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Speaker 1: Breakingpoints dot Com. Good morning, everybody, Happy Thursday. We have

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Speaker 1: an amazing show for everybody today. What do we have, Crystal?

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Speaker 1: Indeed we do, guys. It has happened. Nicki Haley has

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Speaker 1: officially entered the race for twenty twenty four. Get excited.

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Speaker 1: We've got all the highlights. She's already embarrassing herself with

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Speaker 1: Hannity last night, so we'll show you all of that. Also,

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Speaker 1: they are also warning, you know, guys, we just may

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Speaker 1: not be able to get any of that debris. We

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Speaker 1: We also have an update from Ohio, actually a number

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Speaker 1: potential cover up unfolding. Residents are told to drink bottled water,

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Speaker 1: that ultimately derailed because of lack's safety provisions. They bailed

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Speaker 1: on a public town hall they were supposed to attend

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Speaker 1: last night. People are absolutely outraged, as they should be,

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Speaker 1: so we have all of the details. There also some

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Speaker 1: we've got a great moment for you from Andrea Mitchell

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Speaker 1: and John Bolton that you just go. You gotta check out.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of layers there. You can't miss this one,

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Speaker 1: all right. Well, let's start with the woman herself, Nikki Haley,

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Speaker 1: officially launching her campaign yesterday, delivering her launch speech heavy

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Speaker 1: maybe to Trump, definitely to Biden. Let's sigalism and take

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Speaker 1: it from me, the first minority female governor in history.

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Speaker 1: America is not a racist country. We're ready, ready to

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Speaker 1: the permanent politician will finally retire. We'll have term limits

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Speaker 1: for Congress and natory mental competency tests for politicians over

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Speaker 1: of those where they have got to at least assure

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Speaker 1: and tell the public about what's going on. And we know,

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Speaker 1: we know, but all the way from over twenty years.

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Speaker 1: Now that you have internal video that can be released

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Speaker 1: as have been released with the UFO videos. One of

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Speaker 1: the things that struck me the most where some of

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Speaker 1: the comments from senators after the classified briefing, where they

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Speaker 1: were honestly outraged with the Biden administration. This was bipartisan. Actually,

434
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Speaker 1: they were like, this has been going on for years.

435
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Speaker 1: They didn't tell us anything, We have no idea, and

436
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Speaker 1: we have got to answer more questions about what's going on.

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Speaker 1: Senator John Kennedy and others reacted immediately on Capitol Hill.

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Speaker 1: Here's what they had to say. I just know that

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Speaker 1: going into the last two hearings, I had the impression

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Speaker 1: that this was something that had happened over the last

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Speaker 1: two weeks, and that's not accurate. This has been going

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Speaker 1: on a long time. Now that this cow was out

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Speaker 1: of the barn, the President and the Director of National

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Speaker 1: Intelligence needs to address it. They need to explain to

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Speaker 1: the American people if they know and I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: they know. If they know, they're not telling us what

447
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 1: these things are, who put them up there? And do

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Speaker 1: they pose a threat to the American people? And the

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Speaker 1: Director of National Intelligence coordinates all that, she is a

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Speaker 1: cabinet level officer. She needs to come brief the United

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Speaker 1: States Congress, and then she and President Biden need to

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Speaker 1: talk straight to the American people. Would answer just answered

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Speaker 1: bation questions. A lot of frustration on Capitol Hill, Senator

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Speaker 1: Tom Cotton saying the same thing, Senator Dick Durbin, many

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Speaker 1: of these people saying the saying they're like, hey, look,

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Speaker 1: we didn't learn anything. Tom Cotton was like, I learned

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Speaker 1: more from reading the news than I did from the

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Speaker 1: classified briefing. And I just want to say again, if

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Speaker 1: they thought it was really a balloon, they would have

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Speaker 1: said so. If they had any confidence that it was

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Speaker 1: something that they could identify positively, they would have told Congress,

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Speaker 1: what do you also learn from that? Especially from Senator

463
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Speaker 1: Kennedy's comments, this has been going on for a long time.

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Speaker 1: It's exactly what we've been saying here for years now

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Speaker 1: in the discussion of this topic, and the revelations are

466
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Speaker 1: really is that whenever you uncalibrate the radar from where

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Speaker 1: it previously was, it turns out you're going to find

468
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Speaker 1: all sorts of things that are flying up in your airsprace, Crystal,

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Speaker 1: you had that idea that maybe they're just going to

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Speaker 1: recalibrate back. I would not put it pass them. They're like,

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Speaker 1: we don't want to deal with this, we don't want

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Speaker 1: to look at it. So maybe they already did that,

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Speaker 1: like liveen ignorance was blissless, just go back to that regime.

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Speaker 1: I think that's very likely, yeah, I mean, and also

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Speaker 1: in terms of stuff coming out on the Chinese balloon,

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Speaker 1: currently Intelligence says that we actually watched the balloon take

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Speaker 1: off from Hainan Island. The Chinese are saying, apparently with

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Speaker 1: some earnestness, trying to tamp down the tensions, they're like, look,

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Speaker 1: we only meant for it to fly over Hawaii, and

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Speaker 1: like we didn't mean for it to drift well up here.

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Speaker 1: I mean, according to the reporting, the US is actually

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Speaker 1: actually kind of buying Yeah, they're like that that's the case,

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Speaker 1: because yeah, they watched it take I guess there were

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Speaker 1: unusual weather patterns and there were actually some indication that

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Speaker 1: after it was spotted in Wantana or whatever the Chinese

486
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Speaker 1: were actually trying to bring back anyway, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: But the other piece that was interesting to me, I

488
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Speaker 1: think it was in that same article that's in the

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Speaker 1: New York Times about the Chinese by balloon they're getting

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Speaker 1: from their administration sources that oh, we think that these

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Speaker 1: other balloons were probably like weather balloons that were defunct

492
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Speaker 1: and it was basically just like air debris or trash.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean? Like, yeah, well, I mean, first

494
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Speaker 1: of all, we need proof. Yeah, I mean that's number one,

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Speaker 1: washesn't fly around the static and forty thousand feet for

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Speaker 1: hours on end. Well, and also, you use two hell

497
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Speaker 1: fire missiles to take down a frickin' dead weather balloon. Really, really,

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Speaker 1: And as we have pointed out already, the fact that

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Speaker 1: they are unwilling to say like, oh, it was a balloon,

500
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Speaker 1: that one dude was like, there's a reason I'm saying

501
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Speaker 1: it's an object not a balloon. Again, there's a lot

502
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Speaker 1: of reason to be skeptical about any of these claims,

503
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Speaker 1: but it's revealing the things that they leak to the Times.

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Speaker 1: They can't say it outright because they have no proof,

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Speaker 1: but they can suggest on background like, oh, this is

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Speaker 1: what we really think it is. Judging by the reactions

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Speaker 1: of members who came out of that briefing, I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: put too much stock in that particular explanation. And Sener

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Speaker 1: Kennedy made this very eerie comment, very cryptic comment. He

510
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Speaker 1: was like, all I'm going to say is lock your

511
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Speaker 1: doors tonight. Yeah, exactly, And look what from what I've tried.

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Speaker 1: I've talked my people on Capitol Hill. Senator Rubio, Senator

513
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Speaker 1: Jillibrand both have been warriors on this issue, and they

514
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Speaker 1: are the ones who are the most read in They

515
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Speaker 1: genuinely seem afraid of the fact that we don't know

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Speaker 1: what's going on. They've pushed for transparency now for two years.

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Speaker 1: At every single time, the Pentagon, the DNI, the Director

518
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Speaker 1: of National Intelligence that he mentioned there have obfuscated and

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Speaker 1: withheld evidence from them. We also from Director Ratcliffe, former

520
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Speaker 1: director under Donald Trump, Mike Pompeo. Many of them do

521
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Speaker 1: not report having seen any of the major intelligence. This

522
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Speaker 1: is one of those where I really believe it is

523
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Speaker 1: such highly special, compartmentalized information that they are willing in

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Speaker 1: some ways to keep it away from leadership. And from

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Speaker 1: the elected officials told us before. John Podesta, who is

526
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Speaker 1: the White House Chief of staff, he's actually a big

527
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Speaker 1: UFO guy. He tried to get to the bottom of

528
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Speaker 1: this whenever he was the White House Chief of staff

529
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Speaker 1: to Bill Clinton, and they basically were like, go away,

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Speaker 1: we're not telling you anything. President Clinton is on video.

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Speaker 1: You can actually go watch the clip if you're interested.

532
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Speaker 1: Where he's like, I'm embarrassed to admit I tried to

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Speaker 1: find out and they wouldn't really tell me. And so, hey,

534
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Speaker 1: who's the commander in chief. In the nineties, things have

535
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Speaker 1: changed somewhat in terms of some of the transparency pushes

536
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Speaker 1: and all of that. And by the way, some indication

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Speaker 1: that our show has made some difference, at least in

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Speaker 1: the Pentagon. They're getting a little riled up over Jeremy

539
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Speaker 1: Corbel's comments by specifically calling people out here on our show.

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Speaker 1: So that's good. We're making a bit of a tent.

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Speaker 1: I think that's great. And the point is that we

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Speaker 1: have to continue to push, push and push. At the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, all we really do have control

544
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Speaker 1: over is public pressure, not just on the executive but

545
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Speaker 1: on Congress, and Congress is pissed I really think they

546
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: should be final thing. Let's put this up there. As

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Speaker 1: we alluded to, the President is weighing the possibility of

548
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Speaker 1: a Biden address on UFOs. It looks like it'll come

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Speaker 1: at some time today. I don't think it's going to

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Speaker 1: be a primetime address, like a nine PM type thing.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he'll give a press conference, or maybe he'll just

552
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Speaker 1: do a drop by in the White House Press briefing room.

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Speaker 1: We still are awaiting whatever those details are. If they

554
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Speaker 1: break at some point to the day, we'll try and

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00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 1: get you some coverage on that. But that's for things

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Speaker 1: stand right now. And an attempt to quote unquote tamp

557
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 1: down conspiracy therees. You know what you could do on

558
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: that regard, get the friggin debris removal going, show us

559
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: what it is, give us some proof. Even then, people

560
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: are going to be skeptical because they just don't trust

561
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Speaker 1: you because of all the lives that have been told.

562
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Speaker 1: But that would at least be some move in the

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Speaker 1: right direction. Absolutely, all right, we have some significant updates

564
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Speaker 1: for you out of Ohio with regards to that horrific

565
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Speaker 1: train derailment that, in the words of one has Matt Expert,

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Speaker 1: basically nuked an entire town with chemicals. Let's go and

567
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Speaker 1: put this up on the screen. Ohio officials are saying, oh,

568
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Speaker 1: the air quality is fine, but don't drink the water.

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Speaker 1: Ohio Department of Health Director doctor Bruce Vanderhoff said air

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Speaker 1: quality testing shows it is the same as it was before,

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Speaker 1: but Tiffany Cadillac, who is Chief of Division of Surface

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Speaker 1: Water for the Ohio EPA, said they are watching the

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Speaker 1: cloud and how it could affect water systems. Quote, we

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Speaker 1: know there is a plume moving down the Ohio River.

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Speaker 1: She said that water systems are being shut down as

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Speaker 1: that plume goes over an area, and testing is taking

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Speaker 1: place to make sure the water is safe. Residents of

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Speaker 1: East Palestine are being advised to drink bottled water for now.

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Speaker 1: Vanderhoff said water for the municipal system appears to be fine,

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Speaker 1: but more extensive testing is ongoing. He said people with

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Speaker 1: private wells should get them tested. Remediation work continues, and

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Speaker 1: as a reminder something we showed you some of the

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Speaker 1: dead fish from a local person who record a video

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Speaker 1: for TikTok. There have been reports of dead animals being

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Speaker 1: found all around the East Palestine area. The Ohio Department

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Speaker 1: of natural Resources. The official source says that thirty five

587
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Speaker 1: hundred fish from twelve different species have been discovered dead.

588
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Speaker 1: We showed you before. Our partners over at status qu

589
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Speaker 1: interviewed a foxkeeper. One of his foxes died, others of

590
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Speaker 1: them were seriously ill. People are still reporting that they

591
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: are nauseous, that they're getting headaches, that you can still

592
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Speaker 1: smell the chemicals in the air. So a lot a

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Speaker 1: lot of skepticism about exactly what is going on there

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Speaker 1: and how safe it is and what the most critically,

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Speaker 1: what the long term health impacts could ultimately be. Status

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Speaker 1: qu Jordan Sheridan interviewed Aaron Brockovich, of course noted, noted

597
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Speaker 1: expert and crusader for safe water, safe and safe air.

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Speaker 1: She talked about how this could be a cover up unfolding.

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Speaker 1: Take a listen, This is definitely not your first rodeo,

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Speaker 1: not my first rodeo. EPA testing is all often, if

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Speaker 1: you want to give it the benefit of doubt, flawed

602
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Speaker 1: or not totally thorough. Do you trust? I mean, maybe

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Speaker 1: they're not detecting it now, but what do you think

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Speaker 1: of their claims that they're not detecting it? I don't

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Speaker 1: trust in all fairness, it is going to take some

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Speaker 1: time to do all of this testing. Now, some of

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Speaker 1: the reports I read that the EPA initiated, yes initiated yesterday,

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Speaker 1: they're almost talking out of two sides of their mouth

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Speaker 1: because they state it's a known toxic substance, final chloride,

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Speaker 1: and it's known and continues to be known that it's

611
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: leaking into the water, into the air, and into the soil. Okay,

612
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: so we have that side of their story. But then

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Speaker 1: over here they go, well, we tested the homes I've

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Speaker 1: read where they didn't find any detection limit within the

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Speaker 1: limits that they're supposed to be looking for. Well, that

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Speaker 1: says to me, that doesn't mean you didn't find it.

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Speaker 1: And but that's safe to go back, which is it?

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Speaker 1: Do you really have enough information to call all clear?

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Speaker 1: Is anyone from those agencies going and collecting the dead animals?

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Speaker 1: So there's just seems to be a big gap. Lack

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Speaker 1: of transparency smells I could cover up what the hell's

622
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: going on? And if you don't know what the hell

623
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Speaker 1: is going on, I think you need to tell the community.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the hell is going on. She's right, Yeah, Yeah,

625
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: big gaps, lack of transparency. Sure smells like a cover up.

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Speaker 1: And you know, this would be far from the first

627
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Speaker 1: time that government officials and in cahoots with industry basically

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Speaker 1: lie to people about what they know and their confidence

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Speaker 1: that these people will be safe if they, you know,

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Speaker 1: come back to their home, breathe the air, and ultimately

631
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Speaker 1: try to drink the water. My personal favorite friends at

632
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Speaker 1: the Lever, let's put this up there on the screen,

633
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Speaker 1: Buddha j Edge now claiming, actually, I am completely powerless

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Speaker 1: to reduce derailmentt risks. Well, why exactly are you in

635
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Speaker 1: this job? But the funny thing is they point out

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Speaker 1: it's just literally completely not true. As they point to

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Speaker 1: the Transportation Administration actually has a tremendous amount of regulatory

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Speaker 1: regulatory authority over cost benefit analysis on the Brake rules.

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Speaker 1: Before enacting it, they require executive branch overview and insight.

640
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: This is the case with the FAA, this is the

641
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: case now with trains, and the Transportation Department told the

642
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Speaker 1: Lever quote they would use all relevant authorities to ensure

643
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Speaker 1: accountability and improve safety safety once the investigation into the

644
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: cause of the derailment is done. I mean, this is

645
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: just completely and totally just putting passing the buck to

646
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: trying to obfuscate yourself from responsibility. Joe Rogan even brought

647
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: this up yesterday on his podcast. He's like, this guy's

648
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: out there talking about diversity in the workplace expectation while

649
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: you have a whole poison environmental disaster that's happening here,

650
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: and you know, the EPA, as far as I understand it,

651
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: they haven't even been taking regular readings of air and

652
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: of water. I mean, look, I'm just going to be

653
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: inclined to believe the residents here over whatever the bs

654
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: that the company and the regulatory authorities have been putting out.

655
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Speaker 1: You you brought up that TikToker yesterday. I watched that

656
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: full video and he's like, this is what always happens.

657
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: A government just parrots the company line because they don't

658
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: know anything. That's another problem too, like our capacity for

659
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: dealing with these disasters is actually not high. We just

660
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: rely on the company paid experts and like, all right,

661
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: issue the press release, everybody, just move on. Well, I

662
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: don't think we should move on, not yet. Yes, that

663
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: is exactly right, and we are definitely not going to

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Speaker 1: move on. And I'm going to talk about this more

665
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: in my monologue, massive, massive media failures on covering this

666
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: story and talking about how we got to this place.

667
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: So to the extent that it's been covered at all,

668
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: it's covered as this sort of like act of God

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00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: in evitable, couldn't have been prevented tragedy, rather than hey, actually,

670
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: industry corruption in the Obama administration, in the Trump administration,

671
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: and now in the Biden administration. They're the ones that's

672
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: stripped down the safety regulations and the guidelines. They're the

673
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: reason why this train, which was packed full of chemicals

674
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: so toxic and explosive that they literally had to do

675
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 1: this quote unquote controlled release to avoid the whole thing

676
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: blowing up like a literal bomb. This train was not

677
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: classified as being highly flammable. Think about that. Think about that.

678
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: That is all because of industry corruption. So this wasn't

679
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: out of nowhere. This wasn't like, oh my god, we

680
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: couldn't prevent it, or oh my god, you know, there

681
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: was nothing we could do so to mitigate the impacts here.

682
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: This is a specific story of corporate corruption over years

683
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: and years and years. The media has completely failed to

684
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: tell that story, and so it makes it easy for

685
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: people like Pete Boodhaji to you know, do his like

686
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: feigned helplessness dance, which is a Democrats tend to be

687
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: really great at how we'd love to do as we

688
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: just can't. We're constrained the parliamentarian, the rules, the NTSB whatever.

689
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 1: They always come up with a freaking excuse. And because

690
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: the media hasn't explained the story to people and the

691
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 1: specific actions that led us to this place, it lets

692
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: characters like Pete Bootagete get off the hook for not

693
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: doing the very basics of his job. There is another

694
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: very specific outrage here Norfolk Southern, which has given their

695
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: executives millions of bonuses. They've done massive amounts of stock buybacks.

696
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: Who are where their shareholders rather than investing in real

697
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 1: safety or investing in their workforce. Those are the things

698
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 1: that they have decided to do and those actions directly

699
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: led and contributed to this derailment. Well, last night they

700
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: were supposed to show up at a town hall to

701
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Speaker 1: answer some questions that local citizens had for them, and

702
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: guess what, they back down like the cowards that they are,

703
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: put this up on the screen. This is so outrageous.

704
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,439
Speaker 1: The tweet here says, just invite email Norfolk Southern says

705
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Speaker 1: they will not attend tonight's town hall in East Palestine

706
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: because they are quote increasingly concerned about the growing physical

707
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: threat to their employees. What about the threat to the

708
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: locals in that county? And many people also pointed out, Oh, really,

709
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: you're so afraid for your safety, that's the real reason.

710
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 1: Zoom is a thing that exists. If you really wanted

711
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: to give your side of the story and feel these

712
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: questions in the interest of public transparency, there were methods

713
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: to do this if you were really so fearful about

714
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Speaker 1: your safety, but of course has nothing to do with that.

715
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Speaker 1: And also to try to paint these local citizens who

716
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: are rightfully enraged, in a negative light is absolutely enraging

717
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 1: and outrageous. Two things that came out of that town

718
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: hall just last night. Number one, actually the railroad company

719
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: put gravel over contaminated soil, actually being forced to remove

720
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: it by the FDA. They're calling that the cover up.

721
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Speaker 1: The second was a resident actually asked the mayor of

722
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: East Palestine and said, where's Pete boudageed, and the mayor says,

723
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Your guest is as good as mine.

724
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Speaker 1: Yesterday was the first time I heard anything from the

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Speaker 1: White House. So as the February fifteenth, the Mayor of

726
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: East Palestine was not contacted by the White House and

727
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: by at least the President's office, presumably not even President

728
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: Biden himself. That's almost what a full week after the

729
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: trained de room and after the controlled release and all

730
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: of this. I mean, that is a this is a

731
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 1: total abdication of responsibility here. And you've even got what

732
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: the Governor of Pennsylvania issuing questions and letters like. You've

733
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: got state officials here who are more invested in doing

734
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: a better job than are higher authorities who are literally

735
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: tasked with making sure this stuff doesn't happen. I mean,

736
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Speaker 1: part of why this has been ignored by a lot

737
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: of relevant national officials, you know, the Biden miministration. Obviously

738
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,720
Speaker 1: they've been asleep at the switch. Both of the senators

739
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: from the state, SCHERA. Brown and JD. Vance, totally late

740
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: to the party. JD didn't issue a statement until nine

741
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: days later, even though I mean, this is the region

742
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: of the state that he's sort of most passionate about.

743
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: This is technically Appalachia in Ohio. And it's because this

744
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: story implicates everybody. It's not an easy partisan narrative, and

745
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 1: the Democrats in particular are really embarrassed right now, or

746
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 1: they should be really embarrassed right now, because they're involved

747
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: in crushing this potential rail strike, which is all about

748
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: you know, the rail workers and their union representatives have

749
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: been warning about safety, about rail safety, about if you

750
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: keep putting profits over people, we are going to have

751
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 1: more accidents. And lo and behold, we've had multiple, multiple derailments,

752
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: including this absolute catastrophe. So it's it's very uncomfortable for them,

753
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: I guess because of their own nefarious actions and their

754
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: own roles in creating this problem. Ultimately, Yeah, I think

755
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: that's exactly right. All right, let's move on now to Ukraine.

756
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: A very interesting piece in the Washington Post, not necessarily

757
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: the reporting itself, but more about what it signifies and

758
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,720
Speaker 1: what the people who are leaking to them have revealed

759
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: at least about US policy. So let's put this up

760
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: there on the screen. Here's what they say. Quote US

761
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: warns Ukraine it faces a pivotal moment in the war. Now,

762
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: the reason why this matters are a bunch of background

763
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Speaker 1: quotes from the senior administration officials. They say, despite promises

764
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: to back Ukraine as long as it takes. Biden officials

765
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: say recent aid packages from Congress represent Kiev's best chance

766
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: to decisively change the course of the war, and they

767
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 1: pointed specifically to Republican efforts to not support any new

768
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: aid to Ukraine. So the second thing that I found

769
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: fascinating was this senior administration said, the Biden administration will

770
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: continue to request as much funding as it believes, but

771
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: there's no guarantees that Congress will actually do it. Now.

772
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: They say that the war in recent months has become

773
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: a slow grind, with neither side gaining the upper hand.

774
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: Biden officials believe the critical juncture will come this spring,

775
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: when Russia's expected to launch its defensive and more broadly,

776
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Speaker 1: I think the real headline out of it is they

777
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: were basically like, it's now or never. We're probably not

778
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 1: going to be able to provide you any more weapons

779
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: or support after this year, and after this point you're

780
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: gonna have to go to negotiating table what they point to.

781
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Speaker 1: And actually there was a couple of things here which

782
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Speaker 1: really made me raise my eyebrows. Number one, Crystal was

783
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Speaker 1: this line, so everyone should remember that we have given

784
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Speaker 1: a hundred or appropriate one hundred billion to Ukraine. I

785
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: believe we have sixty billion left now currently on the

786
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: pace that Ukraine is using ammunition. They warn that Ukraine

787
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: will exhaust the current congressional package as early as this summer.

788
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Speaker 1: So they're going to roll through sixty billion in AMMO

789
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 1: and in weapons and in support in literally a matter

790
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: of months. Just showing you how much AMMO that they

791
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: are consuming over there in Ukraine. Number two was actually

792
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: this Zelenski is making some moves which are really rubbing

793
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: the White House the wrong way. So specifically in regards

794
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 1: to the defending the town of bak Moot, which we've

795
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,919
Speaker 1: talked here, they just evacuated all those AID workers. Here's

796
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: what they say. Ukraine has expended significant resources and troops

797
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: defending Bakmok. American military analysts have argued it is unrealistic

798
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,760
Speaker 1: to simultaneously defend bak Moot and launch a spring counter

799
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: offensive to retake what the US views as more critical territory. Zelenski, however,

800
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: attaches the symbolic importance to bak Moot and believes that

801
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 1: it would be a blow to morale to lose the city.

802
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: He said his country's forces would fight as long as

803
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: we can. However, what they point to is that Zelenski,

804
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: while he may know best to rally his country, have

805
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 1: expressed concern that if they keep fighting everywhere that Russia

806
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: sends troops, it will only work to Moscow's advantage. Why

807
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 1: because Moscow has tremendous amount more material. They also say,

808
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: according to them, they have an initial force. Russia had

809
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 1: one hundred fifty thousand troops. Right now they have three

810
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 1: hundred thousand. Now you have hundreds of thousands more assembled

811
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: in the draft they're about to come there. They are

812
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: going to outnumber Ukrainian forces significantly. Now, Ukraine's gonna be

813
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: on the defensive, and a defensive warrior is always going

814
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: to have You're going to need less necessarily, However, it

815
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: will change if you're doing an offensive. But what they

816
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: say is that Zelenski is expending a quote extraordinary amount

817
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: of blood and treasure for the city of back Mood,

818
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: which has no strategic value, and that instead what he

819
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: should have been doing was basically holding back getting some

820
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: of these weapons, conserving ammunition. One of the things that

821
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 1: it kind of pointed to me is Zelenski is actually

822
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 1: in much more of a desperate gamble than people may think.

823
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Speaker 1: He's trying to hold together the actual population of Ukraine.

824
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: And also part of the reason why he's on this

825
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: whole push for more is they can redo math and

826
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: how much they're expending AMMO. Right today, Kamala Harris just

827
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: landed in Munich. The NATO Secretary General. Over the last

828
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Speaker 1: couple of days has been making pleas from all over Needo.

829
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Speaker 1: He's like, look, Ukraine needs a hell of a lot

830
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Speaker 1: of AMMO. I mean, if you're rolling through sixty billion

831
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: dollars of weapons in literally four months and there's still

832
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: not even an actual Russian offensive that's happening right now,

833
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: I don't really know what to say in terms of

834
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: sustainability of this conflict because they ain't got no industrial base,

835
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: they got no ammunition or whatever of their own, Like

836
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: it is completely based on our support, and Russia still

837
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: has the capability to ramp up and if they want to.

838
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: Rumors right if they want to. There have been rumors

839
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Speaker 1: of another draft just in terms of just sheer manpower.

840
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: These be inexperienced recruits basically sent you know, like like

841
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: grist to the millstone or whatever that's saying is. But

842
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,479
Speaker 1: they do have that capability. And the piece that really

843
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: stood out to me in that Washington Post article is

844
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Speaker 1: we talked to you before about how Rand Corporation, which

845
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: is mostly funded by the Pentagon, put out this long

846
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 1: assessment saying, look, we are not headed to an outright

847
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: victory for Ukraine, we are not headed to an outright

848
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 1: victory for Russia. We're headed to a stalemate. And the

849
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: best thing we could do is try to avoid a

850
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Speaker 1: really law It's already a long war. Try to avoid

851
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: a really long war, because the cost of this thing

852
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 1: are a disaster. The costs in terms of the obvious

853
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: risk of escalation, the obvious risks of potential Russian nuclear usage,

854
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: but also in terms of Ukrainian civilian casualties, Ukrainian economic devastation,

855
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: world hunger and poverty increasing because of increased food and

856
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: fuel prices. These costs, they say, are are far too

857
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: great for too little gain, given that what we're headed

858
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Speaker 1: to as the stalemate. So we told you about that. Well,

859
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: in this report they talk about how US intelligence officials

860
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: have concluded something similar quote. They have concluded that retaking

861
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: the heavily fortified Crimean peninsula is beyond the capability of

862
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: Ukraine's army right now, That sobering assessment has been reiterated

863
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: tom multiple committees on Capitol Hill over the last several weeks.

864
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Speaker 1: So that again underscores this idea that Zelensky has put out,

865
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Speaker 1: and plenty of administration and congressional leaders have fact that

866
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Speaker 1: we're going to have complete victory, We're going to push

867
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Speaker 1: Russians out of Crimea. That is a fantasy. They say

868
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: that discrepancy between abes and capabilities has raised concerns in

869
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Speaker 1: Europe that the Ukraine conflict will persist indefinitely, overburning the

870
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Speaker 1: West as it grapples with other challenges including high inflation

871
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: and unstable energy prices. And against that background, here's the

872
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: money quote. Biden's aids say they are pursuing the best

873
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,240
Speaker 1: course of action, empowering Ukraine to retake as much territory

874
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Speaker 1: as possible in coming months before sitting down with Putin

875
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: at the negotiating table. Now, is this really what they

876
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 1: think and is this really a strategy that they will

877
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: stick to if we get down the road and Ukraine

878
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: does well and consolidates their position or takes back a

879
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 1: little bit more ground, are we going to be Are

880
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: we then going to say, all right, now is the

881
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: time to negotiate, or we go and feed ourselves. This

882
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: lie that we fed ourselves before Ukraine can win. We

883
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 1: got to keep pushing, we got to keep fueling it.

884
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,479
Speaker 1: We got to keep sending them, shipping them arms, an

885
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: increased the amount of military aid that we are getting them,

886
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: because so far in this conflict, all roads have led

887
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 1: to that same conclusion. If Ukraine's on the back foot

888
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: and they're not doing well, we got to help them.

889
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: We got to strengthen their negotiating hand. And if they're

890
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 1: doing well, oh they can win. They can have complete

891
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 1: and outright victory. So I hope that this report is accurate,

892
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 1: that this is actually what they're thinking, But I remain

893
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 1: skeptical until I actually see any sort of push for diplomacy,

894
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: keeping in mind that it was the US that nuked

895
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: an early potential piece deal in the first weeks of

896
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: this war. I don't actually believe it. I think this

897
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: is meant more pacified domestic political forces that are against it.

898
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: I am completely of the same belief. If they have

899
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: even a modest success, there's no way in hell even

900
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: the Republicans will stop the arms. Look, I hope so,

901
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: but we'll see. The second thing is that let's say

902
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: that they're on the backfoot tremendously, then of course you

903
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: know the same narrative, Oh, we can't let it happen.

904
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: It's like a sunk cost fallacy at this point. So,

905
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Speaker 1: I mean, we've got one hundred billion investors in there.

906
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: The only thing that may actually be the limiting factor

907
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: is literally the sheer amount of ammunition that they require

908
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: and our inability to provide it to them without also

909
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: hurting our own defense stock. The US Navy secretary already

910
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: said that's the case. By the way, if you think

911
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: we might have ammo problems, the Euros have way less

912
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: of stockpiles than we do. They are already also on

913
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: the backfoot, and they might have to cannibalize their own forces.

914
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: They're welcome to do that if they would like to.

915
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: I don't think that they will, so, if anything, it

916
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Speaker 1: may be actual straight up industrial production of economies which

917
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Speaker 1: are not in a total war environment like Ukraine. That

918
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: might be the broader limiting factor on all this. But

919
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 1: I think you should take Zelenski's recent push abroad as

920
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 1: evidence that he is seeing the exact same thing, which

921
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: is like we're using a lot of AMMO. By the way,

922
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Speaker 1: included in this Congress is going to appropriate another ten

923
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Speaker 1: billion more likely to balance the budget of Ukraine, which

924
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: I just can't ever particularly get over that one. We're

925
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Speaker 1: going to look got to make sure that their economic

926
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Speaker 1: house is short up, not the IMF or any of

927
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: these others, on top of the one hundred billion that

928
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: we've already appropriated towards them. So it is possible that

929
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 1: this could be the end, but I am very very

930
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: doubtful of it politically what we alluded to earlier, Let's

931
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: put this up there on the screen. Glenn Greenwald flagging

932
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: this from a new poll of Republican primary voters. Fifty

933
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: percent of voters say they are less likely to support

934
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:00,800
Speaker 1: a candidate who supports providing military aid to Crane. DeSantis

935
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: has now really said anything about Ukraine. We don't really

936
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: know where he stands. Some of his votes in the

937
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,760
Speaker 1: House were pretty much just typical what a GOP politician

938
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: would say. But Nikki Haley and Mike Pompeo have been

939
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,720
Speaker 1: actually criticizing Biden for not sending enough weapons to Ukraine

940
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: or not supporting them enough, and clearly Trump views this

941
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: as a major attack vector. There was a political piece

942
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: from a couple of days ago where Trump believes that

943
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 1: one of the ways that he could what he can

944
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 1: divide the Republican primary is he can be the one

945
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: who is anti war. And I've always believed, you know

946
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: that Trump is incredibly good at pointing and finding a

947
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: cleavage and American policy where nobody is willing to say it.

948
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 1: But at the now Look, we had an argument about

949
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: this with Kyle and Marshall on the other side. They

950
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,240
Speaker 1: were saying, oh, well, actually it's very popular support Ukraine.

951
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: I mean right now we're a fifty to fifty and

952
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: in terms of where the conflict is likely to go,

953
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: you know we're going to ship another ten billion. Well

954
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: that's going to make headlines. Maybe that'll change things if

955
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: it had, depending on how the Ukrainians do, that could

956
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 1: change things as well. Who know, who the hell knows

957
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: what things are going to look like a year and

958
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: a half from now. So if I was Trump by

959
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 1: betting man on this position, absolutely clearly is Lena Nintuo.

960
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: I mean, this is one of the first things he

961
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: hit Nikki Haley on. They're signaling they're going to hit

962
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Speaker 1: Ron DeSantis over it, as you said, Tager, I don't

963
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 1: think DeSantis has said a lot with regards to Russia.

964
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: The things he has said have been a quite different

965
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: tone than what Trump has said. I've got a New

966
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: York Times peace on DeSantis's foreign policy approach where they've

967
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: got a few quotes here they say where mister Trump

968
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: responded to the war by calling Russian President of Vladimir

969
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: Putin a genius for invading. Mister DeSantis decried the invasion

970
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 1: as a Russian strategic blunder. Trump long admired Putin as

971
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: powerful and intelligent. DeSantis has dubbed him a quote authoritarian

972
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: gas station attended. Trump notoriously accepted Putin's denial of Russian

973
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: only meddling in the twenty sixteen elefe This from the

974
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: New York Times. Guys, mister Desanta's in twenty thirteen saw

975
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: quote Putin as somebody who's trying to confront the US,

976
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: and last year included Russia on a short list of

977
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: countries with nefarious intentions to engage in espionage or influence

978
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 1: operations in Florida. So he's taken a sort of in verbally,

979
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: a more traditional Republican approach, like more like the way

980
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: Mitt Romney talked about. But none of those like are

981
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: like we yeah, no, I don't think I'm from you

982
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: know what I've seen. He hasn't said a whole lot

983
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: on it, but clearly Trump thinks that, based on his

984
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: sort of more neocon approach from when he was in

985
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: the House, that this might be a place where he

986
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: can push him. See. This gets back to the discussion

987
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: we had earlier, which is, I think the biggest limiting

988
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: factor for DeSantis on foreign policy is going to be

989
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: the fact that all the billionaires who are not going

990
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: to back Trump are going to be the neocons themselves

991
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: who are there if you think they if you think

992
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: like MSNBC people are cringe on Ukraine, you should meet

993
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: some of these folks. Well, if you've given us a

994
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: good segue here, because we've got a nice little MSNBC

995
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,280
Speaker 1: clip to share with all of you all this morning.

996
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 1: All right, So, as we discussed earlier, Nikki Haley launched

997
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,919
Speaker 1: her presdential campaign much fanfare, girl Boss, energy, et cetera,

998
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: et cetera, and it led to an amazing exchange between

999
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: Andrew Mitchell of MSNBC and John Bolton and in which

1000
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: is just like every piece of it is in some way,

1001
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,720
Speaker 1: So just take a listen. We'll react on the other side.

1002
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: Quote Mike Compelle was saying that she is light as

1003
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: a feather. Would you be saying that about a man.

1004
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 1: Let's let's compare her with another woman. In the video

1005
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: trailer that she put out last week, foreshadowing the announcement

1006
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: this week, she opened up with quotations from Jeane Kirkpatrick.

1007
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: Now Jeane Kirkpatrick obviously another former u AN ambassador in

1008
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties. I would say Gene was America's Margaret

1009
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: Thatcher and a phenomenal person. So the idea that Nicky

1010
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,919
Speaker 1: is trying to associate herself with Jeane Kirkpatrick, I think

1011
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: is a little presumptuous. The reason I found this incredible

1012
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: is because, Okay, see if John Bolton criticizing Niki Hiley, fine,

1013
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: there are many things to criticize her for. We did

1014
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 1: it as well, but he chooses like the worst possible

1015
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: angle of being, like she's not enough of a neocon.

1016
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: For those of you who don't know Jeane Kirkpatrick, she

1017
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: was like the she was in favor of a run contra.

1018
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: She was It's like the intellectual author of Reagan era

1019
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 1: foreign policy. Her view. Her view was that we should

1020
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: support any authoritarian regime, didn't matter human rights abuses at

1021
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: I mean, she laid this out in great intellectual depth

1022
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 1: as long as they were anti communists, so supported all

1023
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 1: sorts of brutal dictators, like I said around Contra, etcetera.

1024
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: So he's like, she's not enough like that, which is

1025
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 1: a terrible critique. And then Andrew and Mitchell responds by

1026
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: critiquing John Bolton, which again good lots of things to

1027
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: critique John Bolton on, but it's from like you're not

1028
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: being fair to a woman. So it's worst. That's the

1029
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: worst conversation, the worst analysis all the way around. I

1030
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: would even say that Jeane Kirkpatrick was at least a

1031
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: more talented speaker than Niki Hailey, So I'll say on

1032
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 1: a pure political talent level, I would also level that

1033
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: I don't doubt that one thing that we were talking

1034
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: previously about was about her leaning into identity politics by

1035
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 1: also to crying identity politics. Just look at some of

1036
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: the crap that she's selling on her website. Let's put

1037
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: this up there on the screen. Sometimes it takes a

1038
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 1: woman Navy T shirt I mean, sometimes it takes a

1039
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: woman bumper sticker with the Nicky Haley logo down at

1040
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: the bottom. It's just so boilerplate cringe. I don't again

1041
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: really tweet I tweeted this. I'm curious what you think

1042
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 1: I said. You know, which political consultant gave Nicki Haley

1043
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: the mistaken impression any of us give a shit about

1044
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 1: her high heels? And you know, somebody replied to me

1045
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: and they're like, hey, look, you know forty three percent

1046
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 1: of GOP voters are coming from women, even for Trump.

1047
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: So if you figure how to tap into that and

1048
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: bring them out in primaries, there's a premium no idea

1049
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: if heels does that, but presumably not meant for us.

1050
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: But I mean, am I the only person who thinks

1051
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 1: it's actually sexist to say that talking about high heels

1052
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,760
Speaker 1: makes you a pro woman candidate or appeal to women.

1053
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 1: Let's look at the data. Fifty three percent of white

1054
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: women in twenty sixteen voted for Trump. White women also

1055
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 1: increase their vote margin for Donald Trump in twenty twenty.

1056
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Speaker 1: You had more Latina and Black women also vote for

1057
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: Trump in twenty twenty, despite all of the whatever, you know,

1058
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: he's not a feminist all this other stuff. Is there

1059
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 1: any evidence that that's actually what appeals to women at all?

1060
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Speaker 1: I mean, like, why is this superficiality of high heels

1061
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Speaker 1: and of sometimes it takes women. Think back to Hillary Clinton.

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Speaker 1: I literally just laid out she lost white women and

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00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: she is the person who leaned into glass ceiling. And

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00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: also some where is the evidence that women care at all?

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00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: I mean it's just like, Okay, it's nice you're a woman.

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00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: I got yeah, that's it could be nice to have

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00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: a historic first, but tell me what you're gonna do, lady,

1068
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: Like it's not enough. Okay, you have a vagina, congratulations,

1069
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: Like what are you actually going to do? And the

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00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,720
Speaker 1: other piece of this is it is such consultant brain

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00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 1: because you see it too. You see it on the

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Speaker 1: Democratic side as well. They just assumed, like Kamala Harris

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00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: is a black woman, so she's going to appealed to

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00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: black women, which again is like both sort of racist

1075
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: and sexist essentralized like that that people are just so

1076
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: brain dead that they see someone who shares some idea

1077
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: unity characteristic and they're going to be like, that's my vote.

1078
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: It's listen, there is something to people want to feel

1079
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: like you understand their experience, you get where they're coming from.

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00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,879
Speaker 1: That is real. But to just essentialize it like that,

1081
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: like the way to appeal to women is to talk

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00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: about how you're a woman. Good luck. That's all I

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00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: have to say. Well, also on the light as a

1084
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 1: feather comment, I mean, what Bolton was saying is that

1085
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: she is actually a policy lightweight, which is empirically true.

1086
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: One of the stupid things that Trump did was appoint

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00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: her un ambassador when she was formerly the freaking South

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00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: Carolina governor in a non competitive race. Prior to that,

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00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: winning some like state legislation, she had literally had no

1090
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: thoughts whatsoever on foreign policy and then gets arguably, you know,

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00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: at least what was once upon a time was an

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00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 1: important role to the extent that she comported herself. She

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00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 1: raised her hand one time and took a photo of it.

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00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, so now you're a Now you're supposed

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00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: to be president of the United States, and listen. She

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00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: could prove us wrong. She could have proved us wrong

1097
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: in that interview with Sean Hannity that we showed you,

1098
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: or she could have come out with some like, you know,

1099
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: deep policy thoughts and knowledge, demonstrated some sort of knowledge, expertise, vision, whatever,

1100
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 1: But instead she just regurgitated this weird cand line about

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00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: I'm not kicking sideways, I'm kicking forward over and over

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00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: and over again. So you know, I'm not mad at

1103
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: her about our resume. There's plenty of line items there,

1104
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 1: but you have to demonstrate some sort of political competence,

1105
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 1: some actual vision for the country, and just falling back

1106
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: on your age, your gender, your race, that you grew

1107
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: up in a small town South Carolina. Good luck, good luck?

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00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 1: All right, Sager, what are you looking at? Well? I

1109
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: know I can rub Boomers the wrong way sometimes when

1110
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: I talk about them derisively. I just want you to

1111
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: know it's not personal. The ones who watch our show,

1112
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: I guess you guys are the good ones. But generationally,

1113
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,240
Speaker 1: you need to understand how boomer and silent generation tyranny

1114
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 1: is soul crushing to people who are my age. We

1115
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: genuinely cannot believe we have been ruled for our higher

1116
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: adult lives by geriatric overlords who not only ruined the

1117
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: promise of the country but somehow still remain in power.

1118
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: Perhaps no better example of this exists than Dianne Feinstein,

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00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: the eighty nine year old California senator who officially finally

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00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: announced her retirement yesterday. Too little, too late, you asked me,

1121
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: she's been verifiably senile for years. Disgracefully, she refused to

1122
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: accept her limitations and give up what is actually a

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Speaker 1: serious job. Feinstein represents the people of California, a full

1124
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Speaker 1: forty million people, the largest in the entire country. California,

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00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: if it was own country, would be the world's fifth

1126
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: largest economy, ahead even of France, India, Italy, and Brazil.

1127
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: They deserve proper representation instead. Because reporters have been afraid

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Speaker 1: to be too polite and are corrupt democratic hierarchy, the

1129
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: public has been shielded from just how much Finstein has

1130
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: completely lost it, and funnily enough, the full extent of

1131
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: how far gone she is was actually put on display

1132
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: in her retirement announcement. Why because she literally did not

1133
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: know her staff had put out a statement that she

1134
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: was retiring. On Capitol Hill. Moments after the statement came out,

1135
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: a reporter asked her about the announcement. She said, quote,

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00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 1: I haven't made that decision. I haven't released anything, to

1137
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: which Stafford cut in and said, quote, we put out

1138
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: a statement, she goes, oh, you put out a statement,

1139
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 1: and then she walked away. That's insane. That's weekend at

1140
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: Bernie's stuff. People. The craziest thing is she's not even

1141
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: doing the right thing and resigning only she will not

1142
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: seek reelection in twenty twenty four. The people of California

1143
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: have to continue to have her represent them for a

1144
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: full two years when she will be ninety one years old.

1145
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: If I sound callous, I'm sorry. I know it's a

1146
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: tragedy when people age and families have to deal with it.

1147
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: She was a private citizen, I would have nothing but

1148
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: compassion for her. But she's not. She's a public servant.

1149
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: It's just not right. The problem with the fine Seine

1150
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: situation is just how much the Democratic Party and her

1151
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: fellow geriatrics in power have gone to protect her. When

1152
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: the San Francisco Chronicle in April did a story on

1153
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: how senile she is, the only fellow senators admitting it

1154
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 1: on background said she was senile. No one would say

1155
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: so on the record. Worse, the only person on the

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00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 1: record was Nancy Pelosi, who said, quote, Senator Findstein is

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00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: a workhorse for the people of California, a respected leader

1158
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: amongst her colleagues, adding that it is unconscionable. Weeks after

1159
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: losing her beloved husband of more than four decades and

1160
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: decades of outstanding leadership to our city and state, she

1161
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 1: is being subjected to these ridiculous attacks or beneath the

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Speaker 1: dignity in which she has led and the esteem which

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00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: she has held. Oh, it's unconscionable. So outside of the

1164
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: corrupt deal to shield this from the public, maybe it

1165
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 1: just struck a nerve with Pelosi, who is literally eighty

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00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: two years old. She's only seven years younger than Finstein.

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00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: In fact, if you look at leadership in this country

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00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 1: right now on a bipartisan basis, it will make you

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00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: want to vomit. Sure, it's great Pelosi is no longer

1170
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 1: the Democratic leader. We all know she still pulls the strings.

1171
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 1: Schumer is a spring chicken of the Senate. He's only

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00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: seventy two. McConnell is eighty. Our president is also eighty.

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00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: If re elected, he would be eighty six the day

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01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: that he left the Oval office. Call me agist if

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01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: you want, I don't care. That's too old for the

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01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: hardest job in the world. Trump, of course, is in

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01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: the same league. He's seventy six. All of this is madness.

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01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 1: In fact, the one hundred and seventeenth Congress which just ended,

1179
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: was literally the oldest congress in American history ever, And

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01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: it wasn't always this way. At a time when fifty

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01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: percent of this country is below the age of thirty eight,

1182
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: only five percent were the same in Congress. Now, look,

1183
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's got to be one to one,

1184
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: but a little bit more parody would be nice, wouldn't it.

1185
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: And sure, age itself is not a determination of anything.

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01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: Bernie has the highest approval rating of all young voters,

1187
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: and he's older than Biden. Buddha j Edge is beloved

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01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 1: by boomers. He's not even forty. The positions matter, of course,

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01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,439
Speaker 1: but a certain point we got to move on. Much

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Speaker 1: of this, in my opinion, is a reflection of the

1191
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: ability to run for Congress in the first place. The

1192
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: basic fact is that boomer's vote more and they participate

1193
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: in our politics because they actually have a stake in

1194
01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: this country. People my age just don't. The average seventy

1195
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: five year old today is seventy seven percent wealthier than

1196
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 1: the average seventy five year old thirty years ago. Meanwhile,

1197
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: the average thirty five year old is nineteen percent poorer,

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01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 1: same for those who are aged forty five to fifty four.

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01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 1: Those thirty four and younger are also poorer. Much of

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Speaker 1: You can also ascribe home values, which of course only

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01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 1: helps the elderly. They have a massive net worth and

1202
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 1: keep going up with prices, making it only harder for

1203
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 1: millennials gen Z and even gen X to buy a house.

1204
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 1: Who cares about property taxes if you have no property?

1205
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: Who cares about the states if you don't and probably

1206
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: will never have one. Why even care about high income

1207
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 1: tax If the odds are you probably will never get there.

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01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: That's why young people don't vote. It is also why

1209
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 1: those who do vote their own into power. I have

1210
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 1: no idea what the solution is, but I do know

1211
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: fragile systems like this they do break, and when they do,

1212
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 1: it doesn't go so well for the people at the top.

1213
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 1: What I do know is, at the very least, we

1214
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 1: cannot continue to be insulted by having literally senile people

1215
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: represent us in Congress while they're nursing home age colleagues

1216
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 1: do everything they can to protect them. You can respect

1217
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 1: the elderly and the lessons they have to teach us

1218
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 1: while also advancing the interests of the rest of the public. Unfortunately,

1219
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 1: we have not yet learned to strike that balance, and

1220
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: I hope we do someday, because whatever this nonsense is,

1221
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: it cannot go on forever. Literally, I mean, look again,

1222
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to sound mean. I know it can

1223
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 1: be callous. But she didn't even know she retired. That's insanity.

1224
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: And if you want to hear my reaction to Sagres's monologue,

1225
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 1: become a premium subscriber today at breakingpoints dot com. What

1226
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 1: are you taking a look at? Crystal Well? Guys? Residents

1227
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 1: of East Palestine, Ohio are now being told they'd better

1228
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 1: stick to bottled water for the foreseeable future, as a

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01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: toxic soup of chemicals makes its way through that community's

1230
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 1: waterways and disperses throughout the broader Ohio River Valley. The

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01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 1: derailment of a train packed full of hazard's chemicals has

1232
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 1: been a horrifying disaster for the local community, and it's

1233
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 1: been a lesson in the monstrosity of corporate greed combined

1234
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 1: with industry friendly politicians and regulators, or in any case,

1235
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 1: it should have been a lesson in this political toxic sludge.

1236
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 1: But unfortunately, corporate media nearly across the board has failed

1237
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 1: to give Americans any context for how the hell this

1238
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: nightmare situation came to pass in the first place. Norfolk,

1239
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 1: Southern and their industry allies have perpetrated a grave crime

1240
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: that could impact this part of Ohio for generations, and

1241
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 1: the corporate news media have served as accomplices in the

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01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 1: cover up. According to a comprehensive analysis for Media Matters,

1243
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: only three percent of broadcast coverage mentioned the year's long

1244
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 1: successful industry campaign to weaken rail regulations. And if you

1245
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: don't understand the way that corruption fueled this disaster, you

1246
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 1: really don't understand this story at all. It is just

1247
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,440
Speaker 1: a tragic, inevitable act of God, with no one to

1248
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: blame and no action to be taken. And that is

1249
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Speaker 1: precisely the way that industry wants you to view this derailment.

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01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 1: As our friends at the Lever reported, three different administrations

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01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: failed to regulate the rail industry in ways that very

1252
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 1: specifically contributed to the devastation of this crash. The Obama

1253
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: administration exempted trains carrying exactly the sort of chemicals that

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01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 1: were on this train from being classified as a high

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01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: hazard flammable train designation that would have subjected them to

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01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 1: more stringent safety regulations. After seeing this train turned into

1257
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 1: a giant fireball and official warnings that if not for

1258
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 1: the controlled release, it could have literally detonated like a bomb,

1259
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 1: blowing up the entire town, imagine the levels of corruption

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01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 1: that would lead to such materials failing to be designated

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Speaker 1: as high hazard and as flammable. The Trump administration, though,

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01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 1: they went even further. They rolled back Obama era safety rugs,

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Speaker 1: which would have required modern braking systems to be rolled

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01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 1: out industry wide. Now, this particular train relied on a

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01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 1: braking system literally invented in the eighteen hundreds, and as

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Speaker 1: a result, experts say the devastation of the crash was

1267
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 1: much more profound, with more cars derailed, more toxic chemicals spilt,

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Speaker 1: and the Biden administration, with Pete as absentee figurehead at

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Speaker 1: the top of the Department of Transportation, just let the

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Speaker 1: new corporate status quo rain simple War era breakes, unregulating

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Speaker 1: toxic chemicals and all. But they did add their own

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Speaker 1: special little touch by effectively backing industries approach to screwing

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Speaker 1: and stressing and stripping their workforce down to the bare bones,

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Speaker 1: all in the name of cost cutting so they could

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Speaker 1: give their executives bonuses and their shareholders and multi billion

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Speaker 1: dollar giveaway. Three administrations Obama, Trump, Biden, both parties, Democrats

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Speaker 1: and Republicans, they all birthed this whore. Anyone pretending that

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Speaker 1: it's only one party or one person a blame for

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Speaker 1: these years of failures in industry, boot looking is a

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Speaker 1: liar and a hack running cover for their team. Anyone

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Speaker 1: pretending like this was a fluke accident which couldn't have

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Speaker 1: possibly been prevented, is also a liar and a hack

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Speaker 1: running cover for industry. And a look at the news

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Speaker 1: media's coverage is to see an entire universe of liars

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Speaker 1: and hacks, with hardly a single exception. Now, media failures

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Speaker 1: to reveal the real story. They were profound, and they

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Speaker 1: were really across the board. None of the Sunday shows

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Speaker 1: covered the trained derailment at all, not one an American town.

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Speaker 1: It was literally poisoned by corpor greed. They couldn't bother

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Speaker 1: to make mention of it. During a key three day

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Speaker 1: stretch from February tenth to February twelve, there was not

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Speaker 1: a single mention of this derailment in national news not one,

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Speaker 1: but the specific strategies that were deployed by each of

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Speaker 1: the three cable news networks really exposes the nature and

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Speaker 1: the purpose of the cover up. According to that report

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Speaker 1: quote on cable National Network CNN, Fox News Channel, and MSNBC,

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Speaker 1: they aired just over two and a half hours of

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Speaker 1: coverage on the train derailment. The majority of reporting was

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Speaker 1: done by CNN, which dedicated over an hour of coverage

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Speaker 1: across forty two segments, was followed by Fox News, which

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Speaker 1: aired fifty minutes across twenty two segments. MSNBC spent thirty

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Speaker 1: six minutes across nineteen segments reporting on the derailment and

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Speaker 1: toxic fire that followed. Let's break all of this down

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Speaker 1: In every instance you can see how the network's biases

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Speaker 1: and political orientations drove their coverage. CNN did the most

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Speaker 1: coverage of the three networks thanks to there If it bleeds,

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01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 1: it Leads orientation. But while they cover the derailment because

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Speaker 1: it's a sensational news event, not a six segment actually

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Speaker 1: looked at the bipartisan political corruption that led to the catastrophe,

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Speaker 1: not one sensationalism with zero accountability the CNN way over it.

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Speaker 1: On the s NBC, they decided the best way to

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Speaker 1: run cover for the failed response of the Democratic administration

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Speaker 1: was just to mostly not talk about the derailment at all.

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Speaker 1: Over a ten day period, they devoted a mere thirty

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Speaker 1: six minutes to the catastrophe. To put that in context,

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01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 1: this is a twenty four hour news network. That means

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Speaker 1: they had fourteen four hundred minutes of airtime to fill

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Speaker 1: over that time period, and they chose to devote only

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Speaker 1: thirty six to the derailment. Now, Fox they did slightly

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01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: more coverage, clocking in at fifty minutes throughut the ten

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Speaker 1: day period. But now they're leaning in after Pete handed

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Speaker 1: them an absolute gift by talking about white construction crews

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Speaker 1: and ignoring the derailment. With this blessing from the culture

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Speaker 1: were gods, Fox has now decided to cover the story

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Speaker 1: laying to the Biden administration, while of course conveniently ignoring

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Speaker 1: the fact that Trump failures were some of the most

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Speaker 1: critical in setting the stage for the current catastrophe. New

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Speaker 1: Ohio Senator j die Vance went on Tucker Tuesday Night,

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Speaker 1: take a listen, or We've had hundreds of trained derailments

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Speaker 1: after we spent over a trillion dollars on infrastructure in

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Speaker 1: this country. So the fact that this isn't getting obviously

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Speaker 1: better is a major indictment of the people spending the

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Speaker 1: money and what they're spending the money on. Now we

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Speaker 1: know if you listen to Secretary Bodagide today, that they

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Speaker 1: are focused more on whether we have too many white

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Speaker 1: men in construction jobs than he is on the fundamentals

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Speaker 1: of his job, which is ensuring we have a viable

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Speaker 1: transportation infrastructure in this country. And unfortunately, my constituents in

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Speaker 1: East Palestine have been some of the main victims of

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Speaker 1: the fact that we have failing infrastructure in our country,

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Speaker 1: again after spending tons of money in an effort to

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Speaker 1: actually fix it. So the problem we have, Tucker, is

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01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,759
Speaker 1: that we are ruled by unserious people who are worried

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01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 1: about fake problems instead of the real fact that our

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01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 1: country is falling apart in some of the most important ways.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned the Environmental Protection Agency. Of course, it says

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01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 1: it right there. It should be focused on clean air,

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01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 1: clean water. It's the thing that I'm most focused on

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Speaker 1: for the people these Palestine, but so often they're focused

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01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 1: on environmental racism and other ridiculous things instead of fixing

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Speaker 1: the problem that they are established to fix. So listen.

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Speaker 1: Zero disagreement for me on the unseeriousness of Mayor Pete

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01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 1: and Biden and all the rest. But listen, Jade Vance.

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Speaker 1: You are the senator for the state. You couldn't be

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01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 1: bothered to put out a statement until nine days after

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Speaker 1: the fact. You didn't care about this one lick until

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01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 1: you could come up with a partisan culture war angle,

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01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 1: So spare me your belated folk concern and outrage. Second

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Speaker 1: of all, the problem here isn't from your list of

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Speaker 1: right wing culture war buzzwords, environmental racism or wokeism, as

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Speaker 1: another Fox host claimed, or war on white people as

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk claimed. It's corruption and it's corporate greed, plain

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Speaker 1: and simple. It's a system that puts profit over people

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Speaker 1: and doesn't give a shit about working people, whether they're black, white,

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Speaker 1: purple or blue. And in this instance very specifically is

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Speaker 1: documented by the Lever. It's a story about a bunch

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Speaker 1: of politicians on both sides of the aisle who would

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Speaker 1: rather lick industries boots then protect places like East Palestine.

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Speaker 1: But you don't want to tell that story because it

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Speaker 1: implicates the guy you owe your whole political career. Two.

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Speaker 1: That would be Donald Trump, And you don't want to

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Speaker 1: talk about that corruption because it leads straight back to

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Speaker 1: your own party. You want to know when the media

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01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 1: is covering up for industry on the story. It is

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01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 1: the same reason they do it all the time, because

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Speaker 1: it doesn't fit their dumb, partisan, black and white narratives.

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Speaker 1: MSNBC doesn't want to talk about it because it looks

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01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 1: bad for their team. Fox doesn't want to be honest

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01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 1: about it because that would look bad for their team. Instead,

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Speaker 1: they invent some culture war dribble that, in the absence

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Speaker 1: of another accurate story, is going to wholly fill the void.

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Speaker 1: I lived fifteen miles south of East Palestine for years,

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Speaker 1: actually in the exact same county, Columbiana County. The toxic

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Speaker 1: sludge that's now drained into the Ohio River that is

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01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 1: flowing right through East Liverpool where I used to live

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Speaker 1: when I gave birth to my first child, Core My

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01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 1: politics today were developed while I live there. There are

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Speaker 1: few places in America which have been more betrayed by

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Speaker 1: both parties than this region. Steel mills, shuttered, factory works,

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Speaker 1: sent overseas. In East Liverpool, the town budget was so

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Speaker 1: stretched that the men used to use his own money

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Speaker 1: and sweat labor to paint the municipal pool every year

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Speaker 1: so local kids could at least have a place to

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01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 1: go in the summer. No surprise, this despair and abandonment

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01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 1: has also made it the epicenter of the opioid crisis. Now,

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01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 1: the news media did not tell this story because it

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01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 1: didn't fit into their little partisan bubbles. They didn't expose

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Speaker 1: who was making money off of that destruction, the lives

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Speaker 1: that had been decimated. They treated it just like they

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01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 1: did this Traine realment, as an inevitable act of God.

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01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 1: Who could help it. Thank God for truly independent media

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01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 1: because we all know damn well the way that we

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01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 1: have been lied to. And this story has made me

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01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 1: really mad on a variety of levels. The total dishonesty

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01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 1: cross the board. They either and if you want to

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01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 1: hear my reaction to Crystal's monologue, become a premium subscriber

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Speaker 1: today at breakingpoints dot com. There's a whole drama over

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Speaker 1: at the Federal Trade Commission, led by Lena Khan. There

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01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 1: is a commission rror by the name of what's her name,

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01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 1: Christine Wilson, who has resigned in a bit of a

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01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 1: blaze of glory here. She's got a Wall Street Journal

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01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 1: op ed explaining her thinking, let's go and put this

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01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:11,640
Speaker 1: up on the screen. She says, why I'm resigning as

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Speaker 1: an FTC commissioner. Lena Khan's disregard for the rule of

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01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:18,720
Speaker 1: law and do process make it impossible for me to

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Speaker 1: continue serving. So we needed to figure out what the

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01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 1: heck was going on here, and we brought in the

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Speaker 1: man himself, Matt Stoller, who is author of The Big

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Speaker 1: sub Stack and is an expert on all things anti trusted.

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Speaker 1: I knew would be following this very closely. So great

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Speaker 1: to see you, Matt. Good see man, Thanks for having me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so what is the backstory here? Uh? Drama? You know

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Speaker 1: there's a there's like a I'm going to call it

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01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 1: Lena khn derangement syndrome. Right, You remember how like Trump

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Speaker 1: just blew the minds of liberals and like broke their brains,

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Speaker 1: and then you know, the same thing kind of happens

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Speaker 1: to Republicans, Like this is what's happening in the anti

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Speaker 1: trust establishment. So you have Lena Khan and then also

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Speaker 1: more broadly, a movement of people coming in many of

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Speaker 1: the viewers of your show, who are saying, like, hey,

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01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:06,480
Speaker 1: we should stop monopolies, we should do something about these problems.

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Speaker 1: And the old anti trust establishment, which has been kind

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Speaker 1: of a group of the technocrats living in a clubhouse

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01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 1: for forty years saying this is a very scientific area

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Speaker 1: and ordinary people have nothing to say. They're deeply offended.

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Speaker 1: And Christine Wilson is kind of like she's the protege

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Speaker 1: of some of the original people who constrained antitrust in

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Speaker 1: the eighties, and so she's just like mortally offended that

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Speaker 1: Lena Kamm would come in and say, no, we're going

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Speaker 1: to enforce the law. And so her kind of going

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Speaker 1: out with a blaze of glory air quotes, sarcastic air quotes,

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Speaker 1: is her saying sort of to that old establishment, the

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Speaker 1: wallstret Journal editorial page, and the anti trust defense lawyers

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Speaker 1: and CEOs who are used to emerging and Jim Kramer

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Speaker 1: and you know, so on and so forth, it's saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, how dare she write? And she she legit

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Speaker 1: believes it. She's not like, I mean, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of dishonesty in what she's saying. But like she legit

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Speaker 1: believes that there's like a new era of lawlessness. But

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Speaker 1: that's because she doesn't believe in stopping mergers or or

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01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 1: the government being able to ban non compete agreements or

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01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:11,480
Speaker 1: various things like that. She just thinks that that's outlandish,

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Speaker 1: even though that is what the laws say. The reason

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Speaker 1: why I think his story is important is it's like

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01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 1: obviously a much bigger fight that's happening right now. And

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Speaker 1: one of the reasons I think we're I want to

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Speaker 1: do our best to try and elevate what Lena Khan

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Speaker 1: is doing is you know, when you contrast her ability

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Speaker 1: to actually like do her job with so many other

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Speaker 1: quote unquote young promisers in the administration, like a guy

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Speaker 1: like Pete Bouda judge, the contrast is just astounding, like

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Speaker 1: the level of competence. So what is the what are

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Speaker 1: the actual fights that she's calling out that Lena Khan

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Speaker 1: is engaging in that will have a major impact on

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Speaker 1: our viewers and really all of us in America. Yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: I like that, you said, like Pete Budha judge, It's like, no,

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Speaker 1: but he's a post But there's many there are many

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Speaker 1: there are many examples. Yeah, he's but there's also just one,

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Speaker 1: there's one Pete. Yeah, so so there's plenty of It's

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Speaker 1: actually interesting because the Department they actually it's a great

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Speaker 1: comparison because they're actually the Department of Transportation has authority

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Speaker 1: that is was actually the statute was ripped out of

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Speaker 1: the FTC statute and given to DOT and so it's

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Speaker 1: the same authority. DOT is actually a little bit stronger

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Speaker 1: and one you can see one person is using that

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Speaker 1: authority and one person is not. So what is what

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Speaker 1: has Lena Kahn done? All right? So she's challenged a

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Speaker 1: bunch of mergers. So if you look at I mean,

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Speaker 1: you guys did a segment on Jim Kramer freaking out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: reason that that he's freaking out is because deal makers

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Speaker 1: on Wall Street are very upset at the new tough

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Speaker 1: challenges to mergers. So mergers have dropped by seventy six

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Speaker 1: percent this year. It's not entirely an antitrust thing. That's

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Speaker 1: also because of the funding environment is different, but some

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Speaker 1: of it is anti trust. So she's challenged you know,

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Speaker 1: Microsoft and Activision Meta within we'll see what happens with

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Speaker 1: the Kroger Albertsons. But you know, a lot of deals

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Speaker 1: are just getting abandoned. And you know, the FTC lost

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Speaker 1: the meta within challenge but made some important legal advances.

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Speaker 1: But broadly speaking, the environment for deal makers is completely different.

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Speaker 1: You can't consolidate your way into dominance anymore, or at

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Speaker 1: least it's much harder to do that. Another thing that

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Speaker 1: she's done, and I think this is something that got

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Speaker 1: a lot of attention, is that she said non compete agreements,

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Speaker 1: the things that the parts of employment contracts that say

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Speaker 1: you can't leave and work for a rival. She said

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Speaker 1: that is those are unfair and unenforceable. So she's putting

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Speaker 1: out rules that are not in forced yet, saying the

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Speaker 1: thirty million or forty million people who are subject to

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Speaker 1: non compete agreements are no longer subject to those particular provisions.

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Speaker 1: I mean they're called non competes, right, So that's like

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Speaker 1: pretty obvious that they're anti competitive right in the name. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: right there. But there are a lot I mean, there

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01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 1: are a lot of other things. So one of the

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Speaker 1: things that she's started on is a new policy that

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Speaker 1: says that like a gym can't make it, they have

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Speaker 1: to make it as easy to cancel as signing up, yes, right,

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Speaker 1: which and there's you know, there's there's some let me see,

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Speaker 1: there's what's it called fortnite? Right, Like, there were there

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01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:10,639
Speaker 1: were certain like user interface deceptions that were going on there,

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Speaker 1: like dark patterns that make it easy for kids to

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Speaker 1: spend money and and actually make uh allow like sexual

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Speaker 1: in game purchases, but also like sexual predation of adults

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Speaker 1: and kids. Right because they made it far. We actually

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Speaker 1: covered this. I think I did a monologue it. They

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01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 1: made it. They made it super easy for kids to

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01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 1: basically get permission. You had to opt out of the

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Speaker 1: chat feature, which allows like people who are older to

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01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 1: be in with like little kids who are on the

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01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 1: platform they market as a kid. So there is a

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Speaker 1: lot going on there. But the FC came in and

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Speaker 1: said you have to pay five hunred million dollars and

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Speaker 1: stop all of this. And that's that's actually changing the

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Speaker 1: whole industry. The gaming industry is going to look at

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01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 1: that and they're going to say, oh, you know the

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01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 1: engineer in the room who's like, maybe we shouldn't do this,

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Speaker 1: versus the marketing guy saying, oh, but our rois says

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Speaker 1: that we should. The engineer now can say you saw

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01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 1: what happen to epic games, right, So it's these are

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Speaker 1: changing industry structures in important ways. And Christine Wilson voted

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Speaker 1: against all of those. Yeah, just to be interesting. So

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Speaker 1: I see there's a Larry Cutlow segment with her very

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Speaker 1: you know, very upset. They're saying that Lena Khan's approach

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Speaker 1: is quote modern socialism, okay, and the chirrod on the

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01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 1: thing says Biden's push for big government socialism. They call

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Speaker 1: her the radical chair of the FTC. I mean, what's

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Speaker 1: your what's your response to to all of that? Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean the Republican Party is in an interesting spot

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01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 1: because they have lived since the early eighties with a

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Speaker 1: with a coalition of social conservatives and economic conservatives working

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Speaker 1: together to try to get conservative judges and conservative policy.

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Speaker 1: And that coalition is falling apart. And you saw that

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Speaker 1: with Trump coming in, and you see it now Trump's

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01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 1: saying protect social security and others saying let's let's cut it.

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01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 1: But it also hits in anti trust and market power questions.

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Speaker 1: So there are there are a lot of young Republicans

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01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 1: who are very upset with monopoly power, and they look

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01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:12,679
Speaker 1: at Google, Facebook, Amazon, Microsoft, and they say these feel

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Speaker 1: like private governments and more skeptical of government power. And

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Speaker 1: then you have people like Larry Kudlow and the Wall

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Speaker 1: Street Journal editorial page, and you know, essentially conservative boomer donors.

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Speaker 1: Yes that that are like no, no, we like the

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Speaker 1: you know, preserving our property. And that's like there's a

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01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 1: serious and interesting tension. But the criticism of Lena Kahan

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01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 1: is really coming from the old school corporatist wing of

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01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 1: the Republican aestoptions and the Democratic establishment too. I mean,

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01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:43,480
Speaker 1: you know, Cherr Khan really upset a lot of Democrats

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01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 1: when she not like Democrats in Congress, but like the

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01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:48,919
Speaker 1: anti trust establishment democrats, the people in the Obama administration

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Speaker 1: who really didn't challenge and mergers who allowed victim They

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Speaker 1: were a bunch of them, were not all of them,

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01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 1: but a bunch of them were really offended. So this

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01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 1: is this is kind of like a culture war among

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Speaker 1: people who control all the money and power in America.

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Speaker 1: A little bit more about the Republican side. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't how was Trump on these issues, was already

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01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 1: sign he really thought about or cared about them. How

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Speaker 1: are the people that he put in place? How do

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Speaker 1: you think he would approach it if he was president Again,

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Speaker 1: are there any other potential Republican presidential contenders who would,

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Speaker 1: you know, side fall more on the Lina cons side

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Speaker 1: of these issues? And also are there genuine allies in

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Speaker 1: Congress who back, you know, banning on competes and actually

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Speaker 1: enforcing the law with regard to mergers. Yeah, so those

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Speaker 1: are a lot of questions, going to forget them first

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Speaker 1: time about Trump? Right, Okay, yeah, I already forgot that one.

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Speaker 1: So it's an interesting you bring that up because one

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Speaker 1: of the things that happened with Christine Wilson and her

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Speaker 1: colleague No Phillips, who left a couple of I guess

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Speaker 1: a couple of months ago, is that they actually got

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01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:52,679
Speaker 1: crosswise with the Trump administration and so that they want

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Speaker 1: to portray what's happening as a partisan fight between the

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Speaker 1: three Democrats on the Commission and the two Republicans commission

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Speaker 1: with five you know, but actually that isn't what's going on.

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Speaker 1: So under the Trump administration, there was Trump filed the

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Speaker 1: first monopolization claim at the DOJ in twenty years, so

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Speaker 1: there was Microsoft in the nineties, and then Trump brought

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01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 1: the first Google case. But the FTCA brought a case

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Speaker 1: against Facebook in twenty twenty under Trump, and that was

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Speaker 1: a three to two vote. Now, the thing is is

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Speaker 1: it wasn't a three to two. Three rs wanted to

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Speaker 1: bring it in the two Dems. It was two Democrats,

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Speaker 1: the Republican chair named Joe Simons, and the two people

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Speaker 1: who voted against it were Noah Phillips and Christine Wilson.

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Speaker 1: So she actually brought voted against the Trump chair bringing

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Speaker 1: a Facebook into trusted. Another example was, you know Trump

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Speaker 1: is very like protectionist in like want to make things here. Well,

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Speaker 1: one of the things the FTC can do is they

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Speaker 1: can say if you label something as made in America

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Speaker 1: and it's not, that's fraud. Well, the FTC under you know,

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Speaker 1: the Democrats of the FTC under Trump, were trying to

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Speaker 1: get this mate put into a rule, and they were

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01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 1: actually working with Trump White House officials to do that.

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Speaker 1: The people who opposed it Noah Phillips and Christine Wilson. Right,

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Speaker 1: Lena Khan's first thing that she did at the FTC

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01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 1: is to vote for this rule saying true proposal and

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Speaker 1: vote for this rule saying made in America fraud is illegal.

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Speaker 1: Who voted against it? Phillips, Christine Wilson, this is so,

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Speaker 1: this is and this is on ideological grounds, like how

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Speaker 1: dare the government? I think Larry Coudler would say, oh,

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01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 1: that's socialism, right, but like it's obviously it's like that's

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Speaker 1: that's silly. But the but the point here is they're

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Speaker 1: offended at the idea that the FTC or that the

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Speaker 1: public sector in general would work to structure markets in

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Speaker 1: a way that doesn't funnel money and power to the top.

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Speaker 1: And so that's what's really going on, and I think

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Speaker 1: what will happen, Well, so there are a number of

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Speaker 1: questions there, but like, what's gonna happen next is Mitch

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Speaker 1: McConnell will nominate you know, they're two open slots. They're

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Speaker 1: eventually going to nominate some Republicans and they will probably

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Speaker 1: be less libertarian than Christine Wilson and Noah Phillips, and

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Speaker 1: that will it will sort of change how we do

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Speaker 1: anti trust enforcement. But I wanted I forgot the other

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Speaker 1: questions you ask allies with regards to Republicans. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: so so the non compete thing is really interesting. So

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Speaker 1: you have Todd Young from Indiana and you have Kevin

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Speaker 1: Kramer from North Dakota. These are two senators who came

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Speaker 1: out and said, you know, with some Democratic senators like

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Speaker 1: Chris Murphy, they said, this is good. We don't have

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Speaker 1: non competes in North Dakota. We don't have non competes

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Speaker 1: or I think there's trying to bear our serious problems

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Speaker 1: with non competes in healthcare in Indiana. And they so

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01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 1: they came out and they said it is a good

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Speaker 1: thing that the FTC is making non competes unlawful. And

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Speaker 1: you know, you also saw Jim Jordan on the other side,

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Speaker 1: he runs the House Judiciary Committee. It is likely he's

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Speaker 1: actually said I'm going to investigate the FTC for banning

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01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 1: non competes. This is an outrageous power grab and may

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Speaker 1: issue subpoenas and so on and so forth. So you're

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Speaker 1: good at you're seeing like this weird split on the

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01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:58,599
Speaker 1: right and like there's an attempt to portray it as

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Speaker 1: part of it, but it isn't. Well, I'm enjoying watching it.

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Speaker 1: Very interesting. People pay attention because these people control literally

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Speaker 1: the entire economy, as you said, culture war of people

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01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 1: who control all the money and power. I love that,

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Speaker 1: all right, Thank you guys. So much for watching. We

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Speaker 1: really appreciate it. We've got great content for you all

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Speaker 1: over the weekend, and we will see you all next week.