WEBVTT - Swinging Era w/ Cory Wharton 0:00:02.440 --> 0:00:07.840 Hello friends, It's me Devin Simone. 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:10.440 And I'm here too. I am Daven Rogers and this is. 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:13.400 MTV's official challenge podcast. 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:16.360 We as bess, ma'am. 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:20.320 I was trying something new, you know, you want to 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:24.239 spice it up sometimes in the podcast room. Yes, we 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:26.960 are back. This was a spicy episode and emotional. It 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:30.200 was all the it was. It had all the feelings 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:33.720 of a young love. You know, like you're emotional. It's 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:39.640 at a little spicy at times. Little heartbreak, little heartbreak, warm, 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:42.200 It was all good. First we had the challenge called 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:50.199 another Trucker Wow, and I still don't understand how some 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:52.960 people rocked the heck out of that. And then it 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:56.360 looked impossible for others. And mind you, because we have 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:59.760 everyone we have left is an exceptional competitor, you know 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:02.800 what I mean? Like so, like I know, if Toy 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:04.080 couldn't do it, I couldn't do it. 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:05.039 I was watching it. 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:07.880 I was so proud to see at least everyone was 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:10.280 trying right and trying to figure out some type of strategy. 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:13.440 The only person. And then I want your opinion on this. 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:18.400 What do you think Aviv could have done differently? Like 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:21.440 do you do because sometimes you look at a challenge 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:23.800 and you're like, where is this gonna work out? 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:25.520 So what do you think she could have done differently? 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:27.840 I mean because at first I was looking, I was like, wait, 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:29.760 what about the ropes? Like forgetting that there was no 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:31.200 harness that they're on, because I was like, is her 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:33.560 rope longer? It needs to be like, it's got to 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:39.319 be fair. I guess, probably hold on to less of 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:42.360 her rope so she has a greater extinctionion outward and 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:44.840 more height in her jump, you know what I mean. 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:48.280 But that means from a letting go standpoint, you got 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:50.480 to live on the edge a little more, right, because 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:52.960 like she had to like that, that would have been 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:53.480 my thought. 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:55.800 She had to really trust the lower But I mean it. 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:58.880 Was hard for Kara, it was hard for Toy, Like 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:00.760 even I forgot. 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:00.960 Who it was. 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:03.440 But one of them said, it was easier to get 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:05.360 the ones inside of the ones. Yeah, both of the 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:08.160 ones outside, right, So you have to maybe make a 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:11.160 couple of sacrifices, but then also knowing when to run 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:14.320 and when to release that thing and time it perfectly, 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:17.760 so that might that might result in you sacrificing the 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:20.239 outside part in order to get that momentum to run 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:21.120 to the inside part. 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:23.200 I don't it chill? 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:25.480 You sound like you practices in your sleep. 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:29.280 Chah, I don't I sleep good not thinking about the challenge. 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:34.600 Well, I'm probably gonna sleep thinking about this challenge because 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:43.000 can we talk about the sudden? I mean, right, you guys, 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:43.880 it was good. 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:46.359 I'm gonna tell you, Derek, I'm sorry. I am so 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:48.320 sorry because my money was on Jordan. 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:49.680 I just knew. 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:51.520 I just knew what Jordan was gonna pull. 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:53.040 This because he did it effortlessly. 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:55.640 And not to say that Derek didn't, because Derek also 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:58.320 did it effortlessly. But it was just like when you 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:00.600 go back in it, sometimes it's like is luck. 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:01.799 Sometimes it's luck. 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:02.880 You'll look at it and be like, oh, you did 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:05.400 really good that first time. By look, Derek said absolutely not. 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:08.240 I did this because I'm good. 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:11.120 He theready did it again and I was just I 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:11.760 was so proud. 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:17.000 Oh damn so proud Derek. I mean killed to see Derek. 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:21.000 I hope that this well it's twofold because on one hand, 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:23.000 I want Derek to say under people's radars, because then 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:25.560 I want him to knock it, you know what I mean, 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:26.919 like shock the world. I want him to knock it 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:30.079 out of the park. I want I personally like being 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:33.360 underestimated because then it's like, you know, showing what you 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:35.560 can do. But on the other hand, I hope this 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:40.120 woke people up that, like, Derek is the truth. Derek 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:43.440 almost made it to the final on the first challenge 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:45.600 that I had ever done, a Battle of the Seasons two, 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:48.360 he and Johnny got eliminated just before the final, and 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:50.080 they were a two person team, so they had been 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:53.400 fighting an uphill battle for a minute, like, and they 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:55.760 were killing it. Even in that elimination, they were killing it. 0:03:55.840 --> 0:04:01.240 And so yeah, like, Derek is the truth, and seeing 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:04.680 him nail this was just I'm so happy for him. 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:07.560 I'm so incredibly happy. And I'm happy for Rachel too. 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:11.200 But I was she is a powerhouse. 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:16.200 That woman is a power house and fearless like she. 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:21.520 I can only imagine what a Viv thought walking up 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:22.280 there next to her. 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:27.280 And talk about a dynamic of differences too, because even 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:29.040 when you know Viv is like, look, I'm a mom 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:31.600 of two, I don't do this, but Rachel's also a 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:34.719 mom of littles two, and so it just shows that 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:37.440 the makeup is like kind of like the choose your 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:41.240 fighter or choose your character player because there's different types 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:45.320 of all you know people up there, and they both 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:48.800 did a great job. No one chickened out. Viv unfortunately 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:52.440 lost and so she's penalized in the next challenge. But man, 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:55.520 was this an epic challenge to see. Not only that, 0:04:55.600 --> 0:05:00.320 but we came away with our first I believe all 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:07.000 LGBTQ plus chamber right. We had full representation making the 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:09.520 decisions and calling the shots because they were the winners. 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:14.120 And we have had exceptional players from the community over 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:20.680 the years who brought so much in terms of competitiveness, athleticism, personality, energy, 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:25.360 beautiful stories. And to see it being honored like so 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:27.560 you know, it just so happened that they both want, 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:29.440 but to see it sort of honored as Rachel is 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:31.280 telling the story, I thought was pretty cool. 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:32.159 I agree, I agree. 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:34.839 And then to get the look back and see the 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:37.760 challengers that we've grown to love and embrace and just 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:39.760 you know, I think I think it was really good 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:42.960 to put that on display, and it gave them an 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:46.680 opportunity to say we hear, and yes, stop underestimating us, 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:48.599 we hear absolutely. 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:51.360 And representation does matter now the representation shown by the 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:54.120 editor who has a sense of humor when they were 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:55.960 talking about this is earlier when they were talking about 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:58.880 Derek like being a beast in the games because he is, 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:03.760 and then they cut to Derek in a Boostdia and 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:09.800 in his alter ego. So funny. It is, so I 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:13.840 will never not love a good costume in the Challenge House. Also, 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:19.400 can we talk about Carl aka Carra's alter ego, who 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:23.359 apparently is dating Toy on the show and Michelle and 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:24.680 then I don't know if you caught it, when they 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:27.279 went to the club, there was a moment that someone 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:30.400 was talking to Carl. I forgot who, but the editors 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:33.800 literally put the caption at like you know who's speaking. 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:37.200 They put it as Carl was the one speaking and 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:40.440 not Cara. So funny, so funny. 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:43.920 Yeah, how did you feel about Tory coming out and 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:46.880 basically saying, although her and Cara have their differences, they're 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:49.760 pretty much almost the same person, Like she was just 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:52.159 saying how they favor each other and you know, things 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:52.400 like that. 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:53.599 I thought that was really good. 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:57.040 Because this season, I can't say this season we see 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:59.320 people fight, we see people arguing different things like that, 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:03.040 but we're all so seeing people peel back layers and 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:05.000 we're getting real stories this season. 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:06.640 So I really appreciate that. 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:08.680 You I agree, I love that, and I love to 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:11.440 see that for them. I mean, people have pitted them 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:14.160 against each other in a way comparing how competitive they are, 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:17.760 how talented they are, you know, strong willed, And I agree, 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:20.040 I think they're kind of like a Yin and a yang, 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:23.480 And I love seeing who knows, maybe Carl and Tory's 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:25.800 version of Devin will be friends, you know, when Tory 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:31.080 dressed up as Devin, Like, maybe Carl and Devin will 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:33.640 make a friendship. Something else that was meaningful I thought 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:38.160 from this episode was when we saw Corey speaking to 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:43.600 Nelly and just first of all shout out to Scubanelly 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:47.400 t glad to see his outlook, and Corey talked about 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:49.960 it being perspective, like you can have the things like 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:51.800 the house stressing you out, but then when you look 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:55.480 at your overall well being. Right, So, like, we still 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:58.920 have Nelson with us, right, he still has like love, 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:02.960 he still has his like Wherewithal you know, he's missing 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:06.840 his leg, which is heartbreaking, but he's still That wasn't 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:09.600 the thing that made Nelson Nelson, you know, like there 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:11.800 was so much and so just that perspective. I thought 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:13.600 that was really beautiful to see. 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:19.360 Absolutely, like, like I said, Nelson smiling and being so 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:23.400 happy and Chipper in spite of whatever is going on, 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:25.880 and you know, his circumstances or whatever the case may be, 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:30.760 is very much Nelson. Like, it's very very very much Nelson, 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:34.400 and I can I can tell that his light is 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:35.520 definitely missed. 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:38.320 Yeah, and the challenge, I'm hoping we'll see him back. 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:42.520 I am. We we love him. He's brings so much 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:46.880 to the show and his personality is commentary all the things. 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:50.560 Scubanelli t if you're listening to this, we're sending you 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:53.280 so much love. Someone else we're sending some love to 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:54.199 would be Josh. 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:55.240 Oh my bad. 0:08:55.400 --> 0:08:58.800 And this was heart wrenching to see. I didn't want 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:00.800 any of them to go home. I just wanted to 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:04.760 give Josh the biggest hug and so much love this episode. 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:08.760 He was so emotional this episode. My goodness, he was 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:10.040 so emotional this episode. 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:12.160 And you know, when everything played out and we get 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:16.880 into the elimination, which by the way, coming from behind, producers, we. 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:19.480 Need to talk because why is that the title of 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:20.079 the elimination? 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:24.480 We need to take those Yeah, have a chat that 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:27.000 y'all couldn't change it last minute, Like y'all just stick 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:27.559 to that name. 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:35.520 But watching Josh, let's rewind right, watching those of you 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:37.920 who follow him on social media, watching how hard he 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:41.200 trains and how hard he prepares and just things that 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:44.280 he does in off season in preparation to come back 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:46.600 and play, and then to watch him go out the 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:47.280 way that he. 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:50.280 Did it is just kind of like it was sad. 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:51.160 It was. 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:53.040 It was really sad to watch. 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:57.640 But you know, I hope that when he watches it back, 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:01.280 he uses it as a learning to just go a 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:04.520 little harder and keep it. Yeah, what're you about to say, David? 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:05.080 What you know? 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:08.679 Okay? Look here she's looking at my Kiden Guys. Okay, 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:13.200 I look, I was sad and with him all episode 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:14.920 or like feeling for him, and I didn't want him 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:17.160 to go home. Still don't look. I adore Josh. I 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:19.160 know I like tease and play with him sometimes, but 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:21.800 like I what Banana said about him being a good dude, 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:23.480 Josh is a good dude like I do him, and 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:25.560 that is why he's friends with so many people because 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:28.800 he's a good dude. Like you can tell, he's just 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:30.960 like a solid guy. I adore Josh. I was with 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:33.680 Josh the whole time and feeling for him and wanting 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:35.880 for him, but I also wanted Corey say. But then 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:39.000 when Josh said in interview during the elimination and he goes, 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:41.439 my strategy isn't going to be speed, It's going to 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:48.400 be endurance. I took a deep breath and I looked 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:50.520 to the side, and then I looked to the side 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:54.439 and I said, but this game, Josh, is not about endurance. 0:10:54.440 --> 0:11:00.760 It's about speed, sir. So I don't know how that strategy. 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:02.720 And then I thought, well, maybe I misshard. You know, 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:05.360 it's time I could clean my ears again or something like, 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:08.000 maybe I miss her. Let's watch it play out. And 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:10.720 when I saw he did not pick up the speed, 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:14.760 I was like, well, yeah, and I'm. 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:16.400 Gonna take my time and all I have to do 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:18.400 is endure Corey and I'll be. 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:22.320 I mean literally, it would be like being in a 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:24.880 final and me being like, you know what, it's not 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:27.320 about how bad I run, It's about how much you 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:30.720 can eat in the eating challenge. I'm cool, that's a 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:34.080 part of it. But uh, you don't just get to 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:40.400 opt out, so especially when speed is beating you so significantly. 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:43.240 In this like, yeah, it was a football player, right. 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:45.760 Yeah, and Corey did not come to PA. I mean 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:47.719 Corey was like it. 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:51.120 Was like a shark seeing blood, like oh my god, 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:55.640 Oh like he gonna hurt my baby, Oh my god. 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:57.600 Then can I just say too? Maybe I'm the only 0:11:57.640 --> 0:11:59.560 one thought is let us know, please come find me 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:01.480 on So, guys, if you thought this, because really, I 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:04.040 swear for a moment when TJ fired the gum, there 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:07.040 was a moment it took Josh so long to like 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:09.760 start running. I thought maybe he was playing like he 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:15.000 had a strategy to like wait back and then do something. Okay, good. 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:16.560 I wasn't only one because I really was like, oh, 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:19.840 maybe he's gonna like let Corey come over first and 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:21.920 then he I don't know, I thought it was a plan. 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:24.640 I thought Josh was like, you know, got a little 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:26.360 burst of faith in himself. 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:28.240 It was like maybe I could just maybe I can 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:29.199 take Corey down. 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:31.840 Maybe I could just take him down and then I 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:33.920 can ring this bell. I don't know, but I definitely 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:35.559 seen the slow take off and I thought there was 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:38.679 strategy to it too, But in any events, I am 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:41.560 very proud Josh if you're listening of the way that 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:45.320 you have played this game very selfishly, okay, because I 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:47.160 have waited a long time for you to take these 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:48.240 people up off your back. 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:51.320 But Josh, if you're listening, also please know that after 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:54.120 about two rounds of that, she was losing faith and 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:56.040 I had to text in our group chat to keep 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:58.079 the faith that you could possibly bring it out. 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:00.520 Listen, I knew my baby was going down. I knew 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:02.640 he was going down, and it's okay because we all 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:04.400 fall get up. 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:05.080 That's it. 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:07.200 That's it. 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:11.840 Kicks you a friend who's gonna keep it read with 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:18.160 you every single time, every single time. Now let's get 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:22.480 into our gold Star and timeouts of the week Mischief. 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:25.760 You know what, if I'm being honest, I didn't have 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:28.880 a timeout for this episode. I feel like everybody came 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:31.440 in to play and they did what they were supposed 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:34.040 to do in this episode. And if you put my 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:37.319 baby in time out about this elimination, we are going 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:39.240 to have a conversation off air. 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:43.360 I know now that you mentioned it, I. 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:44.240 Know what's coming. 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:46.760 But if I had to give somebody a time out 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:49.480 and it's not even like a huge timeout. Maybe I'll 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:51.000 just sit her in the corner for like two seconds 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:52.440 and be like, did you learn your lesson? 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:53.520 It would be. 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:57.360 Kara really for her for her attempt to try to 0:13:57.360 --> 0:13:58.959 get Rachel to put it in money. 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:04.720 Because baby, she put in an effort. 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:06.559 Against no shade. 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:09.319 I love my baby, But if you're gonna send Johnny 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:13.200 in against Josh, there is a possibility, although everybody messes up, 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:15.520 but there is a possibility that Johnny. 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:17.319 Could come back and then now there's an issue. 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:19.040 But that could have worked in cars favor because she 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:22.280 could have created, you know, a hole in their little situation, 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:23.560 a crack in their little situation. 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:25.520 But I just it was a long. 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:27.680 It was a rich it was a real reach. Well 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:29.800 that and just to convince Rachel out of nowhere to 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:31.680 go like that. I was like, girl, that ain't happening. 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.920 That felt very Outllah Nehemiah trying to do brokeer deals 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:37.560 at the last minute shout out to Niava felt very 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:41.360 very that my time out. I agree there weren't a 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:45.560 lot of contenders this week for timeouts. I think everyone 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:47.760 did an exceptional job and we may see that more 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:50.800 and more as we move into the rest of this game, 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:54.080 because also everybody's just exceptional. They are everybody's exceptional. So 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:58.440 like you're gonna see great every greatness every time. I 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:01.040 wasn't gonna put Josh in time out, but you reminded me, 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:02.840 so I'm not gonnaut him in time out because I 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:05.600 think he had such a moving story this episode, and 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:07.960 I also think we saw growth, including in how he 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:10.360 played to a degree that I want to give him 0:15:10.360 --> 0:15:12.080 a hug, but I am just gonna give him a 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:15.400 stern look when it came to doing a strategy of 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:18.080 endurance on a game that required speed and your opponent 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:20.440 is bringing speed, Josh, I'm just giving you a scirn look. 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:23.240 Hold on one second, here we go. Okay, I think 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:26.680 you get it. Now, just next time, you just channel 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:29.040 that all right. Now we're talking about gold Stars of 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:30.480 the week. Who gets your gold star day? 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:33.400 Okay, So we're gonna break it in half, right, I know, 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.440 I know, y'all, we've been here, we are in here. 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:37.280 Okay, we know this. 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:40.360 And I forever think she's catting his Hunger Everdeen or 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:43.360 this is Hunger Games or any of those things. 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:47.640 Uh huh, so originally my entire gold star was going 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:50.320 to go to Derek, like I was extremely proud of 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:52.520 how he pulled out this win and just him in 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:54.400 this episode across the board. 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:55.600 I was very very proud of Derek. 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:59.760 But then we saw this phone called with Neilson, and 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:01.520 I have I have. 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:05.520 I have to give half of this goal start to Nelson. 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:07.080 I don't care that he's not on the cast, I 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:09.440 don't care about none of that. I have to give 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:13.320 half of this goal start to Nelson simply because his 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:17.200 spirit is just so high, like and his laughter all 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:20.240 of that is so contagious, and I just seeing him 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:23.560 on the screen again was just refreshing. It's like, dang, 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:26.040 this is where you're supposed to be, Like, we really 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:28.680 miss him being on the show. So I'm gonna I'm 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:31.440 gonna break it in half. Sorry, Derek, it's phone call 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:32.960 never would happen. It would have been all you for 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:34.320 the first time. I would have gave it all to 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:37.560 one person. But this time, I'm gonna break it in half. 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:39.280 And I'm gonna give it to Derek and Nelson. How 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:39.640 about you. 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:42.400 We do love you, Nelly t very very very much so, 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:44.160 And it was so delightful getting to see him and 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:48.320 just see that that brotherhood with Corey is beautiful too. 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:52.760 It's so beautiful. I am going to give an honorable 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:58.320 mention to Toy for doing corn Rows in the challenge. 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:01.200 Who has she been out with? Yeah, it was a 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:03.760 little high up, but in the end it looked fine. 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:06.560 So I don't know because usually you go straight back, 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:08.920 and she had him pulled up a little bit but 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:11.640 then it got there. But hey, she's been hanging out 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:15.119 with somebody, so good job, Tori. I'm gonna give you 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:18.280 an honorable mention. But my gold star has to go 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:21.720 to my main boo from the way Boo, way back. 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:24.479 I love Derek. I love me some Derek. I always 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:27.040 have loved Derek since the moment I met him, and 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:30.160 he very much deserves this gold star and this win. 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:32.040 And I hope he just keep I hope now that 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:33.280 we're at this point in the season, I hope he 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:35.520 keeps just turning them out like I hope he just 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:39.240 knocks them down very well deserved. But it's a good season. 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:44.600 It overall good. It's a good season. Good everybody here 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:46.640 I think is valid of a win in some way 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:50.040 at this point and they're all hungry. They're all hungry. 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:53.679 There's no even the underdogs are really like not that 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:57.680 under eat and there's no I mean yeah, there's no 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:01.760 like scragglers. I'm excited to see what happens and how 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:06.960 this game goes. I'm also excited to talk to our friends. 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:13.080 Mister curl poppin' Cory Wharton is here. He is gonna 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:16.639 drop some tea, We get some behind the scenes the challenge, 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:20.280 even teen mom little peek into dad life. So you 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:22.040 guys are definitely not gonna want to miss this. Make 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:25.240 sure you grab your snacks, do some stretches, and don't 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:27.280 go anywhere because we have a fabulous interview with Corey 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:40.320 Wharton after this. Well well, well look who we have here. 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:48.520 It is mister curl poppin' mister fighting on elimination and 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:53.560 putting the SmackDown in mister actually funny commentary this season. 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:58.080 Please give it up for the one and only Corey Wharton. 0:18:58.280 --> 0:18:58.840 What's up? 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:02.359 Thank you guys, thank you for having me. I'm glad 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:04.960 you said I'm actually funny this season. It's only taking 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:07.560 you eleven to get those confessionals down, so I'm making 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:11.199 which is good. But no I appreciate you guys for 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:13.120 having me on the podcast today eleven times. 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:15.840 The charm we're here, we are here, we are here, 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:18.560 and happy to have you here. You have been. It's 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:21.280 it's been maybe I don't know if I want to 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:22.960 say one of my favorite seasons of you, because there's 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:25.080 been a lot of really great seasons. But while we 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:28.320 hadn't seen you a ton in the beginning of this season, 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:32.120 what we're seeing now, i'd argue, is a lot of fun. 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:35.000 Like I like this Corey that we're seeing come out. 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:38.840 My head's on straight this season. I'm not distracted like 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:39.359 I'm there. 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:43.919