Give him the space to develop

1079
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: so he can be the best that he can be

1080
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: and then maybe fight guys like that, and then maybe

1081
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: beat guys like that, and maybe who the hell knows

1082
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: how far he can go. That's all I'm saying. Also, BC,

1083
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 1: we should note that post fight speech he made was incredible,

1084
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: truly incredible. It'd be very dishonorable of us to not

1085
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: talk about it. Michael Bisbein puts the microphone in his

1086
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: face and you know what he want to say, and

1087
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: he notes he had lost a friend of suicide. He

1088
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: talked about how men in particular need to be more

1089
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: open with their feelings and talk about things, and this

1090
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: is something we're not doing enough of. I thought that

1091
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: was smart of him to say. I thought that was

1092
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: insightful of him to say, and I thought kind of

1093
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: brave to be honest for him to say something like that.

1094
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 2: Fully agree with you. I mean, obviously it came about

1095
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,399
Speaker 2: ninety seconds after he stuck his ball bag on Levin's face,

1096
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 2: So you know, you do take with a little grain

1097
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 2: of salt, although you know we all have multiple sides

1098
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 2: to us. But yeah, to take that platform in that

1099
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 2: moment and instead of you know, calling out somebody exciting

1100
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 2: that he thinks he can beat or whatever, talking about

1101
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 2: his after party, to take that stand and share something

1102
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 2: that's heavy on his heart. But you know, look, I mean,

1103
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 2: you know, we got corny T shirts for pregame preview

1104
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 2: that say real talk like men, do you know what

1105
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 2: real talk is? Among men? Sharing those feelings? Asking you

1106
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 2: you know, your buddy, your brother, your best friend, how

1107
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 2: you're really doing so anytime that stigma can get overturned,

1108
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 2: whether it's people like MoU Rinalo fight in the good fight,

1109
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 2: shout out to him, or you know, even us with

1110
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 2: this platform, Luke, Yeah, I'm behind that, and and you

1111
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 2: know that does It's funny, you know, if that's a

1112
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 2: battle he wants to fight publicly, it's gonna make him

1113
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 2: a babyface in the fan's eyes, just as much as

1114
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 2: his ability to get into skirmishes and kind of rally

1115
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,040
Speaker 2: and come from behind also does, Luke. I mean, some

1116
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 2: people are gonna come just for the hair and the

1117
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 2: dancing and the trash talk, but he has legitimate grassroots

1118
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 2: to potential to be a true full on babyface as

1119
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 2: it comes to pay per view marketing and who he

1120
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 2: may become commercially down the road because of some of

1121
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 2: these things. Luke, you fight through challenges and get through

1122
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 2: people are gonna love you. You stand up for something that

1123
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 2: not everybody's talking about when they should like this topic.

1124
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 2: You're also gonna win people over rightfully.

1125
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: Solid, Yeah, no doubt about it. And listen, I saw

1126
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 1: people going after him being like, oh he's once said

1127
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: this on Twitter and he once said that on Twitter,

1128
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: and it's like, I'm not telling you any one of

1129
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: us has to be fully accepted for all the things

1130
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 1: we've said or done. But that message, that message he

1131
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: delivered in the platform that he used to deliver it

1132
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: is going to be incredibly helpful for someone out there,

1133
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: even if it saves one person mission accomplished. And I

1134
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: just hope folks really understand I'm not I'm in a

1135
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: sport where I see the world differently than most of

1136
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: the people in the sport. But that doesn't mean that

1137
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: we can never find common ground. That doesn't mean that

1138
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: we have to always say, well, because they're different, we

1139
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 1: can't like them, or vice versa. What we have to

1140
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: do is find important ways. Not so much to like

1141
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: some bullshit kumbaya come together thing, But what I mean

1142
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: to say is, here is an important message that could

1143
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: apply to a lot of different people in a lot

1144
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: of different context. It would be foolish to try and

1145
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: judge someone on the totality of who they are and

1146
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 1: then disregard this message. As a consequence, accept the message

1147
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: for what it is, which is helpful, smart, brave of

1148
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: him to do it, and frankly rather insightful as well.

1149
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,720
Speaker 1: I commend him for it. It was it took big balls

1150
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: to do that after it to your point, he had

1151
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: already leaned them on Jordan Levitt after he got a

1152
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: nice win. That was ab He was the star of

1153
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: the show. Would you agree, like of anybody who delivered

1154
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: on expectations And then, frankly, I would say with that

1155
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: post fight speech exceeded them. Patty Pemblet came off a

1156
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: plus on Saturday Night.

1157
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, I'm happy to be wrong on some

1158
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 2: of these things with him, Luke. So it makes me

1159
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 2: very excited to see him again, see what the level

1160
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 2: of competition is, see what the setting is, given that

1161
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 2: he's getting a lot of eyeballs. Yeah, I'm intrigued to

1162
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 2: find out who's gonna fight next, Luke. And no, it can't, dude,

1163
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 2: it can't be like Sir yuki In or Gamra. Let's

1164
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 2: give him time to develop, Luke. I'm sorry, at the

1165
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,720
Speaker 2: end of the day, no matter what job or situation

1166
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 2: you're in, if you can sell, if you could if

1167
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 2: you're marketable, whatever, if you're a good look at I mean,

1168
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 2: there's all these factors that come in, you're gonna get advantages.

1169
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 2: He's going to get built in advantages because of his

1170
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 2: personality and the show that he puts on. I don't

1171
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 2: think we should always look at that as negative necessarily, Luke.

1172
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 2: As long as you're you're if that if that advantage

1173
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 2: that you're getting is slower matchmaking, it is what it is, Luke.

1174
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 2: All Right, they got a ranking system, doesn't mean they

1175
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 2: go by it when they pick out who gets the

1176
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:47,959
Speaker 2: next title shot.

1177
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Yeah, But also here's what

1178
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: folks also fail to realize. The promoter can do you

1179
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: favors and sometimes should do you favors on that level.

1180
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 1: We both agree, but you would also agree probably right

1181
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: me see that at some point point they can't. At

1182
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: some point there is only so much help that the

1183
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,240
Speaker 1: promoter can give you the rest of that job. Again,

1184
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: when that time comes is up to the fighter. I

1185
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: talk about this all the time. They're like, well, Connor

1186
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: never fought Edgar, Dude. They played Connor exactly the right way.

1187
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: They gave him enough time, enough time, enough time to

1188
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 1: work on his game, work on his game, work on

1189
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: his game, promote have big wins before he ended up

1190
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: taking the Chad Mendes fight where he was injured anyway,

1191
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: and he wins it, then he has the Aldo fight

1192
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: and whatever. But the point is, once he got to

1193
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 1: that in the Ady Alvarezz and everything, there was no

1194
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: going back. There were gonna be no easy fights after that.

1195
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: There were gonna be no we can hide you in

1196
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: this corner of the top ten or hide you in

1197
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: this corner of the top five. At some point that

1198
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: train comes to a stop. So my only like entreaty

1199
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: to the fans would be is for folks are like, oh,

1200
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: why is he fighting someone better? Blah blah blah. It's

1201
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 1: all bullshit. At some point he will have to. At

1202
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 1: some point he will have to, but that's not right now.

1203
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: He doesn't need it right now. Chill out. Let them develop, And.

1204
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 2: Let's be fair. How much you like a particular fighter's

1205
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: character or the shtick they put out does fuel at

1206
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 2: the end of the day, whether you think they should

1207
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 2: get advantages or not because of these same things. So

1208
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 2: if it's a fighter that we don't like their stick

1209
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 2: or we don't think they're that good, we might say

1210
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 2: the complete opposite. But at the end of the day,

1211
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 2: it's a business, dude, it's a business. It's entertainment.

1212
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: All right, so it is you know, let's see le's

1213
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: that in MINEBC. Let's talk about and we on extra credit,

1214
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: we'll get to Gustafson, which kind of is in along

1215
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: the lines of the conversation we're about to have. Now

1216
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 1: let's talk about Beltore Beltore Twoity three. Now there were

1217
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 1: some high notes for sure at Beltore Twoity three, and

1218
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: in fact, Jason Jackson defeats Douglas Lima via unanimous decision

1219
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: I believe, I don't think it was split. I don't

1220
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: have it in front of me, but okay, this is

1221
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: the fourth loss in a row for Douglas Lima. And

1222
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 1: at first it was up a weight class to Musasi. Okay,

1223
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: not the end of the world. Then it was to

1224
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 1: Amasov back at welterweight, but Amasov appears to be incredible,

1225
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 1: so that's not the end the world. Then it was

1226
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: to MVP, and you're like, okay, he previously beat MVP,

1227
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: but MVP is improved. But now it's Jason Jackson, who

1228
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: is no scrub, but not a guy who has been

1229
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: in that same atmosphere as the previous three, and he

1230
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: still loses. And he came out in the first round

1231
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 1: BC with blistering leg kicks. I'm like, okay, this is better.

1232
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 1: But then Jason Jackson got the takedown, Douglas Lima locked

1233
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: up full guard and that was basically the bout from there.

1234
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: So the question is is it time for Douglas Lima

1235
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: to hang it up?

1236
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 2: Always a tough question in this spot. Always hard to

1237
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 2: make that statement when somebody isn't getting the crap kicked

1238
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:39,439
Speaker 2: out of him, and he did not get the crap

1239
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 2: kicked out of him in this fight. But the lifelessness

1240
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 2: is a is a pattern and it's a bad pattern.

1241
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 2: And let's look back on the end of Tyrone Woodley's run.

1242
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,720
Speaker 2: You know, it's like we always want to rescue people

1243
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 2: when they're taking too much damage, but sometimes people are

1244
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 2: taking too much damage in fights that they're competitive. He's not.

1245
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,919
Speaker 2: He's not competitive. Second, you're right, his back hit the can.

1246
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 2: It's sort of like he just got triggered and went

1247
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 2: back into you know, no urgency. All right, I'll just

1248
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,280
Speaker 2: sit here until the end of the round mode, which

1249
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 2: is only going to get your hurt in the long

1250
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 2: run on the elite level. So should he walk away,

1251
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 2: I think you should take time, as anyone in the

1252
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 2: spot where they're not too old, there's still something there.

1253
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 2: But if that's something isn't fueled with legitimate desire, then

1254
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 2: you're just going through the motions. You're putting yourself in

1255
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 2: a position to get hurt, and also for the whole

1256
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 2: entertainment promotion side of it, you're putting out kind of

1257
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 2: duds like this. Now, it doesn't mean Jason Jackson didn't

1258
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 2: work hard lead into his strengths and didn't and isn't

1259
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 2: the reason that Lima got suffocated in the end. He

1260
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 2: was Jason Jackson is ready for a title shot. He's

1261
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 2: on a six fight win streak. But unless Lima wants

1262
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 2: to take time off and then you know, try a

1263
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 2: resurrection at middleweight or seek out only fights against big

1264
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 2: names unless it's something like that. But remember a time

1265
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 2: off in between should be there, right, You should sit back,

1266
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 2: rest your mind in your body and really ask yourself

1267
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 2: those serious questions of do I actually want to do

1268
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 2: this anymore? If there's not going to be that break,

1269
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 2: then no, he shouldn't fight again because these are These

1270
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 2: are warning These are major warning signs failure launch, these

1271
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 2: are major warning signs. This is not a sport to

1272
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 2: be lingering when you're when you don't have that same

1273
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 2: drive to get yourself through it, right when when trouble

1274
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 2: comes and he's still good enough not to take beatens.

1275
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 2: You didn't take a beating here, although he got cut up.

1276
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 2: I watched the fight obviously, but you know, no, it's

1277
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 2: gonna need a time off. It's going to be a

1278
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 2: look in the mirror that's necessary. I don't think he

1279
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 2: looked in that mirror the last few fights, Luke. I

1280
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 2: don't know. Personally. I'm not trying to take shots at him,

1281
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 2: but I'm saying it seems in retrospect like it was

1282
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 2: a little bit more like, oh, let's ignore this, let's

1283
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 2: try to do something to get us back going again

1284
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 2: and get back to this level. Well that's something didn't work. Okay,

1285
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 2: So now it's it's it's the important crossroads moment for Lima. Uh,

1286
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 2: but I think you should take some time because running

1287
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 2: right back into a fight at middleweight or what have you,

1288
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 2: there's nothing to gain here right now. Okay, there's nothing

1289
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 2: to gain. You're gonna there's gonna be this all over again,

1290
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 2: or you're gonna get in a war where somebody you

1291
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,919
Speaker 2: shouldn't Okay, so yeah, Luke, it's tough talk time for Lima,

1292
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 2: a guy who I love and respect, and just like

1293
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 2: two years ago, you know, we were legitimately saying, is

1294
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 2: he among the two or three best fighters in the

1295
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 2: world at this weight class? And I think he was, Luke,

1296
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 2: He's not that guy anymore.

1297
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: So I have a few thoughts on this. I think

1298
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: generally I share your analysis, and I think it was

1299
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: as well said the way you said it. I think

1300
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: what I would add bec is a couple of things.

1301
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 1: I have talked to fighters who retired, and everyone's got

1302
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: their own little journey about the end and what it

1303
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 1: looks like and whatnot. But I've talked to some where

1304
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: they said at the time they didn't realize it was

1305
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: the end, or didn't know it was the end, and

1306
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: then after they retire they were like, oh, yeah, I

1307
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: was done long before that. I just didn't not even

1308
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: so much in denial. They just they didn't even they

1309
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: couldn't put themselves in a spot to realize that. You

1310
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 1: have to understand something about these guys, right. That's one

1311
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: thing that I always surprises the fans is how sensitive

1312
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: the fighters are to like verbal criticism. And it's like

1313
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: how can that be right? Because they're the toughest guys

1314
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 1: on earth. I'm not Douglas Lima per se, but sort

1315
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: of generally speaking. But you got to remember something, man,

1316
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 1: these guys live and die in their own minds, right

1317
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: in their minds to do the stuff they have to do.

1318
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 1: And like, oh, I like getting up to train, but

1319
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 1: like that's somewhat simplistically stated. They have to in tough

1320
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 1: spots for years, for years. They have to brainwash themselves.

1321
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: They have to brainwash themselves that they can push through

1322
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 1: a workout, that they can push through pain, they can

1323
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: push through what might be a promotional entity not getting

1324
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: their back, or some media figure saying something mean about them,

1325
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: or the fans lighten them up on Twitter, or whatever,

1326
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: whatever the difficulty may be. And they do this for

1327
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: months on end, and then years on ends, and then sometimes,

1328
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 1: in the case of Douglas Lima, for more than a

1329
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: decade plus. They have convinced themselves over time that that's

1330
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: how their minds should speak to them. And of course

1331
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 1: you do want to give yourself positive affirmation, but they

1332
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: do it to an extreme degree, to where the point

1333
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: where that the results don't match it. They don't know

1334
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 1: how to square that. They don't. They don't know how

1335
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: to understand themselves anymore between what their brain is telling

1336
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: them and what their body is showing them. And I

1337
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: think it tells you that there can be a gap

1338
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: between those in interesting ways. There's actually some research that

1339
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 1: sort of indicates that the body sometimes knows about trauma

1340
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: and doesn't want to experience it, and before the mind

1341
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 1: fully cognizantly recognizes that. And I think that you know,

1342
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: who knows if that's where we are, but it sort

1343
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 1: of feels something similar as happening here where he is

1344
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: trying to will himself past these moments. And again I

1345
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: agree with you take time off and then reassess, and

1346
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 1: then we'll see where we are, and then you can

1347
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 1: make a better call. Like at a bare minimum, Gustafson

1348
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 1: taken off two years. I thought it was the right idea,

1349
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:43,959
Speaker 1: take some time off, see how you feel. It didn't

1350
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 1: work out, but that was probably not a bad idea

1351
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: to do it in the way that he did it.

1352
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 1: I think that's the first thing I would say is

1353
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: that it's very hard for them to recognize when the

1354
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 1: end is here because all they've ever had is go, yes,

1355
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: you can do it. You can power through, you're the best,

1356
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: you can do it. That is hard to unwind after

1357
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 1: fifteen plus years of having that wash over your brain.

1358
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 1: The second thing I say iSBC, and you know this

1359
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 1: from boxing as well, Like, what are the signs when

1360
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: someone has done It's when they don't really throw back, right,

1361
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: they just stay a little bit here or there, they're

1362
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: moving around, They might be defensively shelling up, they don't

1363
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: really throw back. Here's what's kind of funny, man, Go

1364
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 1: watch Douglas Lima's fight with Ben Askrin back when Beltoor

1365
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 1: is run by Boren Revenue back in the aughts. Now,

1366
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 1: he gets taken down and controlled in that fight. But dude,

1367
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: like Douglas Lima is a black belt in jiu jitsu,

1368
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 1: he was aggressively hunting submissions on Ben Askrin in that fight. Dude,

1369
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 1: here he just locked up full guard and didn't do

1370
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 1: really anything with it. This is a guy who has

1371
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 1: a good a very good guard, a legitimate black belt

1372
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 1: in jiu jitsu, has had it for some time, and

1373
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: he's not really attacking from there. That's a bad sign

1374
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: to me. That's a bad sign about the kinds of

1375
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 1: things you should be seeing So I think I share

1376
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 1: your assessment generally, which is, let's take some time off,

1377
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 1: figure something else out, and then when you know enough

1378
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 1: time has passed where you can really be to grapple

1379
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: with what's happening, make a call one way or the other.

1380
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 1: But dude, if he keeps going like this, he's not

1381
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 1: getting beat up now like he will if he keeps going.

1382
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 2: And look, burnout is real, and it's it's also hard

1383
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 2: to walk away when you were the three time champion,

1384
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 2: just won the it's not that long ago he won

1385
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 2: that World Grand Prix, and then you know to to

1386
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 2: I mean in this there's two total fights in this

1387
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 2: four fight losing streak, so he's so close to the

1388
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 2: top still that it is hard. But now you got

1389
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 2: four losses in a row. Now it's time to look internally.

1390
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 2: And it reminds me of the end of Sugar Rashot

1391
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 2: Evans's UFC career. Luke Kevin talks so many times with

1392
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 2: him introspectively on the air in my old podcast in

1393
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 2: times of this one of like, you know, he's it's

1394
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 2: like something's wrong. I don't know what it is. I

1395
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 2: can't figure it out. But yet yet I feel when

1396
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 2: I walk in there like everything's going to go right,

1397
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 2: and then it goes wrong and I can't do what

1398
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 2: I thought I was gonna do. And yeah, it's a

1399
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 2: major warning sign. I mean, I don't want to see

1400
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 2: Douglas Limauld take two or three more losses to figure

1401
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 2: this out. I want to see him figure it out

1402
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 2: right now. And look, you know, maybe a year and

1403
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 2: a half later, you might come back, reborn at a

1404
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 2: higher weight class, have success figure it all out. I mean,

1405
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 2: this is this is a great fighter we're talking about.

1406
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 2: He's just he's he's not fighting great anymore. Though, So

1407
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 2: shout out to Jason Jackson. Now we can't let that

1408
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 2: go by.

1409
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 1: Look it's it's gonna get it.

1410
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 2: It's title talk or nothing. Now you heard him in

1411
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 2: that post fight.

1412
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 1: Interview, right, So here's the thing, though, this is the

1413
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: problem for Jason Jackson. Amasov, who is Ukrainian, is no

1414
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 1: longer on the front lines. He's back in Germany training,

1415
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 1: which is good news, great to hear that, But you've

1416
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 1: got interim champion, so to speak, Logan Storly, who's out

1417
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 1: there story and Jackson, for folks who don't know, are

1418
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:42,479
Speaker 1: teammates and like friends. By the way, So what's gonna happen,

1419
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 1: because you would imagine they're gonna by the way, if

1420
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 1: you never saw it, Oh, you are in for a treat.

1421
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 1: One of the best beltar fights I've ever seen in

1422
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 1: terms of the wrestling and the scrambling. Amasov versus Storly

1423
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 1: one is fucking incredible. So I guess they're gonna run

1424
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 1: that back or what BC? Are they gonna wait for

1425
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 1: Amasov and maybe have Storly defend his interim title against Jackson?

1426
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 1: How's this gonna work? Well?

1427
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 2: Jackson's words before and also after this fight, we're pretty consistent.

1428
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 2: He loves the logan story. They're great teammates, They're both

1429
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 2: willing to fight each other. They'd prefer it be for

1430
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 2: the full title. So I think in this case, and

1431
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 2: that's the right spot, that's the right attitude to have, Luke,

1432
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 2: because if you're gonna be on a super team and

1433
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 2: they both are, you're gonna run into people in your

1434
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 2: division and your promotion. It's gonna happen, okay, and you

1435
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 2: hate to see when it breaks up teammates and friends

1436
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 2: and all that. And I do think with Amasov back

1437
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 2: in camp already and or back working out, and you

1438
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 2: know what do you think three four month camp with that?

1439
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 2: If it's that short of a turnaround here, you make

1440
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 2: the storly fight. In my opinion, I think it's better

1441
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 2: for them potentially as friends to Luke, and then hey,

1442
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 2: if Story wins the rematch against Amasov and you're not

1443
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 2: needing an immediate trilogy, if there's not any circumstances connected

1444
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 2: to it, then then it's Story versus Jason Jackson and

1445
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 2: that's the deal. But he's in a great spot. And

1446
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 2: I even liked even with Big John push and saying, Okay,

1447
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 2: well what if you hadn't fight somebody else, and he's like, well, look,

1448
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 2: MVP's busy, so there's nobody else. I agree with him,

1449
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 2: there is nobody else, Luke. I don't know how quickly

1450
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 2: MVP can turn around from a bare knuckle pay per

1451
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 2: view against Mike Perry, but I think that's the right

1452
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 2: way to go. Run back the rematch Jackson gets next,

1453
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 2: let's do it.

1454
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 1: I think that's right. I would agree a good win

1455
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 1: from Jason Jackson, but as good as it was best

1456
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 1: name on his resume, I would argue, by far, there's

1457
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: still a little bit more to prove right, and getting

1458
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 1: back to that Curtis Blades conversation, it was good. He

1459
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 1: did his job fair enough, but he didn't prove in

1460
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 1: this one that we can affirmatively declare. He's like, oh,

1461
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 1: he's gonna give Amasov all kinds of trouble. I think

1462
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 1: something in between has to happen or he's got to

1463
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 1: wait for a while, which sucks, but yeah, that's kind

1464
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 1: of the reality of things.

1465
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 2: BC.

1466
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 1: How about the Okay, so we said Pimblet was the

1467
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 1: star of the show at UFC London, I'll tell you

1468
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 1: who the star of the show was for me at

1469
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 1: Delatore two eighty three. It was uspin nermerkat Madoff, who

1470
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 1: made short fucking work of Chris Gonzalez, and I saw

1471
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 1: people being like, oh, he's a can. Chris Gonzalez is

1472
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 1: not a can. He is a former wrestler himself out

1473
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 1: of Team Alpha Male, a physical specimen. Usmannerberga Maydov is

1474
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 1: just that good. But here's the funny thing, right, you

1475
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: had Sydney Outlaw who was supposed to fight Patricky Pitbull

1476
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 1: for the title. He ended up taking a short notice

1477
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 1: contest against Tefique Musayev. Musaiev ran through Sydney Outlaw, who is,

1478
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 1: as it stands today, the number one ranked Belatore lightweight contender.

1479
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 1: Uh sitting there. He just made him look like he

1480
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 1: was nothing. Musaiav has a win in rising over Patricky

1481
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 1: Pitbull so BC. Who should be next? The Belatore newcomer

1482
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 1: who got the win over the number one contender or

1483
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 1: Usman Nimbergamadov who should fight Patricky next?

1484
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 2: I think it should be to Fiq Mussaiev, And I

1485
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 2: don't think there's a I don't think there's a concrete answer.

1486
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 2: You can debate either way, and Belto has got an

1487
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 2: interesting scenario in front of them. And by the way,

1488
01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 2: part of the reason why I say Jason Jackson wait

1489
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 2: for the full title is what just happened to Sydney

1490
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 2: outlasts to fight for the titles you mentioned. Instead wants

1491
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 2: to stay on the card and get the payday and

1492
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 2: stay busy after putting the camp power, you know, more

1493
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 2: power to him. By the way, only they brought in

1494
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 2: and a debuting hammer in to Fique Mouseiev and he

1495
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:16,719
Speaker 2: lived up to that in what twenty or thirty seconds?

1496
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 2: So I mean it was a So here's the deal,

1497
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 2: he's he's kind of hot right now, and with that

1498
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 2: storyline of him having being the last guy to beat Patrichy,

1499
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 2: I say you do that, Luke, because here's the deal.

1500
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 2: This is really Nermaga Metov stepping up to a good

1501
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 2: level for the first time. Slow roll that a little bit, okay,

1502
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 2: And if it ends up being Nermaga Metal Versustfique Mosa,

1503
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 2: then then you know there's a few different hammers that

1504
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 2: are gonna collide there, Luke. So I think it's still

1505
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:47,600
Speaker 2: a little bit. It's like you're a running out of

1506
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 2: time for usuman in to micro Metal. It's like, what

1507
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:51,719
Speaker 2: else could you give him here? He looks to be

1508
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 2: better than everybody in the division more or less, you

1509
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 2: know what I mean. And this is a division that

1510
01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 2: could have aj McKee in it, so long term, yeah,

1511
01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 2: I want to see that fight, believe it. But Mosai

1512
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 2: has that in and that's having beaten him, And could

1513
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 2: you ask for a better debut than stopping the number

1514
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 2: one contender in twenty three seconds or whatever? No, So

1515
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:11,639
Speaker 2: I'm okay with waiting just a little bit longer. But yeah,

1516
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 2: Uswandermuckamedov so far as everything we say is, Luke, I

1517
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 2: don't see how you can watch this, watch these fights

1518
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 2: and not see that he's gonna get there soon enough.

1519
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 2: So no need to.

1520
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 1: Rush it, Luke, fair enough, you don't have to rush it.

1521
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 1: I guess I'm more interested in his upside given his

1522
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 1: undefeated record, although Massiah has fought many more times and

1523
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:33,839
Speaker 1: so that's going to naturally probably produce more visibility around

1524
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,640
Speaker 1: his deficiencies. But you can see the highlight here the

1525
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 1: outside trip to the ankle pick to the front headlock

1526
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 1: with the underhook to the power guillotine or some folks

1527
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 1: call it a ninja choke, and the way in which

1528
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 1: he did it is just it is just the timing

1529
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 1: on that is remarkable. The control is remarkable, and Musai

1530
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 1: have look good against Sidney Autlaw dispatched him and I

1531
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 1: the fight barely last at any length of time. In fact,

1532
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:00,799
Speaker 1: I have it here he defeated him at twenty seven

1533
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 1: seconds of around number one. Sidney Allo had nothing for

1534
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 1: a fatigue tofique Musayev. So because there's history there, I

1535
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 1: could see the argument he came in unranked, but that's

1536
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 1: not really telling the full story obviously, So if they

1537
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 1: want to do a rematch between Musaiah and Pitbull in

1538
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 1: Belatore and then give Nimber Gameydov like one more guy

1539
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 1: to really sort of like just be sure I wouldn't

1540
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 1: hate it. But I'm telling you now, you know, I've

1541
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:30,440
Speaker 1: been largely in agreement about this. I think uswin. Nimbergamydov

1542
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 1: is gonna wear gold around his waist sooner or later,

1543
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 1: maybe this year at the latest, twenty twenty three as

1544
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 1: good as musaiav is, and he's very good. Nimber Gameydov

1545
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 1: is awesome. At least he's twenty four were gifted, yeah,

1546
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,719
Speaker 1: and twenty four years old. He's a hammer.

1547
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 2: He may wind up winning title belts in multiple promotions. Luke,

1548
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:51,679
Speaker 2: who knows who the heck knows?

1549
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 1: Dude, he might. All right, that is it for our

1550
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 1: Top five BC. But we are not done obviously. Now

1551
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:58,759
Speaker 1: is the time when the fans get to ask us questions.

1552
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 1: It's time for old DM from the diggity dogs.

1553
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 2: Uh he haw, he haw. All right, we've.

1554
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 1: Burned through these. If we can, We've got mail viewers.

1555
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 1: Did they play the did they play it? I can?

1556
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 1: We can?

1557
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:13,679
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, I don't know.

1558
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 1: All right? From at Roger Castro seven. What is more

1559
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 1: likely to happen within the next three years Pattie Pimblet

1560
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 1: winning a UFC title or Luke giving up vaping.

1561
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 2: God, I hope the latter, Luke, although it's provided us

1562
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 2: with such comedy. But do you have a vape in

1563
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 2: front of me?

1564
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 1: My trash piece of ship thing?

1565
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 2: I do, But I mean I'm reheating coffee all day, Luke,

1566
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 2: and that's so less w T than what you're doing.

1567
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 2: Do you have it in front of you? Can you

1568
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 2: show the people? If it's within arm's length right now,

1569
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 2: then you've got a problem. God, you're holding it the

1570
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 2: whole show you absolute wow wow. I mean, look the

1571
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 2: towns you lived in in Georgia during your really your

1572
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 2: formative years, your your your transition from teenager into man.

1573
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 2: Were those dub T towns.

1574
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 1: I mean they all had their share of it, but

1575
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:13,280
Speaker 1: I would say that I wasn't super exposed. Okay, so

1576
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 1: one of them was. I used to live in Nashville, Georgia,

1577
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 1: super dub t, I mean dubt to the you know, exponential,

1578
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 1: all right, and then I lived uh Or. I went

1579
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 1: to school briefly in uh in Tifton, Georgia, Dubt. And

1580
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 1: then I went to school in Valdosta, which does have

1581
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 1: Please don't misunderstand me, Lownce County is just I mean

1582
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 1: a wash in Dubt. But I wasn't overly exposed to

1583
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 1: them where I was. And then I was in Marietta. Wait, even, dude,

1584
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:39,680
Speaker 1: all of Georgia just as Amy crawling with Dubt. It's

1585
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 1: like you, but it got like but Mariette has also

1586
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 1: got like a real like old Southern aristocrat, you know,

1587
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 1: good old boy network kind of to it. So it's

1588
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 1: not in that same kind of way. But yeah, there's

1589
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:57,680
Speaker 1: definitely you know. I once had someone told me they

1590
01:12:57,680 --> 01:12:59,640
Speaker 1: love to mix red wine and seven up. I was like,

1591
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 1: get the out, Luke.

1592
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 2: If you can make a prediction right now given your

1593
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 2: addiction level, when do you drop drop the douche douche

1594
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 2: stick what.

1595
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 1: I'm like, almost I got close to stopping recently. I'm

1596
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 1: gonna say twenty twenty two. I think by the end

1597
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty two.

1598
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 2: Okay, douche flu Thank you Long Island, Luke, that's.

1599
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 1: All right? At O'Reilly seven four zero two. Asks which

1600
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 1: fans are better and more passionate the UK or the

1601
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 1: Irish fans or just for Luke, do you prefer to

1602
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 1: hear fans sing Zombie or Sweet Caroline? Now, the Irish

1603
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 1: are very protective about this. The Irish believe that they

1604
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 1: are the very best fans and to their credit, at

1605
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 1: a bare minimum there, you know, one B or two,

1606
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 1: like a bare minimum. So what do you think, BC,

1607
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 1: who is better? I like Sweet Caroline? I mean, just

1608
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 1: fucking bash the speaker with a fucking baseball bat every

1609
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 1: time I hear it. But Zombie is amazing, and I do.

1610
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 2: Like because I heard I caught Sweet Caroline on the

1611
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 2: on Sixties on six or whatever the hell that channel

1612
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 2: is on serious On the way home the other day,

1613
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:05,759
Speaker 2: Luke and I kind of rocked out for a moment.

1614
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, you know, for a for a prime

1615
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 2: sixties pop song, Like that's as good as it gets.

1616
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 1: Dudeyeah, no, wonder you like thor Love and Thunder You're

1617
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 1: a zero.

1618
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 2: But you know it's been ruined obviously to a larger degree.

1619
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 2: But Luke, I'm gonna say something that's probably gonna They're

1620
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 2: gonna probably denounce my Welsh citizenship because you know I've been.

1621
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 2: I've been after the fact. You know I'm welcomed in

1622
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 2: Wales right now, Luke. Okay, they're my people, Okay, aren't

1623
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:33,680
Speaker 2: they relatively the same UK? To me? When I think

1624
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 2: of fight fans Irish and UK, they're like neighbors. They're

1625
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 2: all the same, Luke, right, I mean Northern Ireland is

1626
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 2: in the UK. Yeah, they're they're all like you know,

1627
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 2: I know that's crazy. People are gonna hate me for that. Yeah,

1628
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 2: all them white guys look alike. Yeah, probably not. Don't

1629
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 2: forget guys. I'm an ath Irish Okay, so I'm allowed

1630
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 2: like Mike Perry, I'm allowed to disrespect my people. Okay,

1631
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 2: but no, Luke, I'm kidding on that. Who's more passionate?

1632
01:14:59,080 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 1: Well? UK?

1633
01:14:59,600 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 2: For back?

1634
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:03,759
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think for MMA the answer is the Irish.

1635
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 1: But I do think for boxing from what I have seen,

1636
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 1: don't kill me Irish people. From what I have seen,

1637
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:12,640
Speaker 1: I think the Irish are better MMA fans. That's what

1638
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 1: I would say.

1639
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 2: Okay, do you have any respect for the Scottish, Luke?

1640
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 2: I know that's UK, but do you have respect for them?

1641
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 1: Like?

1642
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 3: What do you?

1643
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:18,599
Speaker 2: Us?

1644
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 1: USC has been to Glasgow, They've had some decent shows there.

1645
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 2: No you personally for your tolerance of people from the

1646
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 2: UK and Ireland. Do you have a power rankings and

1647
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 2: you know between Wales, England, Scottling.

1648
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:32,600
Speaker 1: I don't have a non sense, so I don't have

1649
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 1: a strong sense of like Welsh identity, and Scotland is

1650
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:38,679
Speaker 1: one place that my wife and I want to visit.

1651
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 1: She's my wife finally went to England for the very

1652
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 1: first time in her life. But she went to London

1653
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 1: and she was blown away by it, although she said

1654
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 1: the food sucked a fat one, which is true English food.

1655
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you fucking zero's over there, have no idea

1656
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 1: what good food. They have very good Indian food in London.

1657
01:15:56,120 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 1: That's about it. It fucking sucks. So I don't know

1658
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 1: much about the Scottish beyond that except that they're very friendly.

1659
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 1: I love their accents and I'm curious to see like

1660
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 1: Edinburgh and stuff like that. So yeah, I don't know.

1661
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 1: I don't I don't have a power ranking in that way. Like,

1662
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 1: but if you're asking me, like where I want to

1663
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 1: visit next inside the UK, I would say Glasgow, Lasco,

1664
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 1: Edinburgh that kind.

1665
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 2: Now you badly punted calling your dad American the other day. Really,

1666
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 2: you know, but do you know where you're where you're uh,

1667
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 2: where the dad's side of your family has originated.

1668
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:30,759
Speaker 1: Historically, like if you trace it very far back England.

1669
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 2: So these are your people, you're you know, these are

1670
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Luke. But you and Eddie

1671
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 2: Hearn are one and the same, all right.

1672
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, not the same. I appreciate them for who

1673
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 1: they are, but we're not like the same. I'm an

1674
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:47,879
Speaker 1: American douchebag and they're they're UK fuckers.

1675
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:50,880
Speaker 2: So I got a Scottish last name, Luke. Okay, you

1676
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:52,719
Speaker 2: know what I mean? So maybe they maybe they'll welcome

1677
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 2: me there.

1678
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 1: They oh they're nice. Actually they're pretty friendly. But we'll see.

1679
01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 2: They could probably smell my French Canadian side. I know

1680
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 2: they can. They probably don't want.

1681
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 1: Do you claim more identities you know nothing about, like

1682
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 1: when it's convenient for the jokes. You're Lithuanian. I can't

1683
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 1: wait to tell me you're Chinese one day. This is

1684
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 1: gonna be Oh.

1685
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:12,639
Speaker 2: Come on, I mean you know we already did that, Luke. Okay,

1686
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:13,879
Speaker 2: we don't need to get back.

1687
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,679
Speaker 1: There, right right, fair enough, fair enough? All right? From

1688
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 1: at ant nacc NAC. I don't know what strategy would

1689
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 1: you employ if you were Nate Diaz's coaches, to give

1690
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 1: him the best possible chance to win versus Tremaiav. I

1691
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:29,639
Speaker 1: have no fucking idea shank him, Luke?

1692
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:33,639
Speaker 2: Got illegal weapons? Please? Something you know? Please? Brass knuckles

1693
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 2: inside the tights? What do you got for me here, Luke?

1694
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 3: No?

1695
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 2: No, seriously, let me ask you this one foundational question.

1696
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 2: Should Nate do nothing but try to get Tamaiav into

1697
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 2: a brawl? Should that be the only focus? Yeah?

1698
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 1: I think so. I think if you just wait around,

1699
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 1: you know, and kind of like slow play it, that's

1700
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 1: only gonna make it worse. I think you Okay, do

1701
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 1: we have proof that Tremiav can be baited into fight

1702
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:04,680
Speaker 1: in an undisciplined brawling way. Yes, we do, and Nay

1703
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 1: Diaz can strike. He does have I think, respectable power.

1704
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 1: I think you just got to take it to him

1705
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 1: right away, like what Krilov did to Gustafson. Obviously very

1706
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:15,680
Speaker 1: different circumstance, but just go right at him. Just go

1707
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 1: right at him and see what happens. And if it

1708
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:21,719
Speaker 1: ends quickly, it ends quickly. But the downside of letting

1709
01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:24,600
Speaker 1: that one slow play is bad. It don't like it.

1710
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 1: At all.

1711
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 2: I don't think I've can you recall seeing Nate just

1712
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 2: go for broke, I mean, just come out, start a fight,

1713
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:32,600
Speaker 2: fully offensive.

1714
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 1: I don't you know what I mean, just I'm trying

1715
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 1: to think.

1716
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:41,639
Speaker 2: I mean, he's always offensive, but he's you know, sometimes

1717
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:43,720
Speaker 2: he can be the counter striker. Sometimes you can kind

1718
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 2: of weather your early storm. You know. He tends to

1719
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 2: kind of try to get you after you've emptied the

1720
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 2: tank a little and try to take advantage of that

1721
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 2: and jump on.

1722
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, which I mean could that work against your mind?

1723
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 1: It's certainly possible. Just seems a little bit unlikely, But yeah,

1724
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:01,799
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's not It's it's a tough listen.

1725
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 1: It's a tough assignment. It's a tough assignment for anybody,

1726
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 1: especially if our thirty seven year old guy whose skin

1727
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 1: has a lot of scar tissue, like it's a it's

1728
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 1: a tough assignment, all right, from at flannels flannels in JITs.

1729
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 1: This guy is probably the worst person to talk to

1730
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 1: at a party. Do you imagine It's like, what do

1731
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 1: you went to? I'm into flannel and jiu jitsu, Like,

1732
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 1: get the fuck away?

1733
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:27,000
Speaker 2: What do you think he listens to candlebox.

1734
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 1: Look, covy, come on, I'm teasing by the way, flannels

1735
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:32,639
Speaker 1: and JITs just it's a joke. Everyone relaxed, y'all. Y'all

1736
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:34,639
Speaker 1: roasted me on Friday. It's only right that I returned

1737
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 1: the favor. Okay, question, will the party a Chandler fight

1738
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 1: happened by the end of the year, I'm gonna say yes, BC.

1739
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Did you see those comments from Michael Chandler who

1740
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 2: was at the London card Luke saying that yes, it

1741
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 2: kind of kind of saying that it could be announced soon.

1742
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 2: I think that's what he said.

1743
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said, you gotta hear some news soon probably. Yeah.

1744
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 1: Love that fight. What's your early read on how that

1745
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 1: one looks.

1746
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 2: Awesome? Destrut the emotional? Violent?

1747
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:02,760
Speaker 1: Uh?

1748
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 2: I mean, look, they both took a version of Justin

1749
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 2: Gaichie to the deepest waters, right to the woodshed behind

1750
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 2: them waters, you know what I mean? And they name

1751
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,439
Speaker 2: the waters and they and they took it at him

1752
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:20,680
Speaker 2: and they finished him. Could it end up looking like

1753
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 2: that only the two of them against each other? And

1754
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:27,920
Speaker 2: or I mean, look, Chandler's so combustive that pretty much

1755
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 2: all of its fights seemed to end in halfway through

1756
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 2: the second round, right, Luke. I mean, I know he

1757
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 2: went three rounds with Gaichi, but I kind of feel

1758
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 2: like this is gonna.

1759
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 1: Be well against Yamauchi, for example, Like he even against

1760
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 1: Premise in the rematch. He can grind out a wrestling

1761
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 1: when what he needs to or wants to that actually

1762
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:46,800
Speaker 1: is on the table. But obviously more often than not

1763
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 1: these days in the UFC, he's just throwing the hammers.

1764
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 2: You know, it's gonna be a fourth round stoppage. And

1765
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 2: I have a secret fear that Pourier is a little

1766
01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 2: is a little bit of spilled milk, a little bit

1767
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 2: past his prime, and we're not fully picking up on it.

1768
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 2: I mean, he's right there in the damn on the

1769
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 2: outside the pump for pund top ten, you know. So

1770
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 2: I think some people UFC might still have him in

1771
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 2: the top ten, but I feel like Chandler's got a

1772
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 2: little bit more in the moment. So if I'm gonna

1773
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 2: lean one way, it would be a late stopp it's

1774
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 2: for Chandler. But I think the fight's gonna be crazy,

1775
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 2: which means anything can happen, Luke.

1776
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I mean I think you know Poarier

1777
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 1: has been has tested a lightweight as they come against

1778
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:29,360
Speaker 1: all different kinds of fighters. It could be like the

1779
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 1: like the Gaetchee fight with Poarier. You know, it could

1780
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 1: look like that. It could be I mean, who knows,

1781
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 1: it could be all over the place. Honestly, very winnable

1782
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 1: in either direction. So that will be a very fun one.

1783
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:42,599
Speaker 1: And then, last but not least, we see from at

1784
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 1: Kyle hank Levy. This one's for you, old big baby.

1785
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 1: Jarrell Miller has a fourth round ko of a can.

1786
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 1: I didn't even see this. What does he have to

1787
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:54,520
Speaker 1: do to be on our RADARBC?

1788
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 2: Well, I fight on you know, real television again and

1789
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 2: not fight a guy with giant move But look this

1790
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 2: it's been a long time off for Jarrell Miller, who

1791
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 2: lost that massive pay per view against Anthony Joshua with

1792
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 2: just look, where do they get caught with nineteen substances

1793
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 2: and that one drug test It was like brock lesnar.

1794
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:15,640
Speaker 1: I'm not doing a bit. I think the count was

1795
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:17,599
Speaker 1: let me see all of them.

1796
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, all of them. He's fought twice in the last

1797
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:23,559
Speaker 2: month or the last two months, and against really low

1798
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 2: level competition. Look, he's always he can talk. He also

1799
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 2: came back at like three hundred and thirty pounds. I think, Luke,

1800
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 2: i'd have to check that he's quick for a big guy.

1801
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:35,400
Speaker 2: Look at the very best, right, he's entertaining At times.

1802
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 2: I thought he could have made a fun fight with AJ.

1803
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 2: But he's got to go a long way. I mean

1804
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 2: the way that he I mean, look, people failed drug

1805
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 2: tests and lose fights, but we forgive him and they

1806
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 2: come back or whatever. It was so dramatic the way

1807
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 2: he lost that payday and that opportunity that it's gonna

1808
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:52,720
Speaker 2: take some time. I think it's gonna take it. I think

1809
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 2: it's gonna be hard for him to get TV dates, Luca,

1810
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I'm not sure where exactly

1811
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 2: where he's at in terms of his connections now, but

1812
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:00,599
Speaker 2: it's gonna take a while for us to really care.

1813
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 2: You know, he may never get back there, Luke. We'll see,

1814
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:03,400
Speaker 2: We'll see.

1815
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like, what does he have to do to

1816
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 1: get back on our radar? Get on our radar? Like, yeah,

1817
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 1: do something relevant? Uh yeah, We've talked about him on

1818
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 1: this show strictly for taking drugs. I mean, that's really

1819
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:20,800
Speaker 1: the only thing you know that he's ever been on

1820
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:23,640
Speaker 1: our radar. For all right, BC, it is your birthday,

1821
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 1: and I am told you have hyped up today's BC's

1822
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:31,639
Speaker 1: VCS in an extraordinary way. By the way, every very

1823
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:32,599
Speaker 1: curious to see what.

1824
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 2: Happens every single time I've ever hyped up the ship

1825
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 2: you're about to see you've deadpanned no soul and we

1826
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 2: went like to like, oh, okay, great, we had a

1827
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 2: good run, I guess. But here's the deal. Every weekend,

1828
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 2: even on my birthday, I scolar of the globe for

1829
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:47,639
Speaker 2: the highs of the lows, the good, the bad, the ugly,

1830
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,680
Speaker 2: and the in between. In combat sports and beyond, they

1831
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 2: call this Have you seen this shit?

1832
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 1: Have you seen this motherfucking shit?

1833
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 3: Uh?

1834
01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 2: Luke? For better or worse, YOUFC London was the Patty

1835
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 2: and Meatball Show and we've got a lot of videos

1836
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:06,480
Speaker 2: to show you the proof. Luke. Here's Patty at Friday's

1837
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 2: weigh in pulling the Oakie dok on Jordan Levin. In

1838
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:10,760
Speaker 2: terms of trolling. Did he nail this?

1839
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I'm an old and sad piece of shit.

1840
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 1: It's hard for me to get up for this kind

1841
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 1: of thing like oh I did the whole fucking three stooges.

1842
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 1: Whatever the fuck this is? You know, like it's not

1843
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 1: for me.

1844
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:30,839
Speaker 2: All right, Uh, Luke, we hyped up BC's super sloppy

1845
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 2: special of the week, Hannah Goldie versus Molly McCann. And

1846
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 2: you know, let's give Molly her flowers for at least this.

1847
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:41,720
Speaker 2: She did finish violently, Luke, another spinning back elbow as

1848
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 2: you mentioned. And damn, look when she smells blood, she

1849
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 2: doesn't know how to turn it on. Luke. Would you

1850
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:52,799
Speaker 2: say that she's a British Betchkohea.

1851
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 1: She's better than that. Well, I don't know how good

1852
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 1: she is yet, but all.

1853
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 2: Right, but here's what we're talking about, Luke. I mean,

1854
01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 2: you know, you got Dave poor annoy in a strategic

1855
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 2: spot with a wig on it for you know, we

1856
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 2: got this Uh, I don't know. I mean, look, it

1857
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 2: was a lot, it was all I mean, she was

1858
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:10,160
Speaker 2: on the screen a lot over that main card.

1859
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:13,800
Speaker 1: She's maximizing her screen time. I'll say that it's a

1860
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:15,640
Speaker 1: nice dude. It was a nice win, man. It's a

1861
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 1: real good win to get that in the way that

1862
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 1: she did. She the crowd had a certain expect listen

1863
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 1: of what you could reasonably expect from her. Did she deliver?

1864
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 1: I would say she over delivered it in terms of

1865
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 1: what you could expect from her.

1866
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 2: All right, all right, As I mentioned, not everyone a fan.

1867
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:35,680
Speaker 2: Somebody put this tweet across my timeline, Luke, is this

1868
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 2: fair or unfair? Like? How much of your dark heart

1869
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 2: believes in this?

1870
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 1: I understand the sentiment, I really do. I get it.

1871
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 1: It's a little you know, she want she It was

1872
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 1: kind of like a like a main event, sort of

1873
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 1: like jumping out of the cage and into the arms

1874
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:58,240
Speaker 1: of Dave Portannoy. But you tell me how much you

1875
01:25:58,280 --> 01:25:59,360
Speaker 1: agree with this? How about that?

1876
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:03,920
Speaker 2: I mean, Luke, it was a lot. Okay, it was

1877
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 2: a lot.

1878
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:06,680
Speaker 1: For folks who are listening on the podcast. It's it

1879
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:09,600
Speaker 1: should be this person rights. It should be illegal to

1880
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 1: celebrate this much for accomplishing so little. They right?

1881
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 2: All right? Luke? Speaking of Hannah Goldie at the b

1882
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 2: side of this matchup, how about ww superstar big Ee

1883
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 2: shouting out your boy to honor the super sloppy special

1884
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:26,679
Speaker 2: that he was about to watch. Luke love this guy?

1885
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was even he tweeted me about what's his

1886
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:34,960
Speaker 1: faces about? Aspitall's back tattoos? Yeah, he's trying to feed

1887
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 1: my kid and he was a piece to veal Letto.

1888
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 2: Well let's see him right here. Big. He took it

1889
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 2: one step further by shouting out too Ki Luke. I

1890
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:45,439
Speaker 2: have so much love for this guy. He's a real.

1891
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 1: Fan man, dude, he's the best. I really I don't

1892
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:49,880
Speaker 1: know what the state of his recovery is. I don't

1893
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:52,640
Speaker 1: know if you know more than I do, but I

1894
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 1: really hope he's okay. Shouts to Biggie, thank you for

1895
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:58,880
Speaker 1: spelling my daughter's name correctly, which motherfuckers usually don't. Yeah,

1896
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 1: so good job, sir.

1897
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 2: One t not too luke, like, there are.

1898
01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 1: Ways to spell it two ways, Like, for example, there's

1899
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 1: a show on Disney Plus called Violetta, which I think

1900
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:11,599
Speaker 1: is either Spanish or Argentinian. It's in Spanish. My wife

1901
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 1: tends to watch it and it's always a bunch of

1902
01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 1: you know whatever. Uh. They spell it with two tea's,

1903
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 1: so it can be spelled that way. But it's like,

1904
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:19,680
Speaker 1: you know, John and John, like you use a lot

1905
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 1: of different ways to spell it. Or Connor, you know,

1906
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 1: everyone puts two nds in Connor's name. It's like, yo,

1907
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 1: how fucking famous does Connor McGregor need to be before

1908
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 1: you Dullard's learn there's one N in his first name,

1909
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:33,759
Speaker 1: apparently not famous enough.

1910
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 2: Apparently Dwayne Wade so famous. I now misspelled Dwayne every

1911
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 2: time because of him.

1912
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 1: Luke, you know there's a y in there, isn't there?

1913
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? He goes d w ya rather than the opposite.

1914
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:44,880
Speaker 1: All right, that's right.

1915
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:47,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, look back to meet Paul Molly. I was critical

1916
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:49,760
Speaker 2: on some parts of her celebration, but this part was

1917
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:52,680
Speaker 2: kind of awesome. How about running to the front row

1918
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 2: celebrity row and as we mentioned earlier, drinking whiskey out

1919
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 2: of a cup with Yo wanna young j Check and

1920
01:27:58,000 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 2: Michael Chandler. That's that's pretty bad asslete.

1921
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:02,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, except it's howlerhead.

1922
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. We may get to that soon as well. All right, well,

1923
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 2: how can we get to it right now? Luke? It's

1924
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 2: one thing to celebrate your own victory, but here's where

1925
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 2: I started to turn against the old meat ball once

1926
01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 2: you started taking over Paddy's spot, almost more than him.

1927
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 2: And then we see company employee number one, Pattywig howlerhead,

1928
01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:31,080
Speaker 2: banana whiskey in hand, running around the front. Look whether

1929
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 2: or not I like this or I think it's too far?

1930
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:35,720
Speaker 2: Who am I right? Who cares? But if you're a

1931
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 2: UFC fighter trying to climb the rankings and get exposure,

1932
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 2: they gotta be out happy with this, Luke, right, tell

1933
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:45,479
Speaker 2: me why you're taking the boss's product? You know what

1934
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 2: I mean? Running free and celebrity row in the front,

1935
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 2: running in and out of the cage, putting Patty on

1936
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:53,599
Speaker 2: your shoulders again for being Hannah Goldie. I know it's

1937
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:55,680
Speaker 2: part of the atmosphere and the charm, and again some

1938
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:58,639
Speaker 2: of it I loved. But isn't this like full on

1939
01:28:58,720 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 2: company man routine right here?

1940
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 1: Luke, Yeah, a little bit. But the thing that really

1941
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:03,599
Speaker 1: stands out to me here is like, you know how

1942
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 1: Dana White is always like turning the color of country

1943
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 1: time pink lemonade. Apparently everything around him turns the color

1944
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:13,120
Speaker 1: of country Time pink lemonade. Why is the white balance

1945
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 1: off on this camera? Why does she look like she

1946
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:17,360
Speaker 1: was left out in the sun for the last forty

1947
01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:18,360
Speaker 1: at four and a half days.

1948
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:22,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't comment on that, but you know, you

1949
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:24,479
Speaker 2: can argue she won the card, Luke. You can argue that.

1950
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 1: You could argue that now the car Patty won the card.

1951
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:29,639
Speaker 2: Not to be outdone. Speaking of Patty Luke, here's the

1952
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:33,519
Speaker 2: aforementioned tea bag celebration, which he promised he would do.

1953
01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:36,200
Speaker 2: He said it's from some video game he plays. But look,

1954
01:29:36,240 --> 01:29:38,640
Speaker 2: isn't this a reverse tea bag. A tea bag is

1955
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:40,440
Speaker 2: supposed to be where you give him the full monty.

1956
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:44,160
Speaker 1: Right, like you have to face them to give him

1957
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:44,679
Speaker 1: the tea bag.

1958
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:47,200
Speaker 2: I Though's what I thought. Unless people are dropping reverse

1959
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,599
Speaker 2: tea bags all the time, you know, it's a practice.

1960
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:51,760
Speaker 2: I don't practice, Luke, so I don't really know. But

1961
01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 2: you know, like in boxing, there's a thing where if

1962
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:57,879
Speaker 2: the referee you get knocked down and the referee skips

1963
01:29:57,880 --> 01:29:59,599
Speaker 2: the ten count because they think you're done and doesn't

1964
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:01,400
Speaker 2: give you the chance. A lot of times he's referez

1965
01:30:01,439 --> 01:30:03,439
Speaker 2: will jump on your chest to pull the mouthpiece out

1966
01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:05,760
Speaker 2: and just straight up teabag you and wave off the fight.

1967
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:07,840
Speaker 2: Like that's as embarrassing as it gets, Luke. They didn't

1968
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 2: even give you a chance to recover, and now you've

1969
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 2: got this old ref's balls in your face.

1970
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:13,640
Speaker 1: This is not a I would say, it depends on

1971
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:16,639
Speaker 1: how droopy your balls are, which at twenty something years old,

1972
01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:18,639
Speaker 1: his should not be very droopy. I can't believe I'm

1973
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 1: talking about this at forty two years of fucking age. Uh.

1974
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:24,680
Speaker 1: It looks to me more like he's just taking a

1975
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:28,880
Speaker 1: dump right right, Like you know what I mean, If

1976
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 1: you just put some sound effects in there, it just

1977
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:31,920
Speaker 1: kind of works.

1978
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:34,360
Speaker 2: All right. I just skipped over this clip. Let's go

1979
01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:36,960
Speaker 2: back to it. I want to get back in line here, Luke.

1980
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:40,280
Speaker 2: Here's to be Paul Molly sneaking up from behind to

1981
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:44,400
Speaker 2: grab a high crotch on British rapper Stormzy. But she

1982
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:47,320
Speaker 2: doesn't fully run the pipe. Luke, I'm telling you she

1983
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:48,840
Speaker 2: tried to win this whole card. Luke.

1984
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's she's a party animal. Did she fix her teeth?

1985
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 1: They look amazing?

1986
01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:56,920
Speaker 2: Is that a shot at British people?

1987
01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:59,439
Speaker 1: Luke? No, it's Did you see her teeth are about

1988
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:02,840
Speaker 1: his perfectly symmetrical and white as I've ever seen anyone's

1989
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:05,880
Speaker 1: mouth ever, Like they look like dude for someone we

1990
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:08,160
Speaker 1: got some crooked ass, fucking busted teeth like I do.

1991
01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:10,640
Speaker 1: Hers look amazing. Also, I have no idea who the

1992
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 1: fuck storms he is?

1993
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:14,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, and here's pat. So this is the

1994
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:17,720
Speaker 2: moment where I turned, Luke, here's Patty being carried on

1995
01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:21,840
Speaker 2: Meatball's shoulders. I wrote down in parentheses, I hated this crap,

1996
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 2: Luke a little too much here, Okay, Udell, you.

1997
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:28,479
Speaker 1: Really like too much? How much of this is you

1998
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:31,479
Speaker 1: just hating on someone having a good time? I really like,

1999
01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:33,599
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not here to say that. I didn't,

2000
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:36,280
Speaker 1: you know, get a little out of the line with

2001
01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:38,599
Speaker 1: you know, two or three margarita's at our Friday show

2002
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:41,160
Speaker 1: at the beer house. But maybe you just don't like

2003
01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 1: it when other people have a good drunken time around you.

2004
01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 1: I'm beginning to the sense of theme here. BC.

2005
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:47,280
Speaker 2: Are you saying I'm fun police, Luke? If I can't

2006
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:48,840
Speaker 2: be the center of it, then nobody can.

2007
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:50,479
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was gonna say, like, it's not like you're

2008
01:31:50,479 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 1: the fun police, because there's like even Okay, So for example,

2009
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:55,280
Speaker 1: when we went where were we when we went to

2010
01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:59,040
Speaker 1: the uh the baseball like we had the box with

2011
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:01,559
Speaker 1: all the Mulka crew were shotgunning beers. You're like, yo,

2012
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 1: I'm not into this fraternity bullshit. I'm gonna go pout

2013
01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:06,080
Speaker 1: outside like a hoe. And I was like, well, why

2014
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 1: don't you just come party with us? You don't like

2015
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 1: it when other people have a good time around you,

2016
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:12,559
Speaker 1: unless it's about you.

2017
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:14,960
Speaker 2: If you're doing a deep dive cycle analyst, you may

2018
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:16,880
Speaker 2: you may have some points there. I don't subscribe to

2019
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:19,360
Speaker 2: that though at this on the surface, I disagree with you.

2020
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:21,719
Speaker 2: That day, though, Luke, there were a couple of things

2021
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 2: going against I mean, let let's be honest and free

2022
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:26,519
Speaker 2: and clear here. Okay, Look, I got a low tolerance

2023
01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:28,760
Speaker 2: if I drink, you know what I'm saying, like, not

2024
01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:30,840
Speaker 2: a low old guy tolerance meaning I used to have

2025
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:32,679
Speaker 2: a good tolerance. Now you know, I'm an old piece

2026
01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:34,800
Speaker 2: of shit. One or two or three drinks could give

2027
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 2: me a vicious hangover. So I was trying, you know,

2028
01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:40,200
Speaker 2: sitting in the in the eighth throw of delta, and

2029
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:42,600
Speaker 2: I was really trying my best, Luke, which helps with

2030
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 2: the hangovers, by the way, but I was really trying

2031
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:47,879
Speaker 2: my best to be strategic with my drinking. I couldn't

2032
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:52,559
Speaker 2: waste it. And a drink off mixed with Luke that

2033
01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 2: was a serious turn for our dock in terms of storylines. Right,

2034
01:32:56,520 --> 01:33:01,439
Speaker 2: we were deeply introspectively contemplating the current realities of our

2035
01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:03,760
Speaker 2: life and career and where we're going as the invasion

2036
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 2: was happening, So some of that storyline magic, and some

2037
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 2: of that was the truth about what I was wrestling with.

2038
01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:13,200
Speaker 1: Luke. Okay, I think that if I know anything about

2039
01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 1: Brian Campbell is that what he likes to do is

2040
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:18,720
Speaker 1: to walk into a room and just fill it with himself.

2041
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:22,640
Speaker 1: Everyone look at him and talk only to him. And

2042
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:26,000
Speaker 1: if it can't be that, you pull the plug, that's it.

2043
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:28,680
Speaker 2: Just out Are you saying that? That's what fuels my

2044
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:31,840
Speaker 2: Lithuanian exits, which are so much nicer than the Irish version, Luke,

2045
01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:33,960
Speaker 2: because you're telling the person up front it's not you,

2046
01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:36,960
Speaker 2: it's me. I gotta go, which is a long way

2047
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 2: of saying it's you. I've got social anxiety. I need

2048
01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:43,360
Speaker 2: to go. Okay, Yeah, well yeah, all right, okay, Luke,

2049
01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:45,280
Speaker 2: where are we at in this Molly and Meatball show.

2050
01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:47,679
Speaker 2: I think we got I think we got one more.

2051
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:49,920
Speaker 2: Oh no, we saw it all right, Luke. Elsewhere on

2052
01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 2: UFC London barstool, pres Dave Portnoy out here dressing like

2053
01:33:57,120 --> 01:33:58,760
Speaker 2: an asshole. I can't figure out if I liked this

2054
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:00,640
Speaker 2: or I didn't. Luke, where do you stand on this?

2055
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:06,160
Speaker 1: Listen? I'm a humorless piece of trash, you know, like

2056
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:10,040
Speaker 1: looking like mister Planter's the Peanut Guide. I guess there's

2057
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:14,000
Speaker 1: a segment where this works. Listen, I hate fun. Can

2058
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:16,200
Speaker 1: we just be honest about that? So?

2059
01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:19,439
Speaker 2: Will Dana ever let our podcast sit with the Patty

2060
01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 2: Wig in the front row and like carry the fighters

2061
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:23,000
Speaker 2: around afterwards?

2062
01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:25,320
Speaker 1: Luke? You know, only if this podcast turns into our

2063
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:28,639
Speaker 1: billion dollar enterprise that gives his fighters money.

2064
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:32,000
Speaker 2: What imagine it's thinking of it? Speaking of storyline turns

2065
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:34,920
Speaker 2: from the doc. Imagine if a real life turn happened, Luke,

2066
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:37,840
Speaker 2: where we end up becoming Dana's favorite podcast in the

2067
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 2: end somehow, and then he gives us the noeboy gift

2068
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:42,760
Speaker 2: on camera, and then we have to turn back and

2069
01:34:42,800 --> 01:34:44,840
Speaker 2: be like, what do we do? We've got hours of

2070
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:47,880
Speaker 2: footage fighting for fighter pay and then now data just

2071
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 2: put two fifty k in our pocket.

2072
01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:54,759
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I'm not going to wait around for that. Okay,

2073
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:56,400
Speaker 1: could happen? Never know?

2074
01:34:56,479 --> 01:34:58,759
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Look, let's go to Jack the Joker

2075
01:34:58,760 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 2: here in the Coomin event. He was vicious and offensive

2076
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:03,800
Speaker 2: in this sequence, thinking he had Chris Curtis hurt. Look

2077
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:06,280
Speaker 2: at these elbows from the Nordic Nightmare.

2078
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 1: Luke. Yeah, he looked pretty good here. This was the

2079
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:10,400
Speaker 1: one time he had him. He blocked the kick, but

2080
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:11,880
Speaker 1: it's still kind of rattled him a little bit. I

2081
01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 1: was some of these elbows, I was like, eh, but

2082
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 1: he let him rock.

2083
01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:18,880
Speaker 2: Yes, a couple of slipped through. Yep, Luke. Here's Chris

2084
01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 2: Curtis activating his inner Nate Diaz after the fight. As

2085
01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:22,799
Speaker 2: we mentioned earlier.

2086
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:28,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, this is this is Chris Curtis is my family,

2087
01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:32,840
Speaker 1: and I am Jack Hermanson. This is typically that's fair, Luke.

2088
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:37,759
Speaker 2: Muhammad Mokayev and Charles Johnson needed to be separated ahead

2089
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:40,000
Speaker 2: of their featured prelim match up here, Luke, look at

2090
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:40,360
Speaker 2: this ship.

2091
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:43,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, and then he landed one significant strike

2092
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:47,880
Speaker 1: in the third round. Yeah, and like save some of

2093
01:35:47,880 --> 01:35:49,120
Speaker 1: that young fella save.

2094
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:51,439
Speaker 2: Once they've no one went to the wind and ghost here.

2095
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:57,200
Speaker 2: But Muhaiev Mokayev excuse me, was handing out tickets to

2096
01:35:57,240 --> 01:35:59,559
Speaker 2: Suplex City during this fight. Luke, I kind of popped

2097
01:35:59,560 --> 01:35:59,760
Speaker 2: for this.

2098
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:04,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, some nice ones there he had, Like again, we

2099
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 1: cover this a little bit on extra credit. He had

2100
01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:10,280
Speaker 1: like in just the third round, five of ten takedowns,

2101
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:12,200
Speaker 1: So he was just putting in work on the wrestling.

2102
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:16,240
Speaker 2: Well, hopefully in extra credit you will be talking about

2103
01:36:16,680 --> 01:36:19,320
Speaker 2: Paul Craig maybe coming out a little bit too. Yes,

2104
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:22,240
Speaker 2: fired up. It actually started in the weigh ins, Luke,

2105
01:36:22,280 --> 01:36:24,400
Speaker 2: with the look at this bringing it right to Vulcan.

2106
01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:26,519
Speaker 2: It looked like mentally he might have cracked him. Did

2107
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:28,800
Speaker 2: you zoom in on Osdamir there and see it looked

2108
01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:31,639
Speaker 2: like he was like in his head, Luke, maybe.

2109
01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:33,720
Speaker 1: But then Ozdemir won all three rounds on all three

2110
01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:37,320
Speaker 1: judges scorecards. Was like yo, Connor won the press conference,

2111
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:39,360
Speaker 1: Connor won the way in and then number Gamadov goes

2112
01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:42,679
Speaker 1: in icesm. It's like, right, one of these things matters.

2113
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:44,280
Speaker 1: One of them doesn't.

2114
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:47,000
Speaker 2: Shot out for Oscar Willis of MacLife fame for first

2115
01:36:47,080 --> 01:36:48,760
Speaker 2: putting this out into the world. I think he took

2116
01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:51,519
Speaker 2: it in the hotel room, although Blades in aspenall in

2117
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:53,360
Speaker 2: the main event didn't get to find out the winner.

2118
01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:56,559
Speaker 2: Look at the winner circle afterwards, Luke. The nineteenth hole.

2119
01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:59,240
Speaker 2: Two good buddies taking down a cold one. I'm here

2120
01:36:59,240 --> 01:36:59,519
Speaker 2: for this.

2121
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:02,320
Speaker 1: Those beers that's a see, that's an English pint. The

2122
01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:06,240
Speaker 1: English do the beer pint the right way, full sized pint,

2123
01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:09,360
Speaker 1: them two getting after. I gotta say, those beers look refreshing.

2124
01:37:09,439 --> 01:37:11,320
Speaker 1: And then when I tweeted that, John Annick was like, Yo,

2125
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:12,799
Speaker 1: that's exactly what I was thinking.

2126
01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 2: Indeed, Indeed, Luke, Long Island, Luke just put in our

2127
01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:18,800
Speaker 2: chat Cleveland Portnoy. Is he trying to ask if if

2128
01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:21,439
Speaker 2: you turned on Dave Portnoy when we interviewed him that

2129
01:37:21,439 --> 01:37:23,639
Speaker 2: time and they complained about the cameras and you know.

2130
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:26,400
Speaker 1: Well there wasn't our fault. We didn't set that shit up.

2131
01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:28,639
Speaker 1: But no, he was trying to like, you just missed

2132
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:30,720
Speaker 1: everything in the chat as he was putting it up,

2133
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:34,520
Speaker 1: and now you're reading it all back together like a jackass.

2134
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:37,040
Speaker 2: Oh it just appeared. Sorry, Oh was that really five

2135
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:37,519
Speaker 2: minutes ago?

2136
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:40,840
Speaker 1: It just appeared in my Yeah, actually six minutes ago. Yes.

2137
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:43,559
Speaker 2: Oh, now now they're appearing one after another.

2138
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:47,559
Speaker 1: Okay, it's all the chat works me see, welcome tomorrow, Luke.

2139
01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:49,679
Speaker 2: True or false? Though, And I don't have anything against

2140
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:52,240
Speaker 2: Dave Portray except for when he went to Mike's Pizza

2141
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:54,840
Speaker 2: Palace in nougatok, Connecticut, which I'll put up against any

2142
01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:57,000
Speaker 2: pizza that was ever made, Luke, and he shit on

2143
01:37:57,080 --> 01:37:59,320
Speaker 2: them with deb the Uber driver and gave him like

2144
01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:04,640
Speaker 2: a six out of ten, and he no sold everything

2145
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:06,360
Speaker 2: we tried to give him in that interview though, would

2146
01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:09,439
Speaker 2: you say that true or false? Yeah, we tried to

2147
01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:11,719
Speaker 2: make a little magic, a little back and forth play volley.

2148
01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:14,040
Speaker 2: He kind of shopped us. I mean he was just like,

2149
01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:15,559
Speaker 2: I'm not playing this game right now.

2150
01:38:16,160 --> 01:38:18,720
Speaker 1: Well, to be clear, Shop did that to you, not

2151
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:21,080
Speaker 1: to me. I want to be very honest about that,

2152
01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:23,439
Speaker 1: So I don't quite have that same use of the

2153
01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:25,840
Speaker 1: verb in ways you might. I just remember him being

2154
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:29,360
Speaker 1: very tan. And then afterwards Big Cat followed me on Twitter,

2155
01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:31,320
Speaker 1: so I got something out of it, all right.

2156
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:33,760
Speaker 2: He was the guy who complained openly about the setup. Okay,

2157
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:36,519
Speaker 2: all right, let's keep it going here, Luke, let's go

2158
01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:38,360
Speaker 2: to the next one. If you thought we were done

2159
01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:41,679
Speaker 2: with Molly the meetball, Luke, we aren't check out this sound.

2160
01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:44,040
Speaker 2: As she was asked about being called out by Miranda

2161
01:38:44,120 --> 01:38:45,280
Speaker 2: Maverick after the fight.

2162
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:49,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mirandef you want to, I'll fuck you wherever you

2163
01:38:49,320 --> 01:39:00,960
Speaker 3: want to be fucked. Un to gay Way, You're right, Luke,

2164
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:02,680
Speaker 3: I may have been too harsh on her after this,

2165
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:04,640
Speaker 3: I think, you know, this kind of on brand for

2166
01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:05,120
Speaker 3: this show.

2167
01:39:05,200 --> 01:39:08,120
Speaker 2: I think I think I'm back again. So Molly me, you're.

2168
01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:12,639
Speaker 1: Okay, this is this is like, this is apex BC, Like, yeah,

2169
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:13,439
Speaker 1: this is what you love?

2170
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:15,559
Speaker 2: This is That's about as good as it gets. Actually,

2171
01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:18,840
Speaker 2: I'm into this because think about it, Luke, Look, long term,

2172
01:39:18,840 --> 01:39:20,400
Speaker 2: do I think she's gonna be great? I don't know.

2173
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:22,400
Speaker 2: We're gonna find out. But there's a lot of fun

2174
01:39:22,439 --> 01:39:24,240
Speaker 2: matchups to get some of my favorite fighters we can

2175
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:24,960
Speaker 2: make with her right now?

2176
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:26,920
Speaker 1: So why not? Why not? Luke? Okay, why do I

2177
01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:30,160
Speaker 1: have time time to see what happens at Women's All?

2178
01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:31,400
Speaker 2: Right, let's go keep it going.

2179
01:39:31,720 --> 01:39:35,519
Speaker 1: Look how many times? How many times have you thought?

2180
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:37,800
Speaker 1: How time? How many times have you done this on Instagram? Mom,

2181
01:39:37,800 --> 01:39:40,599
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look at all the women fighter I follow.

2182
01:39:41,160 --> 01:39:43,200
Speaker 1: I'll fuck you where you'd like to be fun. You've

2183
01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:44,680
Speaker 1: seen You've said the same.

2184
01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:49,599
Speaker 2: Thing you phone me, Luke? Can we move on before

2185
01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:52,240
Speaker 2: we all lose it? Luke, I mean before before the

2186
01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:54,280
Speaker 2: show gets shut down live on my birthday?

2187
01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:56,639
Speaker 1: Did you like that line for her? I'm just curious.

2188
01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:58,639
Speaker 1: It sounded very.

2189
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:00,439
Speaker 2: I mean it is you'd believe it if I said yes,

2190
01:40:00,520 --> 01:40:03,080
Speaker 2: so wouldn't you. That's that's probably the thing here, all right, Luke,

2191
01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:05,400
Speaker 2: this from last week, speaking of failed main events, how

2192
01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:09,400
Speaker 2: about Brian Ortega going backstage and apologizing to the family

2193
01:40:09,439 --> 01:40:12,960
Speaker 2: of Yaher Rodriguez for the injury preventing them from making

2194
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:16,080
Speaker 2: the magic Luke that they looked ready to make. I'm

2195
01:40:16,120 --> 01:40:18,320
Speaker 2: telling you, I got a new favorite fighter now that

2196
01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:20,240
Speaker 2: you want to retired. It is Brian Ortega, Luke.

2197
01:40:20,479 --> 01:40:23,040
Speaker 1: It is okay, Yeah, he's uh you know, I think

2198
01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:26,360
Speaker 1: he felt terrible about the situation. That's a giant cup

2199
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:32,519
Speaker 1: that he has, and uh yeah, your's family looks wonderful.

2200
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:35,240
Speaker 2: All right, there you go, uh, Luke. We always ask

2201
01:40:35,400 --> 01:40:38,000
Speaker 2: that same question that was pitched in the nineties by

2202
01:40:38,040 --> 01:40:42,160
Speaker 2: Joan Osborne. What if UFC fighters were really one of us, Luke,

2203
01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:44,719
Speaker 2: just a slob like one of us? Hey, how about

2204
01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:49,080
Speaker 2: Islam Mahchev, fresh off getting the title shot, caught himself

2205
01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:51,040
Speaker 2: a fresh catch, Luke, out on the water.

2206
01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:54,360
Speaker 1: I bet this motherfucker bare handed it too, dude.

2207
01:40:54,439 --> 01:40:57,000
Speaker 2: That thing is like five feet tall. Look at that fish?

2208
01:40:57,520 --> 01:40:59,840
Speaker 1: Good? How did he fucking catch this thing? He's got

2209
01:40:59,840 --> 01:41:02,080
Speaker 1: a on wetsuits? So he must have been fully submerged

2210
01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:02,599
Speaker 1: in the water.

2211
01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:05,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were saying that a double on it.

2212
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:08,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably. I don't know what the name of the

2213
01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:10,280
Speaker 1: or what channel it's on, but you ever seen the

2214
01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:14,639
Speaker 1: show River Monsters. No, well, there's this thing called noodling.

2215
01:41:14,640 --> 01:41:15,559
Speaker 1: You ever heard of noodling?

2216
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:18,240
Speaker 2: Yes?

2217
01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:18,880
Speaker 1: Yes, I have?

2218
01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:21,000
Speaker 2: What what what definition do you have for it?

2219
01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:23,519
Speaker 1: Luke? Yeah, not the thing you're worried about after you

2220
01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:26,120
Speaker 1: have ten jack and giants. I don't mean that. What

2221
01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:29,280
Speaker 1: I mean is where they catch these giant fish with

2222
01:41:29,439 --> 01:41:32,120
Speaker 1: their bear fucking hands, usually like the big ass catfish,

2223
01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:35,280
Speaker 1: and shit, you never seen this. It's like good old

2224
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:38,080
Speaker 1: fashioned dubt fun. They go noodling in like wherever the

2225
01:41:38,120 --> 01:41:41,439
Speaker 1: fuck on the Mississippi somewhere, and they catch these giant

2226
01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:45,320
Speaker 1: ass catfish with their bear fucking hands. Dude, it's damni shit. Ever,

2227
01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:46,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if that this is not a catfish.

2228
01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:47,720
Speaker 1: I don't know what the fuck it is.

2229
01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:50,640
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I assume Dagistan is like a you know,

2230
01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:52,360
Speaker 2: put your hand in the water, grab it and take

2231
01:41:52,400 --> 01:41:54,080
Speaker 2: a bite out of it. Luke, they're that old school.

2232
01:41:54,120 --> 01:41:55,880
Speaker 2: Then they can live off the land, right, Luke. I

2233
01:41:55,880 --> 01:41:58,439
Speaker 2: mean that's a different mentality out there. Maybe he did

2234
01:41:58,600 --> 01:41:59,280
Speaker 2: catch this with his.

2235
01:41:59,240 --> 01:42:03,160
Speaker 1: Bare hands up, Luke, I would like to see the video. Yes,

2236
01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:05,080
Speaker 1: that's a giant fucking fish.

2237
01:42:05,120 --> 01:42:08,599
Speaker 2: Speaking of noodles, did you let your daughter watch Elmo?

2238
01:42:08,680 --> 01:42:11,520
Speaker 2: At all you know about mister noodle? Guy has huge.

2239
01:42:11,320 --> 01:42:13,599
Speaker 1: Mister Noodle is such a stupid piece of shit.

2240
01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:16,800
Speaker 2: I mean he has he has huge predator vibes.

2241
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:19,880
Speaker 1: Luke, Okay, I can we get a home invasion on

2242
01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:21,839
Speaker 1: his house so we can just end him in the neighborhood?

2243
01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:25,519
Speaker 1: Please fuck that guy. Mister Noodle is constantly Yo, mister Noodle,

2244
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:27,920
Speaker 1: what's the weather like today? It'll be raining. He'll be like,

2245
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:30,120
Speaker 1: it's sonny Like, get the fuck out of here, mister noodle.

2246
01:42:30,360 --> 01:42:33,080
Speaker 1: You are not helpful for anything. You are giving everyone

2247
01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:36,479
Speaker 1: wrong information. You dress like a moron. You haven't combed

2248
01:42:36,479 --> 01:42:38,320
Speaker 1: your hair since nineteen seventy three. You get the fuck

2249
01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:38,840
Speaker 1: off screen.

2250
01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:41,880
Speaker 2: What do you think about, mister noodle? Mister Noodle's brother

2251
01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:44,439
Speaker 2: was active when I used to watch that show too, Luke,

2252
01:42:44,479 --> 01:42:47,400
Speaker 2: all right, they both look like you know, you came

2253
01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:49,800
Speaker 2: all this way to eat pizza with a teenage girl.

2254
01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:51,600
Speaker 2: She's twelve. You know what I mean like they have

2255
01:42:51,640 --> 01:42:53,120
Speaker 2: that vibe, Luke, you know what I'm saying.

2256
01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:56,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, mister Noodle is a piece of shit. Yo, fuck

2257
01:42:56,240 --> 01:42:58,400
Speaker 1: mister Noodle that Chris Curtis after the jack Er manson

2258
01:42:58,400 --> 01:42:59,759
Speaker 1: about Yo fuck mister Noodle.

2259
01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:03,040
Speaker 2: Let's go to beltoor Mma. They took over Tacoma on

2260
01:43:03,120 --> 01:43:06,679
Speaker 2: Friday night, Luke, speaking of Tofique Mussaiev, here's the twenty

2261
01:43:06,760 --> 01:43:10,160
Speaker 2: seven second demolition of Sydney Outlaw. I was impressive as shit, Luke.

2262
01:43:10,160 --> 01:43:10,880
Speaker 2: Look at the power.

2263
01:43:11,720 --> 01:43:17,120
Speaker 1: Oh fucking not even thirty seconds. This bout went unbelievable.

2264
01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:20,799
Speaker 1: This guy, he came in hard charging. Look at his elbows,

2265
01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:23,599
Speaker 1: extra pointy elbows. You ever notice that.

2266
01:43:23,640 --> 01:43:24,439
Speaker 2: He sharpens them?

2267
01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:27,599
Speaker 1: Probably probably does, dude, this guy is a beast. Sidney,

2268
01:43:27,600 --> 01:43:30,280
Speaker 1: Poor Sidney the outlaw man just overwhelmed, supposed to have

2269
01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:32,040
Speaker 1: a title shot and then just gets dusted off in

2270
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:34,599
Speaker 1: less than thirty seconds against the guy who I think

2271
01:43:34,720 --> 01:43:37,040
Speaker 1: was making this promotional debut. If I'm not mistaken, just

2272
01:43:37,280 --> 01:43:39,240
Speaker 1: not a great run for him. Unfortunately.

2273
01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:40,920
Speaker 2: You know, if I came from the wild the world

2274
01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:43,040
Speaker 2: West days, Luke, I would definitely would have been a blacksmith.

2275
01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:44,920
Speaker 2: I bet you those guys got laid all the time,

2276
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:47,000
Speaker 2: like in the in like the mountain towns, like the

2277
01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:47,639
Speaker 2: mining towns.

2278
01:43:47,680 --> 01:43:50,000
Speaker 1: Luke a blacksmith.

2279
01:43:50,439 --> 01:43:52,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have been a blacksmith, dude. I would

2280
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:55,040
Speaker 2: have been cleaning up too, And like, you know, I

2281
01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:56,280
Speaker 2: don't know what do you want? Where do you want

2282
01:43:56,280 --> 01:43:59,519
Speaker 2: me to clean up? Jackson Hole? You know what I mean? Luke?

2283
01:44:00,240 --> 01:44:04,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you definitely would have been I'm trying to think,

2284
01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:07,080
Speaker 1: what would you have been? Deadwood mining town? Yeah, Deadwood,

2285
01:44:07,120 --> 01:44:11,240
Speaker 1: it would but you're Deadwood these days? Uh uh?

2286
01:44:11,320 --> 01:44:13,840
Speaker 2: Luke. On CBS Sports HQ, they asked me for my

2287
01:44:13,920 --> 01:44:15,960
Speaker 2: best bet of the weekend, and of course you gave

2288
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:18,920
Speaker 2: a minus eight hundred favorite as your best bet.

2289
01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:21,880
Speaker 1: But I said, no, David, okay, stop? Was I right?

2290
01:44:22,120 --> 01:44:23,280
Speaker 1: Or was I right? Yeah?

2291
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:25,840
Speaker 2: You do that every time. Though, davy On Franklin did

2292
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:28,599
Speaker 2: not end up improving to six and zero. In fact,

2293
01:44:28,640 --> 01:44:30,719
Speaker 2: he gassed late Luke, but he did have a highlight

2294
01:44:30,760 --> 01:44:34,559
Speaker 2: here against Marcelo Golm and the main card opener WW

2295
01:44:34,760 --> 01:44:36,400
Speaker 2: style hitting him with the death valley driver.

2296
01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:39,719
Speaker 1: Luke, look at this, So what is a death valley driver?

2297
01:44:39,800 --> 01:44:41,960
Speaker 1: It's like a failed standing fireman's carry.

2298
01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:44,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. The Kenny Omega has a great finish of the

2299
01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:47,400
Speaker 2: one wing Dangel, which is somewhat like this, but there's

2300
01:44:47,439 --> 01:44:49,920
Speaker 2: another you gotta you gotta tuck the guy's head behind

2301
01:44:49,960 --> 01:44:52,919
Speaker 2: his neck and slam him. But uh, this was pretty dangerous.

2302
01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:58,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a standing failed fireman's carry and he lost

2303
01:44:58,520 --> 01:45:01,280
Speaker 1: about he got submitted the round after this, I believe.

2304
01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:03,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he gassed Luke. It was unfortunate to see. But

2305
01:45:03,240 --> 01:45:05,599
Speaker 2: maybe it's a key a key step in his journey

2306
01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:08,880
Speaker 2: to overcome and and and uh, work on that gas tank, Lukes.

2307
01:45:08,880 --> 01:45:11,320
Speaker 2: Here's Mark Kats delivering the strike of the week on

2308
01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:14,280
Speaker 2: this Belatore preliminary card, hitting what I think it's called

2309
01:45:14,280 --> 01:45:16,599
Speaker 2: a flip dog kick on Jalen Base.

2310
01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:17,680
Speaker 1: Ask if you were going to bring this up. No,

2311
01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:19,719
Speaker 1: this is a rolling axe dong kick.

2312
01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:24,160
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, yeah, rolling rolling thunder dong shot.

2313
01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:29,000
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, dude, Wow, I mean, honestly, pound for pound,

2314
01:45:29,080 --> 01:45:32,559
Speaker 1: I think Belatore, I don't think they have the most

2315
01:45:33,080 --> 01:45:35,240
Speaker 1: ball kicks. I don't think that's true, but they've got

2316
01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:38,160
Speaker 1: the most creative ones of the most insane ones. Add

2317
01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:39,120
Speaker 1: this one to the list.

2318
01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:43,400
Speaker 2: Indeed, indeed, Middleway Dalton Rosta made it made a fairly

2319
01:45:43,479 --> 01:45:48,040
Speaker 2: large statement himself in the preliminary main event, stopping ranked

2320
01:45:48,120 --> 01:45:51,120
Speaker 2: Romero cott in Luke. This was this was huge, dude.

2321
01:45:51,120 --> 01:45:52,120
Speaker 2: I love this performance.

2322
01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:55,160
Speaker 1: Boy, What I wouldn't give to look like Dalton Rosta

2323
01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:55,800
Speaker 1: for a day?

2324
01:45:56,320 --> 01:45:56,679
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2325
01:45:56,760 --> 01:45:59,160
Speaker 1: Christ, they call him Hercules. Look at this kid. He

2326
01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:02,559
Speaker 1: is unbelievable. Fucking Cotton couldn't get the takedown at all.

2327
01:46:02,720 --> 01:46:04,720
Speaker 1: Rosta no sold him and then made his life hell

2328
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:06,120
Speaker 1: on the feet and then finally hit him with the

2329
01:46:06,120 --> 01:46:08,559
Speaker 1: Superman punch and then that left hook here it is

2330
01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:12,000
Speaker 1: Superman punch. Bah.

2331
01:46:12,120 --> 01:46:14,880
Speaker 2: So would you be against given his last name as Rosta,

2332
01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:17,720
Speaker 2: would you be against him putting on the high t

2333
01:46:18,760 --> 01:46:21,160
Speaker 2: Bob Marley hat that I sometimes wear and like coming

2334
01:46:21,240 --> 01:46:23,680
Speaker 2: out to reggae music and just like call himself the

2335
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:25,040
Speaker 2: Rosta man. Would you be against that?

2336
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:25,280
Speaker 3: Loop?

2337
01:46:25,400 --> 01:46:27,840
Speaker 1: But see, this sort of gets to like the Columbia

2338
01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:31,720
Speaker 1: Columbia thing, where in English we spelled Columbia with the

2339
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:33,599
Speaker 1: U and we pronounced it the same as when it's

2340
01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:37,080
Speaker 1: col O versus Colu, but in Spanish it'd be Columbia

2341
01:46:37,160 --> 01:46:40,479
Speaker 1: versus Columbia. He's actually got the oh. Rosta would be

2342
01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:43,400
Speaker 1: r A S t A. And I'm wondering what's the

2343
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:47,880
Speaker 1: proper pronunciation of rosta. It's probably rosta or some shit.

2344
01:46:47,960 --> 01:46:49,559
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm making a dumb point. Who gives

2345
01:46:49,560 --> 01:46:50,439
Speaker 1: a fuck? Yeah?

2346
01:46:50,479 --> 01:46:53,360
Speaker 2: Great non answer there, Look appreciate it, Luke. We told

2347
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:56,040
Speaker 2: you to watch well to wait Roman Ferraldo because he

2348
01:46:56,120 --> 01:46:57,959
Speaker 2: keeps knocking people cold on the undercards.

2349
01:46:58,040 --> 01:46:59,960
Speaker 1: We'll talk about this on extra credit.

2350
01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:03,679
Speaker 2: Eight and oh with eight first round KOs in this one.

2351
01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:04,840
Speaker 2: Good lord.

2352
01:47:05,800 --> 01:47:09,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he uh forces the He forces inigas to

2353
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:13,719
Speaker 1: his right and then throws from the right handed stance

2354
01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:17,599
Speaker 1: a lead right switches stances, which freezes in egos, which

2355
01:47:17,640 --> 01:47:19,479
Speaker 1: lines him up as he steps off in the switch,

2356
01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:22,559
Speaker 1: stands for the left, and then just drives that one home. Dude,

2357
01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:25,040
Speaker 1: this one was easy work for him. This kid is

2358
01:47:26,080 --> 01:47:29,000
Speaker 1: super awesome. If you are not paying attention to Roman Ferraldo,

2359
01:47:29,040 --> 01:47:30,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what you are doing. Man. This guy

2360
01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:32,559
Speaker 1: is a highlight reel machine.

2361
01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:36,320
Speaker 2: He's coming on our regional MMA Highlight of the week.

2362
01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:39,639
Speaker 2: Luke comes from MMA series fifty three. Did you see

2363
01:47:39,680 --> 01:47:42,400
Speaker 2: this insane postflight brawl that broke.

2364
01:47:42,160 --> 01:47:46,920
Speaker 1: Out Jesus was the passion of Christ?

2365
01:47:47,200 --> 01:47:49,880
Speaker 2: Oh? Come on, God, you could have made a carry

2366
01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:50,880
Speaker 2: reference at least.

2367
01:47:50,920 --> 01:48:00,200
Speaker 1: I mean, wow, oh Jesus, where is this? Uh has

2368
01:48:00,200 --> 01:48:01,160
Speaker 1: got sucker punched?

2369
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:05,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? This is wild damn. So folks, we're on live

2370
01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:08,280
Speaker 2: television here at Strikeforce Nashville. I mean, come on, I mean,

2371
01:48:08,439 --> 01:48:10,000
Speaker 2: these guys not fooling around, Luke.

2372
01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:14,040
Speaker 1: In Yeah, thanks, Gus, very helpful, Thank youmber One.

2373
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:17,880
Speaker 2: Gus called uh when Kimbo got knocked out by the

2374
01:48:18,040 --> 01:48:21,080
Speaker 2: what's the guy's name, Seth Petrozzelli, he called it the

2375
01:48:21,080 --> 01:48:24,120
Speaker 2: biggest upset in the history. That was great. That's great,

2376
01:48:24,720 --> 01:48:28,840
Speaker 2: all right? Uh, Luke I called him fire. Yeah. Check

2377
01:48:28,880 --> 01:48:31,720
Speaker 2: out this piece of photography, brilliance. I call this art

2378
01:48:31,760 --> 01:48:35,800
Speaker 2: piece the strip mall Circle of Life. Look at this picture, Luke.

2379
01:48:37,800 --> 01:48:40,280
Speaker 1: This has to be where my dad is from. This

2380
01:48:40,360 --> 01:48:41,760
Speaker 1: has to be Lawt in Oklahoma.

2381
01:48:42,160 --> 01:48:46,000
Speaker 2: Holy shit. Yeah, you get it all. You know.

2382
01:48:46,040 --> 01:48:47,680
Speaker 1: You know what's missing here. You know what's missing here

2383
01:48:47,760 --> 01:48:50,200
Speaker 1: is the bail bondsman. That's the only thing fucking missing

2384
01:48:50,200 --> 01:48:51,680
Speaker 1: from this fucking line up here.

2385
01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:53,479
Speaker 2: Well, it looks like that strip mall goes a little

2386
01:48:53,479 --> 01:48:57,160
Speaker 2: bit longer, so there's probably a vape store bail bondsman. Yeah,

2387
01:48:57,200 --> 01:49:00,960
Speaker 2: that's that's fantastic, all right, Lucas to play rate that

2388
01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:03,439
Speaker 2: tat you know you love this game? Well, you had

2389
01:49:03,479 --> 01:49:06,280
Speaker 2: mentioned the Big E from WWE, our guy from the

2390
01:49:06,320 --> 01:49:10,080
Speaker 2: New Day shooting shouting us both out on Twitter. Here's

2391
01:49:10,080 --> 01:49:13,240
Speaker 2: what the Big E offered, saying, Luke, is Aspinall's back

2392
01:49:13,320 --> 01:49:17,679
Speaker 2: piece excellently done? Or have I consumed too many Delta eights?

2393
01:49:17,920 --> 01:49:20,680
Speaker 2: I hope the latter is definitely true, But could you

2394
01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:22,439
Speaker 2: respond here? What are your thoughts now that you got

2395
01:49:22,439 --> 01:49:25,639
Speaker 2: the chance to see Tom Aspinall's new backup date again.

2396
01:49:25,680 --> 01:49:27,400
Speaker 1: I'm not really paid too much attention to believe it

2397
01:49:27,520 --> 01:49:30,200
Speaker 1: or not, as I haven't had a clear look at it.

2398
01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:33,280
Speaker 1: It's unfinished, so we have to be very careful what

2399
01:49:33,360 --> 01:49:35,920
Speaker 1: we say. It's very much unfinished. I didn't love it

2400
01:49:35,960 --> 01:49:38,439
Speaker 1: from what I saw, I didn't hate it. It's not bad.

2401
01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:42,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I want to reserve judgment until it's done.

2402
01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:44,280
Speaker 1: I want to see it when it's done.

2403
01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:47,040
Speaker 2: Do you think Robbi Lawler's tramp stamp is unfinished because

2404
01:49:47,080 --> 01:49:47,720
Speaker 2: it looks like it?

2405
01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:49,960
Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't understand, Like what the deal is there?

2406
01:49:50,000 --> 01:49:51,800
Speaker 1: Just get it lasered off, right if you.

2407
01:49:51,720 --> 01:49:52,920
Speaker 2: Don't want to add to it?

2408
01:49:53,080 --> 01:49:55,280
Speaker 1: Right? Yea? Or add to it or whatever you want,

2409
01:49:55,320 --> 01:49:57,479
Speaker 1: but like you just kind of like halfway did it

2410
01:49:57,520 --> 01:50:00,200
Speaker 1: and was like, eh, fuck it just left it all right, Luke, is.

2411
01:50:00,160 --> 01:50:02,520
Speaker 2: Your favorite thing ever? Rate this astat?

2412
01:50:03,680 --> 01:50:12,519
Speaker 1: I do like astats. That's exceptional. That's exceptional. That's extremely good.

2413
01:50:12,920 --> 01:50:14,880
Speaker 2: I mean it's kind of gross, though, Luke, Ray. The

2414
01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:16,320
Speaker 2: colors are good. I like the colors.

2415
01:50:16,720 --> 01:50:19,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, but more than that, like the depth is amazing,

2416
01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:23,120
Speaker 1: you know, And he uses the ass well in this

2417
01:50:23,160 --> 01:50:23,920
Speaker 1: particular case.

2418
01:50:25,120 --> 01:50:28,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, good analysis there, he does use that, Yeah, he does, Luke.

2419
01:50:28,720 --> 01:50:30,080
Speaker 1: The whole point, the whole point is to be able

2420
01:50:30,160 --> 01:50:33,240
Speaker 1: to scale the entirety of it. That's the whole idea,

2421
01:50:33,320 --> 01:50:35,120
Speaker 1: rather than just sort of like fitting it where it

2422
01:50:35,120 --> 01:50:37,479
Speaker 1: doesn't need to be or it doesn't actually fit. And

2423
01:50:37,520 --> 01:50:39,240
Speaker 1: he scales it really well here.

2424
01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:45,280
Speaker 2: Real talk like how close do you go to the

2425
01:50:45,320 --> 01:50:46,960
Speaker 2: pieces when you do it? Like did you get the

2426
01:50:46,960 --> 01:50:49,320
Speaker 2: full grundle tatted up too? Or like where's the cutoff

2427
01:50:49,400 --> 01:50:51,000
Speaker 2: right on the outer.

2428
01:50:51,439 --> 01:50:53,400
Speaker 1: To they have to push the butt cheek aside and

2429
01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:54,240
Speaker 1: go in a little bit.

2430
01:50:54,320 --> 01:50:58,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, God, it's like the Starlac monster could come out

2431
01:50:58,680 --> 01:51:00,880
Speaker 2: of that, you know, Luke, It's wow.

2432
01:51:01,439 --> 01:51:03,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, they open it for the tattoo is like, is

2433
01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:05,360
Speaker 1: Bobaffect kind of come out of this?

2434
01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:08,439
Speaker 2: Wow? All right, Luke, I got you know, fifty eight

2435
01:51:08,520 --> 01:51:10,800
Speaker 2: d ms about this. They really want you to rate it.

2436
01:51:10,840 --> 01:51:13,360
Speaker 2: So rate this UFC super fan who got his leg

2437
01:51:13,439 --> 01:51:16,000
Speaker 2: done up. I'm assuming with all of its favorite fighters live.

2438
01:51:16,760 --> 01:51:19,719
Speaker 1: Okay, So I saw this one before. Here's what I'll say.

2439
01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:23,920
Speaker 1: The black and gray work the Rogan. It looks a

2440
01:51:24,160 --> 01:51:26,360
Speaker 1: little bit mangled at the top, but the photo's not great,

2441
01:51:26,400 --> 01:51:29,679
Speaker 1: so it's hard to say it's walking in general. In general,

2442
01:51:29,760 --> 01:51:32,799
Speaker 1: this is very, very good as a tattoo in general,

2443
01:51:33,960 --> 01:51:36,960
Speaker 1: and someone who did it clearly is like good at

2444
01:51:37,240 --> 01:51:39,040
Speaker 1: black and white or I should say black and gray

2445
01:51:39,080 --> 01:51:42,040
Speaker 1: portrait realism. However, I think if you got this on

2446
01:51:42,080 --> 01:51:43,840
Speaker 1: your on your leg as a leg s leave, it

2447
01:51:43,880 --> 01:51:46,559
Speaker 1: tells you two things. One, you probably have not been

2448
01:51:46,560 --> 01:51:49,920
Speaker 1: a fan longer than five years. This is like I

2449
01:51:49,960 --> 01:51:52,639
Speaker 1: am in the you know, MMA fans, they're like they

2450
01:51:52,720 --> 01:51:54,120
Speaker 1: kind of get into it, then they fall in love,

2451
01:51:54,160 --> 01:51:55,800
Speaker 1: then they get madly in love with it, and then

2452
01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:58,080
Speaker 1: they fade out after about seven or eight years. He's

2453
01:51:58,120 --> 01:52:01,000
Speaker 1: at the middle part where he's like madly in love. Also,

2454
01:52:01,040 --> 01:52:03,400
Speaker 1: if you've got this on your leg, I would recommend

2455
01:52:04,240 --> 01:52:06,479
Speaker 1: psychological counseling. I think probably.

2456
01:52:06,720 --> 01:52:07,639
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

2457
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:09,360
Speaker 1: Wow.

2458
01:52:09,479 --> 01:52:11,439
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I mean.

2459
01:52:11,960 --> 01:52:14,800
Speaker 1: If you're asking, is it a good tattoo for my

2460
01:52:15,040 --> 01:52:19,760
Speaker 1: tattoo technical application? Yes, yes it is. It's actually very good.

2461
01:52:20,520 --> 01:52:23,000
Speaker 1: What would you say that yourself? Ask yourself? Who the

2462
01:52:23,040 --> 01:52:24,439
Speaker 1: fuck does this? You know what I mean?

2463
01:52:24,520 --> 01:52:27,400
Speaker 2: Okay? What if I got every one hundred and fifteen

2464
01:52:27,400 --> 01:52:30,040
Speaker 2: pound champion in UFC history tattooed on one leg? Would

2465
01:52:30,040 --> 01:52:30,880
Speaker 2: you what would you say about that?

2466
01:52:31,000 --> 01:52:33,479
Speaker 1: Luke? I would be disappointed. You should only get the

2467
01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:35,519
Speaker 1: ones who got cut from the UFC. Those are the

2468
01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:38,440
Speaker 1: only ones I care about. Wow, wow, all.

2469
01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:43,040
Speaker 2: Right, Luke. Speaking of tattoos, NBA veteran Chris Birdman Anderson

2470
01:52:43,200 --> 01:52:46,000
Speaker 2: was caught running around the Summer League in Vegas this

2471
01:52:46,040 --> 01:52:48,880
Speaker 2: past week. Shut him out, Luke, look at this.

2472
01:52:49,000 --> 01:52:54,360
Speaker 1: Look at this fella Birdman. Birdman he is just he is.

2473
01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:57,479
Speaker 1: Would you have ever guessed that this guy looked like

2474
01:52:59,479 --> 01:53:01,439
Speaker 1: dude before he got all the tats and like grew

2475
01:53:01,479 --> 01:53:05,080
Speaker 1: the hair out. Do you know who Mason Plumbley is? Yeah,

2476
01:53:05,120 --> 01:53:06,960
Speaker 1: he kind of looked like Mason Plumley a little bit.

2477
01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:08,640
Speaker 1: But when he first got into the league. Look at

2478
01:53:08,720 --> 01:53:10,600
Speaker 1: him now, he looks like a Hell's angel.

2479
01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:13,240
Speaker 2: Do you think this gimmick still gets him laid?

2480
01:53:14,960 --> 01:53:19,599
Speaker 1: Well, he's huge, he should still have money, and uh

2481
01:53:19,640 --> 01:53:21,960
Speaker 1: he probably is well connected, so I'm gonna say. And

2482
01:53:22,000 --> 01:53:24,200
Speaker 1: he's also like what nearly seven ft dollar's probably got

2483
01:53:24,200 --> 01:53:26,600
Speaker 1: a dong the size of an eel, so probably.

2484
01:53:26,240 --> 01:53:29,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, my god, All right, here we are, uh, Luke,

2485
01:53:29,280 --> 01:53:31,559
Speaker 2: I got video proof of what it's like to be

2486
01:53:31,600 --> 01:53:34,840
Speaker 2: a first class uh patron on an airplane as you

2487
01:53:34,880 --> 01:53:38,200
Speaker 2: walk your waddle your way down to coach, crop dusting

2488
01:53:38,280 --> 01:53:48,880
Speaker 2: the whole way. Here's some video footage. Oh wow, wow.

2489
01:53:49,200 --> 01:53:52,000
Speaker 1: Does Luke is this? Let me let me just explain

2490
01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:54,479
Speaker 1: something to you. If you know anyone who wears shorts

2491
01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:57,800
Speaker 1: like this, there's a one hundred chance at some point

2492
01:53:57,840 --> 01:53:59,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to bail them out of jail.

2493
01:53:59,720 --> 01:54:03,880
Speaker 2: Just to give Luke, I have an awesome younger uncle,

2494
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:06,360
Speaker 2: Uncle Dave, my guy, and I tell my kids the

2495
01:54:06,400 --> 01:54:08,400
Speaker 2: story about my whole youth. He would wake me up

2496
01:54:08,439 --> 01:54:11,040
Speaker 2: by farting directly on top of my face, like just

2497
01:54:11,120 --> 01:54:13,240
Speaker 2: that's that was the thing that was the gimmick, right,

2498
01:54:13,520 --> 01:54:16,840
Speaker 2: and it was just accepted. Is this all limits in

2499
01:54:16,880 --> 01:54:18,680
Speaker 2: your marriage. Look, I don't want to push too far.

2500
01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:20,800
Speaker 2: I don't want to go too far in this conversation.

2501
01:54:21,200 --> 01:54:23,320
Speaker 1: But like I will say, I don't do this. My

2502
01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:27,240
Speaker 1: wife would truly stab me in the stomach with a

2503
01:54:27,280 --> 01:54:29,639
Speaker 1: pair of scissors if I did. But I will say,

2504
01:54:29,680 --> 01:54:32,360
Speaker 1: do I audibly pass gas in front of her, at

2505
01:54:32,360 --> 01:54:34,320
Speaker 1: which point she screams Coachino at me.

2506
01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:37,680
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I do Dutch of it, or that's too personal.

2507
01:54:38,480 --> 01:54:39,880
Speaker 1: No, I don't do that. I don't do that.

2508
01:54:39,920 --> 01:54:42,760
Speaker 2: Okay, Cleveland step just know I'm not.

2509
01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:47,600
Speaker 1: And my wife. Can we move on please? Luke?

2510
01:54:47,640 --> 01:54:49,640
Speaker 2: You know the the young trend that we missed. We

2511
01:54:49,640 --> 01:54:52,320
Speaker 2: missed Edward forty hands we were too old. We also

2512
01:54:52,400 --> 01:54:55,400
Speaker 2: missed this poka beer and shotgun it. But it's hard

2513
01:54:55,400 --> 01:54:57,440
Speaker 2: to open the can sometimes you need help. Just ask

2514
01:54:57,480 --> 01:54:58,200
Speaker 2: the tooth fairy.

2515
01:54:58,280 --> 01:55:07,000
Speaker 1: Luke, you know what, you know what, that's just dubt ingenuity.

2516
01:55:07,040 --> 01:55:09,400
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hate on that, okay, all right, I mean,

2517
01:55:09,560 --> 01:55:11,400
Speaker 1: you know in ingenuity.

2518
01:55:11,560 --> 01:55:14,120
Speaker 2: That's like I always wear those sandals that have the

2519
01:55:14,160 --> 01:55:15,320
Speaker 2: bottle opener on the bottom.

2520
01:55:15,360 --> 01:55:17,440
Speaker 1: Luke, Yeah, I see, see who the fuck does that

2521
01:55:17,520 --> 01:55:19,000
Speaker 1: with the bottom of the thing. But you know.

2522
01:55:19,600 --> 01:55:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've stepped in shit in those sandals and I've

2523
01:55:21,600 --> 01:55:23,320
Speaker 2: opened your beer if you hung out with me, So

2524
01:55:23,400 --> 01:55:26,560
Speaker 2: thank you very much, Luke. Speaking of shotgunning a beer,

2525
01:55:26,600 --> 01:55:29,040
Speaker 2: there's easier ways to do it. What do you think

2526
01:55:29,080 --> 01:55:30,160
Speaker 2: about this guy's method?

2527
01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:41,360
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I mean, all right, this this this guy.

2528
01:55:41,480 --> 01:55:43,480
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. This guy, if he hasn't

2529
01:55:43,480 --> 01:55:48,960
Speaker 1: already one guarantee, the LT one guarantee, he's going to

2530
01:55:49,000 --> 01:55:52,120
Speaker 1: get a Darwin Award, just inevitable.

2531
01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:55,520
Speaker 2: Shout out to look at this American on on Instagram

2532
01:55:55,560 --> 01:55:57,400
Speaker 2: and he may have this T shirt that I'm wearing

2533
01:55:57,440 --> 01:55:59,960
Speaker 2: in his closet. You'd never know, Luke, Luke, check this out.

2534
01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:03,360
Speaker 2: Serious for a second. Top Rank had a boxing broadcast

2535
01:56:03,400 --> 01:56:05,720
Speaker 2: over the weekend on ESPN. They ran a feature of

2536
01:56:05,800 --> 01:56:08,480
Speaker 2: Mark Kriegel sitting down with Tao Femo Lopez Junior, who's

2537
01:56:08,480 --> 01:56:11,120
Speaker 2: coming back August sixth to make his debut at one forty.

2538
01:56:11,600 --> 01:56:14,879
Speaker 2: But Luke, we know about Tao Femo falling apart against

2539
01:56:15,600 --> 01:56:18,640
Speaker 2: against cambosis, but we did find out afterwards about the

2540
01:56:18,640 --> 01:56:20,920
Speaker 2: medical condition, and in this sit down, it's kind of

2541
01:56:20,920 --> 01:56:24,080
Speaker 2: a puff piece about Tayo Femo having the tear in

2542
01:56:24,120 --> 01:56:27,040
Speaker 2: his esophagus or larynx. I think he should have pulled

2543
01:56:27,040 --> 01:56:29,280
Speaker 2: out of the fight. He fought anyway, he risked his life.

2544
01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:32,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if we always give him that grace

2545
01:56:32,920 --> 01:56:35,360
Speaker 2: or benefit of the doubt or that credit, because we've

2546
01:56:35,360 --> 01:56:39,760
Speaker 2: also seen him make ridiculously ridiculous comments afterwards about de

2547
01:56:39,960 --> 01:56:41,960
Speaker 2: own paying the judges off so that he would lose

2548
01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:45,560
Speaker 2: the fight. But did you see this tweet? And more importantly,

2549
01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:48,120
Speaker 2: who retweeted it? So this was a tweet that some

2550
01:56:48,160 --> 01:56:50,680
Speaker 2: guy named Vince Cummings put out saying can they produce

2551
01:56:50,720 --> 01:56:53,800
Speaker 2: a doctor or medical paperwork to back up this near

2552
01:56:53,880 --> 01:56:56,600
Speaker 2: death experience? Because ain't no way. I'm just taking these

2553
01:56:56,640 --> 01:56:59,520
Speaker 2: two clowns at their word. You know who retweeted that?

2554
01:57:00,200 --> 01:57:03,880
Speaker 2: Top Ranks Hall of Fame matchmaker Bruce Trampler.

2555
01:57:04,480 --> 01:57:11,360
Speaker 1: Damn the current matchmaker. Yes, so the current matchmaker retweeted,

2556
01:57:11,480 --> 01:57:14,000
Speaker 1: who's this guy? Who tweeted it? By this guy? Evince?

2557
01:57:14,000 --> 01:57:14,280
Speaker 1: Who is?

2558
01:57:14,400 --> 01:57:16,640
Speaker 2: I don't know? I do, I'm gonna apologize to you.

2559
01:57:17,320 --> 01:57:19,280
Speaker 2: He may be in the business. I don't know. I'd

2560
01:57:19,280 --> 01:57:19,960
Speaker 2: have to look it up.

2561
01:57:20,640 --> 01:57:25,280
Speaker 1: Uh that's a bad sign. That's a real bad sign.

2562
01:57:25,640 --> 01:57:28,480
Speaker 1: Jesus so you, what is your level of confidence he

2563
01:57:28,520 --> 01:57:29,920
Speaker 1: actually suffered this medical ailment.

2564
01:57:30,400 --> 01:57:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I want to be in good faith,

2565
01:57:33,040 --> 01:57:35,120
Speaker 2: and you know, I do think he's tough enough to

2566
01:57:35,160 --> 01:57:37,960
Speaker 2: fight through something like that and still put on that performance.

2567
01:57:37,960 --> 01:57:39,880
Speaker 2: But look, it's it's basically people always said we were

2568
01:57:39,880 --> 01:57:42,200
Speaker 2: shitting on cambosis. Yet you and I have always said

2569
01:57:42,200 --> 01:57:44,400
Speaker 2: from the beginning, no matter what you want to point

2570
01:57:44,440 --> 01:57:47,400
Speaker 2: the blame to and why Tayo Femo fought that badly,

2571
01:57:48,080 --> 01:57:49,880
Speaker 2: most of the reason why you and I believe that

2572
01:57:49,920 --> 01:57:52,480
Speaker 2: fight went that way it did was because he wasn't

2573
01:57:52,520 --> 01:57:55,320
Speaker 2: even close to one percent mentally and physically, like that

2574
01:57:55,400 --> 01:57:58,440
Speaker 2: was a bad strategy, horrible night at the office, everything.

2575
01:57:58,800 --> 01:58:01,520
Speaker 2: If you're telling me there was also an underlying medical condition,

2576
01:58:01,600 --> 01:58:03,760
Speaker 2: well I kind of could agree with that, because that

2577
01:58:03,840 --> 01:58:06,560
Speaker 2: wasn't tail Fema Lopez that night. Yet he still went

2578
01:58:06,640 --> 01:58:10,520
Speaker 2: the distance in an action fight. I'd lean more towards

2579
01:58:10,600 --> 01:58:12,680
Speaker 2: believing him, but I do. I do have to say

2580
01:58:13,120 --> 01:58:15,760
Speaker 2: his credibility is has taken a huge hit from all

2581
01:58:15,760 --> 01:58:16,800
Speaker 2: those comments afterwards.

2582
01:58:16,880 --> 01:58:20,880
Speaker 1: Ye, there's no denying his credibility tanked afterwards for a

2583
01:58:20,880 --> 01:58:23,560
Speaker 1: lot of good reasons. By the way, I will say

2584
01:58:23,640 --> 01:58:28,920
Speaker 1: if even top rank management essentially is retweeting shit like that.

2585
01:58:28,920 --> 01:58:31,240
Speaker 1: That is a terrible sign for him.

2586
01:58:31,520 --> 01:58:34,160
Speaker 2: Terrible unless Bruce is retired and I don't know it.

2587
01:58:34,200 --> 01:58:36,880
Speaker 2: But either way, Luke, it's still it's still in house, right,

2588
01:58:36,920 --> 01:58:37,720
Speaker 2: It's still in house.

2589
01:58:37,760 --> 01:58:39,920
Speaker 1: So that's interesting, Luke.

2590
01:58:39,960 --> 01:58:43,160
Speaker 2: This unlucky lady is a model and she does her

2591
01:58:43,240 --> 01:58:47,000
Speaker 2: thing on the catwalk. Yeah, on the catwalk, Luke. She

2592
01:58:47,120 --> 01:58:50,840
Speaker 2: shakes her thing on the she used to it.

2593
01:58:51,080 --> 01:58:58,600
Speaker 1: God time to say goodbye. Yeah there, dude, best here's

2594
01:58:58,600 --> 01:59:02,720
Speaker 1: the best part. Watch yo. She just loses both shoes.

2595
01:59:02,760 --> 01:59:05,400
Speaker 1: Both shoes just go flying. Yeah.

2596
01:59:05,400 --> 01:59:07,320
Speaker 2: Some people not made for heels, Luke, including me.

2597
01:59:07,360 --> 01:59:07,600
Speaker 1: I don't.

2598
01:59:07,640 --> 01:59:09,080
Speaker 2: I don't know how you can walk in that. That'd

2599
01:59:09,080 --> 01:59:10,360
Speaker 2: be insane.

2600
01:59:10,880 --> 01:59:12,520
Speaker 1: Your ankles have been shattered. So that's fun.

2601
01:59:12,760 --> 01:59:16,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, they say everything's bigger in Texas, including the head trauma.

2602
01:59:16,480 --> 01:59:18,920
Speaker 2: Why do we run so many pinata clips lately, Luke,

2603
01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:20,640
Speaker 2: But I figure you'll enjoy this.

2604
01:59:21,560 --> 01:59:23,640
Speaker 1: Get the kids away from the I mean, what are

2605
01:59:23,640 --> 01:59:26,960
Speaker 1: we doing just these fucking morons, these morons, what is

2606
01:59:26,960 --> 01:59:33,760
Speaker 1: thisbelieva grabbing ship? Look at that and it's in the state.

2607
01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:36,440
Speaker 1: Look at it? Oh Jesus, I mean, can you get

2608
01:59:36,520 --> 01:59:39,520
Speaker 1: the other kids away from this, you fucking morons. And

2609
01:59:39,520 --> 01:59:41,840
Speaker 1: by the way, aren't you supposed to be blindfolded? This

2610
01:59:41,880 --> 01:59:43,360
Speaker 1: is the celebration.

2611
01:59:44,920 --> 01:59:48,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not good, not poor parenting. Look, we do

2612
01:59:48,200 --> 01:59:50,200
Speaker 2: like you're always ripping white people in the segment, but

2613
01:59:50,240 --> 01:59:51,960
Speaker 2: we do like fat white people that fight each other,

2614
01:59:52,040 --> 01:59:54,920
Speaker 2: right b KFC put on a put on a fat

2615
01:59:54,960 --> 01:59:56,600
Speaker 2: white barn burner on Friday.

2616
01:59:56,640 --> 01:59:59,120
Speaker 1: Look at this, dude, these guys. You know, you could

2617
01:59:59,120 --> 02:00:01,040
Speaker 1: say what people people bag on this kind of shit.

2618
02:00:01,080 --> 02:00:03,080
Speaker 1: I guess, like, I guarantee you these guys have knocked

2619
02:00:03,080 --> 02:00:07,400
Speaker 1: out some some several dudes in parking lots. I guarantee you.

2620
02:00:07,480 --> 02:00:10,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, in men's rooms. Yeah, definitely, no questions about.

2621
02:00:10,320 --> 02:00:14,280
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. These guys have had serious fisticuffs outside

2622
02:00:14,320 --> 02:00:15,280
Speaker 1: of a hooter somewhere.

2623
02:00:15,880 --> 02:00:17,880
Speaker 2: All right, Luke you we're gonna we got a couple

2624
02:00:17,920 --> 02:00:20,600
Speaker 2: more here. You know my favorite segment on this show, lukedo.

2625
02:00:21,240 --> 02:00:24,960
Speaker 2: Would you eat it? Luke? Okay, let's start off this.

2626
02:00:25,080 --> 02:00:31,800
Speaker 2: I believe they're called Oreo popsicles. Would you eat.

2627
02:00:31,680 --> 02:00:35,880
Speaker 1: Okay, let's see here. Yes, of course I'd eat that.

2628
02:00:35,880 --> 02:00:37,280
Speaker 2: That looks ingenious, right.

2629
02:00:37,200 --> 02:00:39,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, they sell us what's wrong? With yeah, you act

2630
02:00:39,360 --> 02:00:42,480
Speaker 1: like this is like, yo, we put road salt and

2631
02:00:42,840 --> 02:00:45,520
Speaker 1: broken glass into a palletta eat that shit?

2632
02:00:45,520 --> 02:00:47,600
Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, well we may get there on

2633
02:00:47,640 --> 02:00:49,320
Speaker 2: this segment. All right, let's go with the second one.

2634
02:00:49,320 --> 02:00:50,680
Speaker 2: This is from Manchester, England.

2635
02:00:50,760 --> 02:00:54,440
Speaker 1: Luke, I think they called this you know, it's already good.

2636
02:00:54,560 --> 02:00:57,080
Speaker 2: They call this a waffle cake. Luke.

2637
02:01:00,200 --> 02:01:03,560
Speaker 1: Uh oh, it's just in the shape of a dicky.

2638
02:01:04,960 --> 02:01:07,640
Speaker 2: So back to the original question, Luke, would you eat?

2639
02:01:08,160 --> 02:01:09,760
Speaker 1: Oh? So, let me get this straight. So the bit

2640
02:01:09,840 --> 02:01:12,400
Speaker 1: of this place is the waffles may or may not

2641
02:01:12,440 --> 02:01:14,080
Speaker 1: be Take a look at that.

2642
02:01:15,400 --> 02:01:18,839
Speaker 2: Is that the is that the eggers meats insertion saucel?

2643
02:01:19,320 --> 02:01:21,760
Speaker 1: Is that really? I mean, what are we This is terrible?

2644
02:01:22,040 --> 02:01:24,560
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay.

2645
02:01:24,000 --> 02:01:26,800
Speaker 1: But yes, I'd eat it. Yes, I'd love to get.

2646
02:01:26,640 --> 02:01:28,160
Speaker 2: That on camera. I really would.

2647
02:01:28,280 --> 02:01:28,640
Speaker 1: All right.

2648
02:01:28,720 --> 02:01:31,960
Speaker 2: Number three, Luke, we get a little more exotic this time.

2649
02:01:34,160 --> 02:01:36,880
Speaker 2: Would you eat.

2650
02:01:37,440 --> 02:01:38,800
Speaker 1: So batter with the pickles?

2651
02:01:39,280 --> 02:01:45,120
Speaker 2: Pickle pop fried pickle, breaded fried pickle dipped into peanut butter.

2652
02:01:46,160 --> 02:01:47,960
Speaker 1: I don't know about the peanut butter, but I'd eat it.

2653
02:01:48,080 --> 02:01:50,320
Speaker 2: Yes, I wouldn't go near this, you know what, you know,

2654
02:01:50,360 --> 02:01:54,120
Speaker 2: pickles really are Luke, cucumbers and desized in disguise f cucumbers.

2655
02:01:54,360 --> 02:01:58,360
Speaker 1: Yes, they've been brined like that's yeah, the worst discovering

2656
02:01:58,400 --> 02:01:59,160
Speaker 1: how food works.

2657
02:01:59,440 --> 02:02:02,640
Speaker 2: I wouldn't go there, that phatic looking piece of street

2658
02:02:02,720 --> 02:02:03,160
Speaker 2: fair food.

2659
02:02:03,320 --> 02:02:03,480
Speaker 1: Luke.

2660
02:02:03,560 --> 02:02:06,320
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I might try this next one though,

2661
02:02:06,480 --> 02:02:09,360
Speaker 2: luc I think they call this a ravioli dog. Your

2662
02:02:09,400 --> 02:02:15,680
Speaker 2: thoughts the you know, I could be swayed. Did you

2663
02:02:15,720 --> 02:02:17,640
Speaker 2: try this? I'm not I'm not kidding, dude.

2664
02:02:17,680 --> 02:02:19,280
Speaker 1: It's like, would you eat this? I'm like, is this

2665
02:02:19,360 --> 02:02:20,200
Speaker 1: my last meal?

2666
02:02:20,280 --> 02:02:20,360
Speaker 3: On?

2667
02:02:21,040 --> 02:02:25,760
Speaker 1: What the fuck? Is this? All right? Luke? So uh,

2668
02:02:25,880 --> 02:02:27,960
Speaker 1: you know you ever been like a in your twenties.

2669
02:02:28,000 --> 02:02:29,560
Speaker 1: You're just trying to find shit in the in the

2670
02:02:29,560 --> 02:02:31,720
Speaker 1: fridge to make You're like, all right, I've got three

2671
02:02:31,800 --> 02:02:35,360
Speaker 1: hot dog buns, I've got yogurt, I've got some peanut butter,

2672
02:02:35,720 --> 02:02:38,400
Speaker 1: I've got two ravioli that I kind of ate but

2673
02:02:38,640 --> 02:02:41,600
Speaker 1: left over. I got a can of baked beans. I've

2674
02:02:41,640 --> 02:02:46,160
Speaker 1: got some catchup whiskey and some potato chips. What can

2675
02:02:46,200 --> 02:02:47,080
Speaker 1: I make? It's like.

2676
02:02:48,600 --> 02:02:51,240
Speaker 2: Real talk, though, If you don't put the baked beans

2677
02:02:51,320 --> 02:02:53,440
Speaker 2: on the hot dog and then the ketchup over it,

2678
02:02:54,040 --> 02:02:55,680
Speaker 2: do you are you really playing the same game as me.

2679
02:02:56,120 --> 02:02:59,600
Speaker 1: You really baked beans on hot dogs are for simpletons.

2680
02:02:59,640 --> 02:03:00,400
Speaker 1: I just want you don't know.

2681
02:03:00,440 --> 02:03:03,240
Speaker 2: That simpletons are for geniuses? Luke, Are you kidding me?

2682
02:03:04,720 --> 02:03:07,040
Speaker 1: Simpletons the palette of a toddler.

2683
02:03:07,240 --> 02:03:10,160
Speaker 2: Nothing in the world tastes better than the baked bean

2684
02:03:10,360 --> 02:03:12,640
Speaker 2: brown sauce. And I think that you know, deep like

2685
02:03:13,040 --> 02:03:15,600
Speaker 2: deep inside, given where you where you come from, you

2686
02:03:15,640 --> 02:03:17,400
Speaker 2: know that's true, Luke. You freaking know that's true.

2687
02:03:17,480 --> 02:03:19,160
Speaker 1: No, I don't, And I think you're disgusting.

2688
02:03:20,280 --> 02:03:22,520
Speaker 2: All right, Finally I got one more for you, Luke,

2689
02:03:22,560 --> 02:03:24,520
Speaker 2: tell me, tell me the truth or telling me to

2690
02:03:24,640 --> 02:03:27,880
Speaker 2: f off. I think I've found your dream uber, and

2691
02:03:27,960 --> 02:03:31,560
Speaker 2: I'm going to hire these guys everywhere we go together

2692
02:03:31,640 --> 02:03:33,400
Speaker 2: for at least the next year. You're telling us.

2693
02:03:40,560 --> 02:03:48,320
Speaker 1: Three there's four dudes, one job among them? Oh God,

2694
02:03:49,040 --> 02:03:50,120
Speaker 1: are the peers?

2695
02:03:53,040 --> 02:03:54,800
Speaker 2: That's what you look like, Luke.

2696
02:03:55,560 --> 02:03:57,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. It is the worst habit on earth.

2697
02:03:58,000 --> 02:03:59,960
Speaker 1: I can't believe. I really hope these guys gotten a

2698
02:04:00,080 --> 02:04:01,080
Speaker 1: car wreck. I really do.

2699
02:04:04,120 --> 02:04:06,680
Speaker 2: All right, that's the ship for the for this week. Luke.

2700
02:04:06,760 --> 02:04:08,320
Speaker 2: Hope you hope you look like?

2701
02:04:08,400 --> 02:04:09,840
Speaker 1: Did? Hope you so it was good? You did a

2702
02:04:09,880 --> 02:04:11,520
Speaker 1: good job, dude, did a good job. Well, let me

2703
02:04:11,560 --> 02:04:13,920
Speaker 1: just remind everyone it is BC's birthday. Why don't you

2704
02:04:13,920 --> 02:04:16,280
Speaker 1: throw up the social handles there for the Mulka folks

2705
02:04:16,280 --> 02:04:18,560
Speaker 1: so we can see what they are. Send BC a

2706
02:04:18,640 --> 02:04:21,000
Speaker 1: DM put some dogs in it. He's into that, but

2707
02:04:21,080 --> 02:04:24,600
Speaker 1: either way, send him a happy birthday message. My man's

2708
02:04:24,680 --> 02:04:28,680
Speaker 1: forty four big day. You got any any plans? I mean,

2709
02:04:28,720 --> 02:04:30,920
Speaker 1: I guess you're going on vacation this weekend for the Yeah,

2710
02:04:30,960 --> 02:04:34,000
Speaker 1: I'm going on. You've taken two vacations before I've even

2711
02:04:34,040 --> 02:04:35,080
Speaker 1: taken one, I mean.

2712
02:04:35,200 --> 02:04:38,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, So this was this was the makeup for that

2713
02:04:38,200 --> 02:04:41,040
Speaker 2: that April trip to Colorado and you tie to cancel

2714
02:04:41,040 --> 02:04:43,760
Speaker 2: because my son was really sick. So it did end

2715
02:04:43,800 --> 02:04:45,960
Speaker 2: up being And look, they're always an opportunity. I always

2716
02:04:46,000 --> 02:04:49,160
Speaker 2: schedule these things and then you find out two weeks later, oh,

2717
02:04:49,280 --> 02:04:51,000
Speaker 2: guess what, we're playing a pay per view for that week.

2718
02:04:51,040 --> 02:04:55,320
Speaker 2: So it always happens that way. But the DC trip

2719
02:04:55,360 --> 02:04:57,680
Speaker 2: was kind of like a weekend getaway, and originally you

2720
02:04:57,680 --> 02:04:59,240
Speaker 2: and I were going to do the show from there,

2721
02:04:59,280 --> 02:05:01,280
Speaker 2: and then things just kind of fell apart, Luke, people

2722
02:05:01,320 --> 02:05:01,800
Speaker 2: got sick.

2723
02:05:01,880 --> 02:05:05,400
Speaker 1: You know how that works, all right, well, enjoy your time,

2724
02:05:05,560 --> 02:05:08,120
Speaker 1: whether you celebrate or not. Happy forty fourth to you

2725
02:05:08,800 --> 02:05:10,520
Speaker 1: if you want to. I want to remind everyone there

2726
02:05:10,600 --> 02:05:14,680
Speaker 1: is Showtime Championship Boxing on Saturday. I'll be there at

2727
02:05:14,680 --> 02:05:17,200
Speaker 1: the Barclay Center. So go to Showtime dot com for

2728
02:05:17,280 --> 02:05:18,680
Speaker 1: a thirty day free trial. If you like it, you

2729
02:05:18,720 --> 02:05:20,080
Speaker 1: can keep it. If not, do whatever you want with

2730
02:05:20,120 --> 02:05:23,520
Speaker 1: your life. But it is there. You can get some merch. Huh,

2731
02:05:23,600 --> 02:05:26,760
Speaker 1: some merch. Morningcombat dot store. I'm kind of leading in

2732
02:05:26,760 --> 02:05:29,640
Speaker 1: the wrong way like a jackass, but there you have it.

2733
02:05:29,800 --> 02:05:33,120
Speaker 1: There's the available one there and morning Combat at gmail

2734
02:05:33,120 --> 02:05:36,000
Speaker 1: dot com. Wednesdays fan subs Friday's dead wrong or to

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Speaker 1: reach out to the producers BC and I don't see it,

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Speaker 1: so you won't have to put us in the email,

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Speaker 1: but the but the producers do, so have a gander

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Speaker 1: there b see any final thoughts on this wonderful birthday

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Speaker 1: of yours.

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Speaker 2: No, my wife bought me Boston Cream Pie though yesterday,

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Speaker 2: so that's gonna be a nice nice.

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Speaker 1: I'll probably get you mean, like the donut.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they make a pie version of the donut. It's

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Speaker 2: the best thing that ever happened.

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Speaker 1: I've never had that. That's sounds unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing. Just to be fair, it's not as good

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Speaker 2: as the donut, but it's kind of the donuts flavor

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Speaker 2: in a cake. It's amazing, right, So yeah, do I

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Speaker 2: say pie, I meant cake. It's cake.

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Speaker 1: Looke, Okay, okay, either way. Cake is better than pie anyway,

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Speaker 1: and little let anyone tell you otherwise. All right, we

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Speaker 1: will be tons of content. I want to remind you

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Speaker 1: I've got an interview on recording later today.

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Speaker 2: So was BC NA Big Names, Big Names? You and

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Speaker 2: I are interviewing Big One.

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Speaker 1: Yes indeed, and also pregame preview will be up very

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Speaker 1: very soon. So tons of content coming your way. YouTube

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Speaker 1: dot com slash Morning Combat is the place to get it.

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Speaker 1: And we're gonna keep you busy. We're gonna keep you

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Speaker 1: busy for a while. So for BC, for Malka, for

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Speaker 1: CBS Sports and Showtime, I'm Luke Thomas. This has been

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Speaker 1: Morning Combat. Happy birthday to the King of Connecticut. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you guys on Wednesday, and until then, all of

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Speaker 1: your games be loyal.