WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Cover Two 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:06.880 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:16.760 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:20.960 screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:25.640 Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:31.520 and Micky Spagnola. Well, if it's Tuesday and eleven thirty 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:37.480 in the morning Central Time, that means it is Mick Shots, 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:43.080 Mickey Spagnola, Everson Walls, Bill Jones not with us again. 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:46.680 So I'm gonna have Everson sing that song, just the 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:52.760 two of us, right, Just who's Who's sang that? Who's 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:58.160 sang that? Spags? Tell me good? Come on, man, just 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:01.920 the two of us. You can make it if you try, 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:04.640 say you got it better than man? Who is it? 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:08.440 Who is it? Bill? Was it? Bill Withers? Bills? That's right, 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:13.479 that's right. But we are old. We are now here's 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:17.000 how old we are? So last night, uh, there was 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:20.520 nothing on TV to watch between nine and ten, and 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:25.720 I saw on public uh public TV k e R 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:31.400 A k e R Yes, Public Television they had a 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:34.639 only old people watch that channel. They had a two 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:39.600 thousand and seven concert from the Troubadour in La with 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:47.280 James Taylor and Carol King. Carol oh many. Carol King 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:51.960 was my favorite growing up. When I heard her song 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:55.480 I Feel the Earth Move under my feet, Come on, man, 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:59.200 that was one of the most powerful songs I've ever heard. 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:04.040 They sang all those songs from back in the day. Uh. 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:06.880 And it was an hour and a half concert, uh 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:09.560 from the Troubadour And I think it showed in twenty ten, 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:12.840 but the concert was in two thousand and seven. Uh 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:17.959 So yeah, uh, I got a little uh go back 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:24.560 to days, right? I think I still have it too. 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:27.360 By the way, I had her Greatest Hits album and 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:30.040 the same thing from James Taylor too, and it was 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:33.920 they were good. I would get I would get that. Yes, 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:37.040 I would get that Greatest Hits album. And I'm sure 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:40.600 while you were back in college you were drinking Boom's 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:47.400 Farm as you were listening to her and James. I was. 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:50.480 I wasn't a wine guy back then. I could, I could, 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:56.200 I could admit that, but I guarantee you there Mickey's 0:02:56.400 --> 0:03:00.519 about Mickey's big mouth. That was the worst the world. 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:03.080 You know what? I kept one of those. I have 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:09.200 one on my TV upstairs. Never opened. It's full God 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:14.560 knows that desperate time and hardly no money. Yeah, that's 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:20.080 what we used to call scunk beer. Right, Yes, well 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:23.560 I think being now bag so I wouldn't. I would 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:29.320 be too bad. Alrighty, Well here we go. Uh it's 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:34.359 uh what March second, we are one week into the 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:40.920 period where teams can uh tag players with the franchise tag. 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:44.640 One week to go March ninth, next Tuesdays the deadline. 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:48.640 So uh, maybe we'll have some news by then, one 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:51.160 way or another one I do our next show. But 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:56.360 at this point, all eyes still on Dak Prescott uh 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:59.160 and the Dallas Cowboys to see if they can come 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:02.440 to a long term deal before they have to use 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:06.880 the franchise tag and not just use it to retain 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:10.440 his rights, but to stuff thirty seven point seven million 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:14.800 dollars into the salary cap come March seventeenth when the 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:18.920 new league year opens. And I guess we can start 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:24.240 there again since it's it's one of them ever since 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:26.760 it's one of those topics that just keeps on giving. 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:31.240 It just doesn't go away. And I've been listening to 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:36.039 everybody try to analyze all this stuff and the one thing, 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:38.360 and I think we brought it up last week. The 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:40.960 one thing no one points out is, you know, everybody 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:43.440 keeps saying, sign him, you know, they should have signed 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:46.200 him two years ago, just you know, give him what 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:50.560 he wants. And my question always is, we don't know 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:53.960 what they're asking for. What are they asking you know, 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:59.080 do they because obviously thirty five million year was not enough? 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:05.159 Do they forty forty five fifty? I don't know. Uh, 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:08.160 you know, And I heard, you know, talk rady, is 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:11.800 it is it? Is it? Three years? Yeah? Four years? Yeah? 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:16.440 Because I was five, yeah, right, and I heard, you know, 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:18.520 I heard somebody saying, you know, they probably should have 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:20.520 done this two years ago, and you know, they would 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:23.160 have saved money. And I said, well, how do you know? 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:25.880 Because you don't know what they were asking for two 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:28.640 years ago. You don't know what they were asking for 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:33.880 last year. And with with me, you know, I look 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:38.479 at the comparisons, uh in how I still I go 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:41.880 way back to when Emmis Smith had to hold out 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:46.000 to get his money and the next year Troy Akman's 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:50.560 contract was torn up and uh, Emmis Smith was immediately 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:53.680 underpaid on his team. After going through all of that, 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:56.040 then you look at Tony Romo who you know, wanted 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:59.360 Jerry's favorites, and how he made a big deal about 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:02.760 signing Amo, tearing up the remainder of his contract and 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:05.520 signing him to a really nice deal. And then all 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:08.520 of a sudden, here comes Dad and we got a plow. 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:11.839 And so as a black man, I'm looking at this like, oh, man, 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:14.440 come on, let's not be this fight. Let's not be 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:19.280 this stereotypical. Let's not be this this this predictable. And 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:21.360 and as I look at the contract and I look 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:24.720 at what they're offering, man, I could say, as a 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.120 friend of Dax, or maybe just a fan of Dax, 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:29.760 I would say, wow, that's a lot of money he's 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:32.280 just signed that, you know. But then at the same time, 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:35.159 as a as a former union rep and as a 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:39.920 former player, the devil is in the details. And so 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:46.240 the not confusing part. But I think the more engaging 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:49.920 part of it is that we don't hear from Dad. 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:55.800 We haven't heard from his people. They're sitting back taking 0:06:55.839 --> 0:07:00.760 in offers, you know, but not really despise, at least 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:04.120 publicly not responding. I don't know what the capitaliz are saying. 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:06.039 I don't know what's really going on behind the scenes, 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:08.960 But I just don't want this to turn into another 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:13.360 Cousins situation, and I think I think it was in 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:18.640 Washington where they just kept, you know, coming up with franchise, franchise, franchise, 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:21.800 and then it turns into a volatile situation to where 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:26.320 no one trusts anybody in the outcome of not just 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:30.720 that position, but the outcome of the season is hanging 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:34.520 on these negotiations. So it's not like you're just dealing 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:37.520 with a defensive back and not to diminish my DBS 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:41.000 or any other position on the field. Okay, so shut 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:44.800 ups fair. So all I'm saying is as a as 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:49.360 a the quarterback position, as much as I despise the 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:53.640 overblowing of its importance, we gotta have somebody in there 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:58.000 that's gonna right this ship for good. We gotta know 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:01.160 who we're gonna settle on. Is it gonna be Andy? 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:04.080 You know which? You know Andy's good? You know he 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:07.120 did decent when you find the guy's legs under or 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:10.640 are we gonna get back to see what that Prescott 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:15.560 can do? And once again, the injury I'm sure is 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:19.760 a factor. And on both sides, I'm sure Dak is 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:24.400 very stubborn about he's ready to go, And of course 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:28.680 the Cowboys they won't say it publicly, but during negotiations 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:30.880 they're gonna say, hey, man, we're not sure what you 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:34.280 can do on that leg. We saw that horrific break in. 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:38.400 Regardless of how enthusiastic your workouts are and how good 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:41.720 you feel about it, we may not feel as good 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:45.160 about it as you do. So therefore our negotiations might 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:48.800 be have a little different tone this time arounds past, 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:52.160 you know. And that's that's one reason why when you 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:55.800 have an opportunity to sign a long term deal, do 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:59.120 not play on a one year deal because you never 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:02.920 know what might happen to you going into free agency 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:05.440 the next year. Do you want to take that chance? 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:08.319 And you know what, So a couple of points. One, 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:11.480 I think one of the positive points is is that 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:15.079 Dak's been here rehabbing, so there doesn't seem to be 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:18.880 any butt hurt going on on either side. You know, 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:23.280 he's eligible to be here rehabbing in the offseason. He 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:26.959 seems to be willfully doing that, so it's not like, no, 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:29.680 I'm not going to show you you know where I'm at. 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:32.080 So the Cowboys will have an idea of just where 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:35.640 he's at with his rehab, which is a good thing. 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:39.920 The other thing that I got curious of after we 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:44.720 did the show last week was, you know, remember last 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:48.760 July fifteenth, when the deadline was going to pass. If 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:50.920 you didn't sign him to a long term deal, he 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:53.720 had to play on the franchise tag and they're no 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:57.280 more negotiations. Well, the reports came out at the last 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:59.920 minute that they were close, that they were close to 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:04.240 doing a deal, and supposedly they ran out of time, 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:10.320 which I can't believe they ran out of time, right, yeah, yeah, 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:15.160 they had they had, you know, seven months right to 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:18.320 be able to work it out. So but if they 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:22.800 were close, then when you pick up negotiations, now, why 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:27.520 why aren't you still close? What changed? Nothing really changed. 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:32.160 I can't imagine the Cowboys offered less. Uh, they may 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:36.480 have asked for more. But if you were close, why 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:39.280 aren't you still close? And then there's this one. And 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:42.280 I know you, as you said, you were a player 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:44.800 rep and you had to deal with agents and things 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:49.000 like that. But just I don't know if this coincidence 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:53.600 or what. But his his representative, Todd France, who's been 0:10:53.679 --> 0:11:00.360 negotiating the deal. I didn't realize that come August, early August, 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:06.120 he left his agency c AA UH and and they 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:09.640 said it was a sports business journal reported it was 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:13.160 a mutual decision. So he left the agency he had 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:18.800 been working for, and a month later he joined another agency. 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:25.160 Um it was called Sports Sports First. I believe it 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:28.240 was called UH. And It's like, so, was that just 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:33.920 a coincidence? Because I'm thinking agents probably have to give 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:37.559 a cut to the agency they worked for, right, Yes, 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:40.959 So I don't know, if you know, in the back 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:43.160 of his mind he was leaving there and he didn't 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:45.199 want to put money in an old agency when he 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:49.439 was going to a new agency, right, just food for thought, right, 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:54.280 you know. So well, I don't know. I'm not I'm 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:57.240 not accusing anything. I'm just pointing it out that this 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:01.199 did take place, right, So maybe now that he's with 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:05.000 the new agency, they can get this thing done, you know. 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:06.760 And it would be great if they can get it 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:11.120 done by by next Tuesday, so the Cowboys don't have 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:14.640 to start off the league year, you know, or at 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:17.840 least get it done by March seventeenth, so they don't 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:19.679 have to start off the league year or with that 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:23.000 much money stuffed into a new UH salary cap, and 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:27.040 we should probably know closer at some point, either later 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:29.800 this week or early next week, what the CAP's going 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:34.959 to actually be. You know, they they've set a a 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:37.559 ceiling at or not a ceiling, but I guess a 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:41.120 basement at one eighty at least the cap would be. 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:45.679 And I've seen some sites factoring the new salary cap 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:48.600 at one eighty five, So we'll see what it ends 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:51.640 up being, and maybe that'll help out. That's maybe holding 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:54.520 things up, so you know exactly what the CAP's going 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:57.920 to be. Plus they need a projection also for next 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:02.679 year because when you you know, work out the UH 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:06.480 the base salaries, you know, you base him on and 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:09.400 you continue. You used to base Hmond. Well, this CAP's 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:11.640 gonna go up, right, and it's gonna go up. It's 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:14.560 been going up ten million a year, so you're going, Okay, 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:17.000 whatever the base salaries this year, it could be X 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:20.040 amount of dollars more next year because the CAP's gonna 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:25.680 absorb some of that. So we'll see where this thing's going. 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:29.360 Did you ever have a law I got negotiations? I 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:32.839 was gonna say, I was I was gonna say, you know, 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:37.520 it got just like anything with you always. Right now, 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:39.599 I can't hear him. Have you lost me? Have you 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:42.360 lost me? I'm still here. I'm still here. Can you 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:47.280 hear me? Can you hear me? No, I'm still You're 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:51.439 gonna assume he said something really great because I can't 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:55.839 hear him right now. But we know we'll continue to 0:13:56.600 --> 0:14:00.480 monitor uh this as we uh as we go along, 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:03.719 and hopefully uh you know the two sides can come 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:08.880 together because you know what I keep saying is the 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:14.040 deal benefits both sides. We know it benefits the Cowboys, right. Um, 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:24.400 but anybody my, ah, there we go? My my airphones 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:27.760 have a partner on the air. No I knew I 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:30.400 had a partner. I was worried that I didn't have one. 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:35.960 I think the year phone plu're talking about? Yeah, so 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:39.840 I talked about about Had you ever had a prolonged 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:46.760 negotiation with tep Shram or Gil Brandt before you got here? 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:50.600 Everything is always complicated with ever some walls. You remember 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:53.600 came as a free agent, right. I bawled out my 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:56.720 rookie year from preseason all the way to the Pro Bowl. 0:14:57.320 --> 0:14:59.600 Must have had about eighteen interceptions and all by the 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:02.400 time season was over. So the Cowboys came to me 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:06.600 in the off season, doing me a favor, and so 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:10.120 they came to me. From a thirty thousand dollars contract 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:16.840 three years to a they came up with another three 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:20.560 year deal and the first year was going to be 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:25.520 eighty thousand dollars. Well, gil Brand forgot that I graduated 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.200 from college. Now he may not look have much respect 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:32.040 for my degree at Gramley State University, but it did 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:36.120 me well. Speaking of thank you very much, representative representative. 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:41.200 So anyway, I'm thinking, Okay, so if I signed this 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:44.280 eighty dollar deal, eighty thousand dollars deal, I think with 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:47.880 the thirty thousand dollars signing bonus, I'm looking at ronniey Lot, 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:52.040 Lawrence Taylor, and all of the defensive backs in the league. 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:56.720 I just left the Pro Bowl, so I'm gathering information 0:15:56.840 --> 0:16:00.840 on what these salaries are in the Pro Bowl. Their 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:04.360 salaries up to one hundred and fifty thousand. Already you're 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:06.440 telling me to come in and sign the eighty thousand 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:09.320 dollars deal. I'd be just like em, Miss Smith. I'd 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:12.520 be underpaid by the time the Eagles dropped, Okay, and 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:16.280 that would be my raid. So I did just like that. 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:21.720 I held out for greener pastures in regards to finances. 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:25.800 They came to me again with another deal. I think 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:27.640 it was like one hundred and ten thousand on top 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:29.120 of that, and I told Gil he must be out 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:32.320 of his mind, and they sent they would send the 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:34.960 troops after you. So they would ask some of the 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:38.640 players to say something, you know in the media. You know, 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:42.600 Gil Brad would put his hinchman out there. Gene Starlings 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:47.720 came to me. Gene Starlings came to me and said, Evie, Evie, 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:50.880 I want to talk to you. You know, if you 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:53.360 take that eighty thousand dollars and you put that in 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:56.320 the bank, shoot man, in twenty years, you're gonna have 0:16:56.480 --> 0:17:00.920 yourself a million dollars. And I was just so flaba 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:06.320 gassed at the elementary tactics that they were using to 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:10.640 impression me into signing these contracts. So when you look 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:14.720 at it, I rolled the dice for two years, not 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:17.320 just one year. I rolled the dice for two years 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:21.240 because I was not going to be underpaid even after 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:23.920 I signed the contract. So yes, this was before you 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:26.520 got there. You came in eighty four, the middle of 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:30.520 the eighty fourth season. Yeah, middle, Yeah. By that time, 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:34.159 my damage was already done. My name was mud in 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:40.120 the in the management office at twenty four years over 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:43.760 twenty three years old, I had already ruined my reputation 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:47.240 in regards to good graces with the three headed monster 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:50.840 of text round, Gil Brand and Tom Lander. So so 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:53.920 wait a minute. So three years when you said eighty thousand, 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:58.040 was it total or eighty thousand a year? They were 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:00.600 going to give me eighty thousand with a thirty thousand 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:03.119 dollars signing bonus first year, and it was going to 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:07.000 go up I think one or five or one twenty five, 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:10.119 something like that, but starting at eighty thousand or the 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:13.520 thirty thousand dollars bonus, and I just you know, it's 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:16.840 you don't have to be smart, Okay. Ronnie Lot came 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:19.160 in with me, the LT came in with me. I'm 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:22.400 at the Pro Bowl with them. So those are my peers. 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:26.399 I want to be paid like my peers. And I'm 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:28.040 using an air quote. I don't know why I'm doing that, 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:31.119 but they're really my peers. And so for me to 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:33.879 sit up here and sign a contract that would bring 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:36.919 me one ten including the thirty thousand dollars bonus when 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:40.560 they're already at one fifty and they their bonus was 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:44.879 a million dollars, not thirty thousand dollars. So when you 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:47.480 look at all of that, it's not hard to turn 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:51.200 something down like that, especially when I went eleven interceptions 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:54.440 the striker was coming up. I had seven in interceptions 0:18:54.480 --> 0:19:00.600 in nine games. My confidence is brewing, it's not adminishing, 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:03.560 and that's something that the Cowboys couldn't deal with. And 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:05.840 I'm wanting to think what people need to understand. Back 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:09.439 in that day, the salaries work as public as they 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:13.240 are now. So Everson did his homework with fighting out 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:16.399 what other guys and it's actually probably a good thing 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:18.760 you did, because then in the strike, you're you guys 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:21.960 didn't get paid for the seven games you missed, right? 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:25.360 We did not. We did not. We did not get 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:29.280 paid for them. Let me say this, and I've never 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:31.760 Gary Myers Man put it in his book, but I 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:39.399 was always sensitive about lack of information, full disclosure in negotiations, 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:43.240 and management was always about lying to you about what 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:46.520 your teammate made because everyone was afraid to say what 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:50.000 they made. So I don't know if you remember Man 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:53.280 as a union rep. That's the first thing I did. 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:57.840 And even though Gary Myers and USA today I believe 0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:01.600 capitalize off of that move. I made sure that every 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:08.960 salary was published so that players who were management lackeys 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:13.080 wouldn't be lying about what they're making, and management themselves 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:18.240 wouldn't be wouldn't mislead us about what our peers were making. 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:22.520 Everybody a negotiations and not everybody had an agent back then, either, 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:27.240 did they? No? No people, No, everyone had agents. Come on, man, 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:29.359 this is not the seventies. I came in. I came in, 0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:31.440 made the one spans. Come on, man, come on that 0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:38.760 stop himself. No, No, I made my own decisions. But 0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:41.359 I didn't have an agent. I had Weinberg, who he 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:43.920 was ready to make trouble. Yeah, he was ready to 0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:45.840 make trouble. Look didn't matter. All I had to do 0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:47.840 was say sick him and he was going to get them. 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:50.680 So that's what you wanted, an agent. And what that 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:52.880 did was they put a lot of pressure on management 0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:57.040 because now they couldn't be dishonest in their practices, at 0:20:57.119 --> 0:20:58.920 least not as much as they wanted to be. Yeah, 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:07.040 they hated and Steve walk in the building, Gil Brant 0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:10.359 and Steve Weiber could you imagine being a fly on 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:17.600 the wall any time together? And Steve would be like, well, no, no, no, no, 0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:21.440 that might be while I'm not in the ring of 0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:28.240 other right now, go all right, even fifty one to here, 0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:34.399 mix shots and Reverson and myself will return here in 0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:36.399 a moment, and we're gonna get into a little bit 0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:39.840 more of the Cowboys other free agents, guys that are 0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:43.359 unrestricted coming up here when the league year starts. And 0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:47.480 speaking of Gil Brandt, I've got a his top thirty 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:49.800 two board and we're gonna go over that and see 0:21:49.920 --> 0:21:53.520 just where the players are falling for where the Cowboys 0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:56.800 needs are that coming up next here on Dallas Cowboys 0:21:56.880 --> 0:22:03.800 dot Com and the SWBC mortgage student Honey, big news, Gary? 0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:07.119 Are you okay? Oh? 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Mickey 0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:35.360 Spagnola Everson Walls Everson Walls in his home studio. I'm 0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:40.680 here at the Star in the SWBC mortgage studio as 0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:44.159 we're trying to have my liquor cabinet. I don't want 0:24:44.160 --> 0:24:46.480 anybody to see what they've got back then, Oh, is 0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:49.360 that the deal? Yeah, I was trying to hide it. Yeah, 0:24:49.359 --> 0:24:51.560 I was trying to use my picture to count of 0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:55.120 shifted and I can't see my my liquor of the cabinets. Okay, 0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:56.920 I just want to know. I want to make sure 0:24:56.960 --> 0:25:03.760 it's full. Yes, it I finished the rooms, bags, the 0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:08.520 rooms finish. Does that mean the popcorn's off? And you 0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:14.040 painted done? I even got so far as paint the floor, 0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:18.080 paint the ceiling. I did it all. But it's done. 0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:21.320 It is done, and I didn't get in any trouble 0:25:21.359 --> 0:25:23.480 because that means that I will never listen to you 0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:26.280 when it comes to tell So you did a good job, 0:25:26.480 --> 0:25:30.199 is what you're telling me. I did an excellent job. Yes, 0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:32.480 I'm so proud of myself. All right. Well, when I 0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:34.880 need some stuff painted, I may just have to call 0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:37.520 on you. We'll contract out. Yeah, you can call me, 0:25:37.600 --> 0:25:40.680 but I want to be answered. That's okay, all right. So, 0:25:42.000 --> 0:25:46.160 speaking of your your Grambling shirt, I'm just I'm curious. 0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:49.840 I see where Jackson States next game is going to 0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:52.879 be at Grambley? Is it next weekend or this weekend? 0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:58.560 That should be this weekend, this weekend, this weekend. I 0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:01.040 think they headed for this weekend. You know what, I 0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:07.440 think it may because of the freeze. I believe it's 0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:10.520 gonna be changed and the location should be at that 0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:14.159 Globe Life a park. No way, it's gonna be a 0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:17.119 Globe Life. Yes, it's gonna be because it was gonna 0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:21.320 be grand the Cotton Bowl. My Coton Bowl was damaged 0:26:21.440 --> 0:26:24.800 doing this. The Cotton Bowl was damaged doing the freeze. 0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:29.600 So they're gonna be playing at Globe Life Park. So yeah, 0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:31.439 that's gonna be pretty amazing. And I'm not sure if 0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:34.400 it's this weekend or next weekend, but I'll be doing 0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:37.840 a camp this weekend, so I won't be able to participate. 0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:41.879 But now it should be pretty exciting. Dion gets to 0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:45.040 come back home and and let's just face it, his 0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:49.960 regardless of what you think about Dion or whatever he is, 0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:54.560 he is a marketing genius. And I'm loving that he's 0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:59.120 bringing that prowess to the Southwestern Athletic Conference to HBCU 0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:01.679 football because you know, let's face it, we could use 0:27:01.760 --> 0:27:04.240 the infusion, especially with the pandemic. I mean, here we 0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:07.399 are playing ball in the springtime. I just let you 0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:11.920 know that, you know, we couldn't handle the expenses. We 0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:14.680 couldn't handle any of the choice that had to be dumb, 0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:18.960 just because we just don't have that kind of discretionary 0:27:19.119 --> 0:27:24.359 income to make those kind of adjustments in the pandemic situation. 0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:30.639 So he would he should provide a nice infusion of 0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:36.200 excitement and you know, exposure to HBCUs. And before we 0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:39.520 move on, Spags, I want to it's another reason I 0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:44.720 wore the Grambling shirt here, John Mendenhall. We lost a 0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:47.679 great one, not just from Grambling, not just as an 0:27:47.800 --> 0:27:52.919 HBCU athlete, but the entire Giants New York Giants family 0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:57.080 and the NFL family you're talking about. You know, when 0:27:57.160 --> 0:28:02.000 we look at this time, Spags, we are losing people 0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:08.040 who were prominent names in sports and in all of society, 0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:11.000 in all walks of society. And so when all of 0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:13.720 a sudden, and I'm gonna get to him as well, 0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:19.080 John Mente Hall leaves us who was just one of 0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:22.359 those one of those names that when you heard it, 0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:25.920 you never forgot it. When it came to football, you know, 0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:29.240 he was a guy every game he played well, he 0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:33.000 was rarely hurt. He was an old school guy to 0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:36.720 where when you heard when you thought of New York Giants. 0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:39.760 If you're a New York Giant fan, a true New 0:28:39.880 --> 0:28:42.160 York Giant fan, he's going to be one of those 0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:47.000 names that you remember that affected your childhood and your 0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:52.040 upbringing in regards to being a football fan. The professionalism 0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:57.160 that guys like mende Hall show that came from playing 0:28:57.280 --> 0:29:01.560 for Eddie Robinson, came from the pride that he had 0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:05.240 by being an HBCU player, coming from Grammy State University, 0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:09.719 representing the swap, representing all HBC players. You know, these 0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:12.400 are the kind of names that they're just they're just 0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:16.840 leaving us, Spats, They're they're leaving us, and with no fanfare, 0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:19.680 you know what I'm saying, yea. And so it's it's 0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:22.880 happened with so many different types of people. And as 0:29:22.920 --> 0:29:27.280 we moved on to the Great Earth Cross, a guy 0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:32.080 that was a pioneer UH in all of sports, one 0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:36.080 of the first African American men to be on TV 0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:40.880 in a sports UH show with Britain Mussburger. I believe 0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:43.640 it was CBS Sports If I'm not mistaken, it was, 0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:46.440 and he and Briton Mussburger go ahead, Spags, I know 0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:49.800 you know it was. It was in CBR you know. 0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:53.960 The thing I didn't realize about him and uh, and 0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:59.200 he joined uh CBS. Uh and he also, uh you know, 0:29:59.600 --> 0:30:03.080 was on NFL today The Great Show with Brett Musberg 0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:08.480 Phillis George. Right. What I didn't realize about him is 0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:14.400 he is from Hammond, Indiana. And just a little background 0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:21.440 about that. Hammond's about maybe ten ten miles, no more 0:30:21.480 --> 0:30:23.880 than fifteen from where I grew up in the South 0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:26.800 suburbs of Chicago. And as a matter of fact, my 0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:31.960 summer job working in the factory during when my summers 0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:35.640 in college was in Hammond, Indiana. Right, So I didn't know, 0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:39.520 I didn't know he and then he went. He was 0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:43.880 like an all Stars, all state guy from the state 0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:47.520 of Indiana. And he went to Northwestern in nineteen fifty 0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:51.280 seven and was drafted in the seventh round in sixty 0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:58.400 one and played with the Eagles, the Eagles, and I 0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:00.880 think it was the Lions. He played with two different teams, 0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:03.680 and he went back to the Eagles. Uh, and so 0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:07.720 it was the Eagles and Rams. I'm sorry anyway, yeah, 0:31:08.320 --> 0:31:11.560 you know, And here's what happens. So you know, when 0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:15.120 when you're young, you know, back in those days in 0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:19.520 the sixties and seventies for us. You know, when people died, 0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:23.440 you sit there and go, oh, well they're really old, right, 0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:28.480 you didn't really know who they were. But now, yeah, 0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:30.720 now when you get older, you know all these people 0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:32.760 that are starting to die, and you're sitting there going, 0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:37.880 oh okay, I think, uh earth and then we were 0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:44.720 disillusion ourselves and say, oh yeah, he was eighty one 0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:48.080 and Mendel Hall was only seventy two. So you know, 0:31:48.160 --> 0:31:52.720 and I remember this quote from uh Joe green uh 0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:56.800 because uh, I forgot who was the last guy on 0:31:56.920 --> 0:32:01.480 there still curtain to pass away? Uh? He was, Yeah, 0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:04.240 it was Alc Greenwood and so those were his guys 0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:08.120 right for the days in uh in Pittsburgh, and he 0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:11.600 said something like and he said something right, you know 0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:16.200 what happens when you get older is you lose your 0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:21.200 friends because we're all getting old, but you're not making 0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:25.320 new friends. It's like you hold on to those old friends, right, 0:32:25.840 --> 0:32:27.959 but when you get older, you're not making a lot 0:32:28.040 --> 0:32:30.640 of new friends. And he goes in, you know, I'm 0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:33.040 feeling kind of lonely now because I'm the last man 0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:36.400 standing from that. And it made me think, and I 0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:39.480 absolutely when I talked to him. I told him, I said, boy, 0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:42.000 that was so accurate when you think about it, you know. 0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:46.680 So anyway, yeah, those those two guys, So let's do this, 0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:51.800 um the rest of this segment. The Cowboys have seventeen 0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:55.720 players that are unrestricted free agents. They have six other 0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:59.480 guys that they are restricted or exclusive right free agents. 0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:02.080 So the cow Boys do have the rights on those 0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:07.680 other six guys to give them qualifying offers to retain 0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:11.800 their rights. But they do have seventeen guys, sixteen other 0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:15.160 than Dak Prescott. Right, So I thought we'd go through 0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:18.280 this and just kind of real quickly, kind of say 0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:20.760 yay or nay, or what do you think's going to happen? 0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:25.000 And this list is by the amount of money they 0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:29.480 made this past year. So second behind Dak Prescott was 0:33:29.600 --> 0:33:35.360 Tyrone Crawford. Nine years in the league, came back from 0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:41.200 two hip surgeries. He's unrestricted. I wonder number one if 0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:44.520 he wants to continue play. And number two do the 0:33:44.640 --> 0:33:48.840 Cowboys you know, you got to get younger at some point, right, 0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:53.040 you can't keep resigning thirty some year old guys. Do 0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:56.160 they bring them back? Or I would imagine this is 0:33:56.240 --> 0:33:58.520 going to be one of those market value ones. Right, 0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:01.720 you see what the markets says, and then you see 0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:04.720 what you know, what you think you can do? H 0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:09.640 what do you think you gotta not only that, not 0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:12.520 only his age, but I would love his experience and 0:34:12.640 --> 0:34:15.399 the spirit that he brought. But you're also talking about 0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:19.920 what two hip surgeries, right, Yeah, and so that's something 0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:22.320 that you have to be aware of. I know players 0:34:22.400 --> 0:34:24.120 want to hang on. We want to hang on as 0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:27.000 long as we can, and well, you know, to be 0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:30.040 so called put out the pasture, that's something that no 0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:34.279 one wants to be involved in. But just from a 0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:39.600 practical standpoint, that would be tough to bring him back, Okay, 0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:41.840 it would be tough for me to make that decision. 0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:46.120 At Next would be Sean Lee. Uh, it's gonna turn thirty. Lee, 0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:50.400 Loving the Death, Loving the Death. Surprisedly came back this 0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:53.360 year and did as well as he did. He was 0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:56.960 always over matched physically. Now those injuries are catching up 0:34:57.000 --> 0:34:59.480 with him as well as age, and I have to 0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:04.160 let him go. Andy Dalton and this one, I think 0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:06.120 we'll have a lot to do with the rest of 0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:08.440 the league. Things of Andy Dalton, because I got a 0:35:08.480 --> 0:35:10.839 feeling the Cowboys would love to have him back as 0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:14.560 the backup corner. Yes, yes, I'd love to bring him 0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:17.200 back for backup if he if he lets us, I'm 0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:21.839 bringing him back as a backup right now. But once again, 0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:26.320 if Dad does a sign, let's go Andy. Next is 0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:30.239 the veteran offensive tackle. He just played one year with 0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:33.600 the Cowboys, Cam Irving, and he missed the majority of 0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:37.600 the season, missed all of training camp, was hurt at 0:35:37.640 --> 0:35:40.080 the beginning of the year, was hurt at the end 0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:47.000 of the year. To me, that's the one position if 0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:49.839 you aren't going to address it by the third round 0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:53.000 in the draft, offensive tackle, then you got to have 0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:57.359 You got to have better than Cam Irving as your 0:35:57.400 --> 0:36:01.320 backup tackle, knowing that your tackles have had injury history, 0:36:01.880 --> 0:36:04.719 especially Tyran Smith. And I'm not saying to give up 0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:07.439 on Tyrann Smith. You know what I keep hearing is well, 0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:11.120 he hadn't. He's missed at least uh three games in 0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:14.880 each of the last four years. I'll take thirteen games 0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:20.480 from him at his level than anybody as the right right, 0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:25.120 But I gotta have that with with with with with Cam. 0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:29.080 With Cam. It's a tough one, it really is. You know, 0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:32.279 you want the big bodies fats. I mean we want that, 0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:36.759 we want that player. Is he as good as he's 0:36:36.800 --> 0:36:40.239 gonna get? That's the thing. Is he as good as 0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:42.399 he's gonna get? What we saw from him last year, 0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:46.040 minus injuries or not? Is this all that we can 0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:49.960 expect from him? You know, sometimes those big bodies, they 0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:53.360 can do well for you if you can somehow tap 0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:57.680 into their mentality to make them understand the game better, 0:36:57.760 --> 0:37:03.279 which will make them better. All right, only because we 0:37:03.440 --> 0:37:06.600 need offensive line. That's a tough We'll see. We'll see 0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:09.840 where that one goes. And again, uh I see a 0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:12.040 lot of people looking at the draft and looking at 0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:14.920 the injuries. The Cowboys had a tackle position and Twatt 0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:17.320 and the Cowboys the draft and offensive tackle in the 0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:22.800 first round. I'm not there at all. But by the 0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:26.080 third round I would take a young guy and say, Okay, 0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:28.759 is this guy good enough to step in and be 0:37:29.000 --> 0:37:35.960 my swing tackle? Yes, like like they did with him exactly. Okay, 0:37:36.120 --> 0:37:40.359 Next is Joe Looney, who had been the ended up 0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:43.480 the starting center, but I think, be honest, is going 0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:47.040 to be the starter next year. Uh So, if Looney's 0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:50.120 good to come back as the backup swing guard tackle 0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:53.919 I'd be okay with that, but again that comes down 0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:58.680 to market value, right um, Alden Smith, Alden Smith, can 0:37:58.719 --> 0:38:01.759 you get him back? Does he want to stay? Our 0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:05.560 other team's gonna be offering. That's the unknown at this point. 0:38:07.560 --> 0:38:09.920 Even though even though our defense was horrible, he was 0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:13.400 one of those blank spots and especially spast when we 0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:17.080 finally was smart enough to move him around exactly moved 0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:22.040 him around on that defensive line, he was extremely effective 0:38:22.520 --> 0:38:29.160 and those few shining moments that we had defensively, he 0:38:29.440 --> 0:38:32.080 was a big key in regards to that and his 0:38:32.239 --> 0:38:34.920 movement up and down the line. That was a big 0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:38.440 key to some of our hard to call us success 0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:40.880 on the defense that we had, but it did make 0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:45.399 us more effective. So yes, for me, whatever's in saying 0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:48.400 is yeah, they list him as a defensive end, but 0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:52.600 he got some pretty good efficient snaps at defensive tackle, 0:38:53.000 --> 0:38:55.799 especially in a past rush situation. And at his age, 0:38:55.840 --> 0:38:59.040 if he's over Randy Gregory, with Randy Gregory on around, 0:38:59.080 --> 0:39:02.920 then he should be. That was defensive and Gregory should be, 0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:05.480 you know, for a full season, And if you can 0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:08.200 plan on that, then you're in pretty good shape along 0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:12.400 with Dornsiders and you still don't know what Bradley any. 0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:15.200 He really didn't get a chance. So from a defensive 0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:18.400 end standpoint, you could be okay. This next one I 0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:23.319 think is a no brainer. Blake Bell the backup tight end. 0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:26.759 I think he was very serviceable and if you can 0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:30.120 bring him back as the third tight end with a 0:39:30.200 --> 0:39:34.080 guy that's very versatile, I'd have him back very versus. 0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:37.440 I like that fast, very versais. I could see him 0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:41.080 doing the same things that Rudolph was doing for the Vikings, 0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:43.479 who they had the other tight end that was playing 0:39:43.480 --> 0:39:45.799 against us they lined up on the center. We can 0:39:45.880 --> 0:39:48.160 do all of that with Bell because he was a 0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:54.239 very accomplished running quarterback at Oklahoma. So to ask him, 0:39:55.040 --> 0:39:59.080 I'd love to keep him as a capable not just 0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:01.759 tight end, but he can do many many things on 0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:04.840 special teams as well. Now here's your guy, Joe Thomas, 0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:11.319 backup linebacker. Good veteran guy to have, right, Yes, he's 0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:13.920 good to have, but we didn't use him. Wow, I mean, 0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:16.480 let's let's not just keep him around for a veteran guy. 0:40:16.480 --> 0:40:19.440 I'd love to use him more. And maybe once again, 0:40:19.560 --> 0:40:21.480 we don't want don't let me go off on this 0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:23.279 nickel thing again. Because I think I may have gotten 0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:26.360 in trouble last week, but I just you know, I 0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:31.040 feel that the guy deserved better than last year. And 0:40:31.360 --> 0:40:35.600 as much as you know he may not be well 0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:39.839 heeled in regards to a lot of talent, I thought 0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:43.239 he feeled in well for us when we finally decided 0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:48.279 to play three linebackers. LP Latticer no problem bringing him back. 0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:52.040 He's still doing the job and the good thing about 0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:55.960 him is he's willing to play for that veteran benefit 0:40:56.120 --> 0:40:58.439 against the CAP, where you can give him a little 0:40:58.480 --> 0:41:01.600 bit more, but he doesn't cost us much against the Cap. Okay, 0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:03.839 now here here's gonna be a one that they're gonna 0:41:03.840 --> 0:41:12.080 have to make a decision about chittaby A Woozier. H Yeah, 0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:17.360 that's a tough one. After last year and the injuries, 0:41:17.400 --> 0:41:19.879 you kind of you almost ready to dismiss him off 0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:24.239 the bat, because when you're with a bad defense, as 0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:27.640 always is, and you you came back as a veteran 0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:30.520 offer injury, and when you came back and played it 0:41:30.600 --> 0:41:34.120 didn't make a difference in your defense, then you know 0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:38.239 you're not really looking at necessarily keeping him. But if 0:41:38.280 --> 0:41:42.960 the new DC comes in and feels that the woozier. 0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:46.200 Can you help him and maybe put him in position 0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:50.640 to make some plays. If he's attractive to Quinn, then 0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:53.279 he's attractive to me. Yeah, that's gonna be I think 0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:55.960 that'll be another one of those market value things. You 0:41:56.040 --> 0:41:58.600 got to kind of judge how much it would cost 0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:01.719 to bring him back. I'm sure you know he's he's 0:42:01.760 --> 0:42:04.719 done with his rookie contract, and you know, can can 0:42:04.840 --> 0:42:07.360 he cash in? Does somebody think, you know, one of 0:42:07.440 --> 0:42:10.720 the other thirty one teams think he's worth you know whatever? 0:42:11.800 --> 0:42:14.080 But if not, you know, if he wants to re 0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:16.920 establish his market value, maybe you bring him back on 0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:20.440 a one year kind of deal uh, and say, okay, 0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:22.840 we can handle this amount now, maybe you can re 0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:26.080 establish your market value for the next year. If you're 0:42:26.120 --> 0:42:30.080 not getting a big a big offer U C. J. 0:42:30.360 --> 0:42:34.600 Good one, uh, kind of a special teams ace. If 0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:37.640 you can afford him, bring him back, uh. And again, 0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:41.319 but a lot of this is market value. Same thing 0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:46.200 with Justin March. The outside linebacker Jordan Lewis is another 0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:48.560 tough one. He played, He ate up a lot of 0:42:48.640 --> 0:42:52.839 snaps for you, played in the nickel. But again, how 0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:57.080 much you know and and and in this especially this year, 0:42:57.360 --> 0:43:00.680 that's going to be a determining factor for these guys. 0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:06.120 I thought I thought he was misused a lot once again, 0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:10.480 playing nickel way too much. You're asking me a slightly 0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:14.040 built young man to get in there against tight ends 0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:17.759 and the running game and pulling guards on his first down, 0:43:18.000 --> 0:43:21.520 second down. We're not even talking about pass defense. We're 0:43:21.520 --> 0:43:25.520 talking about first and ten, second and five. And he's 0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:27.520 got to stick his nose in there, and he did 0:43:27.600 --> 0:43:30.360 his best in regards to that. If you would just 0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:35.680 if we could just keep his responsibilities to a more 0:43:35.840 --> 0:43:38.960 finite level and stop trying to ask him to do 0:43:39.120 --> 0:43:42.200 too much, I think he could do well for us. 0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:44.840 I don't look at him as a starter, I never have, 0:43:45.520 --> 0:43:51.879 but I do think he could be that capable defensive back, 0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:55.440 that fifth and sixth defensive back that we need. Now. 0:43:55.520 --> 0:43:59.479 Once again, all of this is predicated on how we're 0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:03.880 going to improve our pressure up front. If we can 0:44:03.920 --> 0:44:06.680 improve our pressure up front, guys like Julian Lewis have 0:44:06.719 --> 0:44:09.960 shown that they could be that guy to make important 0:44:10.000 --> 0:44:12.759 plays for us, doing critical parts of the game. So 0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:14.799 it has to be laid out for them just right. 0:44:15.280 --> 0:44:19.120 So three other guys real quickly here that played significant, 0:44:19.280 --> 0:44:26.040 somewhat significant roles. Xavier Woods, you're starting safety. Now there 0:44:26.160 --> 0:44:30.279 was another guy. Everybody talks about his production, but they 0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:33.000 weren't playing them at free safety that second half of 0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:35.440 the season. They were playing on like a strong safety 0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:38.120 that he was their nickel. He was there, he was 0:44:38.200 --> 0:44:41.920 their strong side linebacker, right, And it's like, I'm getting 0:44:41.920 --> 0:44:43.879 so tired of hearing the word nickel to see. That's 0:44:43.880 --> 0:44:46.760 the problem. So tired of hearing the word nickel because 0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:50.800 once they start using it so often, you're almost piecemeal 0:44:50.880 --> 0:44:53.719 and where you're putting your players right, you know, goy 0:44:53.760 --> 0:44:56.800 like Donovan Wilson that came along that really kind of 0:44:57.239 --> 0:45:00.960 turned things, uh upside down for the old secondary and 0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:04.799 there the high lucky the total pole that was established, 0:45:05.040 --> 0:45:07.640 which is a good thing. That's why docthor Wilson was 0:45:07.680 --> 0:45:10.800 back at safety free safety as opposed to Xavier Woods. 0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:13.040 That's the way I saw. So if you're gonna bring 0:45:13.120 --> 0:45:16.400 back a Xavier Woods, then Donogan Wilson needs to be 0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:19.640 back there as well. Uh. Noah Brown, he's been a 0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:22.400 guy that's been on their practice squad and he finally 0:45:22.600 --> 0:45:25.840 kind of carved himself a role, but again, you're not 0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:28.680 going to spend a lot of money trying to bring 0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:33.239 him back as a fifth wide receiver. And then the 0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:35.640 other guy in that boat is Cedric Wilson, who I 0:45:35.760 --> 0:45:39.839 think is you know, uh but White. I take it back. 0:45:39.920 --> 0:45:43.120 Cedric Wilson's a restricted free agent, so they can give 0:45:43.239 --> 0:45:50.280 him an offer probably would give him a qualified original 0:45:50.520 --> 0:45:53.120 draft choice because he was a six So if somebody 0:45:53.440 --> 0:45:56.520 signs him to an offer sheet and you don't want 0:45:56.560 --> 0:45:59.399 to match it, then you get a sixth round pick 0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:04.200 in return, and another versatile guy as well player as well. 0:46:04.280 --> 0:46:06.600 And here's another guy that once they put him back 0:46:06.640 --> 0:46:10.240 on the field and he's restricted this year, Antoine Woods, 0:46:10.640 --> 0:46:14.520 your defensive tackle. Uh, this guy should have been playing 0:46:14.600 --> 0:46:18.000 from the start, messing around with don Terry Poe out 0:46:18.040 --> 0:46:23.160 there and costing this guy's snaps right, and he's restricted 0:46:23.440 --> 0:46:26.840 and he and he's he was not a draft choice. 0:46:26.960 --> 0:46:29.840 So uh, you know, if if you don't want to 0:46:29.920 --> 0:46:35.680 match whatever you the qualifying offer, then you know you 0:46:35.719 --> 0:46:38.480 wouldn't get anything back for losing him. But maybe he's 0:46:38.520 --> 0:46:40.479 one of those guys where you just give a little 0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:43.239 bit of money to and you sign him to a 0:46:43.440 --> 0:46:46.680 very inexpensive two year deal, but he gave him a 0:46:46.680 --> 0:46:49.600 little signing bonus to give him something to come back, 0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:53.080 because remember last year, he didn't sign his exclusive tag 0:46:53.200 --> 0:46:56.400 until the last minute. 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Join now 0:49:40.800 --> 0:49:44.560 and get your exclusive fan pack and member benefits. Visit 0:49:44.719 --> 0:49:49.400 Dallas Cowboys dot com slash United for details, and we 0:49:49.560 --> 0:49:53.799 continue here on Mick Shots on Dallas Cowboys dot com. 0:49:54.520 --> 0:49:57.440 And if anybody's just joining us, which you should have 0:49:57.760 --> 0:50:05.000 long time ago, right, Mickey Spagnola Walls. So I've got 0:50:05.120 --> 0:50:08.680 Gil Brandt's top thirty two board and he's not suggesting 0:50:08.800 --> 0:50:11.960 that this is a mock draft. Okay, like this is 0:50:12.040 --> 0:50:14.239 the order these guys are gonna be picked, but he 0:50:14.880 --> 0:50:19.560 ranked them in how good he thinks these guys are. 0:50:19.920 --> 0:50:24.120 So I'm gonna read them off and you tell me. Okay, 0:50:24.200 --> 0:50:28.880 the Cowboys need that guy, right, So Number one Trevor 0:50:29.040 --> 0:50:37.719 Lawrence quarterback. Number two, yeah, right, Number two ten a 0:50:38.120 --> 0:50:42.920 Sewell offensive tackle. I don't know that they could qualify 0:50:43.160 --> 0:50:49.440 taking an offensive tackle in the that high first ground. Okay. 0:50:50.120 --> 0:50:56.200 Number three wide receiver Jamar Chase probably don't need that. 0:50:57.640 --> 0:51:04.520 Number four quarterback Zach Wilson probably don't need that. No quarterbacks, 0:51:04.760 --> 0:51:07.880 all right, No, we don't need any quarterbacks. Number five 0:51:08.080 --> 0:51:13.120 is Kyle Pitts a tight end. That seems a little extravagant, 0:51:13.239 --> 0:51:20.040 knowing that they have high right right. Number six offensive 0:51:20.080 --> 0:51:25.399 tackle were Sewn Slater that was offensive tackle, was looking 0:51:25.480 --> 0:51:32.759 goods facts Number seven Trey Lance quarterback, Number eight quarterback 0:51:32.920 --> 0:51:41.160 justin Fields. Number nine, number nine Elijah vera Tucker offensive 0:51:41.360 --> 0:51:44.279 guard in the top ten. I don't think I could 0:51:44.360 --> 0:51:47.759 qualify that. Oh no, Andy, Now then we just talk 0:51:47.840 --> 0:51:51.680 about the employance of an offensive line. I'm with you, 0:51:51.960 --> 0:51:56.399 and we're dealing with offensive guard problems. Well, if Zack 0:51:56.520 --> 0:51:59.919 Martin you still say no, just think if Zach Martin's back, 0:52:00.560 --> 0:52:05.720 then you've got a combination of Connor McGovern and Connor 0:52:05.760 --> 0:52:09.560 Williams to take care of the guard backup guard position. 0:52:09.880 --> 0:52:11.880 And by the way, This is what I was going 0:52:11.920 --> 0:52:14.640 to point out when we were talking about cam Irving. 0:52:15.239 --> 0:52:20.480 The Cowboys can't mess around anymore if they get another 0:52:20.680 --> 0:52:24.360 offensive tackle, hurt Zach Martin's got to go out to tackle. 0:52:24.960 --> 0:52:29.520 No messing around with undrafted free agents trying to fill 0:52:29.600 --> 0:52:32.480 in that spot. That's why I say, and that's why 0:52:33.000 --> 0:52:37.319 when you name off these linemen, especially tackles, and I am, 0:52:37.520 --> 0:52:42.239 I am intrigued. Yeah, you can get one in the 0:52:42.320 --> 0:52:44.400 second or third round. You don't need them in the 0:52:44.440 --> 0:52:49.600 first round when you have so many defensive Yeah, yes, yes, 0:52:50.160 --> 0:52:54.200 think about think about the Great Wall of Dallas. There 0:52:54.320 --> 0:52:56.600 was one guy that was drafted in the second round 0:52:56.640 --> 0:52:59.720 and the rest of them were basically undrafted free agents. 0:52:59.800 --> 0:53:04.880 Right that they develop. Okay, Number number ten, DeVante Smith, 0:53:05.160 --> 0:53:09.400 you can't do that again. Right wide receiver, Number eleven, 0:53:10.440 --> 0:53:15.360 Jaylen Waddle wide receiver, and at number twelve on Gill's 0:53:15.440 --> 0:53:20.880 list is the first defensive player listed, Jalen H. Phillips, 0:53:21.040 --> 0:53:27.480 a defensive end number thirteen. Number thirteen is the guy 0:53:27.560 --> 0:53:34.919 I pointed out last week, linebacker Micah Parsons. Uh say, 0:53:35.239 --> 0:53:40.120 I I really think he's awfully talented, But again, you 0:53:40.239 --> 0:53:43.600 got to decide is he a three down linebacker or 0:53:43.719 --> 0:53:46.560 two down linebacker? And he's another one of these guys 0:53:47.200 --> 0:53:50.800 that you know didn't play last year. So now what 0:53:51.040 --> 0:53:55.200 is your evaluation level on him? And now fourteen and 0:53:55.360 --> 0:53:58.359 fifteen we found before you move on, before you move 0:53:58.440 --> 0:54:03.800 on with that, you can also find great linebackers in 0:54:03.920 --> 0:54:07.480 the lower rounds, right spag. It happens all the time. 0:54:07.960 --> 0:54:11.120 You got humpy guys coming from small schools and they 0:54:11.239 --> 0:54:14.360 coming to a big time program, but it's Cowboys, Pittsburgh 0:54:14.480 --> 0:54:17.520 or whatever, and they make a difference. So you're not 0:54:17.719 --> 0:54:21.399 I'm not really worried about UH linebackers in the first 0:54:21.480 --> 0:54:23.920 round as well. I feel like that the way you 0:54:24.040 --> 0:54:27.840 feel about the office offensive tackles. But what if this 0:54:28.080 --> 0:54:33.879 is a generational Lawrence Taylor type linebacker, Well, then if 0:54:33.920 --> 0:54:39.480 you say it is, I haven't evaluation, but I don't 0:54:39.560 --> 0:54:42.359 know you you you you put your stamp on him 0:54:42.560 --> 0:54:48.120 last week. Be consistent. And the one evaluation I read 0:54:48.160 --> 0:54:52.000 about him, and this was a guy's opinion I respect. 0:54:52.640 --> 0:54:57.399 He compared them to Rolando McClain. And if you think 0:54:57.440 --> 0:55:00.640 about Rolando McClain when he before he had his off 0:55:00.719 --> 0:55:05.680 field problems, this guy wasn't stud right big. This guy 0:55:05.960 --> 0:55:09.880 Parsons six four two forty five, and he runs, you know, 0:55:10.320 --> 0:55:14.160 he runs like a defensive back. So anyway, one thing 0:55:14.239 --> 0:55:16.800 you have to have with linebackers bags before we move on. 0:55:16.960 --> 0:55:19.360 One thing you have to have with linebackers. You don't 0:55:19.560 --> 0:55:23.480 need just studs looking good, but they have to have 0:55:23.760 --> 0:55:28.279 football instincts. Linebackers are like running backs. You have to 0:55:28.400 --> 0:55:30.759 know where the hole is once the ball is snapped, 0:55:31.320 --> 0:55:34.600 you see. So some guys don't get that no matter 0:55:34.719 --> 0:55:37.360 how much how high they're drafted. You can find that. 0:55:37.800 --> 0:55:41.320 And a guy Mit Brown who was just extremely intelligent 0:55:41.360 --> 0:55:43.560 and was a leader of his team for four years 0:55:44.160 --> 0:55:48.960 at I don't know, South, some Central university somewhere. You 0:55:49.000 --> 0:55:51.799 know what I'm saying. We can find that guy. All right, 0:55:52.120 --> 0:55:55.359 here's here's gonna be your homework assignment. You call up 0:55:55.520 --> 0:55:59.879 his film and I understand highlight films, they're all gonna 0:55:59.920 --> 0:56:04.440 be great plays, right so, but his instincts in that 0:56:04.680 --> 0:56:08.120 highlight in those highlight films to me were amazing. All right, 0:56:08.560 --> 0:56:13.799 Now it down that we finally get to what everybody's 0:56:14.080 --> 0:56:17.640 giving the Dallas Cowboys in their mock drafts at fourteen 0:56:18.520 --> 0:56:26.160 and fifteen cornerback Patrick Certain and cornerback Caleb Farley Virginia 0:56:26.239 --> 0:56:32.040 Tech and Alabama by the way. So that's how Gil 0:56:32.320 --> 0:56:38.760 kind of put his power rankings together. Now, well, Caleb 0:56:38.960 --> 0:56:41.600 Caleb was a guy that he sat out part of 0:56:42.320 --> 0:56:45.560 out also, yes, he did not play last year, so 0:56:45.680 --> 0:56:48.839 you got worried about that. Certain with Ballom the entire time. 0:56:48.880 --> 0:56:52.279 But he's got problems against speed. You know, sometimes the 0:56:52.400 --> 0:56:55.239 fast guys can can get by. And I mean, you 0:56:55.320 --> 0:56:57.720 know how it was I had the same problem. Sometimes 0:56:57.760 --> 0:57:00.359 you have to speed up your brain when you're out 0:57:00.360 --> 0:57:03.640 there going against faster players. I have one for your spags. 0:57:03.640 --> 0:57:06.040 If the Cowboys might want to sign, can I can 0:57:06.120 --> 0:57:10.520 I mention this one? Go ahead? Honorable mentioned h Larry Roundtree. 0:57:10.680 --> 0:57:13.239 I'm sure you know of this young man. You know, 0:57:13.600 --> 0:57:16.040 he's a running back from from what where is he 0:57:16.120 --> 0:57:18.120 from a zoo? Right? Is he from a zoo? Yes? 0:57:19.760 --> 0:57:22.080 But he'll be come on, what you think he'll be. 0:57:22.480 --> 0:57:27.080 He'll be a second third round Uh Frank Gore, a 0:57:27.240 --> 0:57:32.640 Frank Gore type with major doability runs downhill. I mean, 0:57:32.760 --> 0:57:35.440 come on, I mean thirty seven carries against who was 0:57:35.480 --> 0:57:40.720 that Mississippi State? Was it? Yes? But I mean, this 0:57:40.840 --> 0:57:43.200 guy's a stud man, but you're not bringing him up. 0:57:43.280 --> 0:57:46.000 Come on, represent the Tigers. He's not. He's not in 0:57:46.120 --> 0:57:49.160 Gill's top thirty two. The only guy from Missouri in 0:57:49.240 --> 0:57:56.160 the top thirty two, uh is linebacker Nick Bolton from Frisco. 0:57:56.560 --> 0:58:01.120 By the way, Uh nice, And but he's an inside 0:58:01.160 --> 0:58:04.080 guy and I don't know that he's a three down linebacker, 0:58:04.160 --> 0:58:06.400 but he's awfully good. He's got him ranked nineteenth. But 0:58:06.560 --> 0:58:09.040 here's the deal on if you're trying to get an 0:58:09.120 --> 0:58:11.840 idea of what people think of what's available in the draft. 0:58:12.400 --> 0:58:17.920 We went through the top eleven and no defensive player 0:58:18.320 --> 0:58:23.320 was listed right, and then between twelve and twenty they 0:58:23.360 --> 0:58:27.800 were all defensive players. Before he had Alabama quarterback Matt 0:58:27.920 --> 0:58:30.920 Jones at twenty one, and then the next guy at 0:58:31.000 --> 0:58:36.040 twenty two, Christian Barmore, the defensive tackle from Alabama that 0:58:36.280 --> 0:58:42.439 had one heck of a national championship game. Right, No, An, 0:58:42.440 --> 0:58:46.200 that's a championship year, right career. Let's just say, your 0:58:46.240 --> 0:58:48.960 whole career was amazing, and I had him circled and 0:58:49.080 --> 0:58:51.840 if that's something you would be interested in, then you 0:58:51.960 --> 0:58:55.640 could probably trade down, you know, five or six spots 0:58:55.680 --> 0:58:59.280 and probably still be able to pick him up. But 0:58:59.400 --> 0:59:02.800 I continue I continue to see in these in these 0:59:02.920 --> 0:59:07.400 mock drafts like Charlie CASTLELEI. Whatever you think of Charlie 0:59:07.480 --> 0:59:12.000 and his player evaluation he had, he had Parsons going 0:59:12.120 --> 0:59:15.560 number seven by the way, um, and there's some people 0:59:15.640 --> 0:59:19.280 that had bar Moore going uh in their top twelve. 0:59:19.720 --> 0:59:23.560 So uh, those are positions I think the Cowboys obviously 0:59:23.760 --> 0:59:27.080 keeping an eye on not only you know, cornerback, but 0:59:27.320 --> 0:59:31.520 I got no problem taking a defensive tackle, defensive end, 0:59:32.360 --> 0:59:35.880 you know, linebacker. As long as that linebacker's versatile and 0:59:35.960 --> 0:59:38.600 can play all three downs, I don't want him off 0:59:38.640 --> 0:59:42.160 the field on the nick. Well, the draft itself shows 0:59:42.280 --> 0:59:46.840 me that running backs are still not considered to be uh, 0:59:47.480 --> 0:59:50.360 you know, premium, which I still think. It's a shame. 0:59:50.440 --> 0:59:52.680 You got guys like Naji Harris and Bama. I mean, 0:59:52.800 --> 0:59:55.720 come on, who wouldn't take that guy? Another another Henry 0:59:55.760 --> 0:59:59.640 in the making? Uh? You bought from Oklahoma State? Right, 1:00:00.320 --> 1:00:03.120 Just a guy that the one of the best, Travis 1:00:03.280 --> 1:00:07.520 and ten from Clemson. Man, this guy he's done things 1:00:07.560 --> 1:00:09.560 on the field that I've never seen anyone doing. He 1:00:09.560 --> 1:00:12.400 reminds me of Cede lamb just playing in the backfield 1:00:12.400 --> 1:00:14.880 a little bit bigger, and like I said, your boy 1:00:14.960 --> 1:00:17.600 brown Tree, right, he's a guys. He's ranked right after 1:00:17.720 --> 1:00:21.280 Naji Harris, And that sang a lot because Naji Harris 1:00:21.720 --> 1:00:25.960 is a great athlete. Larry brown Tree. Guys like that there, 1:00:26.320 --> 1:00:29.000 they won't be appreciated. They're just like the Frank Gulas. 1:00:29.080 --> 1:00:31.840 They won't be appreciated until their career is old. And 1:00:32.320 --> 1:00:36.400 he's got Naji Harris ranked twenty fifth, the only running 1:00:36.480 --> 1:00:39.520 back in his top thirty two. That is amazing to me. 1:00:39.840 --> 1:00:43.440 The only running back. Yes, absolutely, that makes no sense. 1:00:45.280 --> 1:00:47.880 Come on, you could You could put that on Gil. 1:00:50.880 --> 1:00:54.240 And here's that's another thing I'm gonna put on Gail. Yeah. Right, 1:00:54.320 --> 1:00:57.440 And here's a guy, his thirty second guy. But when 1:00:57.480 --> 1:01:02.680 I watched this guy play, oh my, uh, Cadarius Tony, 1:01:02.840 --> 1:01:05.200 the wide receiver from Florida. I don't know if you've 1:01:05.240 --> 1:01:11.200 ever seen him. He will cause some team team's headaches. 1:01:11.200 --> 1:01:14.160 I'll guarantee you that. And he may go higher than 1:01:14.240 --> 1:01:20.080 thirty second. He's not big, but boy, uh he's the 1:01:20.200 --> 1:01:23.680 next coming of the Kansas City's Guy Hill. Right. Uh, 1:01:23.800 --> 1:01:27.120 this guy, yeah, this guy is all over the place 1:01:27.200 --> 1:01:31.760 with the football. So anyway, well that's two shot, two 1:01:32.360 --> 1:01:35.840 Mick shots in a row of very informative, a lot 1:01:35.920 --> 1:01:40.640 of innovation, right, yes, absolutely. I gotta look on my 1:01:40.760 --> 1:01:43.440 list and see if I forgot anything, but if I did, 1:01:43.840 --> 1:01:49.680 there's always next week, right yeah, and once again to 1:01:53.000 --> 1:01:56.000 cross Boy. I loved listen to earth Cross on that 1:01:57.480 --> 1:02:02.320 on the team moves. Yeah, really spoon NFL today he 1:02:02.480 --> 1:02:06.000 was he was awfully, awfully good. 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